(Tia starts things
Tia: how are you doing?
Russ: ah, quite well.
Tia: uh-huh. Town meeting, oh
interesting, interesting, interesting.
Russ: yeah, I missed that one.
Tia: didn't miss much.
Russ: I didn't think so.
Tia: no. Debate on politics, sports
and what sports can offer as an example.
Russ: oh, interesting subject.
Tia: uh-huh, absolutely nothing to do
with real life.
Russ: well, it's inspiring isn't it?
Russ: ahhh inspiration is good for the
Tia: so okay, are you going to
say.......well I'm going to say told you so, told
you so and you didn't believe me, 9,000?
Tia: 9,100 and....
Russ: well I believed you.
Tia: you just didn't think it would be
Tia: and what did I say?
Russ: well you said it would hit it.
Russ: well 10,000 in a week who knows.
Tia: who knows, who cares, who knows,
who knows, who cares, who knows.....I'm just blasť
about the whole entire thing. It's a stock market
out of control and why?
Russ: well people are making millions
Tia: oh yeah, they're going to lose
(Talks to one of the house cats.)
Tia: okay, what are we going to talk
Russ: ahh, astral projection.
Tia: okay, it brings up a nice little
problem doesn't it?
Russ: with (Ed. notes:
Name has been edited out.)?
Tia: it's important that she starts to
get coaching and lessons. Because.....
Russ: she has to want coaching and
Tia: uh-huh, she has to want first of
all and she's going to run into some problems
otherwise. You want to know why?
Tia: because A, she can't shield, she
read through that thing briefly and didn't
understand it, B, she's going to try for the
simple reason that Mark made a slight goof in his
Russ: what did he say?
Tia: he said "most people, couple
hundred miles is nice but that's a walk in the park
for me." She is going to want to do better. She's
that kind of person isn't she?
Tia: that's going to cause problems.
Tia: it's an honest mistake. He just
wanted to state that there is the levels and the
fact that he is good and a good teacher and he is a
good teacher, it's just that he made....didn't
estimate her properly. She's a good girl and that's
Russ: she's an over achiever I suppose
in certain areas.
Tia: she's a good girl. Do you know
what I mean by that?
Tia: she's not an adult.
Tia: she is still a little girl. Which
brings me up to some interesting things but let's
get back to your questions on astral travel.
Russ: okay, astral travel. Now Mark
mentioned earlier about him going into his mind.
Russ: now is that one point of his
astral travel ability that he uses?
Tia: yeah, it's kind of retreating
within himself to analyze things. Shuts down
basically all external input.
Russ: now how's he shut down the
Tia: basically he goes into a state
which is near to astral travel or his level of
astral travel.......it's kind of like meditation you
Tia: and it's a great way of looking
within yourself and analyzing things. I do it, I do
it in a different way.
Russ: what do you do?
Tia: basically what I do is I go
outside, check myself and then I retreat within. He
just goes from where he is deeper and deeper inside. What I do is I check to make sure
everything is safe for me and then I retreat within
myself, going deeper within my body. That's in
essence is very similar to what Mark does apart from
he just goes....pulls himself in and in and in and
tends to either sit or lie very still.
Russ: and then how do you go out?
Tia: out? How do you mean?
Russ: you're inside and then you have
to go outside again?
Tia: no, I just come back up like an
escalator.....uhh elevator. I just go back through
and I check everything as I come back up and I'm
back to being bubbly and cheerful.
Russ: so it's a little matter of being
serious at first.
Tia: yes, it's not joking around or
Tia: it's a state of mind. It's very,
very easy to do and quite a lot of people do it
without realizing but to do it properly, to be able
to go within and deep think without any external
input, to be alone in a crowded room where all the
noise is suddenly gone and you're sitting in the
crowded room but you're not there. You're deep, deep
Russ: that's probably why I have so
much troubles, I don't go within myself........
Russ: I try to go outside myself.
Russ: so I'm not shutting everything
Tia: yeah. It's kind of like being in
a big house right?
Tia: and you wander outside, you
wander around the house and everything's fine and
dandy and then you go inside the house and you close
the door and then you go up to your room and you
close the door and then you get into the bed and
pull the bedclothes over you and lay down and close
your eyes. But you see what's happening in that
Tia: you closed the front door, you
close the door to your bedroom, you close yourself
off with the bedclothes over you, you close your
Russ: yeah, it's like going to sleep
but you're not actually going to sleep.
Tia: that's right and the doors are
signifying closing things, going each level
within yourself. Okay you're now in an enclosed
house when you close the front door right?
Tia: you go up the stairs into your
room, you close the door, you're within an enclosed
room. You pull the bedclothes over you, you're now
enclosed in your bed and then you close your eyes
and you're enclosed within your mind.
Russ: well that's a good little astral
travel tip, probably add in the "how to".
Tia: uh-huh. But that's kind of going
Russ: well that's a good idea.
Tia: yeah. Going into a deeper state
of meditation instead of sitting there and doing
what yogi says......the yogi's say. Take so many
deep breaths, so many shallow breaths, hum. Go
"hmmmmmmmmmmm." Create that resonance in the
cavities in your skull. Hmmmmmmmmm............nope,
doesn't work for me, never brought up that way.
Russ: well yeah, different culture.
Russ: oh good, gives me
something to work on really.
Tia: uh-huh but getting back to the
seed that is sown. Both of you have sown two very
different types of seeds in her. Within her mind are
two seeds that need to germinate, they need
watering, they need to be nurtured. Otherwise she
will experiment and more than likely get into some
trouble, get out of the trouble and get scared by
Russ: well I'll give her a call and
see what's up.
Tia: uh-huh. Yes?
Russ: well that was basically it.
Tia: oh okay. Hmmm yes, okay well
that's just about covered that. What we could
probably do is.......you'll be around next week?
Russ: I'll be leaving Tuesday, Tuesday
morning, 4:30 in the morning.
Tia: okay, well that will give me
plenty of time to work up and then will you
be back when?
Russ: 10 days later which would put me
back on probably Friday night.
Tia: okay so that gives me a good 14
days to sit down and come up with a how to astral
travel tailor-made. Okay well I better put on the
(Says goodbye in Durondedunn.)
(Omal becomes the next speaker of
Omal: greetings and felicitations Russ
and how are you functioning?
Russ: greetings Omal, quite well.
Omal: good, good, good.
Russ: and yourself?
am functioning very well.
Omal: okay I will be brief due to the
fact that I do have a meeting.
Omal: let me rotate the body so I can
talk to you easier as this is of course Kiri's
portable unit which is much more superior than....
(A device Kiri built that generates channeling
Russ: so, Mark poured you some orange
Omal: yes so I hear. Thank you.
Russ: pleasure Sir.
Russ: well, I'm in a respectful mood
Omal: ahhh, respectful indeed. Okay,
let us address things. Okay you have questions.
Russ: indeed. A lot of questions are
based on preparedness.
Russ: and getting consciously and
mentally prepared for the changes that are happening
is part of our editorial we're doing....we did with
the latest edition of the News.
Russ: and so to go along with that,
I'd like to get some other stuff to go along with
that. We compared our current time to being as on
Russ: in which right now is like the
boarding area. We're on board.....
Omal: talking of which.
Omal: let us........and you will have
to keep a note of the time, have a moment of
Russ: this is the time when the
Titanic went down.
Omal: and it is going down or would be
going down right now, in
fact it would be broken in half with its end up
going down right now. So let us have a few moments
of silence, let us say about 30 seconds.
Omal: okay so if you can keep an eye
on the time.
(30 seconds of silence follows.)
Russ: now there is a reason you did
Russ: besides the fact that it's
merely a point in history that we're observing but
there is also an emotional tie that affects myself
and probably Mark to that particular point in time.
Omal: more than you know with Mark.
Russ: ahhh, well I'm sure you can't
explain the one with Mark to me.
Omal: okay, I will endeavor to do so..
Russ: oh, okay.
Omal: a young man that has a drink
problem, that hates Sopwith Camels was a very self-loathing
person. The reason that he was self-loathing
was because of his drink. Why did he have a drink
problem? Remember, when he died, he was probably no
more than 21 or 22 years old.
Omal: correct. Go back six years, what
happened six years prior to his death?
Russ: Titanic went down.
Omal: now why would he have such a
connection with it?
Russ: well let's see.
Omal: English history, what kind of
person at that time flew aircraft?
Russ: the more well-to-do.
Omal: correct. And the more well-to-do
at that time did what with their children?
Russ: ran them through school, good
Omal: good schools, boarding schools.
Omal: doing a simple bit of deductive
reasoning and from what Tia is saying about Mark and
the problems he has with the Titanic the movie, or
any movie to do with the Titanic, makes me believe
that his parents or at least one of his parents
perished on the boat.
(From his last past life.)
Russ: so if possibly both parents are
on, perhaps his mother would've been saved on it...
Russ: while his father would've
Russ: I doubt that they would've been
traveling in the lower decks in third class where
much.....the main number of people died.
Omal: probably somewhere in the
middle. But the moment of silence was not only for
those that perished, it was for the start and end of
a piece of history. The Victorian era of great
industrial growth came to the end with the Titanic.
People's belief in their invincibility, people's
belief in their growth that they had achieved the
ultimate pinnacle and the Olympia and the Titanic
were examples of this pinnacle of engineering when
in actual fact they were not. The Titanic supposedly
was meant to be a lifeboat in itself with its
bulkheads that were self-sealing. With a
flick of a switch they could be turned on or off. So
they did not need in their opinion as many
Russ: no, no, no, no, no, no,
no.......you will drop that orange juice all over
the floor.....there you go. I saw the Titanic in its
own little self going. (Chuckles.)
Omal: now those comments of yours, no,
no, no, no, no, no, let
us look at them in the context of the conversation.
The Titanic and the glass, the glass being the
vessel, being the metaphor for the Titanic. This
piece of silica and various other compounds being
invincible and my belief that I was putting it on
something correct whilst talking to you instead of
looking down. Okay, the belief that I had, that I
was doing the right thing whilst talking to you and
having total confidence in all this technological
equipment around me to help me, to help me put it
down without causing any problems is very much like
the belief that the people had for the Titanic. And
it was a symptom not only of a small group of
individuals but the whole entire Western world and
its technological advances that it had made. The
ending was the belief in that. Now it carried on
over for the next six years and basically at the end
of the first world war of your planet, it was gone.
But a common misconception about the Titanic is that
it was the worst disaster at the time, that is
incorrect. About a year and a half to two years
prior, a ship had gone down with almost 2,000 people
that were killed on board. But they were not
prominent people, they were not the owners of great
industrial businesses. They were not people of such
well-known characteristics such as Miss Molly Brown.
They were just mere immigrants wishing for a new
start but but being at the end of an old style. The
growth that they went through in the waiting period
of understanding and being prepared to come back as
better people having been through what they had been
through and the people of the Titanic that went
through the same problem is very important to
understand. With that period in time, there
was the Lusitania, the Mauritania, the Olympus, the
Titanic, all these beautiful, powerful ships all
destined to become famous in one way or another. The
Olympus, the sister ship to the Titanic, the Titanic
itself, the Mauritania, the Lusitania, all destined
to play an important part in history. What part does
play in history?
Russ: well, the Lusitania was the ship
that was supposedly sunk by a mine but at the time
it was vehemently denied that it was a mine that
Omal: you are inaccurate.
Omal: it was a torpedo.
Russ: ahhh, but the Germans denied all
Russ: and through
further proof, it was found that it was a
correct. It was also denied by the British that it
was carrying weapons.
Omal: it was. But it played an
important part in history, it
was also the ending of an era like the Titanic, it
was the end. By 1918, all that old invincibility
that had come along with the pinnacle of the Titanic
was all gone, all history. Now the slate was set for
even more technological advances.
Russ: yeah, after the first World War
everything just took a major jump exponentially.
Omal: correct. So was it a pinnacle
that had been achieved? No, there
were bigger and better ships to come. The Queen
Mary, the Queen Elizabeth, the Queen Elizabeth two,
the Graff Zeppelin, the R101,
another disaster. The Hindenburg, another disaster.
All these transportation's were thought
of at the time as being the ultimate pinnacle of
their technology. Each one was realized to be a
stepping stone to the next one in the particular
design fields that they were in. Having been found
that some of them were failing, they were put to one
side, discarded, rejected, dismantled or still
sailing, still flying. So, having looked at each
level of achievement as being the pinnacle, you must
look ahead and see what transpires from those
pinnacles. They're not pinnacles, they're just mere
steps. A step onward, a step upward, a step to
Omal: let us look at technology. The
pinnacle of technology ten years ago is
sitting upstairs. The pinnacle of technology that is
readily available for every man is sitting in your
office. The pinnacle of technology that is available
to the extremely wealthy, they're just mere steps
but in their historical places, they are very
important. The computer that sits upstairs, ten
years ago you could get no better. The fact that
it's been augmented and changed and makes it very
competitive even with the computers of today tells
you how good it was. Was is the correct phrase,
is passed. The important thing to remember is that
with technology, whether it is of avionics, ocean
going or space going, at its time it is the most
technologically advanced there is for its time and
for a time. Now do you have questions?
Russ: yeah, one thing concerning the
Titanic and myself. As I recall, I wasn't incarnate
at the time.
Russ: but I was advising a certain
person who was incarnate at the time.
(Omal had told me it was Nicoli Tesla between lives
in a previous session.)
Russ: and so I was looking at it from
a rather higher dimensional point theoretically.
Omal: no, no. You were
looking at it from a different spiritual point.
Russ: ah, higher dimensional would be
an actual transformation to that dimension.
Omal: a different spiritual plane.
Russ: but wouldn't I have access to a
higher dimensional informational source, the Akashic
Records at that point?
Omal: the Akashic Records of a third
dimensional existence, not a fifth, sixth, seventh.
Russ: oh that's a misconception on my
own part then.
Russ: ahh. Okay, and so from that
point, that gives me kind of an insight into the
channelings that we receive.
Russ: because a certain gentlemen who
I started listening to channeling first.......
Omal: Mr. Ryerson. (Kevin Ryerson.)
Russ: yes, thank you. Channels in
third dimensional entities who have Akashic Record
knowledge of third dimensional sources.
Russ: but not higher dimensional
Omal: correct. If they claim to have
so, then they are mistaken.
Russ: no, they do not.
Omal: correct. They merely claim to be
dis-incarnate individuals who have a knowledge of
Akashic Records or have access to them.
Russ: so that puts a perspective onto
our own channelings that we are receiving here.
Omal: see when Kiri accesses or Karra
accesses higher dimensional, they can also see lower
Russ: I see.
Omal: they access the sixth
dimensional Akashic Records.
Russ: but they can't access the
Omal: however, there is a little quirk
Omal: when you have a higher again
dimensional being inhabiting a lower dimensional
being's body such as Leonedies.
Omal: he has access to the eighth, the
seventh, the sixth, the third and so on.
Russ: uh-huh, interesting. Now that
gives him a little bit more advantage over most
sixth dimensional beings.
Russ: but why? Why would having access
to eighth dimensional Akashic Records be any
different from having Akashic Records from sixth or
conversely, having from let's say sixth to third?
What is the advantages there?
Omal: because.......let us say you are
Omal: okay, and you can access your
sixth dimensional Akashic Records.
Omal: okay, you are involved in a
project let us say working for a computer company.
Russ: all right.
Omal: you see how to build a sixth
Omal: you build that sixth dimensional
computer, it works. Of course it's going to work.
have you just done?
Russ: you cheated.
Omal: seriously cheated. Not only have
you cheated, you've looked at the rule book and
Russ: I see.
Omal: you are not learning how to deal
with the third dimensional limitations.
Omal: you're basically going way
outside and using those technologies. Now following
along the logical conclusion, you are third
dimensional person with sixth dimensional memories.
Omal: you have sixth dimensional
whims. You have built this computer that runs at
about 10,000 MHz, possibly even higher, I do not
know. You have built it with unlimited holographic
memory, you have built it with no need for RAM, you
have built it in such a way that it will read and
write any configuration of system that can be
thought of on your planet. You turn around and sell
it, sell the rights to build it or you build it
yourself and find that because the technology is so
easy to work with that you can mass-produce it very
cheap. You sell the computers that you manufacture.
You have basically a laptop, much like the one over
there, that has the power of almost a thousand of
the fastest computers on your planet. What have you
done? Besides making yourself very wealthy.
Russ: you've interfered with the
natural progression of the third dimension........of
the third dimensional planet you inhabit.
Omal: correct and you have possibly
put them on a pathway that they were not destined to
Russ: right, if it has military
applications that would be used in a way that we'd
be a just a burning cinder of rock in the middle of
the universe or the far end of it.....small tail of
Russ: galaxy. Now here's
a question for you then, let's call it my last
question since I know you have a meeting to go
Omal: thank you.
Russ: Hades Base is made
up of individuals from multi-dimensions working
together in a single space.
Russ: now, the individuals from a
higher dimension, yourself included......
Russ: have these memories available
that you can draw upon to increase the technological
abilities around you........
Russ: and yet you also have around you
many individuals of a lower dimensional selves.
Russ: so therefore, how are you able
to use the knowledge you have and yet not interfere
with those sixth dimensional beings that you work
Omal: it is very, very simple. I do
not tell them anything that they do not need to
know. If I think or slightly hesitate that I should
tell somebody something, then I do not tell them.
The hesitation is doubt. If I have a little bit of
doubt that the information that I'm about to give is
wrong and I hesitate in my voice and I think to
myself, "hmm, okay let's.." No at
that point, I will not say it because the hesitation
is a warning for me, also training does help. But
knowing what they understand as being the pinnacle
of technology and what I understand as being the
pinnacle of technology is two different things. You
Russ: uh-huh, yes in fact that's a
good model we can use for down here someday
Omal: hopefully yes.
Russ: thank you Omal.
Omal: strange place to put this, there
must be a reason for it.
Russ: I'm sure there is, probably a
Omal: yes, I think it has something to
do with the young lady that has just come through
(In Mark, Tia's and Kiri's apartment.)
Russ: well that would explain that.
Omal: farewell. Live long, prosper and
I'll be back.
(Tia returns to her ringmistress duties.)
Tia: (says hi in Durondedunn.)
Russ: hi Tia.
Russ: how's it going?
Tia: it's going good.
Tia: how much?
Russ: well looks like about, we can't
really tell because it's a really dark tape we're
working with tonight. Hard to tell.
Tia: ahh, okay hard to tell. Okay.
(She says goodbye in Durondedunn.)
(Karra sits down in the
Russ: hello my love.
Karra: it is funny, mother gets up,
daughter jumps on the futon.
Russ: that would explain the last
Karra: uh-huh, yes it would. Waiting
in ambush, three pairs of eyes. It must be very
close to their bedtime.
(The Cubs, Tia and Mark's children.)
Russ: it would have to be.
Karra: what time is it?
Russ: 9:53 down here.
Karra: so it is 7:53 up here.
Karra: so they must be almost ready
for bed. By the looks of them they were.
Russ: well they're getting older, they
want to stay up later.
Karra: yes, perfectly normal. Playing
hide and go seek I believe. Okay....
Russ: that was an excellent section
Karra: yes, Omal did go into details.
Russ: uh-huh, quite well.
Russ: and yourself my love, how you
Karra: I'm doing fine, I'm doing fine.
Russ: good to hear.
Karra: uh-huh, been spending time with
my daughter and granddaughter.
(Alana and Miranda.)
Karra: yes she's almost ready to go
back to work.
Russ: and how are mother and daughter
Karra: they're doing fine, they're
Russ: a difficult pregnancy?
Karra: not really.
Russ: that's good.
Karra: just little bit long on the
delivery but that's to be expected. The child is
perfectly normal for a sixth dimensional child,
nothing special but everything is
Russ: which brings up the next point.
Russ: inward astral projection and I
see now possibly where a lot of problems might have
Russ: it's not going inward, but going
outward. By doing so, that leaves open a lot of
different sensory activities that we should ignore
but normally shut down for successful astral travel.
Karra: the question is, why did he
leave them out?
Russ: I don't know, I don't know. It's
the first time I've ever heard of this until now.
Karra: it's possible that he didn't
even think of them, that he does them.......if
you remember what is his comment about his astral
Russ: it'd have to be that.
Karra: it's all automatic.
Karra: and if you remember, he had a
hard time trying to lay out a teaching program.
Russ: yeah because he didn't even
realize what he's doing.
Russ: but tonight we got good insight
Russ: something I can definitely use
at this point then because I......one of the things
I noticed about astral travelers they do go inward
quite a bit.
Karra: uh-huh. Maybe you should ask
him about it, going within, what he meant by that.
Karra: because wouldn't it be logical
to.......yes you're right it would be logical for
that to be a step, part of it.......
Karra: meditating within yourself
before you go out.
Russ: absolutely. Because then you're
not concentrating on your surroundings outside
yourself, you're blocking those out and you're
shutting them down.
Karra: I would assume so, you've got
to remember how feeble my astral travel ability is.
Russ: true, true. It still does make
Russ: so gotta find the little keys
here and there.
Russ: ah excellent. And then how is
the ambassadorship going lately my love?
Karra: busy, that's why I'm a little
Russ: tired huh?
Karra: okay now, I've got to
come up with a topic here quickly........healing.
Karra: healing from loss, whether it
is a physical loss, a mental loss or a spiritual
loss. Let us look at physical loss, the loss of a
loved one and how the healing from that can heal so
many other things.
Russ: how are you doing?
Karra: I'm having difficulty thinking
up good thoughts, I've been dealing with
ambassadorial duties all day as you know and your
frustration doesn't help.
Russ: well my headache probably
doesn't help, that wouldn't be your headache would
Karra: could be.
Russ: could be?
Russ: we're sharing a headache.
Karra: it could be both actually and
what makes it even more uncomfortable is the fact
that we got headaches for different reasons. Okay
let us address headaches. Okay, headaches are caused
by numerous reasons. Normally by failing to eat
properly, stress or trauma. Most headaches are
caused by failure to eat correctly or stress. The
ones by trauma are on a totally
different category and we will not bother with them
because they are different. Stress and nutritional
headaches serve a purpose of making
us rest, taking time out from our problems,
able to deal with the problems at a different time.
It is like the pumping of iron when our muscles get
tired and the thing is that headaches serve that
purpose to stop us from overexerting ourselves and
doing serious damage. It's a little bit like the
negative feedback loop and the headaches created by
Karra: it is the expanding and growing
of the mental faculties, using parts of the brain
that haven't been used before, giving them a workout
or that they haven't been pushed that far before.
Now dealing with learning new things can be a
stressful experience. It can also be a tiring
experience and I find, I don't know about you hon,
but I find that when I am deep in thought, learning
something new, doing something new, something that
is stressful, I forget to eat. So headaches of the
mental kind and the nutritional kind can be linked.
So how do we stop getting those headaches? Well, a
snack might help and taking a snack
serves two purposes, it takes us away from what
we're doing, gives us an opportunity to be away from
our work unless of course you happen to be somebody
like me that has lunch or breakfast at my desk.
Maybe I should have breakfast in the breakfast room.
Russ: or on the patio.
Karra: hmmm that would be nice and
lunch also on the patio or in the breakfast room.
Russ: I think it would be a good break
for you to get out in the fresh air.
Karra: yes, think it would be. Listen
Russ: well I did that today though.
Karra: and you still ended up with a
Russ: yeah well but I had no choice in
the matter because I'm working at my desk too. I
went out to go get food though......
Russ: and took a break for a
Russ: I ate well.
Karra: but whilst you were out getting
your lunch, what were you doing?
Russ: well I was thinking about work.
SIDE ONE ENDS
continues on side two.)
Russ: right, well we need to both of
us pay more attention to the causes of our headaches
and use them as warning signs that we need to break
off what we're doing mentally and physically.......
Russ: and relax.
Karra: uh-huh. And one of us must try
not to get a headache whilst the other has a
Russ: that's a good idea.
Russ: or at least try to heal the
other person at the same time.
Russ: I'll work on you, you work on
me, we should be able to get this all figured out.
Karra: that sounds like a good idea.
Okay we have I believe two more speakers, maybe
Russ: oh good.
Karra: okay so I will hop off.
Russ: okay my love, headaches and all
well we'll get back to later on.
Karra: uh-huh yeah, we will address
that when you come up.
Russ: well we've got jet lag to work
Karra: uh-huh. I could give you some
interesting dimensional lag tips.
Russ: well whatever we can do to work
on the jet lag will probably help a lot.
Karra: fresh fruit.
Russ: good idea.
Russ: I'll have to remember that one.
Karra: mineral drinks.
Russ: mineral water?
Karra: probably calcium, calcium
Russ: hmmm, milk.
Karra: uh-huh. Okay, that's the
protein side dealt with.
Russ: okay my sweetheart.
Karra: okay, and you know preparation,
adjusting your body's time clock and everything.
Russ: right, working on that.
Karra: uh-huh. See you.
Russ: have a great time love, see you
Karra: love you, love you.
(Tia returns between speakers.)
Tia: (says hi in Durondedunn.)
Russ: hi Tia.
Tia: okay, next speaker.
(Lyka explodes into the
Russ: yo Lyka, how's it going?
Lyka: it's going good, what's this?
Russ: good to see you back here
Lyka: it is, good to be back. Only for
a few more days, 30 days I believe. Ahh, 15 days.
Russ: still, congratulations on your
(The Tri-Base Ski Championship.)
Lyka: oh thank you. Yes, I am the
champion, I am the champion.
Russ: excellent job on your part dear.
Russ: kept our side up and did real
Lyka: yeah, three years in a row, I'm
going for four. I want to be the ultimate, I will
retire when I have got four gold in a row.
Russ: you should get five.
Lyka: don't want to be greedy.
Russ: don't want it to end on an even
Russ: five would be very un-catchable.
Lyka: go on, go and get yours.
Russ: all right love. And didn't you
just get back from a long trip?
(Gets a fencing sword out from where it was kept.)
Lyka: it was only a month.
Russ: I know, but didn't you make it a
long spaceflight to get here?
Lyka: no, I've been on base 14 days
Russ: how did you deal with jet lag or
space lag as it is?
Lyka: I'm getting used to it.
Russ: yeah? Can you stand or get on
your knees? Epee or foil?
Lyka: just eppe, I'm going to give you
a quick lesson.
(A lesson in sword fighting commences and has been edited
Lyka: good. That's enough, okay.
Russ: very good.
Lyka: thank you.
Russ: thank you. Very good lesson.
Lyka: okay, now what did you learn
Russ: less movement, more, more.......
Lyka: blade control.
Russ: blade control. Well the trick
is, it's no good to get a point on your other
opponent.....sorry about that.
Lyka: why are you apologizing to me?
Russ: you're right, Mark's going to
feel it. Anyway, it's......he brought the sword
Lyka: I asked him to.
Russ: well then he asked for it.
Lyka: well put it this way, I said, I
won't channel unless you bring the sword down.
Russ: ahh, well that kept things at a
more even pace then.
Russ: but it's no good to get a point
on your opponent if if they're getting a point on
you at the same time.
Lyka: that correct.
Russ: I mean it's just basically a
null waste of energy.
Lyka: uh-huh also, what was taught up
Lyka: you fell for some tricks.
Lyka: you went for the point when
there was no way that you were going to get the
point. For example, when I crossed under your blade,
I went like that.....your blade went that way and I
came back up that way. Or when I went this way, your
blade went that way and I went that way. So you see?
Don't be deceived by tricks.
Russ: well it's easy to be deceived by
tricks, you're expecting one thing.....
Russ: and if you just lead them into
believing that you'll still go that way......
Russ: the trick works.
Lyka: of course.
Russ: well, it's a good practice
study, I need to work on that a bit more.
Lyka: uh-huh.. Speed, what was the hit
ratio? About three to one?
Lyka: okay, speed. How much faster was
Russ: much faster.
Lyka: about three times faster and
I wasn't even cracking up a sweat.
Russ: just warming up.
Lyka: okay targeting.
Russ: me and eppe aren't very good
though, I'm still learning that part of the whole
sword play. I'm much better at the foil side of it.
Lyka: targeting, targeting is very
important. You were going for here right? Until I
said fish, fish for the arm. You were going for the
body. Where were the majority of my hits?
Russ: on my arm.
Lyka: uh-huh why?
Russ: because you were eppe.
Lyka: uh-huh. Because that's the
easiest part to reach for.
Lyka: if I was going for your left
side of your body right? I've got to reach further
and what am I doing?
Russ: exposing yourself.
Lyka: that's right. Now, exposing
oneself, exposing to danger,
is the purpose of fortifications?
Russ: to keep yourself from being
exposed to danger.
Lyka: good. How do you make them?
Russ: by building up a element of
defense that forces your attacker into working to
Lyka: no, it forces your attacker into
exposed positions. Uh-huh, and that is a side
product, forcing them to work. You want to do
minimum amount of work. When I was fencing, how much
work was Mark's body doing?
Russ: very little.
Lyka: okay, whereas your body.
Russ: was doing more.
Lyka: correct, back to defense work,
defense is the key to survival. If you force your
opponents to make themselves work harder, to be
visible, to cut down on where they can hide
increases your chances of what?
Lyka: correct, survivability. If
you're in a strong fortified position, it's no good
to go charging out and engage the enemy because you
are now on an even playing field, on an even
battlefield. So, what must you do?
Russ: maintain your position unless
it's absolutely necessary to go out.
Russ: and if it is necessary to go
out, make sure your enemy is no longer there.
Lyka: or, you have superior equipment
or odds or better tactics or better suited for the
terrain. Why am I bringing these things up?
Russ: prepare for preparation for the
Lyka: good and why do I sound like an
Russ: because you are an officer.
Lyka: good. Command qualities.
Lyka: being able to explain clearly
and concisely as eloquently and as fast as possible.
So, how do you defend against your opponent in a
situation where it is difficult?
Russ: you maintain cover.
Lyka: correct or you move,
Russ: true, hmm.
Lyka: urban warfare, something I'm
studying at the moment.
Russ: tricky concept, something I'm
studying at the moment.
Lyka: very difficult to do. House to
house combat is nasty, especially for the attackers,
almost as bad for the defenders. But, getting back
to sword fighting, limited
movement, speed, deception. Urban conflict,
deception, speed, limited movement.
Lyka: you see?
Lyka: so, it wasn't just a little bit of fun
lesson, it was an analogy you see?
Russ: good call. I'll use it in the
sense that it's presented.
Lyka: uh-huh, it's also fun too.
Russ: well yeah that's true.
Lyka: okay, questions?
Russ: how's...(A tape
error occurred at that point.)
Lyka: oh life's going great, I'm glad
to be back on the base, glad
to be back with my love.
Russ: well that's good. So.........I
was going to ask you something.
Lyka: yes, hard to not be able to
shout from the highest place that I found my love.
Russ: true. Don't you, do you still
have the same problems that your former commander
had? That in the field with your uniform?
Russ: have you fixed that yet?
Lyka: there is no fixing for it
because of the amount of equipment that's carried
Russ: why not talk to Kiri or......
Lyka: because Kiri doesn't understand
Russ: how about Leah?
Lyka: Leah doesn't understand the
problems, you have to be in combat to understand the
Russ: so what if you put one of them
in a simulated combat in a simulator
and went through the combat in the uniform that they
Lyka: do you think we would've come up
Russ: I would think so but it doesn't
sound like an impossible problem to do.
Lyka: you need as much movement as
possible and there's a whole load of equipment that
strapped around there. Besides, it's not every
planet that has those kind of weapons.
(Lasers the suit is designed to deflect.)
Russ: true. There's got to be an
easier way. How do the guys do it?
Lyka: the guys?
Lyka: they have the same armor. The
only difference between us and the guys is in the
women's non-commissioned officers outfit and the
ranks they have the or we have the tight fitted
groin protection. Basically like a pair of steel
Lyka: doesn't work in the officers
Russ: why not?
Lyka: because of the amount of
Lyka: for the steel panties to work
right? They do away with the skirt,
the metal skirt, the
metal skirt is there because of the equipment because
with the equipment you do away with the panties for
the groin protection and everything.
Russ: don't you get a little
bit exposed though?
Lyka: no, because the armor protects
you. That shot was a million to one.
Ricocheting off the ground and straight up?
(The laser shot that killed her former commander
Russ: true. I just worry about you
Lyka: hey, if I'm going to die then I
die, I've done my duty, I've kept my oath
I'm planning to retire as a general.
Russ: general what?
Lyka: a general nuisance.
Russ: ahh, that's what I thought.
Okay, well that will work then.
Lyka: besides, there's going to be
five years where I won't be able to go into combat.
Russ: well your school work?
Lyka: well, that's not including my
Russ: oh, well why wouldn't you go
Lyka: mothers aren't allowed to go
into combat and as soon as I finished my schooling,
I want to be a mother.
Lyka: so you're talking nine years
down the road before I get back into combat.
Russ: well that's good.
Russ: well maybe by then they'll
figure something out anyway.
Lyka: hopefully, hopefully. You've got
to remember the amount of equipment that we carry.
In that area we have our receivers, our
transmitters, our little computers that tell us the
status of everybody, there's a lot of stuff that is
carried down in that area as well as up through the
Russ: well, who knows what nine years
Lyka: who knows. Maybe in nine years
I'll be up for another commission and have to spend
another four years at college.
Russ: well 30 days my dear hmm?
Lyka: 30 days?
Russ: is that all you've got left?
Russ: how long have you got left on
Russ: 15? Oh yeah that's right, you're
off....two weeks have already gone by.
Russ: well that's good. Did you have a
good time at the party the other night?
Lyka: uh-huh, great time, great time.
Russ: excellent, what happened? I
didn't get to hear any of those details, the down
and dirty details anyway.
Lyka: what do you mean?
Russ: like what really happened?
Lyka: what have you heard?
Russ: all I heard was there was a
Lyka: ohhh, yeah we had a good time.
Russ: yeah but what really happened?
Lyka: we had a lot to drink.
Lyka: we got very silly, I got
Russ: good for you.
Russ: I can't think of a better person
to have it happen to.
Lyka: uh-huh. I tried or quite a
number of people tried to have wild sex with me. I'm
starting to get reputation for not as being.....not
as easy as I once was.
Russ: yeah well you have reasons now.
Lyka: uh-huh. Well, I'll do whatever
she wants me to do. If she wants me to do the base,
I'll do the base, I'll do whatever she wants.
Russ: well I'll be in line for that.
Lyka: oh really? Promises, promises.
You'll have to ask her.
Russ: yeah, you wouldn't be very
satisfied I don't think. I still have got a long
ways to go on my astral projection until I'm as good
Lyka: oh, oh yes. Yes that.
Russ: it would be like, "did you feel
something dear? No, did you?"
Lyka: oh, it must be a stealth Russ.
Russ: it must be Russ coming through.
Lyka: that must be Russ on the stealth
Russ: that's me.
Lyka: nobody knew that he was there.
Got in and out.
Russ: a brush of wind go by?
Lyka: she certainly helped me to
Russ: well good, you probably need to
Russ: I need to experiment.
Russ: I'll let you get off to your
Lyka: no, she's going to talk next.
Russ: oh she is?
Russ: I can see this is going to be a
Lyka: could be, could not be. Thank
Russ: sweetheart, it's good to have
Russ: I will talk you one more time
before you go.
Lyka: no you won't.
Lyka: not if what Tia is saying is
Russ: oh okay.
Lyka: I leave on the second.
Russ: that's not two weeks is it? I
guess it is two weeks.
Like a uh-huh.
Lyka: then I will be back June 1rst.
Russ: well we'll see you in June
Lyka: uh-huh. I do.......and then at
the end of November, I go on to a two-month cycle.
Russ: oh, okay.
Lyka: uh-huh mainly because I've got
some very intense studying that I have to do. So
it'll be January, February I'll be there and then
March, April I'll be here.
Russ: well that's a year away.
Russ: have fun darling, we'll see you
Lyka: see you in June.
Russ: you got it.
(Tia returns to swap speakers.)
Tia: (says hi in Durondedunn.)
Russ: hi Tia.
Tia: okay, next speaker.
(Leah settles down to channel.)
Russ: hey Alana.
Russ: oh, I mean Leah.
Russ: my brains thinking on my other
Leah: ahh. Oh other bond mate huh?
Leah: okay, what do you want to know?
Russ: well, kind of..........I don't
know, what's up?
Leah: what's up?
Russ: what's up?
Leah: distractions, that's what's up.
Russ: that's what I figured.
Leah: uh-huh. Okay, what do you want
to talk about?
Leah: my babe said that you wanted to
ask some questions.
Russ: yeah, there was some engineering
stuff I was working with her on but I don't think
you can help me on it. She says you don't have the
military expertise to be able to figure it out.
Russ: her armor.
Leah: ahh, don't understand it.
Russ: ahh she said you wouldn't.
Leah: okay, what do you want to talk
Leah: so what's this I hear about you
having problems. Okay, you want to learn how to
Leah: okay, they're all very sensory,
I'm very sensory.
Leah: so you've got to go for sensory
Russ: can you do that with your
Russ: okay, how?
Leah: it's, touching in the right
Leah: what exactly do you want to
Russ: well, basically how to turn a
girl on without getting her clothes off.
Leah: okay, well there's the ears.
Leah: okay? There's the nose, the
chin, the underside of the chin, the throat, the
side of the neck, both sides. The
spine, applying pressure in
the right places of the spine can have some really
devastating effects once we're aroused. But the
spinal area, the spinal area has
some very interesting functions, especially
if you know where to apply the pressure. The base of
the spine and the top of the spine near the top of
the cranium. Tell you what, the best person to talk
to would be Kiri. I've been, we've been
experimenting with different pleasure zones,
sides of the armpits.
Leah: anywhere where a person
is ticklish. Now if for somebody walks around a lot
of the time bare feet, their feet aren't as
sensitive so you have to be a little bit more
rougher with the feet. If they wear stockings and
sneakers, their feet tend to be more supple, more
receptive, more sensitive. Now one way to stimulate
a sense is to deprive somebody of another sense.
Leah: for example sight, blindfolding.
Leah: uh-huh. You take away sight
the senses go wild. Anticipation, teasing, for
example let's say I'm blindfolded......no let me
rephrase that, Lyka's blindfolded. I have
her tied by the wrists right? And I'm talking to
her, telling her all the things I'm going to do to
her nice and slowly. Telling her I have the ice in
my hand and it's something to watch
physically not only the body and the changes in the
color of the skin of the face and the shoulders but
also the lips. How the lips change and swell tells
you a lot.
Leah: uh-huh. The lips will fill with
blood. For example, Lyka's lips are normally quite
flat and thin and she could do with smiling more.
But when she's aroused, her lips are very full.
Russ: it's like an erection.
Leah: yeah. It happens to both men and
women by the way.
Leah: coloring of the cheeks, there's
the flush, the sexual flush that comes. The eyes,
the pupils will get larger and larger. Let me see,
what else? Warmth of the skin. Because of the blood
and the flush right? The skin gets warmer. These are
all signs to watch for. The easiest one to tell is
probably the eyes and the nipples. The others
sometimes get missed, especially if they're wearing
Leah: the lips are something that you
don't notice until they are fully inflated with
blood, fully engorged.
Russ: right, hmm.
Leah: so, what are the main things?
Russ: well you got the lips.
Russ: you've got nipples, pupils......
Leah: uh-huh. But what's the main tool
to get there?
Russ: oh, senses.
Leah: senses. And I
learned this all just very recently.
Leah: you know I missed so much by not
being so sexually active?
Russ: yeah well, you've got a lot of
room to catch up with.
Leah: oh, you're telling me. I owe
my sister a lot.
(Huna: AKA The Bunny Monster.)
Leah: but when she was here last time
when she was coaching, I learned a lot. The warmth
of the skin is something that can be very, very
telling, very telling.
Russ: gets hotter huh?
Leah: uh-huh, because the heart's
beating faster. Another one is breath, the (breaths
faster.) That is something to listen for, rapid
breathing. Because the heart rate elevates.......
Leah: you understand?
Russ: uh-huh. Breathing, skin
Leah: and you can tell whether
somebody likes you or not by their pupil reaction.
Leah: yeah it's not only a sexual
thing with the pupils, it's if you like somebody.
Now with women there are certain other little
Leah: and that is as she's talking to
you she's twiddling her hair, she's
making herself prettier for you.
Leah: she's sucking on her hair and
playing with it as she's talking to you.
Russ: that's a good one.
Leah: uh-huh. Just subtle little body
Leah: okay, I'm done.
Russ: okay love, I'll have lots of
chances to practice here.
(Tia is back to pass the chat off to Kiri.)
Tia: (says hi in Durondedunn.)
Russ: hi Tia.
Tia: okay, last speaker.
(It's Kiri in to finish up the
Russ: ahhh, hello Kiri.
Russ: how's it going?
Kiri: it's going good.
Russ: good. So can you enlighten me on
this subject that Leah started us off on?
Kiri: she was giving away all the
Russ: ahh that's good,
Kiri: we women.....
Russ: what, you're trying to keep all
the secrets or something?
Kiri: of course.........pager.
Russ: yeah, I know what
Kiri: okay, as she was
sitting there talking to you she was looking towards
Lyka and she was twiddling her hair seriously and
Lyka was twiddling her hair and running her fingers
through her hair and doing this routine the whole
entire time and looking at her with longing so we
know what those two are off to do.
Russ: oh yeah no doubt.
Kiri: uh-huh. Okay, you're looking for
tricks okay? She's gone through quite a lot of stuff
Russ: yeah she did.
Kiri: fidgetiness can have one of two
meanings. If somebody's fidgety, it either means
they want out of there right? Or, they want to be
elsewhere. Okay, back to body language. Now if
somebody's looking at somebody and totally has their
attention right? And how they move, their movement.
Okay you got two people talking right? Okay, they're
talking right? Okay now what does this tell you?
the other hand.
(Hold's her arm up with the palm facing outward.)
Russ: that they are repulsed by the
Kiri: well they're moving away, they
don't find them attractive.
Kiri: now what does
that tell you?
(Hold's her arm out with the palm facing inward.)
Russ: more attractive.
Kiri: correct. How the person moves
towards the other person, away or towards also is a
good bit of body language especially
between the sexes. How they.......when they're
sitting. If they're sitting facing each other, the
long looks, the pupil reaction. The pupils
grow due to the fact of taking in more of the
Kiri: okay odor, how the person
smells. Notice the slightly different
odor about the person.
Russ: hmm, that's a good one.
Kiri: uh-huh. Whether it is pleasant
or not. Pleasant to you means that you're attracted
to them. It doesn't mean whether or not they're
attracted to you, it means that they
are in a state of sexual arousal, that's
all it means.
Kiri: are their movements slow or
quick? If they're slow, whilst they're talking to or
looking at you as you're talking or they're talking
means that you have their interest or you are
interested in them. How they react. If
they offer a drink to you from their hand, "here
have a drink, have a bite to eat.", it
is a gift from them to you, from their hand to your
Kiri: if they sit there
and they're talking to you and they're playing like
the hair on the glass and they're looking at you. If
they're looking down whilst they're doing it, means
and not interested because they're not
looking at you and they're sort of like, "ho-hum,
what an asshole, wonder
what he's talking about? Not
listening." You see?
Kiri: Leah had some very good points.
She gave you lots of useful information, depending
on how you use them, depends on what kind of person
Kiri: because basically they're tips
on how to know the right partner. If you're
interested in a person and they're reacting in a
particular way right? Tells you whether or not they
are interested in you.
Kiri: tells you how they're reacting.
Tells you whether or not you're going to get lucky.
How you act on it.
Russ: well as a coercer, you probably
probably can see all these things easier too.
Kiri: oh yeah, I pick them up real
easy. What has that cat got?
Kiri: could be dangerous.
Russ: oh no, they have pretty good
defenses against that.
Kiri: oh, okay.
Russ: she ate it.
Kiri: did she eat it?
Russ: uh-huh. She's quite proud of
that too I might add.
Kiri: eating spiders huh?
Russ: hey, every one running around
THE TAPE ENDS