Archivist Notes: This podcast was
highlighted by two things that almost never happened
in the channeling sessions. I had to excuse myself
before the end due to exhaustion which led to the
happy accident where the tape was left running past
the last speaker. Because of that, we have one of
the rare instances that we get to hear Mark's real
voice as he comes back from visiting the base. It's
with fond memories that I am once more treated to
hearing my dear friend and spiritual brother.
On that note then is Tia
borrowing that voice to discuss the GM strike at the
time, a trip down memory lane to the Monica Lewinsky
scandal and how one of her and Mark's children got
sick over eating a dead mouse. Leonedies comes on
after her to go over the preliminary groundwork for
the talks between the various races involved with
the planet and why it was our planet that was chosen
to host the talks. Omal follows him to finish up
side one with a strong reminder that growth is
taking place all around us and is part of the
natural process. We also categorize the various
Defcon levels relating to the possible scenarios
leading to an economic and societal collapse.
Karra gets side two
started by letting us know she will be away for the
upcoming week for a formal function on Sirius and then
has an excellent discourse on the ingredients of
chocolate and cigarettes. Kiri goes next explaining
how Tia came to get her nickname but only gets a short
way before I head for bed. Her and Skip go on without
me about the technical aspects of home security and
car engines. Side two ends with Mark returning from
the sixth dimension and going over the personal
exhaustion I had been experiencing at the time.
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(The Fluffy One gets
Russ: oh fluffy one.
(Tia says something in Durondedunn
with a vengeance.)
Skip: fluffy one.
Russ: oh Miss Fluffy.
Skip: how come you're fluffy tonight?
Tia: it's a Kiri expression.
Tia: okay, down to business, down to
business. Okay, where shall I start? Where do you
want me to start? Okay.......
Russ: I can help start a few things.
Tia: okay, what do you want to start?
Russ: well, for example, our Defcon
meetings that you had with Omal.
Russ: well we've got a strike
Tia: we're all set up....
Russ: we're all set up.
Tia: however, what's been going on
that got us all rattled and everything is the fact
that our estimates are two billion dollars in loss
to GM due to this strike, the fact that it is
unlawful, unlawful and illegal, so that is civil
Russ: can't be illegal.
Tia: it is illegal.
Russ: what's the statutes under which
it is illegal though?
Tia: the union contract states that
they can only deal with local issues or safety
infractions or and the third one was speeding up the
line to increase productivity and thus being a
safety issue. None of these were the reason for them
going out on strike.
Russ: was it pay?
Tia: nope, well partly, partly also
the fact that GM wanted to lay off and modernize and
improve the plant and lay off approximately 50,000
workers overall I think, I could be wrong on the
number throughout the whole entire company and to
increase and modernize the plants at Flint which
aren't in any of the three criteria. So, our
decision on looking at the legal statutes and
everything is that it was an illegal strike. I could
go into more detail but I'm not going to. That was
one of the reasons why we had our Defcon meetings.
Also the fact that the stock market has dropped over
400 points in just over a week and a half. Again,
the reason why we didn't step up the level is
because it did not meet any of our criteria of a
drop of a 150 points at the end of the day. There
was a time where we had a meeting that was an
emergency, well not an emergency meeting but I was
summoned to Omal's office where the Dow had actually
dropped 211 points. In the meeting we discussed
various things which I can't go over but that was
one of the things that was looked upon. As I was in
a meeting at the time I also had my little ear
device in so I could hear what the stock market was
doing and I decided against Omal that we should not
step up and make a announcement. This was done
because I felt that the market was going to recover
as it was dropping so rapidly that my feeling was
that investors would come in and bargain hunt which
they did. That day it ended down 94 points. Also, a
natural disaster which has been discussed much
lately is the fact that 89 individuals have died in
Texas due to the heat, there is close to a half a
billion dollars in loss through electricity losses
and fiscal losses, cattle and so on due to the heat.
It is pushing up the prices of food throughout the
United States of America, primarily beef prices and
chicken prices. So looking at that, it was "okay",
but again that did not quite meet the criteria
necessary. Everything was real border point when we
made our decisions. Fortunately, two of the factors,
the Flint plant's problems kind of aided in being
settled helped us to step down, to come down from
our readiness point.
Russ: hmmm, pretty close though huh?
Tia: uh-huh. So we were pretty ready
to release a communiqué but we decided against it.
You see, they have to meet definitely and clearly
the various criteria.
Tia: now, let us move along a little
bit to my pet subject, Bill Clinton.
(Skip starts to snigger.)
Tia: uh-huh, what?
Skip: go ahead darling, I'm just
Tia: okay, first of all, has the
president perjured himself? So far everything is
rumored. She is going to say yes they did have sex.
They said, she hasn't said yet, she hasn't said
anything. So whether or not he has perjured himself
is still up in the air. Now, let us assume that he
didn't, let us also assume that she is going to say
that nothing happened etc. etc.. This basically
takes the sting out of impeachment processes which
in my opinion is good due to the fact that if he is
impeached, Al Gore would become president and things
will not go as well as they should because people
will not trust anybody to do with President Clinton.
Now, if she says that they did and he has committed
perjury, then that is a felony but it is not
something that would be desirable for an
impeachment. With the way things are going, the
proceedings for the trial for perjury would more
than likely take place after he's out of the
presidency. Also, the investigations into campaign
finance and selling or letting U.S. companies give
technology to the Chinese is also something that is
very serious and an impeachable offense. However,
again if he is impeached then the government is
hamstrung, he becomes a laughingstock, the U.S.
becomes a laughingstock. So again I think they're
not going to impeach him as much as it would be the
appropriate thing to do. However, if they do impeach
him, the correct thing for him to do would be to
stand down. However, I don't think he would, he
would want to fight this out tooth and nail because
he is so used to getting what he wants and people
believing what he says. Whether or not it is in
truth or not is besides the point, he is used to
getting his way. Any questions?
Skip: well isn't this an election
Tia: yes, not for him though, it's
just midterm elections for the Senate and the House.
Skip: oh, is it 2000 when it's an
election year for him?
Tia: uh-huh and he won't get reelected
because he can't run.
Skip: well it isn't that far away.
Tia: no exactly.
Skip: and I don't think in my personal
opinion, I don't think they'll start impeachment
proceedings because he's only got a year and five
months to go.
Tia: that's right.
Skip: so I don't think they'll impeach
him my darling, I really don't, I don't even think
they'll even start the proceedings because it takes
longer than that.
Tia: that's my point exactly. You see
the thing is that everything has been done
deliberately delay, delay, delay, delay.
Skip: they're still delaying.
Skip: and if it runs what, two months
into three months, four months, six months? They
ain't going to start impeachment proceedings, it
would cost too much money.
Tia: that's right. If they were to
impeach him they would have to have a majority, a
single majority, that's just one more person over
the 50% to start the process, they would have to
have 51% to start the process.
Tia: they can do that right now if
Skip: yeah they could.
Tia: uh-huh, why haven't they?
Tia: no, the
fact that the longer this drags out, the better the
Republicans look. It's all politically oriented. I
personally don't like him because he's lied, he's
cheated, he's manipulated, he's conspired,
conspiracy. By looking at the talking points, a lot
of this is in legalese terms. Now, Linda
Tripp under oath has said that she did not
supply Lewinsky with any advice on how to proceed,
she just recorded. Some of her talking points and
talking points are a legal term, some of her talking
points......Monica Lewinsky's, are written purely in
legalese jargon. She doesn't know that much law to
be able to write in legalese jargon.
Skip: yeah, I can believe that.
Tia: now if...
Skip: because she's just a secretary,
she's not a.....
Tia: she was just an intern.
Tia: if the president talked with her
and suggested, that's obstruction......
Tia: but it's a gray area of
Russ: not really, because of the fact
that she's going to testify that he told
her........or they discussed how to cover up the
fact that they had had sex.
Tia: uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,
uh, uh, uh, that is clear conspiracy and I think
he's smart enough to know that.
Tia: how he would go about it would be
giving hints on other cases on how to avoid the
issue. Avoiding the issue can be done many, many
different ways on explaining how to avoid the issue.
So even though he is not telling her directly to
lie, he he is telling her indirectly how to avoid an
issue. There's the words right there, how to avoid
the issue. That is not lying, that is changing the
subject, that is sidestepping, that is avoiding the
issue. That is not lying, that is not perjury but it
is still manipulation and obstruction.
Skip: yeah but like you said honey,
it's a very gray area and how do you prove something
Skip: it's so, so difficult, it'd be
almost impossible to prove something like that.
Russ: well, you couldn't prove it only
because it's her word against his. She's got a case
of blanket immunity against prosecution.......
Russ: and so it doesn't hurt her to
say anything she wants to say.
Skip: to a point.
Tia: she cannot lie.
Skip: that's perjury, she won't get
immunity from perjury.
Tia: that's right. If she's lies with
immunity right? The immunity is revoked if they
think she is lying.
Russ: they think she's lying or proves
Skip: proves she's lying.
Tia: prove or even think.......
Skip: no, they can't pull it on a
Tia: well if there is the evidence
that she is not being truthful, even if she is being
truthful and it appears that she is not, then they
can revoke it. So for her, she has to be as honest
Tia: you see the problem?
Tia: now if they get the correct
information, how do they proceed? Do
they request an impeachment hearing? No, I
don't think so toward what I mentioned earlier.
Skip: sidestep the issue.
Tia: well what they do is they wait
until he's out of office and then slap him with
three felony charges. Oh dear, he goes away for
life. I don't think they will do that.
Skip: no, they ain't even going to do
Tia: they will definitely if the
outcome is negative, they will definitely,
definitely go ahead and press charges. Maybe one,
maybe two offenses. His ability to ever hold office
ever again in any capacity is revoked.
Skip: down the drain.
Russ: he would be pardoned and by
whoever the sitting president is.
Tia: maybe, maybe not, depends on how
it serves them. If, let us say it is Al Gore and he
pardons him, it looks bad for him.
Russ: well it's like Ford.
Tia: uh-huh, did Ford get reelected?
Skip: nope. Well look at the present
Tia: it is even more corrupt than the
Skip: I think that's why I don't get
involved in it because it's just so much garbage.
Tia: actually it's very entertaining
picking all the threads and pulling and watching.
Skip: yeah but it's still garbage.
Skip: I can go outside and dig in my
garbage cans and get better stuff than what's in
Tia: uh-huh but it's entertaining to
watch what is actually said in these hearings and
what is reported to be said.
Skip: well you're an unprejudiced
Tia: umm, I've got to admit that I am
prejudiced, I do not like Bill Clinton.
Skip: well yeah but you're not
involved in it.........
Skip: per se like we are.
Tia: no true, true.
Skip: okay? That's why I say you're an
Tia: that's right. Actually I find it
very, very fascinating. Okay, any questions?
Skip: not in politics.
Russ: I haven't any.
Skip: what do you got going?
Russ: oh we got Leonedies coming out
in a little while.
Skip: oh the short one huh?
Russ: he's pretty short.
Tia: yeah, it's nice to actually be
one of the tallest people when all the children are
Skip: oh golly.
Tia: oh we found out what was up, what
was wrong with Minerva's upset stomach.
(One of Tia and Mark's children, "the Cubs", whose
ancestry is based on the feline genome like their
Skip: oh yeah?
Tia: uh-huh. She got given a gift by
one of the cats. One of the cats brought her a
mouse, dead mouse.
Skip: oh no.
Tia: uh-huh. Instead of cleaning it
properly, she just gutted it, took off most of its
fur, most of its fur, took off its head and chowed
it down which is okay but she forgot to wash the
Skip: oh golly.
Tia: so she got an upset stomach,
she's better now.
Skip: she's better okay?
Skip: all right.
Russ: that's good to hear.
Tia: uh-huh and she got a lesson on
preparing food properly. But it was a gift that she
accepted and instead of doing the proper thing of
washing and cleaning and saving it for later on, she
thought it would make a nice snack.
Skip: it did.
Skip: but it upset her stomach too.
Tia: yeah. Put it this way, she was
going through the eye of a needle. When she wasn't
upchucking, she was going through the eye of a
Skip: oh boy.
Tia: uh-huh. Giving her lots to drink
to keep the electrolytes and everything up.
Skip: poor baby.
Russ: that is a drag.
Tia: uh-huh. But her sisters learned
Skip: yeah, I'll bet you all of them
Tia: oh yeah. A question tonight at
the dinner table was, "is everything
Tia: "is everything
Skip: I'll bet.
Tia: uh-huh. Okay, I better put on our
Russ: all righty.
Skip: go ahead.
(Leonedies adds his
knowledge to the session.)
Leonedies: greetings and felicitations
and welcome. Greetings Skip, greetings Russ and why
was she giggling at me? I don't know. Okay, let me
start by saying that it is an honor and a pleasure
to be able to communicate through the medium of the
Internet to relay the information necessary for the
spiritual growth and understanding of your planet.
My participation in the past and the present is all
calculated to be able to achieve a harmonic
uplifting on the spiritual level to achieve an
ascending advancement for all parties involved. The
challenge that I gave at the start of this
dissertation, you will insert it at the top, is part
of the necessary teaching tools that have been laid
out. Even though my part in this discussion is
purely as an adviser and observer, it is necessary
for me from time to time
to intervene to be able to facilitate and expedite
the dialogue necessary for the communication. In
achieving the groundwork set up for these dialogues
to be able to increase the vibrational frequency of
all beings involved in these discussions, it is
necessary to motivate. If I was to sit and just be
an independent, unbiased observer, then my time
involved would expire before the necessary levels
and achievements had been set forth. In
intervening and in your terminology, a swift kick in
the heiny, is to speed up and put back on course
these talks that I so dearly would like to see
happen in my period involved however, if it is not
to happen within my time that I have chosen to be
involved, I will leave behind the necessary
groundwork and framework for it to continue.
Russ: in the groundwork that has been
laid to this point, how much more of it do we have
left to go?
Leonedies: quite a lot, this is just
the beginning. The beginning starts with but a
single breath, you inhale, it is started. Much has
already been done. Much, much more remains to be
Russ: okay, well the time schedule is
looking much better now.
Russ: things are clicking in as far as
schedules and being able to find the time necessary
to do so and the implementation of it now is that we
need to work out a schedule I think that we can
maintain. Say for example, we need to accomplish
this by this date, that by that date and we need to
work out an outline I think of where we'd like to be
and if not, we can kind of see where we are and how
to improve it.
Leonedies: setting deadlines and dates
is not appropriate for this kind of discussion due
to the fact that by setting a deadline, and if the
deadline is not met due to circumstances beyond your
control, then you look bad. If we put approximate
deadlines, let us say that the first group should be
assembled within a year, first group to start the
preliminary discussions on what will be discussed at
the discussions for the talks on the setup and the
language, then that is acceptable. What I was
saying, instead of a year, is a year to a year and a
half for the first core group to form to be able to
get ready to talk and discuss what will be discussed
at the discussions prior to the main talks.
Russ: okay, well would you like to
work with me and Karra and any other interested
individuals about setting up approximate schedules
or we should just leave it up to....?
Leonedies: I will lay down the
groundwork, I will talk with Mme. ambassador and
yourself and the host and we will lay out the
groundwork necessary for a timeline. All times will
Russ: of course.
Leonedies: good. I will try to
schedule time in between my learning times and my
nap nap times.
Russ: okay, that'll work. Mostly we
will be able to get an idea of, like a good idea of
by doing this.......setting up a procedures that
will assist us going into the talks more.
Leonedies: procedure is an inaccurate
organization...........we need to organize a little
Russ: the time spent and that the
things that are done within that time to make it
more productive or productive as far as achievements
or effort put out toward achievement.
Leonedies: is the term we as in you
and myself or we as in a basic overall outlook?
Russ: basic overall outlook.
Leonedies: okay, that is something
that you're going to have to be careful about. By
saying we, you're implying yourself, you're implying
Skip, you are implying the host, you're implying us
up here and myself. So that is part of the language
that you have to learn to understand.
Russ: right, okay.
Leonedies: let me give you a quick
coaching lesson in communicating in a political or a
politically motivated environment. I will make a
statement. It is necessary for parties involved to
lay a groundwork........no, let me restart. It is
necessary for the host organization that is hosting
these upcoming discussions to lay out a framework
which is appropriate for all parties if permissible.
You see I have substituted a few key words, we
meaning everybody, the host hosting has been
Russ: there is no host.
Leonedies: there is a host.
Russ: oh, there is a host?
Leonedies: yes, your planet is hosting
Leonedies: through its medium of the
Internet. See, it is worded very carefully.
Leonedies: you have to think about
what is said, you do not assume what is said is what
Leonedies: your intestinal track is
Skip: yeah, I filled up.
Leonedies: ahhh. Question.
Russ: by the world hosting itself,
we're dealing with all the groups involved with the
Russ: now many other worlds besides
this as we've talked before will be affected by
Russ: at a later point will they be
able to be involved in the talks with ours?
Leonedies: well that is the general
idea that they will be involved from the get-go. You
see the reason why you were selected to be the
hosting planet is due to the fact that most of the
races that are beings involved in these discussions
are involved in your planet one way or another. So
therefore it is the ideal meeting ground right in
the middle of the involvement area. It would be no
good hosting a debate or a discussion on let us say
Sirius because that is away from the center of the
problem. By addressing it at the center of the
problem and having everybody aware of what is going
on with all their monitoring equipment, with all
their technology, seeing what each party does, may
be able to facilitate and speed up the process
instead of being as far as possible in a sterile,
neutral environment where it is not seeing what is
going on by one party whilst the other party is
still doing what it is doing whilst the discussions
are going on. So it is important to host it at the
location and source of the problem, you understand?
Leonedies: okay, question.
Russ: okay, it has been theorized in
some of our mass media and among some of the more
imaginative groups that discussions between our
planet and other races have already been taking
place and been going on for many years. How would
these talks were this to be true affect those?
Leonedies: not at all.
Leo in fact they would augment them.
Russ: ahhh, excellent. Okay.....
Leonedies: question. I see you have
none left, okay.
Russ: yeah, none left.
Leonedies: okay. Did I give you what
Leonedies: okay, now I go off and take
my nap nap time.
Russ: okay, thank you Leonedies.
Leonedies: for this purpose, the name
will be Daniel.
Russ: yes of course.
(Tia returns to make the transfer between speakers.)
(Tia says hi in Durondedunn.)
Russ: hi Tia.
Skip: hi darling.
Tia: hey, it's funny how he gets up
and you see him get up in his jammies and kind of
walks across or crawls across to the center of the
futon, sits down, crosses his legs and starts
sucking on his thumb. I thought that was funny. Yes?
Oh, next speaker.
Skip: you'll get there.
Tia: I hope so, I hope so.
(Tia growls her way out for Omal.)
(Omal speaks next from the
channeling futon on the base.)
Omal: greetings and felicitations.
Greetings Russ, greetings Skip, I see we are down to
just the two of you tonight.
Skip: yes sir.
Omal: I understand that the young lady
is participating in creating finance for herself and
the gentleman that was here last week is not here,
that is his choice.
Russ: well apparently he'll be here
next week theoretically.
Omal: theoretically. Okay, let us go
over Tia's political points. This is a discussion
that she has been having on the ongoing
developments. All Tia's comments are relevant and
useful. Her opinions need to be emphasized that they
are her opinions. Some of them I agree with, some of
them I have no comment but it is important to
remember and to emphasize that they are her
opinions. Her ability to understand and size up a
situation is very talented. The discussion that we
had about the Defcons, she worded that very well and
avoided a lot of the issues. Maybe Tia should have
given pointers to Monica Lewinsky and Bill Clinton.
Okay, let me add on to Leonedies' dissertation by
saying that it is necessary for the spiritual growth
of your planet to be able to host these discussions.
In hosting these discussions, it aids in the growth
of the learning process not only of your species and
other species but in species that are just
participating by observing. And in the learning
process, there is understanding of the growth that
is growing within all life forms that participate in
the levels that your planet has been through.
Ascension is part of the growth process in all
species. Whether or not that happens in the near
future or in the far distant future is irrelevant.
The main important thing to remember that growth is
happening. Whether or not it is slow is a moot
point. The understanding that growth is part of the
natural development is something that people on your
level tend to lose sight of when they are involved
in their daily lives but all species as a group know
that growth is a constant factor. Questions and
Skip: okay, I got one question. In the
last decade or maybe a little more, is this why
people have become....where more and more
people.......where a lot of people was to begin
with......more people have become aware of the
spiritual awakening as some people put it?
Omal: it is part of the development of
all beings that they realize as a group that they
are growing and the growth that happens is a natural
outcome of this realization. It in essence speeds up
the growth process.
Omal: continue, it sounded as if you
weren't quite finished with your question.
skip: no, no, it's just fine. That's
why they call it seeing the light or whatever
Skip: more and more people becoming
involved in it and more people becoming aware that
we're not the only beings in the universe.
Omal: I think it was stated by one of
your popular scientist authors that to assume that
you are the only species is not only shortsighted
Skip: and very vain.
Omal: and very vain. To see things as
you are the pinnacle, you are the top, there is no
better, you are the only is obviously very wrong.
Lifeforms take on many different shapes as we
discussed last week.
Omal: Karra mentioned that there were
a considerable number of different races in
different appearances, different incarnations. She
deliberately avoided giving the races various names.
I think Karra handled that very well.
Skip: I think that was very wise.
Omal: the fact that security at your
end was very, very lax is in this case a benefit but
it is necessary to remember that security, so that
we do not have problems that we had in the past, is
maintained. It is necessary to screen guests very
Omal: we do not want repeat
performances of what happened in the past. I think
you are all of aware of what happened just over 14
Omal: okay, more questions please.
Russ: okay, in working on this outline
that we're talking about.
Russ: a timeline let's say, he gave a
nice example of an estimated goal within a year,
year and a half of having the first group ready.
Russ: okay, to do so, there are couple
of different things that need to be done that would
Omal: that is correct.
Russ: so what we should do is set up a
few minor goals or things preliminary goals perhaps
that would........something we can set as benchmarks
that we could say this is a point that we wanted to
Omal: I think Leonedies laid down the
framework for you to do that in how he worded the
goal for a year to a year and a half. He said all
times are approximate.
Omal: if you were to follow his
example, then you will be able to work out
particular goals. His idea of having a group ready
in a year to a year and a half is a subjective point
from his point of view.
Omal: what you might want to do and it
is not for me to interfere, I'm trying to go with
what Leonedies said, is to set yourself minor goals
as you stated. Maybe by e-mailing
various individuals and groups and hopefully being
able setup a little discussion on when you are going
to start the discussions about the discussions,
discussions on the protocol for the discussions on
setting up the criteria for the main talks.
Omal: I noticed that Leonedies set it
up in three levels. A discussion on setting up for
the discussions on what will be talked and what will
be covered. I think the first setup is a setup for
bringing people together and to get them acquainted.
Russ: well something to think about is
coming up in the next month or two in I believe it's
in the Yucatán, there is a meeting, a conference
taking place between quite a few different channels
on the planet.
Russ: and a lot of it's been coming on
email right now a lot of it's Internet organized,
I'm wondering what part we could take in at least
electronically assisting in maybe getting the ball rolling
Omal: I cannot intervene, you will
have to come to your own decision on what you wish
Russ: okay, I'll talk it over
with the host.
Omal: that would be wise. Next
Russ: Skip, no? Okay, world wise with
the Defcon coming about and the meetings you had,
the talks, how is this going to affect the talks as
far as the scheduling goes?
Omal: not at all.
Omal: not at all unless you slide into
scenario C and then all bets are off.
Russ: oh, okay. That would be a bit of
Omal: yes, survival is a distraction.
Russ: okay. Tia didn't touch on this
but maybe you could help me with this?
Russ: scenario C, let's say the
impossible happens and they do decide to impeach
Clinton and Gore comes into the picture.
Omal: that is scenario B in Tia's
Omal: I cannot go into too much detail
as I'm waiting to hear back from Ashtar and Sananda
on whether we can proceed with the projections for
the next five years. They are still being discussed
Russ: all right, would it be wise have
a release form or a release, a pre-release at least
written up in a way that we could then just edit it
to the specific general release?
Omal: I do not fully understand what
you mean. In implication to what?
Russ: for example, if during the
conference you had with Tia concerning alerting
Omal: ah, I understand. You would wish
to have something typed up like communiqué blank,
due to circumstances involving blank, blank, blank,
it is necessary to inform you that we have increased
our level of readiness to Defcon blank.
Russ: that way at least we have a
chance you can go over the language, if it looks
good, we can fill in the blanks, make it work right
Omal: the importance for a pre-release
form is the fact that it has to be short, precise
and to the point. If it is long-winded, then it will
be taking away from the point. So a pre-release form
that is written, ready with the blanks to be filled
in is something that has to be thought of
Russ: okay. Well I'm thinking of
the.....we discussed the urgency of the situation
were it to happen where there is a bit of a time lag
between the information given, information typed up,
information given out.
Omal: the way that we have set it up
is that you yourselves can declare a Defcon
advancement. If you remember, what constitutes an
increase to Defcon three?
Russ: well it would be the key points
or the key events that are happening at the same
Omal: correct which would be?
Russ: which would be a civil
disobedience of some kind, a natural disaster of
financial, economic implications......
Russ: and a drop in the stock market
of a 150 points in a single day or by the end the
Omal: correct. That is Defcon three.
Omal: what is Defcon two?
Russ: Defcon two would be a drop in
the market of 300 points.
Russ: oh sorry. 250 points, two
natural disasters going on at the very same time, a
civil disobedience in three separate locations.
Omal: correct and let us not go to
Omal: but that is pretty horrific and
one can be skipped over for another depending on
Omal: but having that ability, you can
decide yourself exactly what a Defcon constitutes an
increase in a.......
(Omal finishes up from where he left
Omal: you yourselves can make the
announcement and the release when it is appropriate.
We can countermand by making a release if it is
deemed that your decision was inaccurate and
erroneous. You do not have all the information that
we have access to so by being able to set it up in
such a way that a communiqué could be followed by a
communiqué canceling the previous communiqué. For
example, let us go to a fictitious incident,
number one. Due to the drop in
the stock market of a 150 points and the forest
fires in the.........no, let us say the earthquake
in the state of Washington in the Metropolitan area
of Seattle and the riots that are currently going on
in new York, it is necessary to advise you that we
have increased our level of readiness to Defcon
three. Defcon three constitutes a warning of
imminent problems and you would explain what the
problems are. What I suggest is on your page, you
have within a "from the desk of Omal", an
explanation of this. When you send the email, you
send a link incorporated to the appropriate space.
Russ: okay. Karra and I are working on
something like this.
Omar yes, I know. Next question and
Russ: all right, the talks themselves
are ready in their form to begin. The timing is
going to be a part of our progression into learning.
It's all perfect, correct?
Omal: that is correct.
Russ: thank you.
Omal: live long, prosper, I'll be
Skip: thank you Omal.
(Tia returns in a boisterous mood.)
(Tia says hi in Durondedunn and
then starts humming.)
Russ: it's always tough to see how the
perfection of the moment is self-evident.
Russ: though we all agree to it, it's
not something you can just say......
Russ: but it's nice to hear it from
someone who knows.
(We hear a spanking sound.)
Tia: spank me.
Skip: what's the matter baby?
Tia: oh, I'm just in a playful mood.
Skip: oh, okay.
Tia: uh-huh. Okay, I suppose I better
put on the next speaker.
(Karra brings some semblance of
Russ: hi love.
Karra: hello Skip.
Skip: how you doing dear?
Karra: hey, how's it going?
Skip: good, I think.
Karra: that's good and how you doing
Russ: good sweetheart, a little bushed
Karra: yes, I know, I know.
Skip: Russ, engineer or healer?
Karra: I speak in a soft and soothing
tone. Okay, first of all an announcement. Not this
coming week but the following week I will be
unavailable for channeling session due to the fact
that I am going to Sirius for a week to attend a
couple of meetings and a formal function.
Russ: that should be fun.
Skip: sounds like a challenge.
Karra: yes it will be entertaining.
Actually I'm looking forward to the formal function,
I get an opportunity to dress up and be.......
Skip: beautiful, beautiful.
Karra: thank you.
Russ: David and Michael going?
(Our two twin sons.)
Karra: of course and Klarra.
Russ: get to see their home planet.
Karra: uh-huh. Also little sis will be
coming as well.
Russ: oh really?
Russ: it'll be kind of a dull
Skip: sweetheart, I got a question for
Skip: I have the natural ability of
taking people's pain away.
Skip: I have come to the conclusion or
Skip: have learned that I don't have
to ground myself afterwards.
Karra: you can ground yourself whilst
doing it or you can do it naturally without being
aware of it.
Skip: well maybe I'm doing it
naturally because I'm taking people's pain away
Skip: but I don't absorb it like I
Skip: at one time I was absorbing
their pain to where I would start getting sick.
Skip: I don't do that anymore.
Karra: so you figured out that you
have get rid of it immediately as you are doing it
Skip: evidently and not being aware of
Karra: well I think you are aware of
that you're doing it by the stance that you take
with your legs slightly apart and your hands out and
as you pull it in, it washes out.
Skip: okay, all right. I'm also going
to a spiritual, physical healer.
Skip: a lady that's taken a course in
this from another lady that says she can do all
this. I've never met the lady so I don't know
whether she's true or not true but this graduate
from her university, her college course or however
you want to say it seems to be doing me a lot of
good. I feel like I'm more balanced and more
satisfied with myself and what I'm doing.
Karra: that's why I thought it was
appropriate to give you that piece of information.
Skip: because even when this lady that
I go to was working on me, I built my own energy.
Skip: my little lightbulb running
Skip: I built my own energy so that it
would help and it is.
Skip: but I'm using her strength too
to help me do my own thing.
Karra: that's correct. See, even a
healer needs a healer from time to time.
Skip: uh-huh, uh-huh.
Karra: and by discussing the problems
and setting the channels and observing what she
does, helps you to subconsciously facilitate your
Skip: uh-huh, it does, it really did.
Now she's told me that I should quit healing, I said
"no I can't do that." She says "well you're taking
away the energy from people but you're not solving
the problem." I said "yeah, I solve the problem
Karra: you see, part of solving the
problem is discussing the problem.
Karra: by suggesting alternatives.
Karra: for example, your daughter, she
gets headaches and nauseated when she smokes.
Karra: she's allergic to nicotine.
Karra: so the solution is she quits
Karra: which I don't think she has,
has she? She tries.
Skip: this is kind of a back and forth
Skip: she'll quit for a while and then
she'll start again and then she'll quit for a while
but she found out that chocolate brings them
headaches on too and if she drinks coffee, it stops
Skip: so the caffeine has a
counteractive thing in it against the chocolate and
against the nicotine I guess.
Karra: well, chocolate has nicotine,
not nicotine, caffeine in it.
Skip: caffeine in it right.
Karra: so there's got a be something
more in the chocolate.
Skip: just the caffeine is killing the
headaches for her.
Karra: uh-huh because with chocolate,
it has the caffeine in it but it's also creating the
Skip: its got other in it besides
caffeine in chocolate, there's something else in
chocolate besides caffeine.
Karra: that's also in nicotine or in
the cigarette. I don't think it is the nicotine, I
think it is the chemicals added the cigarettes.
Karra: hmm...could be.
Skip: because all tobacco in
tailor-made cigarettes has got glycerin in them so
they won't go out. The tobacco's treated with
Skip: it's not detrimental to your
Karra: isn't that also in chocolate?
Skip: glycerin, let me think, I worked
for Hershey Chocolate....hmmm. There's milk...
Skip: condensed down so thick that it
looks like taffy. Chocolate's ground for 72 hours
and then pressed to take all the oil out of it and
then it's broken up and powdered out and sugar,
milk, trying to think........there is a preservative
added to it also.
Skip: now that could have the glycerin
in it, the preservative.
Karra: well it might not just be the
Skip: well you know a combination is
what I was trying to think of.
Karra: yeah, something that acts like
glycerin or it could be something like saltpeter
which is also in cigarettes.
Skip: okay, tobacco had glycerin,
tobacco and the paper is carbon when it's burned.
Karra: well it doesn't matter.
Skip: I'd have to research it a little
bit more but I just can't just call all of it
Karra: I understand. But you see, by
pointing out what is causing the headaches......
Karra: is part of the cure.
Skip: yeah because all chocolate's got
the same thing in it......
Skip: and it doesn't seem
to.........well maybe she's going to extremes with
her chocolate because she is a chocoholic. I got to
giggle but it's true.
Karra: how much chocolate does she eat
in a day?
Skip: she's gotten away from it but
she used to eat oh probably half a pound of
chocolate a day.
Karra: that might do it. Here's an
interesting little side note.
Skip: go ahead.
Karra: if your daughter wanted to get
a buzz going as I think you would call it........
Skip: yeah, go ahead.
Karra: just let her eat five pounds of
chocolate, it has the same effect as
smoking of your hand rolled, herbal cigarettes of
the recreational type.
Skip: oh, yeah, the wacky tobaccee?
Karra uh-huh, marijuana.
Skip: yeah, that's what we call it is
Karra: uh-huh. Five pounds of
chocolate will have the same effect as one joint.
Skip: well yeah, because isn't there
cocoa in chocolate? Isn't there....yeah, coke's in
Russ: yeah but it's been processed mostly out
Skip: yeah but it's still got a
residue in there.
Russ: a little bit.
Karra: oh it's very, very, very
Skip: years ago, it had heavy coke in
Russ: Coca-Cola did.
Skip: yeah, Coca-Cola was real bad for
that. Anyhow, thank you.
Karra: no problem at all.
Skip: I appreciate the little tidbit
that you gave me too.
Karra: yes okay, I have to depart.
Skip: thank you.
Russ: bye bye Karra.
Karra: okay, catch later Skip.
Karra: see later hon, missing you.
Russ: I'll miss you too babe.
Karra: no, missing you.
Skip: oh Russ, which one is the
Skip: Kiri? Okay, because I've got to
ask her a question.
(Tia transitions between sisters.)
(Tia says hi in Durondedunn.)
Russ: hi Tia.
Skip: hi sweetie.
Tia: hey, how's it going?
Skip: well, we're getting some answers
Skip: getting answers to our
questions, let's put it that way.
Russ: Tia, I got a slight problem, I
need to go crash out for a while. I can't stay for
Kiri and the rest of this.
Tia: well Kiri's about to come on
Tia: okay and besides, it's getting
close to the end of the tape.
Russ: yeah, I'm dragging here.
Skip: I noticed you are, yeah. Kiri's
the engineer? Okay.
(Kiri starts by explaining Tia's
Russ: hey hon.
Skip: hello darlin'.
Kiri: okay, explanation. Tia's
boisterousness is fluffy. When Tia is boisterous,
she is fluffy.
Skip: okay baby.
Kiri: because the tips of her hair
start to stand up.
Skip: okay darlin'.
Kiri: it goes like this........like a
cat gets fluffy when it's all playful, Tia gets a
little bit fluffy on her hair when she's playful so
she becomes fluffy!!!
Skip: okay darlin'. I got a question
to ask you.
Kiri: uh-huh no, I'm not going to tell
you how to build a warp core engine and don't ask my
Skip: okay no, nevermind. No, no, no
this is completely......no, I ain't going to do that
to you. You and I were friends.....
(In a previous past life together.)
Skip: okay. Was I ever in combat when
me and you were friends?
Kiri: indirectly, yes.
Skip: no hand-to-hand bit?
Kiri: not that I'm aware of however I
was not always around when you were off doing your
Skip: okay all right.
Kiri: all's I was was a just regular
Kiri: I can't tell you more on what
Skip: no problem, I just thought maybe
you might be able to enlighten me on a couple of
things that's happened to me down here.
Kiri: all's I can tell you is there
are times in that past life where you weren't in and
then you would reappear and then you would disappear
and then reappear.
Skip: okay, all right all right. All
right because the lady said she took a bit of metal
out of my ribs that looked like the
end of the battle ax and she also took three chunks
of steel out of my left shoulder that looked like
part of a sword.
Kiri: uh-huh. But then.....
Skip: from previous times.
Kiri: yeah but then shards of metal
can look like that from engines and so on.......
Skip: true, true.
Kiri: if you don't know what you're
Skip: well true enough, it could have
been from the explosion too.
Kiri: what explosion?
Skip: I don't know darling, I don't
know what you're talking about.
Kiri: uh-huh. You remember that we
said that your past lives would come to you in bits
Kiri: uh-huh, things like that.
Skip: well you told me it was my
Skip: but I was still there.
Kiri: uh-huh, all's that I know is
from what I heard, it's part of the knowing......
Skip: I was there.
Kiri: uh-huh, but where is there?
Skip: right in the middle of it from
what I can comprehend or real close to the middle of
Skip: but that's.....let it go now.
Kiri: I was about to say, I could
start pushing but it wouldn't be appropriate for me
to do that.
Skip: no, no, no don't do that. I just
thought maybe that you could enlighten me on this
other and evidently it's....I picked it up from that
Kiri: uh-huh, you're reading into it
and it's triggering things which is good. Okay, got
a quick question for sleepyhead. Let me see, what
would be a good nickname, alfalfa.
Russ: (groans.) what?
Kiri: what was that technical problem
that you were working on?
Russ: which one?
Kiri: you were......according to big
sis, who's going to get hit with a watermelon if
she's not careful, you got a little frustrated
trying to explain a technical problem with I think
it was a hardware problem?
Russ: technical problem with a
Kiri: she wasn't too clear on it, she
got frustrated with you for getting frustrated and
when she does that she leaks on her I-mode which I
can pick up on.
Russ: oh no, there was a part where
one of the workers there left a video card out of
the computer I had to take back.......
(From a local computer store we had shopped out the
I had to go back and get the video card and
put that in.
Kiri: that could of been it.
Russ: that's probably it. It's the
only bit of hardware I've been working on lately.
Kiri: uh-huh, yeah she got frustrated
with you getting frustrated and knowing better.
Russ: no, I just look like stupid
Kiri: well, the joys of being a boss.
Russ: oh yeah.
Skip: or a businessman.
Kiri: oh yes, I know all about
business, I know all about supply and demand.
Skip: I'm going to try to start
Kiri: oh cool.
Skip: yeah, security for people's
Kiri: security, security, isn't that
what Mark does?
Skip: Mark does personal people
Skip: okay? What I'm looking at is
mechanical or technical security for people's homes
when they're away.
Kiri: kind of like a defense field?
Skip: yeah, more or less yes. Yeah,
that would be in your dimension yes definitely.
Skip: in our dimension we don't have
that particular capability so we have to secure the
doors, windows and whatever we can secure.
Kiri: talking of defense, our
semi-resident oath keeper will be here next week.
Skip: who now?
Kiri: the semi-resident captain of the
Skip: oh well good, I'd love to talk
to her again.
Kiri: the defense force, uh-huh.
Skip: she's a sweetheart.
Skip: I don't know how much she's
changed since she became captain but.....
Kiri: what do you think Russ?
Russ: not that much.
Skip: oh, okay all right. I'd love to
talk to her again.
Kiri: I think she's little more softer
spoken and doesn't rush into things.
Skip: well responsibility does that to
Kiri: it's been such a long time since
I've been irresponsible.
Kiri: don't smirk Russ, it doesn't
Russ: oh I'm not.
Skip: we're all that way at one time
or another though.
Kiri: uh-huh but my life doesn't count
on me being serious all the time.
Skip: well neither does mine.
Kiri: no and I think.....
Skip: and guess what darling? I
Skip: thank you baby.
Kiri: (Sings) congratulations,
Skip: got retired today. No what I had
done is I retired from a full-time, steady
Skip: now I'm going to go in business
Kiri: isn't that a contradiction?
Skip: no, I'm not working for somebody
else, I'm working for me.
Kiri: what I mean is, if you're
retired, you're not meant to work but going into
business for yourself means that you're
going to work harder and more hours than you did
Skip: no, not really because I'm going
to do this at my speed, not at somebody telling me I
have to be at work at 6 o'clock in the morning and
you can't go home until 4:30 at night, okay?
Kiri: Beanpole, go to bed.
Russ: I am going to bed.
Skip: all right. Good night Russ,
we'll see you tomorrow.
Kiri: how easy to coerce and
Skip: you got it, especially when he
feels like that.
Kiri: especially in that state.
Skip: yeah but darling, no this
security thing is, I'm going to try to give people
what they need to secure their homes......
Skip: on a free evaluation.
Kiri: well that's a good idea.
Skip: and then if they want me to
install the locks and so on and so forth and furnish
the equipment, naturally I'm going to charge them by
the hour plus material.
Kiri: oh of course.
Skip: and if it gets to the point
where somebody wants an alarm system installed.
Skip: the new technology that's come
up here just last couple of years, you don't have to
wire people's homes anymore.
Skip: they got little boxes that
fasten on the windows and the doors and so on and so
forth and you got a central alarm system and they're
all radio transmitted.
Skip: so you don't have to install
wiring so the kind of work that I'm looking at or
business per se......
Skip: is going to be a very laid back
Kiri: yeah now what you can do is, I
just had a little idea.
Skip: go ahead.
Kiri: is that if they have a home
Kiri: and have what is a infrared linking
system, you could probably put software and
programming inside the computer that can be
activated by a touch panel outside let's say a
simple combination switches it off, a simple
combination switches it on so that when they come to
the house they type in their combination, it goes to
the computer and it switches it off.
Kiri: when they leave, they do the
same thing and it switches on. Now.........
Skip: okay, one question before you go
any further, I'm sorry about interrupting you but do
you have to leave your computer on all the time to
Skip: okay, all right, that's the
question I had. Go ahead.
Kiri: uh-huh, most people do but if an
alarm is activated, it sends a message to the
computer and the computer dials the police
department and informs the police department that
there is a break-in going on at a particular
Skip: okay now, in that particular
instance, do you have say a time lag between the
time that the seal is broken and time to call the
police department and let them know that there isn't
a break-in? In other words, say accidentally..
Kiri: somebody breaks a window
Skip: yes, yes, that's right.
Kiri: uh-huh, well if there was a
person there at the house, they would be able to
type in their passcode in on the main keyboard and
that would cancel the alarm.
Skip: oh okay, all right I gotcha, I
gotcha but what I was really running through my mind
is say okay, I'll use myself for an instance......
Skip: okay I have got this alarm
system in my house and I forget about it, unlock the
door and walk in.
Skip: is there a time lag between me
walking in and being able to punch in on the
Kiri: I think that there would be the
ability to do that yes.
Skip: I'd say about 30 seconds?
Skip: or maybe a minute at the most?
Skip: yeah, it'd have to be set up
like that because a lot of people forget.
Skip: and even the children.
Skip: the kids come in from school,
maybe early and mom ain't home and she's punched in
Skip: the kids open the door and walk
in. They don't even think about that code, in fact
they don't even think about calling it in.
Skip: yeah that'd be the only problem
with them about hooking up with the computer. Well
it's the same thing with the silent alarm that's
hooked to the police station.........
Skip: you have that same problem.
Kiri: yeah. Yeah and you have probably
something like if the person had speakers at their
computer, as soon as the alarm was set off after
let's say 30 seconds or a minute, or as soon as the
door or security is breached, an alarm would go off
and say "warning, warning.."
Skip: yeah, yeah I gotcha, yeah.
Kiri: "alarm system is now activated,
you have 30 seconds to deactivate the alarm."
Skip: uh-huh, that would be, that
would be appropriate.
Skip: yeah that would even tell the
Kiri: yeah. Something like a speaker
right next door.......right next to the door.
Kiri: that would say something like
Kiri: which means that the convict
would have 30 seconds to locate the computer and
shut it down and find the switch to switch it off.
Kiri: I don't think most criminals
would be able to do that.
Skip: uh-uh, because they wouldn't
know where it would be located in the house.
Kiri: uh-huh. So you see?
Kiri: and if it's not in the living
room, it's in an office somewhere.
Skip: it would take them more than 30
seconds to find it.
Kiri: uh-huh, to switch off the
computer, even if the key panel is easily accessible
right next to the door.
Kiri: they would have to go "okay,
where's the computer? Umm, Umm, umm."
Skip: yeah right, you're correct.
Skip: you're correct. Anyhow, alarm
systems, I probably won't fool with them because
there's so many alarm system companies out there
that they can probably do it at a better price than
Skip: you know what I'm saying.
Kiri: oh yeah, probably.
Skip: but the free evaluation, the
people can do it themselves or I can do it for them
which would be sticks in the back of their sliders.
Skip: plus locks on them so somebody
can't pick them up and lift them out.
Skip: because a lot of the sliding
glass doors that they designed in this country, the
sliding part is on the outside.
Skip: of the door.
Skip: that means you can pick them up
and lift them out of the track.
Kiri: yeah. There is a new design that
has come out that has the sliding door, I believe it
is on the outside and the reason that it's on the
outside is because when the wind blows, and if it's
on the inside.
Kiri: right? The door moves and
there's a draft created.
Skip: yes there is.
Kiri: but if it's on the outside.
Skip: yeah it pushes against the other
door and it stops the draft.
Skip: but what we can do in that
particular instance is drill through the stationary
Skip: and stick a deadbolt through it.
Kiri: yeah. Whereas this one I think
is put on back to front.
Skip: the slider's on the inside.
Skip: the same as mine are.
Skip: and you can still do that.
Skip: you can still drill a hole
through the bottom of the door into the stationary
panel and put a deadbolt in it.
Skip: that way, nobody can pick the
Kiri: uh-huh, because they could pick
the door up here.
Skip: you can pick the door up, even
these ones on the inside.
Skip: you can stick a bar underneath
of them, pick them up and flip them over the track
on the inside of the house and then walk right in.
Kiri: uh-huh. Yes with the alarm
system, I mean there's so much software that you
could do. The thing would be that if you
were somebody was to say, "I want you to do an
alarm", maybe have somebody that you work with that
Skip: uh-huh or get myself in contact
with an alarm company.
Kiri: uh-huh and they give you a
Skip: yes, yes, I could do it that
Skip: and in fact that might be a good
idea, I like that.
Kiri: you're welcome.
Skip: yes, thank you very much.
Kiri: you're very welcome. Okay, looks
like the tape's almost over.
Skip: yes it is.
Skip: while we shut this session down,
the host is gone, or the semi-host or
Kiri: one of the....
Kiri: and the other host is up here.
Kiri: and thank you for assisting him
with his vehicle problem, I think you might
Kiri: I think it might be the timing
Skip: yeah. That's the first thing
that crossed my mind, the way it's clicking because
if it was a valve.....
Kiri: uh-huh, you would hear it up
higher and you would be able to feel it in the
Skip: well, well not only that, but
your engine would run rough.
Skip: because that valve would be bad.
Kiri: yeah and that would also be a
sucking sound as well.
Skip: yes and if it was a piston.
Kiri: uh-huh, there would be a
knocking sound very similar however there would be a
clunk at the end of the knock.
Skip: you got it. So, the only other
thing that I can come up with is possibly the timing
chain has gotten loose enough that it's banging
against the case when you rev it up because that
throws a loop in your chain when you rev it up.
Kiri: uh-huh but it also continues
when the engine's running.
Skip: well true but when it's running
at idle speed.......
Skip: you're not throwing that loop.
Kiri: yeah. But as the engine's
running, the knock, knock, knock is still
there I think.
Skip: not at idle.
Kiri: no not at idle but as soon
Skip: just at high-speed.
Kiri: yes soon as you.....
Skip: it's just like a tire, a tire's
not round when you're running down the road.
Skip: it's got a high spot in it.
Skip: from it throwing. The chain does
the same thing it throws a high spot in the chain.
Kiri: of course it does, that's quite
Skip: yeah, throws a high spot in that
chain and that high spot's hitting the case.
Skip: well every time it
hits the case, it bangs down and then it comes up
and hits again.
Skip: so it's throwing that chain is
what it's doing.
Kiri: so the chain is possibly
Skip: over the period of time, I don't
know how many miles is on that little automobile but
probably quite a few but there is a tightener on the
inside of the case that can be loosened, pushed up
against the chain and make it run tighter. So
possibly, from the chain stretching, it's stretched
just enough to hit the case and we would tighten it
up with the tightener. That may be all's that's
wrong with it.
Skip: and by it banging the case, it's
broke the gasket or maybe the case itself....
Skip: I might
have to put a new case on it.
Skip: but I think that will solve
Kiri: I do appreciate you assisting.
Skip: that's my stock in trade
Kiri: yeah, assistance.
Skip: uh-huh okay.
Kiri: okay. Let me quickly put on.....
Skip: thank you for the information, I
Kiri: uh-huh. I noticed that Leonedies
was sucking on his thumb as well as sucking on
Mark's thumb down there whilst he's talking,
I thought that was funny.
Skip: yeah, he was.
Kiri: and his choice in words, nap
Kiri: even though he's an eighth
dimensional being in a sixth dimensional body he can
be very young.
Skip: yeah. Immature darling,
Kiri: well not immature, he's very
mature for his tender age but I think youthful would
be a better word.
Skip: there you go, that'll work. Well
thank you again.
Kiri: no problem and thank you.
Skip: and we'll probably see you next
Kiri: and the week after I will not be
Skip: yeah, I understand. Bye babe.
(Tia wraps things up.)
(Tia says hi in Durondedunn.)
Skip: hi sweetheart.
Skip: well, our other, our other
resident kind of goofed out on us.
Tia: I think he's.....
Skip: he was, he was just beat, he had
to get to sleep.
Skip: he was just bushed.
Tia: yes, he did look.....his aura was
Skip: yeah he was, he was just
completely beat out. He's been putting in some long
Tia: oh yes he has. Been making money
Skip: yes he is.
Skip: he's doing well.
Tia: okay well I think.......
Skip: yeah it's getting on to that
Tia: it's getting close to 11.
Skip: yeah it's...
Tia: what is the chronometer time?
Skip: let me put my glasses on so I
can see it. Yeah it's five till.
Tia: yeah so the tape should be pretty
close to being over anyway.
Skip: yes it is.
Tia: okay, let's call it a wrap.
Tia: don't worry about shutting it
off, let it use up so that it's not dead space.
Skip: okay. But anyhow, thank you for
Tia: oh thank you.
Skip: I appreciate it.
Tia: well I try to do my best as a
ring mistress. Next time I will bring my whip and
Skip: no, please don't do that.
Tia: no that's lion tamers
isn't it? Okay, I will wear my big hat,
tall hat and my red jacket with the tails and my
Skip: well I'll go for that, that's
Skip: oh boy.
(Tia says bye in Durondedunn.)
(We get to hear Mark's real
voice as he returns from the base.)
Mark: I think one of my smoother
landings. (Yawns) I think I'm getting better at my
Skip: you think you are huh, you're
not skidding in so bad?
Mark: I just had enough time to watch
a shooting star. God, I guess Russ took into
Skip: yeah he just, he just, poor
baby. He was just laying here, he just couldn't keep
his eyes open anymore.
Mark: oh was......were they being that
(Joking as only Mark can.)
Skip: no, uh-huh, it was just that he
was that tired.
Mark: oh really?
Skip: yeah, he was just, he was just
Skip: he's, he's just totaled because
he's been putting in some god-awful hours.
Mark: oh God yeah he has. Kind of
worries me a little bit but....
Skip: well now he's not working two
jobs now, he's only working one.
Skip: so.....he's......I think, now
this is just my personal opinion, but I think that
his tiredness is just by being awake so long.
Skip: because he's enjoying what he's
Mark: oh yeah.
Skip: and by enjoying your job, it
doesn't seem like a job.
Mark: no, no.
Skip: you know what I'm talking about
Mark: oh yeah, yeah.
Skip: because that's why I've stayed
in maintenance all my life because I've always
enjoyed the challenge.
Mark: yeah, I'm going to go and grab
Skip: oh golly, we can get up out of
Mark: okay. Oh, here they are.
Skip: oh, okay.
Mark: we can head up the stairs.
Skip: yeah. Getting a little stiff
sitting still so long.
Skip: that's not my cup of tea is it?
(The door closes as both walk out.)
THE TAPE RUNS OUT
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