DEFCON DEFINED 07/30/98
Archivist Notes: This podcast was highlighted
by two things that almost never happened in the
channeling sessions. I had to excuse myself before the
end due to exhaustion which led to the happy accident
where the tape was left running past the last speaker.
Because of that, we have one of the rare instances
that we get to hear Mark's real voice as he comes back
from visiting the base. It's with fond memories that I
am once more treated to hearing my dear friend and
On that note then is Tia borrowing that voice
to discuss the GM strike at the time, a trip down
memory lane to the Monica Lewinsky scandal and how one
of her and Mark's children got sick over eating a dead
mouse. Leonedies comes on after her to go over the
preliminary groundwork for the talks between the
various races involved with the planet and why it was
our planet that was chosen to host the talks. Omal
follows him to finish up side one with a strong
reminder that growth is taking place all around us and
is part of the natural process. We also categorize the
various Defcon levels relating to the possible
scenarios leading to an economic and societal
Karra gets side two started by letting us
know she will be away for the upcoming week for a
formal function on Sirius and then has an excellent
discourse on the ingredients of chocolate and
cigarettes. Kiri goes next explaining how Tia came to
get her nickname but only gets a short way before I
head for bed. Her and Skip go on without me about the
technical aspects of home security and car engines.
Side two ends with Mark returning from the sixth
dimension and going over the personal exhaustion I had
been experiencing at the time.
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(The Fluffy One gets us started.)
Russ: oh fluffy one.
(Tia says something in Durondedunn with a vengeance.)
Skip: fluffy one.
Russ: oh Miss Fluffy.
Skip: how come you're fluffy tonight?
Tia: it's a Kiri expression.
Tia: okay, down to business, down to business. Okay, where
shall I start? What do you want me to start? Okay.......
Russ: I can help start a few things.
Tia: okay, what do you want to start?
Russ: well, for example, our Defcon meetings that you had
Russ: well we've got a strike settlement.
Tia: we're all set up....
Russ: we're all set up.
Tia: however, what's been going on that got us all rattled
and everything is the fact that our estimates are $2 billion
dollars in loss to GM due to this strike, the fact that it
is unlawful, unlawful and illegal, so that is civil
Russ: can't be illegal.
Tia: it is illegal.
Russ: what's the statutes under which it is illegal though?
Tia: the union contract states that they can only deal with
local issues or safety infractions or and the third one was
speeding up the line to increase productivity and thus being
a safety issue. None of these were the reason for them going
out on strike.
Russ: was it pay?
Tia: nope, well partly, partly also the fact that GM wanted
to lay off and modernize and improve the plant and lay off
approximately 50,000 workers overall I think. I could be
wrong on the number throughout the whole entire company. And
to increase and modernize the plants at Flint which aren't
in any of the three criteria. So, our decision on looking at
the legal statutes and everything is that it was an illegal
strike. I could go into more detail but I'm not going to.
That was one of the reasons why we had our Defcon meetings.
Also the fact that the stock market has dropped over 400
points in just over a week and a half. Again, the reason why
we didn't step up the level is because it did not meet any
of our criteria of a drop of a 150 points at the end of the
day. There was a time where we had a meeting that was an
emergency, well not an emergency meeting but I was summoned
to Omal's office where the Dow had actually dropped 211
points. In the meeting we discussed various things which I
can't go over but, that was one of the things that was
looked upon. As I was in a meeting at the time I also had my
little ear device in so I could hear what the stock market
was doing and I decided against Omal that we should not step
up and make a announcement. This was done because I felt
that the market was going to recover as it was dropping so
rapidly that my feeling was that investors would come in and
bargain hunt which they did. That day it ended down 94
points. Also, a natural disaster which has been discussed
much lately is the fact that 89 individuals have died in
Texas due to the heat, there is close to a half a billion
dollars in loss through electricity losses and fiscal
losses, cattle and so on due to the heat. It is pushing up
the prices of food throughout the United States of America,
primarily beef prices and chicken prices. So looking at
that, it was "okay", but again that did not quite meet the
criteria necessary. Everything was real border point when we
made our decisions. Fortunately, two of the factors, the
Flint plant's problems kind of aided in being settled helped
us to step down, to come down from our readiness point.
Russ: hmmm, pretty close though huh?
Tia: uh-huh. So we were pretty ready to release a communiqué
but we decided against it. You see, they have to meet
definitely and clearly the various criteria.
Tia: now, let us move along a little bit to my pet subject,
(Skip starts to snigger.)
Tia: uh-huh, what?
Skip: go ahead darling, I'm just listening.
Tia: okay, first of all, has the president perjured himself?
So far everything is rumored. She is going to say yes, they
did have sex. They said, she hasn't said yet, she hasn't
said anything. So whether or not he has perjured himself is
still up in the air. Now, let us assume that he didn't. Let
us also assume that she is going to say that nothing
happened etc. etc.. This basically takes the sting out of
impeachment processes which in my opinion is good due to the
fact that if he is impeached, Al Gore would become president
and things will not go as well as they should because people
will not trust anybody to do with President Clinton. Now, if
she says that they did and he has committed perjury, then
that is a felony but it is not something that would be
desirable for an impeachment. With the way things are going,
the proceedings for the trial for perjury would more than
likely take place after he's out of the presidency. Also,
the investigations into campaign finance and selling or
letting U.S. companies give technology to the Chinese, is
also something that is very serious and an impeachable
offense. However, again if he is impeached then the
government is hamstrung, he becomes a laughingstock, the
U.S. becomes a laughingstock. So again I think they're not
going to impeach him as much as it would be the appropriate
thing to do. However, if they do impeach him, the correct
thing for him to do would be to stand down. However, I don't
think he would. He would want to fight this out tooth and
nail because he is so used to getting what he wants and
people believing what he says. Whether or not it is in truth
or not is besides the point, he is used to getting his way.
Skip: well isn't this an election year?
Tia: yes, not for him though. It's just midterm elections
for the Senate and the House.
Skip: oh, is it 2000 when it's an election year for him?
Tia: uh-huh and he won't get reelected because he can't run.
Skip: well it isn't that far away.
Tia: no, exactly.
Skip: and I don't think in my personal opinion, I don't
think they'll start impeachment proceedings because he's
only got a year and five months to go.
Tia: that's right.
Skip: I don't think they'll impeach him my darling, I really
don't. I don't even think they'll even start the proceedings
because it takes longer than that.
Tia: that's my point exactly. You see the thing is that
everything has been done deliberately delay, delay, delay,
Skip: they're still delaying.
Skip: and if it runs what, two months, three months, four
months, six months? They ain't going to start impeachment
proceedings, it would cost too much money.
Tia: that's right. If they were to impeach him, they would
have to have a majority, a single majority, that's just one
more person over the 50% to start the process. They would
have to have 51% to start the process.
Tia: they can do that right now if they wanted.
Skip: yeah they could.
Tia: uh-huh, why haven't they?
Tia: no. The fact that the longer this drags out, the better
the Republicans look. It's all politically oriented. I
personally don't like him because he's lied, he's cheated,
he's manipulated, he's conspired, conspiracy. By looking at
the talking points, a lot of this is in legalese terms. Now
Tripp under oath has said that she did not supply
Lewinsky with any advice on how to proceed, she just
recorded. Some of her talking points and talking points are
a legal term, some of her talking points......Monica
Lewinsky's, are written purely in legalese jargon. She
doesn't know that much law to be able to write in legalese
Skip: yeah, I can believe that.
Tia: now if...
Skip: because she's just a secretary, she's not.....
Tia: she was just an intern.
Tia: if the president talked with her and suggested, that's
Tia: but it's a gray area of obstruction.
Russ: not really, because of the fact that she's going to
testify that he told her........or they discussed how to
cover up the fact that they had had sex.
Tia: uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, that is
clear conspiracy and I think he's smart enough to know that.
Tia: how he would go about it would be giving hints on other
cases on how to avoid the issue. Avoiding the issue can be
done many, many different ways on explaining how to avoid
the issue. So even though he is not telling her directly to
lie, he he is telling her indirectly how to avoid an issue.
There's the words right there, how to avoid the issue. That
is not lying, that is changing the subject, that is
sidestepping, that is avoiding the issue. That is not lying,
that is not perjury but it is still manipulation and
Skip: yeah but like you said honey, it's a very gray area
and how do you prove something like that?
Skip: it's so, so difficult, it'd be almost impossible to
prove something like that.
Russ: well, you could prove it only because it's her word
against his. She's got a case of blanket immunity against
Russ: and so it doesn't hurt her to say anything she wants
Skip: to a point.
Tia: she cannot lie.
Skip: that's perjury, she won't get immunity from perjury.
Tia: that's right. If she's lies with immunity right? The
immunity is revoked if they think she is lying.
Russ: they think she's lying or proves she's lying?
Skip: proves she's lying.
Tia: prove or even think.......
Skip: no, they can't pull it on a thought.
Tia: well if there is the evidence that she is not being
truthful, even if she is being truthful and it appears that
she is not, then they can revoke it. So for her, she has to
be as honest as possible.
Tia: you see the problem?
Tia: now if they get the correct information, how do they
they request an impeachment hearing? No, I don't think
so toward what I mentioned earlier.
Skip: sidestep the issue.
Tia: well what they do is they wait until he's out of office
and then slap him with three felony charges. Oh dear, he
goes away for life. I don't think they will do that.
Skip: no, they ain't even going to do that.
Tia: they will definitely if the outcome is negative, they
will definitely, definitely go ahead and press charges.
Maybe one, maybe two offenses. His ability to ever hold
office ever again in any capacity is revoked.
Skip: down the drain.
Russ: he would be pardoned and by whoever the sitting
Tia: maybe, maybe not, depends on how it serves them. If,
let us say it is Al Gore and he pardons him, it looks bad
Russ: well it's like Ford.
Tia: uh-huh, did Ford get reelected?
Skip: nope. Well look at the present administration.
Tia: it is even more corrupt than the Nixon administration.
Skip: I think that's why I don't get involved in it because
it's just so much garbage.
Tia: actually it's very entertaining picking on the threads
and pulling and watching.
Skip: yeah but it's still garbage.
Skip: I can go outside and dig in my garbage cans and get
better stuff than what's in politics.
Tia: uh-huh but it's entertaining to watch what is actually
said in these hearings and what is reported to be said.
Skip: well you're an unprejudiced observer also.
Tia: umm, I've got to admit that I am prejudiced, I do not
like Bill Clinton.
Skip: well yeah but you're not involved in it.
Skip: per se like we are.
Tia: no true, true.
Skip: okay? That's why I say you're an uninterested
Tia: that's right. Actually I find it very, very
fascinating. Okay, any questions?
Skip: not in politics.
Russ: I haven't any.
Skip: what do you got going?
Russ: oh we got Leonedies coming out in a little while.
Skip: oh the short one huh?
Russ: he's pretty short.
Tia: yeah, it's nice to actually be one of the tallest
people when all the children are around.
Skip: oh golly.
Tia: oh we found out what was up, what was wrong with
Minerva's upset stomach. (One of Tia and Mark's children,
Skip: oh yeah?
Tia: uh-huh. She got given a gift by one of the cats. One of
the cats brought her a mouse, dead mouse.
Skip: oh no.
Tia: uh-huh. Instead of cleaning it properly, she just
gutted it, took off most of its fur, most of its fur. Took
off its head and chowed it down which is okay but she forgot
to wash the claws.
Skip: oh golly.
Tia: so she got an upset stomach, she's better now.
Skip: she's better okay?
Skip: all right.
Russ: that's good to hear.
Tia: uh-huh and she got a lesson on preparing food properly.
But it was a gift that she accepted and instead of doing the
proper thing of washing and cleaning and saving it for later
on, she thought it would make a nice snack.
Skip: it did.
Skip: but it upset her stomach too.
Tia: yeah. Put it this way, she was going through the eye of
a needle. When she wasn't upchucking, she was going through
the eye of a needle.
Skip: oh boy.
Tia: uh-huh. Giving her lots to drink to keep the
electrolytes and everything up.
Skip: poor baby.
Russ: that is a drag.
Tia: uh-huh. But her sisters learned from it.
Skip: yeah, I'll bet you all of them did.
Tia: oh yeah. A question tonight at the dinner table was,
"Is everything washed?"
Tia: "Is everything sterile?"
Skip: I'll bet.
Tia: uh-huh. Okay, I better put on our guest speaker.
Russ: all righty.
Skip: go ahead.
(Leonedies adds his knowledge to the
greetings and felicitations and welcome. Greetings Skip,
greetings Russ and why was she giggling at me? I don't know.
Okay, let me start by saying that it is an honor and a
pleasure to be able to communicate through the medium of the
Internet to relay the information necessary for the
spiritual growth and understanding of your planet. My
participation in the past and the present is all calculated
to be able to achieve a harmonic uplifting on the spiritual
level to achieve an ascending advancement for all parties
involved. The challenge that I gave at the start of this
dissertation, you will insert it at the top is part of the
necessary teaching tools that have been laid out. Even
though my part in this discussion is purely as an adviser
and observer, it is necessary for me from time-to-time to
intervene to be able to facilitate and expedite the dialogue
necessary for the communication. In achieving the groundwork
set up for these dialogues to be able to increase the
vibrational frequency of all beings involved in these
discussions, it is necessary to motivate. If I was to sit
and just be an independent, unbiased observer, then my time
involved would expire before the necessary levels and
achievements have been set forth. In intervening and in your
terminology, a swift kick in the heiny, is to speed up and
put back on course these talks that I so dearly would like
to see happen in my period involved however, if it is not to
happen within my time that I have chosen to be involved, I
will leave behind the necessary groundwork and framework for
it to continue. Questions.
Russ: in the groundwork that has been laid to this point,
how much more of it do we have left to go?
Leonedies: quite a lot. This is just the beginning, the
beginning starts with but a single breath, you inhale it is
started. Much has already been done. Much, much more remains
to be done. Question.
Russ: okay, well the time schedule is looking much better
Russ: things are clicking in as far as schedules and being
able to find the time necessary to do so and the
implementation of it now is that we need to work out a
schedule I think that we can maintain. Say for example, we
need to accomplish this by this date, that by that date and
we need to work out an outline I think of where we'd like to
be and if not, we can kind of see where we are and how to
Leonedies: setting deadlines and dates is not appropriate
for this kind of discussion due to the fact that by setting
a deadline, and if the deadline is not met due to
circumstances beyond your control, then you look bad. If we
put approximate deadlines, let us say that the first group
should be assembled within a year, first group to start the
preliminary discussions on what will be discussed at the
discussions for the talks on the setup and the language,
then that is acceptable. What I was saying, instead of a
year, is a year to a year and a half for the first core
group to form to be able to get ready to talk and discuss
what will be discussed at the discussions prior to the main
Russ: okay, well would you like to work with me and Karra
and any other interested individuals about setting up
approximate schedules or we should just leave it up to....
Leonedies: I will lay down the groundwork, I will talk with
Mme. ambassador and yourself and the host and we will lay
out the groundwork necessary for a timeline. All times will
Russ: of course.
Leonedies: good. I will try to schedule time in between my
learning times and my nap nap times.
Russ: okay, that'll work. Mostly we will be able to get an
idea of, like a good idea of by doing this.......setting up
a procedures that will assist us going into the talks more.
Leonedies: procedure is an inaccurate word, protocols.
Russ: protocols, organization...........we need to organize
a little bit better......
Russ: the time spent and that the things that are done
within that time to make it more productive or productive as
far as achievements or effort put out toward achievement.
Leonedies: is the term we as in you and myself or we as in a
basic overall outlook?
Russ: basic overall outlook.
Leonedies: okay, that is something that you're going to have
to be careful about. By saying we, you're implying yourself,
you're implying Skip, you are implying the host, you're
implying us up here and myself. So that is part of the
language that you have to learn to understand.
Russ: right, okay.
Leonedies: let me give you a quick coaching lesson in
communicating in a political or a politically motivated
environment. I will make a statement. It is necessary for
parties involved to lay a groundwork........no, let me
restart. It is necessary for the host organization that is
hosting these upcoming discussions to lay out a framework
which is appropriate for all parties if permissible. You see
I have substituted a few key words, we meaning everybody,
the host hosting has been substituted.
Russ: there is no host.
Leonedies: there is a host.
Russ: oh, there is a host?
Leonedies: yes, your planet is hosting it......
Leonedies: through its medium of the Internet. See, it is
worded very carefully.
Leonedies: you have to think about what is said, you do not
assume what is said is what is meant.
Leonedies: your intestinal track is bubbling.
Skip: yeah, I filled up.
Leonedies: ahhh. Question.
Russ: by the world hosting itself, we're dealing with all
the groups involved with the world.
Russ: now many other worlds besides this as we've talked
before will be affected by these talks.
Russ: at a later point will they be able to be involved in
the talks with ours?
Leonedies: well that is the general idea that they will be
involved from the get-go. You see the reason why you were
selected to be the hosting planet is due to the fact that
most of the races and other beings involved in these
discussions are involved in your planet one way or another.
So therefore it is the ideal meeting ground right in the
middle of the involvement area. It would be no good hosting
a debate or discussion on let us say Sirius because that is
away from the center of the problem. By addressing it at the
center of the problem and having everybody aware of what is
going on with all their monitoring equipment, with all their
technology, seeing what each party does, may be able to
facilitate and speed up the process instead of being as far
as possible in a sterile, neutral environment where it is
not seeing what is going on by one party whilst the other
party is still doing what it is doing whilst the discussions
are going on. So it is important to host it at the location
and source of the problem, you understand?
Leonedies: okay, question.
Russ: okay, it has been theorized in some of our mass media
and among some of the more imaginative groups that
discussions between our planet and other races have
already been taking place and been going on for many years.
How would these talks were this to be true affect those?
Leonedies: not at all.
Leo in fact they would augment them.
Russ: ahhh, excellent. Okay.....
Leonedies: question. I see you have none left okay.
Russ: yeah, none left.
Leonedies: okay. Did I give you what you wanted?
Leonedies: okay, now I go off and take my nap nap time.
Russ: okay, thank you Leonedies.
Leonedies: for this purpose, the name will be Daniel.
Russ: oh yeah, of course.
returns to make the transfer between speakers.)
says hi in Durondedunn.)
Russ: hi Tia.
Skip: hi darling.
Tia: hey, it's funny how he gets up and you see him get up
in his jammies and kind of walks across or crawls across to
the center of the futon, sits down, crosses his legs and
starts sucking on his thumb. I thought that was funny. Yes?
Oh, next speaker.
Skip: you'll get there.
Tia: I hope so, I hope so.
(Tia growls her way out for Omal.)
(Omal speaks next from the channeling futon
on the base.)
greetings and felicitations. Greetings Russ, greetings Skip,
I see we are down to just the two of you tonight.
Skip: yes sir.
Omal: I understand that the young lady is participating in
creating finance for herself and the gentleman that was here
last week is not here, that is his choice.
Russ: well apparently he'll be here next week theoretically.
Omal: theoretically. Okay, let us go over Tia's political
points. This is a discussion that she has been having on the
ongoing developments. All Tia's comments are relevant and
useful. Her opinions need to be emphasized that they are her
opinions. Some of them I agree with, some of them I have no
comment but it is important to remember and to emphasize
that they are her opinions. Her ability to understand and
size up a situation is very talented. The discussion that we
had about the Defcons, she worded that very well and avoided
a lot of the issues. Maybe Tia should have given pointers to
Monica Lewinsky and Bill Clinton. Okay, let me add on to
Leonedies' dissertation by saying that it is necessary for
the spiritual growth of your planet to be able to host these
discussions. In hosting these discussions, it aids in the
growth of the learning process, not only of your species and
other species but in species that are just participating by
observing. And in the learning process, there is
understanding of the growth that is growing within all life
forms that participate in the levels that your planet has
been through. Ascension is part of the growth process in all
species. Whether or not that happens in the near future or
in the far distant future is irrelevant. The main important
thing to remember that growth is happening. Whether or not
it is slow is a moot point. The understanding that growth is
part of the natural development is something that people on
your level tend to lose sight of when they are involved in
their daily lives. For all species as a group know that
growth is a constant factor. Questions and answers.
Skip: okay, I got one question. In the last decade or maybe
a little more, is this why people have become....where more
and more people.......where a lot of people to begin
with......more people have become aware of the spiritual
awakening as some people put it?
Omal: it is part of the development of all beings that they
realize as a group that they are growing and the growth that
happens is a natural outcome of this realization. It in
essence speeds up the growth process.
Omal: continue, it sounded as if you weren't quite finished
with your question.
skip: no, no, it's just fine. That's why they call it seeing
the light or whatever but....
Skip: more and more people becoming involved in it and more
people becoming aware that we're not the only beings in the
Omal: I think it was stated by one of your popular scientist
authors that to assume that you are the only species is not
only shortsighted but arrogant.
Skip: and very vain.
Omal: and very vain. To see things as you are the pinnacle,
you are the top, there is no better, you are the only is
obviously very wrong. Lifeforms take on many different
shapes as we discussed last week.
Omal: Karra mentioned that there were a considerable number
of different races in different appearances, different
incarnations. She deliberately avoided giving the races
various names. I think Karra handled that very well.
Skip: I think that was very wise.
Omal: the fact that security at your end was very, very lax
is in this case a benefit but it is necessary to remember
that security, so that we do not have problems that we had
in the past, is maintained. It is necessary to screen guests
very carefully. We do not want repeat performances of what
happened in the past. I think you are all of aware of what
happened just over 14 months ago.
Omal: okay, more questions please.
Russ: okay, in working on this outline that we're talking
Russ: a timeline let's say, he gave a nice example of an
estimated goal within a year, year and a half of having the
first group ready.
Russ: okay, to do so, there are couple of different things
that need to be done that would facilitate that.
Omal: that is correct.
Russ: so what we should do is set up a few minor goals or
things preliminary goals perhaps that would........something
we can set as benchmarks that we could say this is a point
that we wanted to reach and.....
Omal: I think Leonedies laid down the framework for you to
do that in how he worded the goal for a year to a year and a
half. He said all times are approximate.
Omal: if you were to follow his example, then you will be
able to work out particular goals. His idea of having a
group ready in a year to a year and a half is a subjective
point from his point of view.
Omal: what you might want to do and it is not for me to
interfere, I'm trying to go with what Leonedies said, is to
set yourself minor goals as you stated maybe by e-mailing
various individuals and groups and hopefully being able set
up a little discussion on when you are going to start the
discussions about the discussions. The discussions on the
protocol for the discussions on setting up the criteria for
the main talks.
Omal: I noticed that Leonedies set it up in three levels. A
discussion on setting up for the discussions on what will be
talked and what will be covered. I think the first set up is
a set up for bringing people together and to get them
Russ: well something to think about is coming up in the next
month or two in I believe it's in the Yucatán there is a
meeting, a conference taking place between quite a few
different channels on the planet.
Russ: and a lot of it's been coming on email right now a lot
of it's Internet organized, I'm wondering what part we could
take in at least electronically assisting in maybe getting
the ball running there?
Omal: I cannot intervene, you will have to come to your own
decision on what you wish to do.
Russ: okay. I'll talk it over with the host.
Omal: that would be wise. Next question?
Russ: Skip, no? Okay, world wise with the Defcon coming
about and the meetings you had, the talks, how is this going
to affect the talks as far as the scheduling goes?
Omal: not at all.
Omal: not at all unless you slide into scenario C and then
all bets are off.
Russ: oh, okay. That would be a bit of a distraction.
Omal: yes, survival is a distraction.
Russ: okay. Tia didn't touch on this but maybe you could
help me with this.
Russ: scenario C, let's say the impossible happens and they
do decide to impeach Clinton and Gore comes into the
Omal: that is scenario B in Tia's updated predictions.
Omal: I cannot go into too much detail as I'm waiting to
hear back from Ashtar and Sananda on whether we can proceed
with the projections for the next five years. They are still
being discussed and debated.
Russ: all right, would it be wise have a release form or a
release, a pre-release at least written up in a way that we
could then just edit it to the specific general release?
Omal: I do not fully understand what you mean. In
implication to what?
Russ: for example, if during the conference you had with Tia
concerning alerting to.......
Omal: ah, I understand. You would wish to have something
typed up like communiqué blank, due to circumstances
involving blank, blank, blank, it is necessary to inform you
that we have increased our level of readiness to Defcon
Russ: that way at least we have a chance you can go over the
language, if it looks good, we can fill in the blanks, make
it work right and speed.
Omal: the importance for a pre-release form is the fact that
it has to be short, precise and to the point. If it is
long-winded, then it will be taking away from the point. So
a pre-release form that is written, ready with the blanks to
be filled in is something that has to be thought on very
Russ: okay. Well I'm thinking of the.....we discussed the
urgency of the situation were it to happen where there is a
bit of a time lag between the information given, information
typed up, information given out.
Omal: the way that we have set it up is that you yourselves
can declare a Defcon advancement. If you remember, what
constitutes an increase to Defcon three?
Russ: well it would be the key points or the key events that
are happening at the same time.
Omal: correct which would be?
Russ: which would be a civil disobedience of some kind, a
natural disaster of financial, economic implications.
Russ: and a drop in the stock market of a 150 points in a
single day or by the end the day.
Omal: correct. That is Defcon three.
Omal: what is Defcon two?
Russ: Defcon two would be a drop in the market of 300
Russ: oh sorry. 250 points, two natural disasters going on
at the very same time, a civil disobedience in three
Omal: correct and let us not go to Defcon one.
Omal: but that is pretty horrific and one can be skipped
over for another depending on what happens.
Omal: but having that ability, you can decide yourself
exactly what a Defcon constitutes an increase in a.......
SIDE ONE ENDS
(Omal finishes up from where he left off.)
Omal: you yourselves can make the announcement and the
release when it is appropriate. We can countermand by making
a release if it is deemed that your decision was inaccurate
and erroneous. You do not have all the information that we
have access to so by being able to set it up in such a way
that a communiqué could be followed by a communiqué
canceling the previous communiqué. For example, let us go to
a fictitious incident. Communiqué number one, due to the
drop in the stock market of a 150 points and the forest
fires in the.........no, let us say the earthquake in the
state of Washington in the Metropolitan area of Seattle and
the riots that are currently going on in new York, it is
necessary to advise you that we have increased our level of
readiness to Defcon three. Defcon three constitutes a
warning of imminent problems and you would explain what the
problems are. What I suggest is on your page, you have
within a "from the desk of Omal", an explanation of this.
When you send the email, you send a link incorporated to the
Russ: okay. I had Karra and I working on this.
Omar yes, I know. Next question and final question.
Russ: all right, the talks themselves are ready in their
form to begin. The timing is going to be a part of our
progression into learning. It's all perfect, correct?
Omal: that is correct.
Russ: thank you.
Omal: live long, prosper, I'll be back.
Skip: thank you Omal.
returns in a boisterous mood.)
says hi in Durondedunn.)
Russ: it's always tough to see how the perfection of the
moment is self-evident.
Russ: though we all agree to it, it's not something you can
Russ: but it's nice to hear it from someone who knows.
(We hear a spanking sound.)
Tia: spank me.
Skip: what's the matter baby?
Tia: oh, I'm just in a playful mood.
Skip: oh, okay.
Tia: uh-huh. Okay, I suppose I better put on the next
(Karra brings some semblance of decorum.)
Russ: hi love.
Karra: hello Skip.
Skip: how you doing dear?
Karra: hey, how's it going?
Skip: good, I think.
Karra: that's good and how you doing hon?
Russ: good sweetheart, a little bushed you know.
Karra: yes, I know, I know.
Skip: Russ, engineer or healer?
Karra: I speak soft and soothing tone. Okay, first of all an
announcement. Not this coming week, but the following week,
I will be unavailable for channeling session due to the fact
that I am going to Sirius for a week to attend a couple of
meetings and a formal function.
Russ: that should be fun.
Skip: sounds like a challenge.
Karra: yes it will be entertaining. Actually I'm looking
forward to the formal function. I get an opportunity to
dress up and be.......
Skip: beautiful, beautiful.
Karra: thank you.
Russ: David and Michael going? (Our two twin sons.)
Karra: of course and Klarra.
Russ: get to see their home planet?
Karra: uh-huh. Also little sis will be coming as well.
Russ: oh really?
Russ: it'll be kind of a dull channeling session.
Skip: sweetheart, I got a question for you.
Skip: I have the natural ability of taking people's pain
Skip: I have come to the conclusion or through experience.
Skip: have learned that I don't have to ground myself
Karra: you can ground yourself whilst doing it or you can do
it naturally without being aware of it.
Skip: well maybe I'm doing it naturally because I'm taking
people's pain away okay?
Skip: but I don't absorb it like I used to.
Skip: at one time I was absorbing their pain to where I
would start getting sick.
Skip: I don't do that anymore.
Karra: so you figured out that you have get rid of it
immediately as you are doing it correct?
Skip: evidently and not being aware of it.
Karra: well I think you are aware of that you're doing it by
the stance that you take you know with your legs slightly
apart and your hands out and as you pull it in, it washes
Skip: okay, all right. I'm also going to a spiritual,
Skip: a lady that's taken a course in this from another lady
that says she can do all this. I've never met the lady so I
don't know whether she's true or not true but this graduate
from her university, her college course or however you want
to say it seems to be doing me a lot of good. I feel like
I'm more balanced and more satisfied with myself and what
Karra: that's why I thought it was appropriate to give you
that piece of information.
Skip: because even when this lady that I go to was working
on me, I built my own energy.
Skip: my little lightbulb running through me.
Skip: I built my own energy so that it would help and it is.
Skip: but I'm using her strength too to help me do my own
Karra: that's correct. See, even a healer needs a healer
from time to time.
Skip: uh-huh, uh-huh.
Karra: and by discussing the problems and setting the
channels and observing what she does, helps you to
subconsciously facilitate your own healing.
Skip: uh-huh, it does, it really did. Now she's told me that
I should quit healing, I said "no I can't do that." She says
"well you're taking away the energy from people but you're
not solving the problem." I said "yeah, I solve the problem
Karra: you see, part of solving the problem is discussing
Karra: you know by suggesting alternatives.
Karra: for example, your daughter, she gets headaches and
nauseated when she smokes.
Karra: she's allergic to nicotine.
Karra: so the solution is she quits smoking.
Karra: which I don't think she has, has she? She tries.
Skip: this is kind of of back and forth situation darling.
Skip: she'll quit for a while and then she'll start again
and then she'll quit for a while but she found out that
chocolate brings them headaches on too and if she drinks
coffee, it stops them.
Skip: so the caffeine has a counteractive thing in it
against the chocolate and against the nicotine I guess.
Karra: well, chocolate has nicotine, not nicotine, caffeine
Skip: caffeine in it right.
Karra: so there's got a be something more in the chocolate.
Skip: just the caffeine is killing the headaches for her.
Karra: uh-huh because with chocolate, it has the caffeine in
it but it's also creating the headache.
Skip: its got other in it besides caffeine in chocolate.
There's something else in chocolate besides caffeine.
Karra: that's also in nicotine or in the cigarette. I don't
think it is the nicotine, I think it is the chemicals added
Karra: hmm...could be.
Skip: because all tobacco in tailor-made cigarettes has got
glycerin in them so they won't go out. The tobacco's treated
Skip: it's not detrimental to your health.
Karra: isn't that also in chocolate?
Skip: glycerin, let me think, I worked for Hershey
Chocolate....hmmm. There's milk...
Skip: condensed down so thick that it looks like taffy.
Chocolate's ground for 72 hours and then pressed to take all
the oil out of it and then it's broken up and powdered out
and sugar, milk, trying to think........there is a
preservative added to it also.
Skip: now that could have the glycerin in it, the
Karra: well it might not just be the glycerin.
Skip: well you know a combination is what I was trying to
Karra: yeah, something that acts like glycerin or it could
be something like saltpeter which is also in cigarettes.
Skip: okay, tobacco had glycerin tobacco and the paper is
carbon when it's burned.
Karra: well it doesn't matter.
Skip: I'd have to research it a little bit more but I just
can't just call all of it offhand okay?
Karra: I understand. But you see, by pointing out what is
causing the headaches.
Karra: is part of the cure.
Skip: yeah because all chocolate's got the same thing in it.
Skip: and it doesn't seem to.........well maybe she's going
to extremes with her chocolate because she is a chocoholic.
I got to giggle but it's true.
Karra: how much chocolate does she eat in a day?
Skip: she's gotten away from it but she used to eat oh
probably half a pound of chocolate a day.
Karra: that might do it. Here's an interesting little side
Skip: go ahead.
Karra: if your daughter wanted to get a buzz going as I
think you would call it.
Skip: yeah, go ahead.
Karra: just let her eat five pounds of chocolate has the
same effect as smoking of your hand rolled, herbal
cigarettes of the recreational type.
Skip: oh, yeah, the wacky tobaccee?
Karra uh-huh, marijuana.
Skip: yeah, that's what we call it is wacky tobaccee.
Karra: uh-huh. Five pounds of chocolate would have the same
effect as one joint.
Skip: well yeah, because isn't there cocoa in chocolate?
Isn't there....yeah, coke's in chocolate.
Russ: yeah but it's been processed mostly out though.
Skip: yeah but it's still got a residue in there.
Russ: a little bit.
Karra: oh it's very, very, very minute.
Skip: years ago, it had heavy coke in it.
Russ: Coca-Cola did.
Skip: yeah, Coca-Cola was real bad for that. Anyhow, thank
Karra: no problem at all.
Skip: I appreciate the little tidbit that you gave me too.
Karra: yes okay, I have to depart.
Skip: thank you.
Russ: bye bye Karra.
Karra: okay, catch later Skip.
Karra: see later hon, missing you.
Russ: I'll miss you too babe.
Karra: no, missing you.
Skip: oh Russ, which one is the engineer?
Skip: Kiri? Okay, because I've got to ask her a question.
transitions between sisters.)
says hi in Durondedunn.)
Russ: hi Tia.
Skip: hi sweetie.
Tia: hey, how's it going?
Skip: well, we're getting some answers to things.
Skip: getting answers to our questions, let's put it that
Russ: Tia, I got a slight problem, I need to go crash out
for a while. I can't stay for Kiri and the rest of this.
Tia: well Kiri's about to come on anyway.
Tia: okay and besides, it's getting close to the end of the
Russ: yeah, I'm dragging here.
Skip: I noticed you are, yeah. Kiri's the engineer? Okay.
(Kiri starts by explaining Tia's nickname.)
Skip: hello darlin'.
Kiri: okay, explanation. Tia's boisterousness is fluffy.
When Tia is boisterous, she is fluffy.
Skip: okay baby.
Kiri: because the tips of her hair start to stand up.
Skip: okay darlin'.
Kiri: it goes like this........like a cat gets fluffy when
it's all playful, Tia gets a little bit fluffy on her hair
when she's playful so she becomes fluffy.
Skip: okay darlin'. I got a question to ask you.
Kiri: uh-huh no, I'm not going to tell you how to build a
warp core engine and don't ask my sister.
Skip: okay no, nevermind. No, no, no this is
completely......no, I ain't going to do that to you. You and
I were friends.....(In a previous past life together.)
Skip: okay. Was I ever in combat when me and you were
Kiri: indirectly, yes.
Skip: no hand-to-hand bit?
Kiri: not that I'm aware of however, I was not always around
when you were off doing your engineering thing.
Skip: okay all right.
Kiri: all's I was was a just regular ship's engineer.
Kiri: I can't tell you more on what you did.
Skip: no problem, I just thought maybe you might be able to
enlighten me on a couple of things that's happened to me
Kiri: all's I can tell you is there are times in that past
life where you weren't in and then you would reappear and
then you would disappear and then reappear.
Skip: okay, all right all right. All right because the lady
says she took a bit of metal out of my ribs. It looked like
the end of the battle ax and she also took three chunks of
steel out of my left shoulder that looked like part of a
sword. (Etheric healing.)
Kiri: uh-huh. But then.....
Skip: from previous times.
Kiri: yeah but then shards of metal can look like that from
engines and so on.
Skip: true, true.
Kiri: if you don't know what you're looking at.
Skip: well true enough, it could have been from the
Kiri: what explosion?
Skip: I don't know darling, I don't know what you're talking
Kiri: uh-huh. You remember that we said that your past lives
would come to you in bits and pieces.
Kiri: uh-huh, things like that.
Skip: well you told me it was my fault.
Skip: when I was still there.
Kiri: all's that I know is from what I heard as part of the
Skip: I was there.
Kiri: uh-huh, but where is there?
Skip: right in the middle of it from what I can comprehend
or real close to the middle of it.
Skip: but that's.....let it go now.
Kiri: I was about to say, I could start pushing but it
wouldn't be appropriate for me to do that.
Skip: no, no, no don't do that. I just thought maybe that
you could enlighten me on this other and evidently it's....I
picked it up from that last bit.
Kiri: uh-huh, your reading into it and it's triggering
things which is good. Okay, got a quick question for
sleepyhead. Let me see, what would be a good nickname,
Kiri: what was that technical problem that you were working
Russ: which one?
Kiri: you were......according to big sis, who's going to get
hit with a watermelon if she's not careful, you got a little
frustrated trying to explain a technical problem with I
think it was a hardware problem?
Russ: technical problem with a hardware problem.
Kiri: she wasn't too clear on it, she got frustrated with
you for getting frustrated. And when she does that she leaks
on her I-mode which I can pick up on.
Russ: oh no, there was a part where one of the workers there
left a video card out of the computer I had to take back.
(From a local computer store we had shopped out the work.) I
had to go back and get the video card and put that in.
Kiri: that could of been it.
Russ: that's probably it. It's the only bit of hardware I've
been working on lately.
Kiri: uh-huh, yeah she got frustrated with you getting
frustrated and knowing better.
Russ: no, I just look like stupid fool.
Kiri: well, the joys of being a boss.
Russ: oh yeah.
Skip: or a businessman.
Kiri: oh yes, I know all about business. I know all about
supply and demand.
Skip: I'm going to try to start another business.
Kiri: oh cool.
Skip: yeah, security for people's homes.
Kiri: security, security, isn't that what Mark does?
Skip: Mark does personal people security.
Skip: okay? What I'm looking at is mechanical or technical
security for people's homes when they're away.
Kiri: kind of like a defense field.
Skip: yeah, more or less yes. Yeah, that would be in your
Skip: in our dimension we don't have that particular
capability so we have to secure the doors, windows and
whatever we can secure.
Kiri: talking of defense, our semi-resident oath keeper will
be here next week.
Skip: who now?
Kiri: the semi-resident Capt. of the oath keepers.
Skip: oh well good, I'd love to talk to her again.
Kiri: the defense force, uh-huh.
Skip: she's a sweetheart.
Skip: I don't know how much she's changed since she became
Kiri: what do you think Russ?
Russ: not that much.
Skip: oh, okay all right. I'd love to talk to her again.
Kiri: I think she's little more softer spoken and doesn't
rush into things.
Skip: well responsibility does that to you.
Kiri: it's been such a long time since I've been
Kiri: don't smirk Russ, it doesn't become you.
Russ: oh I'm not.
Skip: we're all that way at one time or another though.
Kiri: uh-huh but my life doesn't count on me being serious
all the time.
Skip: well neither does mine.
Kiri: no and I think.....
Skip: and guess what darling? I retired today.
Skip: thank you baby.
Kiri: (Sings) congratulations, celebrations.
Skip: got retired today. No what I had done is I retired
from a full-time, steady job.
Skip: now I'm going to go in business for myself.
Kiri: isn't that a contradiction?
Skip: no, I'm not working for somebody else, I'm working for
Kiri: what I mean is, if you're retired, you're not meant to
work but going into business for yourself means that you are
going to work harder and more hours than you did before.
Skip: no, not really because I'm going to do this at my
speed, not at somebody telling me I have to be at work at 6
o'clock in the morning and can't go home until 4:30 at
Kiri: Beanpole, go to bed.
Russ: I am going to bed.
Skip: all right. Good night Russ, we'll see you tomorrow.
Kiri: how easy to coerce and manipulate.
Skip: you got it, especially when he feels like that.
Kiri: especially in that state.
Skip: yeah but darling, no this security thing is, I'm going
to try to give people what they need to secure their homes.
Skip: on a free evaluation.
Kiri: well that's a good idea.
Skip: and then if they want me to install the locks and so
on and so forth and furnish the equipment, naturally I'm
going to charge them by the hour plus material.
Kiri: oh of course.
Skip: and if it gets to the point where somebody wants an
alarm system installed.
Skip: the new technology that's come up here just last
couple of years, you don't have to wire people's homes
Skip: they got little boxes that fasten on the windows and
the doors and so on and so forth and you got a central alarm
system and they're all radio transmitted.
Skip: so you don't have to install wiring so that the kind
of work that I'm looking at or business per se.
Skip: is going to be a very laid back thing.
Kiri: yeah now what you can do is, I just had a little idea.
Skip: go ahead.
Kiri: is that if they have a home computer and have what is
a infrared linking system, you could probably put software
and programming inside the computer that can be activated by
a touch panel outside let's say a simple combination
switches it off, a simple combination switches it on so that
when they come to the house they type in their combination
it goes to the computer and it switches it off.
Kiri: when they leave, they do the same thing and it
switches on. Now.........
Skip: okay, one question before you go any further, I'm
sorry about interrupting you but do you have to leave your
computer on all the time to do this?
Skip: okay, all right, that's the question I had. Go ahead.
Kiri: uh-huh, most people do but if an alarm is activated,
it sends a message to the computer and the computer dials
the police department and informs the police department that
there is a break-in going on at a particular location.
Skip: okay now, in that particular instance, do you have say
a time lag between the time that the seal is broken and time
to call the police department and let them know that there
isn't a break-in? In other words, say accidentally..
Kiri: somebody breaks a window accidentally.
Skip: yes, yes, that's right.
Kiri: uh-huh, well if there was a person there at the house,
they would be able to type in their passcode in on the main
keyboard and that would cancel the alarm.
Skip: oh okay, all right I gotcha, I gotcha but what I was
really running through my mind is say okay, use myself for
Skip: okay I have got this alarm system in my house and I
forget about it, unlock the door and walk in.
Skip: is there a time lag between me walking in and being
able to punch in on the keyboard?
Kiri: I think that there would be the ability to do that
Skip: I'd say about 30 seconds?
Skip: or maybe a minute at the most?
Skip: yeah, it'd have to be set up like that because a lot
of people forget.
Skip: and even the children.
Skip: you know, the kids come in from school, maybe early
and mom ain't home and she's punched in the code.
Skip: the kids open the door and walk in. They don't even
think about that code, in fact they don't even think about
calling it in.
Skip: yeah that'd be the only problem with them about
hooking up with the computer. Well it's the same thing with
the silent alarm that's hooked to the police
Skip: you have that same problem.
Kiri: yeah. Yeah and you have probably something like if the
person had speakers at their computer, as soon as the alarm
was set off after let's say 30 seconds or a minute, or as
soon as the door or security is breached, an alarm would go
off and say "warning, warning.."
Skip: yeah, yeah I gotcha, yeah.
Kiri: "alarm system is now activated, you have 30 seconds to
deactivate the alarm."
Skip: uh-huh, that would be, that would be appropriate.
Skip: yeah that would even tell the kids.
Kiri: yeah. Something like a speaker right next
door.......right next to the door.
Kiri: you know that would say something like that.
Kiri: which means that the convict would have 30 seconds to
locate the computer and shut it down and find the switch to
switch it off.
Kiri: I don't think most criminals would be able to do that.
Skip: uh-uh, because they wouldn't know where it would be
located in the house.
Kiri: uh-huh. So you see?
Kiri: and if it's not in the living room, it's in an office
Skip: it would take them more than 30 seconds to find it.
Kiri: uh-huh, to switch off the computer, even if the key
panel is easily accessible right next to the door.
Kiri: they would have to go "okay, where's the computer?
Umm, Umm, umm."
Skip: yeah right, you're correct.
Skip: you're correct. Anyhow, alarm systems, I probably
won't fool with them because there's so many alarm system
companies out there that they can probably do it at a better
price than I can.
Skip: you know what I'm saying.
Kiri: oh yeah, probably.
Skip: but the free evaluation, the people can do it
themselves or I can do it for them which would be sticks in
the back of their sliders.
Skip: plus locks on them so somebody can't pick them up and
lift them out.
Skip: because a lot of the sliding glass doors that they
designed in this country, the sliding part is on the
Skip: of the door.
Skip: that means you can pick them up and lift them out of
Kiri: yeah. There is a new design that has come out that has
the sliding door, I believe it is on the outside and the
reason that it's on the outside is because when the wind
blows, and if it's on the inside.
Kiri: right? The door moves and there's a draft created.
Skip: yes there is.
Kiri: but if it's on the outside.
Skip: yeah it pushes against the other door and it stops the
Skip: but what we can do in that particular instance is
drill through the stationary panel.
Skip: and stick a deadbolt through it.
Kiri: yeah. Whereas this one I think is put on back to
Skip: the slider's on the inside.
Skip: the same as mine are.
Skip: and you can still do that.
Skip: you can still drill a hole through the bottom of the
door into the stationary panel and put a deadbolt in it.
Skip: that way, nobody can pick the door up.
Kiri: uh-huh, because they could pick the door up here.
Skip: you can pick the door up, even these ones on the
Skip: you can stick a bar underneath of them, pick them up
and flip them over the track on the inside of the house and
then walk right in.
Kiri: uh-huh. Yes with the alarm system, I mean there's so
much software that you could do. You know the thing would be
that if you were somebody was to say, "I want you to do an
alarm", maybe have somebody that you work with that does
Skip: uh-huh or get myself in contact with an alarm company.
Kiri: uh-huh and they give you a referral fee.
Skip: yes, yes, I could do it that way.
Skip: and in fact that might be a good idea, I like that.
Kiri: you're welcome.
Skip: yes, thank you very much.
Kiri: you're very welcome. Okay, looks like the tape's
Skip: yes it is.
Skip: while we shut this session down, the host is gone, or
the semi host or whatever.
Kiri: one of the....
Kiri: and the other host is up here.
Kiri: and thank you for assisting him with his vehicle
I think you might be right.
Kiri: I think it might be the timing chain.
Skip: yeah. That's the first thing that crossed my mind, the
way it's clicking because if it was a valve.....
Kiri: uh-huh, you would hear it up higher and you would be
able to feel it in the casing.
Skip: well, well not only that, but your engine would run
Skip: because that valve would be bad.
Kiri: yeah and that would also be a sucking sound as well.
Skip: yes and if it was a piston.
Kiri: uh-huh, there would be a knocking sound very similar
however there would be a clunk at the end of the knock.
Skip: you got it. So, the only other thing that I can come
up with is possibly the timing chain has gotten loose enough
that it's banging against the case when you rev it up
because that throws a loop in your chain when you rev it up.
Kiri: but it also continues when the engine's running.
Skip: well true but when it's running at idle speed.
Skip: you're not throwing that loop.
Kiri: yeah. But as the engine's running, the knock, knock,
is still there I think.
Skip: not at idle.
Kiri: no not at idle but as soon as......
Skip: just at high-speed.
Kiri: yes soon as you.....
Skip: it's just like a tire, a tire's not round when you're
running down the road.
Skip: it's got a high spot in it.
Skip: from it throwing. The chain does the same thing it
throws a high spot in the chain.
Kiri: of course it does, that's quite correct.
Skip: yeah, throws a high spot in that chain and that high
spot's hitting the case.
every time it hits the case, it bangs down and then it comes
up and hits again.
Skip: so it's throwing that chain is what it's doing.
Kiri: so the chain is possibly stretched then.
Skip: over the period of time, I don't know how many miles
is on that little automobile but probably quite a few but
there is a tightener on the inside of the case that can be
loosened, pushed up against the chain and make it run
tighter. So possibly, from the chain stretching, it's
stretched just enough to hit the case and we would tighten
it up with the tightener. That may be all's that's wrong
Skip: and by it banging the case, it's broke the gasket or
maybe the case itself.
Skip: and we may have to put a new case on it.
Skip: but I think that will solve Mark's problem.
Kiri: I do appreciate you assisting.
Skip: that's my stock in trade darling.
Kiri: yeah, assistance.
Skip: uh-huh okay.
Kiri: okay. Let me quickly put on.....
Skip: thank you for the information, I appreciate it.
Kiri: uh-huh. I noticed that Leonedies was sucking on his
thumb as well as sucking on Mark's thumb down there whilst
he's talking, I thought that was funny.
Skip: he was.
Kiri: and his choice in words, nap nap.
Kiri: even though he's an eighth dimensional being in a
sixth dimensional body, he can be very young.
Skip: yeah. Immature darling, immature.
Kiri: well not immature, he's very mature for his tender age
but I think youthful would be a better word.
Skip: there you go, that'll work. Well thank you again.
Kiri: no problem and thank you.
Skip: and we'll probably see you next week.
Kiri: and the week after I will not be available.
Skip: yeah, I understand. Bye babe.
wraps things up.)
says hi in Durondedunn.)
Skip: hi sweetheart.
Skip: well, our other, our other resident kind of goofed out
Tia: I think he's.....
Skip: he was, he was just beat, he had to get to sleep.
Skip: he was just bushed.
Tia: yes, he did look.....his aura was very depressed.
Skip: yeah he was, he was just completely beat out. He's
been putting in some long hours.
Tia: oh yes he has. Been making money too.
Skip: yes he is.
Skip: he's doing well.
Tia: okay well I think.
Skip: yeah it's getting on to that time baby.
Tia: it's getting close to 11.
Skip: yeah it's...
Tia: what is the chronometer time?
Skip: let me put my glasses on so I can see it. Yeah it's
Tia: yeah so the tape should be pretty close to being over
Skip: yes it is.
Tia: okay, let's call it a wrap.
Tia: don't worry about shutting it off, let it use up so
that it's not dead space.
Skip: okay. But anyhow, thank you for hosting tonight.
Tia: oh thank you.
Skip: I appreciate it.
Tia: well I try to do my best as a ring mistress. Next time
I will bring my whip and chair.
Skip: no, please don't do that.
Tia: that's lion things. Okay, I will wear my big hat, tall
hat and my red jacket with the tails and my tight spandex.
Skip: well I'll go for that. That's good looking.
Skip: oh boy.
(Tia says bye in Durondedunn.)
get to hear Mark's real voice as he
returns from the base.)
Mark: I think one of my smoother landings. (Yawns) I think
I'm getting better at my landings.
Skip: think you are huh, you're not skidding in so bad?
Mark: I just had enough time to watch a shooting star. God,
I guess Russ took into account.
Skip: yeah he just, he just, poor baby. He was just laying
here, he just couldn't keep his eyes open anymore.
Mark: oh was......were they being that boring? (Joking as
only Mark can.)
Skip: no, uh-huh, it was just that he was that tired.
Mark: oh really?
Skip: yeah, he was just, he was just pooped.
Skip: he's, he's just totaled because he's been putting in
some god-awful hours.
Mark: oh God yeah he has. Kind of worries me a little bit
Skip: well now he's not working two jobs now, he's only
Skip: so.....he's......I think, now this is just my personal
opinion but I think that his tiredness is just by being
awake so long.
Skip: because he's enjoying what he's doing.
Mark: oh yeah.
Skip: and by enjoying your job, it doesn't seem like a job.
Mark: no, no.
Skip: you know what I'm talking about Mark.
Mark: oh yeah, yeah.
Skip: because that's why I've stayed in maintenance all my
life, because I've always enjoyed the challenge.
Mark: yeah, I'm going to go and grab my cigarettes.
Skip: oh golly, we can get up out of here.
Mark: okay. Oh, here they are.
Skip: oh, okay.
Mark: we can head up the stairs.
Skip: yeah. Getting a little stiff sitting still so long.
Skip: that's not my cup of tea is it?
(The door closes as both walk out.)
THE TAPE RUNS OUT
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