FLIGHT TRAINING AND FLOWERS 07/09/96

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Archivist Notes: As the name suggests, this month is all about flight and flowers. Flight of either the mind, air or space and flowers found only on Sirius. Tia is first up with the flights of the mind as she gives a very detailed dissertation on Astral projection. She provides not only the various types but also the levels of astral projection. Omal wraps up side two going over flight of both air and space as he discusses the various versions of the flying wing before a fascinating talk on the UFO's that were captured that may have led to its design.

    Kiri gets side two off to a rousing start with a categorical description on the three types of flowers found only on Sirius and their effects.That leads into her topic on some of meditation techniques used on Sirius. Karra follows her sister with answering questions concerning magnets, crystals and their use in healing on the base. Tia finishes the session with a hilarious Abbot and Costello routine we all wittingly or unwittingly performed. One thing of note, the session referred to from time to time is known as "Girl's Night Out" which may never be added to the net due to the lack of any useful conversation and explicit nature.

SPEAKERS
ATTENDEES
TIA Ring Mistress MARK (Channel)
OMAL RUSS
KIRI JOHN
KARRA


SIDE 1

SIDE 2

2.)(19:55)- Karra goes over the relationship between crystals and magnets and how they use them in healing on the base.

3.)(34:43)- Tia completes the channeling session with the Abbot and Costello routine of "Who's on First?"

Part 1 Listen to this episode (RIGHT CLICK AND OPEN IN A NEW TAB)
Duration: 47.10 min. - Filetype: mp3
Part 2 Listen to this episode (RIGHT CLICK AND OPEN IN A NEW TAB)
Duration: 43.18 min. - Filetype: mp3


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SIDE ONE

(Tia starts the channeling session off.)

Tia: hello, greetings.

(Starts in a long conversation with a cat.)

Russ: okay, everything checks. A
lright, ready to rock and roll.
 
(Tia continues her conversation with the cat.)

Tia: what does the chronometer say?

Russ: 8:41.

Tia: 8:41. Okay, you want to pause that? I have a mission, I have a mission.

Russ: okay.

Tia: okay we're back on the air and she wasn't there.

Russ: bummer.

Tia: sorry?

Russ: I said bummer.

Tia: okay, down to business.

Russ: okay. All right darling, I've got to work on Tia's tips.

Tia: Tia's tips on astral travel.

Russ: I'd like to get something on this one. I want to put a couple of sections in. One from the other night that I'm working on right now and one from maybe tonight.

Tia: uh-huh, well there's also some that Mark e-mailed to you or I e-mailed to you.

Russ: uh-huh.

Tia: you have that still?

Russ: I've got it all. I've got it, I haven't got it online yet.

Tia: okay. You're probably.......you're going to have to rearrange the wording slightly.

Russ: I usually do.

Tia: because I mean it's you know 90% me through Mark but Mark was totally conscious whilst we were doing it so there's probably spelling because I was dictating to him fast and he would go "whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa....slow down, slow down, slow down, in English please, in English please."

Russ: why didn't you just record it?

Tia: sorry?

Russ: should have just recorded it.

Tia: recorded it where?

Russ: on a tape recorder.

Tia: well it's easier for you. All's you have to do is transpose it from one place to another. You just take that and email it to.......

Russ: Adam?

Tia: yeah.

Russ: yeah.

Tia: you know, correct the spelling and put it more in line.....what's the word? Add in the grammatical phrasing and everything and probably turn some of it around. Take out a line, put it somewhere else because I'm pretty sure that Mark doing dictation isn't as fast as or as good as if I was typing it. But there again, English isn't one of my stronger suits writing.

Russ: that's true. Well I did get Kiri and Karra's online.

Tia: oh but you haven't got me.

Russ: no, you're on there.

Tia: but you haven't got......you've only got my bio.

Russ: bio yeah, that's all I've got for them too.

Tia: oh. But yet you've got Taal down.

Russ: well Taal and Omal were the first ones on the tape.

Tia: oh.

Russ: there's just you saying "okay, well I'm going to put on the first speaker right now." And then there is you going, "okay, here's the next speaker now." There is not a lot that really fits in as big subject matter there. And I mean you didn't really talk a whole lot that session. You know we didn't really get into long conversations I don't think.

Tia: why? Was there somebody else here talking as well?

Russ: no, we had Kiri and....

Tia: no I mean down there.

Russ: where?

Tia: where you are. As opposed to me being up here, was there somebody else in the room?

Russ: no.

Tia: oh, it was just you and us?

Russ: yeah, me and you guys.

Tia: I thought maybe Johnny might have been present or.....

Russ: no, this is the one that we did upstairs in the room.

Tia: oh, that one when Sandy was here.

Russ: no, this was the week after I think.

Tia: ahhh.

Russ: because this is Project Haarp. Remember the one where we were working on project Haarp and Taal came in?

Tia: oh yes.

Russ: I can't remember, you remember that probably better than I do. Did you spend much time talking on that one?

Tia: no, not that much because it was a very crammed session.

Russ: yeah because I spent a lot of time with Omal on that. So far I've only got through one section.

Tia: I think I'm on more towards the end.

Russ: yeah, that probably wasn't stuff we can really work with. But anyway, if we can get something tonight, then we'll go ahead and we'll add.......I can add that on.

Tia: oh that's the session, when Katrina.......when Taal left and Katrina was still around.

Russ: oh that's right, yeah there is not a lot of workable stuff on that one.

Tia: no.

Russ: okay.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: well let's put some workable stuff on tonight's session.

Tia: okay, astral travel.

Russ: okay.

Tia: okay, let us look closely at the various types of astral travel. There is dream travel, which is the most common of all types of astral travel. Most people at some time in their life experience astral travel in a dream form. There is the second type, involuntary astral travel. This occurs when somebody is not feeling at their peak and they wish to escape whatever ailment that they have. And some times whilst lying in certain environments, for example a warm sunny area that is comfortable they will feel their body floating up above their physical body and this is the second type of astral travel as I said, involuntary astral travel. Okay, the third type of astral travel is.....would be better to call it more along the lines of remote viewing. This is where you almost leave your body and yet you're still connected and you stretch out over a long distance or a short distance even and you are able to view what you are looking at but yet also hear the noises from the surrounding area of your physical body. You can also answer questions in this state. This state is quite easy because all's you do is achieve a meditational state where you are still conscious but yet you are also disconnected from your physical body. Okay, the fourth type of astral travel is where you actually, physically leave your body. You are aware of your body, you are aware of noises but they are more remote and distant like a noise coming from a great distance. This is one of the more harder types of astral travel to do because it involves consciously programming your destination on where you wish to go whilst still leaving your body and being aware of your body. This is the type of astral travel that novices use. As I said, it is one of the more difficult types but it is also quite easy to do because it is a programmed thought process that you go through whilst meditating. Okay the next type of astral travel or astral travel type five is where you physically leave your body in the astral form, you are no longer conscious of your body, it no longer matters. This normally comes after a lot of practice and experience as an astral traveler. I myself use this method. This method involves shutting down all unnecessary functions of the body which also includes hearing, taste, smell and touch. You are no longer aware of your surroundings. You are free to astral travel to wherever you wish as far as your stamina will take you. Finally, type six astral travel. This is where you travel as I described in type five but you also manipulate not only the third dimension so you can travel but the fourth dimension and other dimensions. This is one the most hardest types of astral travel to do. Now of these various categories, there are sub-types. Involuntary dream travel, that is also very common. Voluntary astral travel in an involuntary status. What I mean by that is astral traveling and desiring to do so but achieving it without desire. There are also other numerous sub-types of astral travel as I have mentioned. These are just a few of the types of astral travel as opposed to the sub-types of astral travel. Now, there is another sub-type of astral travel which is where you are no longer conscious of your body, your body has been as you might say parked into a level of awareness where it is not aware of its physical surroundings. This again is a very hard type of astral travel that I'm about to describe and this is where you leave your body but you assume a physical form in the physical world but in the astral form. Sometimes you are actually visible to other people but more frequently you are not. Individuals that are trained astral travelers in this can also detect other astral travelers that are in this status. For example, the Dalai Lama, he can see those people that are astral traveling in that form or most forms come to that. There is another lama high up in the Himalayas that frequently has visitors from all over the world. Okay, now do you have questions Russell?

Russ: yeah, we'll go it from the last part forward. And that is first off, how do you train yourself to be able see other people astral projecting like the Dalai Lama and the other lama?

Tia: that comes from actually achieving their level of awareness. That they are master astral travelers themselves and therefore they know what to look for, they know the feeling of somebody.

Russ: well for example, what about Mark? Would he he able to do the same thing?

Tia: I think if he thought about it and practiced, I mean he can sense me when I'm around.

Russ: yeah but he can't see you or hear you.

Tia: I don't think he desires to. It's just is the fact that I'm bouncing around and nine times out of ten, I want to see what he's doing. For example, he could be washing the dishes.

Russ: hmmm, okay well what I'm thinking is that this is a very useful skill.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: that would come in handy in emergencies or something else and would it be wise to pursue this at all?

Tia: for what purpose?

Russ: well for example, if you needed to warn somebody about something, I mean you and Mark wouldn't matter because you could just talk to him.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: but like another astral traveler, the person would have to be good as Mark right?

Tia: yes.

Russ: we won't find that. Okay, the next question I've got is, what about the kind of astral travel which I believe goes into category five in which somebody is in an accident.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: and they leave their body and have no sense of it?

Tia: no that comes under involuntary astral travel. It is one of the sub-types.

Russ: that they wish to be gone from their body.

Tia: yes it is a trauma induced astral travel.

Russ: okay, then what about when somebody's working with fasting or something?

Tia: again, that is a trauma induced astral travel because your body no longer has the necessary sugar levels or iron levels or any of the particular levels that it is used to, it is induced into an astral travel state.

Russ: hmmm. Okay, I can see where that would be more harmful then.

Tia: that's correct, it is trauma induced astral travel.

Russ: right.

Tia: trauma to me is a big wide field. I bite Mark's finger, guess what I've just done?

Russ: what?

Tia: I've induced trauma to it.

Russ: oh I see.

Tia: I stand up, I throw Mark's body down on the ground, I break a leg, I've induced trauma. Or I accidentally step on a piece of metal and it penetrates the skin and there is a little pinprick of blood that comes out, I've induced trauma. It is a big wide area for me. I know trauma is most frequently associated with some kind of massive accident.

Russ: right. Okay, when a person wishes to appear somewhere else in the physical form, this is known as D jumping correct?

Tia: kind of, kind of. D jumping is where you actually strip down your whole entire physical third dimensional being, bones, blood, all the way down to the molecular level and then you translate it to somewhere else.

Russ: okay.

Tia: you translate it and rotate it to a different point of origin or goal.

Russ: ahh I see.

Tia: like a teleport. Are you going to put down when I talk about trauma the fact that I actually bite Mark's finger and pull off a piece of skin?

Russ: yeah.

Tia: okay.

Russ: I'll put it in parentheses.

Tia: yeah, but getting back to D jumping, D jumping as I said is like teleporting. That you take down your physical form, break it down to a molecular level and then relocate it elsewhere.

Russ: now a lot of people find that there is something inherently scary about astral travel in the fact that you have the possibility of leaving your body behind. I've heard this before......

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: where they're worried they might not be able to come back or they can get sick from it or they can be possessed, how do you answer these questions?

Tia: I answer them by saying they are all possible however, the chances of your body being possessed depends on where and how far advanced you are in astral travel. Most possessions occur with a experienced astral traveler but yet has become lax, has got himself involved or herself involved in things that are best not to be involved in therefore their body becomes a gateway. Getting lost from one's body, yes that can happen and that normally happens to novice astral travelers but it is not a permanent condition. They may lose their body and can't figure out how to get back and by wandering around, they will find their body or they will find somebody that guides them back. As somebody that may possess, there are also people that protect and will guide astral forms back to their point of origin. What was the last question?

Russ: sicken and die.

Tia: sicken and die, again it is possible to pick up sicknesses but this is because the astral traveler does not take care of their body in advance and this is easily remedied by getting enough sleep, eating the correct diets and taking precautions before and after. Some of the precautions that are useful to take before for a novice astral traveler is maybe a shower, a warm shower so that your body is perfectly clean and again when you return, you would wash your body to wash all the negative energy that you might've picked up away. Also being totally relaxed and totally energized. If you have a low level of energy, you are certainly going to lower your immune levels and astral traveling does drain the physical body as well as the astral body of energy. If you reach a point where you are very low on energy and you're astral traveling, it lowers your immune system in your physical body and again you can pick up ailments. But this could be cured as I said quite easily by getting the correct amount of sleep, showering, eating correctly and behaving in a way that induces a relaxed status and yet helps to energize the body.

Russ: hmm okay. Now is there anything that you should do concerning the use of shields in your practice of astral travel?

Tia: not really to start off with, once you get into the higher levels of astral travel, then shielding does play a part in your physical......no, your astral form. Let me explain the levels of astral travel. There is obviously novice, very little experience on astral travel. Adept, which has some experience and tends to astral travel in a localized area of up to about 300 miles. Adept, somebody that is quite experienced in astral travel and can travel maybe a 1,000, 2,000 mile radius in astral travel. Master, this is somebody that can astral travel and go
explanatory but not very far, maybe as far as your moon. Also they have lots of stamina and are quite experienced at astral traveling. Normally this comes after about five years. Grand Master. These are the bad asses of the astral travel world and I mean that in a positive way. They are like, how would you describe it? They're good. They can go explanatory, distance for them starts to become irrelevant. Two, three light years, that's like getting up and walking across the room for them. 10, 20 light years, that's like walking down to the end of the street. 50, a hundred light years, now we're getting into this serious range for them. They do that on a regular basis or can do it on a regular basis. They can also, some of them who are border point to the next level actually transpose to different dimensions. Okay, the last level, Paramount Grand Masters. These are the elite, the best and I estimate that there's probably no more than maybe 50 on your whole entire planet if that many and I have just been corrected, it is more like a dozen on your planet and these are the real heavy dudes. Very serious, distance totally irrelevant. Walk across the galaxy, no problem. Walk to the next next galaxy, no problem. To the next galaxy, now you're starting to stretch a little bit but they can do it. They can dimension jump to different dimensions. Fourth, fifth, sixth dimension is a bit of a workout for them but it doesn't present too much of a problem. These are the individuals that have a 50 to 60% chance of ascending to the next level in evolution. These are the individuals that can be a little bit on the strange side. They can be very cranky, they can be very arrogant, they can be very nice, very mellow, very relaxed, very helpful, very protective all at same time almost. This is because they are developing to a higher level. (One of the house cats interrupts the session.) She wants to know where her cubs are. These Paramount Grand Masters are the individuals that as I said can be very protective. Not only of themselves but of their knowledge and the people around them. They are capable of all levels of astral travel. From remote viewing, to dimension jumping, to traveling great distances, they also have a lot of curiosity.

Russ: hmm, are there any that we would know from public life like for example the Dalai Lama?

Tia: yes.

Russ: he would be one?

Tia: he is a border point Paramount Grand Master or he could be a Grand Master.

Russ: okay but we don't know any Paramount Grand Master's in the public life?

Tia: no.

Russ: and they stay to themselves. I mean what kind of life would they be living? Austere and away from everybody?

Tia: eccentric.

Russ: oh eccentric.

Tia: uh-hmm. You see Mark is almost a Paramount Grand Master.

Russ: hmm.

Tia: almost.

Russ: yeah, his distance still needs some work.

Tia: uh-huh. But also the other part of a Paramount Grand Master is the speed of thought. They can travel to anywhere, anytime, anyplace just by thinking about it. Closing their eyes, sit down, relax, think of where they want to go, bang! They're there.

Russ: and what about their body here?

Tia: their body here works fine on its own.

Russ: okay. Now another question I have is, for a Grand Master or Paramount Grand Master or even a master....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: what about when they're doing long-distance trips or any trip of any duration whatsoever. Does their body......is it able to rejuvenate while they are out of it?

Tia: no.

Russ: so they live a shorter lifetime then?

Tia: not necessarily, not necessarily. Some of them inherently have a long life expectancy.

Russ: yes but if their body's not rejuvenating itself and let's say they're not taking really good care of it?

Tia: normally, if they're not taking real good care of themselves, they do burn incredibly bright.

Russ: okay. So just for a warning for people to keep their health a priority.

Tia: yeah or at least to keep active enough to keep their body ticking along nicely.

Russ: ahh, I see. Okay well that should do it for now then.

Tia: okay.

(Says goodbye in Durondedunn.)

Russ: bye love.

(Says something else in Durondedunn.)

Tia: oh you better put parentheses in on that that "Foawer"
means goodbye.

Russ: I don't know even how to spell it darling.

Tia: Freaaaaooow but quickly.

Russ: yeah........f.r.o.w.f.e.r?

Tia: f.o.a.w.e.r?

Russ: fower..okay well.

Tia: well you work it out.

Russ: I'll work it out.




(Omal joins the session next.)

Omal: greetings and felicitations Russ and how are you functioning?

Russ: greetings Omal, oh quite well. Working hard and I'm afraid that Durondedunn loses a bit in the spelling translation when you get down to it.

Omal: yes I imagine it would.

Russ: in fact many of the languages I'm sure from like Sirian all the way to Durondedunn is little tough to translate into our English spelling alphabet since I'm sure they don't include the same letters.

Omal: I am quite sure that they do not also. Okay, let us proceed.

Russ: all righty.

Omal: notes from the commander's desk.

Russ: (chuckles.) currently I just sent off all the stuff we did on Tesla and the Tunguska explosion.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and that's just the first section.

Omal: okay.

Russ: because that took up four pages alone. I haven't even gotten yet to Project Haarp and the Montauk and all that stuff that came on after that.

Omal: okay.

Russ: this is a chore. What I'll do is I'll have two different sections and dated for the same day.

Omal: okay.

Russ: I'll put the end of the Tunguska that this ends this section. For more conversations after this, look for subjects that are dated the same day.

Omal: okay. Also, as was stated in the past, you might want to get somebody type it up for you that is a quicker typist.

Russ: yeah that would be a good idea but then we come the problem of who.

Omal: who, yes who?

Russ: that might be little bit tricky and cost some money I think. Well we'll work on that. Okay, at present I am currently working on some past UFO discoveries leading to present day technological advances.

Omal: okay.

Russ: and what I'm looking at is something called the YB-49.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: developed by a gentleman named Northrup.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: back...and it lasted from 1948 to 1952.

Omal: would that be the flying wing?

Russ: that would be the first prototype of the flying wing

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and it is closely linked date wise....(John walks in.) hey Johnny.

John: hey guys.

Russ: Omal's here.

John: yeah.

Russ: and geography wise to the recovery of the Roswell saucer.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: I believe the Roswell saucer was recovered in '48?

Omal: correct.

Russ: and then all of a sudden you see this flying wing being attempted to be created.

Omal: actually the flying wing does go back a little bit earlier.

Russ: hmm.

Omal: it was a design that was designed towards the end of your second great planetary war. There is a very easy way to find out more about this. Mark has an assignment.

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: watch Weekday Wings for Northrop's flying wing.

Russ: oh okay. That will give us some more information.

Omal: more than you wish for.

Russ: I'm sure. Well the original, the YB-49 turned out to be the B-47.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: the YB-49 was just a few prototypes that never really worked as where the B-47 flying wing, turned out two thousand of them. That generally in turn......because that was a radical departure from typical aircraft design at that point.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and that led to the B-2 and the B-2 became successful compared to the original flying wings due to the fact that all of a sudden the computer technology advanced to a level where it could be mounted into a plane.

Omal: correct and also the engine capacity. The original flying wing was designed for...

Russ: propellers.

Omal: correct, piston engines.

Russ: right.

Omal: they added in, big mistake, they added in turbo engines. When you mix turbos from a design that is for piston, you do not take into the fact that it is a different type of engine that has a different type of effect on the fuselage and the wing surface and the necessary lift generating factors. They then added in also jet engines so that you had a mishmash of technologies, a fuselage and body that was designed for piston with turbines and also jet engines. Does not work. If they had designed it originally for jet engines that were powerful enough, then they would not have had the problems that they had and they would have had a functional aircraft.

Russ: so essentially it was a design problem with the fact that the propellers turning causes the plane to want to twist.

Omal: no. No, not quite. Let me reexplain what I said. The technology for the original flying wing was designed for piston engines. When they put turbines on, it changes the flight characteristics of the wing. When you add jets into the equation that have a different turbulence factor, you again change the equation.

Russ: hmm.

Omal: so you take a design of an aircraft that is designed for one type of engine and you mount in a totally different type of engine so therefore the effect is very different.

Russ: I see. A computer game that came out a few years back called "Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe?"

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: showed a jet powered flying wing.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: now was this something that was actually on the design table of the Luftwaffe?

Omal: correct.

Russ: ahh, and what happened as far as that? War came to an end too soon?

Omal: correct.

Russ: hmm.

Omal: also if you look at this latest reusable shuttle and also look at the "Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe".....

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: you will find it there. Slightly different but you will find it there. If you look at the European Apace Agency's current reusable design that they're working on, guess what?

Russ: it looks the same. So this is basically close to a 50-year-old design.

Omal: try closer to 60.

Russ: okay. 60-year-old design being brought into a fact where now with all our technology and advancements, we're able to finally make it a reality.

Omal: despite all the corruption and twistedness of the uses of the technology, the Third Reich was quite advanced. They ranged from 10 to 50 years ahead of their time.

Russ: hmm.

Omal: or is it, little question here, is it the fact that everybody was 50 years behind them? Were they ahead or everybody else behind? It is not the same.

Russ: does this mean that possibly then they were visionaries?

Omal: I never said that.

Russ: no I know. We just were keeping ourselves from advancing at a pace that we should of been and they just went ahead and advanced at a pace much faster.

Omal: it is a matter of semantics......

Russ: right.

Omal: I am leaving it open for debate.

Russ: oh I see. Ashtar is on the base right now isn't he?

Omal: correct.

Russ: has he heard about our current....?

Omal: yes he has.

Russ: and how does he feel about it?

Omal: I have not discussed it with him yet.

Russ: okay.

Omal: he has been on and off the base for the past week.

Russ: oh okay. Well at some point in the future I would like to hopefully get him as a guest speaker we could add in.

Omal: I will see if I can arrange it but I must point out that Ashtar is a busy individual.

Russ: understandable. If nothing else, I can always take it from the archives.

Omal: correct.

Russ: I've got plenty of stuff we've already had from him.

Omal: yes.

Russ: okay. Now then, a few UFO projects that I've been studying which takes us back to where we started from is Project Bluebird. (Project Blue Book.)

Omal: ah-hah, yes. I did receive a report from one of my data analysts.

Russ: Project Bluebird originally was designed to be able to not just reverse engineer any captured extraterrestrial design but to actually go ahead and fly those designs.

Omal: uh-huh. Okay I received an interesting report on my desk from an individual that went and saw a movie called "ID-4". (Independence Day with Will Smith.)

Russ: oh, I haven't even seen that.

Omal: her report is that there are numerous scenes and references to an area which supposedly does not exist called Area 51.......

Russ: hmm.

Omal: where they go in and they come across a vessel that was found in 1948, they refurbish it and they use it to defeat the invaders.

Russ: ahhh. Okay so this ties very closely on what my question at that point.

Omal: correct.

Russ: okay why all of a sudden would a movie come out with this particular scenario built in? It seems very timely.

Omal: uh-huh. Might I make a suggestion?

Russ: sure.

Omal: it would be useful for both of you to go and see it.

Russ: I agree, I agree, how about we work on it for tomorrow? I can get us in. I going to have to pay for us to get in.

Omal: what is wrong with the 9 o'clock?

Russ: sold out. They're all sold out.

Omal: ahhh.

Russ: every day it's been showing it's been sold out.

Omal: what about the unit from the projection room? (Due to my being a manger a theater of the same chain.)

Russ: you don't get the same effect.

Omal: hmmm.

Russ: possibly I might be able to get a private showing arranged but that might take a little bit of work. One of the things about this is that okay we have a movie in which aliens invade Earth, we find Project Bluebird in fictional reality......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and it's probably one of the most popular movies to come out in a decade.

Omal: but sadly it predicts, portrays aliens in a negative light. Not all aliens are like that.

Russ: agreed. Well that's why we're starting this webpage so that we can make sure that at least truth is known.

Omal: yes, you may want to highlight the fact that I said that not all aliens are like that. Certainly there are aliens out there but there are also aliens out there that die protecting you.

Russ: uh-huh. Hmm, which takes me to my next question, South Africa.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: 19........I don't have the date down here.......1989 if I remember correctly.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: in which a ship coming into South Africa....

Omal: is tracked and....

Russ: supposedly shot down by a experimental laser cannon from a Mirage jet fighter.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and what we've been able to determine through the help of Tia....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: is that there was actually a ship shot down by an unseen vessel above it.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and that the use of the laser cannon is possibly disinformation.

Omal: no it is what they believe actually happened, they believe it worked.

Russ: you mean they had a laser cannon?

Omal: it was a very weak laser cannon.....

Russ: oh.

Omal: by standards but very powerful by other standards. It fires a pulse of light energy at a designated target.

Russ: that's pretty far advanced then compared to what I've heard of before. The most we've heard of is that they are using lasers for targeting systems but not for anything destructive.

Omal: you're not listening hard enough.

Russ: obviously not.

Omal: they have lasers that are quite capable of cutting through an inch of solid steel.

Russ: I knew this but I mean still we're talking about from a flying object at a long distance to make an accurate shot and actually bring something down.

Omal: that is why they believed that it worked. The fact is that they probably missed the target.

Russ: well all they saw, according to the report I saw was.....

Omal: was a flash of light come from it....

Russ: a flash of light coming from it and suddenly it started to waver. In fact no, it was a series of flashes of lights and it started to waver and then went down at 3,000 ft. per minute.

Omal: that is not particularly fast.

Russ: no and then impacted into the desert. Now from that point, they brought the ship to a secret Air Force Base.

Omal: yes near Kimberly.

Russ: uh-huh, and the door started to open on the craft and then they used heavy lifting machinery to pry it open the rest of the way. Two aliens then got out, quite hostile and they were promptly arrested according to this report. And then ship, crew and everything got shipped off to Wright-Patterson....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and that's the last we hear of it but apparently the aliens were alive.......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: typical gray beings with the small statures, three clawed feet and hands or three fingered or three toed.

Omal: and the attitude.

Russ: and the attitude of they hate everyone. They clawed up some doctor pretty bad.

Omal: well how would you feel in that situation?

Russ: well I'd be pretty pissed.

Omal: so do not mistake them being upset for being hostile.

Russ: well that's just what the report said.

Omal: correct.

Russ: now what would aliens from another world taken prisoner have as a future to look forward to?

Omal: it is best not to discuss it. Even for any race, no matter how hostile, it is not a very good prospect.

Russ: I agree.

Omal: the only thing that they can wish for is either a quick, painless death or rescue. The others do not leave much in the way of hope.

Russ: well since they can't be beamed out, I don't see much in the way of hope for rescue but would you hypothesize then that the ship shooting them down....

Omal: I do not hypothesize, I only go on fact.

Russ: okay, do you think the facts support that the ship shooting them down knew that they would be surviving the crash and aim for a particular point on the craft that they would?

Omal: anything that I say would be conjecture. I cannot answer that question.

Russ: all right, fair enough. Johnny, you got anything, I'm taking up all the questions tonight?

John: well yeah I just kind of popped in. Just as far as, especially on the webpage as far as terminology, instead of using the word alien especially when we're referring to extraterrestrial....

Omal: yes I understand exactly what you're saying.

John: a lot more correct?

Omal: you are quite correct in what you're saying. Is a common terminology that is used by lots of individuals all over your planet. It is something that we grin and bear. How much we dislike it is irrelevant, it is what is easiest for them to understand sadly to say.

Russ: easiest to spell too.

John: but is it accurate to say that the term alien alienates your people to a certain degree?

Omal: it is more something that upsets Kiri more than it upsets me. I have been called many, many derogatory terms in my existence so they are words.

Russ: now question, would it be better to say reserve extraterrestrials to folks like yourself who are kind and benevolent and alien to those folks like the grays who are not?

Omal: why discriminate against one group for another group?

Russ: well it would differentiate.

Omal: hostile alien, nonhostile alien. Nonhostile extraterrestrial, hostile extraterrestrial, it is all the same.

Russ: ahh okay, just a thought.

Omal: it is what is easiest for the populist to understand.

Russ: okay.

Omal: I know this stems from a discussion on Native Americans and Indians.

John: yeah, you took my thoughts right out of my brain.

Russ: Johnny protector of everyone.

John: well.

Omal: it more comes from the term political correctness.

Russ: true. Okay, the last part I have on this is that in the same......well further on in the report I saw was that later that same year, three crafts were captured in the Nevada desert. Supposedly by some high-powered radar that was being used that knocked out the control abilities.

Omal: I think that is an erroneous report.

Russ: it did seem like it, I can't see any radar would be powerful enough to knock out some craft of any kind.

Omal: not unless you get real, real, real close. You wish to know how close?

Russ: on top of the thing?

Omal: come here.

(Everybody laughs.)

John: you're talking really, really close.

Omal: correct. In other words, they would have to park on top of it and then no matter what would be knocked out. Even one of our aircraft, if it is high powered.

Russ: oh, okay.

Omal: a radar that is used for bouncing radar images off of the moon surfaces.

Russ: ahh, all right. So a radar imaging display almost?

Omal: correct.

Russ: okay. That was my whole list right there of stuff, Johnny?

John: well I just kinda came in late. Yeah that was the main thing that was on my mind, the alien and the ET thing you know and just terminology and stuff.

Russ: oh I see.

SIDE ONE ENDS



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SIDE TWO

(Omal finishes signing off as the tape comes to life.)

John: see you around dude.

Omal: I'll be back.



(Tia comes back in a bouncy mood.)

Tia: incy wincy spider went climbing up the spout. Down came the rain and washed poor incy out.

Russ: hi Tia.

Tia: oka,y hello.

Russ: yeah and Omal's....

John: hi Tia.

(Tia says hi in Durondedunn.)

Russ: Omal's transcriptions I'm doing, having to make a few changes here and there for continuity sake. (Between two different sessions.)

Tia: uh-huh yes because I get a little bit confused. I have to....you might want to put this in the fact that I have to translate into English before I vocalize what I'm saying sometimes.

Russ: hmm that's true.

Tia: English is not my native tongue.

Russ: well what I found myself doing now is making my changes in transcribing while we're doing the tape.

Tia: so sometimes that can change the whole entire meaning.

Russ: well that's why I've got Karra in my head.

Tia: uh-huh yes.

Russ: the editor from.....

John: now is Omal fluent in English where he just......

Tia: yes he is.

John: verbalizes it along with all the other languages he knows?

Tia: oh he knows so many languages it's ridiculous.

John: right and that's different from you, you're using a computer to translate?

Tia: no, no. I translate like you translate Spanish, I have to think about it.

John: okay.

Russ: so like if you had to channel to a group in Swahili, you'd probably getting Omal in Swahili.

Tia: uh-huh. I've actually heard him sit down and go "hung goy fat choi".

John: which is Chinese?

Tia: uh-huh. Hung goy fat choi, Happy New Year. I learned that from Mark actually.

Russ: oh cool. Good, so no Ashtar tonight?

Tia: fortunately no unless he pops his head in through the door and then ohhh.

Russ: well we still have 45 minutes so we'll see what happens here, who knows?

Tia: about 42 at the moment.

Russ: okay cool.

Tia: okay.

Russ: all right.

Tia: (says goodbye in Durondedunn.)

Russ: bye love.




(Kiri has her turn next in the channeling circle on the base.)


Russ: had to make some slight changes.

John: ain't no thing.

Russ: I don't think so. Hi Tia...Karrie.

Kiri: Karrrie?

Russ: Kiri.

Kiri: Ki-ri.

Russ: I said Tiree.

(Everybody laughs.)

Kiri: you don't speak English very well do you? You don't speak English very well at all.

Russ: working on it.

Kiri: oh okay.

Russ: Tiree, that's a cute name though. I like that.

Kiri: yes I've got to go and face down the devil later on.

Russ: who?

Kiri: Mark.

Russ: why?

Kiri: he's upset.

Russ: why?

John: yes he is, he was upset with you last night.

Russ: oh yeah right.

Kiri: keeping him up so late.

Russ: well you're probably looking at the clock on Hades Base and thinking it's 11 o'clock.

Kiri: yes I was.

Russ: and you forgot about the two hour time difference.

Kiri: well actually it was about 10:15, yeah about 10:15 up here and he said no later than 11 o'clock so I thought......

Russ: he meant Hades Base time.

Kiri: well I got confused all right? I get carried away.

Russ: hey the light wasn't red yet. (The notification signal for Mark's energy level while away from his body.)

Kiri: no, it was even flashing, it wasn't even blinking.

Russ: will there you go, you gave it your best shot.

Kiri: yeah, it started blinking when I took it off.

Russ: well darling, let's work on Kiri's corner shall we?

Kiri: okay.

Russ: I know from that Katrina session we're not in a get much out of you either that night.

Kiri: I made a few sensible comments before I got carried away.

Russ: did you?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: I can always put those in also.

Kiri: okay Kiri's corner, meditation. Okay, let me first of all explain flowers. Flowers are an indigenous plant to Sirius. There are three distinct types. There are the red ones which are a pick-me-up. They will make you hyper, you won't need to sleep, they make you think clearly, they can make you very silly as well if you take too many of them. Taking one is fine, it is a stimuli, makes you very happy. Okay, the blue ones, these are a depressant. They make you mellow, relaxed, comfortable and even sleepy. If you eat more than you should or overdose, it does not kill you, it just puts you to sleep for quite a while. It is not uncommon for young individuals to enjoy these flowers and wake up a week later wondering what happened. Okay the last type and my most favorite type, these are the pink type. These are a sexual aphrodisiac stimuli. Very enjoyable, heightens all senses of awareness relating to sexual activity once skin becomes very sensitive to touch. The erogenous zones get very stimulated very quickly and it can also prolong the act of lovemaking, that's why I like them. Okay, that is a preamble on flowers. Okay, now let me get sensible here. Meditation techniques hmmm. Now on Sirius there is a tradition of deep meditation. This is where you get in a comfortable position, you relax and you look within yourself. You hold up your soul as it were and analyze it to see if it is where what you think it is where. You analyze dispassionately what you have achieved. Whether it is 58 years of life, a hundred years of life, 500 years of life, you analyze all your experiences in this meditation status. This ties in a little bit with the blue flowers as to keep yourself in a non-mode of emotions, you use the blue flowers to achieve that linear line of analyzing what you have done. Whether it is good or bad, positive or negative, you analyze it. You see what you did wrong, how you should correct it. You analyze is it a positive or a negative affect. To achieve this meditational status, what you do is first of all you get relaxed and you go through a standard meditation technique of breathing. You do 20 deep, long breaths. Then 20 short, shallow breaths. And you repeat this on and off until you achieve the status of peace. You may also select a mantra such as peace and harmony, peace and harmony and you will repeat this over and over in your mind as you take the deep breaths. But as a novice, you might practice saying the mantra out loud in between each breath so that you have the deep breathing and the mantra going at the same time. Also, you can use as you might call it a Zen technique which is a hum. Hmmmmmm.. Choosing a frequency that feels as if it vibrates in a nasal cavity and in the cavity where a third eye would be. This will induce a almost hypnotic state and create a level of awareness that makes it easier to review what you have been up to.

Russ: question, have any of the flowers from Sirius ever been attempted to be grown on Earth? For example, back in the.....

Kiri: you're referring to the Lotus Blossom eaters.

Russ: not just the lotus but for example the poppy which...

Kiri: is red in color.

Russ: is possibly mutated?

Kiri: that is a possibility but it would have had to have mutated quite radically I'm afraid.

Russ: well people mutated quite radically.

Kiri: it is a possibility but the soil and climate don't appear to be correct, I don't know. We don't have the ship's manifests of when they came to your your planet.

Russ: okay let's shoot with the lotus then.

Kiri: uh-huh, that's closer.

Russ: now we don't have examples of lotuses anymore. We have stories of what lotus' did and that was just the fumes of them.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and this goes back of course to Homer and the Odyssey.

Kiri: yeah....the od..ody...yeah, whatever.

Russ: right, in which the Lotus Eaters would eat lotuses and then find themselves in that state that we're describing here with the blue flowers.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and that sort of hints then possibly that in time immemorial where possibly we had some flowers that....

Kiri: immemorial is an incorrect word, immemorial suggests perpetuity, forever.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: you might want to change that word....

Russ: I'll work on that.

Kiri:
but we understand what you mean.

Russ: correct. All right so where do we go from there, how do we research something like that?

Kiri: read the Odyssey.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: it's right down there. (The book was in the library in the room.) Look up myths and legends. You'll find Vishnu in references to I believe it's lotus blossoms.

Russ: correct.

Kiri: look there. You'll also find it in Chinese cultures, Indian cultures, the Mongols. Not the Mongols of Genghis Khan but the moguls, moguls of India.

Russ: right.

Kiri: there is references in there. There is references in...oh cricky I'm trying to remember the famous character that rode around and chariots in the sky. You know who I mean.

Russ: Apollo?

Kiri: no, no: no, no, Indian mythology.

Russ: oh. chariots in the sky, Vishnu?

Kiri: yeah I think it might be Vishnu but it's a particular individual that is references to. There are also references........who was a gentleman who had the interview at Skywalker Ranch that was televised? Something about mythology, comparing modern and ancient mythologies.

Russ: I didn't catch it.

Kiri: no, I'm sure Mark knows what it is, ask him.

Russ: okay. Now is it possible then that we're talking about dirt that was maybe brought from Sirius and kept in plants or kept in pots but later on it couldn't support the plant growth after a few generations?

Kiri: that's quite possible yes.

Russ: okay, you've heard of that where the soil will die out due to too much farming.

Kiri: yeah, uh-huh, yeah. That is quite possible that that occurred that as I said, I don't know, they didn't keep the ship's manifests.

Russ:  hmm.

Kiri: I mean it's possible that individuals so longing for home, decided they would bring home with them.

Russ: makes sense to me.

Kiri: or, they were so addicted to these darn things.

Russ: but they're non-addictive?

Kiri: it's a psychological addiction.

Russ: oh okay.

John: I was just going to bring that up.

Kiri: uh-huh.

John: too late, got to be psychologically addicting.

Kiri: when God said brains, you thought he said drains and wanted big empty ones, don't you listen?

Russ: I'm trying to make clarification for the webpage......

Kiri: oh.

Russ: so that people who are listening or reading this will understand the fact that this was something that is non-addictive.

Kiri: okay.

Russ: that you then clarified as psychological addiction meaning that the whole matter now is easily read.

Kiri: are you going to be putting this in.

Russ: huh?

Kiri: are you going to be putting this little bit in?

Russ: this is the part that gets edited.

Kiri: so all my wit in humor wasted for nothing.

Russ: no, no, no, I'll put in the fact that it is psychologically addicting.

Kiri: you're going to put that in?

Russ: I'll try to describe in parentheses maybe.

Kiri: Kiri sticks out her tongue.

Russ: something like that.

Kiri: or Kiri sticks out Mark's tongue. Okay.

Russ: you were saying?

Kiri: sorry?

Russ: you were saying?

Kiri: what was I saying?

Russ: prior to brains and drains?

Kiri: oh yes. Sorry, my brains empty. We're wasting tape Tia just said.

Russ: oh, okay.

Kiri: okay, do you have any engineering questions now I've given you a lecture on flowers?

John: what about the medicinal qualities of flowers? Don't you use...

Kiri: yes they.....

John: the blue ones when you're menstruating?

Kiri: yes.

John: is that correct? Wouldn't that be good to mention?

Kiri: yes it would be actually.

John: for our readers?

Kiri: actually it would be very useful to mention that the blue flowers are used for menstruation, cramping, bloating. It makes you in a nice, mellow state of mind where it doesn't matter, it takes away the pain.

Russ: hmm, and have they been able to bring those into a point where you can condense them into a liquid, the flowers? Like an alcoholic beverage let's say or a injectable....

John: flower essence?

Russ: or injectable essence or something like that?

Kiri: no, no. It has been done in the past but is no longer done because that makes it too potent.

Russ: oh, I see.

John: any other medicinal qualities of the flowers?

Kiri: yes, the pink ones do make you more fertile.

John: along with increasing your sexual drive?

Kiri: of course, yes.

John: okay, any others before we move on to engineering?

Kiri: no, not really.

John: I wanted to make sure we've covered all the bases on flowers, thank you very much.

Kiri: you mind not banging so loud?

Russ: I'll pass that along. Okay Johnny.....

Kiri: oh it's outside is it?

Russ: yeah.

Kiri: okay.

Russ: engineering questions?

John: not right off the top of my head, go ahead.

Russ: oh.

John: I'm sure you are full of them.

Russ: no, only a single one. Talking to Omal about the engineering factors of I-D4.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: I haven't seen the movie so I'm just hypothesizing here.

Kiri: no, neither have I.

Russ: that they reverse engineer a spaceship and use it.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: well that would kind of suggest that it already was already being able to be used.

Kiri: I haven't seen the movie, I don't know. You're asking me to make an analysis on something I haven't seen.

Russ: hopefully I can get Mark to see it tomorrow with me.

Kiri: actually, I've got an idea. I'm going to make rash comments.

Russ: oh good.

Kiri: it's a wonderful movie go see it, it's great, I've never seen it before.

Russ: okay. So you'll be joining us then tomorrow?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, great.

John: now can Mark visualize it at the same time you are visualizing it?

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: Johnny you get the night off don't you?

John: tomorrow, yes.

Kiri: I can slide into Mark's mind and watch it.

Russ: I'll buy tickets early in the afternoon.

Kiri: okay, I suppose you don't need me anymore.

Russ: ahh, who else is coming in?

John: ahhh, don't feel like that.

Kiri: Karra, actually, I've got plans.

Russ: okay, yeah we do need Karra on.

John: you got plans?

Kiri: yeah.

John: you look like you've got ants in your pants.

Kiri: I've got more plans than that.

John: there's more than ants in your pants right?

Kiri: well I personally would prefer them in your pants and not mine.

Russ: thank you for Kiri's corner there, we are styling now.

John: and it's been nice visiting with you.

Kiri: yes it has.

John: you keep frequenting our household quite often and you seem to be a lot more comfortable......

Kiri: oh thank you.

John: and I enjoy visiting with you even though most the time you're so preoccupied with your computer, with Mark's computer.

Kiri: uh-huh.

John: but I still enjoy the little bit of time we spend together.

Kiri: oh thank you, I enjoy it also. I will try to communicate more easily but sometimes I tend to over balance myself and I've got to watch that when I'm walking around.

John: you have to be careful.

Kiri: yes, we don't want to have to pick Mark up in lots of little pieces like a certain egg character.

John: well yeah, when you almost fell flying down the stairs you would've hurt Mark's body pretty badly.

Kiri: yes I know.

John: if you had fallen.

Kiri: that's why.....

John: I told him about that too.

Kiri: that's why I've stopped coming down the stairs like I used to.

John: yeah, yeah that's a good idea, especially when you're wearing slippery socks.

Kiri: yes, yes. Okay I'll see you later Johnny, see you probably on Friday night.

John: okay, we'll glue some sandpaper to Mark's feet.

Kiri: yes, that's a great idea, let's do that.

John: is that a great idea?

Kiri: let's do......

John: yeah we've got lots of sandpaper on hand and glue, we'll glue some sandpaper to Mark's feet.

Kiri: let's do that for real.

John: okay.

Kiri: we'll use that clear sticky tape, we'll do that for real okay? Bye.


John: I'll help you.

Russ: he's going to be expecting that won't he.




(Tia transitions to Karra next.)


Tia: (says hi in Durondedunn.)

Russ: hi Tia.

Tia: okay, I'll put on......I'll put on what's her face.

Russ: love of my life.

Tia: (Wispers ID.)

Russ: we'll check it out tomorrow.

Tia: I don't need to.

Russ: we'll see it......show off.

Tia: oh before I go, the president in the movie is not Bill Clinton.

Russ: somebody worse?

John: he's an ex-fighter pilot.

Russ: oh.



(Karra next makes her appearance.)

Karra: hello.

Russ: hi Karra.

John: hi Karra.

Karra: greetings, how's it going gentlemen?

Russ: good of course.

John: good, good.

Karra: okay, let us get down to business, healers hall.

Russ: healers hall.

Karra: okay, what do you wish to know?

Russ: we used in your bio.......

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: where we added the chemical compounds combined with crystals...

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: let's go a little bit on that.

Karra: okay........yes?

Russ: maybe you could describe it a little bit for us?

Karra: chemical compounds, okay. Using such chemicals as iron.

Russ: right.

Karra: after all, you all need iron but it is such a minute amount that it is very hard to explain. You use very minute amounts of chemical compounds. For example, calcium mixed in water, apart from making a very horrible taste in the mouth, it's quite useful. But there are other ways of getting these chemical compounds such as calcium through milk.

Russ: hmmm.

Karra: that is very useful for bones and hair. So the chemical compounds that I am using are actually included in the food so it would be more accurate to say nutritional chemical compounds.

Russ: ahhh, well that clears that up a little bit.

Karra: yes.

Russ: okay. Now as I remember, we were working at one time on somebody who had broken their leg I think or something and you were talking about their arm. I believe you were talking about use of magnets.......

Karra: yes.

Russ: on Hades Base in conjunction with the cast and crystals.

Karra: yes.

Russ: and now we're finding similar healing techniques being employed down here on earth.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: with the use of magnets.

Karra: very strong, powerful magnets.

Russ: right.

Karra: and what is actually happening is it is stimulating pushing together North and South together, pull together, generating a field that pulls.

Russ: right.

John: would those very powerful magnets be electromagnets?

Karra: they can be but electromagnets have to be shielded from the rest of the body because they can have detrimental effects but the generating field of an electromagnet has to be very high and intense to be that harmful to the body.

Russ: but regular magnets will do the same job.

Karra: but it takes longer yes.

Russ: right.

Karra: the magnets we use on the base are a magnet that are very, very powerful over a short distance and then dissipate quite quickly.

Russ: hmmm, do we have anything similar down here?

Karra: electromagnets to a certain extent but of course these magnets are charged in a different way in their magna......please, help me.

John: magnetic.

Russ: magnetic field.

John: properties?

Karra: magnetism.

John: magnetism?

Karra: that is the word I was looking for, magnetism. The magnetism is much more intense in the ones that we have up here over a shorter area. Electromagnets, their energy field dissipates quite quickly.

Russ: uh-huh. Now as I recall when Linda was here, we were discussing from quite a while back actually the use of special magnets.

Karra: bio magnets.

Russ: bio magnets. Now how does that field compare to the ones that you use?

Karra: they are similar but they're also quite different.

Russ: they're weaker right?

Karra: oh much weaker, much, much weaker. And even though they do accelerate the healing process, it is not as rapid as it would be up here with our much more intense and stronger magnetic field. There are magnets up here which are quite capable of actually leaching out of your body the iron, they are that powerful.

Russ: wow.

Karra: so it is necessary sometimes to ingest iron in a minute amounts to individuals that work in this field. They will ingest more iron than they actually need because they know they're going to lose some of it.

Russ: I see.

John: are you familiar with the magnets that you can wear in your shoes?

Karra: those are bio magnets.

John: oh okay, so we are talking about the same thing.

Karra: correct.

John: I've got a pair.

Karra: uh-huh.

John: and do you see some benefit with them?

Karra: yes and no. Don't expect a lot because the magnetic field is not as intense as would be necessary to heal. However, they are very soothing and relaxing. They make you feel comfortable. It is something that is useful.

Russ: hmm, do doubling the magnets up double the field?

Karra: not as much as one would like.

Russ: uh-huh. So tripling then you would get you more of a benefit then singularly.

Karra: yes but the field is not as intense as one would like.

Russ: okay so no matter what, you're going to have to work with it on a slower basis.

Karra: correct.

Russ: now besides working on healing broken bones, what other uses would magnetism that we can find down here like for example with bio magnets, help in the healing properties of of the body?

Karra: oh there are many, many different uses that would be used. Cuts, scratches, headaches believe it or not.

Russ: hmmm.

John: how about wear and tear on your legs?

Karra: yes.

John: I was told that bio magnets are good because the type of work I do and all the lifting and......

Karra: well that goes back to wearing them in your shoes and the soothing affect that it has. You see when something is not as tired, it will last longer. When a muscle becomes tired, it is working harder to pump oxygen and blood to the extremities and therefore it takes more energy. Something that makes that easier is very useful.

Russ: hmmm.

Karra: and that is what those bio magnets do.

John: do bio magnets that we get on this planet, do they wear out after a period of time? Do they lose their magnetism?

Karra: eventually yes but it is something that takes quite a while, something that I wouldn't worry about your lifetime Johnny.

John: oh really? So the pair I bought a couple years ago in Sedona are still functioning and working okay?

Karra: they should be.

John: okay.

Karra: if they're not, you got ripped off, they weren't real magnets.

Russ: now what if you were able to hook up a battery charge to one? Would that increase the power without the debilitating effects of actually having electromagnets?

Karra: no, it wouldn't increase the electrical magnetic field as much as you are implying.

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: yes it does increase it but it is not a dramatic jump.

Russ: okay.

Karra: you have to remember to have positive to North, negative the South otherwise you are realigning these poor suckers and if they lose alignment, what happens?

Russ: they reverse it.

Karra: no they lose magnetism.

Russ: oh.

Karra: if they lose alignment. They all have to point in the same way for magnetism correct?

Russ: correct.

Karra: now if one's going this way, one's going that way and another one's that way and they're going all higgledy-piggledy, what happens to the magnet?

Russ: it just becomes a piece of metal.

Karra: correct.

Russ: uh-huh.

John: higgledy-piggledy, is that a technical term?

Karra: oh yes, very, very technical.

John: oh, okay.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: yeah, originally from Sirius from way, way back, it survived the eons of time to....

Karra: oh yes, oh immensely, immensely old. It is like some of our medical expressions that we use to shorten words. Like H..F..HFF. Somebody comes in with a broken leg, let's say it's a guy and I would say "HFF, we better work on this one quickly".

Russ: hmmm.

Karra: what does HFF mean? His #@^%@* fault.

Russ: well that's putting it......

John: okay yeah,

Russ: diplomatically.

John: very, very technical.

Karra: uh-huh, oh yes, it's a fightfully technical term. Or what would be another one? Let me see. H.....HDB no, HPH. I remember when I was a medic in the army, Sirian Defense Force I had a few of these.

Russ:: what's it mean?

Karra: hygiene person......hygiene personal habits.

Russ: oh.

Karra: it means he doesn't have any.

Russ: so it would be actually PHH, personal hygiene habits.

Karra: well, English isn't my language.

Russ: true, true.

Karra: I get the words mixed up.

Russ: hmm, okay.

Karra: yes?

Russ: and now working with crystals and magnets?

Karra: uh-huh, okay now crystals are more of an energy supply for the spiritual being to recharge the injured individual. It is quite common for somebody that has been hurt to feel physically drained of energy and this is because their body's immune system is fighting the infection or fighting to repair itself. So what do you do? You use crystal to re-energize the individual or, if you happen to be fortunate enough to have healing crystals, use the energies from those focusing in on the harmed area and what this is actually doing is the energy that is already in that area focusing on healing is being directed by this crystal, let's say it is a laser crystal right and you use a sweeping motion right? What you are doing is focusing the energy in that area in a sweeping motion and augmenting it with the energy of the crystal which is helping to heal by sweeping the energy into a useful, cohesive unit.

Russ: so if we were to use magnets also that would do the same thing?

Karra: yes but sometimes it is best to use a combination of healing techniques.

Russ: right, which is why I'm thinking of using both, the crystals and magnets.

Karra: yes, you would use them either simultaneously or one after the other.

John: are you familiar with this publication?

Karra: oh this one? I'm afraid I can't open Mark's eyes to read it and I don't read English very well. What is it called?

John: it's called the "The Complete Crystal Guidebook".

Karra: yes, I believe I am aware of it.

Russ: being as it's my book.

John: no, this is my book.

Russ: oh I've got one too then.

John: oh, yeah I know.

Russ: oh, so yeah she's quite familiar with it.

John: it's "a practical path to self development, empowerment and healing for the beginner and advanced."

Karra: uh-huh.

John: it's by someone called Uma....

Russ: Silbey..

John:
Silbey?

Karra: oh yes.

John:
Shilbey?

Russ:
Silbey.

Karra:
Silbey.

John:
Silbey.

Karra: I am vaguely aware of it, your question being Johnny?

John: is it a good, practical handbook for us to use here?

Karra: yes, it is quite a useful tool.

John: would there be some other publications that you're aware of that we have on this planet?

Karra: I do not have Tia's expertise on computers otherwise I would look it up and help you. As much as I would love to, I lack the expertise.

John: okay, that's good enough.

Karra: okay. All right, last questions.

John: that was my last question.

Karra: okay I'll see you guys later, especially you dear.

Russ: of course my love.





(Tia finishes up the session with a light moment.)
 

Tia: (says hi in Durondedunn.)

Russ: hey, it's the mistress with the mostest.

Tia: oh yes, Mistress with the mostest, with the swivel hips.

John: the ringleader of the gang.

Tia: I'm leader of the pack, vroom, vroom, vroommm.

Russ: do you know what that makes her then?

Tia: what?

Russ: part of the ring cycle.(Laughs.)

Tia: part of the ring cycle?

Russ: you know, the motorcycle, the Wagner Ring cycle?

Tia: oh, yes. (Hums a few bars.)

Russ: it is a translation from Durodedunn back to English.

John: yeah, yeah.

Tia: (sings some more.) Yeah......what's up Doc?

Russ: okay, let's see what we've got left here to mess around with being as everything's all covered pretty much for the webpage....

Tia: who's on first?

Russ: I suppose everything else is....

Tia: it's about to run out as well. Who's on first?

Russ: it's got a ways to go.

Tia: okay, cup of tea would be nice.

Russ: not too far.

John: who's on first?

Tia: yes, who's on first?

John: who is on first.

Tia: that's right.

John: who is the correct answer.

Tia: who's on first, what's on second, I don't know's on third.

Russ: so who's playing shortstop?

Tia: no, who's on first.

Russ: yes but who has played shortstop?

Tia: no, who is on first.

John: who?

Tia: that's right.

John: want me to get the tea?

Russ: yeah he trades off see?

Tia: hey, let's do the routine all right? Who's on first?

Russ: I don't know.

Tia: no, he's on.....

John: no, no. They're on third.

Tia: thank you. MCP's.

Russ: it's at that point.

Tia: I'm not talking to you now.

Russ: oh good. Okay.

Tia: actually, Kiri was deliberately egging you on I think.

Russ: think so?

Tia: yeah she was.

Russ: well that's good.

Tia: she wanted to see how far you would go to putting it in to the......after all she said that she is the most playful of the bunch.

Russ: yeah well like I say, I'll probably edit heavily at that point.

Tia: you might put in, Kiri goes off into frivolous behavior.

Russ: well that's something like that night in the pyramid.

Tia: or Kiri starts making wild comments that are unrelated to the channeling session.

Russ: Kiri sheds clothes, attacks Lyka.

Tia: it wasn't Lyka I don't think, it think that it was Katrina.

Russ: well that's true. Hmm, how is Lyka? I'm a little worried about her.

Tia: what do you mean?

Russ: well I don't see her at all and she isn't coming to channeling sessions anymore but it seems like she's gotten kind of antisocial, not so much a bad way but just kind of more withdrawn.

Tia: she's very confused at the moment.

Russ: right which is why I am asking the question.

Tia: well she wants to do what's right for her family, she wants to do what's right for her unit, she wants to do what's right for us and they don't mesh.

Russ: well where does the conflict come in? Her family doesn't want the same things you guys want I take it?

Tia: they have different outlooks.

Russ: yeah but they're Sirian.

Tia: yeah, oh they're Sirian but they're of a lower class then Kiri and Karra you see? So that their outlooks are little different.

Russ: oh, well I have to admit I'm not too used to the lower class outlook unfortunately. I'm used to Tanaxa, (Kiri and Karra's father.) Kiri, Kara and....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: you know we don't meet too many other Sirians.

Tia: no. But you know she's confused emotionally, she's also very confused about her sexuality and also she has incredible longing that she wants a child but she's also got the problem with the loyalty to her group of warriors.

Russ: well see this is all very strange because being sixth dimensional, I wouldn't expect this kind of confusion.

Tia: she's young.

Russ: well agreed but so is Kiri and yet you don't see that kind of confusion with Kiri. Kiri knows exactly what she wants, how to get it........

Tia: yes but when I say Lyka is young, she is young.

Russ: well....

Tia: she's only 19.

Russ: oh, she's still a kid.

Tia: exactly.

Russ: well so theoretically, by the time she reached Kiri's age she'll have it all figured out?

Tia: hopefully yes.

Russ: I mean like I say, it's just in sixth dimension young or not I would expect people to have more abilities and more resources available to them......

Tia: to develop their understanding certainly certainly but she is still a woman, she still has those hormones, she still has to learn and experiment with her sensuality.

Russ: hmmm.

Tia: she has to learn how to control herself.

John: tea time.

Tia: oh thank you dear.

John: did Kiri tell you about her...

Tia: ow, ow, ow, ow.

John: oh yeah it's......yeah it's hotter than your lover.

Tia: which one?

John: I don't know, take your pick. Did Kiri tell you about her adventure with Rocketta?

Tia: yes.

John: yes, yeah and he gave her quite a start.

Tia: do you know what I would've done if I had come across Rocketta? (A wild raccoon that comes and visits.)

John: what?

Tia: I would've attacked. Jumped on her, played with her.

John: really?

Tia: rolled with her.

John: seriously?

Tia: yeah, I wouldn't of killed her, I would have just played with her.

John: do you realize how big this raccoon is?

Russ: how dangerous that is?

John: yeah, I mean you could. If you were in Mark's body and you attack this raccoon with Mark's body, the odds of him being very seriously injured and having to be hospitalized and go through a series of rabies shots would be very good.

Russ: in your body, I think you could pull it off.

Tia: yes.

John: but in Mark's body, it wouldn't be very fair to him.

Tia: well you didn't say in Mark's body.

Russ: that's true.

John: I know okay, I didn't clarify that you're right.

Tia: uh-huh. I mean in Mark's body, if you stood up, I could jump over you and tap you on the head with my hands as my legs passed over your shoulders.

Russ: in Mark's body?

Tia: no, my body.

Russ: your body, you said Mark's body.

Tia: did I?

John: yeah, you did.

Tia: well it's not my language.

Russ: well it's sort of, kind of an inherited language anyway.

Tia: what you mean?

Russ: well practice makes perfect.

John: yeah, Russ is learning that. Yep, you think he'll ever master the English language?

Tia: nah.

John: nah, nah, you'll probably have it mastered before he does.

Russ: but I keep practicing.

Tia: yes, it's a little bit like making love, you have to practice.

John: practice, practice, practice.

Russ: well Tia's ready for the sexual Olympics.

John: oh yeah.

Tia: Kiri is ready for the sexual Olympics. Actually we're probably both ready for the sexual Olympics.

Russ: a tagteam.

(Everybody laughs.)

Tia: I thought it was mud wrestling, I thought it was mud wrestling.

Russ: all-female relay team.

John: oh yeah, I can just see them passing the stick to each other.

(More laughter.)

Russ: and then vibrating.

Tia: well have you heard of.........

THE TAPE ENDS


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