CALLING CARRIE AND A META-CONCERT FOLLOW-UP-
Archivist Notes: This session took place
two weeks after the "Meta-Concert
Training" session and three weeks after the "Mars Now
and Then" session. Omal is able to fill in some
of the details about meta-concert he wasn't able to
cover in his initial discourse. Before that though, we
call Carrie and get an update on her life and how the
gang on the Base is keeping a close eye out for her
due to a history filled with close encounters. Tia
finishes up with a reminder we too are targets for
surveillance and abduction due to our relationship
with the Base.
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(Tia comes on to start the session.)
Russ: greetings love........what? Oh.
Russ: I left the door open up there for Tonka to get in.
(One of the house cats.)
Russ: yeah, come wandering in if he wants.
Tia: (Speaks some Durondedunn) we have an aura on the foot
Russ: that would be Calvin eh? (Another one of the house
Tia: uh-huh, a bent aura, or at least the butt's bent.
Russ: so we've got a pyramid to build..
Russ: we've got the big guys in.
Tia: big guys?
Russ: Korton and Omal?
Tia: just Omal.
Russ: oh just Omal?
Tia: as far as I know but what do I know?
Russ: yeah well you're the ring mistress, I assume you know
Tia: yes I do know everything.
Russ: what are you doing being the ring mistress.........?
Tia: if I didn't know everything.
Tia: ask me a question, any question.
Russ: square root of pi?
Tia: not telling you, nahh.
Tia: ask me a question Johnny.
John: define ring mistress and what exactly is your......
Tia: I coordinate everything, who goes on, who's on first,
what's on second, I don't know is on third.
John: okay so you're the coordinator basically?
Tia: that's correct, I control who goes on. I'm also semi-in
charge of censoring although the heavies, they do most of
the censoring. I'm in charge of who should be at channeling
sessions, both up there, over there and down there.
Russ: and how long they take each.
Tia: that's correct. I also keep a very close eye on the
amount of time that is used on your recordings.
Russ: how much of Mark's energy is being used.
Tia: correct, so I coordinate everything. It's a big and
important job. And considering I'm, how tall am I?
John: well my cheat sheet here says 5 foot two, strawberry
Tia: that's me.
John: yeah Russ was nice enough to put together a sheet for
me because I've been having some trouble keeping everyone
separated and yeah, he did a real nice job.
Tia: uh-huh and Kiri, who is Kiri's favorite person?
John: well I would venture to say Mark.
Tia: it's Carrie, Carrie the sex toy. (A private joke
between Kiri and Carrie.)
John: oh okay, okay yeah. All right, Carrie with a C.
John: right okay.
Russ: and since you get to hear from Carrie tonight.
Tia: yes I know, that's why thought I would bring up her
name. Okay, should we put her on?
Russ: I'll make the phone call.
Tia: but in the meantime whilst you make the phone call,
Johnny, you got any questions for me?
John: oh let me see. I didn't put together any notes or
Tia: off the top of your head. Oh I do have a herbal remedy
for your problem.
John: oh you do?
Tia: yes. You will need fresh garlic crushed, fresh thyme
freshly picked............ (the following has been cut out
due to a mic problem at the time.) both lemon thyme and
regular thyme. You will need chives, preferably fresh if
not, dried will do. You'll also need sage, about three
leaves. All ground together and then steeped in hot water.
Drink all of it.........and pepper, ground pepper.
John: any particular kind of pepper?
Tia: course ground, black pepper.
John: black pepper okay. I think we've got everything we
Tia: uh-huh. Steeped in hot water, no other flavorings, no
tea, no milk just that. And Carrie will tell you all that.
John: no lemon or nothing like that?
John: does Mark know the recipe?
Tia: no I don't think so but it's on the recording, we can
go back to the beginning and go over it. So that is.....okay
go on, press the buttons.
(Russ dials up Carrie)
Tia: hello sister mind.
Carrie: hi, what's going on?
Tia: oh channeling time and I'm messing with the cat,
Carrie: you're messing with Calvin?
Carrie: shame on you.
Tia: well somebody's got to, nobody else is.
Carrie: that's true. Have you ever come down and messed with
Tia: from time to time.
Carrie: she is a trip.
Tia: yeah you know when she does that vertical takeoff
thingy? Like somebody's walked up behind her and gone pinch
on her butt. Guess what?
Carrie: she is a weirdo.
Carrie: she does all kinds of stuff Tia.
Tia: yeah you know when she does have vertical takeoff
thing? That's when I pinch her on the butt.
Carrie: that's when you pinch her on the butt?
Carrie: I'll have to watch for that more often.
Carrie: she does so many weird things that I don't know.
Tia: well tell me about them.
Carrie: well she's a trip. She is just......I tell you,
sometimes I think she is heaven-sent because I just adore
her with all my heart. You know the other night we were
watching a movie and she sat like a baby in my arms for two
Tia: was that the movie with the guy with the long hair and
the big muscles?
Carrie: I'm trying to think which movie we were watching.
Which movie did we watch? We watched "Voodoo" and "Judge
Tia: oh "Judge Dredd", that's one of Mark's favorite movies.
Carrie: oh really and what was the other one that we
watched? We watched, oh "Johnny Mnemonic".
Tia: oh the guy with the microchip in his head.
Carrie: God, that's a trip. That is so weird, that's almost
scary. You know and then "Judge Dredd" too.
Carrie: all those futuristic movies, it's like wow, is it
going to be like that you know? It makes you wonder.
Tia: it does make you wonder doesn't it?
Carrie: oh yeah.
Tia: do you know Mark grew up on "Judge Dredd"?
Tia: Mark grew up on "Judge Dredd".
Carrie: see I didn't know it was a comic. Mike had told me,
he said, what did he say? He said something. He said
something, he goes "God this has been around forever
Carrie". And I said "nuh-uh". And he said "yeah it has". He
said "Judge Dredd" is a comic book and I was like "oh wow. I
didn't know that."
Tia: uh-huh. Yeah ask Mark when you talk to him next. He'll
tell you all about "Judge Dredd".
Carrie: I can imagine he was into comics.
Tia: what do you mean you can imagine he was into comics, he
Carrie: is he still?
Carrie: I can imagine that he would be.
Russ: his life is a comic book.
Tia: watch it sonny.
Carrie: I think wait a minute, I think I remember
him....doesn't he have a whole bunch of them like in plastic
coverings and stuff?
Tia: no that's the Russ Meister.
Carrie: is that Russ?
Carrie: okay. Okay, yep I remember Russ being into them too.
Tia: uh-huh. So what can we do for you then sister mind?
Carrie: well I don't know, I just thought I'd give you guys
a holler and say hello and tell you how my couple weeks have
Tia: okay tell me, tell me, tell me.
Carrie: well we got our wedding rings.....
Carrie: but we don't get em till Friday
because we had to get them sized and they are so beautiful.
And I got a diamond.
Carrie: I'm really excited. I've never had a diamond you
Tia: you've never had a diamond?
Tia: you've never had a diamond?
Carrie: well Mike gave me a diamond earring, just one
diamond earring like a long, long time ago. But I've never
had a...you know?
Carrie: I've just never and then I got my mom's diamond. And
then, I guess I've never had anybody other than Mike give me
a diamond. Because I've got my mom's diamond but that was
her diamond you know? It's just kind of on loan on my
Carrie: and then Mike got me a diamond for my birthday but
this one's like I think it's a quarter carat. And then it's
got three chipped diamonds in the wedding band and two
chipped diamonds in the engagement band on the side of the
quarter carat diamond.
Carrie: it's really pretty.
Tia: well Mike's the special person that can give you the
Carrie: it's so neat though because he just thinks it's so
important you know? And I love that. He got diamonds too.
Tia: oh that's good.
Carrie: his ring has chipped diamonds in it too.
Tia: I'll tell you what you could do, as a little bit of a
joke, get him a lump of coal, wrap it up and tell him that
that's a diamond in the rough.
Carrie: well he was going to get me that.
Tia: yeah. Well tell him to wait about 2 million years and
it should be ready.
Carrie: yep, yep. Diamonds are beautiful and it's kind of
neat how they are made out of coal though. Me and my mom
were talking about that the other day. They're like, you
know they're an all natural rock.
Tia: yeah or the other thing is to get him a piece of wood
and tell him to heat it to several hundred thousand degrees
and compress it and it will turn coal and then from coal it
will turn to a diamond.
Carrie: it'll turn to diamond?
Carrie: I don't think he'd like that too much. We bought him
a new truck too.
Carrie: bought him a new Blazer.
Tia: ooohh you are on the up and up.
Carrie: yep, we've bought it yesterday. He's so excited
because he hasn't had a vehicle since we left.
Tia: oh really?
Carrie: uh-huh, we've just been driving my car. So I put my
car up for collateral and bought him a new truck. So he's
really excited, I'm really excited for him, I'm happy.
Tia: I bet you are.
Carrie: you know that's kind of his Christmas present. A
new vehicle and I think it's kind of neat being able to give
him a vehicle for Christmas.
Tia: not many people can get that for Christmas.
Carrie: oh no they can't you know and we always say to each
other too and we tell everybody this, we're not going to get
each other anything for Christmas you know and look at us.
We always do that every year too.
Carrie: we always say "okay, something small", and then it
turns out being something big. Like the first year we were
together I got a leather jacket and bought him a Sega CD and
he gave me leather gloves and a beautiful silver fairy
Tia: uh-huh, well I......
Carrie: we always do that, I don't know why.
Tia: well I keep on getting prodded and there's somebody
that wants to talk to you.
Carrie: oh really?
Carrie: well I'd love to talk to them.
Tia: okay, I'm going to put her on.
(Kiri takes over the call from Tia.)
Carrie: hi Kiri.
Kiri: how's it happening babe?
Carrie: pretty good, how are you?
Kiri: oh, you know.
Carrie: I know.
Carrie: I know how you are.
Carrie: what's going on?
Kiri: well lots and lots and lots. I've been practicing and
competing for the ski races that we're having on Centauri
base. (For the Tri-Base ski championship between Sirus,
Alpha Centari base and Hades Base.)
Carrie: oh really?
Carrie: how you doing?
Kiri: I qualified.
Carrie: oh cool.
Carrie: is it snow skiing?
Carrie: oh neat.
Kiri: I've got to win one more race and then I'm ready for
Carrie: you'll have to teach me how to snow ski some day.
Kiri: hey when we get you up here I'll teach you how to snow
Carrie: I've never snow skied.
Kiri: you're kidding?
Carrie: is that bad or what?
Kiri: no not really.
Carrie: nope, never snow skied a day in my life.
Kiri: what about on one of those long, fat, thing foot
Carrie: nope, never did that either.
Kiri: well, when we get you up here on the base, I'll teach
you how to ski.
there's lots of things I'll teach you about.
Carrie: oh okay. (Laughs). We'll do that when I get up
Carrie: nope, I never did ski, never had the urge. I guess
all my friends did all my skiing for me.
Kiri: well that's good, that's good. Have you been trying my
exercises I told you about last time that we had a long
Carrie: no, I haven't really had to.
Kiri: oh that's good.
Carrie: no, things are going real well.
Kiri: uh-huh. I thought that might be the catalyst for other
things to happen. Oh did you enjoy that dream
the other night, I think it was about a week ago?
Carrie: huh-huh, which one, which one are you talking about?
Kiri: it was about a week ago, involved fields and sun and
having a lot of fun. I've got to be careful with what I say
here, I've got two MCPs.
Carrie: oh, I don't remember that dream.
Kiri: oh well, not to worry.
Carrie: there was another one though that I remember quite
well that was kind of a trip. It was about a friend of mine
that I knew years and years ago and I haven't thought about
him in a really long time.....
Carrie: a really long time.
Kiri: was she the medium height blonde with the athletic
Carrie: no, not that one. Nope he's tall, skinny,
long.....Russ are you in the room?
Russ: I'm here darling.
Carrie: you know Roby?
Russ: no I never met him.
Carrie: do you remember me talking about him?
Russ: no, not any Robe anyway.
Carrie: that was years ago though. It was so many years
ago...I mean that was...
Russ: well I might've forgotten too though.
Kiri: you're watching a cop show?
Carrie: Mike's asleep in front of the TV.
Kiri: watching a cop show.
Kiri: uh-huh he's dreaming that he is a member of the State
Carrie: no, that be a pretty boring job.
Kiri: pays well though.
Kiri: it pays well though.
Carrie: pays well?
Carrie: probably not, well I don't know, I guess well enough
for around here.
Carrie: but no, I only remember...........we went and met
with the minister the other day too and I was going to talk
to you guys about this. I was going ask you, because I asked
him if it would be a problem for him to read what you guys
Carrie: and he said no as long as he had a chance to review
it ahead of time so that he could object or not.
Kiri: oh of course.
Carrie: but then I was talking to Carol and Carol told me,
she said why don't you just have the minister do his part
and you know marry you guys and then have Russ stand up and
do a ceremony.
Russ: that's if I'm there or not.
Carrie: Russ are you there?
Kiri: he's here.
Russ: I'm here but whether I'll be there and we don't know
Kiri: you have to come closer to the phone Russ.
you hear that Carrie?
Carrie: yeah I heard that.
Russ: I thought so.
Carrie: that's true, that's true.
Russ: I wouldn't make any plans on it just yet.
Russ: I wouldn't plan on it just yet.
Carrie: you better plan on it just yet.
Russ: well, we'll work on it.
Kiri: yeah we will come up with a little ceremony that he
can use. We will give quite a few things that he can chop
and change and.....but it will keep the flavor in there.
What we will do is...nah, I can't tell you what we'll do and
how it will get to you but it will get to you.
Carrie: okay. Because he told me just as long as.....because
he said like within the next month.
Kiri: okay, we'll have it done before then.
Carrie: okay because he said you know just as long as it's
nothing........and I told him, I said well the
ceremony that we went through, I said it wasn't....I said
you know.....because he goes "well just as long as it's
nothing like I get to a part and it shocks me" you know?
Carrie: and I said "well no, it wouldn't be anything like
that." And I said all it's going to be is a
spiritual bonding. I said it's just going to be the same,
the same as a Christian bonding but not the same you know?
Carrie: and we had a religious debate for two hours, it was
kind of interesting. And then he said the only reason he
wouldn't marry us is if one of us was Christian and the
other one wasn't.
Carrie: because apparently in the Bible it says that if your one
is one religion and the other one isn't, then your wedding
or your marriage will be like doomed. You know because you
have a different perspective on life and I don't necessarily
Kiri: oh I quite agree, to me it sounds as Mark might say "a
load of tosh."
Russ: where did you find this guy Carrie?
Russ: where did you find this guy?
Carrie: you'd be surprised, he's like the most casual
Christian around here.
Carrie: a lot of people wouldn't even marry us because we've
lived together for 2 1/2 years.
Carrie: I mean these people out here are seriously
religious. He's a really nice guy you know and Mike and I
decided that we're both Christians. I mean because the only
Christian values, I mean the only thing that classifies me
as a Christian, I was talking to my mom about this the other
day, okay and my mom told me that and the minister told us
Christian is basically somebody who believes in God and
believes that Jesus died for our sins.
Kiri: uh-huh. But of course we know who Jesus really is
Carrie: oh yeah but I can't tell the minister that.
Carrie: that's a good way to get me exiled from the Midwest.
Kiri: yes of course, I understand.
Carrie: so basically that's what a Christian is. Somebody
who believes in God and who believe that Jesus was sent down
and died for our sins. And I believe that and Mike believes
that so I guess that classifies us as both Christians.
Kiri: okay I'm going to put on the next person that wants to
talk to you so hold on a second.
Kiri: there you are, there's a kiss from me.
Carrie: I love you.
Kiri: I love you too.
Carrie: I'll talk to you later.
Kiri: yeah bye.
Kiri: I'll be by later on with Tia.
Carrie: okay, bye.
Kiri: okay? So watch yourself.
Carrie: watch myself?
Kiri: yes watch yourself.
(Karra reunites with Carrie next.)
Carrie: hi Russ.
Russ: hi Carrie. How you doing darling?
Carrie: what's wrong? You sound stressed.
Russ: oh no, I'm just standing up right now.
Karra: and how's it going?
Carrie: how are you?
Karra: oh I'm doing fine but you on the other hand, hmmm.
Carrie: mine is just a temporary setback.
Karra: oh so we're up to six a day now are we?
Carrie: probably more than that.
Carrie: I know bad.
Carrie: bad, bad....
Karra: bad, bad, hold out your hand.
Russ: spank yourself.
Carrie: spank myself? I'll have Mike spank me.
Karra: hold out your arm, roll up your sleeve, okay now get
two of your fingers and slap your wrist.
Carrie: okay, okay I did it.
Karra: okay, naughty, naughty, naughty.
Carrie: I did it.
Carrie: I know I've got to quit, my lungs hurt.
Karra: yeah, consider yourself reprimanded by Karra.
Carrie: I know.
Karra: I know.
Carrie: sigh Karra.
Karra: that's all right.
Carrie: I know I need to quit.
Karra: I forgive you.
Carrie: especially if I'm going to have a baby.
Karra: uh-huh, it's very important that you quit for the
Carrie: Karra, do you know when I'm going to have a baby?
Karra: no, I don't know when you're going to have a baby, I
can't see into the future. Yes Russ?
Carrie: I know what my future has ahead of me.
Karra: you do?
Carrie: you've been through it.
(Catches Karra speechless. Russ laughs.)
Karra: we'll save this for a later discussion when......when
Carrie: I know, I know. I can ask you those questions I
know. We're frustrated though, we've been trying for a year.
Karra: a year? That's nothing.
Carrie: I was holding Sherry's baby the other night.
Carrie: yesterday they got married.
Karra: oh really?
Carrie: yeah, they just got married at the courthouse and it
was nothing real fancy but it was real special and we went
over to some friends last night and I was holding Schaefer
and he fell asleep in my arms and he was just looking up at
me before he fell asleep and he was just watching me. And
then I was humming Christmas songs to him and then he
started to get a little fussy and then I hummed some more
and he'd just get real quiet and he'd stare at me. It felt
Karra: he was probably looking up at you and going "who is
Carrie: he knows who auntie Carrie is.
Karra: yeah I know, I'm pulling your leg.
Carrie: I'm always giving him kisses all the time.
Karra: I'm pulling your leg.
Carrie: he knows me because I used to call him a little girl
when he was inside the tummy.
Carrie: he didn't like that.
Karra: now would you like being called a little boy?
Karra: would you like to be called a little boy?
Carrie: he wanted to be called a little boy because he was a
Karra: no but would you?
Carrie: would I? No.
Karra: well there's your answer.
Carrie: I understand. He'll forgive me someday though.
Karra: yes of course he will.
Carrie: but it just felt so right you know? It was so me, it
was like but then I think about it and I think you know God
knows what he's doing, he knows.
Carrie: you know I guess he just knows that we're not in a
position right now to have babies.
Karra: oh exactly, your body is telling you that you know
it's not the right time yet.
Carrie: yeah that and the situation we're in.
Carrie: you know? It would just be too hard, too much more
stress so I figure God must know you know. I put my trust in
him and I believe that he knows what he's doing.
Karra: yeah, you see the body's a very sensitive piece of
equipment, it knows when it's time to have children and when
it's not time to have children. You know certain activities
will stop you from having children. For example, you can be
very athletic and that will stop your periods and stop you
from ovulating. Because you're being busy and you're burning
energy that would at other times be used to help you to grow
a baby. Or when you're very, very hungry and there's no
money around and you're starving. Again you can't have
babies because your body does not have the nutrients to
supply the energy for a baby.
Carrie: I didn't know that.
Karra: uh-huh. See the body's very clever.
Carrie: it amazes me how the body works sometimes when I sit
down and think about it. Are your guy's body's the same?
Karra: yeah, uh-huh.
Carrie: isn't that weird? How everything connects because
especially in school we've been learning like we went
through cell anatomy and physiology.
Carrie: And it was so weird you know? Because I mean
everything connects to everything and everything serves a
purpose and every little thing knows when there is something
Karra: oh of course, it's a very precisely tuned piece of
machinery as Kiri might say.
Carrie: well mine needs a tuneup.
Carrie: mine needs a few major adjustments.
Karra: Kiri says that one day she'll get to give you a few
minor adjustments that will help you.
Carrie: I should of never have told Russ that, now
Kiri's going be bugging me about it the whole lifetime.
Karra: well one day when you are abducted by a UFO for a
brief period of time, probably it will be Kiri and a pilot
and they'll get into a lot of trouble but you'll feel much,
Carrie: oh just as long as....I watched that movie "Fire
in the Sky".....just as long as they don't do...you
guys don't do....it's not one of them UFOs.
Karra: no, no.
Carrie: I'm sure you guys wouldn't do that to me.
Karra: now would we?
Carrie: but one of those UFOs, that was scary.
Russ: no, "Fire In the Sky" was a fictional,
Carrie: no, it was a true story though. It actually happened
Russ: I know but the actual things that they said the movie,
didn't actually happen. That was put in by Hollywood. The
guy who actually got abducted had none of that stuff happen
to him. He said nothing like what they were talking about.
Hollywood added that in to make it a little more you
Karra: and also to give people like
us a bad name.
Carrie: oh I wouldn't give you guys a bad name.
Karra: I know.
Carrie: but there is not people like you guys.
Karra: oh there's all sorts of different races out here
Carrie: I know and it scares me sometimes.
Karra: oh don't be scared, you're all right.
Carrie: I know I am, but it just, I don't know. It's weird
because I know when I was younger I've seen a couple UFOs
when I was younger.
Carrie: and I feel safe with you guys you know because you
guys are always there to protect me.
Karra: yes we are the arms that surround you and hold you
and stop you from sliding off the road when you're going a
little bit too fast in icy conditions. Or when you go around
a curve to a bridge and the bridge is in the shade and it's
all icy? We're the ones that make you slow down a bit.
Carrie: oh is that you guys?
Russ: hey Carrie?
Carrie: I tell you, if I had a "Vet" to try, I'd probably be
dead by now.
Karra: that's why you don't have....
Carrie: I've been scared half to death. I had to pull over
the other day. Maybe that was you guys that made me do it?
Karra: was that just after a bridge that you went over that
was a little bit icy?
Carrie: well it was a bridge, I went over a bridge okay?
Carrie: but my windshield wiper fluid had gone out. And I
didn't have any windshield wiper fluid and it's so muddy out
here that I mean my windows were caked with mud. I couldn't
see anything because I was behind a semi and I almost ran
into him. So I pulled over and I had to take snow from the
side of the road to wipe off my windows just to make it home
and I was 20 miles from home. And it was freaky. And I got
home and I told Mike I said, "I have got to get windshield
wiper fluid because I'm going to die out there if I don't."
And it was bad but we only have a couple days out here
like that. Like last week it was 51 below zero.
nice cool evening.
Carrie: yeah very cool, I mean it was cold but
see we were on the way to Cedar Rapids and seven people
got......eight people got killed in a motor-home.
Karra: oh really?
Carrie: we were three cars behind it. They got smashed by a
semi. And we were sitting there for an hour in traffic, we
didn't know what was going on. We were sitting there for an
hour in traffic and we're like, you know whining and
complaining "come on we got to go, we got to go" and then
all of a sudden somebody come back and told us what happened
and we just stopped and started praying and thanking God for
letting us get to our destination safe. It was so cold out
that in the time we were sitting there for that hour......
Carrie: our tires froze to the ground.
Carrie: that's how windy and cold it was. The wind
apparently picked up this semi and threw it over on
top of the motorhome. And then they were doing a detour?
Carrie: like right before this or right after this and we
missed the detour, we were two cars behind the
detour. That's how we ended up three cars behind the
Karra: oh really?
Carrie: we were two cars behind when they stopped the detour
and some guy got killed on the detour.
Karra: ohh it sounds like a nasty night out.
Carrie: yeah well it was the daytime and it was really bad.
Some guy I guess, he had a load full of cattle.
Carrie: and the wind just picked him up and rolled his truck
and the cattle survived because it was too heavy.
Carrie: it didn't pick that up but it picked up his cab and
it killed him. And it was like I mean it was weird because
it was like thank you you know because we could of been in
either one of those accidents.
Karra: uh-huh but you weren't. That's the main thing that
you were where you should have been.
Carrie: exactly, exactly and that's why we just
stopped complaining and we said you know, there
was some people there that didn't make it home and thank God
we made it.
Kara: that's right anyway I'm going to hand you back to
Karra: because Russ is thinking about his telephone bill
Russ: no I'm not.
Carrie: I know, I shouldn't have called.
Karra: that's..of course you can call whenever you wish.
Carrie: well I called but he called me back so
it's on his bill.
Karra: okay well Tia will finish up everything but in the
meantime you can talk to Russ whilst we stretch out and
Carrie: huh? I couldn't hear you, I was walking away.
Russ: she is going to stretch out and relax.
Carrie: oh, okay.
Russ: no biggie. Hey darling?
Russ: question for you.
Russ: have you ever experienced anything like missing time
Carrie: missing time?
Russ: you know like some part of your life that went by and
you can't remember what it was that went by but you were
awake and then you're somewhere else or something like that
and you don't know what happened?
Carrie: okay yeah.
Russ: what happened, when was this?
Carrie: are you talking about in my life?
Russ: yeah right.
Russ: no, anytime in your life.
Carrie: why, are you doing a report?
Russ: just curious, personal curiosity.
Carrie: there's been quite a few times in my life where I've
have had missing time.
Russ: what happened darling? Give me one good one.
Carrie: when Rob died.
Russ: what happened?
Carrie: I remember my mom calling me at the movie theater
and telling me that Rob was dead and I freaked out and I
went to Christine's house and nobody was there and I don't
know after that. I remember being in the schoolyard, I don't
know how I got there but I remember being in the schoolyard.
And then after that my parents had a search party looking
for me, nobody knew where I was at for like, I was
gone.........I can only trace about an hour of that time and
I was gone probably eight or nine hours.
Carrie: and I don't remember, I don't know if I just blocked
it out or.....but I remember being in the schoolyard and I
don't know how I got there and I don't remember. And then I
remember going home and getting really drunk and throwing up
all over the floor.
(Kiri comes back to the chat.)
Kiri: well we all do silly things like
that from time to time. When I get drunk, which ain't very
often, watch it buddy boy.
Carrie: uh oh.
Kiri: he's snickering at me.
Carrie: oh he knows something that I don't huh?
Russ: oh yeah.
Kiri: you got the wrong person buster, I don't have pointed
ears and a stumpy tail.
Carrie: I don't get that drunk anymore.
Kiri: that's good.
Carrie: I used to get that drunk a lot.
Carrie: and see that's why, that's
why when I was younger there's a lot of missing time in my
life Russ. There is a lot of my childhood that's missing
that I don't remember.
Russ: any time during when you saw those UFOs, did any of
that come up missing?
Carrie: well there was this one time I was walking home from
Jessica's house and remember I used to walk a lot?
Russ: yeah, sure.
Carrie: there was this one time I was walking home from
Jessica's house and I remember getting up on this one street
and I used to walk with my head straight up in the air.
Carrie: because I used to stare at the sky and it was late
at night and I saw this thing and it kind of
looked like a star.
Carrie: and it was like moving with me but you know how
sometimes your eyes can make it delusional?
Russ: yeah right.
Carrie: well it was moving with me so to see if I was
actually right or not, I actually crossed the road like in a
zigzag and it followed me. It was like it was attached to
Carrie: and then all of a sudden I just started running,
running and I ran all the way home. And I got home and after
that I don't remember. And then there was another time where
my mom and I saw UFO's actually shining their lights in our
backyard. It was so weird. I have seen them coming through
my window and my mom had a room above mine, so her window
faced the same way?
Carrie: and me my mom were the only ones home and I ran
upstairs because I saw all these lights and I ran upstairs I
woke my mom up. I said "wake up" and she's going "what's
going on?" I said "mom wake up, look out the window." She
looked out the window and we both just stood there. There
were three light formations or three UFOs up in the sky in a
"V" formation and they were shining their lights in our back
field. I mean there were lights, they were like a bluish
white light in our backyard and it was so trippy. And then
all of a sudden one shined in our bedroom and we both jumped
down and laid in bed and we held each other and we fell
Kiri: sorry to interrupt, but have you had any dreams of
different races and species of people?
Carrie: I'm trying to think. I don't know.
Kiri: and Karra is saying to me that she would like to give
you a total physical exam at some time.
Carrie: why, do you guys think I've been abducted?
Russ: sounds very possible.
Kiri: no we didn't say that, we didn't say that.
Russ: well they didn't say it.
Carrie: okay Russ, you can say it.
Russ: no I can't say it. You probably haven't but you know
what the heck, you never know.
Carrie: oh yeah, that's true. Well I'll give my consent for
a physical, I...
Russ: have you watched the X-Files lately?
Carrie: I mean because I have thought about it. I remember,
you know the very first time I ever saw a UFO was when I was
about seven years old.
Carrie: it was me, my brother, my cousin and our babysitter
we all sat there and watched it. I was about seven years
Kiri: it ties into Mark's conversation doesn't it?
Kiri: uh-huh. Okay I'm going to put Tia on.
(Tia returns to finish up the call.)
Carrie: I've seen a lot in my life, a lot
Russ: sounds like it darling.
Russ: I haven't seen but one.
Carrie: you've seen one?
Russ: just one and that was only because it flew over when
Omal was there and he pointed out to me. (During a camping
trip when Mark channeled Omal by the campfire.)
Carrie: yeah I've seen quite a few and that I thought was
pretty weird. I don't really tell a lot of people about it
just because of the fact that people think I'm Fruit Loops
when I tell them I've seen more than one.
Russ: oh I think you pretty safe talking about it here.
Carrie: well yeah, I know that. (Laughs) I guess I just
never really thought about it bringing it up with you guys.
I haven't thought about that in a really long time and....
Russ: well it's good to know I mean...
Carrie: but, you guys remember.....oh remember we talked
about this before. Remember that one, I don't know if it was
ever verified but remember that guy that used to come and
rape me in my sleep?
Russ: oh yeah right.
Tia: yeah I remember that.
Carrie: remember him? And we had talked about it?
Russ: yeah right.
Russ: well I remember the name you used. It was....started
with the P or something didn't it?
Carrie: are you thinking of Dagmar?
Russ: oh yeah right, D.
Carrie: no, no, that was a demon.
Carrie: isn't that exciting? Boy I've just had such an
Russ: more than me.
Carrie: no that was a demon that Rob dealt with.
Rob had done some channeling when he was pretty young, okay
he had done a lot of channeling.
Carrie: and he was kind of like a medium. I guess he did
what Mark does.
Tia: uh-huh yeah.
Carrie: and apparently he had let this thing or demon, I
thought it was a demon at the time, maybe it wasn't? And
being that Rob and I were connected, the demon wanted both
of us, whatever it was. His name was Dagmar. Well when Rob
was doing this one channeling session, he apparently let
Dagmar out and Dagmar almost killed one of the girls that
was there and Rob stopped it. Well Rob kind of put a mission
out on life, on his life.
is why I think he died. And I've only told one other person
this, this is why think he died, I think he was killed
because he was trying to save my life.
Tia: it sounds more like he sacrificed himself to save you.
Carrie: exactly and I couldn't tell anybody that you know but
the demon had started messing with me.
Carrie: he would find himself, and his roommate even vouched
for this, he would find himself in an unconscious state
fighting, physically fighting...
Carrie: like he had no control over what was going on. He
was in the actual......he was fighting Dagmar because
Dagmar....and now I'm starting to wow.....I'm like trying to
put this all together. I've never really pieced this to the
puzzle. But remember when Rob and I used to have little room
that we'd go to.
Carrie: we had a waterfall and then we had a room.
Carrie: I used to....my mom was so scared. She didn't
believe me at first until she saw him on my wall, his figure
was on my wall. At night I was so scared to go to sleep
because I could see him moving in the shadows and I would
hide. Every night I was so scared. And my mom had a priest
bless a crucifix and two holy Bibles and sort of laid
them on my bed like in a ritualistic kind of way? And she
had apparently had a minister come in and.....well it didn't
work because it wasn't a demon. I thought he had gone away
but he had only gotten into my dreams apparently that was
him. That's really weird.
Carrie: see I never really put the two together because
after Rob died he became more powerful but Rob I don't think
Russ: well Rob might've been what was keeping him weak eh?
It wasn't letting him...
Carrie: not because we were too weak, we were linked. But
then I could be wrong because I got rid of him after Rob
died because he became more strong, maybe it was when Rob
was in his transition period after he died?
Carrie: maybe Rob was in a weak period after he died.
Tia: yeah. Well we're going to wrap it up now
because we don't want to run up Rusty Nail's telephone bill.
Carrie: oh sure, now leave me with that kind of thought,
that heavy thought on my brain.
Tia: yeah but what better way to let you go, deep in
Russ: oh wait a minute Carrie.
Russ: I want to find out real quick how.....
SIDE ONE ENDS
(Tia finishes where she left off.)
Russ: Carrie, I always worry about you
sweetheart, you know that.
Tia: and I worry about you too sister mind, I'll be down
Carrie: okay, I'll be here. Yeah, I know, I've got to get to
Tia: yeah and Kiri's on about coming along as well.
Carrie: oh yeah, okay. The more the merrier.
Carrie: there is room for everybody.
Tia: oh there will be, there will be.
Carrie: there will be? I don't want to know.
Russ: good night my love.
Carrie: good night you guys, I love you.
Russ: love you too babe.
Carrie: and like I told Mark, we'll be at Mike's mom's if
you want to call on Christmas.
Russ: all righty, sounds good.
Carrie: if you can afford it.
Russ: well, we'll see what happens.
Tia: okay we'll see you later sister mind.
Carrie: okay, I love you guys.
Tia: yeah, we'll be down, bye.
Russ: bye love. I got to go to the bathroom.
Tia: pause the tape then.
(Omal comes on to work give some meta-concert procedure
Omal: .......felicitations Johnny,
greetings and felicitations Russ, let us get down to
business as time is limited.
Russ: well we got 45 minutes.
Omal: okay, questions please.
Omal: yes? Next question?
Russ: okay meta-concert.
Russ: all right, how do soul notes closely affect the
Omal: soul notes, they can and they cannot, it
depends on the frequency of the soul notes and the purpose
for the meta-concert.
Russ: okay, give me an example of how they would affect the
Omal: productively, in a healing meta-concert, they would be
productive. In a coercion meta-concert, the frequency of the
notes being in a harmonic range that is harmonious to each
other or the members the meta-concert, it would have a
detrimental fact in that it would drain power from the
purpose of a coercive meta-concert.
Russ: okay, what about a shielding meta-concert?
Omal: shielding certainly, a harmonic shielding meta-concert
with people of a similar frequency can enhance the
meta-concert however, people that are not harmonically
linked with their frequencies can have just as strong if not
stronger meta-concert if they know how to use the variable
frequencies of the different harmonic frequencies of the
meta-concert of their personal beings.
Russ: okay, now say for example you have the same group of
people and you have three nights, one with healing, one with
coercion, one was shielding. Now, would you then switch
around the various duties to make those harmonies work for
the different purposes?
Russ: okay so give me an example of how if in a healing you
have one person doing executive and so on....
Omal: that would be the healer.
Russ: okay right, you would change around the next wave for
coercion so that the harmonious soul notes wouldn't affect
Omal: you would put the strongest coercer in charge of the
final focusing as the executive.
Omal: the same with any other meta-concert, if you have a
strong person in that particular ability, it is useful to
put them in that position. However, if they are not fully
versed on their ability and only know that they have
coercion and they are a strong coercer but do not know how
to use coercion properly, then it would be silly to put them
as the executive. You would therefore put them in the
primary or the secondary.
Omal: and the same with any other function. So it is not
always best to have the strongest healer as a healer. Or the
strongest coercer as the executive, or the strongest
psychokinesis person as the executive, it would not work in
Russ: right because they don't understand its use properly.
Omal: correct. It is more important that you have an
individual that understands the ability that is being used.
For example you can have a very weak coercer that can have
his ability enhanced a 100 fold by the meta-concert. Even
though he is weak, it becomes 100% enhanced due to the fact
of the other people in the meta-concert supplying the
Russ: okay, now I assume then that this would be more
prevalent between the conductor and the executive then the
other members of the meta-concert?
Omal: correct, it is handy to have those
two individuals being of like minds and like strengths
however it is also important to have a strong conductor. It
is not necessary for him to have any particular ability
where he is strong, but be able to channel vast quantities
Russ: okay now before we discussed the fact that the
conductor has to hold the energy and store it before he
sends it off right?
Russ: okay, now with that much energy being stored, what are
the chances of the conductor overloading without channeling
it out first before he channels it out?
Omal: he himself can act in an emergency situation as an
executive. It is unfocused and untrained energy and it is
just dissipated. It is not common for a conductor to cash in
his chips. It does happen from time to time and that is
usually due to inexperience or something going wrong
somewhere else in the meta-concert. For example somebody
having a massive heart attack in the primary would cause a
flashover which would flash in both directions and it would
be the function of the conductor to take most of the energy
and to take most of the blast of that individual who has
just dropped out of the meta-concert therefore saving the
rest of the meta-concert by expending himself.
Russ: okay, now one thing about the conductor that I'm not
sure on is that in my healing where I am working on somebody
and I'm draining the power out or their pain sometimes
through my root or my grounding.......
Russ: okay? If the conductor is properly grounded, couldn't
he just ground out any excess energy coming through thereby
saving himself also and the meta-concert?
Omal: sometimes it doesn't quite work that way due to the
fact of the sudden energy bloom within him will
override everything. Even passing down as a ground, it will
scorch a path which would drag him down so that he is laid
low which means?
Russ: yeah, he's laid up.
Russ: okay now I'm trying to picture a meta-concert using
that much energy and on third dimension you know it's tough
to imagine.....on sixth dimension, I'm sure it's much
more prevalent and much more where you have to be aware of
such things. But on third dimension, it's so rare where we
deal with that much energy in the first place.
Omal: correct, correct. But sometimes there is that
possibility where you would have 30 or 100 or 200 or a
thousand people together working for a common good. You
could have 56,000 people working together in a meta-concert
and if they were organized correctly, they would've been
able to have picked up the stage and levitated it. (Talking
about a recent Grateful Dead concert I attended.)
Russ: okay, now a lot of what we're discussing about
meta-concert concerns future use.
Omal: exactly. Most of it is designed for prosperity.....not
Omal: posterity that will be passed on by people reviewing
your tapes or by people that you teach. It will be passed on
and passed on and then finally put into practice. You are
the scribe, you are the record keeper, you are the
Russ: the communicator.
Omal: the communicator. So therefore even though you have
practical experience, which is part of being a librarian
that you now have the knowledge to write it down having
experienced it, it is not necessary for you to do. But it is
for you to understand and be able to write it down in a
format where it would be easy for somebody else to read and
go "Ahh,, this is how you do it"....step one, step two and
Russ: hmmm, you know there are some kind of computers where
they just hear the voice and they write out what they hear.......
Russ: without somebody having to type it all in.
Omal: yes I believe Korton has a couple of those in his
Russ: well I'm going to find one in our newly discovered or
invented a while ago but unpurchased by myself so I can just
play these tapes and let this stuff just all get written
Omal: uh-huh, I think you might be advisable to look not in
your normal computer line. You may look at a more obscure
brand that is technologically more advanced and the others
are just catching up with their graphics.
Russ: I see.
Omal: in fact you already have part of it present.
Russ: what's that? You mean the graphic on the
Omal: no, where is my finger-pointing?
Russ: toward the wall.
Omal: through the wall.
Russ: through the wall.
Omal: through the next room.
Russ: through the next room to the Amiga? (An
old compute brand Mark was using at the time.) Oh okay,
I'll look into that.
Omal: yes they are more advanced than most of your
computers. They are just catching up, they do have voice
activated computers does your Amiga company. They do have a
much larger capacity, they do have a much better link with
other computers of their kind. But because of certain
political and economic intrigues within your country....
Russ: we're stuck with IBM.
Russ: and Microsoft.
Omal: but go outside of the area, that sphere of influence
and what is one of the largest computer companies on your
Russ: because they're all in Europe.
Russ: so theoretically then I've got the hardware,
all I need now is the software and maybe the little bit of
hardware I need to update that Amiga to make this tape
collection into a written verbiage. Of course some of them
will have to be heavily censored. I don't know how the
computer's going to go...ughgh...errgg...ahhhh.
Omal: I do not know either. You'd have to talk to our
resident antique computer specialist however he is not
available at this time.
Russ: no problem. Okay now then, back to meta-concert
Russ: now I remember us discussing our party
that we were to held for those...
Omal: oh yes.
Russ: right. Now I'm starting to put together this party is
designed to make participants feel closer in tune.
Omal: correct. It is more of a relaxing situation, there may
be or may not be a channeling session, that is irrelevant.
What is relevant is the fact that these individuals will get
together, if the smoke, they will exchange cigarettes, they
will laugh, they will joke, they will enjoy alcoholic adult
beverages. They may make fools of themselves but they will
be getting to know each other.
Russ: okay, now you're aware of the person down here called
Omal: I have had occasion to have information on her passed
Russ: okay she is going to be part of future channeling
sessions apparently I found out tonight.
Russ: so specifically she might lend a hand in this
meta-concert that we're working on......
Russ: as an energy source......
Omal: and so we'll get to know her better with the
party so it's kind of handy we haven't had it yet.
Omal: correct. But I don't think she'll be able to attend
until I believe if Kiri is saying correctly until after your
ski season is over due to the fact of her shift.
Russ: right well maybe we'll schedule it for it for a day
off if we can get the scheduling down.
Russ: see what happens. Okay, that's it for me.
Omal: okay question Johnny. Do you have any for me?
John: no, my mind's kind of blank right now.
Omal: okay, as Russ was taking up most of the opportunity
for you to discuss and not nodding in your direction either
to see if you had any questions. To quote Karra, hold out
your wrist, get your two fingers and go (slaps
Russ: bad boy, bad Russ.
John: what is the ideal number of people for a meta-concert?
Is there an ideal number?
Omal: no there is no ideal number but preferably five and
John: so does the more people that participate, does it
generate more energy?
Omal: correct. By having let us say five people, you have
the minimal number. You have your primary, number one
primary, number two primary.....sorry secondary. You have
your number one secondary and your number two secondary. You
have your primary you have your conductor and your
executive. Five is the bare minimum. You can practice with
less, you can practice the conductor and the executive mode
but it is really necessary to have five people. Six people,
that is good because you would bring up one of the
experienced secondaries to a primary role so that the
primaries, instead of having two, has one each. If you have
let us say 10, then you would split up between the
secondaries and the primaries so that it would be a roughly
even number and then you'd save two people for the
and the executive role.
John thank you.
Omal: you're welcome.
Russ: thank you Omal.
Omal: live long, prosper and I'll be back.
her ring mistress duties.)
John: is that a Schwarzenegger impression?
Russ: hi Tia.
Tia: (says hi in Durondedunn)
Tia: hello. Okay, I'll see you guys shortly.
(Kiri and Karra make their return to chat.)
Russ: hi Kiri....oh I'm not letting you......
Karra: it's a team effort actually.
(Kiri takes over)
Kiri: oh dear and what have we done to ourself Johnny.
John: oh I think we caught the flu.
Kiri: hmmm, yes. Tia did give you a medical
Durondedunn remedy did she not?
John: yeah, yeah. I'm going to try it tomorrow.
Kiri: ummm, we suggest that you try it tonight
Kiri: okay. Secondly, you've been holding the protein down
that you had earlier on correct?
John: yeah I wasn't able to eat very much so........
Kiri: but you ate something?
John: yeah I ate a little bit and I'm going to try to eat
Kiri: okay that is good. Okay we were going to come over and
channel some energy through you but I don't think it is
necessary however you do have on your aura, there is a
little dark spot down here which is probably due to the fact
of the vomiting and what did Mark call it? Hold on whilst we
check......coming out of both ends.
(A sudden sound happens)
John: yeah. Yeah I haven't had any diarrhea yet.
Kiri: what was that?
Russ: the door.
John: that was the door.
Russ: cat just wandered by.
John: we just let a cat in.
okay. So do you have questions for me? Okay, not at this
Russ: yeah a couple hundred.
(Karra takes over)
Karra: I wish she wouldn't make Mark's
body do things like that.
Russ: it looks good on you though.
Karra: it probably would look good on me.
Russ: first off, what is it that you're not telling me
concerning Carrie? Now what is the big hush-hush here that
we need to get possibly into or not into depending on the
Karra: next question please. This is neither the time to sit
down or the place to sit down and discuss it.
Russ: okay, how about her abductions?
Karra: again this is not the time or the place. First of all
I would like to give her a physical exam preferably in
person but if not we will blindfold Carrie and we will use
the host body to do the physical exam.
Russ: okay. Well okay.....
Karra: but blindfold her due to the fact that she would feel
uncomfortable having a male body give her the physical exam.
Russ: right. Well we'll have to go to the wedding after all
to get that one done. That will be quite a wedding present.
a total physical exam.
Karra: the reason why we won't discuss Carrie
at this time is because of that so we will not discuss the
problems of the abduction or her physical conditions.
John: because it's being recorded?
Karra: and somebody does have a way of keeping track of time
and does know when things are missing.
Russ: okay. Save that for future reference.
Karra: besides Tia is informing me that he is at 45%.
(Mark's power levels.)
Russ: oh okay. Well what have you got for me babe?
Karra: well what I've got for you I can't give you in this
physical form but on the other hand let me see, well
we've got dad coming next week.
Karra: so we're going to have a little bit of a party, just
our half of the family.
Russ: oh good.
Karra: the other half isn't invited because this is a eldest
Karra: big sister puts her foot down and says no to her
Russ: oh, temper tantrum. This should be fun to watch.
Karra: no, I do not have a temper tantrum. It is.....
Russ: no, not you, Kiri.
Karra: okay, anymore questions?
Russ: yeah, why do you have so much patience with me
Karra: when you 70 or 80 years plus or 70 years plus, I
stopped counting, you will learn patience too.
Russ: I'm sure I will. I'll probably have patience with
myself that is now then at that point.
Karra: uh-huh, that is the first rule to learning patience
is having patience with yourself with the failings of your
body. You've got to understand that you are not Superman,
you are limited by this flesh and bone, this cartilage, this
calcium, this iron, this potassium, all the chemicals that
are in here and in here is what limits you. You cannot dive
underwater and hold your breath for half an hour. You cannot
fly through the air for a 100 miles, not unless you wish to
get burned to a cinder or frozen. You cannot walk outside in
conditions of minus a hundred and fifty
without feeling cold and freezing.
John: can you do all that stuff?
Karra: no, I wish I could but I can't.
Russ: well maybe someday. Well thank you darling.
Karra: not in this form, I've got many, many, many
lifeforms before I will be able to do any of those things.
(Tia wraps up the channeling session.)
Russ: hi Tia.
Tia: hello, greetings. (Talks to the cat in Durondedunn) Is
John: he's just playing.
Russ: that is another good fun little bet me and Kiri got
Tia: yes, you guys do bet a lot against each other don't
Russ: yeah well, I think it'll be a fun challenge for her.
Russ: yeah she hasn't seen the intermediate course yet.
Russ: makes the Alpha Centauri course look like novice time.
Tia: you haven't seen the full holograms.
Russ: no I haven't.
Tia: you haven't skied on hologram mode, I have and boy, my
heart was pounding and that was just looking down the
Russ: yeah no kidding.
John: so you guys don't ski on snow?
John: oh okay.
Tia: yeah we just have holograms of the course.
John: oh okay, so it is just like a flight simulator, would
that be comparable?
Tia: yeah, that would be comparable. It's a simulator of the
course that we will be competing on in late March.
John: I see, I understand now.
Tia: uh-huh. It was nice that sister mind called.
that was a fun little conversation.
John: yeah she seems to be in good spirits.
Tia: yeah, we almost got reprimanded.
Tia: well when I was talking to her and I kept on getting
prodded it was where I was getting prodded.
Russ: well maybe she wasn't looking where she was prodding.
Tia: she was looking where she was prodding and making
comments in my ear wishing that it was Carrie.
Tia: which is just as well that she took it for a spin
because it gave me a chance to rearrange my panties.
Russ: oh good.
Russ: oh, Calvin didn't come.
Tia: uh-huh. (sings a ditty) This one needs cleaning. (The copper
poles of the pyramid that was being built for Mark
to channel in.)
Russ: yeah, we'll put the works on it.
John: what do you use, like Brasso or something?
Tia: what's this?
John: it's an ashtray.
Tia: oh okay.
John: it's a Polish ashtray.
disguised as a peanut can.
John: looks like a peanut can but it's actually an ashtray.
Tia: terrible, disgusting, ucky habit.
John: what's that, peanuts?
Tia: no, smoking. Yeah but if you're peeing nuts you got to
go and see a doctor. Actually, if you're peeing nuts, I
suppose you could make a lot of money.
John: you're probably right.
Tia: uh-huh. Oh dear, dear, dear, dear, dear. Next
week is a free week, we will be channeling from the
Tia: and as for the party, let us go for it in the New Year
and let's get everybody together, send out official
invites. Can we do that?
Russ: oh yeah, I can do them off my computer.
Tia: probably leave it open for a channeling session but not
totally open if you know what I mean.
Tia: is there anybody else? And Carrie and Michael.
Russ: oh really? What, over a phone call or something?
Tia: but address it as special "even though that you will
not be here in person, we know you'll be here in spirit."
Russ: okay, I shall do so.
has raised numerous questions which I shall have lots of fun
trying to discover the answers to.
Tia: uh-huh, yes.
Russ: like for example, why is some folks taking such an
interest in somebody and why those same folks take such an
interest in us? Second answer is much easier to answer than
Tia: okay, what is the answer to the second one?
Russ: because of the fact that Mark and my association with
you guys up on Hades Base makes us an obvious candidate for
Tia: uh-huh. You're also cutting somebody out who
needs to be included.
Russ: who? Mike or Rob oh Johnny?
Kiri: uh-huh. I don't think that Johnny realizes it, but now
that he's been introduced to us and the channeling sessions
and all that
goes on, he has now become a target also for surveillance
Russ: now Tia?
Russ: Carrie's health problems would be.....
Russ: oh wait, oh wait, that's right, nevermind I forgot.
Russ: again, I'm just going to be dwelling on this all
Tia: uh-huh. Yes I know, I know, poor Carrie. But what
we might do is, does she have a video player does she?
Tia: what we could do is, you and Mark could rent a video
Tia: and at the party we'll video record everything.
Russ: oh that will really make everybody just loosen up
won't it? I don't think so, bad idea.
Tia: it's for Carrie.
Russ: I know it's for Carrie. Well in that case, let's just
hook up a VCR feed right through the computer on a fax mode
to her, she can watch us on the computer, we could talk to
Tia: I've got a better idea, channeling session.
We'll get one in there and so that she can be in here when
she calls right? And we can record it with the video camera
and then mail it to her. And we can have, let me see......
Russ: that saved you. I need to get somebody into the
channeling sessions that's got a VCR equipment.
Tia: yeah what we can do is we could put the video recorder
above the telephone right? And put a pair of boots and a
pair of jeans and stuff them right? So you put....it's
like the telephone....you know her voice is coming from the
telephone and it's her there as her eyes are the
camera and the trousers represent her legs with the boots.
Russ: oh, fair enough.
Tia: uh-huh. Did
you like Kiri's new race outfit?
Russ: I haven't seen it yet.
Tia: oh. You might be able to pick it up on the computer
net, the racing.
Tia: yeah, but don't look at me when I'm skiing.
Russ: oh, I'll make a point of it.
Tia: uh-huh, skip over that bit. But I'll tell you what is
spectacular, is the crash....Kiri's crash for the super G.
Russ: oh yeah that one.
Russ: oh well.
John: can't you get video equipment from the guy that works
next door to you? Can't he give you some kind of break?
Russ: doesn't have any recorders, I mean cameras.
John: oh I see.
Russ: he rents VCRs.
John: right, right. I wasn't sure.
Russ: but no cameras.
whole other matter.
John: yeah, he's pretty good about
cutting you some breaks on stuff.
Russ: well I can get a hold of some cameras. Aah, I've got
to work on that part. It would be a lot easier to just video
record this stuff.
(Tia plays with the cat)
Tia: has his tail got enlarged?
John: not that I had noticed, it's been broken a
Tia: no I thought it had fluffed up. But we're playing
aren't we huh?
John: yeah it could have been from the static electricity
Tia: yeah it's possible, because he is pumping and snicking.
You ready for round two buddy boy? I'll have a cup of tea
SIDE TWO ENDS
(Postscript: Carrie had a biopsy done and
was found to have ovarian cancer with little chance of
having children. Omal organized a meta-concert of a
1,000 individuals on the base channeled through Mark.
Doctors were amazed when they had to call off the
surgery due to the lack of any traces of the cancer in
a follow-up exam. She and Mike had a beautiful
daughter later on who I met when she had just turned
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