THE MONSTER SESSION- Channeled 11/05/96
Archivist Notes: This is one of if not the
only three part session we did in a single night
filled with a record number of speakers who provided
some incredible information for us to chew on. Far too
much knowledge was provided to do it justice in such a
small space but the drama amid the humor made it a
memorable session indeed.
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Tia: hello, greetings and welcome.
(Tia gets this marathon session started.)
Russ: yeah hello Tia, what are you talking to or who are you
Tia: I'm talking to Minerva.
Russ: oh, what's up with Minerva? (One of the triplet
daughters of Mark and Tia)
Tia: oh she wants to sit in the pyramid.
Russ: well, let her.
Tia: no, she gets all interruptive and everything.
Tia: okay, hello greetings and welcome to November the 5th,
1996 channeling session live from Hades Base. Tonight
present we have John and Russell Alan greetings.
Tia: did I get it correct?
Russ: well tell Minerva I said hi.
Tia: she's sitting patiently.
Russ: uncle Russ says hi.
Kiri: she goes.......(Speaks to someone on the
base.).....put those away, thank you. Okay, kind of like
that she's sitting.
(Speaks some Durondedunn.)
Tia: oh I see. Okay, questions.
Russ: well, politics and the elections.
Russ: your viewpoints on it and how we're looking now that
we have come up to the end of this for predictions and how
it's all working out?
Tia: okay, government's going to come to a standstill in the
next two years.
Tia: that is not a prediction. What is going to occur is
going to be quite messy.
Russ: now does it work better if the Republicans have
maintained control of the Senate and the House?
Tia: if they control the house, if they do not, then we go
to level II. (Of the Defcon
discussions from back then.)
Kiri: uh-huh. If not, then we maintain on level III but
we're hovering close to level II.
Russ: and you say it's going to come to a stop mainly
because of conflicts between the President and the Congress
or if they were all.....if the Congress had turned
Democratic and the president turned Democratic.
Tia: then we would've automatically have gone to Defcon two
without a shadow of a doubt.
Russ: okay, what would cause government to stop though?
Tia: I'll give you a clue, not guilty. "You are pardoned,
you are pardoned."
Russ: well that's a nice out then if that came in the first
John: how could that possibly shut down our government?
Tia: because the people would get upset, because these
people have been convicted and indicted of embezzlement, all
sorts of things, misappropriation of funds. The question
remains is, as I've stated in the past, is he really that
thick to not know what was going on around him?
Russ: well according to what you say, yes he was, Hillary
was the whole thing behind it.
Tia: uh-huh, but he cannot be held unaccountable.
John: yeah but the American public knows that already that
he's guilty of all that &^%$^& and they
overwhelmingly voted for him.
Tia: only 8% difference, overwhelmingly? That's not
overwhelmingly, overwhelmingly would be 20% difference.
John: well the electoral vote at least was overwhelming.
Tia: just 8%. That's not that big, it's not a landslide.
John: that's the popular vote, that's half our population
voting. Half of the voting population decided to vote, half
of the voting population decided not to.
Tia: uh-huh so therefore it is not a landslide victory, 50%
of the population that can vote did not, why?
Russ: they knew Clinton would win? What's the point?
Tia: no, they don't care anymore.
Russ: now there is a chance in your odds and calculations
that Clinton will not pardon anybody.
Russ: and what if that does not happen?
Tia: he's still going to get into a lot of trouble. Anything
that he does that involves possibly shutting down any
investigation, any stopping of wrongdoing or prosecutions of
wrongdoings is going to upset a lot of people in the
government. Ethically, the White House at this time has more
people indicted, more people under investigation, more
people mysteriously dying than all the other White House's
put together. So what is wrong with the situation, what is
wrong with the picture?
Russ: nothing's wrong with it, it's perfect. It fits in to
the exact pattern that we are supposed to be living.
Tia: that's right, the ones that we have discussed for so
long and the predictions or scenarios that we have worked
Russ: right so there's nothing wrong with it, it's the
beginning of our next evolutionary advancement process.
Tia: the way to look at it is, whatever happens, you guys
have got to survive it right? To learn the lessons.
Russ: right and to pass on the lessons.
Kiri: pass on the lessons, correct. It doesn't matter if the
house in the next elections in two years turns totally
Democrat and the Senate turns totally Democrat. The house
will probably turn totally Democrat. Now the problem I have,
and this is not related, is I can't understand why that a
group of individuals that are for want of a better word
morally bankrupt right? I mean you would not commit adultery
John: not at all, that's all relative.
Tia: yeah, but for power?
Tia: you would not sleep with your boss's wife so that you
could get a better position by her saying "yeah, this guy's
a real good guy, let's bump him up a bit".
John: no, I don't think I'd do something like that.
Tia: what about you Russ?
Russ: well the fact that I have committed adultery doesn't
count since it was with Karra I guess, I suppose not.
Tia: so but yet these people are doing it all the time.
Russ: well that's politics, neither Johnny nor I have
anything to do with politics. We don't care about all that
stuff, that's all third dimensional.
Tia: okay another way of looking at it is this oriental
gentleman, Young or whatever he's called. The one that
disappeared for close to a month? The White House knew
nothing of where he was.
John: I don't even know what we're talking about.
Tia: the Lipo
investigation? To do with money going into the
Democratic party from Indonesia?
Russ: oh yeah him, right.
Tia: yeah. Now the White House said that they had no idea of
where he was correct?
Russ: I suppose, I didn't hear that part of it.
Tia: yeah but the FBI, no the Secret Service logs confirm
that he talked to the White House nine times in that time
that he was disappeared.
Russ: 27 times.
Tia: 27 times, thank you, he visited nine times.
Russ: he visited nine times.
Tia: isn't that a little bit odd when the White House is
saying that they don't know where he is but yet he's
John: yeah, they do that &*^*&^ all the time.
Russ: a lot of people visit, maybe they just lost track of a
guy. A lot of young people go missing.
Tia: very likely, very likely. Sarcasm in my voice.
Russ: well Tia, last week we......you know I brought this
whole thing up with you on the fact that it doesn't matter
what happens as the fact that you know it is for our
Russ: but me and you got off into it and all kind of stuff
and this week you're agreeing with me.
Tia: no I'm not agreeing with you. I'm saying that...
Russ: you just said that it won't matter in two years
whether the house turns.....
Tia: well there is nothing that we can do about it. What I
would like, is something to change. The fact that I know a
lot of what's going to come, you don't. I want things to
change, I would love them to change. It is important to
create change. I really do want them to change, I'm
just......I cannot believe that people would fall for
Russ: well look at the alternative, Dole?
John: yeah Snow?
Russ: God, what a waste. I mean you give us somebody that we
can believe in and want to vote for sure, you know I'll
change parties in a hot second but this guy was a waste.
Tia: okay let's.....he's not very good at talking to groups
of people but he is a networker, he is a political person.
More than Clinton is, much, much more. Clinton is a showman.
Tia: Dole is a doer. Everything that Clinton has ever done
has been for show.
John: yeah but he won the election, so what difference does
all this make? Snow is retired, he's not going to do another
%$&*&% thing for the rest of his life. Clinton is
the president for the next four years or until he gets
Tia: don't underestimate Dole, don't underestimate him.
John: he's done, he's in his 70's he's in his you know.....
Russ: well Strom
Thurman is 93 and he just got reelected.
Tia: okay let's look at it this way Johnny, okay let's say
Clinton gets impeached right? Who's next in line?
John: well Gore of course, the vice president.
Tia: Gore gets dragged in, Clinton implicates Gore right,
who's next in line? The speaker the house is next.
John: yeah I'm well aware of our political system and how it
Tia: okay. So there's going to be a need for a vice
president if Newt Gingrich becomes president. I don't think
Newt Gingrich is going to accept the nomination for the
presidency. I think that he would nominate somebody that has
some experience. Now it is unlikely that Gore will get
dragged in but Gore will not get reelected because Gore
is......Gore has a problem, a very serious problem that
became visible in his last speech. Now what is your
impression of Gore when he makes a speech?
Russ: friendly, good-natured....
Tia: very stiff and formal.
Russ: reaching out the people.
Tia: very stiff. That is the reputation that he has, has
been very stiff and wooden.
Russ: okay but Tia, isn't personal enlightenment and
advancement more important than what the president is doing?
Tia: yes but there are other ways to achieve this goal.
Certainly they're longer but the fact remains that basically
the double standards are speeding things up. What is going
to happen is going to happen whether it is in two years or
six years, there's no stopping it. But the fact remains that
somebody that is a liar and a cheat and a murderer is given
Russ: so you don't think he has the best interest of the
country at heart?
Tia: no, he has the best interest of one person and one
Russ: but doesn't that follow suit with the best interests
of the country?
Russ: if the country falls to pieces than so does he. Now
why would him....
Tia: not necessarily.
Russ: why not?
Tia: if the country falls to pieces, he's the guy that tried
to stop it.
Russ: no he goes to pieces with everybody else first before
Tia: no, he would never let that happen.
Russ: yeah he would, because he would get blamed for it.
Tia: no he won't. I mean.....
Russ: I disagree.
Tia: that's your choice to disagree, but the thing remains
that this person has been given, he's been exonerated from
everything. You know he's been exonerated from murder,
he's been exonerated from adultery, not just once but many,
many times. He's been exonerated from drug dealing,
from laundering money, you name it, he's done it
that's illegal. What sort of standards does this set for the
Russ: he won't be part of the recovery. Like I say, he will
be the first up against the wall.
Tia: but his actions made it longer and harder. It's a moral
Russ: well okay, I don't want to get into the moral grounds
with you except for this once.
Russ: okay, and I'll try not to do it ever again but for
this once I'm going to stand up for the president and not
for what he's done or what he's going to do, but to what
it's going to lead to. Okay now I'm going to take us back in
a time a little bit back here to 1974.
Russ: Richard Nixon, okay?
Russ: elected to the presidency and you know at the time he
was looking like a great white hope.
Tia: he was elected in 1972.
Russ: '72 okay, two years later you know problems coming up.
So we're talking Whitewater I mean....
Russ: Watergate okay? Now, look at the aftermath of
Watergate. Now this wasn't probably as bad as what we're
going to be looking at in the future.....
Russ: as far as what happened from Watergate but, our view
of the presidency, our view of government had all turned
around 180° from when it was before he got elected to the
time when he got post elected, when he got impeached
alright? We saw the government could not function and the
country could not function with a president who was above
the law okay?
Russ: okay. Now I saw politics at that point become a higher
ideal than what it had previously been. Now with what we are
looking at in the future, a similar thing is going to be
happening. Clinton will show the world that he is above the
law, a second Nixon okay?
Tia: no he's going to make Nixon look like a wimp.
Russ: all right, even better.
Russ: because at that point again we'll see America and its
people believing then that the president has to answer to
the people, not to himself, but to the people and our whole
ideals of what the president should stand for, what
government should stand for will be refreshed and renewed as
it was after Watergate only more so because it will be so
much worse than what happened with Nixon.
Tia: no, no, no, no, no, no, no. The first part yes but the
thing is that you are forgetting certain organizations that
are almost at the point of revolution already. The Michigan
militia, all these militias are going to start arming
themselves really rapidly. Now we are not going to go into
case scenario C, not yet but if he is impeached right and
then found not guilty right for whatever reason, right?
Which has happened before that somebody that is guilty as
all hell gets off scott free. What's going to happen? You
are going to have a group of individuals going to say that
this is the biggest load of codswallop ever. That the
political system does not work, let's do something about it.
And they're going to take somebody that's been long dead as
their figurehead and his quote is "a little bit of
revolution is good from time to time".
Tia: uh-huh, this is where the problem start then. If he is
found not guilty, which is unlikely but there is that
possibility, then things are going to get really nasty
because the fact remains that he is guilty, a lot of people
know he's guilty, and they're just waiting for the reason to
join the bandwagon. There's a lot of people out there that
are out for themselves, there's a lot of people that are out
there for others, to help. This person that is in charge is
going to be a rallying call in the opposite for them. That
is he will be the focus of their hatred.
Russ: okay we're speaking of the militias and I was talking
Tia: hold on, hold on, I haven't finished yet.
Tia: if they join together, then the country is in great
jeopardy. There will be no United States, it will be a very
un-united bunch of individuals. Now this is where case
scenario C comes in the play. The scenario of mass rioting,
which there will be riots coming up. With the mass rioting,
mass exodus of the population, these are things to watch out
for. Precursors for it will be Clinton being impeached and
then exonerated. An increase in arms on the street, an
increase in violence, an increase in drug use. All these
things, and I'm not talking about a little bit of pot from
time to time, I'm talking about coke.
John: I know what you're talking about.
Tia: yeah, the heavy stuff, crank, all that stuff, that will
go through the roof, then the problems will really start. I
mean you're already close to a boiling point in the big
cities anyway. Who controls the cities?
Russ: government employees.
Tia: not the gangs? There's certain areas that the police
won't go into.
Russ: well there's certain areas that some police won't go
into but other police will. No place is un-policable.
Tia: I'd like to see you down in Compton.
Russ: I've been in Compton.
Russ: no, how could I be?
Tia: well....or East Harlem.
Russ: I mean I've been in Watts, I've been in Compton I've
been in Gardena, Hawthorne, lived in Hawthorne, Inglewood.
Tia: but they weren't that bad back then.
Russ: I can't see that they'd be any worse now, I would've
heard if they were worse and I've never heard anything
different from when I was last down there.
Tia: so drive-by shootings were a common every day
experience when you lived there?
Russ: yeah, pretty much.
Tia: people being shot every day was very much a common
common experience, that will spread. Anyway, I've done my
dissertation, given my monologue and dialogue.
Tia: as Kiri says sometimes, blow it out your ears Russ.
Russ: (chuckles) I thought that was kind of pointed.
Tia: don't bring my ears into this. (Her ears are pointed)
(Korton makes a rare appearance.)
Korton: greetings and felicitations,
Russ: greetings Korton.
Korton: greetings Russ, greetings Johnny. Let us proceed.
Concerning Tia's predictions, Tia and her emotions do
tend to get in the way from time to time but
under her emotional outbursts there is a lot of truth in
what she says. She is an invaluable supply of reasoning,
information and data. Sadly her emotions do get in the way
from time to time. What she states and addresses is quite
truthful, it is just the way she words things, that
is her way of doing things. To understand the upcoming
events and to make them more clearer, it is necessary to set
aside political interests and to address the problems as Tia
would put it of the moral situation. What is to
come, there is no way around it, it is coming at you
head-on. To use an analogy, it is a locomotive and you're on
catch it or hop out of the way. As it approaches, it is
necessary to be prepared. You are doing that, that is good but is
it necessary to put aside opinions and views and to work
together for the common goal. The analogy of a train on the
tracks is very accurate for the same effect for
those standing on the tracks, if they are hit by it, will be
the same. Not necessarily death and annihilation but
certainly a wounding of the psyche. It is necessary to be
adjusted and prepared for the transition. What is to come is
necessary. Questions please.
Russ: yes so we are in essence then standing on the side of
the tracks watching the train go by hitting people on the
Korton: no I said you are on the tracks.
Russ: oh, okay.
Korton: it is your choice on where you stand and what you
Russ: I was just trying to work with the analogy. All right
now what I said about an epilogue is sort of apt in the fact
that you are looking at an ending to this chapter in Earth's
Korton: no, this is the beginning.
Korton: it would not be an epilogue, it would
Korton: prologue like.
Russ: prologue, all right excellent. All right, now one of
the things that I see and we haven't discussed this but I
would like to right now is the group of individuals who are
more spiritually aware than others and their responses and
how they view and deal with the situation coming up.
Russ: now with Tia's prediction of the
government coming to a standstill, is it possible that
they're looking at now the government isn't behind us, we
have only ourselves and go within that point to find
Korton: yes, I would like to add to Tia's comments
that this current situation started 30 years ago with Lyndon
Johnson. "Let us take care of you, let us
supply you with food, housing, money, whatever you desire,
we will supply. You are no longer reliant on yourselves, you
are reliant on the handouts from the government." Does your
money that work for belong to you the government?
Russ: most of it belongs to us.
John: the government gets their fair share.
Korton: but who earns your money?
John: I do.
Korton: do you not have a right to decide how much you wish
John: I should but I don't, I don't have that right.
Korton: how much tax do you pay?
John: I don't know, I'd say 20%?
Russ: I figure mine at 17% if you don't count what I pay for
John: yes something like that, right in there roughly.
Korton: Russ is quite correct in saying sales tax, everything
is taxed. The heating that you are receiving is taxed, the
lighting that you receive is taxed, the food that you eat
has hidden taxes in it. As we have discussed in the past
Johnny about hidden taxes, things are hidden, everything is
taxed. Is it right that everything should be taxed?
John: I don't know, the way I was taught was taxes is what
you pay to live in a civilized society. And right now we
live in the greatest country on this planet.
Korton: and the greatest country is one of the greatest
debtors. If you become reliant on yourselves and work and
give what you think is fair to the government, not what they
want. How many stealth bombers does your country really
need? How many nuclear reactors does your country really
need? How many people does your country really need to go
around monitoring the quality of tree leaves? If you are
educated as you are, then you would understand that it is
wrong to pollute the air. You would understand as you do
understand that it is wrong to pollute water. After all, you
do drink the water, you do drink the air, you do participate
in what is going on but it is wrong to say that the
government must take care of you. The government is there to
work for you. You pay them to do what you wish, not what
they want. You do not pay them to take care of you, to make
sure you do not get hurt. It sounds more like to me a
situation that occurred eons ago before I ascended on my
planet when we were getting ready in the same situation that
you were. The planet was run by basically a organized crime
as you would call it, we called it a government.
We paid them to leave us alone, to let us take care of
ourselves. If we did not pay them, they would come in and
interfere and say that what we did was against their law,
that we had to pay them so that we could live alone. This is
what your government is doing with its tax systems. They are
cramping your life style to do what you wish with your
rights and this is creating more problems. When you pay with
sales taxes approximately 40 to 50% of your income, then
what does that leave you? If you earned 400 of your dollars
a week, you are in actual fact only have 200 of that which
means that you are cramped in your development. To develop,
you have to have more income but yet the harder you work,
the more they tax you. Tia informed me the other day that
Mark was very upset with the tax system. I did some
research. Do you know that Mark works close to 20 hours
overtime at 1.5 times his normal pay and ended up five
dollars poorer off than if he had worked just his normal
time, is that right?
Korton: is it right that your government penalizes you for
Russ: no but we choose that.
Korton: certainly you choose it and it is necessary to use
these analogies and to put this tone in my voice to get the
point across that your government has become corrupt. It is
wrong, it is not just one individual, it is the whole entire
organization. By taking down the one individual that is seen
as the cause of the problem, or the worst offender, then you
are taking down the whole entire government. Nobody will
trust the government again. This is what is happening. Do
you trust your government?
Korton: I will ask you again, do you trust your government
and tell me the truth?
Russ: well maybe I am naïve, but yes I do Korton, I do trust
Korton: I see different in you Russ.
Russ: well maybe but I can't put a finger on it what I
Korton: do you trust the Republicans?
Russ: I don't know enough about them to know whether I do or
Korton: so you distrust by your statement, you just said you
do not know enough about them. That is distrust, that is
lack of trust.
well a lack of knowledge.
Korton: so you distrust half
of your government which means that you distrust the whole
entire government because you cannot distrust half of a
person or half of an organization. Is that correct?
Russ: yeah I suppose. I've never really studied government
to know really the difference between the two parties as far
as what one wants to do compared to what the other do.
Russ: you know, when you listen to the
politics, you hear them going off on each other about
basically the same things.
Russ: each one is doing the same thing so for me,
Republicans or Democrats, it's all one big thing.
when I look at it, maybe it's just media but what is there
not to trust? What are they doing that is un-trustworthy?
Korton: that would take too long to get into. However, there
is somebody that is trying to do something about it. (Ross Perot.)
Korton: unfortunately he did not get very much
of the vote. The person himself is not suited for the job,
that is why they did so poorly but his concept is very, very
Russ: so with a different figurehead and more support, he
could be a true challenge or that party could be a true
Korton: that party could be the winners.
Korton: their ideas are very sound, they are a
very moralistic bunch of individuals however sadly, it is a
little too late. There is nothing that can be changed, the
emotional facts remain the same. People will be upset,
people will cry, trouble and storms are coming. More
Russ: yeah...oh, go ahead Johnny.
John: well instead of dwelling on politics and what we
already know, what else can we do that we're not doing to
prepare for the storms and the train?
Korton: there is not much more that you can do, you are
proceeding as we have suggested in the past with caution. It
is necessary for you to watch. Now is the time to be quiet
about your preparations and to be ready.
so don't address them on the Internet if it comes up
on a channeling session.
Korton: we will leave that to your discretion, situations do
change and individuals do become a part of things going on.
Last question from each of you.
Russ: okay well we brought up earlier the New Age movement
and how with the change in the government and its failure to
the people, people will be looking toward their minds now.
Where do we go as far as with our teaching to push this on
at an accelerated pace?
Korton: if you go on an accelerated pace, then you cause
more harm. It is necessary as has been stated in the past
and will be stated again, caution, take your time. If the
lessons are not complete, they will find other ways of
completing their lessons. Do not accelerate. I have told you
in the past, never hurry things, they will get there soon
Korton: young man?
John: I'm going to abstain right now.
Korton: okay, thank you.
Russ: thank you Korton.
John: thank you.
(Tia comes in to do the hand-off. )
(Tia says hi in
Russ: hi Tia.
Tia: okay, any more questions for me?
Russ: we'll work on it.
Russ: how's your emotions doing?
Tia: (says something in Durondedunn)
(Karra comes on in her turn.)
Karra: hello and welcome.
Russ: hi Karra.
Russ: I think I just got sworn at in Durondedunn.
Karra: I think she should never have told you what it meant.
Russ: well I think just the way she says it, you don't
have to know what it means to know what she's saying.
John: yeah the tone.
Russ: the tone is there.
John: the tone does a lot.
Karra: uh-huh. If she was to spit her spit out as she said
that, it would eat into things.
Russ: okay, that editorial, we've
gotten lots of comments back on it.
Karra: yes it seems like it was a raving success.
Russ: that was, from now on you get the co-byline on this
Karra: oh thank you.
Russ: well you write half of it.
Karra: well it is a team effort.
Russ: but that last part was truly inspired.
Karra: uh-huh, as I said at the time, I think that Mark's
changing of the wording was a little bit of a good idea.
Russ: yeah I agree.
Karra: looking back on it retrospectively, I don't think it
would've worked quite as well. It would've worked well but
not quite as well. It gave it that little....
Russ: yeah more of that, it takes you back in time kind of
Karra: well people do like nostalgia.
Karra: so how's it going Johnny?
John: good, how's things with you?
Karra: oh, couldn't it be better, could not be better.
Russ: well sweetheart, what are we doing about Christmas? I
don't think the Jeep idea is going to work.
Karra: I'm not really sure on how to proceed with something
Russ: I don't either.
Karra: it's been a long time for me.
Russ: well I'll think of something. (To John) I'm
trying to think of Christmas presents for the kids. I was up
on the Base where they're working..
Karra: yes I.....
SIDE 1 ENDS.
(Karra picks up from where she left off.)
Karra: .....as I said at the time, that would not be a
problem. The fact that it would get used by all the other
children as well would be the problem.
Russ: that's true.
Karra: it is more of an exercise issue.
Karra: I mean if you give them a little Jeep to drive, you
might as well chop their legs off.
Russ: yeah I know you brought that up and I have to admit
Karra: Kiri's handcart for Leonedies, that is a tool for him
that he uses less and less.
Russ: hmm, well what have they been getting into
lately that we could inspire them to get into more?
Karra: there's all sorts of things that they're doing in the
crèche at the moment. I really should spend more time down
there you know.
Russ: I should too.
Karra: they're making mystical animals at the moment is the
main thing that they're making.
Karra: so it's really hard to say what is the
right thing for them however on the 10th they will be at a
little birthday party.
Karra: uh-huh, maybe we'll get some ideas then.
Russ: okay, we'll shoot for that.
Russ: good. How's life going other than that, how's your
Karra: you know as well as I do how that's going, I
know you have to ask to fill in the tape.
Russ: I know.
Karra: and patience Russ.
Russ: you have lots of them?
Karra: I know you're trying to use humor tonight.
Russ: okay, let's work on the shielding that I taught to
Karra: okay, that's a rather new form that
we're working on there.
Karra: yes ummm.......
Russ: now is that a weakening form of shielding we're doing
but workable for someone who doesn't need real strong
shields or what?
Karra: it's more of a quick, easy arrangement.
Karra: something that is quick and easy to throw up, it does
not have great strength. You notice that.......
Russ: there's too many weak points in it.
Karra: yeah. You notice how Mark's coercive ability
is......she wouldn't last five seconds against Mark.
Russ: no I agree. But okay, let's how about this? Okay we
gave her a bridge okay? And now we're going to like cover it
with more substance as we go along here.
Karra: that's an idea Russ, do you get that?
Russ: you mean as reinforcement?
Karra: no, no you didn't get it.
Russ: no I'm thinking on another track.
Russ: well maybe we should say it out loud.
Karra: no, not at this time. Okay in the meantime, we
will continue working on it with her shields......
Karra: we need to continue working on getting her safe. Have
you and Mark discussed when to start her working on
Russ: yeah Mark wants to start her on the security stuff as
soon as possible.
then I assume the webpage stuff will come along after that.
Karra: uh-huh yeah.
Karra: okay, when is the date scheduled?
Russ: Mark wants to start with her this next week.
Karra: okay, so we'll work on that. Johnny?
Karra: do you have questions?
John: nothing right offhand, you guys have jumped around,
Christmas presents, Desiree, you know I am at a loss.
Russ: start a new one.
Karra: uh-huh, okay in that case, Russ do you have any more
Russ: no darling.
Karra: okay, all will become clear in a few.
Russ: well that's good, it's all mud right now. Bye.
(Tia returns as ring mistress.)
John: clear as mud huh?
Tia: I would love a cup of tea.
Russ: well go up and get some. (teasing her)
Tia: I was about to say can you pause the tape and put the
John: should I pause it?
John: all right we're back online.
Tia: okay good, good, good, good, good, good, good. How long
is that tea going to be? When it starts boiling correct? I
know you only just went and got it.
John: yeah it will be a another.......
Russ: 10 minutes?
John: five, 10 minutes?
Russ: it's got to steep first and all.
Tia: okay, okay do you have questions for me?
Russ: do you want to work on the news tonight, right now or
you save that for later on in the session?
Tia: we'll save that for later on.
John: would you like to suck on a teabag while
you're waiting? Just an idea.
Tia sticks her tongue out.
(Nazreal jumps in as the next speaker.)
Nazreal: yo Russ, dude.
Russ: who is this?
Nazreal: three guesses dude.
Russ: hi Kiri.
Nazreal: I do not sound like Kiri.
John: no you don't.
Nazreal: I do not sound feminine. Last guess buddy. Mr. Copilot
Russ: oh, hi Nazreal.
Russ: Nazreal, Karra's son, my ex-pilot buddy kinder dude.
How's it going dude? Close but there we go.......
Nazreal: I'd just hold it stationary dude.
Russ: dude. Good to see you man.
Nazreal: thought I would drop by.
Russ: ahhh well cool. How is your piloting going?
Nazreal: fine, shuttling okay.
Russ: what about search and rescue, still doing that?
Nazreal: yes, as well.
Russ: oh well that's good.
Nazreal: introduce to your friend please.
Russ: Nazreal, this is Johnny. Johnny, this is Karra's son
Nazreal: it is a pleasure of your acquaintance to meet.
John: yeah, the pleasure is also mine. This is the first
time we've met.
Nazreal: I apologize that my English has slipped badly due
to no one to talk with.
John: well why don't you talk to Russ more often?
Russ: I don't get up to the pilots off place too much
anymore. I know, I know, I should get back there once in a
while to say hi to the old gang.
Nazreal: just once in a month would be nice. Once in two
months would be nice.
Russ: just stop by the house more often and say hi to us.
Nazreal: I spend long time out on ships search and rescue
picking up missing pilots, picking up others.
Russ: were you involved in that big thing over Russia a
while back? BATTLE REPORT 10/10/96
Nazreal: I picked up very excited and confused pilot.
Russ: oh, from Siberia? I don't know if I congratulated you
but I certainly will now. Congratulations.
Nazreal: well. I have friend with me tonight that will help.
Russ: oh okay.
Nazreal: I have a friend with me tonight that will help.
Russ: good. Is this our other copilot?
Russ: ahhh, how is she?
Nazreal: she is happy.
Nazreal: she is also asleep.
Russ: oh, are you guys going to have children soon?
Nazreal: have? Had.
Russ: had. Good.
Russ: oh, you did, that's right I forgot. I've had so much
Nazreal: see what happens when someone professes friendship
and then sees you no more.
John: yeah, yeah I can see Russ doing that.
Nazreal: my child is six months old.
Nazreal: you did not come and see Marta when she was large.
Russ: no, I've been kind of slacking off going up on the
base a lot lately unfortunately.
Nazreal: yes. Thank you.
Russ: thank you. Nazreal, hold on one second and I'll be
Nazreal: I will, we talk?
Johnny: sure, so you're a pilot?
Nazreal: not the kind that I wished to be when I first
learned how to fly. I want to be hot dog pilot.
John: so you'd rather be a fighter pilot then doing search
and rescue and.....?
Nazreal: at heart yes. But search and rescue no glamor or
glory but very important.
John: oh there's no doubt about that.
Nazreal: more dangerous than fighter pilot.
Russ: way more dangerous, you've got a bigger ship.
Nazreal: and no armament.
Russ: no armament right and nothing to defend yourself with.
Nazreal: correct, just raw flying talent. I do my best.
Russ: well how you like the fact that Mark's going to be
part of the ground control system now?
Nazreal: I have thing to say, panic.
Nazreal: just joking.
Russ: of course.
Nazreal: I think he will do fine.
Russ: yeah I do too, I think he's going to commit himself to
it just like he does everything else.
Nazreal: yes, he throws his whole being into what he does,
keep up good work.
Russ: uh-huh, now maybe I can stop by once in a while if
you're ever going to be....
Nazreal: maybe? Maybe?
Russ: well I can tell we would enjoy talking shop once in a
while when I get up there.
Nazreal: once in a while?
Russ: well, more often now.
Nazreal: more often than what?
Russ: when was the last time you came and talked to us at
channeling session and said hi?
Nazreal: you know I do not channel.
Russ: I know, you're doing a great job now though I might
Nazreal: I have help.
Russ: ah, Kiri?
Russ: ah, well that's good. Still you are doing a great job
and we clap. Now I will be adding you into the web page, our
Internet source of news.
Nazreal: I am aware.
Russ: ah, good because you guys much important parts up
there as everybody else does.
John: what planet do you hail from?
Nazreal: I am native of Sirius, as is my mother.
John: oh okay, you are Sirian.
Nazreal: I was born there, my sister not. (Alana.)
Russ: no she wasn't.
Nazreal: see you.
Russ: bye Nazreal.
Nazreal: pleasure to meet you.
John: yes it's very nice meeting you. I'll see the next time
you come around.
(Tia comes on to hand off to Katrina and Kiri.)
Tia: one guest down.
Russ: so Alana wasn't born on Sirius?
Russ: where was she born at?
Tia: she was born way off somewhere.
Russ: when they were on duty or something?
Tia: I think before, I think she was about five years old
when they went.
Russ: wow perfect, that's a story I hadn't heard yet.
Tia: okay, should I put the next person on?
Russ: this might be a two taper.
(Katrina makes one of her only two sessions with Kiri as
Katrina: (says something in Russian)
Katrina: dosvedanya (says someting else in Russian) you
Russ: we'll try it with English?
Katrina: you speak, Kiri speak me.
Russ: okay, fair enough. How are you and Taal?
Kiri: Taal and Katrina are doing fine.
Kiri: she's sitting very close to me, I'm stumped on that
next one. Okay so what we're going to do is, you ask
questions, I'll translate into Sirian and then she will
Kiri: and I will translate back into English.
Russ: okay. Tell her congratulations on her being an ace
John: so Katrina speaks Russian because that's where she
Russ: she speaks Russian. And she knows she.....
Katrina: (speaks a more Russian)
Russ: right. Now she knows she got, you know she's
world-famous down here now.
Katrina: nyet, nyet.
Russ: yeah tell her it's on the webpage that she....
Kiri: hold on, hold on, we're having a communication problem
Kiri: I'm translating and she just butts straight in. She
goes no, as in surprise, shock, horror.
Russ: no, no she's, she's been made famous as her latest ace
making has been made worldwide knowledge here on
earth. BATTLE REPORT 10/18/96
Kiri: she says do you wish her to do victory roll over Red
Square? She actually said green square. But it's
Red Square I think she meant.
Russ: yeah Red Square. No that's all right.
Kiri: yes Kremlin.
Russ: yes it's the Kremlin. Let's see, Boris Yeltsin of
course is getting his operation tonight.
Kiri: he's had his operation.
Russ: yes it's very successful and anything happening with
her since then?
Russ: nothing, how's the Babushka?
Kiri: the little one misses his mother when she is on
Russ: so who takes care of him when they're gone, both gone
or does that happen?
Kiri: it happens sometimes and when that happens........I'm
not very good as interpreter or translator.
Russ: oh you're doing fine.
Kiri: and when that happens, yes it stays in the crèche, the
Russ: ahh, okay good and no more on the way I take it or
planned for a little while?
Russ: yes, I figured that part out. Yeah she
didn't like being stuck ground bound...
John: grounded, grounded?
Russ: yeah she was grounded for a while yeah.
Kiri: close to two of your orbits.
Russ: right, she's had to do shuttle piloting......
John: oh, right, right.
Russ: which is no fun. So is she training the new pilots at
Kiri: she trains very hard, fly harder. Sounded like her.
She flies harder than she normally would.
Russ: oh, okay.
Kiri: because she has a reputation as being an ace, she has
to be good.
Russ: okay, ask her if you could please for something I can
put in the Hades Base News in the news section for this next
Kiri: I will do so. The key to being a successful pilot is
not just skill and determination, luck and a desire to do
what is necessary to stay alive is the key. It is no good
feeling remorseful for the pilot that you engage. That they
would do it to you so you must do it to them. It is sad to
have to terminate a entity's existence but it is better that
you remove one instead of that one taking many.
Russ: tell her thank you....then that one taking....great,
that'll make great copy for the news.
Kiri: she says bye now.
Russ: bye Katrina.
John: congratulations on your last, last battle.
Kiri: message from her, thanks. Is that correct? Yeah.
(Tia returns once more.)
Tia: that is the hardest that I've seen Kiri work doing
coercion with Nazreal.
Russ: talking him into it, your nephew?
Tia: I set it up.
Russ: oh did you?
Tia: I got him to come down but it was agreed that she would
keep him going. That she would do all the keeping him in
place and keeping him feeling confident and comfortable
Russ: he seemed to be doing fine.
Tia: and then with.... well towards the end he wasn't, he
was starting to get an adrenaline overload. You noticed
John: was at the first time he came through Mark's body?
Tia: no, second time.
John: second time.
Tia: yeah, if you notice that Mark's feet and legs all
twisted up and everything. His toes curled and twisted, you
know kind of anxiety?
Tia: but and then translating for Katrina. Okay I'm going to
put on the next person.
(Omal shares his wisdom with us.)
Omal: greetings and felicitations.
Greetings Johnny, greetings Russ.
Russ: greetings Omal.
John: greetings Omal.
Omal: and how is it functioning?
Russ: well it's nice talk to you for now.
Russ: kind of a familiar voice for a change.
Omal: instead of one shaven head, young individual and one
blonde haired, swimsuit clad young lady.
Russ: Nazreal has a shaved head?
Russ: I didn't know that. How come, for the pilot's helmet?
Omal: yes, he does spend a lot of time on missions.
Omal: if, as he put it, you dropped by more often you would
know these things.
Russ: well I will be dropping by more often. You know it's
enough that I can get up and see Karra right now.
John: so you're hanging out in the pyramid munching some
flowers or what?
Omal: I am sitting within the pyramid. As for edible flora
and fauna, no. I do not participate very often.
Russ: okay, so where to now from what we talked with Korton
and Tia, another move from there or something completely
Omal: something completely different I believe is in order, something
like a man with three buttocks.
Russ: now for something completely different.
Omal: Mr. Arthur Frampton, is it true that you as it would
say, vis-à-vis your rump, is that seat comfortable Mr.
Russ: yes it is.
Omal: okay now it would be easy to say that you have a bonus
in your posterior.
Russ: ah yes it would actually.
Omal: would it be possible Mr. Frampton to vis-à-vis, is it
quite comfortable there?
Russ: oh yes, most certainly.
Omal: it would be easy to say that you have 50% bonus in the
Russ: you could say that yes.
Omal: you obviously need to refresh yourself on that Russ.
Russ: I haven't read it in a while though.
Omal: at that point you're meant to say "oh, I've got three
cheeks, an extra bum."
John: what is that, a Monty Python routine?
Omal: I thanked the young lady that handed me the
Russ: that's a good one. Shot the forward to me next time
and I'll work on my end.
Omal: she is not allowed to do that. You know that.
Russ: yes I know. I mean she could warn me and I could get
it brought up you see.
Omal: okay, now that we have dealt with the banana skin.
Omal: let us proceed.
Russ: all righty.
Omal: are you sure that seat is quite comfortable?
Russ: it's quite comfortable. All righty then, now one thing
I never got into with you really but I will now is, what
kind of news would you want to see on the webpage there?
Omal: what I would like to see and what actually should be
there are two totally different things.
Russ: okay, can we make them closer to one?
Omal: I did
not say that you are wrong in what you are doing.
Omal: my opinion is totally different from what is necessary
to be on there. What is on there is as it should be.
Information for learning, news and other information.
Russ: now one of the purposes the news is being used is for
a look at the base from a third dimensional earth
side point of view to show that well the base operates in
much the same way as we do. It's been a few people that I've
talked to, well one in particular, who feels that when you
get to sixth dimension you don't even have a body, you're
just spirit and you just operate in the aethers.
You know and it's like I'm trying to put forth the reality
that no that's not really the case.
Omal: okay, let us word it this way for the news and I
will go slowly so it is easy for you to transcribe it and
thus write it. I was also try to keep it short and brief.
Omal: okay, living on the sixth dimension is not a spirit
level. A spirit level is where you no longer need a body.
This happens at a much higher dimension, in fact the first
transition to a light being or a spirit being occurs in the
eighth dimension. The reason why sixth dimensional beings
have physical bodies is because living on the sixth
dimension is obviously the next level from the third
dimension. It is necessary for people to adjust to the
spirituality and consciousness before their bodies manifest
Russ: okay hold on for second, I want to make sure I get
this part especially.....consciousness......getting used to
the spirituality and consciousness.....
Omal: of being on a higher dimension. The sixth dimension is
a place where you learn how to use your abilities. That is a
brief explanation on the sixth dimension.
Russ: thank you.
Omal: the seventh dimension, and you think I would let you
get off so easy Russ?
Russ: no, of course not.
Omal: is a dimension where the first manifestations of a
higher, spiritual, physical vibrations occur.
Russ: spiritual vibrations occur.
Omal: unlike lower dimensions, it is very common for the
physical bodies to have a self-rejuvenating capability. Two
John: aren't you seventh dimensional?
Omal: that is correct.
John: I thought so, why aren't you hanging out in seventh
Omal: because I have to work in the sixth, it is
necessary for me to learn certain lessons. Okay Russ,
understanding the fact that a body has the ability to
rejuvenate itself, and in conjunction with, W I T H, the
learning of the spiritual control of the physical body. This
is the, T H E, final step before the body becomes
Russ: thank you very much.
Omal: you're welcome. The eighth.....
Omal: just joking.
Russ: very funny. I think that's enough news for this week.
Omal: Russell, take your arm and go.
Russ: yeah no doubt.
Omal: okay Johnny, you have questions?
John: I was going to bring up the seventh dimension but you
covered that pretty good.
Omal: yes, I think you might've picked up some of the
John: I think so.
Omal: having to speak slowly and think slowly is not
something I'm very good at.
Russ: you did fine. My working with shields on
Desiree this week made me a lot more conscious of my own
shields and when Tia was working on the political aspects
when she first came on, I was getting a headache and
shielding wasn't seeming to work, why is that?
Omal: I think she accidentally hit Mark's coercive mode.
Omal: Tia wasn't coercing you.
Russ: right, just an overflow of energy from that point
Omal: no, Mark's body was coercing you, she was.....
Russ: without his conscious awareness of it.
Omal: correct, Tia had activated it.
Omal: yeah she was, because we come through Mark's
body, we can use his abilities as well as our own. For
example if you take Kiri and insert Kiri's consciousness
into Mark's body, then she could astral travel in essence.
Russ: oh I see.
Omal: not as well as Mark because she has a limited working
knowledge of astral travel and also there would be a
conflict of habitation of the same body. Tia happened to
kick in her minimal amount of coercion which does not even
add up to a pinprick but because she was using her coercive
ability in a minute way, she happened to kick Mark's
coercive ability in.
Omal: and because she was so pumped up emotionally, she just
kicked it into fourth gear?
Russ: I get it because as soon as she left no problem, I was
back on track again but boy, trying to fight off that
Omal: yeah I think if she had kicked it twice more she
would've got into overdrive eventually.
Russ: well I assume we'd have to leave the room at
Omal: it would've stretched Mark's ability but it would not
be surprising on his coercive level. Okay do you have more
questions for me?
Russ: well we're getting a lot of people coming to us for
more and more answers. For example Mark for his astral
travel knowledge, me just in gratitude for the page and that
kind of stuff.
Russ: and this is on the Internet and I suppose taking it
now to a more physical plane as far as people that we deal
with on a daily basis is next in line?
Russ: this has been preparing us I take it as a teaching
Omal: yes it has or it is part of the teaching tool.
Russ: that is what I kind of felt like because my
communication skills have improved. I've seen Mark's improve
drastically or dramatically compared to what it used to be.
Omal: I think Mark's communication skill was very good, it's
just that he was lazy with it.
Russ: yeah, he just needed to polish it up a bit.
Omal: I think he needed to reawaken it would be a better way
of saying it.
Russ: well I'm glad he's working on the astral travel part,
that's good for him.
Russ: but you know the chatline and stuff he's getting much
more fluid in his conversations.
Omal: I think he's overcoming his shyness.
Omal: okay last question from each of you if you so desire.
Russ: okay, umm.......
Omal: Johnny, last question please.
John: about dimensions.......
there is an infinite number of dimensions?
Omal: ummm, yes in essence. The way that it works is that
dimensions are an infinite number due to the fact of there
is an infinite number of alternate realities. This means
that there are a infinite number of different dimensions. As
far as we know it is limited but our understanding itself is
limited. I could say that there are several thousand
different levels of dimensions, I could be wrong. Russ.
Russ: okay now speaking on different levels of dimensions,
Mark and I got into this conversation here last week and I
wanted to bring it up with you and that is concerning
Russ: I mentioned the fact that it really seems you know
from just an outward appearance which I know is false but
that there is no things to worry about. That what we're
looking at now is something where we'll be on an alternate
dimension that bypasses scenario B and go straight to
scenario A but a part of us will be on a dimension that hits
Omal: that is self-evident but continue.
Russ: okay of course this is strictly optimistic and kind of
idealistic but what are the chances of such a thing
occurring, odds wise?
Omal: ummm it is hard to say, I think Tia's predictions
rephrase that, I feel that Tia's predictions are pretty on
the mark. If you take out all her emotional outbursts and
look at the facts, Tia is pretty much on the mark and as we
are dealing with you in your timeline and Tia's predictions
are in your timeline, then it seems self-evident that that
that is the way it would go. The biggest problem I see
between you and Mark is the fact that you are not cautious
enough and Mark is too cautious and the two extremes are so
extreme that they do not balance each other.
Russ: hmm, I see, thank you.
Omal: you're welcome.
John: thank you very much.
Omal: live long, prosper and I'll be back.
John: see you around.
(Tia finishes up this side of the tape.)
Tia: Omal has left the building, yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Russ: that means he's still there.
Tia: yeah I know he's still there, I'm just being silly. How
about that cup of tea? Omal talking slowly has dried Mark's
throat something rotten.
John: back online.
Tia: okay we originally wanted the channeling session to
start at 7:30 at the latest because it is going to be a long
session. You know I told Mark to tell you how many people
were going to be present. I think I said, or told Mark
seven. We have three more people to talk. We've already had
myself, Karra, Omal, Korton, Katrina and Nazreal. That's
six. We don't have two more people, we have three more
Russ: well we'll just add more tape then.
Tia: yes, okay.
Russ: now what I was going to say, was okay Korton brought
this up and Omal brought this up.
Russ: and that is you know now Korton says at this point we
need to be more circumspect concerning our preparations for
Tia: uh-huh, no he didn't say circumspect, he said cautious.
Russ: I know he said cautious but I hate repeating
Tia: there is sometimes a reason why things are repeated.
Russ: yes but then Omal said Mark is too cautious
and I'm not cautious enough so obviously there is a meeting
Tia: he also said that you are two extremes that were unable
to meet because you are so extreme.
Russ: no he did not say that.
Tia: no he said that you are two extremes that do not
complement each other because you are too extreme.
Russ: right so....
John: I think he used the word balance.
Tia: yeah balance, I think you're right there Johnny.
John: I believe so.
Tia: anyway, let us continue.
so we need to get more closer to the middle.
Tia: uh-huh but there are certain things that I feel that
Mark is quite correct in that are extreme that you wouldn't.
Russ: but that's where we need to reach more of a middle
ground on see?
Tia: yeah but what I'm saying is that when Mark talks about
A'Le'Inn and not going there right?
Tia: and you talk about driving around and trying to get on
to the range right?
Russ: no just to the black mailbox.
Tia: yeah to the black mailbox. Isn't that a little bit two
extremes? I feel that Mark is quite correct in his idea of
avoiding the area like the plague at this time. Things could
change where it might be useful to go down there but at this
time with the amount of activity down there, I think it
would be better to not as it were.
Russ: and see here I'm saying well what difference does it
make because nobody's going to know it's me and Mark
compared to me and Joe Blow from Sacramento?
Tia: earlier on you were saying that you don't underestimate
your government and now you do. Please make up your mind,
what are you going to do?
Russ: no I said I trusted my government.
Tia: uh-huh but you also said you don't underestimate your
government, well didn't say it but you implied it.
Russ: did I?
you are underestimating them. Okay let's say they take a
picture of you right? And they identify you and they take a
picture of Mark but they can't identify him. Now think, what
are they going to do? Oh that's some person with Mr.
Hatfield there? What would you do Johnny?
John: well I don't know, I mean it depends on how
badly I wanted to find out who the person was.
Tia: exactly, but you would want to find out who it was.
John: well if I didn't want to find it out badly, I'd find
Tia: think like a Special Agent.
John: well I'd find out through Russ.
Tia: yeah but say you don't know Russ right? You've seen a
picture of him, it's identified as Russell Hatfield right?
But who is the person next to him? Now think as a Special
Agent. Would you want to know or would you just go "oh it's
John: depends on the circumstances. I mean you could abduct
Russ you know what I mean and try to get the information
from him that you wanted. You could tap his phone which
might already be tapped. There's lots of things you could
Tia: yeah but you would want to know who is the other person
Russ: I don't get it though Tia, do you know more
information about this than I do and you're not telling me?
Is that what this is or are you telling me without actually
telling me? I mean no one's ever implied that you drive to
the black mailbox and you get a photo taken. I mean it's so
far off the base that you're you know not even near the sign
saying warning you know....
Tia: everybody that goes up there, where do they go? They go
to the Little A'Le'Inn and then they go on the tour which
happens to include....
Russ: the black mailbox.
Tia: think about it.
Russ: yeah well it's a tourist destination. You get families
from Poughkeepsie coming by and checking out what the Little
A'Le'Inn and the black mailbox are all about. This is all
over the entire world that you hear about this.
Tia: yeah and you might get families from Belyaski coming
and visiting or Gorky.
Russ: so you're saying the government takes pictures of
everyone driving up and try to figure out who they are? It
sounds like a lot more like X-Files than it sounds reality
Tia: there are some truth to the X-Files and then there is
some way out, whacked out fantasies.
SIDE TWO ENDS
(Tia continues the discussion.)
no, okay as I was saying before we had to change the tape is
that if you go there you will not be able to go back because
there is the possibility that they will have your picture on
file. With today's computers right, you could have a picture
right and then a picture taken 10 years later and say "find
a match within specified parameters". Let say ears, eyes,
nose and length of the head. That would narrow it down from
maybe let's say 10,000 people that had visited there to
maybe 10 people.
Tia: now if you take into certain other characteristics like
colors of eyes, color of skin, height, amount of hair, body
temperature and so on, you'll probably narrow it down to two
or three. So the problem is that if you go there, you won't
be able to go back. Never assume that people that are
visiting there are just happen to be friendly locals or
friendly visitors. The thing is, believe no one in that kind
Russ: if that was the case then we're already dead meat
anyway. Because if the government is taking pictures of
everyone who drives up to see what's up with the black
mailbox, then basically everyone who starts accessing stuff
like the government conspiracy files like we do on the
internet is already a target. You're saying I mean that's
the kind of paranoia we're talking about here.
Tia: doesn't it fit into what I said earlier on?
Russ: well I still say we're talking X-Files here. It
doesn't make sense. The government does not waste their
resources in such a way.
Tia: no, they go overseas and get money and other people to
do it. Okay....
(Kornas stops in for a chat.)
Kornas: greetings and felicitations.
Russ: is this Taal?
Russ: no. Okay.
Kornas: your beloved should give you a clue.
Russ: no, and it's not soon enough for Tanaka to
Kornas: no. Hold on one second.
Russ: oh, Kornas.
Karra pops in: I was about to say, quick clue dear, oh my
God the boss is here. Thank you.
Russ: Kornas, duh. Sorry Kornas.
Kornas: greetings and felicitations.
Russ: greetings, it has been close to three years now.
Kornas: yes. I need from you a visitation to my research
Russ: genetic essay?
Kornas: your appointment card is waiting for you.
Russ: okay, it has been a while yes.
Kornas: do you astral travel in the chair there?
John: oh, no I don't.
Kornas: oh pity, never mind.
Russ: no you're lucky, you don't get the genetic essay, I
do. All right.
Kornas: you say that with the tone of disrespect, why?
Russ: no a
tone of anticipation.
Kornas: nervous anticipation.
Kornas: do you not like to visit for genetic essay and
Russ: oh I like to just visit, the needle's part
always get me a little bit nervous.
Kornas: does not correlate with information stated on view
Russ: oh. Well no, I will be there and I look
forward to finding out what my genetic essay has changed to.
Kornas: remember, I am seventh dimensional Russ, you
cannot pull the wool over my eyes as it were.
Russ: I know.
Kornas: not like Karra's or Kiri's or other of the young
people present here.
Russ: well just the last time I got my genetic essay, I felt
like a pin cushion.
Kornas: that is the purpose of getting genetic material so
that understanding and planning can be achieved. It is not
for pleasure of yourself, it is for the bettering
understanding for those that come after.
Russ: I understand, it is a necessary tool.
Kornas: that is correct, cynicism in your
Russ: no I'm really serious this time.
Kornas: does not suit.
not doing very well there Russ.
Russ: well when I get to seventh dimension I'm sure I'll do
Kornas: sarcasm, yes I have heard of that.
Russ: well, you haven't been around very much.
Kornas: I have been around plenty, I have other projects. I
keep an eye on things. Certain individuals supply me
somewhat reluctantly with information.
Russ: all right, I'll be busy tomorrow, will Thursday be
Kornas: Thursday will be fine.
Russ: all right, I'll stop in Thursday then.
Kornas: late, I will be working in my office as usual. Your
convenience at time Thursday of your evening or Friday of
Russ: it will be probably Friday morning because I'll be
working Thursday night. All right Kornas, it's a deal.
Friday morning, bright and early I shall see you at the lab.
Kornas: was that a tone of humor? I have heard of that.
Russ: no, that was actually I will see you Friday morning at
Russ: thank you Kornas.
(Tia takes over again.)
Tia: I hate it when it's that time.
Russ: yeah I do too.
Russ: and it's only been three years.
John: what's the purpose of this?
Russ: genetic assays are to find out your.......
Tia: psychic abilities and how you developing and if you
have any genetic flaws and so on.
John: oh okay.
Russ: last time had it I came up with my healing ability
showing strong, my communication ability showing strong,
various other things showing quite weak but my genetic...
Tia: essay was fairly clean.
Russ: my genes are real clean.
Tia: I wouldn't say real clean, they could do with a wash.
Russ: well my family is pretty well, you know we're
not major mutations in there.
Tia: apart from you.
hey, there's always got to be a black sheep
Tia: okay, two more people to go.
Russ: ah we're on a roll. Well one of them is Kiri so
that'll be half........that will be energizing more
than anything else.
Tia: (says bye in Durondedunn)
(Kiri comes in but has to leave again quickly.)
Russ: hi kiddo.
Kiri: yo dude.
Russ: what's up sweetheart?
Kiri: oh you know.
Russ: you're looking fit and fiddle.
Kiri: yes I've got some nice exercise in on my vacation.
Russ: did you now?
Kiri: no, just imitating my hiking. I had a chest harness on
here with stuff packed in it, I have my carry pack with
Leonedies sitting in the top, and then my pouches on the
side of that and my hip pouches and then I had my leg
pouches. It was.....
John: yeah you haven't been by to visit much.
Kiri: oh I've been pretty busy.
John: you've been busy huh?
Kiri: uh-huh, yeah. Hold on one second.
(Tia fills in until Kiri is free again.)
Russ: switch off, switch on.
Tia: she will be back.
Tia: yeah, her little pager went beep beep, beep beep, beep
beep, beep beep, beep beep.
Russ: who, Lyka?
Russ: who, Tia?
John: Kiri's beeper.
Russ: oh Kiri's beeper.
John: yeah, I caught that.
Russ: I didn't, I thought it was Kiri back in again.
Tia: do we sound so much alike?
Russ: yes as a matter fact, there are certain points
John: there's a similarity there yeah.
Tia: I suppose because we live together.
John: yeah and you're talking through a man's body.
Tia: yeah, true, true, true, true.
Russ: I mean from our point of view sweetheart.
Tia: there is no difference.
John: and you're talking through a man's body with a really
funny English accent.
Tia: it is funny, I find it amusing. Anyway okay.
John: I hope Mark finds my comment amusing.
Russ: hey babe, question for you.
Russ: I've noticed that I and probably Johnny and you even
have a certain ability to mimic things that we're around.
For example, if you were....let's see what happened the
other night? I watched a, some kind of a movie, oh no a
snowboard magazine I was reading at lunch. Very punk rockish
and mental deviated kind of snowboard magazine.
Russ: and I ended up.....and I was talking like that for a
while until I shook it off and it was like....
Tia: yeah but I don't talk like that dude. Yeah you never
hear me saying things like, it's real rad and gnarly to be
Russ: it's a total creation this time.
Tia: yeah dude.
Russ: but I mean, yeah we all kind of absorb our environment
from around us right?
Kiri: uh-huh, kind of, kind of. I'll be right back, I'm
having a semi-aquatic life form in Mark's throat.
Russ: oh okay.
Tia: I'll be back, keep talking amongst yourselves.
John: a semi-what?
Russ: frog in her throat.
Tia: told you not to put it on hold, I wasn't going to be
gone that long.
John: he told me to put on hold so it's either do I listen
to you or listen to him?
Tia: who's the ring mistress?
Russ: you are darling.
Tia: okay and don't you forget that.
Russ: I wouldn't even if I had bothered
to try to say I'm the ring mistress.
Tia: okay who's in charge of the channeling session?
Russ: yeah you are sweetheart.
John: but Russ lives here.
Russ: doesn't matter.
Tia: I'm in charge of the channeling session, I say who goes
on, I say when the tape gets switched off.
Russ: I'm only in charge the bills.
Tia: I wish you were in charge of Bill. Okay now.
Russ: so you find this happening to you then also?
Tia: no, not very often.
Russ: the absorbing of your environment?
Tia: no not very often. Okay.
Russ: well your environment doesn't change much anyway
Kiri's does on the other hand.
(Kiri smoothly makes the transition.)
Kiri: dude it does.
Russ: it does see?
Kiri: I do it because you have a difficulty distinguishing
between Tia and myself and Karra and myself sometimes dude.
Russ: well less Karra than you.
Kiri: there were times when.
Russ: oh well yeah there have been times sure.
Kiri: well that's going to goof things up. Oh well okay,
you've got my undivided attention.
Russ: okay sweetheart, I'm talking about the assimilation of
your environment around you.
Kiri: uh-huh, uh-huh.
Russ: and how each of us can go into a different situation
with different people and like chameleons, change to....
Kiri: no it's more of a necessary survival instinct to blend
in so that you act in a way that is non-threatening.
Russ: okay so, how strong is this going to come into effect
in our future?
Kiri: it depends on the situations and the environments. Are
you the majority or the minority?
Russ: okay so if you're in the minority?
Kiri: you try to change to be assimilated by the bigger
Russ: but hold your own views within.
Kiri: uh-huh, that is correct.
Russ: okay. Now what if those views contradict completely
with what you believe? Like say we get hooked into some
militia for some reason and have to blend in but yet the
militia's into this anti-black, anti-Jew, Christ
consciousness kind of thing?
Kiri: I don't see that you would be involved in something
Russ: oh it's just an example.
Kiri: uh-huh but that doesn't stop you from believing your
own beliefs in your heart of heart, speaking the party line
as it were but that's not really my field. You're asking
Tia's questions to me.
Russ: not really, not really due to the fact that you as a
coercer would have an understanding of this in the fact that
well now you have an ability you have absorbed into the
Kiri: I don't...
Russ: can you change the majority mind around back the
minority at all? Do you have a position you could actually
use to your advantage?
Kiri: yes and no. It is, do you want to endanger yourself?
Russ: well, how good are you?
Kiri: no, the question should be how good are you?
Russ: well that's what I mean, it's a rhetorical question.
Kiri: yes me? I could do it, you? I
doubt very much. Mark? Maybe. Johnny? possibly. You no
for the simple reason that Johnny knows how they work,
Johnny knows how their mindset is, you don't.
Russ: I'm a quick learner. I know, I get your point.
Kiri: can you afford to make the mistake? One mistake will
get you severely hurt, two mistakes we get you even
Russ: up against the wall.
Kiri: put it this way, after the second mistake there will
be no more mistakes. That's really goofed things up.
Kiri: you'll see.
Russ: okay of course.
Kiri: okay but in the meantime, do you have any questions?
As I've already been in once tonight and chatted briefly.
Russ: well, what's the news with your dad?
Kiri: oh he's doing fine.
Russ: and Sarah?
Kiri: Sarah is doing extremely fine.
Kiri: she said to say hello and to say doing fine. Her
implants don't hurt as much, (put in by the Greys.)
she absolutely adores my
Russ: well no doubt, sweet lady.
Russ: and life expectancy no change?
Kiri: no change.
Russ: no change.
Kiri: a year at most and she perfectly understands and
accepts that, in fact she told me just now that she had gone
Russ: from a convent?
Kiri: well kind of shopping.
Russ: I guess.
Kiri: she went out in to the woods and picked out her tree.
Kiri: uh-huh, an old wooden tree that is almost dead that's
going to be cut down anyway. She said that she wanted that
particular tree. It's almost a white oak and tomorrow she's
going to be looking at materials and stuff.
Russ: for her burial plot.
Kiri: well for her coffin.
Russ: her coffin.
Kiri: uh-huh, she understand what's happening, she's
adjusting to it. She wanted to know if I could get some silk
for the pillow.
Russ: yeah that's no problem.
Kiri: well she wanted earth silk.
Russ: yeah that's still no problem.
Kiri: I'll get her a bolt of it.
Russ: yeah I would, Japan would probably be your best bet.
Kiri: yeah. Well actually I was thinking from in the heart
Russ: good call there.
John: what did she say, China?
Russ: now does she find being on sixth dimension on Sirius
an easier transitional phase then sixth dimensional within a
fifth dimensional space on Hades Base?
Kiri: yes, she doesn't have the pressure on her skull that
causes as much pain. Also the medication that they're giving
her is taking away a lot of the pain and the fact that you
know she spends a lot of time following my grandmother
around and helping my grandmother with her chores which
keeps her active and the fact that she's outside breathing
fresh air under real sunlight, getting lots of vitamin C.
She's got tan lines finally, even though it's only faint tan
lines. She was sitting there and I was talking to her just
now and she goes, "look, tan line". And it was sort of like,
"where? I think you should go and take a bath", which she
thought was funny.
Russ: this was on the beeper that you got?
Russ: oh good.
Kiri: yeah, she beeped me, she thought the session was over.
Russ: oh no problem. So who's doing the coercing now that
you're gone, anybody?
Kiri: uh-huh, that's where I got it from.
Kiri: I'm better than grandmother, much, much better. But
she's got enough to...
Russ: well you graduated with honors sweetheart.
Kiri: uh-huh, she never went to that kind of school. Didn't
have the opportunity unfortunately. I think that if she had,
she might've picked up the trophy just once. I picked it up
twice. Champion coercer, two years in a row. As I think you
would say, a freshman and then a senior?
John: yeah, on a collegiate level?
Kiri: no planet level.
John: on a planet level.
Russ: now Kornas asked about whether he could astral travel
up to get a genetic essay.
Kiri: he's always looking for fresh material.
Russ: no doubt.
Kiri: are you willing victim?
John: is he some kind of scientist?
Kiri: he's a geneticist
John: geneticist oh.
Kiri: uh-huh, he's liable to walk up to you with a needle
about this long and say "how you doing?" as he slides it
into your gut. Or walk up behind you and go "Johnny, I'd
like a talk with you" and be standing right behind you and
all of a sudden you feel a very stabbing pain in the butt.
Russ: yep, that's how he got me.
John: sounds interesting, pretty wild.
Russ: yeah I went down to go visit Karra, here comes Kornas.
Kiri: walks up behind Russ and goes bop and then wanders
away without saying anything.
Russ: yeah lots of laughs with Kornas there. So how's his
genetic essay figure do you think?
Kiri: well we can't get Johnny up here to astral travel so
you know we can't get it into the factor.
Russ: now we've got a, we've got some monitors on him right
Russ: none of them will do the trick huh?
Kiri: we need actual genetic material or material from the
John: so what you're saying is that your astral body has the
same DNA as your physical body?
Kiri: has the information.
Kiri: uh-huh. Now by astral traveling up here, you can stay
in your astral form, we can condense it and throw in
molecules and stuff which will condense into the structure
that would be in your physical body and then we just extract
that by the same sort of method apart from you would use a
larger needle with a little bit of a electrical field to
keep it stable.
Russ: much larger.
Kiri: I don't think a needle this long is larger or smaller
than a needle this long.
Russ: I do, when you look at one, one looks to be 2 feet
long and one looks to be one foot long.
a perception kind of thing, especially in your astral body
which tends to magnify things.
Kiri: oh you're scared of needles.
Russ: big giant, bloody needles like that, hell yes.
Terrifies the ^&@$#& out of me. Okay, so how do we
get Johnny's DNA there.
Kiri: I wouldn't worry about it at the moment. You know
we'll get it when the time is right.
John: I guess I'll go have to go up there.
Kiri: no, no, well take the time, you've got plenty of time.
John: yeah I'll have to go up there and visit Kornas.
Russ: well Mark's working on the astral travel stuff right
now with the training program he's working on we'll put on
Russ: why don't you just ask him to have you
share with it?
Kiri: okay, I'm going to put on the next person.
Russ: okay sweetheart.
Russ: you look pretty regal like that, you know that? Kinda
reminds me of Karra a little bit.
Kiri: okay I've got to get comfortable here.
(Leonedies shares his wisdom.)
Leonedies: greetings and
felicitations and welcome. Tonight we're going to discuss
important issues concerning the evolutionary level of the
mind. It is necessary to understand the evolutionary level
of the mind as heading in a particular avenue of.....I'm
Russ: that's all right, mom called you on that one eh?
Leonedies: yes. It is necessary to understand that the
evolutionary levels of the mind is a necessary development
of the progress of the individual. In relationship to the
greater expansion of the mind, it is necessary to learn
patience in the process to be assimilated by the
developmental level of the consciousness of the group. The
group consciousness is reflected in turn in the individual
who in turn returns the complement back to the group by
expanding the group consciousness into a much more refined
level of understanding. The level of understanding is
refined further thus through analysis and internal debate
within the individual. The individual has a affect on the
large collective consciousness in the development of a
higher spiritual awareness.
Leonedies: questions. Did you not comprehend what I just
said, did you?
Russ: no I do exactly because this follows right along to
what I was talking about with your mother (Kiri) concerning
assimilating into a larger group where you do not, you're
Leonedies: no, it is not the same. You are talking of a
hostile environment. I am trying to explain that on a
spiritual level, that an individual can from a analytic
point of view affect the larger group if it is of the same
consciousness, group consciousness. The group consciousness
works in conjunction with the individual's consciousness to
expand itself plus the individual on a specific goal that is
designed by the group consciousness. The group consciousness
is avenue is reflected by the individual's actions, it is a
spiral that is climbing higher and higher. The more refined
and analytic the individual, the more refined and analytical
the group consciousness. The group consciousness in turn
helps to distill and refine to a higher-level yet again the
development of the individual. The individuals work
separately but together with the group.
Russ: okay case in point, the spiritual web chat that your
father (Mark) talks upon nightly down here......
is this a good example of what you're working with, or
Leonedies: no. It is a group of individuals with a specific
goal. That from what I comprehend does not have a specific
goal apart from the exchanging of ideas and information. It
is, my references are to a group of people aiming for one
particular point of like minds.
John: would that be like us doing the channeling?
John: all right and Russ and Mark and I working towards
a survival type mode.
Leonedies: that is correct. Working on a survival mode is
something that is necessary for an expansion of the
collective. The collective of your group of three may
increase. It is necessary for the collective consciousness
of....what is happening to the throat?
Russ: oh he's got a throat problem, it's dried up.
Leonedies: ahh okay, I will compensate. Okay, the collective
consciousness of the group of three may increase to a higher
number. You are working for a specific goal of survival,
enlightenment and exchanging of information for the specific
goal of achieving a higher level of evolution. In return for
this advancement to a higher level of evolution, you pay the
supplying information service a necessary boon of other
services for the development of other groups. The
information that is given to you by the parent group for
your survival and advancement is necessary for its own
survival. The necessary levels to attain in achieving the
goals is a mutually beneficial for those purposes. The
purposes in connect........why are things slow?
Russ: umm, third dimensional.
Russ: okay so the parent group is Hades Base.
Russ: how is it that we are helping with its survival?
Leonedies: by your understanding and returning of
Russ: why would they need our help?
Leonedies: because there are information factors that are
not readily available to the base.
Russ: ahh, so we increase their information as they increase
Leonedies: correct, that you also exchange points of view
which are useful for them and they give you points of view
that are useful to you. It is mutually beneficial trade.
Russ: can they measure the consciousness of the planet from
a small group like this?
Russ: they need a much larger group.
Russ: okay. But we, by working from our parent group, can
work on that consciousness.
Russ: I understand.
Leonedies: by your actions within your primitive Earth
communications and everyday actions in life and
mother be quiet.
Russ: (laughs) yes I understand.
Leonedies: it is necessary for your actions to be measured
and done with the best intent. It is no good charging into
actions like some large horned animal and smashing lots of
different little ceramic objects. You must weigh your
actions and achieve the goals that is desired and the
results will return in complement to you. Quiet. (Speaking
to his mother again)
Russ: okay. All right, now best point of view for achieving
that is the state that we're working on now?
Leonedies: correct, it is necessary for you to
proceed as you are. It is wrong for me to say do this, do
that or whatever. You have to proceed what is suitable for
you and is designed by the personnel up here on the base.
Russ: because the evolution the mind will take place no
Leonedies: I am afraid that I would lack the patience to
guide you. The fact that I lack experiences on a third
dimensional level that are readily accessible at this time
and what I can access is old and out of date would serve no
purpose so it's no use asking me the information that you
Russ: obviously but you are part of the parent group.
Leonedies: in a limited way.
Russ: so you are increasing your knowledge from your
corresponding with us.
Leonedies: correct, at this time I am the pupil
even though my intelligence is vastly superior to yours, I
need your lessons to help me to learn to return the favor.
Leonedies: thank you.
Russ: thank you.
John: thank you very much.
(Kiri takes over from her son.)
John: that was heavy.
Russ: he makes a good pupil.
John: that was heavy. And the way he started out, I mean he
was just reeling.
Russ: that's the way his mind works. And a lot faster
actually, he probably slowed that down to get to our level.
Kiri: yes. If you'll notice....
Russ: mother be quiet.
John: that was great.
Kiri: if you notice to start off with, his mouth moved a few
was him adjusting.
Kiri: and I let them go as far as I could but I don't, I
have put my foot down sometimes.
Kiri: I mean the fact that he told me to be quiet three
times, the fourth time he started to think it was all right,
no that's it, finish up and it was sort of like no. It was
sort like finish up.
Russ: because he was learning as fast as he could as we
John: feisty little guy, ain't he?
Kiri: yeah, and you know he talks fast as he is analyzing.
Russ: yeah because I mean what we're doing here in slow
motion to him.......
Russ: he's picking up and reading 20 million different
things into it.
Russ: but hey, his evolution is a lot different from ours so
how can we comprehend where he's up to?
Kiri: that's correct.
Russ: now he is going to be instrumental in our future
though I have a feeling.
Kiri: uh-huh, I think he drained all the energy out of the
Russ: it's asleep?
Kiri: shhh, can we have some water in there? Cold, take it
from the bathroom there but yes, your question before you
run upstairs and I'll answer it loudly.
Russ: he is going be instrumental in the future that we will
have to do.
Kiri: he could become one of the pupils, if you want to run
upstairs I'll speak loudly so you can hear. Take it from the
Russ: I thought he was going to be when the teachers.
Kiri: he could be one of the teachers that will help later
on through channelings and through correspondence one way or
necessary for Leonedies to first of all learn your earth
communications, your earth thought patterns so that he can
slow himself down to be able to talk at a measured rate
which is understandable and thank you, that is
necessary for understanding.
John: that makes sense, after all he is a super operant
Kiri: correct and he does bang on sometimes. I can say that
because he's my son and he can be very condescending and
John: well there again I can see that......
Russ: he has a right to be. I mean when he says you know, "I
am the pupil even though I am vastly superior in knowledge
", yeah of course you know?
Kiri: uh-huh. He's true but he could've worded it better.
Russ: not really, because...
Kiri: oh Russ, that's arrogant, arrogant and blunt.
John: he's blunt, yeah.
Kiri: no tact.
Russ: I mean look at how young the kid is. I mean I agree
Ashtar wouldn't come in and say the same things in the same
way but Ashtar has many millennia of experience more than he
Kiri: yeah whereas Leonedies is blunt and to the point.
Russ: but he won't be always.
Kiri: I hope not, I hope not.
Russ: well you've got Mark there as a father, he's third
Kiri: yes and Mark is totally the opposite that he'll beat
around the bush.
Russ: but doesn't Mark have, doesn't he get lots of input
Kiri: yes he does, a lot.
Russ: that's what I figured.
Kiri: and Mark is very strict with him. If he starts to talk
too fast or communicate too quickly or attempt to start
probing, Mark will turn around and say "no, stop it" and
walk away and that is the worst punishment for him because
basically what Mark's doing is shutting off his
Kiri: that he has to find somebody else to talk to because
he wants to learn you see? And it is taking away that
learning you see? So he gets upset right and he's
learn't to stop Mark from walking away is to behave in a
much better way but yet I bring him into the channeling
session and he behaves as if he's interrogating.
Russ: reminds me of remember, Johnny Five from......
Kiri: "Short Circuit".
Russ: "Short Circuit",
"Input, I need input."
John: oh okay the......
John: the robot yeah.
Kiri: yeah exactly, exactly.
Russ: need input.
Russ: session over?
Russ: session over?
Kiri: no not yet.
Russ: oh okay.
Kiri: we've got one more speaker.
ushers in the last speaker.)
I'm going to put on the last speaker.
Russ: okay, I didn't think there was one.
is, the last speaker showed up.
Russ: there is now.
this has to be a new record.
Russ: ten? Oh yeah this is definitely a new record.
John: yeah, this is a new record.
(Alana wraps up a very long session.)
Alana: hello, greetings.
Alana: come on.
Russ: it's not Karra.
Alana: no it's not Karra.
Russ: it's Alana.
Russ: that's what I thought. You have your mom's way of
Alana: well I am my mother's daughter.
Russ: yes you are and your brother was on earlier so we get
the whole family on tonight.
Alana: oh he was?
Russ: yeah, Nazreal came in for a while.
Russ: coerced horribly by your aunt. Johnny I'd like you to
meet my bondmate Alana.
John: hello, I think we've met before haven't we?
Alana: yes we have once.
John: yeah I thought so.
Russ: I wasn't sure.
John: I thought we had.
Russ: I hate to be the antisocial person.
Alana: yes I thought I would drop by.
Russ: well thank you darling, good I have questions for you.
Russ: now I've been reading a book written by a Earth author
down here named Ann
McCaffrey called the "Dolphins
Russ: okay, and if you haven't got up on the base I'm
certain I can have it sent up.
Russ: and it involves another planet where Earth's colonists
go to to settle down and take some dolphins with them.
Unfortunately though they lose communication back with Earth
and in the course of some 2,500 years, forget all about
their origins and where they come from or anything.
Russ: and the dolphins through this 2,500 years evolve, they
were treated with something called meta-synth which help
them develop earth languages, or English to speak English.
And there used to be dolphins and their dolphineers which
were their human counterparts that would work with them. And
in this book it shows how 2,500 years you know the dolphins
reestablish their communication with man and working with
them on determining currents and various places where the
fish are thriving and this kind of thing.
Russ: but I'm wondering is where your studies are taking you
to, is that a similar route that you are going with these
Alana: yes and no, what we're actually doing is we are
studying the next evolutionary step for the dolphins. I
communicate as best I can with the Sirian dolphins.
Alana: that is obviously verbal communication as well as
Alana: I can tell them what to do in Sirian, the fact that
they can't respond in Sirian is besides the point. They
respond as I have said in the past telepathically.
Alana: what we're trying to do is by introducing a
population or pod of earth dolphins is to see how
spiritually developed they are. Like you have helped to
create a Guardian race, they are helping to create a
Guardian race here. The fact that most dolphins cannot
astral travel means that we have to get a resident
population up here for that purpose.
Russ: uh-huh, and how are those studies
Alana: they're coming along fine. I hadn't realized
Katrina's legs were quite that long.
Russ: they're pretty long.
Russ: yeah she's a very statuesque lady.
Alana: yes she is hmm, sorry.
Russ: that's all right, little woolgathering there I'm sure.
Now as you know, or actually I don't think you do know, in
March I'll be going down to Cancun, Mexico.
Alana: mother told me.
Russ: ahh and I will be going and visiting dolphins for the
first time in my life to actually go swim with them.
Russ: and I could go visit some
caged up dolphins somewhere I'm sure and get right......
Alana: no you don't want to do that.
Russ: but I don't really want to do that, I think the vibes
would be all wrong. I'd rather go visit them in their
natural surroundings much more conducive to.....
Alana: actually when you're in the water, it's hard to
explain, what I'd like you to do is to go with the caged dolphins
telepathically try with your mind to say that you are going
to visit other dolphins, is there any messages?
Russ: oh okay.
Alana: and then you go swimming with the dolphins right? In the
water and you relay the feelings and the emotions and the
messages and then you go back to the ones in captivity and
swim with those and make a fuss of them and give the
feelings that you have received but it could be a two-edged
sword. It depends on how spiritually they are evolved.
Russ: hmmm, it could be a good challenge though.
Alana: I will make myself available to discuss this, this is
something that is a torturous question to ask and I do have
other things on my mind. I don't want to be brought down to
a negative level of thinking at this time.
Russ: I understand, I understand.
Alana: she really does have long legs.
Russ: well I think it's a being you know the half-and-half
you know. (Half Sirian and half "Blue Guys")
Alana: and it's also the fact that the way she's stretching
her toes at the moment.
Russ: ah well that has probably something to do with it.
Alana: she's got them...if I can get the foot to
move like that.
Russ: oh okay, very good.
Alana: uh-huh, that's a Kiri designed swimsuit.
Russ: ah yeah.
Alana: hmm, matches the one I've got on. Okay sorry.
Russ: no that's all right. Now..
Alana: yes sorry.
Russ: is it this last weekend that was the Salmon Festival?
Alana: no it's starting this weekend.
Russ: coming up this weekend, that's what okay..........and
Alana: oh really, after your genetic essay huh?
Russ: yeah, unfortunately. Karra's making a salmon mousse,
what are you bringing?
Alana: umm, I'm going to do a stuffed salmon with nuts and
stuff and flowers. (See glossary)
Russ: oohh flowers as in THE flowers?
Russ: oh ho ho, this will be a nice little festival thanks
Alana: sorry, no pink flowers are in there, just red flowers
all down the innards.
Russ: all the red ones will be quite fine I'm sure, you'll
be the hit of the party. "Get the stuffed one, get the
stuffed one up, that's the one."
Alana: well I'm bringing three of them.
Russ: oh my God.
Alana: yes well I have plenty of tradeable
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