(Tia comes on to get the
Tia: first of all, stock market update.
Up 2% for a grand total of up on the day 257 points
blah, blah, blah and this is quite expected but it
is the biggest jump ever..........but it still
hasn’t recovered the 3% that it dropped. So, the
stock market’s doing its thing and I’m getting tired
of going over stock market things over and over
again because every time I say something it happens
and I’m sick and tired of it. Can you blame me?
What’s that snicker for?
Russ: well it’s a dissertation, that’s
a rhetorical question right?
Tia: no, it’s not a rhetorical question
Russ: oh, okay.
Tia: are we sick and tired of me
repeating basically the same predictions over and
Russ: I don't know, we've only put it
in once in the webpage.
Tia: well once is enough. Okay, now,
dissertation let me see. Well, growth I think is a
good topic to start on, growth and understanding in
development and consciousness and from my standpoint
of the house cats can be heard outside the slider)
Russ: no, I won’t let a cat in that’s making those
words. So where was I, oh yes……hmmm…
Tia: growth and development and being.
Constantly learning is something that is very
important, if you stop learning then you stop
progressing and advancing. The necessary struggle
involved in the growth is the important thing that
by struggling you grow and in growing you want to
grow more so it is necessary to have the correct
kind of watering to……..and we’re getting sworn
at.........the correct kind of stimuli is important
to continue the growth in whatever avenue is
necessary for the individual to choose. In doing so,
they have to set themselves goals and objectives
that they are consciously aware of and by being
consciously aware of these goals, you can head to
the objectives which in turn are nearer to the
subconscious goals on where you want to go and what
lessons you feel necessary to learn. For example,
let’s see……working with computers as that seems to
be the topic and flavor of the week. By learning new
computer systems and trying to figure out problems,
stimulates the mind in such a way that it becomes
active and craves the necessary desire for the work
to be done. As you well know Russ, constantly
learning new things is very important and by doing
so, you achieve a state of constant growth which is
what you want. Unlike a stock market which goes
through cycles of growth and retraction, growth and
retraction and I deliberately repeat that as an
example that it goes through a cyclical motion
whereas by growing and learning, you do not go
through the cyclical motion because learning one
thing leads to questing and knowledge of the next
thing which in turn makes you want to go to the next
thing and the next thing and it constantly keeps
your mind active and being regenerated in a sort of
way that gives it the necessary impetus and ommph to
continue on your learning quest and you do not need
to go over the same lessons over and over and over
again. Certainly there are some lessons that need to
be repeated and hammered home, but once they have
been learned, you progress on and by progressing on
you move to the next objective that you set
yourself. Any questions?
Russ: yeah just being born is basically
starting off a cycle of growth correct?
Tia: correct but some people, they get
to a point in their lives where they no longer are
interested in growth, they’re interested in only
doing the same thing over and over again.
Russ: well for example, as with the
stock market, doesn’t that represent some people?
Tia: yes, it is a cyclical thing that
they don’t learn from.
Russ: well let’s say they grow and then
they fall back and then grow and fall back and grow
and fall back.
Tia: that’s not growing. If you listen
to what you said, it is not growing. They grow and
fall back and then they grow again. How can you grow
again if you haven’t learned the lessons?
Russ: well because you learn the
lessons you go to a higher level.
Tia: no, no, no, no, it doesn’t……..
Russ: and then fall back again.
Tia: the stock market does not work
that way, the stock market is a circular system. You
cannot compare it to people because it is not a
person thing, it is driven by numbers and desires
and bad planning, it is not something that you can
compare to people.
Tia: next question.
Russ: now with each life that you go on
Russ: you start your next cycle of
Russ: now is there a point where you
come full circle?
Tia: not that I’m aware of. Because if
you go full cycle, you’re back to the point where
you have learned nothing and you need to relearn
those lessons. So therefore it is not growth, it
becomes circular at that point.
Russ: okay well…..
Tia: I know where you’re trying to
Russ: from Atlantis?
Tia: so it’s different. You see what
happened right? Is that you learned all the lessons
that were necessary to learn at that point.
Tia: you set into motion karmic debts
that needed to be sorted out and deeds that were
done were driven by the necessary lessons that had
been learned in saying the waiting period, this is
what I’m trying to understand myself. In the waiting
period you decide what you need to learn best from
all those possibilities that you have created and to
deal and address each one at a time so that you can
advance to the next level having learned those
lessons and if you don’t learn them, you have to
repeat them so therefore the stimuli is not there to
advance you see. Having learned the lessons and
getting it right, you go on to the next set of
lessons. So it’s not constantly falling back, you’ve
learned your lessons from that class so you move on
to the next logical level.
Russ: the question I have though is,
why is it in those lessons that we had to learn that
Russ: we’re trying to relearn them now?
I.e., say with psychic skills that we had and knew
of quite well in Atlantis but now we’re
trying to relearn those same skills again and bring
them back up to that point we were where we lost
Tia: no, I don’t see it that way at
Russ: okay my healing skills were much
greater at that point then they are now.
Tia: yes but they were also very
corrupted so they needed to be pruned so that you
could not go charging off and become a great
geneticist in this life and create a race of
mutants. You see you’re not learning how to heal,
you're learning how to deal with those moral issues.
Tia: is it right to tamper with genes
to create a race of for want of a better word
slaves, which is what you did last time?
Tia: so are you learning new lessons or
are you learning how to be like you once were?
Russ: I’m trying to learn from that
Tia: that’s right.
Russ: but what about telepathy?
Tia: telepathy? You have telepathy.
Russ: not to the level I had it then.
Tia: but you do not need it.
Russ: well, sometimes you think you do.
Tia: you don’t really because you don’t
need those lessons and the next time I get called a
nasty name like that I am going to go screaming
after that cat.
Russ: okay, I see what your point is.
Russ: so we’re going on to……..because
it's just for some reason it’s tough to picture
those lessons we learned in Atlantis as lesser
lessons than what we’re learning now.
Tia: no, no, no not lesser, different.
Russ: different, okay.
Russ: so in another words, as okay Omal
said, those were parts of the keys to the doors to
the next evolutionary step.
Russ: and those keys opened up some
Russ: that we are now attempting to get
the keys to unlock the rest of the locks.
Tia: correct. Let’s look at it a
Tia: okay, you have these great skills
Tia: you’re very adept at using them….
Tia: but wouldn’t it be better to learn
how to handle being without them?
Tia: you have them, you've had them for
a long time, but what about learning to survive
Russ: hmmm, okay.
Tia: you see?
Tia: now you have a whole load of new
and different lessons that you need to learn. You
get to a point where that you have learned to live
without them and you can remember at times what it
was like to live with them so when it comes time for
that next logical, evolutionary step as Omal calls
it you know both, you know how to live with and
Russ: I see.
Tia: I use my astral travel as part of
my work. Kiri’s telling me that she very seldom uses
Russ: as part of her work?
Tia: as part of anything.
Tia: the only time that she uses her
coercion is when somebody is not behaving as they
should and she’s limited on time to deal with the
problem in a different way.
Russ: so in essence she learned one
thing on how to use without it.....
Russ: now she has learned how to use
with it and she’s balancing the two together.
(Tia starts clapping)
Russ: but now what about you? You never
started off on sixth dimension, you started off on
Tia: that is why I prefaced it by
saying I’m trying to understand it as well.
Tia: you see?
Russ: right because you being here, I
can’t call it an accident because it’s not, you’re
Tia: I was probably ready but not
ready. It was one of those things, heads or tails,
am I ready or am I not ready? And I call heads and
it landed on its tail.
Russ: okay. So…..
Tia: but you see what I’m saying?
Tia: I should imagine I could have gone
Russ: okay, understandable. So you’re
getting your lessons from a different source than
you would of on Durondedunn?
Russ: hmm okay. And I’m getting my
sources from a different place than Sirius.
Tia: correct. So we all have our paths
and lessons to walk.
Tia: okay anymore questions?
Russ: yeah are we going to do the news
tonight, because I’ll need to write it down actually
and transcribe it….
Tia: I’ve been way too busy to do any
Tia: just put down I’ve been too busy
with what’s going on in the market, political
situations, I could go on for hours about that and I
don’t want to tonight.
Tia: I could go on about economic
setups, exchange rates….
Russ: don’t worry about it.
Russ: it's not exciting.
Tia: yeah. Terribly, terribly dry and
boring unless you happen to be into that sort of
thing which I really am not, well not tonight
for Omal tonight)
Korton: greetings and felicitations
Russ: greetings Omal.
Korton: I hardly think so.
Korton: due to the fact that my
esteemed colleague is not going to be present
tonight due to the fact of meetings, I will
be acting in the capacity as the censor.
Russ: well thank you Korton, this is
quite an honor.
Korton: you are welcome. First of all,
let us address last week (Atlantis,
After the Fall). The person acting in Omal’s
stead at the time did a okay job. (Tia)
Lacking the judgment of higher consciousness, the
individual did as best as she could. Miss Tenuvial
(Bunny) and her boisterousness, that is acceptable
as she is a guest. Okay, let me give a dissertation
on the evolution of communication from simple grunts
and groans to the eloquence that we have achieved
and you have achieved at this point with precise
underlines on certain areas. Now, primitive
communication serves the same function as does
verbal and mental communication, it is just done in
different ways. When you look at communications that
were scraped and painted on walls in the past, they
are the same as words crammed into a much more
different form. To understand the consciousness in
the development from paintings on walls done by spraying
from the mouth and from hands to
communication in pictures with vocal words spoken,
the development of language is not only vocally, it
involves more possible stimuli then you could
conceive. For example, hands, facial, eyes, body,
looks, when I say looks I’m not meaning looking in a
particular way with facial features in the way that
an individual looks at something is what I am
referring to. The necessary eloquence that is
developed now also developed in the most primitive
forms of communication. The consciousness in the
mind and the growth and the ability to communicate
has not changed that much in many thousands of
years. To understand the importance of communication
is the objective of communicating itself. If you do
not communicate well or use words and meanings that
are generally not understood and not
understandable or mispronounced, then the
point of communication becomes irrelevant because
misunderstanding and all the problems that creates
will occur so communication breaks down. But, if you
cannot be understood due to different linguistic
abilities or pronunciations or languages, you can
still be understood by the most simple and basic
method of communication for somebody that is unable
to communicate on a vocal level. That
would be pictures, any questions?
Russ: yes, two questions to start with
here. Painting as you mentioned on walls in a
primitive form has kind of also gotten to a point
now where as we see as in graffiti.
Russ: expressions as far as pictures
being the simplest way of communicating.
Russ: which brings me to my next
question which is last week Kiri discussed the split
up of Atlantis from the four points to the different
parts of the world they went to.
Russ: I’d like to work a little bit on
the evolution of the speech patterns that came along
from that split.
Korton: okay, let us address first of
all the people from what you would call the
Southwest area. Atlantis was broken not only up into
races but up into linguistic areas. They spoke a
common language but each race had its own language.
A good example is Sirius. Miss Tenuvial, when she
speaks has a different accent than the Tanaka girls.
(Karra and Kiri.) When they talk amongst
themselves they will speak in their particular
dialect and area that they’re from. For all intents
purposes they speak a different language. Miss
Tenuvial and her sister speak in a lowland dialect
and in a lowland language. The Tanaka ladies speak
in a highland dialect and language when they are
private but, when they are communicating with the
Tenuvials, (Leah and Bunny) they
speak in the common Sirian language. So that there
is an ethnic pride that is maintained. The ethnic
pride is there for a reason as it was
on Atlantis. If you take the individuals in the
low-lying Southwestern areas, they were
into fishing and farming so they had naturally a
different language because the sea and the land was
important. For the people in the Northeastern
part of Atlantis living in the highlands in the
rugged area, the language of the animals and under
the ground was important. So they had more of an
interest in the animals and internally within the
mountains and hills. The people in the central area
where the capital was located had their own legal
language which even today continues. If you have a
group of lawyers and barristers and judges and
lawmakers together, for all intents
purposes they do speak a different language. Do you
understand what a Baylor is?
Russ: a bailer?
Russ: a Baylor, no.
Korton: it is somebody that acts in a
capacity for example to evict somebody.
Korton: let us take a simple phrasing.
If a Baylor due to his action lets a individual
lapse into detinue but this occurs before detinue
was detinue, then the Baylor is negligent in his
Korton: but, that means nothing if you
do not know what a Baylor is or what detinue is.
Russ: I see.
Korton: so, the different languages on
the continent or the island of Atlantis were there
for a particular function, it is easier for
those individuals to communicate quicker and faster
vocally in their native language or their native
dialect between themselves but they have a common
language which they would all speak on the island as
they do on Sirius. It creates racial pride in their
language which strengthens the race and therefore
drives the individuals harder to do better than the
other races and individuals because their language
is better than the other languages which
it is not but it is still pride to believe that your
languages are better than somebody else’s. For
example, on your planet, people that speak a
language well and precisely and are understood by a
majority are thought of more highly than an
individual that uses slang and jargon that is
understood by a few.
Russ: understandable. What about the
hieroglyphics then that you see from Egypt?
Korton: they are pictures.
Russ: uh-huh, we’re going
Korton: they tell a story, they
Russ: I see. So is this a preservation
for the future of a history without actually having
to go to the Sirian language or something
similar to that……
Russ: that would get passed on?
Korton: no. The only reason that the
Egyptian language was broken and being able to
understand was because of one stone.
Russ: the Rosetta Stone.
Korton: correct, it had all three
languages on there. If it did not have a language
that was still read and understood, then the other
two languages would have meant nothing. They
would still be pretty pictures, people assuming that
certain images represented certain things. It gives
a basic understanding on what goes on.
Russ: I see, similar then to the Mayan
Korton: correct. Let us go back to the
most simple form of communication, the drawings on a
Korton: you have a scene,
you have stick figures chasing an animal throwing
what appears to be spears. But what if that’s not
actually the case? What if the people are throwing
offerings at the creature or the objects are coming
from the creature?
Korton: you see you
have to think of the possible
Russ: well for example from the
Northeastern quarter of Atlantis….
Russ: we see instead of the hieroglyphs
of Egypt, we’re seeing actual stone constructions
that actually tell more in their way they were built
could huge encyclopedias.
Korton: again it is a matter of
culture. A culture that lives from the land and
under the land does not have much time to be able to
have a well-written writing system, a
well-thought-out system so they have to do their
writing in large stones.
Russ: oh yeah, I see. Hmm, then the
last one that we have left then is in the
Russ: which leaves I believe that would
be the Americas.
Russ: and we don’t find much in the way
of things left over except possibly mounds….
Russ: and different things throughout
Korton: again it is a matter of
environment, understanding……it is all
(a cat had climbed onto
Korton: don’t forget, I do have a
Russ: oh that’s right.
Korton: it is a matter of what is up
environmentally……my feline does not sleep on my
chest though.........it is a matter of what is
Korton: for example, buildings with
high roofs would culturally be unsuitable in that
kind of environment.
Russ: uh-huh, okay. So we almost see
the Mayans and the, if you look farther south, the
Incas with a higher level of education let’s say.
Knowledge of calendars, knowledge of
Russ: knowledge of hieroglyphics,
knowledge of pyramids as you do in Egypt….
Russ: where the same latitude you see
the same similar constructions.
Russ: then in the northern part of
England, Scandinavia, Germany, Scotland you see the
same kind of constructions as
you see in North America.
Russ: why would that be?
Korton: obvious, as they flee you have
groups from the highlands or the North part of the
island getting pushed to Europe and the continent of
Russ: ohhhh, of course.
Korton: and in the southern
part you would have the people that are from the
lowlands and the judicial systems and government
systems being pushed to the Southeast
Russ: hmmm and because the Southwest
was more farming, you wouldn’t see the
sophistication you saw in Egypt and Greece.
Korton: in a way yes, it is a little
bit more complicated and we do not have the time
really to go into detail on these matters. You must
remember, I am a communicator.
Russ: correct and you have helped me a
lot in the communication aspects of the split up.
Korton: thank you.
Russ: thank you Korton.
Korton: now let us address the ring
mistress’s brief dissertation.
Korton: there is nothing that I can see
that would cause harm at this time. She words herself
very carefully. You may wish to edit her comments
about the feline’s foul language.
Russ: all right.
Korton: no keep that in and put that as
in footnotes with my section.
Russ: all right, communication.
Russ: and then in your section should I
edit the part about the Tenuvial and Tanaka clans?
Korton: if you wish, that is your
Russ: I’ll talk to Karra about it.
Russ: thank you.
Korton: I will be back. I have to do
what Omal does, censoring.
(Tia makes the first transition between
Russ: hi Tia.
(Tia says hi in Durondedunn)
Tia: I just like how he fades out, as
he fades out he points to the chair, it means he's
still around. Okay, the Tenuvial family.
Tia: clan. Okay, I suppose I better put
somebody from the Tanaka clan, nnnghh.
What about the Taal clan? Well there’s only one
person from that clan anyway.
Tia: I'm a clan all on
(Tia has a bit to say in Durondedunn)
Tia: you got a little worried there
when he was concerned about the feline weren’t you?
Russ: well I know how it disrupts the
Tia: you’re talking to a eighth
dimensional being and you’re worried about energy
Russ: well, I know it bothers some
Tia: uh-huh, okay.
Russ: all right.
Tia: (Speaking to Karra) Tanaka, you’re
Karra Tanaka joins as the next
Russ: hello my love.
Karra: hmm, we do have our positioning
on how we come on. It is as a rule Tia first, then
our censor and then always myself and then it will
be the guest speaker and if we have another guest
speaker it will be that speaker and
then last of all my sister.
Russ: that’s true.
Karra: uh-huh, it’s always the same
Russ: well it’s a nice way to do it,
kind of a like……
Russ: a five course meal.
Karra: uh-huh, with the light, sugary
individual last. Light, sugary and syrupy.
(Russ chuckles over
the humorous description)
Karra: okay, now
where have we got to?
Russ: well we got quite a bit to work
Karra: okay let’s answer your questions
Russ: okay, let’s see first off with
the speech patterns of as we’re talking about with
Korton between the two different sectors. Does that
mean that when Huna is speaking in their private
language you can’t understand what they’re saying?
Karra: there are some words that I can
catch and other words that I can’t.
When they talk fast, it is hard for me to understand
them and Kiri also nods.
Russ: hmm, okay.
Karra: but also there is a courtesy
thing that if there is a person that speaks another
language, let us say I am president
and Huna and Leah are talking, they will speak in
the common language of Sirius even if it is private,
intimate conversation because that is rude not to.
Karra: I do not know if they are saying
something derogatory about me or cracking some joke
that I should be aware of and find amusing. So
it is something that is considered very rude to
speak in your own language if there is a person
around that does not speak your language.
Russ: I see, okay. All right,
now what is your opinion on setting this up in the
webpage as the Tenuvial and Tanaka clans?
Karra: I know your thoughts and we will
think about it.
Karra: but we’re not opposing clans,
Russ: understandable, it’s an
interesting way of describing the heritage of Sirius
where we see earth history in many different forms
but until you get down right to the family roots of
it you don’t really see the history.
Russ: just like the Hatfield's and
McCoy’s. All right we’ve got work done on
the…..we’ll get the work done on the page......
Russ: as far as figuring out the
graphics to the tape and we'll add this
Russ: so with that of course we’re
going to add in the part, the memorial I guess to
Russ: okay do you want to run that now?
Karra: we will do that
between the two of us.
Russ: oh you and Kiri?
Russ: oh me and you?
Karra: and Kiri.
Karra: Kiri will also put
in her two cents worth, I will be in contact with
Karra: when we do it.
Russ: all right fair enough. Now then,
as far as the healing aspects go…..
Russ: could you describe a little bit
about that in relationship to how in general
something going on with Atlantis, how
it split up? The Egyptians obviously had the major
parts of it.
Karra: no they didn’t actually.
Karra: it was spread equally. Again it
was an environmental thing. Korton is quite correct
in discussing the environment, it does play a big
role in the medicine. For example, certain healing
herbs for mining injuries would be
culturally unsuitable in a farming community or a
seafaring community as would the seafaring
community using or having their medicine used in a
mining community. Look at it this way, what is the
point in having……hmm, that’s not a good example
actually, I was going to talk about broken
bones. Okay let us talk about
poultices, now in a farming community it is not very
often to get crushed bones so you would not use hard
splints. You get cuts and gashes
and clean breaks as opposed to crushes that would
need putting back together in a plain splints. In a
farming community you would use the various herbs
that are best for making poultices to deal with cuts
and gashes and clean breaks and all that entails
whereas in a mining community where a crushed hand
or finger or foot or leg is more common and with
crushing, there isn’t so many cuts and breaks of the
skin and the muscle tissue. That all happens
internally so you would use a different kind of
Karra: you see?
Russ: uh-huh. Now after the breakup of
Atlantis you'd be dealing with a lot of trauma.
Karra: of course.
Russ: not only in injuries but just
mental and emotional trauma.
Russ: but these aren’t things you can
use a poultice or a splint or
Karra: uh-huh, well it goes back to
what we discussed a few weeks ago about dealing with
problems. You see when you sit down and communicate,
you address the problem. By talking, and talking
about how somebody feels about their problems and
why they feel in a particular way will actually do
more good than sitting down and prescribing
pharmaceuticals for their moods. Certainly there are
times where pharmaceuticals are very necessary when
an individual has a chemical imbalance but where it
is psychological, all the medication in the world
just masks the real problem.
Karra: so by sitting down and talking
and doing it in such a way that is cleverly worded
so that the individual’s mental harm is repaired is
the important thing.
Russ: interesting, this almost takes us
back to the shamans of all four parts of the globe
at that point.
Karra: well it does dovetail with what
we were discussing last week about changing the
frequencies and bringing the frequencies up.
Russ: right because basically yeah
whoever is doing the work, be it a shaman or healer
or whatever, they're is going to be a lot of words
spoken, a lot of ceremony….
Russ: you’re going to see a lot of
incense or smells.
Russ: changing the person’s
environment mentally and physically.
Karra: and their conscious
Russ: and their conscious state
correct, would do a lot in the way of trauma and
things like that.
Karra: correct, you see rituals serve a
very useful purpose. You remember how
much of a ritual we used to make out of Carrie’s
Karra: it was unbelievably ritualized.
Bowl of water, clean cloth, putting Carrie through
an experience. Making her laugh,
making her cry, making her serious. It was changing
her conscious level, bringing it up to a level where
it was easy for me to come down to her level.
Karra: so by increasing her conscious
level and me adjusting my level to her level, the
healing could take place. It is important as a
healer to be able to change and fluctuate one’s
healing levels so that communication and the healing
Russ: doesn’t this also then go along
Karra: empathy is very important.
Russ: as you come to each other’s
level, the level of empathy then is able to match
more closely to that person whether their vibrations
are different from yours.
Karra: that goes without saying.
Russ: yes but we need to say that.
Karra: yes but it is something that is
Karra: if you are aware of what is
necessary. But the rituals are very
important, they do much more than bringing an
individual up to or down to a particular level.
put you through an experience, a common experience
that is shared by all the people participating. If
you take for example the healing of Carrie again,
she’s going to love being on the Internet, the
experiences that we put her through
and I went through and you went through made it a
shared thing. Even at the end when she was getting
ready to leave, the jokes, the humor, the mask, the
rubber gloves, they were reminding her of a shared
Karra: you see in a cold, sterile
environment it is intimidating for an individual to
go through a healing. For a while on your planet
I’ve noticed that a clean, sterile and I don’t mean
clean, sterile, I mean sterile as….
Russ: antiseptic almost.
Karra: correct yes, I was saying
could you help me here with the word, what I mean is
somewhere that is cold?
Russ: yeah, very professional as far as
Karra: well the environment.
Russ: yeah, very antiseptic.
Karra: yes, that will work. That has an
effect of intimidating. If you go to hospitals that
are built more recently, you will find that they are
still a little cold, no carpeting on the floor which
is wise if you have a lot of bloodstains but you go
in to the doctor’s offices where they had
discussions with the patients you'll
find pictures and all the necessary, cheerful…….
SIDE ONE ENDS
(Karra gets the
2nd half started.)
Karra: ..........which is necessary to
lull a patient into a sense of security which in
turn aids the healing process to create a relaxed
environment as opposed to an intimidating and scary
environment. Having watched some of your earth
patients go into a very clinical, antiseptic,
sterile office, they tend to clam up and the doctor
has to work harder and pull out the information
little by little. It is almost like pulling teeth
getting that information but yet an office where the
doctor is sitting down with his feet on the desk
talking in a nice, relaxed way will get more out of
the patient than the patient would give otherwise.
Russ: now this goes back to a
combination of the two techniques that we saw from
Atlantis to after Atlantis.
Russ: during Atlantis we’re seeing a
very not so ritual as much as technical….
Russ: environment for healing using
crystals and sound and light……
Russ: and color to where afterwards
you had none of those things anymore but you still
had the ritual….
Russ: which is all that was really
left. So they were working from what they knew best
without the tools that they had from before.
Russ: except for the herbs of
Karra: of course.
Russ: which were always there.
Russ: and nowadays you see it where
it’s a little bit of both. You have the tools, you
don’t have the ritual anymore….
Russ: but you do have the tools and
the more professionalism.
Karra: it is starting to lean that
way. Let us go back to the healings of Carrie.
Karra: okay, we’re in a nice warm
Karra: we’re laughing and joking, we
start the rituals, what did I always suggest that
Russ: balls of light?
Karra: well besides that, something
that was even when we were just discussing?
Russ: oh, a positive attitude.
Karra: actually a cup of tea.
Karra: to relax.
Russ: oh yeah.
Karra: of course it works. Why do
something if it doesn’t work? Giving her a cup of
tea to relax works, the balls of light work. The
whole entire rituals are designed for a specific
purpose and this purpose is to heal. Why do we do
them? Because they work, that’s the most important
thing. It doesn’t matter how strange and bizarre it
looks as long as one thing happens and that one
Russ: the healing.
Karra: well it works. Anyway…….
Russ: well thank you my love.
Karra: you’re welcome, see you later
Russ: bye sweetheart.
(Korton gives us his input)
Korton: okay Russ, let us look at
Karra’s brief dissertation and comments. She is
quite correct in her discussion on things that are
culturally suitable and environmentally suitable.
Yes there is a link between the two, between my
dissertation and her dissertation. It is important
that environmental factors are taken into
consideration. Okay, the healing sessions with
Carrie, yes I believe with consent from Carrie it
can go on the Internet. You have to remember this is
an external person that went through a healing
session or numerous healing sessions so therefore it
is important to have her consent.
has been given)
discussion on healing techniques and the clinical
nature of your third dimensional medical system and
in comparison to a more relaxed environment, yes
that can go on. Any questions?
Korton: okay. Russ relax,
I am censoring, I am not probing. Do
not be intimidated unless you do really wish to be
Russ: oh no, oh no.
(Tia gets us on to our first guest speaker)
(Tia says hi in Durondedunn)
Tia: you asked for that didn’t you?
Russ: well that was pretty funny
though, I have to admit I found it tough to not
laugh at that one.
Tia: uh-huh, he tells you to relax and
then he goes, "I am not here to probe, I am here to
censor unless you wish to be probed."
Russ: I'm quite happy with my brains
Tia: put you in a corner didn’t he?
Tia: any questions for me?
Russ: yeah, what is that little sucker
up there trying to yell this time?
Tia: let me in.
Russ: oh, well that figures.
Tia: I don’t know where he learned
language like that.
Russ: well it wasn’t from me.
Tia: well the little one there
Russ: no she’s well behaved.
Tia: uh-huh. Why is it that the bigger
ones are so rude?
Russ: because they’re bigger
Russ: they haven’t learned humility
Tia: and funny thing is that they stay
out there until they learn humility. Now he’s saying
that he’s hungry.
Tia: but he can learn patience.
(Tia gives a talking to the
cats in Durondudunn)
Tia: he’s always got to get the last
words in. I told him to wait and learn patience.
Russ: oh, good girl.
Tia: okay. He’s going, “I’m not
patient, I want in, I want in, I want in.” Wait
until he does that long......
a long meow)
Russ: then he’ll figure it out. All
Tia: it’s coming, you wait. You heard
the tone in his voice change?
Russ: uh-huh, that one changed.
Tia: I won’t say exactly what he said,
it began with a B. Okay…….
(Leah talks about
Russ: hello Leah?
Russ: hi Leah, how you doing dear?
Leah: not too bad.
Russ: the Tenuvi clan?
Russ: Tenuvial clan, that’s right.
Russ: family. Hmm....
Leah: clan is something I do not
Russ: it is the same thing only more
Celtic.......which you don’t
understand either…..it’s a……..nevermind. Anyway, how
are you doing my dear?
Leah: okay, what is Celtic?
Russ: Celtic is a group of peoples of
many different families and cultures that inhabited
the northern part of the continent we now call
Europe. Mostly in the British Isles where Mark is
Leah: but you call them a can?
Russ: yes, because that’s what they
Leah: so as a group they’re called a
Russ: no, multiple, different clans.
For example you had the McCloud clan and you had
Leah: why is Tia going there can only
be one? When you said McCloud she started leaping
around saying there can only be one.
Russ: that would be from a popular
media, movie series down here called “Highlander”
which is a movie about……..it’s a fictional movie
concerning clans that….
Leah: holo, okay.
Russ: okay, you got it all figured
Leah: I didn’t get that last part, I
was wondering what a movie is?
Russ: cinema, like a holo (Hologram).
Leah: that’s with Tia said…..
Leah: you were saying it is a
fictional holo of…...
Russ: of a story about immortal kind
of beings who fight among themselves so that there
is only one left who then receives the great prize.
Leah: so they fight to kill each
Russ: right, they have to behead each
Leah: then they are not immortal,
there is a problem there.
Russ: right, they call themselves
immortals because if they aren’t beheaded they live
Leah: they assume they live forever.
Leah: but it is a recreational
Leah: oh okay. So it’s a recreational,
fictional entertainment. Hmm, interesting concept.
Russ: well sort of like what your
sister does but with more of a storyline to it.
Leah: hers do not have a storyline?
Leah: have you seen one?
Leah: have you watched it all the way
Leah: well, you can’t say can you?
Russ: well I can’t stay up there long
enough to watch a whole thing all the way through.
Russ: but there is a storyline in
Russ: oh okay.
Leah: you would have to ask her.
Russ: I’ll ask her when I see her
next. Anyway darling, how are you this evening?
Leah: I’m doing well.
Russ: good to hear it, good to hear
Leah: do I have to give a talk?
Russ: no actually, I’m just going to
ask you a few questions about your family.
Russ: all right, we know quite a bit
about the Tanaka family from their history and where
they came from and the various myths and legends
that led up to where they’re at now but we know
absolutely nothing about the Tenuvial clan or
Russ: and I was wondering if you might
fill in a few of the blanks?
Leah: what would you like to know?
Russ: well for example with the Tanaka
family we have various legends or a legend in
particular that describes their origins, is there
any such thing in the Tenuvial family?
Leah: there is a story, rather long
story of us coming out of the sea to a land that was
empty but full of life.
Russ: oh, is there a short version of
Leah: no not really.
Leah: it’s more of…..I don’t know what
the word would be…..it’s….
Russ: an epic?
Leah: what’s an epic?
Russ: epic is a very long story that
has many twists and turns, a start, beginning,
Russ: a dramatic.....
Leah: yes, kind of like that, I think
I know what you mean. An epic would be a long drawn
out story involving many gyrations of families or
Russ: right yeah, that’s it.
Leah: yes and no. Kiri says saga.
Russ: saga, another good one, yes.
Leah: uh-huh, I know what a saga is.
Leah: yes almost a saga but it is you
would call ballad saga?
Russ: of yes, almost a singing kind of
Russ: longer than a 90 minute tape
Leah: it normally takes…when we tell
it we tell it at special times, the harvest of the
springing fish. We will sit around......the whole
entire family would get together, all 3,000 of us at
the last count and we each tell a part.......
Leah: and it will go for a few days.
Russ: well can you tell me your part?
Leah: my part would definitely take
more than one of your recording times.
Russ: oh well, it’s a thought. Okay
what is a springing fish?
Leah: it is a fish that is a big fish
that climbs rocks with water.
Russ: oh like a leaping fish.
Leah: uh-huh and it goes……..
Russ: like our salmon.
Leah: it’s not salmon.
Russ: oh but we have salmon that do
the same thing.
Leah: they’re about this big.
Russ: that’s not a big fish.
Russ: that’s not a big fish.
Leah: did I say big fish?
Leah: oh well.
Russ: no that’s a tiny, little thing.
Leah: well this is…….
Russ: I thought you meant these big,
giant tarpon-like things.
Leah: oh there are those but they’re
not springing fish, those are the climbing fish.
Leah: and it used to be in our history
that to prove that you were a person of reckoning
you would catch one.
Russ: oh, very difficult I take it?
Leah: well I’ve never succeeded and
I’ve tried a few times, for fun.
Leah: the only thing that you have is
Russ: hmm, I’ll bet Huna could catch
Russ: she strikes me as one of those
springing fish kind of people.
Leah: well you stand on the rocks and
you try to catch them as they come.
Russ: yeah she’d love that.
Leah: she says she’s tried.
Russ: hasn’t caught one?
Russ: I am shocked.
Leah: well I actually had a hold of
one on one occasion…..
Russ: did you?
Russ: ahhh good job.
Leah: had my fingers in its gills, I
was about 14 and I wrestled it and wrassled and
wrassled and it broke my fingers.
Russ: for a little fish that’s a
strong little fish.
Leah: no, this is the……not the
Russ: oh the climbing fish.
Leah: the climbing fish.
Russ: oh they’re bigger then.
Leah: uh-huh, they’re about……average
one is about I should say seven feet long?
Leah: no, the length of the futon.
Russ: okay that’s six feet plus a
little bit. Yeah that’s a big fish.
Russ: yeah I could see where that
would be definitely someone to reckon with.
Russ: wow, that’s amazing you even
tried at 14. Man that sucker would be quite a bit
bigger than you are at 14.
Leah: the one I caught was about my
Leah: weighed a lot more than I did.
Russ: okay well hey, that’s a good
little idea of the Tenuvial family there and some of
Leah: we are a waterborne race.
Russ: right, I can relate to that
being my sign as we call it down here is a water
Russ: I think Karra has explained it
to me as you have a similar kind of astrological
signs on Sirius.
Russ: but mine is the fish.
Leah: the fish, what fish?
Russ: Pisces, just fish in particular,
Russ: don’t say what kind of fish.
Leah: my sign is the deep fish……
Leah: it goes deep.
Russ: oh neat.
Leah: uh-huh. Hmm, that’s in the
middle part of the winter.
Russ: good, maybe you can explain this
a little bit about the signs because no one’s ever
gone into the signs part at all.
Russ: if you can give me a little
quick thing about your deep fish, how does that
relate to you as a person? Does that mean you have
Leah: deep thoughts, the fish is a
Leah: it doesn’t say much, it goes
deep in the water but it thinks deep and the other
fish because it goes so deep and can move so fast
are scared of it.
Leah: there’s the horak, trying to
think of what that would be. It’s a animal with a
Russ: like a pig?
Leah: describe what a pig is.
Russ: a pig is a quadrupedal, furless,
hairless……well partially haired animal that we use
for a food source down here.
Leah: that could be anything.
Leah: a little more detail please.
Russ: it’s fat, has a short, curly
tail, short, fat little nose that's squared off,
just the nostrils right there in front…..
Leah: and goes (makes a snorting
Russ: right that’s it, yeah.
Leah: yeah, that’s a horak.
Russ: oh okay, got it.
Leah: they’re…..on Sirius they’re not
so chubby, they move very, very fast.
Russ: oh, these don't.
Leah: they are quite smart. The horak
is the action animal.
Russ: oh, okay.
Leah: that’s Huna’s animal.
Russ: is it now?
Leah: but she was born on the point of
the changeover with the runner animal.
Russ: oh as we would call on the cusp.
Russ: yeah that would be the
changeover between the two signs.
Leah: uh-huh, ahh. She was born right
at the point of the changeover.
Russ: oh okay.
Leah: yeah oh she is part of horak and
part of the runner.
Russ: okay, I understand.
Leah: uh-huh, the runner is the
(Russ starts laughing)
Leah: uh-huh, it’s the one with the
ears and the whiskers.
Russ: ahhh okay.
Leah: so she has the……
Russ: the bunny.
(Russ laughs again)
Leah: she has the strength and stamina
of the horak and then the speed and agility of the
Russ: ahh and you have the deep fish.
Russ: it seems apt and quite well-put
just as with our signs are.
Russ: excellent thank you, that’s a
very enjoyable dissertation on your part.
Leah: any questions?
Russ: no you’ve covered it all thank
you Leah, very informative.
Russ: you’re not leaving yet, you
still have another while to go?
Russ: oh good.
Leah: I got my……..my main exams are
when.......been around your sun twice, no once.
Russ: oh one more month?
Leah: no, when Mars has been around
one more time to back to where it is now.
Russ: oh okay, another year.....and
some I'm told.
Leah: okay, I’ll catch you later.
Russ: bye love.
(Tia returns to usher in the Bunny Monster)
(Tia says hi in Durondedunn)
Russ: hi Tia.
Tia: you don’t know our astronomy do
we? Another year?
Russ: I don’t know, how long does Mars
take to get around our sun?
Tia: close to two years.
Russ: two years, well I said a year
and a bit.
Tia: you said and some I’m being told.
Russ: yeah, because Karra gave me a
bit of coaching.
Russ: I don’t know how long it takes
for Mars to get around the sun.
Tia: how long does it take?
Russ: 364 days, 12 hours and 36
Tia: you’ve lost a whole entire day.
Russ: no, I’ve lost 12 hours.
Tia: no you haven’t.
Russ: no, less than 12 hours.
Tia: it takes 365 days and six hours.
No, five hours and……do you want me to get real
Russ: no thank you darling.
Russ: we don’t have time for it.
(Tia says goodbye in Durondedunn)
Tia: okay, I will put on the next
Russ: Korton’s not coming back in?
Tia: he says that there isn’t anything
Russ: oh okay.
up the night)
Russ: hey Bunny.
Russ: so a horak?
Russ: and a bunny, how cute. It’s a
Bunny: uh-huh, a mental picture huh?
Russ: you bet. Good, that’s quite
fascinating, I like listening about the Tenuvial
Russ: and long does your little
portion of this…..
Bunny: I’ve never done my part.
Russ: but you know it by heart so…….
Russ: really? That’s very good, how
long does it take?
Bunny: it takes five hours.
Russ: and you learned it by heart?
Russ: you’re quite an actress.
Bunny: I have to be.
Russ: yes you do, that’s quite a
Russ: well I can’t wait to hear about
your telling of the story someday.
Russ: when does it happen? When is the
next gathering of the family?
Bunny: the next gathering of the
family is on the conjunction of the sun and the
Russ: ahh, so sometime in the near
future I take it?
Russ: okay, well good.
Bunny: and everybody tells a part. For
the family members that live far away they select an
individual to tell their part.
Russ: oh, hmm.
Russ: well if your part’s five hours
long and there’s 3,000 family members….
Russ: well they can’t all be five
Russ: oh okay. I was going to say,
you’d be basically living there for a year or so
listening to this story.
Bunny: uh-huh, it’s……our father is
head of family.
Bunny: so as daughters and sons we
Russ: oohhh, the longer parts.
Bunny: that’s right.
Russ: that’s right, I forgot.
Russ: ahh, okay. Hmm, now with your
family, is it very structured as far as from the
head of the family down?
Bunny: the higher up in the family the
more structured it is.
Russ: okay so you have to go to
specific family functions as a family member being
as you’re daughter of the head of the family?
Russ: oh so you’re not like Karra
where you have to do a certain role and all.
Bunny: no, that goes to…….
Russ: not your older sister, not
Leah’s older sister?
Bunny: the way it works is, on the
climbing pole there is my father and my mother and
then there is my biggest brother and then my biggest
sister and they have important parts to play. And
then there is Leah and she has a little part to play
and there’s me and my little brother, we don’t get
to play any parts except for at really big family
Russ: what are you going to do then,
tell your story?
Russ: that's it.
Bunny: uh-huh so I can get away with
wriggling around at family meetings.
Russ: oh yes, not for long.
Bunny: I can get away with it as long
as I want.
Russ: (laughs) okay so your family is
important as far as trade and things go on Sirius I
Russ: well with the fishing, the
things like that, your family has a part to play
itself in the whole grand scheme of Sirius.
Russ: right, so is there any part of
that that you are responsible for?
Russ: oh okay. So you don't have to
learn the family business or something?
Russ: you lucky girl.
Bunny: uh-huh, it’s not expected of
Bunny: I can sun myself on the beach
all day, I can go to college for as long as I want,
Russ: gallivant around the galaxy.
Bunny: uh-huh, I can get joined as
much as I want and nobody can say a word.
Russ: so in other words there is no
such thing as family scandals?
Bunny: you want to hear family
(Russ starts laughing)
Bunny: I heard a story a while ago of
a family that the head lady, the head lady, I think
the head is quite appropriate in this story
Russ: I won’t wonder who’s that family
bunny: I know who’s family it
Russ: so anyway.
Bunny: yes it was that family.
Russ: that’s too funny.
Russ: with that in mind then
basically, have you had a chance to really get out
and explore the galaxy at all or no, not really?
Bunny: no, the only part I’ve seen of
the galaxy is from my chambers.
Russ: so you haven’t been to the city
ships yet at all?
Bunny: city ships, no.
Russ: oh yeah? You plan on going
Russ: yeah? Okay good.
Bunny: uh-huh, I’ll make a tour.
Russ: well it’s funny, even down here
we know what the city ships kind of are setup as, as
far as their……
Bunny: yeah, they could do with some
rest and relaxation, I’ll liven things up.
Russ: yes I'm sure you will dear.
Russ: of course they will have already
got a chance to witness you in
probably a few different holos up there.
Russ: so you’ll be a celebrity when
you go up.
Bunny: uh-huh, I’m actually working on
one of the moment, did it a couple nights ago.
Russ: oh did you?
Russ: ahh excellent.
Bunny: three guys and two girls and
Russ: ahh and how’s the editing going
Bunny: I keep on getting stuck in
particular parts as I’m editing.
Russ: getting a little too excited
through the editing part?
Russ: must be a tough job.
Bunny: oh yeah but somebody’s got to
Russ: somebody’s got to do it.
Bunny: and my assistant is very
willing and helpful.
Russ: I’ll bet.
Bunny: uh-huh, actually I have two
assistants, they take it in turns.
Russ: is there credits and everything
Russ: this holo performed by Huna
Bunny: I use my stage name.
Russ: oh okay.
Russ: edited by her assistant whoever
Russ: and also this other assistant
whoever that is.
Bunny: uh-huh. Actually the assistants
are in it as well.
Russ: and there is a storyline?
Russ: okay, what is the storyline of
your latest video…..oh excuse me holo that you’re
Bunny: okay, two girls…..
Bunny: are out in the woods…..
Bunny: uh-huh and they come across a
girl and two guys.
Bunny: and they spend the night in a
cabin and this terrible storm comes up and there’s
no joinings at this point.
Russ: there isn’t?
Bunny: no well apart from a beautiful
love scene between the girl and one of the guys.
Bunny: and they play a faithful couple
throughout the whole entire thing that is trying to
Bunny: and while this storm's going on
this guy comes in that is terribly cold and got
caught in the storm and he’s taken care of by one of
the girls and there’s a beautiful resuscitation
scene that turns from a resuscitation scene into a
full-on love scene.
Bunny: and then there’s my scene and
I’ve got different hair and I’m wearing a little
less makeup than I normally wear in the holos and I
look a lot, lot younger and I get seduced by the guy
that was rescued and the girl.
Bunny: uh-huh and I have to portray
the part as a virgin, it's a lot of the fun that is.
Russ: oh okay.
Bunny: uh-huh, it takes a lot of
muscle control and I get turned into a sex-craved…..
Russ: that's not a big stretch of your
Bunny: no. I turned into a sex-craved
and I try to seduce first the guy and I don’t
succeed and then I try to seduce the girl, the two
Russ: uh-huh yes.
Bunny: and she almost gives in but is
rescued by her boyfriend.
Bunny: and there’s a beautiful
consummation scene and then it finishes up with
myself getting very passionate with the one girl and
the two guys.
Bunny: and then it ends with me
sitting all on my own wearing a big dress going, “oh
Russ: oh you’re pregnant?
Russ: ahhh I get it. Okay so you
filmed this up on Wookie……on the mountain, the ski
Bunny: we did it in several locations
Bunny: we did the storm scene in the
Bunny: we did the seducing of me in
the woods up above Lake Dolphin.
Bunny: and then we did a lot of it, a
lot of the more intimate scenes in the garden at the
back of Mark’s place.
Russ: anybody else in there I know
that was in this?
Bunny: no, just six of us.
Russ: but none of them I know except
Bunny: that’s right.
Bunny: the hardest part of the whole
entire thing was doing the virgin scene.
Russ: I can imagine that was a stretch
of your imagination.
Bunny: I reached back and remembered
quite easy but it was……to act I get into that state.
Bunny: it takes a lot of muscle
Russ: well I’ll try to stay awake…..or
try to stay solid enough to watch this at some
Bunny: oh I won’t have it finished for
Bunny: there’s a few technical
Bunny: and the funny thing is I don’t
know any of their names.
Russ: I would learn them.
Bunny: uh-huh, well we were acting
with different names.
Russ: oh okay.
Russ: well thank you my dear, that was
Bunny: actually the girl that plays
the faithful one, she's really into sexual activity.
Russ: hmm, so a bit of acting on her
Bunny: uh-huh. She has a holo of me in
my first…..well she has all my discs.
Russ: that’s a fan.
Bunny: oh yeah. She almost died when I
Russ: oh neat.
Bunny: she said that she would do
anything so I asked to see her acting skill.
Russ: well you certainly asked for
Bunny: so I gave her a demanding role
as a faithful girl.
Russ: well excellent my dear.
Russ: good job on your part.
Bunny: yeah I think I might do a
Russ: hmm, I think you should.
Russ: well anyway, we’ve got to get on
to the next speaker.
Bunny: oh yeah and I’ve got to go off
and deal with several urges.
Russ: okay well have fun all your one
(Korton judges what is acceptable from the last
Korton: greetings Russ.
Russ: greetings Korton.
Korton: Miss Tenuvial and her intimate
actions, let’s not put that on the Internet.
Russ: let’s not. We can put some of it
though, the first part there.
Korton: yes, I suggest that you edit
Russ: I will do so.
Korton: her pheromone level is
extremely high, her aura is I believe you would say
Korton: very passionate. Okay.
(Tia brings on her triple soul to
round out the night)
(Tia says hello in Durondedunn)
Russ: hi Tia.
Tia: gotta hustle, running short on
Russ: okay babe.
(Kiri uses up what
little tape is left)
Russ: hi Kiri.
Kiri: yo dude.
Russ: all right babe, what’s your
Kiri: what’s my sign? High-fives.
Russ: high-fives sign.
Kiri: that’s my sign. Why are you
asking everybody’s sign?
Russ: oh I’m just kind of curious,
I’ve never had that in what, five years? I’ve never
asked anybody their sign.
Kiri: oh, mine’s the orap.
Russ: same as…..
Kiri: no, that’s a horak.
Russ: what’s that look like?
Kiri: you would call it an antelope?
Russ: oh an antelope.
Kiri: fast, springy, little
Russ: ahh, good job. What’s Karra’s?
Kiri: Karra’s is the biyak.
Russ: a biyak.
Russ: what’s that?
Kiri: that’s kind of a half humanoid
and a half bear.
Russ: you’re kidding me, Karra? Hmm,
Russ: cool, thanks love.
Kiri: yeah. That’s a wise person of
Russ: oh I get it, sort of like our
Pan kind of thing?
Russ: oh okay, I got you.
Russ: I’ll have to ask her about that.
All right love, so what are we on to tonight? We’re
onto let’s see……memorial to Princess Diana?
Kiri: I’ll work with Karra on that due
to the fact that somebody might get very sensitive
Russ: okay yeah, our timing is just
going to be kind of tight on this though.
Kiri: uh-huh yeah, we will link minds
Russ: send it over to me alright.
Kiri: yeah besides, I’m going to be
out of commission pretty soon on that front and I
keep on getting passes made at me.
Russ: commission on what front?
Kiri: on the Bunny front.
Kiri: and her urges.
Russ: well what’s wrong with you,
you’re going on your period soon?
Russ: oh bummer.
Kiri: yeah, it happens.
Russ: okay, so you want to get busy
and get through this part real quick.
Kiri: well it won’t start until
probably…..not today that’s for sure.
Russ: oh good, okay. Let’s see, so
we’re onto, let’s see Kiri, Kiri, Kiri, Kiri.
Kiri: yes I was the last time I looked
Russ, Russ, Russ, Russ.
Russ: engineering on the split up
Kiri: do you have to make me think?
Russ: I thought maybe it would be a
change of pace for you.
Kiri: I’m trying to think actually,
I'm libbing ab….
Kiri: let me see, ab libbing. She’s
got me mixing my words up now. Okay let me see, we
don’t have that long on the tape do we? We have
about five minutes.
Russ: let me check. We got a little
bit of time here, I’d say about 10 minutes.
Kiri: hmm, let me see. Okay brief, God
that’s going to have to be brief because it is quite
Russ: want to save it for next week?
Kiri: might be best to.
Kiri: it is rather long and drawn out,
in fact I’ll talk to Tia and see if she can put me
on a little bit sooner.
Russ: all right.
Kiri: uh-huh well actually next week
is Bunny’s last week isn’t it?
Russ: yeah we’ll just schedule things
Russ: because I would like to get this
Kiri: uh-huh, it’s going to be a
Russ: besides it will give you a
chance to practice up and work on it a
Kiri: yeah, get rid of some of the
useless stuff that I’ve got worked out.
Russ: okay fair enough.
Kiri: yeah get it a little bit more
Russ: we’ve got a lot of stuff going
on here anyway right now so we’ll just play around
now for the rest.
Kiri: oh yeah, and Korton is fading
out so........he says he’s not going all the way,
he’s just conserving energy.
Russ: oh, good job for Korton.
Russ: I haven’t seen him too, I
haven’t seen him in a while.
Kiri: wasn’t he in the week before
Russ: yeah but he’s not……it’s
been…..remember it used to be at least once a week.
Russ: it would be Omal then Korton and
Russ: and maybe you once in a while.
Kiri: uh-huh, oh back at the start?
Russ: right yeah.
Russ: but it would always Omal and
Korton for the most part.
Kiri: uh-huh. Well they found out
their duties quite well I think.
Russ: uh-huh, I think it’s a really
well structured sessions now.
Kiri: uh-huh yeah, looking back on
what it went through, it was very, very
Kiri: and then it kind of got relaxed
and a little rambling and now it’s been
brought back to a tighter format, kind of
combination of the both.
Russ: yeah well there’s points there
where we had various guests like Johnny and stuff
where we couldn't get into a structured format
Kiri: uh-huh, but Skip fitted in very
well in the structured format.
Russ: I agree but there was the
Bethany sessions which were pretty structured.....
Kiri: yeah but I think that with the
growing, the structure is important.
Russ: I agree, in fact I don’t know if
you read my dissertation……no you didn’t, Karra
hasn’t told you yet that I did a dissertation about
Kiri: lots of Karra's stuff?
Kiri: her two healing things?
Russ: uh-huh, the one tonight and then
the one from last week.
Russ: and the one we’re working on.
Kiri: what about the one……oh that’s
already on there, thank you Tia. Yeah I mean she’s
getting some good stuff in…..
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