SIDE ONE
(Omal comes on as
the first speaker)
Omal:
greetings and felicitations.
Russ:
greetings Omal.
Omal:
greetings Russ, greetings
Skip.
Skip:
good evening Omal.
Omal:
okay, how is everything?
Russ:
spectacular.
Omal:
and how are you doing Skip?
Skip:
great but I’m getting better.
Omal:
that is good. Okay, let us get
down to business and start
discussing upcoming events and
occurrences and also past
events. We will start in the
past and proceed into the
present and then finally,
hopefully into the future.
Okay, first of all let’s go
over the past three weeks and
the occurrences that have
happened within those last
three weeks. Let us travel
back a little bit further to
approximately a year ago when
a similar spate
of communiqués were released
with the various situations
going on in other parts of the
world and some also being
similar parts of the world. It
appears to be a cycle that
takes place in early September
and goes right through getting
progressively worse until it
gets the point where it becomes
necessary to monitor. As we
have seen this year compared
to last year, this is far
worse. In previous years it
appears to be a continual
trend on an upward level of
aggressive actions, political
unrest, social and economic
unrest and also planetary
unrest. The reasons why the
planetary crusts and shifts
occur more frequently in the
later part of your year is as
you approach closer to the Sun
on
the cycle which during your
winter you’re actually closer
to the Sun than you are during
the summer. The pull
seems to be more intense at
this time. The
photon cloud certainly has
played a part in this and it
seems to me that the increased
gravitational effects have
been more pronounced recently.
This is also part of, if you
study closely, you will
notice that this plays very
much into sunspot cycles. Also
the effect of these
earthquakes do have a social
and economic nature attached
to them making the struggle
even harder. You will notice
in manufacturing parts of your
world an increase in prices.
If you look at various events
going on right now in the
present, you’ll notice that
there has been a lot of
precipitation activity in
North Carolina,
first
of all from hurricane Floyd
and now from hurricane or
tropical storm Irene has
dumped a lot of water on these
producing areas which in turn
has an economic effect which
would be?
Russ:
higher prices.
Omal:
that is correct which in turn
puts a burden on the
production and the retail
side. So you see the problem.
Now moving a little bit into
the future, we see as the
winter gets more closer in the
northern hemisphere, that
there will be more
concentration on survival as
opposed to unrest. For
example, this time of year,
Chechnya is becoming cool,
the nights are definitely
getting longer, the
temperatures are getting
colder. It’s
a very mountainous terrain and
therefore as winter gets near
the fighting will taper off however,
before that arrives there will
be some big pushes. It seems
to me that Tia’s analyzing
what occurred and saying that
she was incorrect in that it
was the rebels that had caused
the problem…..that it was the
Russians that
caused the problem and she
corrected herself by saying
that that was incorrect and it
was a small minority that was
causing problems for a large
majority. What appears to be
happening now is unfortunately
Russia is attacking a small
minority in trying to
stabilize the area and in
doing so unfortunately the
majority is being harmed by
both sides. Now there is a
situation occurring in Belarus
at this time where a more of a
shall we say a
old-style Soviet dictator
is jockeying for position and
power and could actually
present some serious problems.
He is trying to reunify with
Russia into a greater Russia
so that it would give him more
influence and power and the
dictator is a little I
hesitate to say dangerous but
certainly somebody that is
worth watching and it’s very
reminiscent of the early
Soviet Union under
such people as Lenin and
Stalin. That is something that
is worth watching. Last week
there was also a comment made
by Mme. ambassador (Karra) in
regards to a
possible isolationist movement
occurring within the United
States. That is a possibility
but one at this time that
needs to be downplayed but
watched carefully for that
movement. At the
moment we do not see anybody
strongly suggesting an
isolationist movement but if
that was to occur, and that is
a possibility, it would be
something that would be a
benefit in a very, very short
run and in the long run would
be very detrimental to the
United States even
possibly leading up to a
breakup of the United States
which again would be very
unuseful for a global society
and economy. However, we do
not see that as a strong
potential, just something very
minor and worth looking out
for and maybe if necessary
becoming very vocal in your
capacities against this and
not leading a charge but
certainly getting the word out
there against a isolationist
movement. In the past any
country that has isolated
itself in the short
term it has benefited it but
in the long term it has been
very harmful. To give a few
examples, the Peoples Republic
of China is one example,
another example is Japan and
finally the Soviet Union. The
isolationists tend to end up
being more backward in the
long run. Okay, having covered
the past, the present and the
future, let us open up for
discussion.
Russ:
okay, the situation happening
in Chechnya…..
Omal:
uh-huh.
Russ:
how does that differ from the
situation that happened
between Indonesia and Timor?
Omal:
it differs in the fact that it
is a totally A, different
setup, you
have a area where a lot of
damage has been done by a very
small minority of individuals
to an external
power. I have not seen a small
group of individuals attacking
Indonesia from East Timor.
Conversely it has been the
opposite in East Timor that it
has been the larger area
attacking a
small
minority……or majority in that
area but a
minority overall. So they are
two
totally opposites.
Russ:
but prior to that before this
current problem back when
Russia was trying to quell
Chechnya’s bid for
independence where there
weren’t anything like
movements into Russia to
actually to use terrorist
actions there,
Chechnya was just a smaller
power that was basically a
former part of Russia but
still considered a
protectorate and then they
wished to be completely
independent of all kind of
rule from Russia and set out
to make a stance about that.
Omal:
unfortunately Chechnya is one
of these areas where I hate to
use the term backward but they
are certainly not in an ideal
position
to be able to be independent
from an area which is very
beneficial for
it. It is a shortsightedness
that is national pride which
is certainly a good thing to
have but to be aware that for
a better and greater
area, they
certainly should be protected
and looked after and trade,
not necessarily in commodities
but trade in all sorts of
possibilities with someone
such as the Soviet Union.
Russ:
hmmm, and Timor of course is
now I guess the world’s newest
nation.
Omal:
and one that is unfortunately
not very capable of supporting
itself independently from
Indonesia.
Russ:
correct which brings
me to that point I
had just brought up.
Skip:
it doesn't have the economic
power.
Omal:
that is correct.
Russ:
yeah.
Skip:
hmm.
Russ:
going to be propped up by
world governments until it can
actually get itself on its own
feet which might never happen.
Omal:
exactly.
Skip:
that’s what I was looking at,
yeah it may never happen.
Russ:
so I’m wondering how much of a
wise move it was for
anybody to really rock the
boat, especially Indonesia and
its efforts. I think could
have been done a little more
diplomatically to maintain
Timor’s dependence on
Indonesia.
Omal:
unfortunately it is something
that
when
somebody sees the opportunity
to be independent, "we can
be our own country", national
pride is something very
powerful and has
caused many problems in the
past. If you look at some of
these nations that have had
great national pride within
themselves, they have
normally ended up in deep
trouble. If you look at your
history, you can see many
instances of that and people
do not learn from those
historical instances. A lot of
people do not even
know the history of those.
Russ:
well I’m sure it’s not
restricted to just this
planet.
Omal:
no unfortunately,
it
seems to be a condition of the
third dimensional life form.
Russ:
unfortunately I have to assume
that would be correct. Until
we get to that higher
dimension where we can
understand that all is all,
we're still stuck with
independence and I am me and
you are you. Okay, oh oh
Skip, let me go
and pass the ball over to
you for a few.
Skip:
do what?
Russ: do you have any
questions?
Skip:
no, no, no. I’m just
listening.
Russ:
okay. Now in the isolationist
movement Karra talked about
America and staying out of
things, isn't
the question more or less
though even if there was an
isolationist movement that due
to the Internet and the
greater communications
available to people that you
can’t really maintain an
isolationist movement due to
the fact of the amount of
information coming in from the
world would pretty much
incense enough people to
stifle any movement that might
be
started?
Omal:
no, it is very easy to cut
Internet access from the
outside the world to an area.
You saw that very recently
what happens when a important
communication center is made
inactive.
Russ:
what,
Faxdave. (?)
Omal:
no I’m talking about
yesterday’s incident.
Russ:
oh, where
Microsoft went down.
Omal:
now imagine if it was
deliberately set up that
telephone communications could
not get into your country.
Would you have an Internet
external after that?
Russ:
I don't
know, isn’t
there also a satellite system
that's set up?
Omal:
certainly and satellite
transmissions can be very
easily blocked.
Russ:
hmm.
Skip:
they could jam that.
Omal:
very easily.
Skip:
that can be jammed okay?
Omal:
so therefore it is something
that would be very easy and if
people were being monitored or
major leaders were being
monitored, they could be
manipulated in a way that they
would receive erroneous
information that would be
altered as it were, it is very
easy to do.
Russ:
hmm okay.
Skip:
in other words you could
coerce a nation.
Omal:
very easily, it is the
Internet on that side is more
dangerous than if you were
having information coming in
through the Internet,
all's
you have to do is alter it
slightly and it serves your
purpose.
Skip:
changes its whole meaning.
Omal:
correct, a few choice words
here, a few choice words there
and things would change as Skip
pointed out their meanings
totally.
Russ:
hmm.
Skip:
just like, can I make a
personal example?
Omal:
but certainly.
Skip:
have you ever been in class
when they have what they call 'pass
a whisper'?
Russ:
huh-huh.
Skip:
when the teacher whispers
something to the front student
and it’s passed all through
the class and by the time it
gets back, it ain’t nothing
near what was said to begin
with?
Omal:
I believe a good example would
be an incident in the First
World War where I believe it
was a US Marine force was
about to attack Belleau
Woods and the order was
whispered down the line, “send
for reinforcements, we’re
about to advance.” By the time
it got halfway down the line,
it was, “send two and four
pence, we’re going to a
dance.”
Skip:
uh-huh.
Omal:
so it is very easy to do.
Skip:
people do not repeat what they
hear, they repeat what they
think they heard.
Russ:
hmm.
Omal:
okay, let us progress, let us
answer more questions please.
Russ:
okay, you mentioned the photon
cloud and that's
something that we haven’t
really dealt with in a long
time but it’s something since
you brought it up, worthy
to explore just
a little bit.
Omal:
okay.
Russ:
at that time when we last
discussed it we were on the
fringes of it and it’s been
approximately about a year
since then that we discussed
it….
Omal:
uh-huh.
Russ:
and I’m curious as to how much
of that cloud are we starting
to really fully get into now?
Omal:
you’re starting to see more
denser patches, you’re still
certainly very much on the
fringe of it but it is
certainly more further in than
you were last year and
therefore like a cloud where
you first get into the fringes
and it is very light and wispy
and you can still see around
you, you’re now into patches
where it is more dense and you
cannot see out of but a few
moments pass and
you're into a more wispy area
progressing into a more denser
area.
Russ:
okay, as such, the results and
changes that might occur
because of this?
Omal:
I believe we covered them
pretty extensively when we
were discussing it about a
year ago when we initially
started discussing it.
Russ:
I was going to use it on
the website, I can’t remember
what I wrote down now.
Omal:
ahh, you do not have shall I
say long-term memory?
Russ:
I only have short-term memory.
(Skip
chuckles)
Omal:
ahh, I see humor going
backwards and forwards. Okay,
more questions please?
Skip:
yeah, yeah, yeah I have one.
We have destroyed or punched a
hole in our own ionosphere…..
Omal:
uh-huh.
Skip:
I've heard reports from
different sources within the
last six, eight months that
it’s slowly closing itself
back up, is this true?
Omal:
that is correct.
Skip:
okay, then that means that the
Freon
isn’t being discharged like it
was years ago?
Omal:
that is correct.
Skip:
okay, all right,
I just wanted to verify that.
Omal:
now something that I may add
to that is that the ozone does
regenerate itself. Ozone
at a lower level is a health
problem, high up
it is a protectorate. So the
ozone that you generate that
adds into such things as smog
is actual fact something that
is being generated and
repaired. However there is a
natural cycle involving the
hole in the ozone layer over
Antarctica, it
will decrease and increase.
For your species to be
concerned about it is very
wise to be concerned about it
however the knowledge that you
have of the natural cycle of
the hole in the ozone layer
over Antarctica only covers
maybe 30 years, 40 years at
most. So you really don’t know
the cycle and
the long-term effects that are
being attributed to the ozone
layer. Now too much ozone in
your atmosphere is again a
problem. Do you know what
happens if you
have too much ozone in your
upper atmosphere?
Skip:
it probably replaces the
oxygen.
Omal:
up at that altitude that is
not a
problem.
Skip:
oh okay.
Omal:
you do not go that high.
Skip:
okay.
Russ:
start
to block solar
radiation more?
Omal:
it does the opposite, it traps
it.
Russ:
hmm.
Skip:
oh, that’s why we’re getting
the UV rays heavier,
heavier.
Omal:
because it is again part of
the natural cycle.
Skip:
uh-hmm.
Omal:
it gets thicker and denser and
then it thins out and moves
around and there are quite a
few different things that go
on with the ozone layer that
you’re not fully aware of. As
I stated, you have at most 40
years worth of
knowledge on
what the ozone actually does.
Skip:
in other words, it acts like a
magnifier……excuse me, I didn’t
mean to…..
Omal:
oh certainly.
Skip:
it acts like a magnifier.
Omal:
in one way yes.
Skip:
huh,
okay that makes sense.
Omal:
just as you start to name
phenomena using Latin names, I
don’t mean you personally but
I mean your local scienity.
Such things as El Niño and La
Niña are pretty new terms in
your vocabulary that until
recently weren’t understood or
even named so
you had four dry
years of extremely dry weather
where you had a drought.
Conversely you had a number of
years where you had a wet
period and high precipitation.
These are not new phenomena,
they’re just old names being
revised to replace phenomena
that was, “okay it was a bad
winter, it was a good winter,
it was a dry winter, it was a
wet winter.” Now it is looked
upon as new terminology and
something worth
studying.
Russ:
hmm.
Skip:
inventing new words for old
terms.
Omal:
more old terms, the
El Niño and La Niña are terms
that were introduced by the
Hispanics when they came from
Spain into the new....what you
call the New World.
Skip:
uh-huh, we are the New World
yeah.
Omal:
so it is something that if you
were...if the indigenous
aboriginals of your area had
kept written
records of climate,
temperature, precipitation and
so on, you would see a very
distinct and definite pattern
after all. A lot of the
civilizations that have been
around, if their records had
survived, you would have two,
3,000 years worth
of records
which would give you a very
interesting pattern that would
be worth
studying and analyzing and
seeing the regular cycles.
Those cycles are not clockwork
regular but they are within
five years of a
cycle which over two to three
thousand years, is
fairly regular. Okay, any more
questions?
Russ:
uh-huh. Since
we’re on cycles, one
quick question on that is, are
we at the point of a
cycle where had we better
records we can keep more track
of this but through the
civilizations since the dawn
of man where social
phenomenon, I mean natural
phenomena set
off social pressures
that have either increased or
decreased the population’s
ability to deal with it where
you see civilizations go under
or build up due to
natural phenomenon and the
pressures held back by that.
Are we like unconsciously or subconsciously
feeling
those pressures again as the
cycle reaches its point?
Omal:
certainly, certainly. If you
had extensive records for the
last let us say 5,000 years of
natural events, space events,
solar events, you would see
that there is a definite cycle
and civilizations either
flourish or become extinct on
how they handle those events.
If you were to take something
like the events of Atlantis,
you would see that there are
certainly very interesting
cycles that a civilization if
it survives becomes much, much
stronger. Conversely, if the
civilization is hit by it and
is weakened,
eventually the civilization
fades away and becomes
extinct. They’re not just
natural phenomenon. If you
take for example the Incan
Empire, as soon as they had
contact with the Western world,
they had serious problems and
eventually it became an
extinct civilization.
Russ:
couldn’t handle the pressure.
Then what about with Rome with
like say Pompeii? Pompeii
happened just about the last
part of Rome.
Omal:
yes that certainly had an
interesting factor in it. It
happened in I
believe 75 A.D. which
definitely wasn’t the end of
Rome.
Russ:
right.
Omal:
Rome flourished for another
couple hundred years. The rot
that was causing the problem
for Rome had already started
at that point,
this
was
just a factor that occurred and
caused problems later on.
Certainly there were a number
of very prominent and
well-to-do individuals that
were caught in both the
catastrophe at Pompeii and
Herculaneum which did play a
part in the more widespread
corruption that developed
later on.
Russ:
hmm, okay. Well
done, thank you.
Thanks Omal.
Omal:
not a problem. No more
questions?
Skip:
no.......
Russ:
no.
Skip:
not for me, thank you.
Omal:
okay, live long, prosper and,
I will be back.
(Kiri takes over
as ring mistress.)
Russ:
definitely
worth studying,
phenomena what we do know of
from records that
have been discovered
and civilizations beginning or
ending shortly thereafter.
Skip:
well from what I understand is
astrologers that
are
studying these
stars
and what’s going on in the
universe are coming up
with a lot more
history than they have
before.
Russ:
hmmm, you mean like what place
where
the stars were
at when a
civilization was
rising or
falling?
Skip:
yes, yes, yes.
See
because some of the lights
from the stars are still there
even though
the star is gone
because it’s
millions and millions of
light-years away so the light
is still there but the star
could possibly be
gone.
Russ:
hmm, interesting.
Skip:
okay? So they're.......with
the
new computers and new
telescopes that
are being satellited,
they’re coming up with more
and more and more continuous.....it’s
amazing how much information
they're coming up with. I’m
sorry I didn’t mean to
interrupt.
Kiri:
oh that’s quite all right,
quite all right. Actually you
brought up a very good point
that I happen to have a little
bit of an interest in……you’re
going to love this one Russ.
There is a theory on your
planet that the pyramids are
obviously older than they
actually are and so is the
Sphinx.
Russ:
uh-huh.
Kiri:
this is because a theory is
going around from a tomb that
was discovered a little bit
earlier than the pyramids that
has a landscape picture of the
River Nile and overhead is in
alignment is
the
Magellan cloud.
Russ:
hmmm.
Kiri:
and within the picture of the
landscape is a construction, a
very early construction of a
great pyramid.
Russ:
great pyramid?
Kiri:
and……
Russ:
thought
it looked
almost like a swampy area too.
Kiri:
uh-huh.
Russ:
which is definitely not
holding up with when the
pyramids were said
to have been built which would be a
dry, deserty
area.
Kiri:
uh-huh and, if you do the
maths and run the
computer simulations which has
been done, you would find that
to have that exact alignment
of the Magellan cloud and
Orion....or what’s the......Osiris
are lined up in the
configuration that
they have it
would be much, much earlier
than previously thought,
considerably
earlier.
Russ:
well that would explain the
water runoff onto the Sphinx
which definitely points to a
much wetter
climate then when it was
built.
Kiri:
which puts it at current….
Russ:
or survived.
Kiri:
wait for the number……..puts
it current 12,000
years for that particular
alignment to have occurred.
Russ:
12,000 years BC?
Kiri:
now, from now.
Russ:
from now.
Kiri:
well from the eclipse.
Russ:
year 10,000.
Kiri:
10,000 BC.
Russ:
BC, 10,000 BC was
before any known civilization
was upon this planet.
Skip:
not anymore.
Kiri:
uh-uh, Skip’s
quite correct.
Skip:
not anymore.
Kiri:
they now have proof
that there was a civilization
in Egypt that was developed, very
developed 10,000 years ago.
Russ:
I hadn’t heard of that yet.
Skip:
didn’t they just find…..oh mercy…..I got
to stop and think,
didn’t
they just find a petrified
person that is 50,000 years
old at right at the present
and this was just
discovered less than a month
ago?
Kiri:
it is very possible that they
have discovered another one.
There was the famous gentlemen
discovered in the Alps that
was estimated to be 8,000 and
had a very extensive herbal
knowledge.
Russ:
hmmm.
Skip:
hmmm.
Kiri:
but that was quite a few years
ago.
Russ:
50,000, that puts it……
Skip:
that puts it way back there.
Russ:
so that puts it back at
Atlantis.
Kiri:
uh-huh.
Skip:
pretty close to it, yeah.
Russ:
which would be…..that wouldn't
be an Atlantian, that would be
an
indigenous species of
the planet at that point.
Skip:
yeah because that wasn’t
discovered on the coast, any
of the coasts, it was
discovered inland and
I
think if I’m not mistaken, it
was
discovered in North America in
Canada.
Russ:
well 50,000 years ago, North
America was much different
than it is now.
Skip:
well yeah.
Kiri:
there was a land bridge.
Skip:
there was no Atlantic.
Russ:
oh yeah there was.
Skip:
no there wasn’t.
Russ:
10,000 years ago? Sure there
was.
Skip:
it was part of Europe.
Russ:
no it wasn’t Pangaea, Pangaea
broke up 50 million years ago.
Skip:
okay.
Kiri:
oh a lot longer ago than that.
Skip:
okay.
Kiri:
okay,
let us see what mischief we
can create. Okay, spirituality,
where
were we last time we talked? We
were dealing with the
spiritual side of guides
and the development of the
gentle prodding,
the gentle directional control.
The slow, gentle
guiding
hence the term
guides,
ability of a
guide.
Okay,
now
having talked to my
grandmother and she again is
very hesitant and reticent to
give us any definite yes or no's
because of the nature of her
monastic life and
the nature of the business
that she’s in or as she put
it, the nature of the beast,
there are certain things that
she obviously would not
disclose to us.
(Kiri
and Karra's grandmother is a
nun high up in the mountains
of Sirius and communicates
with guides and those on
the other
side as
needed)
Kiri:
but
guides
seem to serve more than just
coaxing and pointing and
advising and prodding for
action or a particular pathway,
there
is almost a symbiotic
relationship between the host
or the guidee from
the guide. But yes, one does
need the other, it is a mutual
symbiotic relationship that
both have. Certainly there are
times where a guide will gain
as much knowledge and
experience from
one individual and move on to
another or where an individual
no longer is cooperative
or manipulative to
the actions of a
guide. There has to be a
certain amount of
similarity and personal
behaviors between the guide
and the guidee.
This is because if you have
two totally, radically,
different personalities, they
cannot work together for a
mutual beneficial advancement.
So that a
guide that is temporally there
is
an antagonistic influence is
there purely to push somebody
in an
opposite direction at the
request of another guide so
that the antagonistic nature
forces the person to go in the
direction that the guide that
is more permanent wishes that
individual to go by using the
antagonistic attitude of a
guide that has a more opposite
attitude and persona than
the person being guided. I can
see that's opened
up a can of worms.
Skip:
yeah.
Kiri:
okay…..
Russ:
is signs of guiding others in
our physical world a sign that
we’ll be a good guide or a
guide in our afterlife?
Kiri:
not necessarily, not
necessarily. Sometimes guides
are purely working with just
the living, that is all they
are interested in, that is all
that they need to learn. There
are guides that as you
progress and become older are
more both. So it really
depends on the individual.
There
are incidences where guides
will hand over at the point of
departure from one group of
guides to another group of
guides but a majority of it is
as you progress later into
life you have guides that are
there for the crossover, for
the departure.
Russ:
I don’t think I got that
question right, maybe reword
it maybe. If for example I
like working with someone in
like a school kid or something
for example……
Kiri:
uh-huh.
Russ:
I want to help them out to
learn how to become a better
adult and so on and so forth or
I go to retirement homes and
help out the elderly
and maybe teach them various
skills like computers or
something like that,
is
this a sign that when I die, I
would naturally progress
toward being a guide for
someone who is living?
Kiri:
not necessarily, not
necessarily. You could be
setting yourself up for
that certainly but there again
you can also be equally be
giving a gift of knowledge.
Russ:
like the pilot part that we
were discussing.
Kiri:
uh-huh but actually doing it
physically.
Russ:
hmm.
Kiri:
whilst
being able to do it more
strongly than if you were
in a guiding capacity.
Russ:
I
see.
Kiri:
oh I got to
watch both of those,
the
one
about the World
War II pilot and…..
('A
Guy Named Joe')
Russ:
oh, oh, oh, 'Always'
and
the whatever one
Mark was talking about….
Kiri:
yeah I got to watch both of
them.
Russ:
how did you like 'Always'?
Kiri:
it was okay, I like the one a
little better.
Russ:
really?
Kiri:
uh-huh.
Russ:
hmm, I haven’t seen of other
one so I can't tell you.
Kiri:
it has more meaning, it’s more
out to save a
life.
Russ:
oh, I really like Richard
Dreyfuss so....
Kiri:
uh-huh, I thought he was funny
but it’s a little bit
confusing in spots how they
portray the guide
of a guide.
Russ:
oh you mean....yeah
what's that lady’s
name where?....yeah
right, I got it.
Kiri:
uh-huh, the time, it
gives a distortion of
time.
Russ:
right.
Russ:
and as such we don’t really
have much of that concept to
look back on our history like
when we talk about the
pyramids being built at an
earlier age and
such....
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ:
we have no way how
to really grasp how
many tens of thousands of
years have passed since even
the earliest known parts of
Egypt.
Kiri:
uh-huh.
Skip:
yeah.
Russ:
even
the pharaohs,
the pharaohs whole
time
period, incomprehensible
for us to really even grasp
much less you even
try to shoot for
the dinosaurs.
Kiri:
yeah.
Skip:
well what do
they figure, 5,000 years? For
the Pharaohs?
Russ:
yeah.
Skip:
some 5,000 years?
Russ:
right.
For
me, I can’t think that far
back but yet
here were talking about
instances in civilizations
rising up 10,000 years ago
which is twice
that.
Kiri:
uh-huh.
Russ:
I can’t grasp that kind of
time span.
Kiri:
well the thing is that when
you don’t have the long life
expectancy, yeah a hundred
years is a long time,
a
1,000 years is a hell of a
long time. For
us, that's like 10,000 years.
To
look back on a race that is
10,000 years old, that is a
long time for us. A 1,000
years, the average life
expectancy is somewhere
between 850 to 900 years,
that’s a long time for you,
for
us, it’s a lifetime.
Skip:
yeah, for us it’s
incomprehensible.
Russ:
yeah, we can’t think that far.
Skip:
we can’t think that far
because we’re talking about
our lifespan is one
tenth of that amount.
Kiri:
uh-huh.
Russ:
we're like candles burning
brightly.
Skip:
and they go out quicker.
Russ:
and they go out quicker.
Kiri:
which yeah brings us back to
the Sirian problem of the
dwelling, the thinking because
we do have the time and to us
time is a concept of, "well,
we've got between
850 to 900 years, no hurry, why
hurry?" And
that takes that in itself is a
problem whereas for you the
other problem is that you
don’t have enough time to achieve
everything.
Skip:
we're
racing around to get it done.
Kiri:
uh-huh, which is something
that happens to us later in
life when we realize that time
is starting to run short. Yeah,
by
being a race that is known
for its dwelling and
contemplating, it’s certainly
been a problem for us. It’s
something that until I think
we as a race
address that problem, we won’t
progress higher. That for us is
our learning lesson in the
sixth dimension whereas yours
is learning to be spiritually
active in a
third dimension,
the
sixth dimension is definitely
learning to realize that there
is a time where you do have to
hurry and a time where you
don’t have to hurry
or
it is a matter of finding that
equal balance whereas for you,
you don’t have that 850,
900 years leeway time,
you
have at most maybe a 100
hundred, a 110 years.
Russ:
that’s what I like about these
channeling sessions, is that
we're both helping each other
grasp
those
concepts because we're in so much
interaction we're
working
with here
plus our
twin soul mind linkup that
we have of course helps us
immensely.
Kiri:
oh immensely
yes but for us our
guides are just as aware of
the time difference and
the dwelling difference.
For
us they are of
a much higher frequency
than are for you. So that the
development is very different
for our
guides as opposed to your
guides.
Russ:
hmm.
Kiri:
now if you take somebody that
lives in the now, in the
moment, take for example Sarah.
She lived very much once
she was free and realized what
was going on, she lived in the
now. She knew there was the
possibility of
no tomorrow and
the past had been
so radically altered and
changed for her, that it was
very difficult for her to look
to the future so she lived in
the now. One of the problems
that if you look at people of
great age in our planet and on
your planet, let me take a
couple steps backwards here
for a second. First of all, a
new child or a child lives in
the tomorrow, always in the
tomorrow. There is no past for
a child, everything that has
happened in the past is
hearsay for that child so it
lives in the now and
the tomorrow. As you
get older, there is a past so
you draw a little bit in
the past of the good old days
or, "remember when we were
younger, remember this?" But you
also live in the now and
the future because tomorrow
you have to get up and go to
work and take care of the necessary
needs for tomorrow. But as you
get progressively older, it
becomes more of the past than
the future and the now until
finally and especially if you
have a life expectancy of a
race such as ours,
you dwell a lot in
the past. If you take somebody
such as our sleeping tree, (Treebeard) he lives a lot
in the past but still has the
one important thing that keeps
him going of the quest for
knowledge.
Skip:
uh-huh.
Kiri:
I mean there is more of
yesterday for him then there
is of tomorrow.
Skip:
I think that same thing holds
true with our 3-D existence.
Kiri:
oh yes, very much so, I……
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