STARGATES AND CYDONIA 10/29/96


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Archivist Notes: Quite a session came to be recorded this night back in 1996. Topics both big and small happened but none more so than the revelations about the Giza Plateau and Cydonia on Mars as related by Omal. Normally that would be the main topic but Tia gives us a lesson on politics that even blows that away as far as wow factor.

And so it is we'll start with Tia explaining in a new way the reasons for the two party system in the U.S. and why it is so much a part of how elections take place. A very timely topic as the candidates for the 2016 Presidential election announce their intentions and things get underway. Not as much will of the people we find out as the will of who is in charge. Omal comes on next to review a recent coercive attack I had been subjected to and how I could have done better. He finishes up the side noting that meta-concert practice in shielding would have little chance if one of the people testing the shields had been a part of the original meta-concert.

On side two, Omal finishes his thought before moving on to answer questions regarding the moon landings in regards to their connection to intentional Stargates. He also helps with questions on the Great Pyramid, the Sphinx and Cydonia beyond what was asked and reveals some startling information on their roles which is picked and expended on by Tia during the transition. Unfortunately we don't learn what she discovers which would have been world shaking had it slipped out. Karra goes over the results of a mental merging game between her and myself and Kiri and Mark. More practice was the verdict. More practice was also the verdict of a healing I did while she watched through the monitors on the base. Tia finishes up the rest of side two with news of the base. 
 

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TIA Ring Mistress MARK (Channel)
OMAL RUSS
KARRA


 Part 1 Listen to this episode (RIGHT CLICK AND OPEN IN A NEW TAB)
Duration: 45:53 min. - File type: mp3

Part 2 Listen to this episode (RIGHT CLICK AND OPEN IN A NEW TAB)
Duration: 39:48 min. - File type: mp3

SIDE 1

SIDE 2

2.)(15:54)- Tia almost reveals some information about the various pyramids on various planets but Omal puts a stop to that.

3.)(21;56)- Karra offers advice on a recent healing I did and where I needed to improve on before the next one.

4.)(31:53)- Tia finishes up with news of the last week about the general goings on at a typical Ashtar Command base of this size.



 



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SIDE ONE

(Tia gets things started in a most unusual way.)

Tia: okay, good evening. Welcome to this channeling session, the last one of the month of October on October the 29th, 1996. Iím here tonight with Russ, Russ, do you have some questions for me?

Russ: yeah, I do.

Tia: he does. Okay, what questions do you have for me this evening?

Russ: can you wait a second while I get my shoes off?

Tia: certainly, as Russ undoes his shoelaces one by one at a time and a look of disgust is on his face and he takes a deep breath and goes *sighs* in irritation and frustration, the fact that Durondedunnís and females are much more intelligent and smarter. Okay.

Russ: careful there. (Cautioning her before she moved Mark's body towards something in the room.)

Tia: plenty of room there, plenty of room. Okay, now weíre going to have to talk fairly loudly for it to come out clear.

Russ: actually I think with the dials all the way up, it will be catching it anyway.

Tia: okay.

Russ: y
eah soÖ

Tia: Iíll hold it.

Russ: okay, fair enough. All right, meanwhile back on serious.

Tia: Sirius? No this is coming live from Hades Base dear, fifth dimensional Mars being held in a sixth dimensional space, as if he didnít know.

Russ: no, a sixth dimensional held in a fifth dimensional space.

Tia: it works either way. Come on, letís get to the questions.

Russ: no it doesnít, it only works one way, you canít reverse the two.

Tia: letís get on with the questions, time is a wasting.

Russ: all right, time capsules and the hall of records. NowÖÖÖ.(Ed. note: I lose my place at this point on the topic.)

Tia: any communicator would just go like this and would have carried on talking as if thereís nothing wrong instead of goingÖÖ"what is there"?

Russ: this is concerning the Sphinx and the new chamber that they found about 25 feet below the rightÖ..excuse me, left paw that theyíre looking at opening up. At currently, there is a hints of metal being found within it and Iíll give you the exact descriptions here. OkayÖ..

Tia: that noise was Russ hitting the microphone with his hand.

Russ: okayÖÖ1991, a team led by Boston Universityís Robert Schoch using remote sensing equipment, detected a large rectangular chamber concealed in the bedrock 20 feet below the paws of the Sphinx. Now, we are......last month using radar, they detected the presence of metallic substances or metallic objects.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: now, we also note that Edgar Casey said that....

Tia: yes with his predictions.

Russ: the hall of records from Atlantis would be found between 1996 and 1998.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: so, in the first place, what does this have to do with your future prolepsis of the event and our future?

Tia: itís not taken into consideration but it is one of those facts that I see will not have a major outcome on the upcoming events. Now, referring back to the upcoming events, there is something that needs to be said to clear up things to get the matter as clear as possible.

Russ: okay.

Tia: okay one is, if the current president is reelected right? Then the two years is definitely very near.

Russ: uh-huh.

Tia: okay, if there is a Democratic House elected at the same time, then oh dear because the liberals like Kennedy and that crowd, the elitist crowd that is superior than everybody else and intellectually knows what everybody wants will have free reign. Then when that happens you go to Defcon two.

Russ: okay. Now we are looking at that possibility of now happening, Democratic House being nominated along with a Democratic president again.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: so with Defcon two, do we just lock the doors and hide away or....?

Tia: no, you carry on as normal but you just speed up your preparations.

Russ: okay.

Tia: and wait for the winter as it were.

Russ: this winter or the next winter?

Tia: itís a figure of speech.

Russ: oh, I get it. Okay we have basically then just another week or so before the elections happen.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: and weíll know by then.

Tia: okay now, if it is just Clinton and a majority stays Republican right?

Russ: uh-huh.

Tia: what you do is a Defcon 3Ĺ or 2Ĺ rather right? Itís kind of hmmm and see what happens right? Now, if heís impeached right? You go to Defcon two.

Russ: because Gore will be in charge.

Tia: thatís right.

Russ: okay. Now, one thing that I want to get to real quick on that was you mentioned earlier that Gore and Hillary had a thing about wishing to control the government.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: well if Clinton gets impeached, that means Hillary will no longer have a role in this matter.

Tia: are you really that naÔve?

Russ: well no, it just stands to reason though that the presidentís wife wonít be anywhere near government if the president's no longer in office. (Ed: Okay, I really was that
naÔve.)
 
Tia: there is such a thing as pardon and going to visit and I donít think they would go to jail.

Russ: they would go to Georgia.

Tia: uh-huh, well Arkansas.

Russ: Arkansas, right.

Tia: uh-huh. So, they wonít be in prison, theyíll still be able to access and she will still have a lot of power.

Russ: but thatís only if he gets impeached.

Tia: thatís correct.

Russ: whichÖ.what do they call him, Mr. Teflon? Might not happen. Okay, now what do you want to talk about tonight? Do you want to discuss stuff about the great pyramid and the Sphinx?

Tia: okay, we willÖ.well thatís notÖ..

Russ: or save that for Omal.

Tia: weíll save that for Omal. I mean I could just sit here and go uh-huh, uh-huh and not be any the wiser, itís not my field, Iím a political analyst arenít I? Political analyst, mother, astral traveler and PK.

Russ: all right dear, Iíll save that for Omal then.

Tia: okay.

Russ: all right so, in coming up on our future then, letís go ahead and work on that.

Tia: okay.

Russ: okay. With the President Clinton and the Democratic Congress being elected letís say.

Tia: yeah.

Russ: then that would give us a two-year period from theoretically then their election.

Tia: uh-huh. Youíve got to watch the stock market very, very closely, very closely. At the moment it is doing some pretty odd things, donít you agree?

Russ: well, technologyís down.

Tia: uh-huh but yet it keeps on climbing.

Russ: uh-huh.

Tia: right? Now why is it climbing?

Russ: growth and prosperity?

Tia: yes but the growth and prosperity and the confidence is not that high. It is a slow gradual thing which in this case with supposedly with everything going great right? Itís not, thereís something very fishy going on, I canít really say what is going on.

Russ: well would you call it being manipulated by a president trying to get reelected and itís artificially
being enhanced?

Tia: yes and no, yes and no, itís a little bit tricky in how to word it. What is actually going on in my perception is that they are fudging the figures. For example, have you heard the latest comment that the deficit has been reduced four years in a row and itís all Clintonís doing?

Russ: yeah.

Tia: okay count back four years for me from Ď96 back.

Russ: weíd be back at Ď92.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: about this time before the election.

Tia: who was in office?

Russ: Bush.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: now I mentioned this way back like a month ago these numbers were being you know established.

Tia: uh-huh. Isnít it odd that it's now election time that all these figures of positive and everything is coming out whereas four years ago right? When the deficit first started being reduced, it was the worst economy in 40 years or 30 years.

Russ: well thatís because they wanted Clinton in office.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: so basically Bush was being pushed out of the office.

Tia: yeah.

Russ: now Bush basically gotÖ..was basically being paid back and he got tired of the job right?

Tia: uh-huh, pretty much so.

Russ: he didnít want to do it anymore anyway.

Tia: yeah.

Russ: I mean that was recalled as one of the worst campaigns next to Bob DoleísÖ.

Tia: no, Bob Dole has done a very good campaign. itís just that for example right? Bob Dole ripped intoÖ..last week into Clinton right?

Russ: uh-huh.

Tia: and what was the headlines? He also approached Perot right? And what was the headlines.

Russ: Perot.

Tia: uh-huh, and what was Perotís comment?

Russ: he didnít understand why Dole would even bother saying such a thing.

Tia: well he said that it was weird right? But yet, Dole had attacked Clinton right?

Russ: Doleís always attacking Clinton, he attacked Clinton last night.

Tia: yes but why would they suddenly turn around and say that Bob Doleís request to Perot was weird?

Russ: well because it beats having to say the same thing about Dole attacking Clinton.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: I mean thatís common nightly news. I mean thatís just something different.

Tia: yeah, but the fact is that half of this stuff that Dole does or 80% of the stuff that you see on your communication devices right? Are all negative.

Russ: thatís the liberal media.

Tia: thank you.

Russ: thatís already established.

Tia: so who is electing the president?

Russ: the secret government.

Tia: no, well yes but who is being......you know doing the footwork?

Russ: yeah but who controls the media? Thatís the question to be asked.

Tia: uh-huh. Well the media is one of these entities that controls itself and does what it feels it wants to. But the thing is that the people are being manipulated by the popular press. Theyíre the onesÖ.

Russ: yeah but you just said they're independent.

Tia: yeah theyíre independent, they are electing the president. Not you the people, not the secret governmentÖÖwell the secret government is, itís just that they happen to have two very close agendas. The secret government and the press have a very close agenda. Okay nowÖÖ.

Russ: well letís look at this real quick.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: okay if youíre in the media.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: okay letís say youíre Robert Murdoch okay or better yetÖÖ

Tia: Rupert Murdoch.

Russ: Rupert, better yet, letís take Turner.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: okay?

Tia: Frankie Turner.

Russ: now, he owns CNN.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: one of the worldís most looked to sources for news okay?

Tia: uh-huh and the most liberalist.

Russ: all right, well letís say okay, youíre assuming then that Turner is independent.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, now if thatís the case and youíre the secret government, then how do you influence someone like Turner to report news you want him to report?

Tia: you donít have to, he is like Kennedy an elitist right?

Russ: right.

Tia: and it just so happens that the elite establishment is what secret government wants right?

Russ: right.

Tia: so, you feed them information, they go on their sweet way right? They donít realize that theyíre being manipulated, theyíre not that smart.

Russ: well then how come the Republicans got elected then? What was the agenda there? You know Reagan, Bush years.

Tia: Reagan-Bush years?

Russ: yeah, that wasnít an elitist government by a long shot. It was a conservative government for 12 years.

Tia: yes, when it comes to Republicans right? They like a nice strong army right? They like a lot of free enterprise which also helps the secret government because they get more money for their budgets and stuff.

Russ: hmm.

Tia: you see?

Russ: so why change to a Democratic then?

Tia: because with a Democrat society right? With a Democrat leader, you can get away with more. With one you get the money right? Letís say next time, next election they need more money right?

Russ: right.

Tia: because the Democrats have cut their budget right?

Russ: uh-huh.

Tia: so what you do? You need more money? You need to get it from the government, what you do?

Russ: be a Republican.

Tia: thatís right.

Russ: but, what I have to worry about though is if we have a two-year window here before everything starts happening, then why is the secret government getting ready to start that? Doesnít it seem like that would be going against their aims or are they even in control of that?

Tia: I think itís something that has got beyond their control or it is possible that it is exactly what they are planning for, chaos and mayhem.

Russ: well thatís two separate opposites.

Tia: yeah but chaos and mayhem right?

Russ: uh-huh.

Tia: would benefit them tremendously correct?

Russ: hmmm, it seems they would lose their power base.

Tia: no, they would gain more power because they would be able to manipulate various groups and individuals against each other right?

Russ: yeah.

Tia: and infiltrate into those groups so therefore they would have much more of a controlling opportunity. Now if you go the other way right?

Russ: uh-huh.

Tia: where they are free to do their own thing, again they get more control. You see theyíre on a win-win situation except if you come with a third possibility. Right is that the people get pissed off right? And just destroy the government.

Russ: right.

Tia: therefore theyíre out of business but the people wonít do that. You see the people like the Democrats at the moment because itís got to the point where it is no longer ask what you can do for yourÖÖ..no longer ask your country what it can do for you but you can do for your country. Itís now become ask what your country can do for you.

Russ: hmm.

Tia: do you know that if I lived down there right? With my children, my children would pay 80% of their money into taxes by the time that they retire. 80% of the money that they earn will be taken away in taxes.

Russ: but those taxes are returned to them in various ways though.

Tia: name one.

Russ: police force.

Tia: name another.

Russ: fire department.

Tia: name another, donít think locally.

Russ: okay, Medicaid, Medicare.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: Social Security.

Tia: no, no. Do you know that 60% of your current money that you pay in taxes to Social Security is not going into your retirement fund? Itís paying those people that are already retired. Youíre only going to get 40% back if that.

Russ: well weíre not be around to see that anyway.

Tia: thatís beside the point, what about those people that will be?

Russ: they wonít be, theyíre getting it now and after that itís not going to matter one way or another.

Tia: because there wonít be any welfare.

Russ: right.

Tia: okay now, why is it that your press reports the Republican plan on the welfare reform as cuts when nothing was cut?

Russ: it makes it easier for the person to understand.

Tia: but thatís a total lie, that is a total lie, nothing was cut.

Russ: right, we've discussed this.

Tia: yeah but Iím saying that Iím having a hard time understanding your society. I think the felines need to go out, Iíll pause the tape.

Russ: just hit that red button again.

Tia: this one?

Russ: yeah.

Tia: okay.

Russ: okay, now let me ask you a question Tia.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: all right, what does it do to discuss what will happen and why is it happening and putting stuff down when in fact we know that what is to happen is to help us make the next evolutionary advancement? Therefore anything that happening good or bad is all good, itís perfect for the future.

Tia: okay, you know whatís going on, I know whatís going on.

Russ: correct.

Tia: Mark knows whatís going on and a few individuals know whatís going on right?

Russ: right.

Tia: what about those that donít? Say for example let me thinkÖÖsomebody from the chat room right?

Russ: okay.

Tia: they go to your page right?

Russ: uh-huh.

Tia: and they find out whatís going on. How does it relate to them in their third dimensional mindset?

Russ: it makes them prepare.

Tia: thatís right. So by going over it and explaining it again and again right? Of what is possibly going to happen, then they are prepared but they cannot prepare themselves in a spiritual way so we have to nudge them into doing things that will prepare them in a different way. By looking at it and saying, ďokay, Bob Dole did this, Bill Clinton did this, Bob Dole did this, Bill Clinton did that." You see, it gives them the options and the facts of what is really going on, not what the press and the secret government wants them to think but what really is.

(Tia says something to a cat in the room in Duronedunn.)

Russ: but now weíre not going at this from a spiritual point of view either.

Tia: uh-hmm.

Russ: why not?

Tia: for the simple reason that you have to look at different spiritual organizations right? And you have to come up with a neutral ground. A neutral ground is very important.

Russ: okay, now back to my original question.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: even those people who donít have the preparedness, letís say theyíve never seen our webpage, they donít have any clue of whatís going on which is a vast majority of the people on the planet, donít they at some point become aware and learn that the same things weíre going to learn?

Tia: yes eventually, eventually but in the meantime you have to explain it to them in a different way where they will understand it. You see itís not just you know a 1,000 people that have been to your webpage right?

Russ: right.

Tia: it is a 1,000 people that have been there plus the people they have told. They may have told two, three people so itís no longer a thousand, youíre talking 4,000 and maybe that 4,000 has talked to another thousand so thatís 5,000 people that do not have access but are aware. So you have to lay it out in such a way that it is plain, no reference of spirituality right?

Russ: right.

Tia: so that they can understand it and process it and go, ďhuhĒ. You see what Iím saying?

Russ: right and all I can see is that everything that is going to happen is supposed to happen.

Tia: yeah, weíve covered that and we've explained that but weíre helping them to look at the options, to give them aÖ.theyíre at a junction right?

Russ: uh-huh.

Tia: which road do they take? Letís say the palm of Markís hand here is the main road right?

Russ: right.

Tia: and these are all the alternate roads right?

Russ: five fingers.

Tia: yeah. Okay, only one of these roads leads in the right way, weíve got to point them without interfering to the one that leads down the right road.

Russ: correct.

Tia: so we have to word it so theyíll understand it and make them think and increase their chances of picking the right road. If they donít pick the right road, itís going to be longer for them. You see, weíre caught in a very unique position that we have to choose whether or not we interfere totally by saying, ďno, youíre going in the wrong direction, this is what you have to do.Ē Or by staying out and supplying information but having the information pointing in the direction that they need to go.

Russ: but at the same time a person out of those five fingers letís say is shown the right path.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: saying "these other four arenít going to work." Okay? ďThis middle path here that you pick or that is there open to you is the right path.Ē

Tia: yeah.

Russ: which would be in your case the interference that youíre talking about.

Tia: thatís right.

Russ: okay, now the person has a choice at that point to follow that path......

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: or not. They also have a choice on whether following that path, they stay on the path or whether they diverge off of it.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: odds of them actually going along with your suggestion and following that path to its very end without divergence is small in the first place.

Tia: but itís a chance we have to take.

Russ: correct so the interference that you talk about is actually really only guidance and a person has the free will to decide whether they wish to choose to be guided or whether they want to do it on their own.

Tia: yes and no, yes and no. The yes part is, yes they do have free will but if you stack the information is such a way right? It takes away that free will. For example, getting back to your newspapers and your communication devices right?

Russ: right.

Tia: they want Bill Clinton.

Russ: correct.

Tia: they report only 25% of what Mr. Dole actually says and of that 25% that they report they take all the negative.

Russ: okay.

Tia: okay, which does what?

Russ: well it puts a distinctly negative slant on things.

Tia: exactly. Anything possibly negative they report and set up in a way that would point people in a direction to vote for Clinton.

Russ: okay but at the same timeÖÖ..all right, Iíve watched C-SPAN where there is no bias involved, itís merely a camera set up for a Dole speech.......

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: and Iíve watched numerous Dole speeches and my impression as is the impression of everyone whoís not just getting soundbites but who is actually watching you know his speeches and the debates.......

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: see Dole as not very secure, not a very good speaker, not a very good politician as far as campaigning wise. He looks like heís nervous, he looks like you know he canít complete a sentence without stuttering at some point in it and he just doesnít look as sharp as Mr. Clinton does.

Tia: heís not polished on your communication devices.

Russ: correct.

Tia: but that means absolutely nothing when it comes to actual politics.

Russ: well the same thing that happened to the debate is happening with the voters, they donít see a positive image being impressed out by the Republicans.

Tia: yeah but the thing is that Dole has a lot more political experience than Clinton will ever have. He knows how to make things happen, he has around him some very good individuals right? That have been painted absolutely horribly by the press. They are running in fear that these people will be elected because if they are elected, their good times are over.

Russ: hmm.

Tia: with this current administration, your government has actually stepped backwards. Itís not going forward, itís not preparing for the next century. There's all this Internet access for every school child, condoms for everybody but the morals are going. The morals are what would keep the country on its path to prosperity and be able to handle the upcoming events. With the lack of morals right? The fact that itís become immoral for a six-year-old child to kiss another six-year-old child or for a teenager to bring headache tablets to school, drug policy you see or to bring a steak knife to cut up chicken or you know one of many things. No longer can the children read the books that they learn from, the books have to be politically correct, the books have to be censored, the books have to beÖÖyou know all these things you havenít looked into right, what's going on in the schools?

Russ: uh-hmm.

Tia: because you donít have children. I have, Iíve looked into them. I wouldnít want my children going to any of your schools. Theyíve taken away the punishment methods to stop wrongdoing. You know a child gets into more trouble for bringing aspirin to school than a child bringing a firearm to school.

Russ: thatís a little bit extreme, no they donít.

Tia: oh yes they do.

Russ: sheís got suspended.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: you bring a firearm to school, you get arrested.

Tia: no, a child actually did do that, brought the firearm to school, they had a search right? The child was suspended. It was repealed by the courts because it was an illegal search. That child got nothing, suspended for a day that brought the firearm to their school because it was an illegal search.

Russ: yeah but look at the reputation the kidís going to get from this point on. I mean heís got to live with that for the rest of his school term but thatís irrelevant to what were actually talking about.

Tia: no, it is what is happening to the rest of your society.

Russ: yes but itís only temporary due to the fact that the changes weíre talking about will take place in two years whether or not you knowÖÖ

Tia: Russ, the changes that are going to happen, are going to be real nasty and these things that are happening now are a prime example of what is going to happen. The sheer idiotic differences in a child bringing aspirin and a child bringing a handgun. One get suspended, the other one gets no trouble whatsoever.

Russ: but Tia, we talk about this every week okay? But the point of fact is that we areÖÖthere is nothing thatís going to change from what is going to happen now then what is different from what you are talking about. In two weeks the same president is going to be reelected.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: okay? Everything that weíre talking about doesnít matter due to the fact thatÖÖ

Tia: it does matter, it does matter. That is the reason why things are going the way that they are, the words that you just said explain a lot, it doesnít matter. It does matter.

Russ: why? Because we can change it?

Tia: yes.

Russ: how?

Tia: by getting people motivated, getting people prepared. Thatís what weíre trying to do with the webpage is to get them prepared.

Russ: which is what weíre doing.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: well weíre not going to change the fact that a kid going to school with aspirin is going to get less than a person going to school with a firearm.

Tia: you have to put the morals in.

Russ: in two years?

Tia: in two years you could build the building blocks.

Russ: with the webpage?

Tia: well, with a small nucleus, maybe that small nucleus will help. A little crack in the dam or little drop of rain fills that lake out there, a little drop at a time. (Lake Tahoe.) Thatís what youíre trying to do is you have a big open hole the ground and you want to fill it with water, you have to do it a drop at a time.

Russ: right.

Tia: okay so youíve had your webpage how long? Six months?

Russ: not quite.

Tia: okay, let us say six months.

Russ: all right, let's say six months.

Tia: okay, how many people have visited that in that time?

Russ: about a 1,000.

Tia: okay now, how long do we have left?

Russ: two years.

Tia: two years which is 24 months okay. Now, that thousand that has visited your webpage in the past six months right?

Russ: uh-huh.

Tia: has told 4,000 people in total right? So thatís 5,000 people right? Multiply that by four, how manyís that?

Russ: 20,000.

Tia: no, yeah 20,000. Thatís 20,000 people and howís he getting in? (Talking about one of the house cats.) Is there a door open downstairs?

Russ: I closed it.

Tia: well heís got rain on him and heís wet.

Russ: you got me. Came in from the garage maybe?

(Tia speaks to the cat in Durondedunn.)

Tia: okay.

Russ: all right now weíre assuming that this 20,000 is  actually taking place.

Tia: uh-huh, assuming.

Russ: assuming. Okay, now with what weíre doing here, okay we are preparing people for the future correct?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: all right. So what weíre doing is in essence preparing them for after-the-fact, thereís not a lot that can be done to change the fact.

Tia: no, whatís going to happen is going to happen.

Russ: right, we've discussed that.

Tia: but, yes weíve discussed it many times but you can minimize what is going on by setting up various plans. Iím not saying you tell them how things are going to be, this is how they do it, blah, blah, blah, blah. What Iím saying is that you plan to push them in a particular way. These individuals that check out your page have morals right?

Russ: uh-huh.

Tia: but they're so fed up with people battering down their morals right? That theyíre almost giving up. Your page is basically patting them on the back and saying that theyíre doing a good job and their morals are worth keeping. Donít give up. Basically what the webpage is, is a bright light in a dark gloom.

Russ: I agree.

Tia: okay, now Iíve got to put on the next person.

Russ: okay.



(Omal changes places with Tia on the channeling couch on the base.)

Omal: greetings and felicitations Russ.

Russ: greetings Omal.

Omal: and let us get down to business.

Russ: got it.

Omal: okay, let us proceed.

Russ: okay, real quickly, I want to go back a little bit on what Tia and I were talking about.

Omal: okay.

Russ: okay, and that is that with whatís coming up, weíre providing the chance for people to see a glimpse of whatís going to happen and how to deal with it afterwards.

Omal: you are the beacon at the end of the dark tunnel.

Russ: correct and basically what weíre giving them is a look at how to make preparations for the future.

Omal: no, you are building a framework for them.

Russ: okay and Hades Base and Ashtar Command is part of that framework correct?

Omal: correct.

Russ: okay. Now how is what Tia and I are working with and Ashtar Command all going to be part of that framework?

Omal: in various ways.

Russ: okay.

Omal: okay, the floor that you stand on is the framework of the ground. Your bones are a framework, you do not see them but they are there. Hades Base is the framework of the bones. You put the meat on it, you teach the sixth dimensional thinking which is the muscle tissue and the person is the skin over the muscle tissue. Ashtar Command is the framework that supports the feet, the ground that they walk upon. You understand?

Russ: uh-huh and then the last part, the world on which the framework sits upon would be Sananda and the religion ofÖÖÖ..goes beyond Sananda.

Omal: correct.

Russ: hmm, leap of faith. OkayÖ..chill, (speaking to one of the cats.) All right, well thatís dealt with. Letís get on, we got lots of stuff to do tonight.

Omal: okay.

Russ: all right, first off, letís go to abilities.

Omal: okay.

Russ: shielding and coercion in conjunction.

Omal: yes.

Russ: and with using shieldingÖÖ.or coercion and shielding together.

Omal: yes.

Russ: we discussed how to fire a coercive shot through your shielding.

Omal: yes.

Russ: okay which is essentially you make a hole.

Omal: correct.

Russ: and then send it through.

Omal: correct but you have to be quick, if somebody has a coercive ability that is strong and senses that hole, they will use your coercive abilities against you and use it to augment their coercive ability as was demonstrated. (During a test.)

Russ: correct. Now how do we go about getting around that?

Omal: by being fast.

Russ: so the faster the better?

Omal: correct.

Russ: so kind of like a six shooter kind of thing, whoever gets the coercive bead on the other person first wins?

Omal: correct, pause.

Russ: oh. (A phone that is ringing gets answered.) Okay, now letís say youíre a little bit slow and you get nailed.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, how do you go around fixing the problem or can you?

Omal: you bring your shields back up. You close the hole, you realize that you are being manipulated. That is the first that you have to remember, you have to realize you are being manipulated.

Russ: okay as I did.

Omal: what are you going to do about it? Slam up your shields, back off.

Russ: correct.

Omal: donít launch your attack again because the individual will pick up on it. Donít forget, you have to fight somebody that may be is a little bit better than you or the same strength or worse than you. Donít pick somebody that is above you.

Russ: well you donít always have that choice unfortunately.

Omal: what you do in that situation, you do not put yourself in that position where you open your shields to fire a shot.

Russ: you just put up your shields and batten down andÖÖ

Omal: and wait and watch until the coercive stream starts to weaken.

Russ: okay, now shielding is an ability that is related to manifestation.

Omal: yes and no.

Russ: okay, weíve never really discussed that part before.

Omal: it is certainly linked to manifestation but it also linked to energy flow.

Russ: okay.

Omal: you use the aura to help augment your shields, toughen the outer layer of the aura.

Russ: okay.

Omal: I think your biggest failing was the fact that you did not put on a suit of armor.

Russ: well Iíve never gotten that part down really good yet.

Omal: you might have done better if you had.

Russ: well you know itís not my kind of country where suits of armor are really a workable idea in this century whereas with Mark itís a bit more anachronistic.

Omal: Mark is as Tia pointed out an anachronism.

Russ: true. OkayÖ..

Omal: someone that I find that fits in very well.

Russ: quite. Now, to increase shielding ability up to Grand Master or masterly status, one would need daily practice against imaginary attacks?

Omal: yes, also you would need practice against the real McCoy.

Russ: try to piss off Mark once in a while?

Omal: now there is a two-edged sword to this.

Russ: okay.

Omal: okay certainly that is a good idea but, what are you doing for him in return?

Russ: helping him with his.

Omal: youíre also doing what? Think.

Russ: ahhh.

Omal: by making him use what? What is occurring?

Russ: oh by making him use his shields?

Omal:  no.

Russ: oh his coercion.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: heís increasing his coercive ability.

Omal: correct.

Russ: good but for some reason I see that as being sort of counterproductive way of approaching this.

Omal: it is your choice, I cannot say whether or not it is good or bad.

Russ: right, itís just an option.

Omal: it is an option and something that you have to think about. Do you want this monster coercer kicking around your house.

Russ: I already got it kicking around my house. I think itís good for him to practice up on his coercion anyway.

Omal: you think he is a monster coercer now?

Russ: well not like Kiri or nothing of course.

Omal: okay put it this way, 20 years down the road, do you want Kiri in essence kicking around your house.

Russ: hell yes.

Omal: with the coercive level of Kiri?

Russ: absolutely.

Omal: then proceed as you are.

Russ: I mean looking at the positive coming back outweighs the negative.

Omal: you are a different feline. (Speaking to one of the house cats.)

Russ: yeah, thatís Oddball.

Omal: ahh, I was about to say, you have grown dramatically in the last few moments, who has been practicing manifestation? Lie down.

Russ: now, withÖ.

Omal: lie down.

Russ: okay now, the merging of two minds, for example myself and Karra or Mark and Kiri and Tia.

Omal: oh what a nasty combination.

Russ: where the minds are very closely linked as far as energy patterns go okay? Now, could you then go ahead and link then with a form of a correlated image, for example like a mandala? So that youíre all in synchronicity and you can merge?

Omal: yes, you can do that.

Russ: and then once you have that, can you flow togetherÖÖ

Omal: can we do something about this feline please? Be nice to her.

Russ: I am. Now once you have that, can you flow together in meta-concert using the technique you gave us where for like two or three.....?

Omal: yes you can butÖ..

Russ: but.

Omal: but when it comes to going up against one of your group, not necessarily your mind and Karraís mind, it can be counterproductive due to the fact that subconsciously the individual does know the weak points of the group meta-concert because he has been involved in that meta-concert.

Russ: oh I donít mean going against Mark, I mean just to strengthen myself up against people that I come up against.

Omal: if you use the same shielding that you have used in a meta-concert, then that should work but it will not work against Kiri, Tia or Mark because they know how to insert themselves into the meta-concert.

Russ: right.

Omal: but against other people, it does work.

Russ: good, that is what I wanted to look at then.

Omal: but, you have to realize thatÖÖÖ.


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(Omal picks up from where he left off.)

Omal: such as Skip, Judy, Johnny.......

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: you cannot go against them. If they come at you in aggressive mode and you have to go into a meta-concert, forget it because they know how to accept or to be inserted into your meta-concert. They have a key to unlock and damage your meta-concert. Now they can create their own meta-concert with other people and that in turn is a totally different meta-concert. They can link their meta-concert to your meta-concert and vice a versa.

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: but, members of their meta-concert cannot come in and learn or be inserted into your meta-concert, they have to learn how to act in your meta-concert.

Russ: oh okay which the subtleties of this escape me due to the fact that in an opposite situation, I have trouble understanding how being a part of our meta-concert hereÖÖ

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: would I be able get through on somebody elseís thatís been in it. I'm going to save that for later and just work on that...

Omal: okay.

Russ: see what I come up with. All right, now three areas of work Iíd like to work with on tonight, great pyramid, moon landings and the Sphinx.

Omal: okay, two are linked together, let us deal first of all with the lunar landings.

Russ: okay. All right, first off from the show I heard from Art Bellís program on the radio, concerning the lunar landing sites. A gentleman by the name of Farouk El-Baz whose father was an archaeologist, came to NASA from AT&T where they set up communications for the spaceships. As a result, he ended up being one of the persons who ended up picking out the landing sites.

Omal: the father of Farouk El-Baz was kind of an archaeologist.

Russ: yeah, that was kind of not reallyÖ.

Omal: he in actual fact would have been a head excavationer. He was the gentleman appointed by the archaeologist to do the excavating.

Russ: ahh, okay. Now he apparently chose the sites to form a hyper dimensional doorway or a Stargate and the sites were picked to due to their relationships to Sirius and Orion upon the horizon at the time of the landings. Wondering if this was successful and why did they try to do it that way?

Omal: first of all, no, they were not successful due to the fact that by landing them in a formation on a planet's surface does not work. You cannot make a Stargate through solid rock which answers the next question.

Russ: why?

Omal: why? Because the physics of a astral object is more complex. You are trying to create a hole through solid matter. That can be done however, with the equipment that they have used no, it is very improbable and dangerous to even attempt something. The mathematics that they use is flawed, they do not realize the fact that these objects have to be in their own gravitational field. They cannot be in another gravitational field, most Stargateís are outside of gravitational wells.

Russ: but within space itself.

Omal: correct.

Russ: so in another words, they wouldíve had to come up to a point in space to which the ships would have to travel through?

Omal: correct.

Russ: to align the various points of the gate.

Omal: correct.

Russ: thatís pretty tough to do in space.

Omal: correct.

Russ: well you could do it I suppose, space is not a moving object.

Omal: correct, think.

Russ: the planets are moving so to be able to do so, youíd have to basically just go to that same point in space from your starting point no matter where your starting point had moved to.

Omal: correct.

Russ: not that tough after all actually really.

Omal: no it is not. You create a Stargate, let us say it is a five pointed Stargate.

Russ: okay.

Omar okay to get there, you would use a teleport system, a short range teleport system.

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: youíd have to put it outside of your solar system so youíd have to use a hop method to teleport from one place to another. Teleports on your dimension are very clumsy and dangerous.

Russ: here on third dimension?

Omal: correct. On higher dimensions, they become less dangerous. On the sixth dimension they are still dangerous, they still malfunction is the best way to describe them.

Russ: but actually, when you go to the higher dimensions like that with all but sixth, you donít need teleports anyway since you canÖ.

Omal: that is correct.

Russ: travel by thought so whatís the point?

Omal: it is the eighth where you travel by thought. The seventh, is the last time that you have this, flesh and blood, calcium, magnesium.....

Russ: well you mentioned the sixth being called understanding which takes place after you know what the fourth and fifth is.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: what would be called the seventh and eighth then?

Omal: spirituality and awareness.

Russ: hmm, itís quite a ways, itís going to be a while before I get there.

Omal: uh-huh, but let us get back to the teleport.

Russ: right.

Omal: short range teleports work fine and when I say short range, I mean at most 5 miles. The stunt that they did with Kiri, Tia and Mark of putting them down in a hangar was a joke. That is the safe range. (Ed: They had tried an astral travel meta-concert test to the local airport.)

Russ: uh-huh, okay.

Omal: any further and it becomes dangerous.

Russ: all right. Okay, next section. Okay we know that didnít work. Also, in a couple notes I noticed here was number one, Voyager's headed for Sirius after it leaves our solar system here or it already has.

Omal: uh-huh. It has one more piece of shocking information to reveal.

Russ: oh whatís that?

Omal: I cannot tell you.

Russ:  ah okay, weíll find out, hopefully. And then the date of July 20th keeps popping up. Date of the moon landing, the date the Mars Observer just before it was set to photograph Cydonia got lost conveniently July 20th and then Vince Foster was killed on July 20th.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: whatís with July 20th? Iím sure Iím only touching the iceberg here with July 20th.

Omal: what is with July the 20th?

Russ: I donít know.

Omal: okay, let us look at it with a mathematical formula.

Russ: okay.

Omal: okay, take all the major occurrences that have occurred on that day.

Russ: all right.

Omal: okay, divide that by the number itself.

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: that will give you a key number. Take the number of events of a spatial phenomenon or phenomenons.

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: multiply that by that number. You take both numbers, the one of the spatial anomaly and the actual events. You multiply them together and the answer will surprise you.

Russ: okay.

Omal: but it has to be all the events of significance.

Russ: all the known events.

Omal: no, all of the events.

Russ: that could be tricky. So you just throw in July 20th in your search program in your computer and it comes up with everything you can find on July 20th.

Omal: which wouldnít be everything.

Russ: no, correct. A lot of research would have to take place for that one.

Omal: correct.

Russ: all right well, weíll go on to the next phase which is great pyramid and the Sphinx.

Omal: ahh yes.

Russ: okay, now concerning the great pyramid, as we know in September they found the doorway.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: nowÖ.or excuse me, back in Ď93 they found the doorway in the great pyramid in theÖ..

Omal: Queenís chamber.

Russ: in the Queens chamber into a section that ledÖ.or a chute that led up to the constellation of Sirius.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: now theyíve set this up theoretically for trying this out on December 5th, 10,000 days after the moon landing on Tranquility Base.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and theoretically, what will be done is it will be secret because it will be set up in conjunction with the working on the Sphinx.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: opening up a chamber there so kind of a bait and switch tactic theyíre going to try. So weíll see what happens. Now concerning the Sphinx, we have a chamber found 25 feet below the paw.......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: which theoretically is shown metallic objects within it due to radar searching. Now, what Iím wondering is, if they do open this up and they do find let's say Cayceís Hall of records, is the information going to be even viable or is that all working in conjunction with the great pyramid? Are the two connected?

Omal: yes and no. The great pyramid, if you think about it, is a conscious computer in essence.

Russ: correct.

Omal: for it to be on its own, would make it a very lonely conscious computer. Anything that has a glimmer of intelligence, it is attracted to.

Russ: now Mark and I discussed the fact that when he got sent over to the Sphinx, in other words it turned into like a Stargate and fired him off in a very short distance to the Sphinx. (During an astral travel trip to the Queenís Chamber.)

Omal: no.

Russ: no.

Omal: it was the energy that booted him out.

Russ: okay.

Omal: the energy exchange of information, that is what it fired him out of there. The fact that he ended up sitting on top of a Sphinx is just coincidental.

Russ: ahh okay, so that part's not going to......but as a lonely intelligence gathering machine letís say, what has the Sphinx have to do with the great pyramid then, to help it give it company?

Omal: yes and no. It reminds it of its goal. it is a companion as it were.

Russ: okay when you speak of goal, you know what its goal is then I take it?

Omal: we can neither confirm or deny that at this time.

Russ: okay and the next question then
naturally weíre going to get to is first off, tunnels and other chambers beneath the Sphinx that have been found.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: have we got an idea of what is under there currently with our science?

Omal: you or you or you as in us?

Russ: us.

Omal: us including myself?

Russ: no, as in Earth down here.

Omal: no idea whatsoever.

Russ: none whatsoever. Okay, now as far as you, as an entity from Ashtar Command?

Omal: we can neither confirm or deny that at this time.

Russ: well that figures. Okay, we will wish for a map. Letís go on the last part of this which is the combination of the Giza Plateau and its correlation with Cydonia on Mars.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and the similarities between the two.

Omal: you have not worked that out yet?

Russ: well weíre working on it which is what Iím talking with you about right now.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, on Cydonia we have a face that has a distinctive Sphinx like headdress. 1.6 miles long from the crown to chin. One and a half miles wide and 2,000 feet high okay? We have a D & M pyramid which is a five sided pyramid about 10 miles from the face on a north-south axis of the spin of the planet and itís 2Ĺ miles high.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: so what weíre looking at is something here very close and similar but on a larger scale.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: not only that, but we have what looks like to be a city that it is sited in such a way that it happens to have enjoyed a perfect, almost ceremonial view of the face.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, now what Iíve worked out personally and you probably canít confirm or deny.

Omal: that is correct.

Russ: is that this was a base set up prior to the arrival of the colonists from Sirius.

Omal: I can say one thing.

Russ: okay.

Omal: you are way off mark.

Russ: I am? Okay and can you mention whether or not it has to do with the ages that were talking about?

Omal: no I cannot.

Russ: okay.

Omal: okay, thank you.

Russ: thank you Omal.

Omal: live long, prosper and Iíll be back.

Russ: fair enough.




(Tia is back as ring mistress.)

Russ: hi Tia.

(Tia says hi in Durondedunn.)

Tia: must be getting close to the end.

Russ: oh no, we got lot's of tape, we just turned it over a few minutes ago.

Tia: time is going rather fast.

Russ: not that fast, no we got plenty of time, we got about a good 20 or 30 minutes left.

Tia: okay, would you care for a cup of tea?

Russ: sure, Iíll go start some up. All right when we discussed a couple years ago the correlation between Cydonia and the Giza Plateau, we did mention that the pyramid we did establish was not a Stargate between the two pyramids but instead was a communication device.

Tia: correct.

Russ: but due to the fact that the age of Cydonia and its evacuation or lack of population dates back millions of years instead of just thousands of years as is in the case the Giza Plateau that it must be that the two computers are talking to each other.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: but for what reason is the next phase of our question that weíve got to go to.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: and why would the Cydonia pyramid be collecting data from a pyramid here on earth? I mean check it out.........

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: the five sided pyramid on Cydonia is located on Mars at the same latitude as the one here at Giza.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: no coincidence is involved here okay? This is dead set reckoning and put there for a purpose.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: to make use of the planetaryís energy to power it.........what?

Tia: oh.

Russ: oh what?

Tia: I can neither confirm nor denyÖÖ..

Russ: oh come on, oh please Tia, your eyes lit up like a pair of saucer plates darling. Iíve seen dinner plates that werenít that big. What do you mean oh?

Tia: something just hit me and I thought it.

Russ: well obviously.

Tia: Omal picked up on it and he goes, ďwe can neither confirm nor deny that at this time. Ē And I go on the intimate mode, ďso Iím right?Ē And he goes, ďThe answer that you give is, we can neither confirm nor deny that at this time.Ē

Russ: okay, obviously we have hit upon something thatÖ...

Tia: no, you triggered me to think on something.

Russ: which means I have to trigger the same thing in myself.

Tia: uh-huh and I cannot tell you what it is.

Russ: of course not but weíve got the trigger. The trigger is half the battle.

Tia: before I go back to the apartment right? Iíve got to go with Omal, weíll go out the back door and I will go down and I will have it blocked off so that Mark canít get in there.

Russ: what blocked off?

Tia: what I just reasoned out.

Russ: (laughs)

Tia: so by the time he hears this tape, it will be blocked off. Otherwise heíll pick up on it. Mark is a lot smarter than you think he is.

Russ: hmm.

Tia: Mark is a lot smarter than he lets people think.

Russ: but can youÖ.? Nevermind, no you canít.

Tia: what? No I canít be cryptic about it.

Russ: no you canít, you can only block off the physical access to it, you can't block off the astral aspect to it.

Tia: no, they will build in a program that will stop me. I will know that I know the answer but I wonít be able to access it. Itís only a simpleÖ...

Russ: you mean block it off in you?

Tia: yes.

Russ: oh, I thought you meant the pyramid there on Mars.

Tia: no, that is for you guys to figure out. They will block it off in me right? Which means that I cannot tell Mark even though I know what the answer is right? He wonít be able to probe because he will just get the confusion that I will get if I try to say it.

Russ: now what I picked up there on the instant that I said it was itís a relay on Cydonia.......

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: to the pyramid on Sirius.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: which would make you click off because youíve been in the pyramid on Sirius.

Tia: uh-huh, but itís not, that I can tell you is that itís not a relay or that is not its primary function.

Russ: oh. Now we mentioned the fact that they were on the same latitudal line.

Tia: what you said had nothing to do with what was triggered. It was just the way that you said it triggered it in me.

Russ: hmm, doesn't matter. Okay well letís get on, weíre wasting tape.

Tia: yeah, now?, Ask.

Russ: ask what? Are we going to get on to the next person?

Tia: oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh I see, you don't want to talk to me.

Russ: well no, we were talking about........I mean if I go in on this, Iím just didnít get confirm or denies for the rest of the night.

Tia: true, true. But you donít want to talk to me, you only want to talk to your woman.

Russ: darling youíll be back, I have faith in that.





(Karra reviews a recent healing.)

Karra: hello.

Russ: hi Karra.

Karra: and how is it functioning?

Russ: well weíre having a hell of a night, I'll tell you that much.

Karra: yes, I have noticed.

Russ: trying to figure out thisÖ..

Karra: I will speak up.

Russ: okay yeah, weíre just trying to figure out whatís being triggered, whatís being worked on and how everything all correlates and fits together like this giant jigsaw puzzle that we're working on.

Karra: you ought to have seen her eyes.

Russ: I did see her eyes.

Karra: no those were Markís eyes you saw.

Russ: oh.

Karra: her eyes, her pupils went from yeah big to yeah big, pure, dark with just a hint of blue.

Russ: hmm, well her mind did work a little bit faster than mine does, it could take me a lot longer to figure this out I think.

Karra: I donít know what was triggered. She just suddenly, her mouth dropped wide open and her pupils went shoosh.

Russ: hmm, okay darling, now weíre working on mind merging.

Karra: uh-huh, yes we were. Apparently, according to Omal, we did very poorly.

Russ: oh today?

Karra: yes.

Russ: oh well, we've got to just work on it is all, practice, practice, practice you know? We can't get it overnight, we have to expend energy to get this stuff done.

Karra: oh yes I do know, it just surprises me that little sis did not tell me.

Russ: about what?

Karra: about his ability being that good.

Russ: hmm, well itís a lesson to be learned obviously.

Karra: yes for both of us.

Russ: uh-hmm.

Karra: Iím quite impressed.

Russ: well we came back I thought, we rallied in the second quarter pretty nicely.

Karra: yes after he got distracted sadly to say.

Russ: well still, good for us.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: point for our side there.

Karra: very sloppy on his part to get distracted but very fortunate for us.

Russ: well thatís just the old Maxxus and Naxxus coming back and forth. (From our time as brothers in Atlantis.)

Karra: if it was Maxxus and Naxxus, it wouldíve been an even match Iím sorry to say.

Russ: oh thatís fine, I agree. Now then, the next thing is the healing we did.

Karra: yes, yes.

Russ: now, is the pain I got in my neck a flashback or is that just an overdraw of energy? In other words, did I take too much in and not ground enough out or is a flashback ofÖ.

Karra: yes and a flashback from her.

Russ: flashback from her?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: so you were there, you saw the whole nine yards my neck's better now, but what happened how do we avoid that in the future?

Karra: well, you took her pain.

Russ: correct and grounded it out.

Karra: correct. You took her mental pain as well.

Russ: right.

Karra: and something that is flashing in her mind flashed back.

Russ: which is what?

Karra: think it, come on. I know people have been doing this a lot to you tonight in fact.

Russ: I know, I know. Itís good for me though eh?

Karra: yes.

Russ: yes well, okay so she was flashing on something, I would probably have to say me.

Karra: no.

Russ: no.

Karra: some recent event.

Russ: oh, recent event. Her being beaten up? (From a relationship she had been in.)

Karra: yes.

Russ: oh, so I took that from her?

Karra: no, you shared it.

Russ: shared it. Well, she had a lot of stress.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: you know. Okay so how doÖÖ.whatís a better way to do this in the future? I mean I thought it was a good work that we did and when we linked up on that to work with that, it was a very sound plan.

Karra: yes.

Russ: did we follow, the follow-through wasnít good?

Karra: well the prepping up wasnít good either. What did you forget to do that I always tell people to do?

Russ: rub my hands first?

Karra: well, running water works better.

Russ: well it was afterwards that I ran the water.

Karra: yes but the fact that they werenít clean to start off with.

Russ: oh yeah, hey thatís right.

Karra: how many times do I have to tell you, youíre not only when you go into surgery you have to scrub up?

Russ: hmm, good point. I forgot about that. Well part of the spur of the moment kind of thing. Iíll have to work on that from now on. Okay, where else did we go wrong?

Karra: okay, grounding.

Russ: all right well we set theÖÖokay I had it on her head.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: and had it send it through the back of her head through my thumbs to me.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: which took it to about my chest level, about my heart chakra more or less at which point I sent it down into the earth.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, now what was wrong with that?

Karra: well first of all, it was too slow and secondly the pathway. Come on Russ, it has to be bigger than that, make it big and comfortable.

Russ: okay so we bring it in. Now, what was wrong with the grounding part, anything? I know there was something wrong there.

Karra: yeah, I just said, you had a tiny little hole grounding right? Itís like when you pour water out of your sink, you have a small hole, what happens?

Russ: I get too much pressure.

Karra: and it takes a long time for it to drain.

Russ: right, right.

Karra: you have a bigger one, what happens?

Russ: it flows right out.

Karra: okay so, youíre holding in the energy right?

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: and itís going through such a tiny little hole, it takes time to drain out. Now if you donít finish the draining process right and you stop the healing, what happens?

Russ: it backs up.

Karra: exactly.

Russ: ahh. Well I took in all I could get, I mean I was hurting at that point.

Karra: uh-huh and you didnít listen to me did you?

Russ: I did too, I set up with the hands and everything the way you wanted it.

Karra: yes but I said, ďlet the opening be big

Russ: I didnít hear that part.

Karra: okay, you understand now.

Russ: yes I do, Iíll work on that the next time. Besides, I mean the problem she was having was a building problem, I don't think anything could of been done would have fixed the problem for dealing with her tooth. That was way out of control and itís been getting worse.

Karra: well you know why tooth is the problem.

Russ: yeah, it's all infected.

Karra: why?

Russ: the root blew out because somebody bothered to cap it without bothering to do a root canal first.

Karra: uh-huh. And what aggravated it was the fact that somebody went "phoot". This wouldíve happened but it wouldn't have been as bad if it hadnít been damaged. You know the thing that brought the infection in was the fact that after she had been hit, you notice that her upper lip was slightly swollen?

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: that is not from the infection, that is going down. Yeah her upper lip, this area directly under her nose is swollen from the infection. This part down here and along here is swollen for a different reason. If you watch, youíll see that this one here will get smaller and this one up here will get bigger.

Russ: odds are itís not a good idea to bring it up though.

Karra: no itís not but the fact is that the tooth was damaged and when she checked the damage herself with her fingers running it up and inside and everything and the fact that there was blood meant that there was no moisture which did what?

Russ: it got infected. Hmm, I need to get better at my far sight where I can look into somebodyís problems like that.

Karra: thatís not far sighting.

Russ: what is that?

Karra: that isÖ..

Russ: near sighting?

Karra: no. That is linking with them.

Russ: okay how do I get better at that? Because as a healer, I mean that could be a crucial part.

Karra: itís practice, itís practice. Making people at ease and make somebody at ease. How do I heal?

Russ: you just smile at them, say a few kind words and theyíre just instantly better.

Karra: it takes more than that.

Russ: not much more. I know, you use energy and youÖ.

Karra: I use kindness.

Russ: Iíve seen it.

Karra: nice, soothing words. I make them relax, I make them laugh, I make them smile.

Russ: see, thatís what I said.

Karra: I do all these things before I even start to heal them.

Russ: right.

Karra: because by doing all these things, that opens them up to the healing process.

Russ: hmm, well.

Karra: please...okay, any more questions?

Russ: no darling, you got me enough stuff to work on for days.

Karra: okay.

Russ: of course thanks again for your help with the editorial.

Karra: oh thank you.

Russ: I thought it came out really good.

Karra: yes I think Markís idea was a good one though.

Russ: what, putting the whole Shakespeare thing in?

Karra: yes, not how I wouldíve worded it but looking back on it retrospectively, it is more useful and it sounds better.

Russ: yeah, I agree.




(Tia comes back to wrap up the session.)

Russ: hey Tia.

(Tia says hi in Durondedunn.)

Russ: okay, who else is on tonight?

Tia: youíre looking at her.

Russ: thatís it?

Tia: thatís it, I tried to get Korton but Korton is busy, I tried to get Lyka, sheís busy organizing gate duties. I tried to get Taal, Taal is busy in combat training.

Russ: all right darling, letís go over the news sweetheart.

Tia: I tried to get Nazreal, Nazrealís busy.

Russ: that wouldíve been nice.

Tia: I tried to get Teene but Teene has lost her voice.

Russ: poor girl.

Tia: I tried to get Treene, Treene is having a night of passion that sheís planned for quite a while.

Russ: all right, well letís go over the news.

Tia: okay, what do you want to know?

Russ: well the stuff youíve gathered up and saved for me here.

Tia: okay weíve had the crŤche parents of the super operantís miscarry.

Russ: I donít want to put that in, thatís iffy news.

Tia: we have a track meet.

Russ: oh thatís good news.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: another one?

Tia: no, just a friendly track meet.

Russ: oh.

Tia: inter-section right? And we went and watched and our defense force with Lyka, Lykaís team won. Iím not quite sure who won, I donít think they had anybody actually win, itís just that they clinched. I think it was like firstÖ..second through sixth which meant that they were overall winners.

Russ: who were they up against?

Tia: they were up against pilots and some technicians and some service personnel.

Russ: against the defense force?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: that would be a walk away.

Tia: well a pilot picked up first place, he is from C squadron. I think the best way to call him, his nickname would be something like flower man. Okay, weíve had a massive dump in the Wookie compound. (The snowy mountain side of the base.)

Russ: hmm.

Tia: also whatís going on? There is a birthday party going to be in the Cubs crŤche.

Russ: wait a minute.....Wookie compound.....okay and then a big birthday party?

Tia: uh-huh, not for the Cubs.

Russ: not for the Cubs?

Tia: not for the Cubs, itís a birthday party for one of the crŤche girls, she is going be three years old.

Russ: got a name for her?

Tia: oh, Teena.

Russ: Teenah.

Tia: no not Teenah, Teena. Tee-Na.

Russ: so T.E.E.N.A?

Tia: something like that. Okay, one of my technicians isÖ.not one of my technicians one of my analysts is out of work at the moment due to the fact that he broke his arm.

Russ: bummer.

Tia: yeah fell whilst rock climbing.

Russ: why was he doing rock climbing?

Tia: well why not? Because itís there.

Russ: major storm going on and heís rock climbing.

Tia: different place.

Russ: oh.

Tia: we also have coming up a big Salmon Festival. Itís an excuse for lots of people to get together, get drunk andÖ..

Russ: reduce the salmon population a little bit.

Tia: or attempt to.

Russ: attempt to.

Tia: uh-huh. Ahh what else? Teela is dying her hair again.

Russ: what color?

Tia: well she wants it green.

Russ: well that will make for a striking color.

Tia: uh-huh, pale green.

Russ: when is the Salmon Festival?

Tia: Salmon Festival? Itís this would be your weekend.

Russ: this weekend?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: and whenís the birthday party?

Tia: I believe that is Friday.

Russ: Friday okay.

Tia: uh-huh. Also whatís happening? Oh Treene beat her mother in straight sets in racquetball. 6-0, 6-0, 6-0.

Russ: someoneís in better shape than someone else.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: Treene beat Teene.

Tia: yes, Treene beat Teene okay. We have new cadets training for our ground control.

Russ: oh yeah, letís work on that.

Tia: I donít know what they're up, all's I know is thereís a new class.

Russ: no, no. I mean the new ships coming in.

Tia: oh the new ships?

Russ: yeah.

Tia: uh-huh, well we have 24 of the older craft coming in right? But we only have 12 of the newer models.

Russ: so 36 altogether?

Tia: well 36 of the level that we have and then 12 of the older class.

Russ: huh? You said 24 of the older version and 12 of the newer class.

Tia: yes but the 12 that are coming into the newer class are going to replace 12 of the older class.

Russ: oh I see.

Tia: how about a cup of tea? Weíll save it for Mark when he gets back.

Russ: okay, what else you got?

Tia: thatís about it.

Russ: thatís all the news? Thatís a lot anyway.

Tia: yeah thatís a lot apart from Pegasus is a dad again, we're going to snip him soon. (A cat at Tia, Kiriís and Marks apartment on the base.)

Russ: shouldíve snipped him a while back man.

Tia: well heís had about eight litters.

Russ: well I know that, thatís what I mean, heís a little due isnít he?

Tia: yeah, I should say heís more than a little due but I canít do that.

Russ: whoís the expectant mom?

Tia: oh one of the cats from the other end of the base.

Russ: little guy gets around huh?

Tia: uh-huh, oh boy does he get around. Uh-huh, I mean heís all over the place. I mean, I think he can smell.....

Russ: he used to be a kitten when I first got up there. When I first went up there, he was a kitten, he didnít even have balls yet. What happened to him man? He turned into King Kong of stud city or something?

Tia: no, heís learned how to be ferocious.

Russ: I guess, he was a timid little thing at first.

Tia: heís grown.

Russ: (yawns) that's true.

Tia: anyway tapeís almost over.

Russ: yeah, couple of minutes. So you going to get that block eh?

Tia: yeah.

Russ: well that's good, no reason why we should know it prematurely. Is it going to help you in your research or anything or in your calculations?

Tia: I canít confirm or deny that at this time.

Russ: all right, just wanted to know if I've managed to assist you in anyway.

Tia: I canít confirm or deny that at this time.

Russ: whatever.

Tia: I would answer differently but I do have somebody hovering over me.

Russ: just doing something to help you out, it's all right.

Tia: hey itís notÖ

 
THE TAPE ENDS


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