Archivist Notes: November's podcast of a channeling
session from 1996 introduces a new guest to hear the
members of Hades Base who was visiting from
Australia named Nicole. She has been mentioned
before in previous sessions but we finally hear her
on tape as she adds her contributions to the
questions asked. This could almost be called a
follow-up to last month's podcast except that this
channeling session took place over eight months
prior to that one. Last month we had called our
friend Carrie who had moved away from Lake Tahoe but
caught after she had gone to sleep. We again catch
after she had retired for the night but this time
she forces herself awake and all of side one is our
conversation with her. She had an upcoming marriage
soon and so a lot of the conversation covers that
subject through her chat with Kiri, Tia, and Karra.
On side two we were joined by our friend John and we
hear more on why Tia wasn't the ring mistress for
the night's session and why we would have a
replacement for the next few weeks. To wrap up this
summary, she is also the speaker who tells us all
about her honing her hunting skills by tracking and
killing with her bare hands holograms of one of the
animals she used to hunt on her homeworld.
With Kiri taking on the role
of ring mistress, she is the first to speak to
Carrie as we ring her up right away. With the
impending wedding, Kiri and Carrie go over dresses
picked out already and the ones Kiri had been
getting ideas about to show Carrie. Next, the
bride-to-be asks for and gets an update of what was
happening on the base before Karra comes on to
answer questions Carrie had for our resident healer.
First to be gone over was a blood pressure rise
Karra had received reports on that Carrie would need
to address, especially if a planned pregnancy was to
take place after the wedding. We also see some
Carrie's incredible resolve as she declares herself
able to heal a recent infection without the aid of
doctors. That's all the time Karra had to allow
everyone to speak to her so she makes way for Tia to
chat with her sister mind. Tia uses her time to go
over the bad dreams Carrie had been having which Tia
was able to wipe from Carrie's memory by slipping
into Carrie's dream state. She had also been using
those moments to help Carrie with her astral
traveling. Finally, they discuss the difficulty
Carrie had been having adjusting to a life away from
California. Kiri's talk with Carrie had been cut
short by her sister so Kiri returns to talk about
what would take place when Mark and myself went to
her wedding and how a channeling session could be
arranged like in the old days. Kiri next completes
her discussion about the dress designs she had in
mind for the wedding as well as various
miscellaneous subjects before they have to usher
back in Tia and Karra to say goodbye since the long
distance call was racking up some minutes. After
they hang up there's not much more time on the side
than to note that Kiri's name in Sirian would be too
tough to say using Mark's body.
Kiri starts out side two for
only a minute or so before giving up her seat to her
sister. Karra gets back to dwelling on a topic we
had been working on which was the vanishing bulk of
knowledge regarding healing in African tribes and
Native American tribes. One of those tribes, the Algonquin,
were mentioned as having some of the
knowledge concerning herb lore. We do find
out Ashtar is on the base though not able to
join the channeling session that night.
Kiri has to do in his place as she rejoins to take
Karra's seat because she has a lot to go over with
our visiting guest. We first get to hear about the
reason Tia needs to take a few weeks off which is
that her issues are related to her being Durodedunn.
After that, it's all business literally as Kiri and
Nicole discuss the bathing suit designs Kiri had
drawn up for her that she was taking back to
Australia. She knew of ways to get the plans to
market and so the agreement already worked out was
confirmed as to what would be done with any profits.
While visiting, Nicole had purchased a ski suit and
so at Kiri's urging tried it on for her to see it on
a person. She ends her time explaining why she has
to relate to the price of everything in cases of
wine which is because there isn't a monetary system
on Sirius. As explained in previous sessions, it's
an economy built around barter, karma, need, and
honor. That leaves Tia to use what little time is
left on the side to first take note of how Kiri's
transition of speakers wasn't done as it should be
with an audible gasp from Mark as one speaker
replaced the next. After that, she reveals that one
of her options to avoiding homesickness was to hunt
holograms of one of the animals from her homeworld
that would bear a resemblance to a deer. She details
how, back where she came from, they would hunt the
animal with their bare hands and use all parts of
the animal once it had been killed. Another
revelation we learn is that Tia would help out one
of our guests mentally by nudging his thinking in a
particular direction. There was an unspoken
agreement all us attending on the third dimension
agreed to when working with telepaths that mental
nudging was perfectly acceptable if it advanced our
growth. We end the session with Tia's assertions
that she is faithful to Mark and while the other
women of the base may have multiple partners, she
was just not that sort of woman.
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(Kiri steps in as acting ring
mistress to get the channeling session going)
Nicole: do you want me to dial it now?
(we hear a phone dialing before being picked up)
Kiri: hello, how’s it going?
Carrie: oh it's fine, how are you?
Kiri: did we wake you?
Carrie: good, what are you guys doing?
Kiri: well, it’s Tuesday night and what do we
normally do on Tuesday nights?
Carrie: oh God that’s right, I forgot all about it.
Kiri: I told Mark to call earlier on and to tell
Carrie: I know, I picked up the phone and it was too
Kiri: well he was supposed to have called in the
afternoon round about......I think it would be about
6 o’clock of your time?
Kiri: oh well nevermind, you sound tired, we’ll let
you go back to sleep.
Carrie: let me wake up, it will take me a minute or
two, you guys keep talking.
Kiri: okay, well we’ll let Russ talk to you for a
Russ: hi Carrie, can you hear me okay?
Carrie: okay, I just got to get up and move around.
I think I have the heat up too high.
Russ: that could be something.
Carrie: it drives me so crazy it gets so hot in this
Kiri: oh so it’s hot and sticky wise huh?
Carrie: oh yeah, it just gets really yucky. Okay,
I’m up, I’m awake.
Russ: good girl darling, I mean we did talk the
other day, didn’t you call me?
Russ: didn’t you call me the other day?
Carrie: didn’t I call you?
Russ: yeah and I told you all about tonight and….
Carrie: yes I know.
Russ: Karra wanted to talk to you and….
Carrie: I remember….
Russ: oh good.
Carrie: but I forgot.
Kiri: well you got a lot on your mind haven't you?
Carrie: I just kind of spaced it.
Kiri: yeah, did Mark tell you about my dress design
Kiri: uh-huh. Yeah, we will see if we can get some
drawings done and send them to you but the hand-eye
coordination doesn’t quite work sometimes.
Carrie: did he tell you that I already got a dress?
Kiri: he mentioned something vaguely about it but I
wasn’t paying attention, I was given into a mood
that had overtaken me at the time.
Carrie: oh okay.
Carrie: well I did get a dress and it’s beautiful.
Kiri: oh good.
Carrie: it was only a hundred and fifty dollars….
Kiri: how many cases of wine is that?
Carrie: it’s a really good price for a wedding
Carrie: it’s real sweet and simple for a garden
Kiri: oh yeah, nice and flowery?
Carrie: no, it’s just real plain......
Carrie: but it hugs the upper half of my body and
then it kind of flares down to my ankles.
Kiri: oh that sounds nice.
Carrie: and yeah it’s beautiful. So I got that but I
still want to see your designs.
Kiri: yeah sure, we’ll bring them with us, in fact
we’ll see if we can set up for a quick channeling
session when we get there.
Kiri: when we come for the wedding or rather when
Russ and Mark come for the wedding.
Carrie: oh okay.
Kiri: yeah we’ll be coming along and we’ll do a
quick channeling session for you.
Carrie: you’re not going to send me your designs
just to see?
Kiri: well in advance or do you want me to deliver
them semi in person?
Carrie: well I don’t know, either one.
Kiri: well okay I'll sketch some up next week and
see if I can a get tighter link so I can draw the
Kiri: means I’ll have to do some working out
Carrie: yeah I want to see what you designed.
Carrie: I got the bridesmaids dresses too.
Kiri: oh have they've got nice puffy sleeves?
Carrie: uh-uh, oh yuck.
Kiri: oh you don’t like puffy sleeves do you?
Carrie: puffy sleeves and no bows and no taffeta.
Kiri: taffeta, what’s a taffeta?
Carrie: it’s a material that is like well-known for
Carrie: and it’s awful. I mean when you walk it
(Carrie makes a swishing sound)
Kiri: oh I know that stuff.
Carrie: oh it’s awful.
Carrie: and bows and puffy sleeves, I just can’t do.
No, these are just real plain, little summer
Kiri: oh good, just a simple country wedding.
Carrie: yep well, basically things that we wanted
and we had to cut out a few things from the wedding…
Carrie: but I really got overwhelmed with all this
stuff that I wanted to do......
Carrie: but it doesn’t matter anymore.
Kiri: well Tia and myself will have a talk with Mark
and we'll do some shopping just for you. We’ll take
over his body for the afternoon, do some shopping
and get you something special.
Carrie: aww sweet, that'd be cool.
Kiri: yes Russ?
Carrie: well what would you guys get us?
Russ: that'd be a great idea.
Carrie: bet you it’s not on the list.
Kiri: no I’ll bet you it’s not on your list but it’s
something that you will find very useful.
Carrie: that’s what I mean though, you guys will be
the only ones that I would......I would know would
get me and Mike something that we would need and use
that would be totally awesome…
Carrie: other than a kitchen spatula.
Kiri: a kitchen spatula huh? We'll make sure Mark
has enough money to pay for what we're going to get
Carrie: so what’s going on up there?
Kiri: well Tia’s on leave at the moment, she’s been
given three weeks to relax, kick back and unwind so
she’s not ring mistress this evening, she's sitting
on the sidelines. I have the honor of being ring
Kiri: Alana, Karra’s daughter is being Alana, she’s
having a lot of fun. What else?
Carrie: I’ll bet she’s getting big.
Kiri: no, that’s not the one that’s pregnant.
Carrie: who’s pregnant? I didn't know pregnant.
Kiri: no she’s not pregnant I said.
Carrie: is somebody pregnant though?
Kiri: a friend of Alana’s and mine called Terri,
Carrie: oh okay.
Russ: Teene's pregnant.
Kiri: yeah Teene’s pregnant but you haven't met
Teene, she’s a technician.
Kiri: I’ve got a few other friends that are pregnant
too....what about a cup of tea Russ?
Carrie: you’re a nut.
Nicole: I’ll get it, I'll get it.
Russ: no, she wants me to get it.
Nicole: no I’ll get it.
Russ: we’ll both get it.
Carrie: what are you guys doing?
Kiri: oh I’m just sending them out of the room for a
Carrie: oh okay, bye Russ.
Kiri: Russ is gone. Okay and I'll go and close the
door so that they can't hear what we're going to
Carrie: God I didn’t realize I was that tired. I
didn't get to get to bed till 2:30 last night though
I had to get up at six.
Kiri: oh well nevermind. Okay I’m going to put Karra
on first and according to Karra you have some
questions so could you hold on one second?
(Karra takes over from her
sister to speak to Carrie)
Karra: hello, how’s it going?
Carrie: hi. Well, things are going pretty good.
Karra: uh-huh. How’s your stress level?
Carrie: it's getting better.
Carrie: less than it was two days ago.
Karra: yes, yes, I was given a full report by Tia
that your blood pressure was way up there.
Carrie: not real sure about that but I can probably
vouch for it.
Karra: uh-huh. So what is on your mind that has been
causing you to stress so much apart from the
Carrie: oh my family.
Karra: uh-huh. Okay now you’re still trying to get
Carrie: well we kind of stopped.
Carrie: I mean we're not doing anything to prevent
it but we’re not.....we were doing the temperature?
Carrie: body temperature every morning?
Karra: yeah, how’s it work with the human body? I
think it’s…..you should be at your most fertile or
higher chance of getting pregnant like three days
before you reach the middle of your cycle because
I’ve been doing some research. I’ve got a young lady
up here who was rescued by us who is an earthling
from your planet and she’s been helping me. (Sarah)
Carrie: oh really?
Carrie: wow cool.
Karra: yeah she doesn’t know why she’s helping me
but she’s helping me which is the main thing.
Carrie: well we kind of.....I mean it’s not
something.....it's kind of something that I put in
my back of my mind…
Carrie: right now?
Carrie: because with that it added so much more
pressure on me.
Karra: uh-huh certainly, it’s one of those things
that with stress your body will not conceive, it’s
an automatic safety valve.
Carrie: yeah, it’s just not, it’s not doing what
Carrie: what I want it to do right now.....
Carrie: so we agreed that we were going to wait…
Karra: uh-huh until after the wedding.
Carrie: yeah and I mean we’re not preventing it.
Carrie: I mean if it happens it’ll happen but if it
doesn’t happen then we're going to start back up on
the thermometer after the wedding…..
Karra: of course.
Carrie: because it’s just, it’s gotten….
Karra: well I think maybe your wedding night might
be a very auspicious occasion.
Carrie: you know I was thinking about that the other
Carrie: I was also thinking that my wedding is
planned right smack dab in the middle of my period.
Karra: uh-huh. Oh well not to worry, things might
cause your body to change slightly.
Carrie: I'm hoping, I was thinking about going to
the doctor and asking him if there’s any way I can
push my period up a week you know? Like taking
something but I don’t know if I want to do that.
Karra: well I have some drugs but unfortunately I
can’t give them to you. I mean….
Carrie: I just don't want.......I mean I don’t care
that I’ll be on my period, I don’t want to start my
period that day because my period's are mean.
Carrie: they’re really mean.
Carrie: they don’t give me any slack at all.
Karra: yes I used to have pretty heavy ones too.
Carrie: yeah I don’t want to be cramping walking
down the aisle. They'll have to give me some
tranquilizers or something or I’ll forget get my
Karra: yeah a few glasses of wine beforehand might
Carrie: I thought about that too.
Carrie: but we found a house to move into.
Karra: oh that’s good.
Carrie: we found a house that we're going down
tomorrow at the bank to try and get financing so
everybody, please put your positive energy all
Karra: okay that brings me to the next subject
Karra: now, your body is healing itself nicely, you
haven’t had any more problems have you recently?
Carrie: oh yeah I have.
Karra: okay tell me which problem that you've had?
Carrie: another bacteria infection......
Carrie: and Mike and I just both went through
Carrie: and I don’t know whether they're prescribing
something that’s not healing me or that I’ve become
Karra: that’s a possibility, there’s also positive
Carrie: yeah, well that is…..I know that I can heal
Carrie: and I’m not going to go back to the doctor.
Carrie: I’m going to heal it myself.......
Carrie: because I know that I can......
Karra: of course you can.
Carrie: and I started working on it.....well I had a
real soul-searching day the last couple days and
yesterday really hit me.
Karra: yeah. Okay now when we come for the wedding
right? And the channeling session that Kiri was
talking about, we’ll get Russ to bring some crystals
and some healing stuff and we'll give you healing
Karra: uh-huh. Okay I’m going to put on trouble, Tia
as she’s very bored and mischievous sitting on the
sidelines this evening.....okay?
Karra: okay, she'll be right with you.
Carrie: okay I’ll talk to you later.
Karra: okay bye.
(Tia takes the place of Karra in
the channeling field.)
Tia: yo sister mind, how’s it going?
Carrie: hmm fine, how are you?
Tia: oh I’m fine. Sorry about your dreams, I’ve been
blocking out the bad dreams. I’ve been coming down
every other day and blocking out your bad dreams for
Carrie: well good, because I haven’t been having any
Carrie: I haven’t......actually I had some really
good ones the last couple nights because we found a
house that we want to buy and….
Tia: yeah but the ones that you were having before,
the ones that you weren’t remembering, I was wiping
them for you.
Carrie: oh well good......
Carrie: because I don’t like those.
Tia: no, I don’t like them either. Uh-uh, no way.
Carrie: I woke up…
Carrie: a couple mornings, well it was Valentine's
morning I woke up. I had a dream that we had moved
into a new house.......
Tia: uh-huh, oh that’s good.
Carrie: really beautiful and I woke up really angry.
Tia: yeah well I’m sorry that I had to wipe some of
those dreams but it was something that I had to do.
Carrie: no I’m glad because…
Carrie: some of them were getting outrageous.
Tia: yeah. But okay I've been also helping you with
your astral travel as you might of noticed, some of
those floating, flying dreams.......and those are
actual astral travel trips.
Carrie: oh cool.
Tia: uh-huh so we’re getting there. You’ve got to
build up your stamina though.
Carrie: I’ve been thinking about my astral traveling
a lot lately.
Tia: yeah, what we're going to do is we’re going to
start you flying by yourself but I’ll pull you up
like I’ve been doing. Instead of me taking you
somewhere, I’ll let you just float free and let your
subconscious program where you want to go.
Carrie: well I wonder where I’ll go?
Carrie: you know where I haven't been in a really
long time that I need to go?
Tia: well back up here to the lake?
Carrie: but I need to go to California, I need to go
to Rob’s grave.
Tia: uh-huh, okay we'll work on that. Okay I will
try to coach you in the right direction but it is
your subconscious so you have to tell your
subconscious what you're going to do.
Carrie: I remember how to do it, I just need to do
Carrie: I’ve neglected a lot.......
Carrie: since I’ve been here. You know I was
thinking about.....I’ve been thinking a lot about
what had you said to me before we had moved out here
and how you had said that I was going to face some
really major changes in my life….
Carrie: and it was going to be all on how I dealt
Carrie: and you said it would be the first six
months, well I dragged it out for a year and a half.
Tia: well the first six months were the hardest
Carrie: yeah they were because I wanted to go home….
Carrie: the first six months but now it got easier
but yet I was still dealing with a lot of the same
problems and I was counseling with my upline through
my business last night….
Carrie: and we had discussed some of the major
problems that I had been dealing with and where I
need to perform the most at and one of the biggest
problems that we came up with was my past......
Carrie: and how when I got here.....well all my life
I had dedicated my whole life to taking care of
Tia: yeah and you've got to take care of yourself.
Carrie: yeah and well I had taken care of everybody
else, I was so busy and consumed by doing that, that
when I got here nobody required that of me.
Tia: uh-huh and you felt a bit…….
Carrie: and then all of a sudden I kind of lost my
place in life.
Carrie: and I just became really confused.
Apparently, I have not known how to react and I’ve
been trying to solve the world’s problems but I have
no place in that because it’s not my doing anymore
to take care of other people. It’s my place to start
taking care of me….
Carrie: and well we discovered that was my biggest
problem was twenty-two years of my life has been
dedicated to taking care of other people, I don’t
know how to take care of myself.
Tia: okay now, what we'll do for your wedding
present is we’re going to give you a private
Carrie: I was going to say, you can’t tell me.
Tia: no, we’re going to give you a private present
just for you and then we're going to give Mike a
private present just for Mike and then we’re going
to give you a present for both of you.
Carrie: awwww, you know you guys don’t have to get
us anything, they’re coming out here that’s a lot.
Those guys are going to be here, that’s a lot. I
won’t see you but I know you’ll be here.
Tia: uh-huh, oh we'll be recording it all and
everything. Okay now Kiri wants to talk to you
seriously now that it's just the four of us at the
Tia: okay? So I’m going to put Kiri back on.....
Tia: and Kiri is in one of her moods so could be
Carrie: I’ll talk to you later.
Tia: okay, and I’ll be down tomorrow night.
Tia: okay? And I’ll make you feel all nice and warm
and fuzzy when you wake up in the morning.
Tia: you’ll feel wonderful.
Tia: bye, see you shortly.
(Kiri returns to finish up what
she needed to say to Carrie.)
Kiri: okay I’m back.
Carrie: how's it feel being ring mistress?
Kiri: it’s different, it’s a long time since I’ve
Kiri: uh-huh. Must be oh, six months or so. Okay now
then, have you been working with my exercises I gave
Kiri: you haven’t been practicing those?
Kiri: oh well nevermind, I was going to give you
Carrie: I mean well, things have been pretty good, I
haven’t really needed to.
Kiri: oh, okay but my offer still stands for when
you get up here.
Carrie: okay, I just got to get up there.
Kiri: uh-huh, well Tia’s working on it. Yeah it’s
all part of her grand scheme.
Kiri: it’s all part of her grand scheme, Tia’s plans
that she’s working on.
Carrie: ohhh, okay.
Kiri: yeah, uh-huh.
Carrie: I miss who I used to be.
Carrie: I really do, I miss the things that I used
to be able to do and the clairvoyance I guess you
would call it that I used to have.
Kiri: yeah, well we’ll work on that when we come
out, we'll spend an hour or so with you, just you,
Kiri…..I’m saying my own name now…..you, Tia and
Karra. So it will be just four of us…..
Kiri: so that we’ll get everything worked out and
we’ll do some heavy-duty healing on you and I’ll get
Karra to bring rubber gloves with her…..just
kidding. She told me to behave myself.
Carrie: I was wondering what the rubber gloves were
Kiri: no, she’s not allowed to do that sort of
Carrie: there’s only two things rubber gloves are
allowed in my life, that’s gynecology and
Kiri: uh-huh and blowing up as balloons.
(Carrie starts laughing)
Kiri: uh-huh. Yes but I suggested it and she said
she wouldn’t do that to you, wouldn't give you a
full exam because she doesn’t need to.
Carrie: hey, that’s right…..
Carrie: I want to know......
Carrie: you guys got to tell me, what’s going on
with all that alien and UFO stuff?
Kiri: we’ll deal with that when we’re there in
Carrie: oh no, I got to wait?
Carrie: you know what my mom told me?
Carrie: I asked her too, you remember you guys told
me to ask her?
Carrie: about her dreams and stuff like that?
Carrie: and she told me that she knows for a fact
that I’ve never been abducted. She says it's just a
mother’s thing she knows. And I said, “mom are you
sure?” And she said, “I just know you’ve never been
abducted Carrie” and I was like, “well I think she’s
little too emotional to make that decision.”
Kiri: yeah but sometimes they don’t have to abduct
you to do anything to you.
Kiri: I mean they can do it right there and then but
you’re totally shielded now so you haven’t had any
problems with that.
Carrie: no I haven’t been feeling any weird…
Carrie: things or….
Kiri: uh-huh. Okay now right, the plans for…..well
just the sketches, you want me to draw a body in
there as well, give you a picture with a body in
there plus plan views and everything?
Carrie: well yeah, do what you would normally do for
a sketch because I would love to see….
Carrie: how you do it.
Carrie: I would just love to see that. I’m just
really interested in seeing how you…..because when I
was younger I used to draw sketches?
Carrie: clothing? But everybody has their own
different way of doing it?
Carrie: and I know you design clothing…
Carrie: is what you do.
Carrie: and I’d love to see it done the real way.
Carrie: the way you do it.
Kiri: oh yeah.
Carrie: so do like what you would normally do….
Carrie: I would just like to see it…..I don’t know,
just out of curiosity maybe?
Kiri: okay, no problem at all, no problem at all.
And okay next subject that I have to cover…
Carrie: we might be changing our phone number though
because this house is in another town.
Kiri: yeah, well that's no biggie.
Carrie: so put your positive thoughts towards
Carrie: this home because it is so beautiful.
Kiri: yeah you'll get it, you'll get it, don't
Carrie: I have an idea in my mind that we're going
to get it....
Carrie: because everything is kind of pulling our
Carrie: and that would just take so much pressure
off of me right now.....
Carrie: if we went in and bought our own home.
Carrie: because I mean we're throwing away....you
know how we're taking showers in the morning?
Carrie: our tub is not draining and our landlords
we've called them three times and they're not doing
anything about it and so in the morning we've got
Kiri: get a bucket and.....
Carrie: and dump all the water down the sink.
Carrie: that's how we're doing it every single
morning and it is just about driving me crazy.
Kiri: have you used any Drano?
Carrie: well I ordered some but it didn't come in
tonight but see I'm afraid to do that because if
Carrie: which I don't think it is because the last
time we had this problem our drain was froze and
then he fixed that and then two days later it came
Carrie: so I think he screwed up something in the
Kiri: yeah, you might try a hairdryer on it.
Carrie: on the drain? We'll no because it was 60°
today, it would've came out.
Kiri: oh, hmm.
Carrie: but all the other drains, everything else is
working, it's just the tub's not working......
Carrie: and I'm afraid to put any chemicals down
there because if I do, then we're going to be taking
showers in the chemicals......
Kiri: yeah true.
Carrie: and the chemicals won't go down. We can only
get so much water out of the tub......
Carrie: and then the chemicals will be recycling
themselves on our feet.
Carrie: so I don't know if I really.......I would
wait until our product comes in. I'm going to try
that and if it doesn't work, then I'm really going
to get on the landlord's butt.
Carrie: yeah, I think you should. Okay, you got any
questions for me?
Carrie: I had a whole bunch of questions for you but
I can't remember them now.
Kiri: okay we’ll set up for a private channeling
session just between the two of us so that
we.....well I've just been slapped on the butt and
told that Tia wants to be in it and Karra's sticking
her tongue out and saying, "what’s wrong with me?"
So it’ll be just the four of us.
Carrie: this is true.
Kiri: yeah so it’s okay. Anyway, I’m going to go and
get Russ and Nicole back okay? So we’ll be right
back with you in a few seconds.
(Kiri gets up and calls for Russ and Nicole but they
don’t hear her)
Kiri: okay guys, yo, hey guys.......oh party
poopers. They’ve run off and hid.
Carrie: where did they go?
Kiri: I don’t know, I think Russ is upstairs. Karra
says that he’s upstairs listening to music.
Kiri: he’s got himself a new music system.
Carrie: see how he is?
Kiri: uh-huh. Are you comfortable in that
Carrie: are you talking to me?
Kiri: yeah, I just got you on the hologram again.
Carrie: who me?
Kiri: yeah. You remember how last time that we had a
nice little chat just the two of us that you were on
Kiri: uh-huh. Oh, we'll get Mark to make that tape
for you, how’s that sound?
Kiri: yeah and we'll get him to send it to you.
Kiri: okay? Because that’s got all the information
and everything that you need.
Kiri: okay? And do you have a Sony Walkman?
Carrie: no but I’m going to get one.
Carrie: I’m going to get another one.
Carrie: I used to have one but I’ve been neglecting
my Enya so I’m getting one.
Kiri: okay, no problem at all and Russ says that he
has that piece of Enya that you and Mark were
discussing and he’s going to look it up for you.
Carrie: yeah, there’s a couple songs that I want to
see if he can decipher for me because I’d like to
find a wedding chant.
Kiri: oh, for Mark to decipher for you?
Kiri: uh-huh, yeah he’ll do it.
Carrie: because I don’t understand Celtic.
Kiri: well there's several different dialects of
Celtic I believe. Tia’s nodding that she says yes
that there’s four different languages.
Carrie: I miss our past life regressions, that’s
what I want, I want to do one.
Kiri: well we can do that, we can get Russ to do
that for you.
Carrie: I haven’t done one of those in a really long
Kiri: uh-huh. Anyway, we're going to let you go now
because we don’t want to run up Russ’ telephone
Carrie: oh he can afford it, he told me other day he
has so much money he doesn’t know what to do with
Kiri: oh really? Hmmm. Okay, we’re going to put Tia
on for a few seconds, she wants to say bye to you.
(Tia pops back in quickly to wish Carrie goodbye)
Tia: okay sister mind.
Tia: hello, I’m back, fierce and ferocious and bushy
tailed. Yep, even my ears are twitching at the
Carrie: I still want to know what you look like. I
Carrie: don’t I?
Tia: uh-huh, you know. Okay, well I’m going to say
bye to you and I'm going to give you a big, wet
Tia: let me move the telephone so I can blow the
(Tia blows a kiss Carrie's way)
Carrie: oh thank you.
Carrie: I felt it.
Tia: good, good, good, good, good, good and I will
be down tomorrow and we'll work on the astral travel
Tia: ow, Kiri just slapped me in fun, I’m going to
bite her for that. Anyway I’ll see you later.
Tia: okay? Bye sister mind.
Carrie: thanks for calling you guys.
(Karra next returns to say goodbye)
Karra: okay, I’m going to say bye too.
Karra: okay you take care of yourself.
Carrie: I will.
Karra: and we’ll talk again.
Carrie: I promise I’ll start working on my healing.
Karra: good, good, good, good. Bye, love you.
(Kiri gives Carrie the final sendoff)
Kiri: okay, it’s me last of all.
Kiri: okay and I’ll give you a special kiss.
(Kiri blows Carrie her kiss as well)
Kiri: there you are.
Carrie: got that one too.
Kiri: uh-huh. Love you as always, hugs, kisses and
I’ll tell you what, we’ll try that again in your
Carrie: okay, thanks for calling, I love you guys.
Kiri: love you lots and I’ll pass on any messages to
(Kiri hear the phone hang up followed by a busy
(Russ, John, and
Nicole return to the channeling room as Kiri wraps
up side one)
Kiri: okay, now to go and find these guys. Where are
they hiding huh?...........okay that’s better. Yeah
we had a nice chat with our sister mind, well Tia’s
sister mind actually. Okay, you ready for the
swimsuits when they go back?
Nicole: yeah, you'll have to post them to me.
Kiri: relax, your aura changed. Your aura just
changed, what’s up?
Nicole: my login.
Kiri: oh, okay.
Nicole: it's unreal, it’s got everything, it's got
Nicole: I don’t really dig classical though about
Enya and stuff like that......
Nicole: but this DMX, I can't get over it.
Nicole: I'm going to have to get their details.
Kiri: up here I can pick music from any era, Earth
era, Sirian era…
Nicole: I know but the thing is I can't get up to
Kiri: uh-huh and Tia’s a very bored individual,
she's as I told you, did I tell you she’s got three
Kiri: oh Mark told you did he? Uh-huh yeah, she’s
been told to relax and unwind, she was getting a
little bit gloomy. Even I complained to Omal.
Nicole: we're going to see her tonight?
Kiri: yes she’ll be here.
(Russ and John enter the channeling room from the
Russ: well I missed it.
John: so this is off the record, hi Kiri.
Kiri: hey, how’s it going?
John: am I saying your name right, Kiri?
Kiri: yeah, Kiri.
Kiri: Kiri. If you want my name in Sirian, I don’t
think you’ll be able to get your tongue around it
John: okay go ahead say it…..if you can through
Kiri: I don’t think I can manipulate his tongue
quite and raise the accent that’s necessary.
John: okay well…..
(Kiri returns for a few before handing off to her
Kiri: okay, we’re going to put on the next person.
Russ: I rushed it out, okay.
Kiri: well actually I'm going to finish up the tea
first. You don’t have any questions for Omal do
Russ: yes I do but I’ll hold them off.
Kiri: yeah you’ll have to hold them off until next
week, Omal has not got out of his Council meeting
Russ: Tia’s there right?
Russ: ahh she'll be able to help me.
Kiri: no she’s not allowed to, I’m here to
regulate. She’s not allowed to answer any
questions to do with politics or any of her work.
Russ: alright, well I'll give you the question and
you tell me what she can answer.
Russ: I want to talk to her or Omal, who can't
talk to me, about contacting and who I should
contact on the Internet and working with them on
stuff with Hades Base and survival.....
have reason to believe that Sedona is on the
(John starts to chuckle)
Russ: yeah I've got to track it down when I get
back on it but this is the kind of stuff I want to
and also Ashtar Command is on the Internet, not us
Tia could probably do that once she gets back to
work is get on your Internet. Okay I'm going to
put on Karra.
Russ: all right.
(Karra returns to answer
questions we've been working on)
Karra: yes? Good evening.
Russ: so that half of Carrie's session, did you
talk to her?
I talked to her.
had a nice little chat.
Russ: I'll bet you did.
Kiri had a very nice chat with her.
Russ: I'll bet she did.
She enjoyed herself thoroughly, in fact both of
them enjoyed themselves thoroughly. We had her on
the monitor and as soon as Kiri started talking to
her for the second time, her aura flashed
Russ: oh good.
Russ: so that did good for her.
Russ: so how are you my love?
Karra: I’m doing fine.
Russ: okay healing on the Internet
Russ: what would you suggest?
Karra: okay first of all get information to see
how it's set up as I said to the other day to you.
Russ: right the class is starting on Wednesday so
I'll get more info on that.
Karra: yes, okay.
Russ: okay that’s how to get hooked into it, how
would I look for somebody that would dealing with
healing once I get on there?
Karra: you look under the section that says
Russ: okay well here’s the thing, you remember a
while back we were talking about going on the
Internet……well the whole reason we’re doing this
is to talk to people like in Africa and stuff….
Russ: who know about ancient, herbal healing
medicines and stuff?
Russ: okay, so what I want to do is figure out
once I learn what I’m looking for…
Russ: or no, how to look for what I’m looking for,
how to find….
Russ: what I’m looking for. What would I look for?
Karra: you would look for mystical remedies.
Russ: mystical remedies.
Karra: uh-huh. You would also look for traditional
remedies, you would look for recipes. Johnny I’m
sure could tell you that certain foods have
effects on the body in certain ways.
John: yeah and my question right behind Russ’….
John: can ask it now?
John: okay, Russ is into the computer, into that
Internet okay? I’m not into computers but I’m into
healing, I'm into cooking and I'm into helping
John: and helping my family here and back east and
in Sedona, I want to help people okay? So without
John: am I following the correct path?
Karra: yes. What you would do is that you would
ask.....say for example you wanted some
information on herbal remedies of the….
John: Native Americans?
Karra: yes, I was trying to think of a particular
John: I read your mind before you read mine.
Karra: yes, well I was trying to think of a
particular tribe and I can’t quite think of a name
Russ: how about the Hopi?
Karra: no, I’m not looking at the Hopi, I’m
looking at maybe….
Karra: no, I’m aiming more for the eastern coast.
John: okay, Iroquois? Algonquin.
Karra: yeah, Algonquin.
John: Algonquin, that is the key.
Karra: yes Algonquin is the tribe, they have a lot
of information on healing. They’re still around
John: yes, yes.
Karra: I mean as we discussed in the past about
certain chemical reactions that are caused in the
body by inhaling a harmful herb. Well all herbs
inhaled are harmful, some to a greater and some to
a lesser extent but you have to weigh the good
with the bad. For example, nicotine is not as
harmful as marijuana to your lungs however,
nicotine has other effects on the body which are
more harmful than the buildup in the lungs than marijuana.
Marijuana on the other hand has positive
attributes as does nicotine. Nicotine in excess
can have some very bad effects as can marijuana in
excess or any of the other......
(Karra starts to cough)
John: are you alright? Or is it....
Karra: I'm fine, I'm fine, it's Marks's body.
John: yes it's Mark's body.
Karra: yes, we're going to drink here.
(Karra takes a drink of tea with the help of her
sister to move Mark's body)
Karra: that's better.
John: can I ask you, was I Algonquin in a past
Karra: I don’t know, you’re asking the wrong
person. You’d have to ask Omal and as Kiri pointed
out, Omal is in a conference at the moment.
John: yes, yes I don’t want to disturb Omal.
Karra: yes and it’s just as well he’s still in the
conference, otherwise you would have a visitor
that you wouldn’t enjoy at the moment.
Karra: yes, he is on the base.
Russ: I don’t know.......yeah I do, forget it.
(Russ laughs at memories of past visits from
Karra: well put it this way, he’s okayed Tia’s
break from her work but he's not happy about it.
Russ: well he's probably not happy with us still.
Karra: I don’t know, you guys have been behaving
yourselves quite well actually.
Russ: we’ve been pretty serious lately about our
future and stuff and I asked Omal last week about
going on to more serious stuff and he said no. He
says keep on with the survival stuff and focus on
the future and get that down, then worry about
going back to meta-concert and stuff like that.
Karra: well actually I agree with Omal on the fact
that last week you were discussing with Omal about
looking forward to the upcoming problems.
Russ: well I don't know but......
John: I wasn't here last week but I've been living
this whole lifetime......everything, my education,
everything I've done has leaded up to this
breakdown in this third dimensional space we're
John: okay, I've lived my whole life and focus, I
knew it as a young child before I knew about
John: before I knew about channeling, I knew I was
living for this.
Okay let’s move on to the next topic of discussion
as we touched off a very sensitive nerve that
would be better for Omal to answer.
Russ: okay, let’s get cheery.
Karra: uh-huh. Carrie, she’s doing fine.
Russ: is she pregnant?
Karra: no but we’ve given her some techniques that
John: how’s my sister doing?
Karra: oh she’s doing fine, I haven’t been able to
monitor her as much as I would like to but from
your conversation that you had, she seems to be
John: did you monitor our conversation?
Karra: not personally, all telephone conversations
in your habitat do get monitored......for
protection. Okay now, let me see what else. Okay,
I don’t have anyone else off hand and you’re out
of luck Russ.
Russ: say what?
Karra: you’re out of luck.
Russ: oh is it that?
Karra: but Alana’s spending a little bit more time
at home, she doesn’t like the rumors flying around
even though that they are true.
Russ: where is Alana?
Karra: she should be asleep at the moment.
Karra: uh-huh. Okay I’m going to put Kiri on.
Russ: all right.
Nicole: see you.
Russ: bye my love.
Karra: it’s been a pleasure to meet you......
Karra: and I look forward to talking to you.
Nicole: I’ll ring you.
Russ: yeah because she'll be talking to you from
Karra: you take care of yourself.
Nicole: I will.
Russ: I get 12 hours free.
Nicole: that’s only within the states.
Russ: bye love.
(Kiri comes back to spend time
most of her time talking with Nicole.)
Russ: hi Kiri.
Russ: what’s up sweetheart?
Kiri: oh you know, slippery when wet.
Russ: yeah, all six foot three of you there.
(Kiri is actually six foot one.)
John: slippery when wet?
Kiri: it’s an Earth saying isn’t it?
Russ: yeah it's on the roads around the lake.
John: is that kind of like a sexual innuendo
Kiri: oh I’m sorry.
Russ: no she’s talking about the road conditions
out right now…..
Nicole: they've got signs saying slippery when
John: oh it’s really slippery out there right now.
John: it’s snowing, slippery….
Russ: she’s reporting road conditions to us,
aren’t you Kiri?
Kiri: yes, yes, uh-huh.
Russ: that’s what I thought.
John: oh I thought you were talking about your
Kiri: oh yes.
John: silly me.
Kiri: yes, I do have a long list of them.
John: yes I know.
Kiri: where do I start?
Russ: don't start.
Kiri: okay let’s change the subject, Nicole’s
John: well I didn’t mean to embarrass Nicole.
Kiri: okay, down to serious business. Okay,
John: what’s Ashtar and Omal doing?
Kiri: I don’t know, it’s a big Council meeting…..
Kiri: so it’s very…..that area is secure. The only
person that would have any inkling of what’s going
on is a lieutenant by the name of Lyka.
John: yeah, okay and I don’t think Lyka’s going to
talk to us tonight.
Kiri: no she’s not because she’s down there
personally doing guard duty.
John: okay the price of oil just dropped….
John: okay? Now I’m looking at the macroeconomic
situation on the planet….
John: and I’m curious about the whole…..
John: input and outcome on the major countries.
John: Australia, United States, Canada, Mexico,
China, what used to be Russia or what used to be
John: and Europe, the whole impact. I mean is
there……is the oil going to affect the
Kiri: well there are some countries that have a
larger supply of oils that can be used. I don’t
know, you’d have to ask Tia and Tia has been as
I've stated banned from bringing her notes, she’s
not allowed to be ring mistress........
Nicole: but we're allowed to talk to her aren't
Kiri: yeah, oh you’re allowed to talk to her.
John: okay, can I ask why Tia has been given these
Kiri: because she needs to relax and unwind, she’s
been getting like a coiled spring and she didn’t
tell me and she didn’t tell Mark but she's been
having a few little minor problems relating to….
Russ: sense of humor.
Kiri: well sense of humor we were aware about and
I did mention it to Omal but she’s been having a
few little medical problems.
Nicole: she might be pregnant again.
Kiri: no she can’t be.
Russ: she doesn’t get pregnant for another 12
Kiri: 12 years?
Russ: nine years now.
Kiri: no, it’s a five-year cycle I think.
Russ: oh so it’s three years.
Kiri: yes. But she’s been having a few minor,
little ailments which is related not to stress but
the fact that she’s been making herself unwell.
For one she's been having aches in her fingers and
it's not carpal.....
Kerry: no it's not arthritis, it's something that
is native to her race. Also she's been suffering
from pinging in the ears which is again native to
her race and being super-sensitive hearing, that
is very painful for her and she’s been hiding it
from us. We wouldn’t have known about it if she
hadn’t gone in for a full checkup the other day.
John: how could she possibly hide that from you
with you being in your sixth dimensional reality
and all your technology, how could someone
possibly hide that from you?
Kiri: well she just doesn’t go to the doctor like
she’s meant to and she hasn’t because she’s been
saying she’s been too busy with work and we’ve
been letting it slide. Also the fact that she can
block Mark and myself out from her intimate level
and by masking the pain. It’s quite simple or it
seems simple to us.
John: well okay, well quite simple to you but
fascinating to me.
Kiri: uh-huh. You'd have to ask Tia the reasons
why she was doing it, I don’t know. You have a
question, you’re sitting there very patient?
Nicole: I'm just listening tonight.
Kiri: oh you are? Are you being self-conscious
about being caught on the recording again?
Russ: well this is just her last one for a
Kiri: yeah, uh-huh.
Russ: until we call Australia and hook up with
Kiri: uh-huh and…..
Russ: she’s going back with your bathing suit
Kiri: oh yes that’s right aren’t you? Uh-huh okay
we'll keep you supplied with them. You have the
designs that we drew for you correct?
John: they’re here, they're intact.
John: or they were here, they were intact.
Nicole: they’re over there.
Kiri: yeah, you'll be taking them with you.
John: yeah, yeah, they’re here.
Kiri: the colors don’t matter, whatever color you
Nicole: oh, you know what I got to show you?
Russ: here we go.
John: yeah they’re here.
(Nicole breaks out a Spyder, one-piece ski suit
she had bought on her trip to the states)
Kiri: ohh, nice colors apart from I wouldn’t have
quite so…can you turn it around? I would’ve had
a......instead of writing Spyder,
I would’ve put a spider on the back.
Nicole: it says Spyder
on the back.
Kiri: no I would have put a spider on the back,
eight-legged. Also what I would do is I would’ve
done this whole entire side red and then kept all
the colors splashed over there but that’s me
Nicole: I like it a lot.
Russ: no she doesn’t like it, pure lust.
Kiri: I was about to say it’s missing something.
Nicole: God, what could be missing?
Kiri: well I heard a comment that was made by
Russ, it was relayed to me by Karra who thought it
Russ: which one?
Nicole: he's made many comments about it.
Kiri: I was just wondering whereabouts it was or
why it doesn’t have one?
Russ: oh yes.
Kiri: she did it again didn’t she? She relayed
back in reverse to you.
Nicole: Kiri, I don't want to talk about that last
Kiri: that’s twice I've made you blush tonight.
I’m sorry, I do apologize.
Nicole: I thought you’d like it.
Kiri: it is nice, I do like it
Nicole: I like the neck on it.
Kiri: uh-huh, the only thing that I don’t
understand but there again we do have materials
that hold in the heat and let moisture out is the
thickness of it. I mean they look nice certainly
but it’s something I’m not used to.
Nicole: I need to wear a skivvy under this.
Russ: a what?
John: and the thing is, don’t judge this garment
lightly because you haven’t seen it……I don’t know
if you’ve seen it….
John: with Nicole wearing it and it accents her
beauty quite nicely.
Kiri: uh-huh, oh well I haven’t seen it. Come on
put it on, come on put it on, put it on.
Nicole: okay but I hope Russ doesn't say anything.
Kiri: Russ, put your hand over your mouth.
Russ: I wasn't going to say a word, I'll zipper my
mouth right now.
John: I mean me, I analyze a garment from
practicality as far as pockets and hoods and
sleeves, removable sleeves and insulating
Kiri: oh it has removable sleeves?
(Nicole zippers up her ski suit)
John: yes, it has removable sleeves, it has a hood
and it’s by our third dimensional standards, it is
Kiri: yes it is actually, oh I do like that, oh
that's sensible. Can I have a look at the other
arm? And that one is........that’s very sensible.
John: and wouldn't you say that Nicole looks
totally bitching wearing that?
Kiri: I would say she looks totally cool.
John: and she knows I mean that as a compliment.
Kiri: yeah, huh-huh.
Nicole: stop embarrassing me, thank you.
Kiri: that’s three times tonight that she’s gone
red. Reno huh? Yeah we’ll send him down, you take
Russ: it’s on South Virginia.
Kiri: what we’ll do is….
Russ: about a mile from the casinos.
Kiri: what we'll do is…..
Russ: this side.
Kiri: we’ll take over Mark’s body....
Russ: right side of the street.
Russ: you drive down there and we’ll go in and
Kiri: how many cases of wine do they normally run
Russ: well it would cost you $14.99.
Nicole: Kiri, why do you compare the price of
something with cases of wine all the time?
Kiri: because that’s the only way I can work it
out is that when I send off the material or rather
when I finish a completed outfit, they pay me in
wine which I trade for other things.
Nicole: who pays you?
Kiri: well I’ve got a dealer back on Sirius who
takes a percentage.
Nicole: because if we do something with this…..
Nicole: like I told you…..
Kiri: it was Tia’s idea.
Nicole: all right but whatever, if this gets all
like into operating….
Nicole: you and....I'm sorry, Mark and Russell are
getting a percentage.
Kiri: uh-huh, what is it? Tia says that it was
Nicole: yeah something like that.
Kiri: yeah a 30/70 split. Okay that's.....
Nicole: 70 for me, 15 for for you and Mark.
Kiri: that’s 15 each.
Russ: works for me, I hope you’re a millionaire
Kiri: I think she’s going to make a million.
John: and I hope I'm just a ham sandwich in the
Russ: we may get some wine out of it too.
Kiri: uh-huh you see I mean I enjoy designing
swimsuits and I do it for pleasure. The fact that
I get cases of wine, it runs at about case and a
half, two cases depending on the design for each
swimsuit which would be about how much in your
John: yeah, 12 bottles to a case?
John: how many bottles to a case, twelve?
Kiri: yeah twelve.
John: am I correct?
Kiri: twelve average unless I’m going for
something special if I want a particular vintage
and and then it’s normally six to a case.
Russ: now if it’s a less expensive wine........now
we’re talking Sirian claret.
Russ: $120 a case, a hundred bucks minimum.
Russ: it's the good stuff.
Kiri: well it comes from the Dolle region…
John: okay, now totally separate, what about doing
Kiri: a swap of what?
John: I'll give you some wine and you give me some
of your wine.
Kiri: we'll I'd like to.......
John: I’ll leave a case of wine at a designated
Kiri: I would love to but I wouldn’t get the
clearance. It comes under frivolous usage which I
have gotten into trouble in the past for and so
(for a quick trip they made to Sirius)
Kiri: Tia is the only one that hasn’t gotten into
trouble for it.
Kiri: uh-huh. Okay, any more questions?
Russ: who’s on next?
Russ: no, no more questions.
John: no more for me.
Nicole: see you later Kiri.
Kiri: take care.
(Tia notes Mark's altered
breathing during Kiri's transition)
Tia: that's a sloppy changeover Kiri, I’ll have to
give her some pointers.
John: how do you mean? Define what you just said.
Tia: no, the changeover from me to Kiri was very
John: how was it sloppy?
Tia: she had Mark’s breathing suddenly go (Shoooo)
out the window.
John: okay and that’s not good for Mark’s body?
Tia: not good at all.
John: what’s Mark’s…..
Tia: energy level?
John: energy level right now?
Tia: it’s at about 60%.
Russ: monster energy.
Tia: uh-huh, he had a nice, relaxing evening and
it was my idea for that present for Carrie, I
thought she might like it.
John: have you interacted with me directly? I get
the feeling you're crawling into my brain and
helping me to a certain degree, are you doing
Tia: kind of, I nudge, I nudge. You have a very
wide reception level so it’s easy to receive
information and be nudged. You don’t have one
particular wavelength that you stay on. I think it
might be a side effect of probably your various
habits but I’m only guessing.
John: is that a positive or a negative attribute?
Tia: I can see both possibilities. One is being
able to receive on a wideband might end up driving
you batty but there again it can be useful.
John: okay, is there any keys you can give me to
help? Because it’s part of my personality and you
John: and I mean is there any any advice or keys
you can give me to help me focus more?
Tia: I’d have to do some research but
unfortunately I don’t have ac…..Karra said that
she’ll do some research for me and she will tell
John: good, thank you.
Tia: but that’s going to have to wait until next
John: what are you hunting for?
Tia: oh sorry, I was going to talk to Nicole. I’m
hunting holographic deer with nasty, pointed
antlers. Well actually it has two single antlers
and they’re about this long.
Russ: those aren’t deer.
John: oh yeah, it’s a species of deer.
Tia: it’s a Durondedunn species.
Russ: we call them antelopes.
Tia: it’s a Durondedunn species.
John: yeah, not with horns that long.
Tia: it is on my home planet.
Russ: oh, so they’re Durondedunn antelopes.
John: and how do you hunt them? Do you mind me
interjecting here? How do you hunt them? What
method do you use to….
Tia: just my bare hands and my speed and my skill
and my brain.
John: and you kill them?
Tia: well they’re holograms actually but on my
home planet yes, you’d kill them by breaking the
John: okay, do you ingest the meat?
Tia: yes, uh-huh, that’s the reason why we hunt
John: and it’s very good eating?
Tia: oh, very good eating, it’s beautiful.
John: you utilize the hide and the horns and all
of the meat?
Tia: yes, everything is used on my planet.
Everything from the intestinal tract to the brain,
every part is used. The bones are used to ground
down to make powder for various ceremonies….
John: okay now as far as the intestinal tract….
John: do you use that to make sausage?
Tia: no, we use that as fertilizer. The lining of
the intestine, yes that would be used to make
John: baggies is sausages, is it Sirian?
Tia: well that’s what the translation from
Durondedunn to English would be, would be baggies.
John: okay but the baggies are full of meat….
Tia: yes, uh-huh.
John: is that correct?
Tia: full of meat, yes.
John: thank you.
Kiri: uh-huh, we use every part.
Russ: I hope you're educated now okay?
John: thank you.
Russ: oh by the way, how’s Terri?
Tia: she’s doing fine, I saw her the other day
Russ: oh, how she’s doing? Is she like healthy,
Tia: yes she is actually.
Russ: talk about me at all?
Tia: not that much.
Russ: oh great.
Tia: uh-huh, yeah she came out of seeing her
doctor when I was going in to see mine.
Nicole: Studley Hatfield.
Tia: I don’t know. Kiri’s had him, she’s giggling
at the moment.
Russ: oh well.
Tia: uh-huh, I’ll stick with my one man.
John: yeah until I astral project myself up there.
Russ: no, she’ll still stick with one man.
Tia: I’m happily married thank you and I enjoy it
Russ: see, got to admire faithfulness.
John: that’s right, works good.
Tia: yeah. I mean I’m not being un….
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