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Archivist Notes: Like a fresh, spring breeze, April's podcast starts off with a call to Carrie, a joyful soul who always brings a smile with her arrival. This session took place a month before the podcast posted in November called "A Call To Carrie and Hunting Holograms". The entire first side is all of the ninety minutes with half cut out for personal conversations that were not ready for prime time. Instead, we have added a different session that was to have been posted but was found to have too much radio interference even after mastering the audio on the second side as the second side for this session. The sound differences are apparent as the sessions proceed but the information is as always from higher dimensional entities and thus worth hearing. That is brought out on side two as Treebeard takes up almost the entire side discussion communication for the upcoming Conference. At over eight centuries old, his experience shows through like a glacier meeting the sea. His knowledge is vast while he schools us on how to the discussions to come with examples he uses as learning tools. That his own English skills are not as fluid as the other speakers make the point that lots of preparation will be needed from when the talks start from those of us down here. Side one is a lot about Carrie's upcoming marriage and so a happy counterpoint to Treebeard's heavy topics. After we hang up on the phone call with Carrie we take a look at the possible currency collapse predicted for the future and how best to get through it. While we never had to experience that lesson in this reality, a downturn in the economy over the next eighteen months is predicted so her discussion is a timely bonus to the information provided in another pair of excellent channeling sessions.

   Tia is ring mistress for the first side with the call to Carrie happening right off the bat. Her wedding is coming up and plans are being made. Those plans are not at the forefront of Carrie's mind as much as the itching she was experiencing from some indeterminate reason. Besides that, issues with the guest list were causing her elevated stress levels and then she heard from me during this session I had other commitments the week prior to her wedding suddenly thrust upon me. We do get from Tia that with a Durondedunn wedding, everyone is naked which as Carrie points out wouldn't go over well in the Midwest. Shortly thereafter Kiri reminds Tia she wants some time with Carrie so they trade places. Kiri and Carrie go way back from some of our earlier channeling sessions when she lived in Tahoe so distances make little difference in their friendship. We discover from Carrie that she had made arrangements for the pastor of the Orlando Magic to officiate the wedding from a meeting Mike and herself had with him at an event they were all attending. Kiri brings up the dress she'll be wearing after the wedding as Carrie hadn't made plans for one yet. Kiri commits to drawing up a dress though we know from the later session getting the use of Mark's body to draw the design would be tricky. Kiri lets me wrap our call with Carrie up from there with my offer to help with Carrie's personal shields. Karra hadn't arrived yet as scheduled so Tia takes over after the call disconnects to transfer the channeling field's use to Omal. Our guest visiting from Australia learns that getting a personal opinion out of Omal doesn't come easy. The facts he provides instead cover all the bases in answering the question as it normally does. He finishes answering questions and it's Tia turn to get through a lot of information regarding currency problems such as hyperinflation as things that could be faced in the future if the systems in place to prevent them were to fail. We end things with Tia on a news item about the confiscation of MRE's taking place and how our Australian guest had a frequency close to Mark's which let her perceive his real moods or his ability to sense her. Karra uses what little time is left on the tape to discuss a genetic essay that had been done on me by Kornas during one of my astral travel trips to the base.

   Before he took on the nickname Treebeard, we had been calling him the Man with the Can. Treebeard is one of the base gardeners and the main thing he came to be identified with initially for us was his ever-present watering can we'd see on our visits. It had a built-in fifth dimensional gravity generator and so he was able to keep gallons of water in a can he used to water his plants. In this session from a couple later than the session on side one, he was working with the Baron as co-ringmasters. He takes that responsibility seriously and he gives us what is one of his longest times on tape yet. You can hear all eight hundred of his years of life much like the character in "The Lord of the Rings" he personifies when he speaks. His theme for his dissertation is communication and the need for patience in formulating the most appropriate answer to a question that is asked. An example he uses is a previous question asked of him on the growth cycles of plants. He describes the differences in such a general question requiring a general answer and the more specified answer to a more specific question. As far as the Conference is concerned, it was a progression from one to the other that is to be expected. He takes the short answer to a simple question as a teaching aid to show how such an answer really is a waste of time, inane drivel being one of his pet peeves. One suggestion he offers for the Conference is how to listen to the replies of those channeling to determine whether the connection to the race being channeling includes input from the host. An important lesson he provided was an important factor involved in living in a telepathic society. The need to be specific in both questions and answers is increased as well as how youths telepathically speak compared to their elders. A surprise that he ends with is his relation to two of our other guest speakers Leah and Bunny. He tops that with his revelation that he is able to probe minds, something followers of this webpage know of quite well. He does so with a mind-reading demonstration in how to learn who his relatives were. The Baron makes the transition to Omal who completes what is left of the tape by going over a subject Karra and himself had been discussing. The topic was attention deficit disorder which was comprised of three different sub-groups. The 80% diagnosed who do not have it, the 18% of highly intelligent people who retain much of the information that jumps back and forth over and the 2% who are of low intelligence diagnosed with ADD. Back then it wasn't as well understood as it is now but science still seems to have not caught up when hearing what he has to say.          

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ATTENDEES
TIA Ring Mistress MARK (Channel)
KIRI RUSS (Archivist)
OMAL CARRIE
KARRA JOHN
TREEBEARD NICOLE


SIDE 1

2.)(8:12)- Kiri finds out more details about Carrie's wedding and makes plans to draw up a design of a dress for after the wedding using Mark's body.
3.)(17:21)- Omal is asked from our guest visiting from Australia about the making a life-changing decision to which he provides both sides of the question so she can make an informed decision.
4.)(26:25)- Tia looks at the currency in times of economic hyperinflation through history and into the future. She also confirms she can read a bit of a guest's mind due to the closeness in vibrations to Mark's.
5.)(36:16)- Karra has gotten back my genetic essay from Kornas so we go over what I would do better without but it's a small list as she understands a human's quality of life often needs some vices.
SIDE 2

1.)(00:00)- Treebeard lays down some important communication building blocks in starting out the intergalactic Conference. He also gives us a better idea of how telepaths share information mentally.
2.)(39:56)- Omal gives a dissertation on a subject he and Karra had been working on of attention deficit disorder. He notes the three types he'd identified and the positive factor it was with a former guest.
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SIDE ONE


(Tia has already started the session as ring mistress)


Russ: I couldnít remember that for nothing.

John: that was a long time ago.

Tia: his brow frowned and so furrowed that you could plant seeds in there and they would sprout.

(the phone rings as we call Carrie)

Carrie: hello?

Tia: owÖ..hello.

Carrie: hello.

Tia: hello sister mind.

Carrie: hi, what are you guys doing?

Russ: what up Carrie?

Tia: oh theyíre debating Markís writing.

Carrie: oh.

Tia: uh-huh.

Carrie: hang on, let me get up and go into the other room.

Tia: oh, so you donít wake Mike up?

Carrie: oh no, heís awake, we were just laying down.

Tia: ohhhhh.

Carrie: we were getting ready to go to bed because we've had a long day. Okay, Iím in the other room.

Tia: okay, soÖ..

Carrie: God you guys, Iím itching like crazy.

Tia: why?

Carrie: I donít know, my whole body is broken out in some kind of rash, Iíve got a big, huge goose egg on my stomach that is itching. My neck and my ears have been itching really bad the last couple days, now my whole body has broken out in it.

Tia: hmm, you been messing around in the woods again?

Carrie: no, itís too cold, are you kidding? I donít know what it is, I am just itching like crazy.

Tia: hmm.

Carrie: I mean I am just broken out and I mean I do, I have a big, huge welt on my stomach and itís hard as a rock and itís the size of a baseball.

Tia: really?

Carrie: yes and it is itching like crazy.

Tia: well donít scratch it.

Carrie: I canít help it, I am scratching everywhere. I feel like my poor damn cat when she had fleas.

(Tia giggles)

Carrie: maybe I have fleas, I need a flea bath.

(now Tia laughs)

Tia: I doubt it, I doubt it.

Carrie: I donít know what it is but itís making me crazy.

Tia: probably a reaction to something.

Carrie: well see I thoughtÖ..okay, I was going to say maybe grandma switched laundry detergents?

Tia: thatís a possibility.

Carrie: but I washed some clothes the other day in some laundry detergent but itís a
laundry detergent that I got from grandma.....

Tia: uh-uh.

Carrie: about a month ago and itís been sitting in a bag and so I used it all up the other day.

Tia: probably too much washing detergent.

Carrie: I donít know what it was but man I am justÖÖbut see Iíve been itchingÖÖ..my face and my neck have been itching the last couple daysÖ..

Tia: hmmm.

Carrie: before I did laundry.

Tia: is there any chemicals or stuff that youíre using at work thatís new?

Carrie: not that I know of thatís new.

Russ: how about your school?

Carrie: let me think, you see itís been ever since I got my hair cut.

Tia: hmmm, did they use any spray on you?

Carrie: no.

Tia: they washed your hair right?

Carrie: uh-huh.

Tia: could be that, it could be that, the shampoo that they used.

Carrie: no.

Tia: hmm.

Carrie: because itís not just my head thatís itching.

Tia: yeah but you started scratching there first didn't you?

Carrie: yeah.

Tia: and hmm.

Carrie: huh?

Tia: thatís very strange.

Carrie: and now I've got a big welt on my stomach?

Tia: yeah that is very strange.

Carrie: and I mean Iíve been scratching my stomach. The welt just appearedÖ..

Tia: hmmm.

Carrie: and then I started scratching it.

Tia: well you shouldnít scratch it.

Carrie: I can help it, it itches.

Tia: stop scratching it.

Carrie: it itches, I mean just itches, itches like it's driving me insane.

Tia: well take a shower before you go to bed tonight and see if that helps.

Carrie: thatís not such a bad idea.

Tia: uh-huh. Okay, down to wedding plans huh?

Carrie: oh God, I've got a headache over wedding plans.

Tia: uh-huh, thatís why I thought we better talk because the other night when I was prying around in your mind it seems like youíve got a stress factor thatís way up there.

Carrie: yeah I do.

Tia: youíve got to remember that this is the biggest day of your life.

Carrie: I know.

Tia: uh-huh.

Carrie: I keep trying to remind myself that.

Tia: yes so you have to tell them that itísÖ..theyíre invited guests and you expect them to play their roles. Everybody agree with me on that?

Russ: yeah.

John: oh yeah.

Tia: yeah, they all agree.

Carrie: they all? Whoís they all?

Tia: thereís Russ, thereís a friend of Russí and Markís called Nicole, sheís from Australia.

Carrie: oh hi Nicole.

Nicole: hi.

Carrie: oh hi Russ.

Russ: hi darling.

Tia: and Johnny.

Russ: oh Carrie?

Tia: yes?

Russ: I might not be able to make it sweetheart.

Carrie: you better not even say that.

Russ: well I talked to my mom, my mom is like stressing over if I canít be there instead. Iím going to try to make them both okay? Iím going to try to get two weeks off from work, one week for you and one week for her, alrighty?

Carrie: Iíll understand if you canít.

Russ: Iím working on it darling.

Carrie: itíll crush my heart though.

Russ: Iím working on it.

Tia: Mark will be there though, heís looking forward to it.

Carrie: I know, Iím really excited.

Tia: uh-huh and weíll be there in spirit but not in body.

Carrie: thatís okay, I know you guys will be here.

Tia: uh-huh, yeah weíll have it all recorded and everything.

Carrie: at least I know youíll guys will be here and you wonít fight with me.

Tia: of course not no, yeah this is a very special day youíre having a big bonding like this.

Carrie: Iím really excited.

Tia: uh-huh.

Carrie: if I hurt their feelings or it made them upset I changed it, Iím not going to do that anymore.

Tia: no, no. Youíre going to tell them that this is the way that it is, this is why you doing it this way and if they donít like it tough.

Carrie: thatís what I told them, I said if itís going to offend anybody, please donít comeÖ..

Tia: uh-huh.

Carrie: just please donít come, I donít want you being here.

Tia: yeah well you could do a Durondedunn marriage, totally in the buff. That would get everybody going.

Carrie: Iíve been telling people thatís how the wedding was going to be and I had one girl at school the other day she freaked out, she said, "what is it with you and naked people?" I said, "well, I think the human body is beautiful. Whether youíre my size or youíre twice my size or ten times my size, it doesnít matter."

Tia: I take it sheís twice your size.

Carrie: yeah, sheís twice my size.

Tia: uh-huh.

Carrie: and I told her, I said, "the human body is beautiful, we came into this world without clothingÖ."

Tia: uh-huh.

Carrie: "clothing is just something that man created because they were insecure."

Tia: uh-huh, what about Durondedunn bodies? You like those?

Carrie: I donít know, Iíve never seen one.

(they both chuckle)

Tia: true, true.

Carrie: well, I've neverÖ..you know.

(Russ chuckles now)

Carrie: but she just freaked out, she couldnít believe it and I told her, "Iím going to have a naked wedding just to see how many people actually show up". She goes, "you're nuts."

Russ: Iíll be there.

Carrie: out in the Midwest it doesnít go over very well.

Tia: no it doesnít. Russ says that heíll be there, if itís naked heíll be there.

Carrie: oh if itís naked, Russ you can come naked. You can come any way you want, you can even wear that funky, silver suit that you have.

Tia: oohhhhh, I was listening to that conversation earlier on.

Carrie: I told Mark that. I said, "please, if Russ comes, donít let him wear that suit".

Tia: hmmm.

Carrie: but then thereís a part of me that if I told you that Russ, you would do it just on purpose.

Russ: uhh, yeah.

Carrie: so I knew I had to tell you just because thatís the other part of me that says, "oh just wear it because I love you like that anyways."

Russ: well Iíll get it altered to my size then.

Carrie: what did he say?

Tia: he says heís going to get it altered to his size. Iím going to put on the Kiri monster as she wants to put in her whatever monies worth it is.

Carrie: okay.





(Kiri comes on to talk to one of her best friends on this planet)


Kiri: yo.

Carrie: hey, whatís going on?

Kiri: oh usualÖ..telephoneís beepingÖÖusual stuff you know? You cool?

Carrie: oh yeah always.

Kiri: oh coolness.

Carrie: so whatís going on up there?

Kiri: oh nothing much, I made the race team.

Carrie: oh yeah?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Carrie: cool, I hear youíre wearing a new cut too.

Kiri: yeah, well Iíve had it for oh, couple weeks now.

Carrie: oh have you?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Carrie: me too, Iím real short now.

Kiri: yeah I heard, so I heard, Tia told me.

Carrie: Iím very short.

Kiri: uh-huh, mind you youíre short compared to me anyway.

Carrie: oh ha ha.

Kiri: mind you, youíre tall compared to Tia.

Carrie: okay, thatís one up on me.

Kiri: uh-huh. So, wedding plans huh? You want us to write out a wedding speech for you right?

Carrie: yes.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Carrie: oh and I didnít tell Tia that I've got some really exciting news. Okay Russ would know, maybe. Do you know the Orlando Magic?

Russ: yeah, yeah I know them.

Carrie: okay, you know the pastor for the Orlando Magic?

Russ: no.

Carrie: well we met him at a couple forums and at the last function we met him at?

Russ: right.

Carrie: he remembered who we were and we were talking to him and I we told him that we were getting married and he was really excited. And I just kind of blew it by him, I said, "you know, that would be great if you could be our minister." And he said he would.

Kiri: whoa, who is he?

Carrie: Iím so excited because this man, he like changed my life, he helped me out a lot with a lot of things I had questions about that I didnít understand when it came to Christian religion.

Kiri: oh, I was trying to figure out who the Orlando Magic was.

Carrie: itís a basketball team.

Kiri: yeah Russ just told me, he goes, "basketball".

Russ: Shaquille OíNeal.

Carrie: yes, so itís a basketball team and he is just an awesome, motivational, powerful speaker, heís a great guy, just has so much love in his heart and warmth. So heís got a youth camp he's got to get to at the end of June but heís not sure what day so he told us to call him at home and so we've been trying to get ahold of him. Itís very hard to get ahold of him, he lives in Florida and he travels a lot so tonight we tried to get ahold of him and we left a message and he's going to get back with us. I am so excited if he could come down. He said he would do that, he would come down hereÖ

Kiri: uh-huh.

Carrie: he would fly out here and marry us.

Kiri: oh that would be great.

Carrie: I mean I was so excited, I was like that would just...I mean that would top it.

Kiri: oh yeah, that would.

Carrie: that would just make it so awesome because he is justÖÖthis man changed my life, he really did, he changed a lot of things on the way Iíve thought about myselfÖ.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Carrie: and the way I thought about just the whole Christianity you know? Everything and how to put that in perspective into day-to-day lifeÖ..

Kiri: yeah.

Carrie: and the way I never understood it before and I mean not that Iím like a holy roller now or anything.

Kiri: no, I donít think you could ever be.

Carrie: itís a different perspective on it and he really helped me out a lot just by talking on stage and then when I met him and then when he remembered us, that even blew me away more. Because this man meets tens of thousands of people all the time.

Kiri: okay now do you have a dress for the evening after the wedding?

Carrie: no, not yet.

Kiri: okay, do you want me to sketch you up a design?

Carrie: oh, oh would you?

Kiri: yeah, no problem.

Carrie: oh yeah. See I still havenít even got the bridesmaids dresses up.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Carrie: Iím getting them made but I know what I want, I just canít, I have to get it down on paper, I have to get a pattern for it for her.

Kiri: okay, quick question, do you want big, fluffy, short sleeves or do you want a long sleeve, do you want backless or a low neck line?

Carrie: a low neck line and backless.

Kiri: okay Iíll see what I can do.

Carrie: no puffy sleeves.

Kiri: no puffy sleeves. Okay, I can come upÖÖ.

Carrie: I donít do bows well.

Kiri: okay, how about a little cape to go with it?

Carrie: oh that would be cuteÖ.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Carrie: oh that would be really cute. See, I didnít even know you were supposed to have an after dress, I really need my mom.

Kiri: you didnít know?

Carrie: I didnít know you were supposed to have one until a couple days ago someone said something to me. I said, "a going away outfit, whatís that? I thought that was his blue jeans and a T-shirt".

Kiri: Iíll come up with something real flashy. Now how about satin?

Carrie: how about satin?

Kiri: yeah, something in satin. Emerald green, shimmering satin.

Carrie: no, it canít be emerald green, itís got to match my colors.

Kiri: okay.

Carrie: my colors are ivory, wine and black.

Kiri: black, I can come up with a shimmery black dress with a ivory coloredÖhmm, thatís an interestingÖÖIíll draw it down on paper.

Carrie: okay.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Carrie: okay.

Kiri: okay and weíre waiting on the doctor to arrive and sheís nowhere in sight, she is late.

Carrie: oh oh.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Carrie: thatís not like her.

Kiri: no it isnít, we'll find out whatís going on in a little while. Okay Iíll let you talk with Russ and we'll let everything finish up then because you sound a little tired in your voice.

Carrie: yeah, well itís 11, itís 10 after 11 hereÖ..

Kiri: oh.

Carrie: and I have just been beat.

Kiri: well it's only 10 after eight up here.

Carrie: well yeah, weíre a three-hour time difference.

Kiri: oh yeah thatís right, yeah. Oh well, Iíll let you finish up with Russ.

Carrie: okay.

Kiri: okay?

Carrie: bye.

Kiri: bye. And Tia says bye sister mind.

Carrie: tell her bye.

Kiri: I will.

Carrie: okay.

Kiri: okay.

Russ: howís it going love?

Carrie: oh fantastic, how are you?

Russ: oh Iím doing really good, busier then heck working two jobs.

Carrie: why are you doing that?

Russ: well itís wintertime, we do that here in wintertime.

Carrie: oh thatís right.

Russ: Heavenly and all that kind of stuff. So how is school doing?

Carrie: oh fantastic, I love going to school but I hate the school.

Russ: interesting, howís your stress levels doing?

Carrie: better.

Russ: good.

Carrie: Iím reading a book right now thatís called "Brighten Your Day with Self-esteem"?

Russ: uh-huh.

Carrie: I read 20 minutes a day and itís gotten a lot better just because nothingís worth it. I mean sure, I might like stumble a few times during the day but I pick myself back up.

Russ: well good, good.

Carrie: itís not as bad as it used to be but things are real good.

Russ: okay. Hey, practice any on your personal shielding at all?

Carrie: a little bit, not as much as I should be.

Russ: do you need any help with it?

Carrie: yeah.

Russ: okay, what Iíll try to do then is give you a call tomorrow night probably around if I can six if Karra can remind me.

Carrie: six your time?

Russ: yeah, six our time. You going to be there?

Carrie: I donít know.

Russ: well Iíll call and see what happens.

Carrie: yeah. If not, we'll be home later on in the evening.

Russ: okay, well Iíll try every once in a while thenÖ.

Carrie: okay.

Russ: and weíll hook up.

Carrie: yeah Iím not sure, you see weíve got major ice storms going on right now tooÖ.

Russ: okay.

Carrie: so you kind of take your chances going somewhere.

Russ: well weíll give it a shot and that way I can talk to you more tomorrow.

Carrie: okay.

Russ: all right love?

Carrie: okay.

Russ: okay.

Carrie: tell everybody I said hi and it was nice talking to Nicole and Johnny?

Russ: uh-huh.

Carrie: is that it?

Russ: thatís it. Okay love, have a good night.

Carrie: okay, you too.

Russ: all right.

John: sleep well.

Carrie: bye you guys.

Russ: bye now.





(Tia returns to take over from Kiri) 


Tia: I hate it when she does that, she causes trouble and then what happens? She runs out on everybody, hah.

Russ: oh well, thatís Kiri, at her best.

Tia: yes, at her best. Sheíll be back she says. Okay, down to business.

Russ: okay.

Tia: oh Kiriís got a message that she put the kettle on apparently.

Russ: yes she did.

John: yes she did. At least she didnít take Markís car for a ride.

Russ: not in this weather.

Tia: no. Okay, Iíll see you guys in a few.

Russ: okay.

John: okay.

(Tia says goodbye in Durondedunn)






(Omal is on for side one but will be back)


Omal: greetings and felicitations everyone. Greetings Johnny, greetings Nicole, greetings Russ.

Russ: greetings Omal.

Omal: okay, down to business.

Russ: okay.

Omal: do we have questions?

Russ: Iíll jump off.

Omal: Johnny, do you have a question?

John: yeah, with getting ready for our survival thing, since cooking is my heavy I was going to put together a list of staples and things that we should have on hand.

Omal: that would be very good.

John: okay, after I put it together, would one of you go through it and check it out for me?

Omal: we will go through it with our nutritional expert when you have completed it.

John: good, good, good.

Omal: Nicole, do you have a question?

Nicole: not at the moment.

Omal: not at this time okay, Russ.

Russ: okay, Iím getting set to get it up on the Internet now at work, I got the okay on that.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and Iíve got some good instructional manuals on how to get onto the Internet through this survival magazine so getting onto those various groups anyway.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: input wise, Iím not going to have too much, it's going to be mostly reporting.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: so Iím just going to be watching and monitoring that.

Omal: okay.

Russ: and I'm going to try to find out some more stuff. The other stuff I read in there Iím going to ask you about later but I just wanted to give you that information for now.

Omal: okay.

Russ: Johnny? I don't want to hog everything here, you guys got anything?

Nicole: Omal?

Omal: yes?

Nicole: if there is a decision in someoneís life, you canít tell them what path to take can you?

Omal: no.

Nicole: why not?

Omal: because it is interference in your evolution on an individual scale.

Nicole: oh.

Russ: you can advise her right?

Omal: what is your question?

Nicole: but if you advise me?

Omal: I would be breaking the rules.

Nicole: why?

Omal: the advice I can give you is, what is best for you?

Nicole: I knew you didnít say that.

Omal: what would make you happy?

Nicole: I knew you were going to say that. Can you give to me some good points and bad points about each of them?

Omal: okay, good points of staying in Australia is itís a stable environment, it is something that you know, it is something that you have a connectedness to. About coming to this country? It is a challenge that will keep you young because it is a challenge, it is a new adventure and you are adventuresome.

Nicole: okay.

Omal: it will give you an opportunity for more contacts, more experiences that you would not otherwise have on your island continent.

Nicole: if this opportunity was anywhere in our country, I know what I'm talking about because of Mark.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Nicole: if this wasÖ..if this opportunity was anywhere in Australia Iíd grab it. The only thing is, it's familyÖ.

Omal: hmm.

Nicole: and friends as well but mainly family.

Omal: you do not have to break contact with your family and friends, just because you are separated by a great distance, doesnít mean to say that you no longer have contact with them.

Nicole what about just your personal opinions?

Omal: my personal opinions are irrelevant at this time.

Nicole: why?

Omal: because they serve no purpose in your decision.

Nicole: yeah but I'd like to hear your personal opinion over everyone elseís.

Omal: they serve no purpose.

Nicole: okay I got the message, thanks.

Omal: youíre welcome. Yes? You were about to say something young lady.

Nicole: yes I was about to sayÖÖ

Omal: only when I have to be.

Nicole: got it. With astral travel, what's the......?

Omal: uh-huh.

Nicole: Iím trying to likeÖ

Omal: trying to learn.

Nicole: learn how to move like my mind to do it and Mark never's got time.

Omal: Tia is the one to discuss it with, she is an astral traveler and as for Mark, make him have time.

Nicole: oh no, heís working or heís always at Hades Base.

Omal: hmm, I see your problem but pester him, he will teach you if you pester him.

Nicole: okay.

Omal: I believe what he is doing at the moment is teaching you a lesson. And what is the lesson that he's teaching you?

Nicole: to be eager enough to learn it?

Omal: no, Russ?

Russ: patience.

Omal: yes, I believe that is what he is teaching you.

Nicole: but youíre just telling me to pester him.

Omal: yes.

Nicole: when you pester someone, thatís not being patient.

Omal: that is correct, maybe he is not a good teacher but what he does know and what he can teach is very useful information that can be used. Is that correct Russ?

Russ: that is correct.

Omal: but he has very strange ways on teaching. Tia on the other hand is very keen on teaching people and she has a very successful teaching technique. Do you still have it around Russ?

Russ: the tape?

Omal: yes.

Russ: yes.

Omal: okay, we will try that to start off with. That is from what I have been informed is a basic astral travel tape, very basic.

Nicole: when I finally learn how to do it, can I come and meet you?

Omal: certainly.

Nicole: okay.

Omal: it would be an honor and a pleasure and I believe you enjoy.....I do not imbibe in wine myself personally.

Nicole: I can do without it.

Omal: okay, I was about to say we will have some way of celebrating.

Nicole: okay, I'll take it, I'll take you up on that.

Omal: okay.

Russ: last question, Carrie mentioned a bulge in her stomach at her heartÖ.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: this wouldn't be an effect of our shielding transfer would it?

(a shield they had put around the house we were in had been moved to protect her)

Omal: no, no.

Russ: hmm okay, thank you.

Omal: Johnny, do you have a question? Have you remembered what it was?

John: it had something to do with survival, Iím going to take some notes and discuss it with Russ.

Omal: was it half, a fire half?

John: no, we were discussing about fire and fire building and some different......

Omal: and stone circles.

John: yeah, Russ and I were discussing various things about fire building and the environment and different aspects of it.

Omal: uh-huh. OkayÖ..

Russ: oh well.

Nicole: one more question.

Omal: yes?

Nicole: is Australian accounting much different to American accounting?

Omal: Iím not an accountant, if I was I would be able to give you an answer. I have people that do accounting for me.

Nicole: okay.

Omal: maybe our accounting system is different from your accounting system.

Nicole: I just know that tax laws are different here. For instance, Nevada doesn't even pay tax and whereas California do, so I just felt maybe....

Omal: you would have to ask our analyst and she is of being a little bit boisterous at the moment.

Nicole: okay. Bye.

Omal: live long, prosper, and Iíll be back.





(Tia is back for most of the rest of the side)


Nicole: Tia.

Tia: uh-huh. Yes please, light, no sugar.

John: Kiri put some water in the kettleÖ.

Tia: uh-huh.

John: but she didnít turn the stove on so weíve got a big pot of ice cold water.

Tia: thatís Kiri for you.

John: I went up and I just turned on so itíll be a few minutes.

Tia: okay, no problem at all, no problem at all.

Nicole: Tia, how come you drink your tea the same as Mark?

Tia: because heís the one that got me addicted to tea. Thatís what we used to drink when he first astral traveled up here. We used to sit and drink tea and he said one day, "here, try it like I drink it". Because I used to put sweetener in there and drink it black.

Nicole: yeah, I don't like it like that.

Tia: uh-huh. But I went without the sweetener and it was sort of like it's more flavorful that way and I had very acute taste buds as well as sense of smell. So thatís how I drink my tea.

Russ: okay Tia?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: we have jokes and we have business, which do you want first? Or humor and business.

Tia: okay, humor.

Russ: humor, okay. This is all about Lance Ito's Side Bar and Grill, all about the O.J. Simpson trial.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: okay. Oh, did you hear that O. J.'s going to try marriage again? Yep, heís going to take another stab at it.

Tia: okay.

Russ: okay, now at the Lance Ito Side Bar and Grill, the motto is, "Join us for dinner if you have an hour to kill".

Tia: I could tell you a Durondedunn joke but somehow it loses it in translation.

Russ: darlingÖ.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: weíre working on this evening currency collapses.

Tia: uh-huh. Peso, whooshÖ.

Russ: right.

Tia: Lira, whoosh, pound is teetering a little bit, Deutsche Mark is rising, American dollar is having problems.

Russ: okay. Now hyperinflation, are we going to see that in scenarios A, B or C or all three?

Tia: hyperinflation, a little in B and a lot in C.

Russ: okay. Now what Iím seeing or what Iím reading here is that itís possibly the government trying to fix the national debt by monetizing it.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: in other words hyperinflate the dollar, then devalue it and issue a new dollar thereby wiping out the debt and us.

Tia: uh-huh, pretty much so huh?

Russ: okay.

Tia: whose idea is that though?

Russ: one of the contributors to this magazine.

Tia: oh, about the governmentÖ.

Russ: well itís been done before.

Tia: uh-huh. When was it done last?

Russ: well let's see, let's take Uruguay for one thing.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: being as we're working with their currency lately.

Tia: yes, I heard about that.

Russ: I would assume that thatís exactly what they did at one point.

Tia: uh-huh and itís been done many times. Sometimes it works, depends on the economic situation, sometimes it doesnít work. If you take the Deutsche Mark in the 1920's, they tried that and it made it worse.

Russ: they tried to issue a new one then?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: and it made it worse?

Tia: yeah and they were issuing new ones so often it may be even more worse.

Russ: hmm okay.

Tia: yeah, you'd have Deutsche Markís that were okay one day but the following day were absolutely worthless.

Russ: now our dollar bills are backed by gold right?

Tia: uh-huh, to a certain extent yes.

Russ: okay but that gold amount they're backed by goes downÖ.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: and thatís why we....our values become less valuable.

Tia: thatís correct.

Russ: okay cool. So what about all the gold that we have in Fort Knox?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: thatís sitting there to back up our dollars then right?

Tia: thatís correct.

Russ: okay. Now, in looking at the future we need food, fuel, water and communication.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: then we can start working on putting money aside in coins or precious metals.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: okay. Now in Cambodia, when the
Keymer Rouge took overÖ.

Tia: the Khmer.

Russ: the Khmer Rouge, thank youÖ..the country collapsed.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: but people still used gold and silver at current market prices they received over the radio to buy goods and supplies.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: I'm assuming we can do the same thing.

Tia: yeah but the thing to watch out for is if they make precious metals illegalÖ.

Russ: right.

Tia: then you are in really deep trouble economically wise.

Russ: you mean like FDR did with gold?

Tia: thatís right. So what you do is you buy gold jewelry.

Russ: hmm, Johnny?

John: uh-huh, got it.

Russ: the man over there.

Tia: uh-huh, Mr. Gold Dealer.

Russ: okay, thatís a good idea.

Tia: because that way they canít take it away from you whereas coins and stuff they can take away from you.

Russ: okay, now on the currency with situation A, you mentioned that we donít have a problem with the collapse.

Tia: no.

Russ: okay, that's merely.....weíre working with the same currency we're working with now?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: just it's less valued or something?

Tia: yeah.

Russ: thatís how it is?

Tia: uh-huh, less valued on the economic international market.

Russ: okay, so in other words, the money I make at workÖ.

Tia: will still buy the same amount in your countryÖ..

Russ: right.

Tia: but if you wish to buy foreign goods, they'll cost more.

Russ: oh I see. But won't that encourage more domestic manufacturing?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: thatís good then.

Tia: yes.

Russ: bad for the world, good for us.

Tia: uh-huh. It's good for many things actually.

Nicole: talking about other currencies TiaÖ

Tia: uh-huh.

Nicole: you know theÖ.

Tia: Australian dollar?
Uruguayan Peso?

Nicole: yeah, you know the rates there?

Tia: no I donít, foreign exchange doesnít interest me that much. Iím more interested in stocks, bonds, shares, dividends, bull markets and this bull market has been going for a long time.

Nicole: can you find out the rate for the Uruguayan Nuevo Peso?

Tia: I can try. You want me to do that right now?

Nicole: oh, whenever youíve got the time.

Tia: okay. I was about to say, you want me to surprise you again with my computer skills?

Russ: that's alright love, you're doing good anyway.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, now something that we picked up from what's called I guess a patriot radio station? I'm not exactly sure what that is, I'm going to look more into it.....is that the CID, which is theÖ..let's see if I've got it right here real handyÖ

Tia: Central Intelligence Department?

Russ: no.

Tia: division?

Russ: no. Oh here we go, right here, is Criminal Investigation DetachmentÖ..

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: and they've been hitting up some of the supply houses on the East Coast and rounding up all military meals or ready to eat claiming that they were in civilian possession and they were stolen. But basically what we're looking at is, why would the government be trying to take all the MRE's?

Tia: I donít know, Iíd have to look into that and I do have lots of things to look into at the moment.

Russ: well donít worry about it, I was just kind of curiousÖ.

Tia: speculating? Hmm, very good areas of speculating.

Russ: that's I was thinking. Just thought I'd add some data to you your current list of things that you might not have on store.

Tia: oh believe you me, I have lots of things in store. I've got a copy of the state of the nation address waiting for me when I get back.

Russ: did he do that tonight?

John: yeah, yeah.

Russ: oh, how we doing?

John: things suck, things are not well.

Russ: okay. AnywayÖ.

Tia: like you didnít know that already huh?

John: yeah, like he's telling us something that we didnít already know. Sad but true.

Russ: well I thought we could start working on making our own homemade MRE's because we've got a whole list of stuff we could work off.

Tia: uh-huh. Okay, running out of time here.

Russ: thatís all Iíve got.

Tia: oh, okay. Any other questions?

John: yeah, with turning off the internal dialogueÖ.

Tia: uh-huh.

John: in our minds.....

Tia: uh-huh.

John: do you guys have anything on tape, does Russ or Mark have anything on tape regarding that?

Tia: I believe thereís an astral travel tape kicking around.

John: okay.

Tia: which switches it off because youíre listening to the tape.

Russ: Mark's got it.

John: okay. All right, thatís what I needed to know, thanks.

Tia: yes? Oh okay.

Nicole: can you read my mind Tia?

Tia: a little, you have a very close frequency.

Nicole: meaning what?

Tia: you have a very close frequency to Markís.

Nicole: oh.

Tia: thatís why Mark will turn around sometimes and ask you if youíre okay even if he hasnít been looking at you. Have you noticed that?

Nicole: yeah.

Tia: uh-huh and sometimes you can tell that even though heís bubbly and bouncy that heís not really.

Nicole: well, we want to take him...tell him we want to take him out this Friday night and I was only joking around that we were going to get him drunk, we just want him to come out.......

Tia: uh-huh.

Nicole: and enjoy socializing?

Tia: yes, Mark is a bit of a recluse at times isn't he?

Nicole: can youÖ..?

Tia: talk him into it?

Nicole: yeah.

Tia: Iíll try.

Nicole: he only has to come out and drink water.

(Tia speaks to one of the cats in Durondedunn)

Tia: where did he go?

John: heís right there underneath the pyramid, just out of arms reach.

Nicole: what did you say to her?

Tia: I told her to be patient and relax.

John: you scared her, she ran away.

Tia: I did not scare her. If I could make Markís fingernails do what mine do Iíd scratch your eyes out for comments like that.

Nicole: I got my claws out the other day Tia.

Tia: oh you did, tell me.

Nicole: I was just being a bitch.

Tia: well it is fun sometimes isn't it?.

Nicole: it wasn't meant to be fun.

Tia: yeah, but kind of feel good afterwards a little bit.

Nicole: yeah.

Tia: uh-huh. OkayÖ.

Nicole: bye.

(Tia says goodbye in Durondedunn)






(Karra ends up what's left of this side)


Karra: hello.

John: hello.

Russ: hi Karra.

Karra: greetings.

Russ: how you doing love?

Karra: oh tired.

Russ: Iíll bet, running into the session alone?

Karra: uh-huh. Okay what can I do for you guys?

Nicole: what does Rodan mean?

Karra: I donít speak foreign languages, I only speak English and Sirian.

Russ: what's the word?

Nicole: Rodan?

Russ: sounds like a monster on Godzilla.

John: yeah, it's a Japanese monster, thatís the one thing that came to mind for me.

Nicole: oh.

Russ: anyway, Karra? You checked out my genetic essayÖ

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: no worries?

Karra: not at this time. You've got to stay away from certain things though.

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: increase your intake in tomatoes, they might help a little.

Russ: okay, what should I stay away from?

Karra: hmm, well coffee for one. Yes I know.

Russ: how about tea?

Karra: tea? You could cut down on.

Russ: okay.

Karra: uh-huh but all the things that I would take away from you would take your enjoyment out of life.

Russ: well I'm not worried about it, I know which ones they are.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: okay.

Karra: you can enjoy some of them don't you?

Russ: oh sure.

Karra: uh-huh. Oh wellÖ

Russ: oh well.

Karra: okay.

Russ: what about Carrie?

Karra: Carrie, yes. There's a problem.

Russ: why?

Karra: Iím still getting reports at this time.

Russ: okay.

Karra: uh-huh.

Nicole: Karra?

Karra: uh-huh?

Nicole: you know about gingivitis?

Karra: thatís a old gum ailment thatís been done away with.

Nicole: well I think Iím getting it.


SIDE ONE ENDS




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SIDE TWO


(Treebeard comes on to channel)


Russ: greetings.

Treebeard: hello. We talk?

Russ: uh-huh.

Treebeard: okay. You prepared?

Russ: yes.

Treebeard: okay. Hmm, first I will say hmm, am focused.

Russ: excellent, itís good to see you, itís been a long time.

Treebeard: hmm, by your counting or mine?

Russ: my counting.

Treebeard: hmm. Okay, I start by saying it is honor being here?

Russ: itís an honor to have you here.

Treebeard: thank you. I endeavor to act with one appearing of age beyond rejuvenation? We talk, act as two together?

Russ: uh-huh.

Treebeard: okay. Pulling on vast experience of long time, I think wise to pontificate my thought processes on subjects to be answered afterwards. Thoughts being of understanding and growing and time of being great length to grow to reach objective of learning and comprehension of important and weighted matters. With great life and understanding comes certain knowledge of patience to a point. Patience being prepared to sit down and listen and think andÖ..little wordÖdwell upon processes of comprehension and patience. Patience being important to learn. It is necessary to wait questions before giving answers. When talking in a manner of generalities, it is important to be general. If specified, then problems occur in not answering question. When given time to facilitate discussions, it is wise to weigh the answers and read all possible meanings which brings into play generalities when speaking. So by talking in a general way on the topic and not deviating is important for the coming processes which you will be able to participate and act as a facilitator for this process. It is from great learning and time that I think and weigh answers. In past I have been accused of not being focused on matters, this is far from truth. It is my processes of analyzing, thinking, weighing, speculating on possible replies that gives the appearance of not focused. In fact great focus is my problem, not lack thereof. So, when asking questions concerning botanical natures, I appear unfocused to outside, independent, unlearned observers but answer now given on how interaction of your species to animal forms and plant forms is given. Plants go through cycles like you do. Rhythmic cycles that are affected by your solar disk as you are. So plants track in their motions and always face towards your solar disk. This is part of their nature. Also, like you, you become less active as less of your solar disk is in your sky. And when it becomes of a lower ambient temperature they, like you, again become less active until they reach point of dormancy. Dormancy comes in two phases, normal cyclical dormancy on minimal scale, the rising and falling of the solar disk and on a larger annular cycle being the cycle of rotating away to your solar disk. Having studied over great time, I have noticed that in your summer you are further away from solar disk then in your winter but this is affecting the end cycle as the axis of your planet is tilted further away at a more acute angle then during your warm seasons. This answer is a reply and a demonstration on answering a general question. The question that was asked was, "how do plants go through their growth cycles?" That is a general statement, general being lack of specification on what species of plant. Are we discussing trees, bushes, shrubs or are we discussing annual plants that live their cycle from one year only and then return in seed form? So, my answer is also generalized. This is important for you with discussions that if you ask a general question you get a general answer even if it is not thought of as a general answer. It is necessary when facilitating in a discussion that you specify exactly what the question is. For example, how do you feel? That is a general question with many answers and meanings. For example, do you feel through the neurons within you, the nerves within your extremities or, do you feel as is stated on your planet with your mind meaning your emotional status or, how do you feel about something? How do you feel? That means many different things and the answers can be many and varied. If you take a specified question how do you feel through your fingers? That is a specified question. So it is important for these conferences and discussions to specify. Now, as I am stated I am focused, I have always been lucid. Now, ask your questions.

Russ: all right and that was quite informative actually. I do have some questions on those. First off, with the conferences coming up as you mentioned, the questions such as how do you feel when asked in such a general way is in another words we ask it as if it means nothing, itís just something we say throwing it out letís say, how do you feel? And itís just a basic question. With the conferences, is it safer then to ask a more general or a more specific question?

Treebeard: it is best to start off with generalizing on questions. Later it is better to specify exactly what the questions are. In my quick thinking, it is necessary to say when you start off by generalizing, you will receive many different answers. This will tell you if the hosts are conscious or not conscious or if they are letting the participants speak unfiltered.

Russ: hmm.

Treebeard: in analyzing possible questions in a hasty manner, I see how you will be able to determine if the hosts are aware of what is going on or not aware. This will be evident from A, the quickness of the reply and B, the construction of the sentences that will be replied. For example, how do you feel? I will wager that 80% will say, "I feel well". That would tell me that they are either semi-conscious or conscious and are putting in their personalities. If the reply is as I would expect from the Zeta Reticuloids, "please specify question more accurately", youíll be aware that an analytic consciousness is involved. And, in analyzing the question even on a non-deep processes of analyzing, you are aware that you are dealing with a different perspective and consciousness.

Russ: so in essence there will be also a couple ways that this could be answered. It seems to be as for example with you, a longer lifespan or a longer time lived brings out more patience as opposed to someone like ourselves who have a shorter lifespan, we lack more of the patience. So perhaps a older lived race might think a while before answering.

Treebeard: yes.

Russ: hmm, okay.

Treebeard: but that is just the start of a answer. A short word is never acceptable in giving a answer, there are no such things as a yes or a no answer if you think carefully. I have noticed and observed in your species that you are rapid in your replies and therefore do not analyze and do not speak either truthfully on your feelings or you say things that you regret later. If I was to ask you a question, for example, did you do well at your place of earning? Your answer would beÖ.

Russ: yes indeed.

Treebeard: that is a short, quick-thought answer that says nothing. So by watching, thinking and analyzing your reply, you have a conversation that is informative and entertaining. Short answers having lived to the age that I am to me shows lack of, lack of......I am looking for a word that is not condescending......lack of comprehension.

Russ: uh-huh.

Treebeard: also it shows a hurried nature which at times can be appropriate but in a relaxed environment is unnecessary. I have also through many years of observation before I retired and watching certain individual areas on your planet, have observed that differences in speech and thought patterns and pride in abilities varies from location to location. I have noticed that countries connected with the Imperial Empire of Great Britain have the ability to hold intelligent, long discussions yet countries that are either of French tend to be short and abrupt and not think things through. Areas that have been on their own or independent for a while seem to have the ability to answer without thinking and therefore decrease their fluidity in communication and blur languages. Next statement please.

Russ: okay. With the United States being a ex-Imperial Great Britain colony, are we similar to them or are we somewhere between the independent or the French and Great Britain?

Treebeard: I would say that it would be necessary for you to take a lesson in your countryís history. Your area was never a part of the Imperial British Empire.

Russ: hmm.

Treebeard: to those that believe that it was, I will state simply and basically, when your colonies were a part of the British Empire it was not a Empire, you understand?

Russ: uh-huh.

Treebeard: so that is part of the problem of understanding, it is important to have facts when you make questions. To answer your question, it is independent and therefore there is a lot of, again I hate to sound condescending but it is something I have observed and listened to from your news media's, your entertainment mediaís and general observations, inane drivel is transmitted frequently in your discussions.

Russ: quite true.

Treebeard: I feel that that is a waste of communicative and intellectual abilities. It is sad and is beyond retrieval in the near future. I remember hearing a young gentleman say, "me doth think he does complain too much" and that in itself is what I see from your area of the planet.

Russ: hmm.

Treebeard: much is said but nothing is intelligible.

Russ: uh-huh. Now a lot of our ability to communicate is based of course on our third dimensional existence. With the addition of telepathy, is communication then becoming a more fluid form of discussion then or how does that compare?

Treebeard: despite popular thought processes happening, it increases the linguistic ability and necessity to specify. As you project a thought processes, it is necessary to be specific and eloquent in how you communicate your words. If you communicate poorly on a physical and telepathy level, it leads to all kinds of misunderstanding and lacking in comprehension. It is important to specify exactly what you say. In specifying, it makes it easier to know exactly what is said. More youthful individuals transmit feelings and emotions as well as statements, generalized statements. This blurs the lines between eloquent communication and communicating on a normal level. Specifying exactly what is said is important.

Russ: uh-huh. Okay, so with the key ingredients of these conferences all being based on a physical communication, then it's more important than ever toÖ

Treebeard: specify exactly.

Russ: right, because you donít have things like telepathy and such toÖ.

Treebeard: that is correct. It is important to, as I have stated and something that I dislike to do is repeat myself but I will, it is important to weigh the answers and the questions. In understanding of these discussions, a misplaced word can slow down or reverse the conference processes. So it is important to specify exactly and to answer after weighing each question. In weighing the questions, you can formulate a coherent and intelligent answer.

Russ: hmm.

Treebeard: last question......

Russ: okayÖ.

Treebeard: please.

Russ: what about plants if I could? When they, plants as you mentioned work, we were discussing animals last week and on instinct. Are plants similar in their instinctual levels as far as their relating to the world around them?

Treebeard: hmm, this I cannot give you a direct answer. A, due to the vagueness of the question and also to my lack of knowing what was said last time that you communicated with us. I will state that I will dwell upon this and remind you that your time measurements are meaningless to me as I do not measure in your mode of measuring. I measure time in cycles and processes of the plants that I take care of and communicate with. It is part of the understanding that in these processes, that if I give a statement that is quickly answered, I give inaccurate answers on these passions that I have.

Russ: all right. Iíll see if I can reword the question though to a more definitive one.

Treebeard: okay, first I will make a deal with you.

Russ: okay.

Treebeard: if you ask a vaguely worded question, I will answer with one word, specify.

Russ: all right, fair deal.

Treebeard: okay, let us proceed. Reword the question in a way that is specified.

Russ: okay. Last week, Alana and myself discussed the instinctual communications that animals have and their abilities to be able to......the differences how they communicate or think. Some think and have an intellectual ability to understand the world around them and some react strictly by an instinctual level that is merely based on their emotions or fears or happiness. With plants, I have always wondered about their ability to understand the world around them and whether or not they have a sense of their surroundings and are able to form aÖ..

Treebeard: specify. I will change the rules slightly, you are generalizing with the term plants.

Russ: plants. Okay, daisies, I like daisies.

Treebeard: daisies are non-sentient and non-comprehensing.

Russ: ahh, okay.

Treebeard: however, one of the reasons I am here on Hades Base is aÖ..I think it is time that you know who I am related to. My great, great, great, great, great, great grandniece is a student of another distant relative of mine on the base. My most favorite great, great, great, great, great, great grandniece has my talent. My talent is, and this will answer your question as you try to process who they are, is I penetrate and slide under shields. No, try again.

Russ: hmm.

Treebeard: my most favorite grandniece by six has done that to you many times but plants, trees, trees are my most favoriteÖ..no, you are closeÖ..are my most favorite of all the fauna of your planet and my planet because like myself they dwell, they think, they feel. Of all the fauna, those are the most highly evolved. But, it does not come in a sapling, a yearling or a century. Your trees that you have near to your residence have long, long time to go before they get to that level of awareness.

Russ: hmm.

Treebeard: having dwelled upon your area when you are asked questions, the nearest that you come are the few groves of ancient trees and the ones on your recreational area that you indulge in. I believe the name you have given them is.........sorry it eludes me.

Russ: sequoias?

Treebeard: not the ones in your recreational area (Heavenly Ski Resort).

Russ: ahh, those ones.

Treebeard: Bristlecones.

Russ: hmm.

Treebeard: very ancient and learned but seldom communicate in a intelligible way. They are not sentient but they have vast knowledge if you know how to listen to them. Now, with my ability and great experience, I was able to probe both you and the friend that you had with you. We will save that for a time when I have not pontificated on such a level.

Russ: excellent.

Treebeard: now, who is my greatÖ..I will not repeat that as that bored you, grandniece?

Russ: Tia.

Treebeard: I do not have pointed ears.

Russ: well yeah. I thought Kiri and you said no........Lyka.

Treebeard: no but when you said Kiri you had part of the statement.

Russ: hmm.

Treebeard: she has a student.

Russ: oh, you mean Miranda?

Treebeard: not soÖ.

Russ: young.

Treebeard: young.

Russ: it'd beÖ..is it? Oh, Leah.

Treebeard: yes.

Russ: it is Leah?

Treebeard: yes.

Russ: ahh, okay.

Treebeard: and who is my most favorite greatÖ..?

Russ: grandniece.

Treebeard: correct, who is she that has my ability?

Russ: well I thought it was Bunny.

Treebeard: yes.

Russ: oh I did get that right. Oh, because thatís one where I thought of and you said, "no, but you're close".

Treebeard: you did not specify her name, Bunny is her nickname.

Russ: oh, Huna.

Treebeard: correct.

Russ: ahh.

Treebeard: again, Huna is her stage name.

Russ: oh.

Treebeard: but Huna is acceptable.

Russ: okay.

Treebeard: thank you.

Russ: thank you.





(The Baron is co-ringmaster with Treebeard for this session and makes the changeover to Omal)


The Baron: uh-huh.

Russ: greetings Baron.

The Baron: ahh, was ist los? He doesÖ..I find humorous his reference to juvenile of great age ja?

Russ: yeah.

The Baron: when I that age, I will be dust.

Russ: when Iím that age, Iíll be in another lifetime.

The Baron: when you that age you'll be dust also, different other body.

Russ: different other body, at least different other body.

The Baron: yes, as I had fun poked at me in morning? Different other fellow donít you know old chap. Okay, I am not speaking much as can man and myself act as double team ja?

Russ: ahh good, okay.

The Baron: okay?

Russ: works for me.

The Baron: so I will be putting on next person and discussing thought processes concerning probing ja?

Russ: excellent, I look forward to it.

The Baron: ja, danka.






(Omal wraps up the session in the time left)


Omal: greetings Russ.

Russ: greetings Omal.

Omal: I am on briefly as you are aware
Madam ambassador is discussing something with the Man with the Can.

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: heís not big on nicknames but he has taken a liking to his nickname.

Russ: oh okay, well it works.

Omal: it makes it easier for us to communicate with him.

Russ: uh-huh, I imagine his name is fairly unpronounceable for me.

Omal: yes.

Russ: I thought so, excellent.

Omal: it would be appropriate to either address him as Sir or mister.

Russ: okay. I would ask how you feel but I wonít.

Omal: please specify the question.

Russ: would you care for some orange juice? We have some fresh orange juice we bought?

Omal: not at this time......

Russ: okay.

Omal: not at this time, you remember the rule?

Russ: oh yes, thatís right.

Omal: yes.

Russ: okay.

Omal: otherwise I will be forced to do 20 press ups.

Russ: all right, fair enough.

Omal: okay first of all let us go over what the Man with the Can said. There isnít much that I can fault him on. He does have a different outlook on plant life. I thought that it would be appropriate to bring him in as his ability that was never discussed. If you remember it was alluded to vaguely......

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: is useful in research.

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: now, Iím going to quickly mention aÖ..I suppose I might as well use the jargon of the day and it is something that again Madam ambassador and myself have been working on.

Russ: no problem.

Omal: attention deficit disorder, have you ever dealt with it before?

Russ: Iíve never heard of it before.

Omal: okay it is a person of limited attention span. Now, having received reports that I requested on it, I have noticed two distinct classes. There are those that suffer that have been classified as attention deficit disorder......let me rephrase that, three categories......that are not. The second group is the attention deficit disorder which means that you have a limited attention span on things and will chop and change from topic to topic. Now, the second group comprisesÖ..let us say break them into three groupsÖ..80% of people diagnosed with it do not have it. 18% fall into group two that do have it and they are highly, highly intelligent. 2% have it and are of low intelligence or medium to low intelligence. At the moment I am aware of two individuals that you have come in contact that fall into both categories. A common problem and a noticeable one on the 18% is that they will talk rapidly and fast and jump from topic to topic very rapidly. They will retain all of that information. The second group will jump from topic to topic, retain nothing and repeat themselves, jumping in a circular motion from topic to topic.

Russ: hmm.

Omal: you have a question before I proceed?

Russ: what's the third group?

Omal: the third group is the 2%.

Russ: oh, thatís the 2%.

Omal: yes, the 80% is those that are misdiagnosed.

Russ: okay so the first group is basically just a short attention span.

Omal: yes.

Russ: all right and the other one is just highly intelligent but theyÖÖ.

Omal: no, the opposite way around.

Russ: oh, very low intelligence andÖ..

Omal: medium to low.

Russ: medium to low and they jump around topic to topic and thatís the 2%.

Omal: thatís correct.

Russ: and then thereís the 18% who are highly intelligentÖ.

Omal: correct.

Russ: and jump from back-to-back.

Omal: and they retain all the information that they learn and track the conversation. Now if you look at the 18% and what they do when they jump from topic to topic getting snippets of information and tracking it, that takes a lot of thought processes does it not?

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: which goes with theyíre highly intelligent.

Russ: well it's said that the brain can only hold what is it, seven things in its mind at once?

Omal: most will.

Russ: right, so these people are probably like twice that.

Omal: correct.

Russ: I see, so that would be like maybe Einstein or a TeslaÖ.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: kind of deal?

Omal: yes. There is a young lady that has not been in a channeling session for a long time that has that.

Russ: Bethany?

Omal: no.

Russ: oh, a long time huh?

Omal: after Bethany.

Russ: after Bethany, God, I can't remember now.

Omal: she is......

Russ: Liana?

Omal: correct.

Russ: ahh, of course.

Omal: which explains why you have your frustration with her is because of her bouncing from topic to topic way of going.

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: if you were to ask her about a discussion that you had the last time that you met, she will remember it.

Russ: hmm, sheís better than I am then.

Omal: she is highly intelligent.

Russ: oh so thatís the second oneÖ..

Omal: correct.

Russ: that falls into the category of attention deficit disorder.

Omal: correct.

Russ: I see, okay. I got the first one already.

Omal: okay. Now the third one is the one that involves a lot of work, a lot of patience, a lot of coaching and repetitive statements. Thereís not much that can be done to help them apart from look upon them with compassion and understanding and let them do and live in their world. There is mediÖÖ


THE TAPE ENDS


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