(Korton takes a rare turn at
starting the channeling session)
Korton: greetings and
Russ: greetings Korton.
Korton: okay, we understand you have a few
questions for us.
Russ: one or two, yeah.
Russ: well with dealing with Markís first.
Korton: okay, please proceed.
Russ: okay. His first question is, is in the
gray area, would he brake the same as in
Korton: no, the procedure is slightly
different. The way that you approach it is
when you travel at the speed of thought, you
travel in the same mode as it were in your
astral form with your arms outreached in front
of you but instead of increasing the energy
flow, you project or fire an energy source off
in front of you. You then detonate it........
Korton: which gives a wave at the same time
you start to brake in the normal mode and
hopefully, if your calculations are correct,
the braking and the impact of the detonated
energy source will hit at the desired point
where you wish to brake through into normal
space. If you travel at the speed of thought,
you brake in the normal mode, youíll overshoot
your target by a considerable amount as the
braking process is much longer due to the
Korton: even with hard braking you would still
overshoot your target.
Russ: okay, so where like in my far sighting,
Iím just sending a beam out to my
Russ: he's actually sending a beam out and
having it explode in front of him.
Korton: yes, this is what should be done to
brake when youíre traveling in the gray area.
Russ: I've got a ways to go before I do that
but he'll be happy to hear this. Okay the next
question is, at the speed of thought, is it
harmful to glow white hot at the edges?
Korton: no itís not.
Russ: okay. Is there a better way to work out
the time to the target in the gray area, i.e.
Korton: there is a formula to use but the
mathematical computations are extremely
difficult. If you are using the mathematical
computations, then you have to do it before
you depart, you cannot do it whilst youíre en
Russ: hmm, okay.
Korton: the way to counter this, not to use
it, is when youíre traveling to a known target
or known destination, the numbers mentioned
for example, you would do it by trial and
error either overshooting or coming too short
until you come up with the correct elapsed
time to the arrival at that particular
Russ: hmm, okay. It would take quite a bit to
try to figure it out beforehand.
Korton: yes. You however and the channeler are
not ready for the formula to work out the time
in such a situation.
Russ: okay. All right, now the next question
is, at what point does the speed of light
become the speed of thought?
Korton: when the edges around your astral body
stop glowing white-hot or continue glowing
white-hot and the rest becomes white-hot as
Russ: oh, I kind of had an idea that maybe it
was I think therefore Iím there?
Korton: not quite. Over a great distance that
would not work and in the short distance it
Russ: hmm, okay.
Korton: the way to explain the difference
being that a short distance is in your local
neighborhood, for example, your home planet.
Korton: and the further you go, the little bit
further it is, the little bit longer it takes.
Russ: okay, so heíll know heís reached the
speed of thought when the edges start to getÖ.
Korton: white, when the whole entire thing
goes white, the whole entire aura.
Korton: and you do not visualize your target
anymore, it is a pure mathematical objective.
Russ: wow, does that mean heíd be traveling
strictly in the gray area then?
Russ: oh okay. Now, is the energy buildup
harmful to him or to anyone else around him?
Korton: not him personally but objects around
can be influenced and damaged. Individuals in
the same area, depending on their capabilities
can be affected in a lesser or greater extent.
Russ: okay, now my questions. All right, why
did my watch gain twelve minutes this morning?
Korton: first of all, you speculate on what
you think happened. You have no explanation?
Russ: I have none, twilight zone time.
Russ: I have no clue, itís never happened
before and it didnít seem like I was do
anything last night that would make it do so.
Korton: there are number of possible factors,
the first one being that your batteries are
running down. Is this possible?
Russ: no, because it ran faster, I gained
Russ: it wouldíve gone slower if that were the
Korton: yes, correct. Another possibility is
that you accidentally had an energy buildup
that affected your watch, an uncontrolled
Russ: okay, because I was trying to far
Russ: and itís possible that yeah, I used a
loop. A loop would affect my watch?
Korton: if it was bleeding.
Russ: well, that canít happen to me.
(Russ starts laughing)
Korton: another theory is that you
accidentally made a time translocation and,
because you bleed so much energy, that when
you returned it bled over into your
Russ: that sounds more like it actually. Okay,
Iíll study it though for future reference.
Russ: okay, now then, the implosion I used
today when I went up there gave me solidity
but it was very brief and only temporary.
Russ: how can I increase the duration of it?
Korton: getting back to the first point,
concerning the possibility of a time
translocation. What you need to do is to sit
down and work out first of all if it was a
time translocation. Secondly, if this is the
case, you need to figure out how you did it so
that you can do it again. Experimentation in a
safe environment would be appropriate.
Russ: okay. Because I remember last night I
set my timer when I went off to far sight, it
started going okay, I was inside the pyramid
and then I fell asleep and woke up and it had
been an hour and fifty-three minutes had
Russ: and that was the point where I think it
went into a twelve minute overlap.......
Russ: so I canít figure what I did to make it
Korton: it is possible, as we said, that there
are variable factors that have caused this.
Russ: yeah this pyramidís pretty weird in some
Russ: could be just got mixed up in there.
Okay, so practice on the implosions.
Russ: okay, now, is the implosions Iím doing
helping me to get denser?
Korton: that is the purpose of them.
Russ: now the problem Iím having is that I
havenít connected the two and so my
visualizations I donít think are right so I
want to figure out how I should change the
visualizations to reflect that denser sense
I'm trying to get.
Korton: you need to make it more rapid and
possibly suck in more energy.
Korton: or, the other possibility, you could
slow down the visualization and visualize a
bit at a time until you have the whole part.
For example, going foot, visualize, pause,
one, two, three. Other foot, visualize, pause,
one, two, three.
Left leg, visualize, pause, one, two, three.
Right leg, visualize, pause, one, two, three.
and so on. You may find that you need to count
to a higher number or a lower number.
Russ: okay, now when I do the implosion, what
I can see is as an implosion is like a nuclear
reaction that doesnít explodeÖÖ
Russ: but implodes. But for that what I
visualize is that the molecules donít gain in
density but in actually they get less in
density due to the explosion itself demolishes
Korton: what happens in an implosion is the
energy is sucked in, it is a bit like a star
going supernova. Before it goes supernova, it
sucks in and gets denser and denser, it
implodes on itself. When it reaches a critical
mass, it then explodes. This is what youíre
trying to achieve.
Russ: is there a time lag between the point
where it implodes and explodes?
Korton: just a little, but it isÖ..
Russ: well in space a little can be a million
Korton: true but we are talking in terms of
microseconds and nanoseconds.
Russ: oh, so you wouldnít even notice the
Korton: no. It is possible that you need to
suck in more energy, more matter to get more
Russ: so when a star goes supernova, and it
sucks in, does that mean that it like
disappears first for a nanosecond.......
Russ: where you canít see it anymore?
Korton: you can see it, but it loses color
before it explodes.
Russ: how dense is that area where it loses
Korton: do you want it in your standard
Korton: if we were to put it down into numbers
we would be here for a considerable length of
Russ: letís say how many planets, Earth sized
Korton: again, you would have the same
Russ: a lot then.
Korton: a lot.
Russ: okay because I was thinking maybe one or
two, quite a few. All rightÖ..
Cork: well it shrinks, a star will shrink to
about the size of your planet before it
explodes when it goes supernova.
Russ: okay, so therefore what Iím doing is
seeing the molecules get compressed?
Russ: so in another words, when Iím sitting
there bleeding like heckÖ.
Russ: and I go ahead and do the implosion,
itís basically I reach out and suck in all
that energy Iím bleeding outÖÖ
Russ: and suck it back in.
Russ: now then, my problem is Iím sucking it
back into a central pointÖ.
Russ: so youíre saying it would better to suck
it in to different pointsÖ..?
Korton: no, Iím not saying that it would be
better to suck it into different points, I am
saying suck it in as you have been doing into
a central point because that is a necessary
way to do it.
Korton: but you need to suck in more energy.
Russ: oh, even more.
Russ: and then spread it out.
Korton: no, donít spread it out yet. Detonate
it and then it will spread out naturally by
itself to the desired effect.
Russ: okay. My next question is, should it
phase into my chakras and all my body parts
like the same way I do in healing, whereby
seeing the details in each and every part of
Korton: yes it does. Yes you should but it
should be extremely rapid. Again we are
talking in microseconds and nanoseconds. But
this is not too import to start off with, that
it may take more than a few micro or
nanoseconds, it may even take a whole second
or maybe even two to start off with. But when
you get down to the point where it appears to
be instantaneous for you, then you have
achieved, not perfection but close to it.
Russ: ohhh. So, I see. So once it all sucks in
it explodes slightly as it spreads out. Not
really an explosion per se, but just more of a
bleeding into the rest of my body.
Korton: yes. This is because, as we discussed
in the past, a type of shielding that you use
briefly for that purpose being like a suit of
armor, but with the mirror surfaces on the
inside. You can do this by visualizing until
you get it down and then when you have it
perfected you do not need that type of
shielding. The shielding is to protect not
you, but those around you.
Russ: got it.
Korton: I think step four that you are finally
starting to comprehend the explanations of the
Russ: yeah, for some reason Iíve never heard
of the suit of armor with the mirrored
surface. I know weíve talked about itÖ.
Russ: and I know Iíve probably got notes on it
and tape on it I haven't transcribed it or
remembered it so I havenít been using it.
Korton: ahh, okay.
Russ: itís good to go back on some of this
Korton: yes it is.
Russ: .......with mirrors inside.
Russ: okay, great. All right, my next question
is, there is a girl that we had here a week
ago who Iím going to be hopefully guiding into
doing far sighting.
Russ: she needs a guide, now Mark guided me
but I havenít guided anybody else really per
se, how would I guide her?
Korton: sit down and talk with the channeler.
Russ: okay and where would I take her?
Korton: not here yet.
Korton: as you do not have the energy level is
spare as it were.
Korton: it would be like the blind leading the
Russ: okay, I barely have enough energy to get
Korton: you take her locally. You take her to
start off with a short distance. For example,
from your place of abode to your place of
Russ: oh okay.
Korton: and then, having taken her there a few
times so that she has built up her stamina,
you then take her from your abode to her
Korton: a few times. And then you start
traveling to destinations of her or your
Korton: again, extending the distance,
increasing her stamina until she reaches the
desired point where she is bored with
traveling locally and wishes to go further
afield. Then you get back to us and consult
with us and we will decide on what to do for
the next step.
Russ: okay, excellent.
Russ: and that concludes our questions.
Korton: okay. We have plenty to dwell on
matters that we will elaborate on at a later
date when you reach the necessary points. As
always, it is a pleasure to take time off to
sit down and discuss matters. Wednesday night
if I am available, we will discuss your
upcoming trip to Alpha Centauri.
Russ: okay great, I look forward to it.
Russ: thank you Korton, I appreciate your
Korton: youíre welcome.
(Omal takes over as Korton
Omal: greetings Russ.
Russ: greetings Omal, howís it going?
Omal: functioning within specified parameters.
Omal: and how is it functioning with you?
Russ: excellent, excellent, definitely within
Russ: though Iím trying to get more specific.
Omal: uh-huh. We are accessing files of memory
recent.......hmmm, what is a Vulcan?
Russ: a Vulcan would be a alien who played a
science officer on one of our entertainment
Omal: ahhh, yes, I believe we've discussed
this before in the past.
Russ: Mr. Spock, right.
Omal: yes, that springs to mind that we have
accessed here. Was there a movie "The Voyage
Russ: yes, thatís right, "Star Trek Four".
Omal: uh-huh, recent memory.
Russ: oh, he just watched that?
Russ: oh bummer, I missed it.
Omal: uh-huh, it is a very illogical
(Russ chuckles at that)
Russ: yeah, heíll like that one.
Omal: is that a human emotion?
Russ: that was a humorous emotion.
Russ: yeah, weíve been in deep thought
Russ: going into questions and studies that
aren't normally dwelled upon......
Omal: such as?
Russ: well for example, if you remember in the
entertainment sections since we've been going
into that, a book that Markís been reading
concerning the wizard rig.
Russ: the book that it came from, called "The
Many Colored Land", we were noticing the
correlations between us and you guys and the
humans from the 20th century going back to
primeval days, to those aliens living back
Russ: and how they had enhanced abilities,
mostly using a golden torc and that the humans
came from the 20th century and learned how to
use these abilities and enhance their own.
Omal: uh-huh and you are saying that there is
Russ: yeah there is, it was unique what I
happened to think about tonight.
Omal: okay, please elaborate.
Russ: well, how in the book, the humans from
the 20th century were helped to achieve these
goals by they were giving torcs that helped
them enhance their mental faculties.
Russ: here weíre given lessons and training
that helps us do the same thing.
Russ: and that the humans in the book were
able to finally integrate successfully into
the alien culture of the primeval days.
Russ: and here, weíre doing the same as
weíreÖÖat least Mark is and Iím working on
itÖÖ..integrating into the culture on Hades
Omal: uh-huh, I can see where the correlations
occur, however we do not have any artificial
stimuli to increase our capability.
Russ: right, but the mind would be even be
Omal: oh, correct.
Russ: far more capable of doing that by
Russ: and then there are a few more
correlations such as the one master far
sighter and everything in the book was named
Omal: just minor correlations.
Russ: yeah, minor correlations.
Russ: so what is the program for this evening?
Omal: it is free question time.
Russ: oh good.
Korton: it is a free time for discussing
matters that are irrelevant, idle chitchat,
entertainment purposes, this humorous
Russ: oh good, is Karra around tonight?
Omal: yes she is.
Russ: good, Iíve got a poem for her this
Omal: okay and I have a question for you.
Russ: fire away.
Omal: okay, it is not so much a question as
in......okay, hold out your handÖ..
(Russ starts laughing)
Omal: and manifest.
Russ: a penny?
Omal: a penny.
Russ: a penny. Okay, I'm going to try
something different this time, Iím going to
try to bring it down from fifth........
Russ: that we discussed last time.
(there is some quiet time as Russ attempts to
manifest a penny)
Russ: I felt a little help on your side too
Russ: thank you and yes, from fifth it feels
little bit easier.
Omal: uh-huh, okay.
(We both start to chuckle)
Omal: sorry, it is my time to have some humor.
Russ: no problem, Iím glad you can have some
humor once in a while.
Omal: to continue, we shall sit around the
coffee table later on when everybody is gone,
Korton and myself and a few others and we
shall enjoy ourselves discussing this
Russ: well Iím glad I could help. Okay, now
then......oh yes, subject on the gentleman of
the blue persuasion.
Russ: do we have a projected schedule for
Omal: yes, this next coming channeling
Russ: on Wednesday.
Omal: which will take place after the hour of
Russ: after eleven?
Omal: yes. So you must be up here or the
channeler must be up here by 11 oíclock at the
Omal: preferably just before......not
sooner.........say five minutes before at the
earliest, but not after the hour of eleven.
Russ: okay, perfect, that will be easy to
Omal: so you have a five minute gateway or
portal or window or whatever you wish to call
Russ: okay great. Yeah, there will be quite a
few questions on that night.
Omal: yes. We have everything set up, they are
collecting together information so that night
we will get straight down to business. There
will be time for a little communication on the
humorous side and we shall proceed with
business as planned.
Russ: excellent, I look forward to it.
Russ: does he have a name?
Omal: they havenít decided on who shall do the
Russ: hmm, okay. Now then, is there a way that
I can get in touch with you from down here if
I need to for some reason?
Omal: yes, just hail me.
Russ: oh, okay.
Omal: well actually silent admiration will do.
Omal: just call me, call my name.
Russ: all right. I won't drag you from
anything important I hope.
Omal: if you need me then that is important.
Russ: okay excellent. Normally I wouldnít but
just in case I want to know that I can.
Omal: uh-huh okay, you can.
Russ: okay good. Thatís about it for all Iíve
Russ: anything else for me?
Omal: yes, we were handed a report concerning
the channeler that he was using
coercion......yesterday I believe?
Omal: can you explain the events around this
as we were unable to ask the channeler when he
Russ: ahhh okay, that will be easy enough.
According to his description, his boss was in
an altercation with this gentleman and the two
of them were getting into quite heated words
and at one point it became a physical
confrontation and Mark happened to walk up on
it at just about that point. And then
apparently Mark reached out with his hand onto
the gentleman's shoulder and pretty well froze
him in his tracks right there. He turned
around and at that point Mark locked eyes and
gave him some heavy-duty aggressive
Russ: which pretty well calmed him down and he
was then escorted off the property.
Omal: uh-huh. Okay, thank you very much.
Russ: my pleasure. And I was using coercion a
little bit tonight on these cats.
Russ: I find it much easier than humans.
Omal: they do not have the problems that you
concern yourself with, humans as a species.
They are very focused animals. For example, if
a cat wishes to catch a mouse, that is what it
Omal: which means it is easier to coerce.
Russ: so in another words, the lack of
attention span in humans makes it tougher to
Russ: hmmm, so if in sometimes in coercion, it
would be good to like coerce them to get their
Omal: it is more the coercer, not the person
being coerced, but the person coercing that
needs to practice on the attention span.
Russ: oh, more focused?
Omal: uh-huh, exactly.
Russ: ahh, I see.
Russ: all right, thank you Omal.
Omal: right, we will now hand over to the
light entertainment section.
Russ: okay. I look forward to next Wednesday,
that's going to be quite an interesting night.
Omal: yes, it will be. Have a lot of recording
Russ: yeah, I just bought five new cassettes
so we'll be set for plenty of recording time.
Omal: you may need them.
Russ: we got them.
Omal: okay. Have an enjoyable evening and
(Omal suddenly grabs the mic and speaks into
Omal: I will be watching you watching me.
(Russ starts laughing)
Russ: bye buddy.
(Karra finishes up the
rest of side one)
Karra: greetings Beanpole.
Russ: greetings Karra. How are you doing
Karra: well if you were to go solid you would
be out of luck tonight.
Karra: and for the next week.
Russ: oh, well that wonít stop me from trying.
Karra: no but there are other ways of making
Russ: thatís true, you have been doing fine
lately helping me with my healing and stuff.
Russ: my leg feels much better today.
Russ: thank you very much.
Karra: you want another demonstration on
focusing healing energies through the hands?
Russ: no, I donít think Mark could handle
another one of those.
Karra: why not?
Russ: well his hand was pretty well fried up
after that last time.
Karra: it was?
Karra: what happened?
Russ: well he had bruises and stuff
Karra: oh Iím sorry.
Russ: well yeah, I knew you didnít mean to,
Karra: no I didnít.
Russ: coming from third, I think your energy
got kind of focused a bit through his crystal
and kind of did physical stuff to his hand.
Karra: oh, Iím really sorry.
Russ: oh thatís all right, itís nothing
permanent, itís just a couple days worth.
Karra: yeah, Iíll apologize to him.
Russ: yeah, he was a little worried about it
for second and I just told him, ďwell, itís
nothing major, just some energy that passed
Karra: oh I really am sorry.
Russ: oh I know you are. Donít worry, heís
Karra: oh good, good, good. good, good.
Russ: Iíve got a poem for you.
Russ: okay, to you actually.
Russ: it's called......
Karra: is it a love poem?
Russ: sort of, itís very short though
actually. Itís called "Karra, my lady of
ďIn a sense I have you, though a sense that I
do not possess. If here was there and our
roles reversed, the longing for your touch
would still be my test.Ē
Karra: it's very sweet, very nice.
Russ: thank you, it's very true too.
Karra: yes. Okay, let me seeÖÖ.
ďAll around ceases to exist and I look into
your eyes and I wish for that kiss. All around
does not matter, no star, no sun, just you and
me and the mist.Ē
Karra: no, Iím having difficulty making up
Russ: it sounded very nice though, very good
for spur of the moment.
Karra: well, I have other talentsÖÖ
Karra: I can cook too.
Russ: one day Iíll test it out here.
Karra: how do you like your water, burnt or
Russ: boiled lightly over easy.
Karra: ahhh, okay.
Russ: okay, on todayís far sighting up to
Russ: the implosion that I didÖ.
Russ: was just too brief.
Russ: Iíve got to work on duration.
Karra: yes, so I hear.
Russ: but been trying the trick that I believe
it was Tia told me about keeping my mouth
open? On the way up to gather up energy, Iím
like a fish out of water. But luckily it's
only on the trip up so you donít have to see
me with my mouth gaping wide open all the way
up to Mars.
Karra: that would be funny.
Russ: itís hilarious. Luckily, Iím the only
one to see it so Iím not going to worry about
Karra: okay, Iím not much of a far sighter
Russ: right. Anyway, youíre right, Iím working
Karra: and how many times must I tell you
Russ: yeah, I know, I know.
Karra: I understand why though.
Russ: yeah, well I'll be taking a break here
coming up in another four weeks.
Russ: and it will be a nice long break, Iím
going to be working on my solidity at that
point full speed ahead.
Karra: goody, goody, goody. Hopefully I wonít
be on the rag at that point.
Russ: hopefully not but thatís when Iím going
to go doubletime on that one, because Iím
going to get lots of restÖ.
Karra: oh, goody.
Russ: lots of sleep, I can practice to my
Karra: okay and Iíll sit down with Tia and
weíll come up with tips of ways to keep you
Karra: she seems to be very good at keeping
peopleís attention focused.
Russ: I donít doubt that.
Russ: anywayÖÖoh, I meant ask, is Luna there
Karra: yes, she's sitting here taking
Russ: good, be sure Mark meets her because I
told him all about her and Mark was curious as
to who was this person in the room at the last
Karra: okay, she says hi again.
Russ: tell her I said hi again and let her
meet Mark so at least he knows who the heck it
was I was talking about.
Karra: okay. Yes, sheís looking forward to
meeting you too, I might have her over.
Russ: oh good. Oh, that's right, we need to
find out if you can access from somebody some
stuff called Morning Thunder Tea from
Russ: see if you can get it reproduced up
Karra: okay, we will have to get somebody that
can access these files here. I have extreme
difficulty doing that, Tia may be able to.
Russ: Tia might be able to.
(Ed. note: files within Mark's mind)
Russ: but itís a tea that I sometimes will
drink, itís got extra high enough caffeine in
Karra: and you want it up here so that when
you arrive here you can drink it to give
yourself more stamina.
Russ: absolutely, right on.
Karra: deductive reasoning, it is lementary my
Russ: well Iím looking for any little tips
that will work so I can do here to get this
Karra: ahhh. Okay, goody, goody, goody.
Russ: we shall see what happens.
Russ: so what else is going on up there, got a
party still planned?
Karra: yes, Kiriís been a little bit closed
mouth about things at the moment. She seems to
be very quiet and very thoughtful and
contemplating. Iím worried about her.
Russ: thatís not like Kiri at all. Now what
are we up to, two weeks, two and a half?
Karra: three weeks I believe.
Russ: three weeks?
Karra: yeah, the 14th.
Russ: oh, okay.
Russ: now do you work with Kornas at all in
the gene room?
Karra: from time to time.
Karra: mainly when Iím expecting.
Russ: ahhh, okay. Well Tia is coming on in a
little while right?
Russ: sheís got more work with Kornas so I'll
save these questions for her.
Karra: okay. Sheís clothed tonight although I
think thatís what you could call them.
Russ: all right, well I should then see you in
a little while.
Karra: uh-huh, okay.
Russ: Karra, thank you.
Karra: youíre welcome.
Russ: talk to you in a few.
(The tape ends just as Karra
was leaving so she stays to answer one last
Karra: ahhh, wriggle, wriggle,
Russ: absolutely. Question I was going to ask on
Karra: okay, better do it before my attention
starts to wander.
Russ: okay. Has Kornas figured out the entire DNA
strain of a person?
Karra: what sort of a question is that?
Russ: well Iím studying gene splicing right nowÖ.
Russ: and Iím reading how to get the entire gene
point figured out, itís like huge amounts of
Russ: and I was wondering if through all his work
and stuff he was finally able to guide it from
point A to point Z.
Karra: what do you think?
Russ: I figured he had to.
Karra: of course.
Russ: and so basically he can go into any part of
Karra: uh-huh, and take whatever he needs for
whatever he needs it for.
Russ: oh, well weíll talk on it.
Karra: okay, Iím going to head out in a few
minutes, Iím........hang on, hold on a
second........you know something?
Karra: Iím out of here.
(At this point the session was halted for a few
days. Now we return to a new taping)
Kiri: greetings Russ, tonight Iím acting as ring
Kiri: so I'm dressed sensibly, Iím in a good,
mellow mood and we will now get down to some
serious work. First of all, I will hand over to
Omal who will brief you before we proceed with
Russ: all right.
(Omal comes on to introduce
the special guest speaker mentioned on side one)
Omal: greetings Russ.
Russ: greeting Omal.
Omal: and down to business as it is a business
Omal: okay, this is what will happen. We shall
have the pilot talk to you, then we shall adjourn
for half an hour. The channeler has been advised
not to do a time translocation.
Omal: and then we shall continue after a 30 minute
break, and I suggest that you set your timer to
activate after........for the 30 minutes, make it
25 to give yourself a five minutes warning.....
Omal: okay? And then we shall continue with the
session after that.
Omal: okay? Got it.
Russ: got it.
Omal: okay, now, this isnít exactly how we planned
it. We have a junior pilot who seems to be a
little bit delayed, he is outside talking with the
channeler about flying techniques. We shall fill
in whilst the secretary goes and fetches him and
then we shall continue with the session when we
get him in here. In the meantime, do you have any
questions non-relating to this flying information?
Russ: yeah, Iím working onÖÖÖlooking at a book I
picked up a long time ago and I kind of picked up
and dropped once in a while called "Operation Show
Russ: and also "Operation Landing Lights", itís
the same book. The main title is "Visitors From
Russ: this book is pretty interesting in that it
works........it talks a lot on Ashtar Command,
Sananda, channelings between early spaceflights
and now concerning work with, it looks like Ashtar
Command on earth.
Omal: it doesnít actually mention us by name.
Russ: just Ashtar.
Russ: but itís pretty much pretty close to what
weíre working on here.......
Russ: only they are using a far more interactive
with you guys as far as getting the message out
Omal: uh-huh, okay?
Russ: I was just wondering if you had heard about
this or not and had any comment on it?
Omal: I cannot confirm or deny that we hadÖÖwell
obviously we did have something behind it but I
cannot confirm or deny if itís an ongoing issue.
As other projects handled by other people and I
myself do handle other projects as well as this
one, so anything that would overlap would be
discussed. Things that arenít overlapping are
Russ: okay, I have an idea this might be
overlapping so Iíll read further and we can talk
on it at a later dateÖÖ
Omal: okay, yes.
Russ: once I have more information.
Omal: okay, now Iím going to hand over to this
Russ: does he have a name?
Omal: he wishes to give you his name himself.
Russ: oh, okay.
Omal: Iím not quite sure how he is going to handle
this as this is the first time that heís ever
channeled so I shall see you in a little while and
I shall be here sitting on the sidelines
monitoring and ready to help with anything.
Russ: all right, weíre all set down here.
(We meet Taal for the first time when was
still an Under Officer)
Russ: greetings and welcome. Would you like a
moment to acclimate yourself first? Takes a while
to get used to.
Russ: ahh, thatís better, greetings.
Taal: maybe too loud.
Russ: thatís all right, itís good for the
recording that we're doing on this.
Taal: name is Under Officer Taal.
Russ: greetings Under Officer Taal, my name is
Russ and you're channeling through someone named
Mark who you've just spoken to I believe.
Taal: yes, friendly.
Russ: he is a nice guy and we're glad to have you
with us this evening.
Taal: honored to be here.
Russ: Iím honored to have you. Can you stay long?
Russ: oh good, I have a number of questions to ask
as we go along but first off, how is everything
doing with the body, are youÖ
Taal: new controls.
Russ: yeah, a little rough at first to get used
Taal: yes. OkayÖÖ..
Taal: necessary release on information.
Russ: okay. My first question I have is on travels
that you do with your ships.....
Russ: I was wondering how you managed to
Taal: that is restricted information.
Russ: ahh, okay. I figured some of this might be
but we have to ask sort of just to kind of get
where weíre at.
Taal: you fly?
Russ: I fly a computer plane, sort of a
Taal: you understand technical data?
Russ: some of it, yes.
Taal: okay, proceed with question.
Russ: okay. Now then, one thing Iíve got to
question is on encounters that we seem to have
down here of UFOs, we either get beings that are
either hostile, curious, or just seem like
tourists. Are these groups that you witness or see
going by when you're traveling?
Taal: yes, more groups, anthropologists,
biologists, archaeologists, paleontologists,
hostile we deal with, curious, thrill seekers.
Taal: To deal
with hostile, we engage in pursuit or combat, not
wishing to harm. I am an Under Officer for a small
group of craft to defend against hostile.
Russ: so would you say you just chase them off?
Taal: combat not preferred, destruction of hostile
only when necessary.
Russ: hmmm. Now, how you tell the difference
between the two, the hostile to just the curious
or scientist and such?
Taal: hostile behave in way with hostile
movements, secretly, trying to avoid detection.
Taal: hostile sometime get through, most time not.
Russ: okay. Now if we were to, in our UFO
sightings see craft, how would we be able to
distinguish between the two?
Taal: hostile, you would not see until too late,
curious and friendly donít care about hiding.
Hiding sign of hostility. However, time some,
necessary for curious and friendly to hide because
of people not understanding.
Russ: hmm, okay. Now one thing Iíve noticed in the
reports is that with flying them, the craft, are
always pretty spectacular. In other words, theyíve
got maneuvers that our planes nowadays canít quite
keep up with.
Taal: yes, we fly curious patterns. From what said
by Mark would describe flashy?
Russ: yeah, flashy would be a word for it. But in
an account I was just reading in fact where some
jets were approaching at near Mach 1, the crafts
merely just zipped in and went right behind the
planes at speeds imaginable.
(from a famous
incident in 1977)
Taal: craft of 1968, your counting?
Taal: was that mentioned?
Russ: yeah, well it was over Spain, the continent
Taal: continent in Europe, Southern countryÖ.
Taal: country next door Portugal, other side
Spain, near mountains, Pyrenees.
Russ: uh-huh. Yeah, there are seen on radar and
the jets went up but they couldnít really keep up
Taal: jet of French aircraft?
Russ: right, a Mirage.
Taal: Mirage three?
Taal: blue color?
Russ: thatís it.
Taal: you understand, know incident well?
Russ: just from the accounts Iíve read, yes.
Taal: I know incident well.
Russ: you were there? That was pretty flashy then.
Taal: thank you, honored you think so.
Russ: the pilots thought so too.
Taal: sometimes you here, I show?
Russ: yes, I look forward to it.
Taal: I not normal speak this way.
Russ: yes, I figured as much but youíre doing well
for how itís going.
Taal: thank you.
Russ: how do you train to do this kind of stuff?
Taal: from young age? I learn from my genetic
Taal: he great navigator but not so great. Mistake
happens, end of story.
Russ: yeah. So do you train though on like
simulators like we do down here?
Taal: yes, plus in sleep mode?
Taal: them no substitute for real time? Fly first
as sub-Under Officer which sits as backup pilot.
Then, Under Officer, finally Officer.
Russ: hmmm. So you do have people under you now
Russ: hmm, so do you do training now also?
Taal: no, I am mainly reconnaissance and combat,
combat not preferred.
Russ: right, I understand that. Mark, when you
talk to him, Iím sure can let you know also he
would not prefer to do combat if he can help it
Taal: why you fire?
Russ: usually out of ignorance, but it wouldn't
have any effect on your ships though would they?
Our defensive weapons or offensive weapons?
Taal: sometimes malfunctions happen, missile fire,
damage to craft, go down, pilot sometimes,
sometimes not rescued. Craft activate
Russ: hmm, so, have you ever had to fire on one of
our aircraft say, in defense?
Taal: we are not allowed to.
Russ: oh. Some kind of shameful you have to get
shot down you canít shoot back.
Taal: fools have accidents, no such thing as bad
pilot. Bad pilot do not last long, end of story.
Russ: thatís for sure. Now, well how fast are your
ships able to travel, is that restricted?
Taal: do not follow question.
Russ: I mean, is there a limit to how fast your
ships can go?
Taal: by laws of physics only factor, unable to
tell you in your speed.
Russ: hmm, okay. Well, you use space folds and
warps to take shortcuts through space?
Taal: not locally, only long trips.
Russ: hmm, okay. How are you able to find them,
like on maps or do you have machines that spot
them for you?
Taal: some occur occasionally, some artificial
Russ: ahhh, thatíd be handy.
Taal: some occur permanently, not in local area.
Russ: hmmm. Well do you have a chance to ever see
black holes or have to travel by them?
Taal: no, I am being stationed here now 70 turns?
Russ: 70 years, yes. Oh, so youíve seen mostly the
stuff around here.
Taal: no, time each place one hundred turns?
Russ: oh, I see.
Taal: four places being me.
Russ: oh, so roughly 400 turnsÖÖlessÖÖ
Taal: less 30.
Russ: right, less 30.
Taal: my time of duty? Is at each station.
Russ: hmm, do you get to usually fly only one type
Taal: no, I fly reconnaissance? Also fly patrol
for hostile? Also rescue.
Russ: so these would be three different kinds of
Taal: rescue, bigger, slower, less weapon, more
Taal: patrol, smaller, oval, armed three pru (?).
Attack, small, very fast, armed, three weapon,
Russ: well do you ever have to do anything like
say dogfights? I donít know if Mark described
those or not.
Taal: what isÖ..?
Russ: a dogfight? It would be where like two craft
are in the air maneuvering to get the better of
the other craft, to get the tactical advantage
over the other craft.
Taal: ahhh, understand,
sometime.........sometimes. Please correct when
Russ: okay. So do you ever come to respect the
flying skills of say somebody that you were trying
Taal: have a friend of sorts,
Taal: met several times, never face-to-face.
Russ: wow, so just you know him from his moves?
Taal: and his vehicle.
Russ: do you guys ever have to shoot each other or
is it just a flying show sort of?
Taal: no, never firedÖ..
Russ: oh good.
Russ: who usually comes out the better of these?
Taal: sometimes friend, sometimes myself.
Russ: ahhh, thatís interesting.
Russ: so do you ever get off to the parties that
are happening up there on the base?
Taal: young lady, gatecrash.
Russ: ahhh, yes.
Taal: maybe talk?
Taal: is she here?
Russ: no, thatíd be Bethany.
(Ed. note: a guest of ours able to astral travel
to the base)
Russ: yeah, she is pretty neat. Iíll try to come
up there myself and say hi sometime.
Taal: we talk fly?
Russ: uh-huh, absolutely.
Taal: I show you training.
Russ: ohhh, good.
Taal: maybe hot pilot?
Taal: maybe not.
Russ: maybe not, we'll find out. Okay, I just have
a couple more questions to askÖ..
Russ: before I let you get going. When I used to
live in Arizona, place called SedonaÖ..
Russ: itís up in the northern part.
Taal: know well.
Russ: ahh good. I was walking through town one
time and off about a quarter mile away at
approximately a hundred feet in the air, I saw
three what looked like regular jet planes but they
were traveling very slowly and making no noise
Taal: by pointed tower? Reference point?
Russ: yeah, a rock that looks like a pointed
tower. A rock-shaped-like tower.
Russ: it looked just like regular military
aircraft, but there was no way that military
aircraft would fly that low with no noise
Russ: can your ships change shape like that?
Taal: no. Your military craft, some experimental?
Very quiet. Also depend on air density, density of
engine noise, coming or going towards you, wind,
many factors. Some, your craft quite quiet. Depend
on sound shielding from rock strata.
Russ: oh, I see. So it would be a natural source
from our earth?
Taal: but not discount other people vessel.
Taal: sorry, other vessels.....try again, other
visitors, their vessels possibly.
Russ: okay. Now Sedona seemed to be quite the
place for UFOs. I know thereís a lot of energy in
the area made up from the vortexes.
Russ: does that help the ships at all?
Russ: navigation say?
Taal: yes, navigational reference, yes. Other
factors more aerobatic.........
Taal: more amusement. Sometimes like people to
Russ: ohhh. Yeah well you impressed quite a few
people out there because I have a lot of folks who
did see them, noticing them flashy moves you would
Taal: five turns past?
Russ: fourÖÖ..yeah, five turns.
Taal: I fly many times in area.
day, sometimes dark.
Russ: yeah, itís a beautiful area.
Taal: yes, next question.
Russ: okay, how about clothing, do you have to
have that with you too?
Taal: sometimes, depending on mission.
Taal: when combat mission and low chase frequently
happen? We carry clothing like you?
Russ: oh, I see.
Taal: patrol also, rescue no, why? In rescue
vehicle have equipment for survival on planet when
we rescue? Why? Wasteful weight and space.
Russ: ahh, okay. Now then, is there any way where
we can assist you guys?
Russ: oh good.
Taal: when visit Sedona next......
Taal: when youÖÖ.
THE TAPE ENDS