SIDE
ONE
(Tia gets an unusual night off to
a start as ring mistress)
Laura: hello.
Tia: hi.
Laura: how are you this evening? Full of it.
Tia: uh-huh. yes, this is the real me, not all shy
and bashful and.......all those people.
Laura: ahh, but they're good people.
Tia: they're strangers to me.
Laura: well, they wouldn't be strangers if you'd
come out and to get to know them.
Tia: yeah, that's kinda.....
Laura: kind of true?
Tia: hmmm, you're a different species than me.
Laura: why?
Tia: you're all taller than me.
Laura: I know, but you've been with Mark for a long
time so you should be kind of used to Mark and Russ.
Tia: yeah, but it still frightens me, strange
people.
Laura: so you've been with Skip and I now two or
three times.
Tia: uh-huh, yeah.
Laura: well Donna was new and Bonnie was new......
Tia: uh-huh.
Laura: but you had more friends here then you did
strangers.
Tia: but l'm not used to it. I haven't been doing it
for years and years and years and years and years
like Kiri or Omal or Korton or even Karra.
Laura: yeah, how's she doing?
Tia: oh, she's doing fine. Which one?
Laura: Karra.
Tia: Karra. Oh yeah, she's doing fine.
Laura: she's still in trouble?
Tia: she's never in trouble.
Laura: oh, which one's in trouble?
Tia: oh, Kiri.
Laura: Kiri.
Tia: uh-huh.
Laura: okay.
Tia: yeah, she's still in trouble. She still in doo
doo up to here.
Laura: so when is she supposed to be out of this
trouble?
Tia: I don't know. You'll have to talk to Korton.
Laura: oh, that should be interesting.
Tia: uh-huh.
Laura: at least you're more vibrant tonight.
Tia: yeah, this is the real me. I'm behaving myself.
Laura: uh-huh.
Tia: Kiri is wearing...... (Incomprehensible)
Laura: I heard that.
Tia: uh-huh.
Laura: yes.
Tia: it's a leather bikini.
Laura: yes.
Tia: that would look nice on me sometime but no, not
tonight.
Laura: not tonight? What are you going to do
tonight?
Tia: I'm going to sit here and answer your
questions.
Laura: oh, I have a few little questions.
Tia: uh-huh.
Laura: I'm curious to know how Mark and I came up
with the fact that we need to go to Sedona together,
why?
Tia: best bet is to ask Omal about that or Kiri if
Kiri is going to channel. She's in communications
with Korton.
Laura: oh, is she?
Tia: uh-huh. You've got to remember, I'm just a
humble astral traveler.
Laura: oh, I need to ask the entity himself then.
Tia: the entity himself? That's a strange way of
describing his name.
Laura: I don't know how else to describe him.
Tia: which one?
Laura: well Korton or Omal or.......
Tia: or Ashtar?
Laura: Ashtar, yeah. See, he did come the other
night which I.......
Tia: I tried to warn you guys. I said be careful.
Laura: I was very impressed. I was very honored that
he came.
Tia: very intimidating, isn't he?
Laura: wasn't to me. I think he was to everybody
else but he wasn't to me.
Tia: uh-huh. Well Russ does tend to make you feel
like....
Laura: a young kid.
Tia: uh-huh.
Laura: and it's hard to intimidate me anyway but I
know the others were......
Tia: yeah, it's functioning properly.
Laura: is it okay?
Tia: yeah, it's fine.
Laura: okay.
Tia: fine and dandy.
Laura: good, I'm glad. So, I don't know, it's just
kind of a sit back night I guess.
Tia: oh, kick back, lay back, be cool, be hip.
Laura: yeah. A few things I'd like to know, really
know.........
(Tia sees one of our house cats nearby)
Tia: what is that yellow mass? Oh, I see.
Laura: he's going to get up and jump away here soon.
Tia: oooohhhhh.
Laura: ooohhhhh?
Tia: yes, we have boxing matches sometimes.
Laura: yes?
Tia: I've got it functioning properly reasonably
well.
Laura: you sure?
Tia: oh, nah, lost it. Oh well.
Laura: well I was just curious seeing how it's just
me here now.
Tia: uh-huh.
Laura: there he goes.
Tia: hhhhhhh.
Laura: oh, my cat does the same thing. She really
gets me good sometimes.
Tia: Mark had cuts all over when he came back.
Laura: surprise, surprise.
Tia: yeah, Russ had to tell him that I was hunting
Calvin.
Laura: that you were what?
Tia: hunting Calvin.
Laura: oh.
Tia: that's Calvin.
Laura: is that Calvin?
Tia: yeah.
Laura: yeah, he's like Mindy.
Tia: uh-huh.
Laura: he likes to play rough.
Tia: uh-huh, yeah, I noticed that. Yeah, she plays
rough.
Laura: yes she does.
Tia: uh-huh, I was watching the other day.
Laura: were you?
Tia: uh-huh.
Laura: she likes to tweak out and when I know she
starts tweaking out or she bats me as I go by she
wants to play.
Tia: yeah, I know all about cats. I'm descended from
these type of felines. Not the big, ferocious ones
but these little ones.
Laura: these little ones, huh?
Tia: that's why I'm so small.
Laura: hmmm.
Tia: and I'm tall for my race too.
Laura: are you really?
Tia: uh-huh. What am I in your measurements? Five
foot one, five two?
Laura: well, you're about as tall as I am.
Tia: yeah.
Laura: I'm five three.
Tia: but for my race, yeah, I'm tall.
Laura: what are they usually?
Tia: they range from about four two to about four
eight.
Laura: how did you get so tall?
Tia: well my father was tall. But he was only four
eleven and a bit and I'm a little bit taller than he
is. I don't know why.
Laura: hmm. Well we have that here too, it's
ancestral that makes you small.
Tia: yeah, uh-huh. Best way to describe it is, I'm
tall and skinny.
Laura: tall and skinny.
Tia: yeah, for my race.
Laura: one of these days it would be interesting to
have you through Mark draw a picture of yourself.
Tia: I'm not good with balances. (?)
Laura: you're not?
Tia: yeah. But I have seen a picture....
Laura: uh-huh.
Tia: it looks a little like me.
Laura: uh-huh.
Tia: and it's on a plate. I'm strawberry blonde.
Laura: yeah?
Tia: it's not long and flowing like the plate.
Laura: the plate, there's a comparison there?
Tia: oh yeah, and it does curl at the bottom.
Laura: do you curl it or is it all natural?
Tia: it just curls by itself.
Laura: it just curls by itself, huh?
Tia: uh-huh.
Laura: see, you could do that, just draw a picture
of yourself.
Tia: I'm not a very good artist. I can draw a
picture of me in my hunting colors.
Laura: oh? How many colors do you go to?
Tia: I wear a brown, gray, and a tan color and it's
all painted on. See, for my race it's a religious
thing, hunting.
Laura: oh it is?
Tia: yeah, it's only we girls that go hunting, men
aren't allowed.
Laura: why?
Tia: well on our planet, women were the dominant
like your men are dominant?
Laura: uh-huh?
Tia: we did all the fighting and the hunting and the
building and also having children as well and look
after family.
Laura: and do your men resent that? Like women here
resent the man being dominant.
Tia: no, it's their place, it's what they're more
suited for. They're more agriculturally interested.
Being stronger, they can do more construction.
Building ships, building modes of transportation.
They're much more suited for that instead of us
women that go out and hunt or used to hunt.
Laura: oh, you don't do that anymore?
Tia: no, apart for the priestesses.
Laura: you have stores and stuff like we do?
Tia: uh-huh, yes. We have limited space travel and
we can travel out to the edge of our solar system
which is a little bit bigger than yours. And it
takes us about two years to go out to the furthest
planets so they're not more advanced than you.
Laura: hmmm, it would be interesting. Of course, I
don't know if it's going to be in my timeline or
whether I'll live to see that.
Tia: I don't really know how fast you're advancing.
We're only like maybe two hundred years ahead of
you.
Laura: really?
Tia: yeah.
Laura: oh, okay.
Tia: on some things we're further behind.
Laura: like what?
Tia: well we're still very feudalistic. Instead of
being countries, its religious groups.
Laura: oh. Kind of like in Ireland.
Tia: hmmm.
Laura: Protestants and Catholics are fighting
continuously and killing each other off.
Tia: yeah, Mark mentioned something about that. We
don't have major wars or anything. Well not on our
planet Durondedunn. But on the satellite planets
there have been......hmmm. Anyway, you've got
questions. I'm taking up your valuable time.
Laura: oh it's going to be a just kinda a laid-back
session. You know, it's not really too involved.
Tia: what would you say, coolness.
Laura: yeah, more or less.
Tia: yeah.
Laura: yeah. I just needed to get away from home and
thought I would be with my friends so I can get some
feedback and have somebody to talk to me about
something other than work.
Tia: okay, so what are you selling then?
Laura: what am I what? What am I saying?
Tia: selling.
Laura: what am I selling?
Tia: yeah I know, I'm teasing.
Laura: oh.
Tia: you wanted to not talk about work?
Laura: oh yes, well I'm a little slow tonight.
Tia: hmm.
Laura: selling clothes.
Tia: I said we weren't going to talk about that.
Laura: oh, I'm sorry. But you asked a question.
Tia: I know, I'm teasing you. You Earth people are
so easy to tease sometimes.
Laura: I know and we're so quick to judge.
Tia: uh-huh. I like teasing Mark sometimes.
Laura: I don't know how long I'll be selling, I wish
something would come up that I could really, really
enjoy.
Tia: well, as I say, I don't look into the future,
I'm just a humble astral traveler.
Laura: I know, astral traveler. That's interesting.
Tia: yeah, you wanted to know about astral travel,
didn't you?
Laura: well yeah.
Tia: uh-huh.
Laura: I have a grandson. He's real young yet.
Tia: uh-huh. I heard about him.
Laura: yes, he's going to be coming home end the of
the month and we need to sit down and start working
with him.
Tia: well what I can do, if I can guess his mental
signature, is I can go down and help him to astral
travel in his dreams, you see.
Laura: uh-huh, he's a very confused little boy right
now.
Tia: how come he's confused?
Laura: well, I guess it comes.......I could say
comes a lot from me because it definitely doesn't
come from his mother.
Tia: yeah, because she's a little bit disorganized.
Laura: yes, definitely. I'm the type of person that
I have to be organized or I don't function very
well.
Tia: uh-huh, yes, I wish Mark was like that. He can
be very disorganized at times.
Laura: well we're all different down here.
Tia: me, I like everything nice, neat, clean, and
tidy. I mean, look at this place. It needs
vacuuming, it needs dusting, it needs quite a few
other things done. I mean, you could polish up this
pyramid thing here. You could get the windows
clean............sorry.
Laura: I don't do windows either unless I have to.
Tia: well, I have a slight advantage. Not only am I
an astral traveler......
Laura: hmmm.
Tia: I also have psychokinesis.
Laura: well that's cheating.
Tia: it's not, it makes life easy. It means that
whilst I'm vacuuming, I can have something dusting
at the same time.
Laura: that's true, that's true.
Tia: uh-huh. Or I can pick up my children and move
them out of the way.
Laura: that would be interesting to be able to do.
Tia: it takes a little bit of brain strain but not
too much.
Laura: I used to use my mind to cheat at cards.
Tia: no, it's not cheating. It's called using all
the possible advantages.
Laura: well, was I ever and I would just have so
much fun because people could not understand how I
could see what they were going to put down
next........
Tia: uh-huh.
Laura: and go from there.
Tia: yes.
Laura: it was very interesting because all I had to
do was put a mental picture in their head of what
they had......
Tia: uh-huh.
Laura: and I was having fun.
Tia: it's as long as you use all available
information.
Laura: uh-huh.
Tia: Kiri's pretty good at playing cards.
Laura: is she?
Tia: uh-huh.
Laura: I haven't played in years. It was just fun
and games, it wasn't anything.
Tia: she's spent time playing things like poker. You
got to make things like Ace, King, Queen, Jack, ten,
or four fours or something like that.
Laura: yeah, I don't know much about poker.
Tia: she'd be getting people to discard cards that
they need.
Laura: uh-huh.
Tia: I mean if you used farsighting. That's the
problem of peeking through the cards but mind you,
that's cheating but I don't stop anybody else from
doing that.
Laura: but it's fun as long as you're not hurting
anybody.
Tia: that's right. We don't play for money or
anything.
Laura: no, you wouldn't have any anyway.
Tia: mind you, well we don't have money up here.
Laura: what do you do?
Tia: me? I'm a communication.......I analyze data,
act as a relay, act as a storage for information.
I've just been moved into Korton's department so I'm
learning all new stuff. I wanted to work in the
creche with my children.
Laura: in the crafts?
Tia: creche,
daycare.
Laura: oh, okay.
Tia: nursery.
Laura: well I know but sometimes you need to get
away from the children and have some time for
yourself.
Tia: but they're my first ones.
Laura: I understand. I took on my second batch which
are what we call grandchildren.
Tia: uh-huh, you wanted to be with your eldest all
the time when you first had them.
Laura: I miss my children, our children are our best
friends.
Tia: yeah, I know. I hate to leave them when I go to
work but where I'll be working I'll be allowed to
bring them with me.
Laura: oh that's true.
Tia: uh-huh. Because Koton got himself a cat
about oh, six months ago, a little kitten.
Laura: oh, how nice.
Tia: yeah, so his kitten wanders around all over the
place and as my children are descended from cats
they should get along pretty well then.
Laura: well they have a familiarity there.
Tia: uh-huh, they're familiar, yes.
Laura: I enjoyed my cats. I'm not one for dogs but I
do enjoy cats.
Tia: dogs, huh. You know, you talk about hot dogs,
on my planet they actually are real dogs.
Laura: oh really?
Tia: uh-huh.
Laura: how do you describe that?
Tia: how do you mean?
Laura: what do you mean? You said hot dogs are real
dogs.
Tia: real dogs, that's what they're made of,
sausages. They're made out of real, live canines, or
real dead canines.
Laura: oh, yeah, that's gross.
Tia: why?
Laura: I couldn't handle that. I don't know, we have
different species of our people down here who eat
dogs and cats and stuff like that.
Tia: uh-huh. Well, they're not like pets.
Laura: you use them for food.
Tia: yeah.
Laura: like we do cattle.
Tia: uh-huh.
Laura: it seems really strange to hear that and we
use them for an intellectual being.
Tia: well, they're not that smart on my planet and
they're not quite like your canines.
Laura: oh.
Tia: most of them don't have tails but their front
legs tend to be bigger than their back legs.
Laura: uh-huh.
Tia: and their hearing isn't as acute for them. And
their teeth are bigger and more crushable. They can
crunch things better, their jawbones are stronger.
Laura: oh. So they're more of a vicious......
Tia: yeah.
Laura: vicious animal in that breed. They wouldn't
make very good pets.
Tia: no. We don't have many things that are pets. We
have a kind of flying creature that are very good
pets, they're quite intelligent. We have a kind of
dolphin type that makes good pets but those are only
for people that live in water with animals. We have,
what would you call them? Long, sliver along the
ground.
Laura: snakes.
Tia: yeah, I think that's what you call them.
Laura: a lot of our people have some but they're not
really a pet, they're just there. They don't
function as a pet and can't love you and they can't
really keep you company.
Tia: well these are smart animals.
Laura: oh.
Tia: or the ones I mentioned are ideal for pets. We
have flying creatures. A cross between a little cat
and a bird that has wings like a bird apart from
there's four of them.
Laura: four of them?
Tia: yes.
Laura: like a dragonfly.
Tia: kind of, yeah and it's like a very small cat.
Not only do they make great pets but we also keep
the house clean of little flying insects and things.
Laura: I understand the need for wings to fly.
Tia: well, if he was to fly or your Mindy was to
fly, would that worry you?
Laura: well yeah because they're not supposed to be.
Tia: yeah, I know.
(Laura starts laughing)
Tia: okay, let's be serious and answer some
questions.
Laura: well let me think of some good questions
here. It hasn't been that long since we've done
this. I was curious the other night that one of you
mentioned the fact that when Mark's aura and my aura
mix together they sizzle?
Tia: uh-huh.
Laura: what do you mean by that or what did they
mean by that?
Tia: yes, it was mentioned the other day and I have
the same problem. It's kind of interacting when the
aura tends to react to people it's been very close
to.
Laura: you mean that when Mark and I are together
then our energies kind of........
Tia: hmmm, react to each other.
Laura: good react or bad react? I hope it's good.
Tia: it's good.
Laura: oh, okay.
Tia: yeah, because an aura, a bad reaction from an
aura becomes......changes color and gets aggressive.
That's a bad reaction. An aura expands, gets real
strong and bright or it will shrink back and
conserve energy for other purposes.
Laura: for some odd reason, when we were together we
both........or I know I do, I get very I call it
hypertension ad I've had to learn to control this
because at first I couldn't figure out what was
going on. I get really shaky and I want to move
around a lot and.......
Tia: agitated.
Laura: right.
Tia: uh-huh.
Laura: right, right, right. My entities would go, my
guardians, whatever you would like to call them
would kind of go........they'd sit back and watch
but......
Tia: see how you're going to handle it.
Laura: yes. But I enjoy the feedback I get from Mark
and Russ.....
Tia: uh-huh.
Laura: so I have somebody to talk about........they
have the same feelings more or less how I feel when
it comes to things like this.
Tia: uh-huh.
Laura: my husband is just.......he tries to
understand, Skip does, but I know sometimes it's
very hard for him. And I know it's very hard for him
trying to understand the relationship with Mark and
I.
Tia: uh-huh, yeah. I should imagine it would be.
I've been trying hard to understand your species,
sometimes.
Laura: well the same thing with us. I know it's our
own species, it's still.....
Tia: yeah, it's like male and a female seem to be
two totally different species sometimes.
Laura: it's hard to find somebody that you can
totally relate to.........
Tia: uh-huh.
Laura: of the opposite sex without having......
Tia: yes.
Laura: the sexual thing you know.
Tia: uh-huh.
Laura: and I enjoy that.
Tia: uh-huh, it's good to have that.
Laura: I don't feel a man and women should have to
have sex, I think that you should be able to be
friends too.
Tia: uh-huh.
Laura: and I do know that my entities have sometimes
come out and said things to Mark that he's kind of
wondered about at times.
Tia: yes.
Laura: and then when I get done I think, "now why
did I say that?"
Tia: uh-huh. Yeah, I do that to Mark sometimes too.
Do you know what soul twins are?
Laura: yes.
Tia: uh-huh. That's what Mark and myself are.
Laura: that's what Mark what?
Tia: that's what Mark and myself are.
Laura: oh.
Tia: well actually, we're not soul twins, we're soul
triplets which is very rare.
Laura: oh?
Tia: and the other part of the triplet set is Kiri.
Laura: oh.
Tia: uh-huh.
Laura: well I'm still waiting to find mine.
Tia: I can't make any predictions.
Laura: I know. I've been told, I'm saying I've been
told that it's coming.
Tia: uh-huh.
Laura: well, it's going to be at least a couple
years before I can do anything.
(We hear a bang)
Tia: did I do that?
Laura: I think you hit the pyramid with your
toe......
Tia: oh.
Laura: with Mark's toe, however you want to put it.
Tia: I didn't damage it.
Laura: no.
Tia: oh.
Laura: it's fine.
Tia: okay.
Laura: it's in good shape.
Tia: right, hmmm. I'm going to show off.
Laura: what are you going to do?
Tia: I'm going to do what Kiri does sometimes.
Laura: what's that?
Tia: she gets up and walks.
Laura: oh.
Tia: and I can do it too. I'm not as good as she is.
Laura: you're still learning.
Tia: yeah, that's right. I got myself all awkward
now.
Laura: uh-huh.
Tia: that's better.
Laura: I thought you were going to try, huh?
Tia: no, I can do it and then I play with the cats.
I'll chase them away and actually physically chase
them.
Laura: oh.
Tia: yeah, with this body of Mark's. He complains
and says that his knees get beaten up.
Laura: that's what he was telling me.
Tia: uh-huh.
Laura: this is nice, you know?
Tia: uh-huh.
Laura: nobody else here.
Tia: yeah, you can see me as I really am.
Laura: yes, we should do this more often.
Tia: one-on-one channelings?
Laura: just a small group. It's very interesting and
a certain people is a skeptic.
Tia: yeah, notice that Don's aura, what would be the
best way to describe it? Was poor.
(Laura chuckles at that)
Laura: yeah and then we're talking about auras and I
was curious as I was told that the aura I
see...............(it's hard to make out the rest)
Tia: hmm, well it depends on how each individual
sees them.
Laura: well I have never seen a regular aura. The
auras I see are different.
Tia: uh-huh.
Laura: and that of my husband I see that.
Tia: yes and he told Mark off one time about this as
well.
Laura: well I've done that a couple of times.....
Tia: yeah.
Laura: because he doesn't take care of himself and
then I get upset with him.
Tia: well I can help you with that.
Laura: good. Well I got upset with him.
Tia: yeah, uh-huh. He pushes himself too hard.
Laura: yes, he needs the rest.
Tia: yes. When he goes shopping, it's funny
actually, you see me in the back of his head going,
chicken, frozen vegetables, stuff for sandwiches
that aren't really that good for you. Things like
mayonnaise and eggs, all bad things and then he gets
to the vegetable section and I go shopping. Oranges,
bananas, fresh carrots, garlic.....
Laura: uh-huh.
Tia: we go past the pharmacy section.
Laura: uh-huh.
Tia: and things like garlic capsules, all herbs and
spices all good for him.
Laura: uh-huh. Well I'm basically over fifty but
since I started taking that plus the extra calcium I
feel a whole lot better.
Tia: yeah.
Laura: a whole lot better.
Tia: did you know I was fifty?
Laura: no. Oh yeah, I have another.........I'll be
forty-nine in October.
Tia: oh. Well, I'm only twenty-three in your years,
twenty-four. And Kiri, she's fifty-seven I think in
your years.
Laura: she's older than I am.
Tia: yeah, but Sirians tend to live for oh, close to
a thousand years.
Laura: oh my goodness.
Tia: yeah. So she looks about twenty, twenty-one.
Laura: uh-huh.
Tia: I'm fortunate, my race lives about a hundred
and fifty of your years, two hundred?
Laura: so your race is long-lived.
Tia: yeah. But up here, being on Hades Base, I'm
fortunate I've got access to rejuvenations.
Laura: ahhh.
Tia: so probably, maybe five, six hundred of your
years?
Laura: if you were immortal there wouldn't be the
children.
Tia: that's right, it's a two-edged sword.
Laura: yeah, children are very important.
Tia: uh-huh. You see, Sirians don't really start
breeding until they're about fifty of your years.
Before that there are incapable. Not incapable, but
it's harmful for them to have children before they
reach their right maturity.
Laura: well with us too but they still do it.
Tia: uh-huh. A young Sirian when she gets pregnant,
it tends to be painful for her.
Laura: oh.
Tia: that's why it's a big taboo. I mean they're
allowed to have sex but they're not allowed to get
pregnant.
Laura: I hope you have some type of protection.
Tia: oh, we've got better protection then you could
possibly imagine.
Laura: yeah, our scare right now is the AIDS.
Tia: yes but that's a natural thing.
Laura: it's been going on for hundreds and hundreds
of years. It just now that they know what it is.
Tia: well I'm going to hand over to Omal and then
I'll be back as I'm ring mistress.
Laura: okay.
Tia: just the three of us and Kiri is still in
communication with Korton. It looks like she's
pleading her case.
Laura: okay.
Tia: okay. I've got to get comfortable here.
Laura: uh-hmm.
SIDE
ONE ENDS
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SIDE TWO
(Omal comes on for his time
channeling)
Omal: greetings and felicitations Laura.
Laura: greetings.
Omal: greetings.
Laura: we are here by ourselves tonight.
Omal: yes, we noticed. You have some
questions for me? Sorry I sound a little bit
in a hurry. I am not.
Laura: oh? Yeah, it's just kind of a
laid-back situation tonight.
Omal: what is laid-back?
Laura: relaxed. I basically came up to be
with my grandkids and spend some time with
them at home and away from the energy
drainage of my husband.
Omal: yes, we did note that he is still
draining. Has he done anything with your
feline?
Laura: no. Skip doesn't, how do I put this?
Omal: he lacks the self courage to overcome.
He has become used to draining people's
energies.
Laura: sometimes I think that right now
that's his only way of surviving.
Omal: it is a possibility, yes.
Laura: because he has no energy of his own
so he has to draw from other people.
Omal: uh-huh. It is possible that he is a
psychic vampire? Feeding on other people's
energy to keep himself alive. It is also
possible that the only energy that works for
him is human energy. That feline and plant
energy would not suffice.
Laura: I don't think he would understand
about anything.
Omal: no.
Laura: Skip he has a problem understanding a
lot of this reality. He's new to this world.
Omal: yes. We have noticed that he has a
very youthful aura.
Laura: yes, he's very much so as you
noticed. Sixty of our years and he is still
very childish at times. I've been with him
now going on fifteen years and he was like
that before.
Omal: uh-huh. It is a way of telling
somebody's age in past lives is by the way
they behave.
Laura: from what I understand this is his
first life.
Omal: yes, we noticed that his aura is a
youthful aura.
Laura: uh-huh.
Omal: whereas yours is quite an ancient aura
and Russ's is you would say almost
a.......how would you say that when somebody
is very, very old?
Laura: well basically he's just an old life
form. An old spirit or an old entity or
however you want to say it.
Omal: yes and Mark has the same sort of
aura.
Laura: uh-huh.
Omal: that it is a very ancient aura.
Laura: mine's quite old and has been quite
active.
Omal: yes. It has enjoyed itself
tremendously in the past.
Laura: it has. Sometimes I wonder what
happened to that. I know I'm not supposed to
be doing that now.
Omal: no, we do not understand the moral
issues on that sort of thing.
Laura: is it just something that's natural
on the earth?
Omal: Sirians, they do not distinguish
between male and female when it comes to
pleasure. It is for pleasure only, not for
breeding.
Laura: uh-huh.
Omal: so therefore they do not see it as
something of importance. It doesn't matter
if it's a girl and a girl or a guy and a
guy. It is totally unimportant to them
because they are giving pleasure to each
other.
Laura: see, we tend to frown on the same
species in that situation. To us it's a more
natural thing.
Omal: Kiri for example, she enjoys it both
ways and there is nothing wrong with that.
Laura: we had differences of opinion on that
down here.
Omal: yes, we are aware of this occurrence.
Unfortunately, I have difficulty
understanding it sometimes.
Laura: well so do we and it is our species.
I was curious to know that the auras that I
see are neither male or female. Now do you
see that around my husband? I saw yellow
spots on his aura.
Omal: yes.
Laura: but I'd like to hear it myself
exactly what this means. I mean I know......
Omal: it is not a good sign.
Laura: well I figured that. I think I wanted
to hear it, you know?
Omal: if I say what it is then I would be
committing the same sin that Kiri.......
Laura: I don't want you to do that but I do,
I understand.
Omal: but we did tell you how to combat it.
Laura: which he will not do. I know that he
won't be able to. We tried and tried he does
not take care of himself and when I'm not
around he turns totally gray. Excuse me, not
only is aura but his complexion, everything
goes and that bothers me sometimes.
Omal: uh-huh.
Laura: my guides have told me that I need to
look at his passing on.
Omal: it is necessary to make arrangements
for your next steps.
Laura: so basically his passing on is for my
next steps. Well it's for his too isn't it?
Omal: yes. That he will be reborn to a new
life. I don't know if he has already decided
in his subconscious what he wants to do in
his next life. How it will benefit him.
Laura: Skip has a problem with decisions.
Omal: then he will be put in a position
where a decision would be made for him.
Laura: we have had arguments over him not
making a decision.
Omal: yes. He lacks the necessary
compunction to grab hold of the proverbial
hands and hold on.
Laura: he's okay as far as his work goes but
when it comes to reality in everyday life
it's really hard for him.
Omal: what is reality?
Laura: well our reality is like say it
happened one time we were in a car to go see
a daughter of ours and he could not make a
decision on which road to take, which
highway. He wanted me to make the decision
and when I refused to do so he got very
angry at me.
Omal: uh-huh. Yes, we use the term reality
very carefully here because there are so
many different realities.
Laura: hmm. Our reality here is what is
happening here.
Omal: yes.
Laura: now, not something in your mind.
Omal: right. Or something that is written in
the paper.
Laura: right.
Omal: or something that is happening in a
parallel universe.
Laura: uh-huh.
Omal: it is why we sometimes have difficulty
with when somebody says reality.
Laura: oh, okay. Well he has a problem with
what is happening on a day-to-day basis as
far as making decisions. And sometimes I get
very impatient with him because I get tired
of having to make all the decisions.
Omal: why are you a little bit tense at
present.
Laura: it bothers me when I talk about this
because I do care for him. I'm not in love
with Skip but I love him. I mean he's like
a.....
Omal: a very good friend.
Laura: yes, right. But I can't talk to him
like I can like Mark and Russ because he
doesn't seem to grasp what I'm saying.
Omal: remember a while back when we told you
that part of your lesson was to learn
patience and understanding?
Laura: yeah.
Omal: that is why Skip is breathing (?)
Laura: yeah, I understand. It's just hard to
cope with sometimes. And also........
Omal: perhaps somebody ought to put cotton
wool on the feline's paws.
Laura: what do you mean, I don't understand?
Omal: the feline above. Jumping on the
ground? On the ceiling, there is a feline
above?
Laura: oh, yeah. It's glad to stay up there
because I don't want......
Omal: no, I am saying that it needs cotton
wool.
Laura: yes, it does, definitely. Another
question I was curious about, Mark and I all
of a sudden......
Omal: uh-huh.
Laura: that it's kind of strange that we
need to go down to Sedona and finding out it
appears we need to go together.
Omal: it is for a learning experience that
will occur.
Laura: for both of us or one of us?
Omal: both of you.
Laura: for both of us. It's like I told
Mark, I don't think it's going to be for a
couple years yet.
Omal: when you have the correct amount of
your......
Laura: financial?
Omal: yes. There and then it will be the
correct time. Everything happens at its own
set pace.
Laura: yeah, that's what I told him, that
when it's time it will come. It was just
really strange that both of us, boom, we hit
on that.
Omal: yeah.
Laura: it's just really fascinating that we
realized that we communicate that well with
each other.
Omal: it is necessary sometimes for people
that have worked together in the past to
proceed on plans that were made previously.
Other lives.
Laura: so in other words, Mark and I have
been together before and done this together
before?
Omal: yes.
Laura: oh, that's interesting.
Omal: you see, souls tend to travel in
groups.
Laura: uh-huh.
Omal: so that when you meet somebody, it may
be late in your life or it may be early in
your life and they're only with you for a
short time. A span of maybe five to ten
years. And then lay the path and they go on
to a different path.
Laura: well I'm hoping that he and I will
never lose the communication and keep in
touch even though we might not be living
close together. You know, because I know we
enjoy each other's company. Or I do.
Omal: well I cannot speak for Mark.
Laura: I know you can't. I'm just going by
how I feel.
Omal: if I did rummage around inside this
gray matter here I might be able to find the
answer.
Laura: uh-huh.
Omal: but it tends to leave him a little bit
disoriented when he comes back.
Laura: yeah he tends to be that way anyway
because all the information and confusion in
his mind is kind of scrambled together.
Omal: well what he does is a very rare
trick. Tia will be relaying information for
this. Is that he has a very, very rare gift.
Not only does he astral travel, not only can
he travel into our dimension, but when he
returns back, he can stay here for as long
as he wishes and then he comes back half an
hour to an hour later on your time. So what
he actually does is he manipulates the
fourth dimension which is time.
Laura: oh.
Omal: I don't think he knows how he does it,
most people that can do this do not. But it
is a very rare thing, a very rare
capability.
Laura: now was he chosen to do this as a
learning process?
Omal: I think he has been working on it for
many lives.
Laura: oh, okay.
Omal: it is a very useful trick but it has
its own price.
Laura: yes? I'm not quite sure what the
price it is.
Omal: the price is an acceleration in (the
sound is lost here)
Omal: how is your mode of transportation?
Laura: well it's working. As long as it
continues to work for a while. I'm
not going to get stuck am I going down there?
Omal: nooo, you will not get stuck.
Laura: okay.
Omal: not this time.
Laura: oh thanks. Not this time. Well what's going
to happen? Well, I know you can't tell me.
Omal: well we can tell on fields of improbability.
Laura: probability, is that car going to do me
until at least I can get rid of it?
Omal: the probability is about eighty.........no,
the probability is about 60%. We lack necessary
data to make a good speculation on the survival of
your vehicle.
Laura: I just got the stupid thing paid off.
Omal: hmmm.
Laura: I'm going to end up having to make another
car payment?
Omal: again, I cannot say.
Laura: see, these are things are the reason I need
to see Rosie about and I know that the future is
very testy because of changes from one time to
another.
Omal: the way that the future works is certain
events can cause a break and............for
example, let's say your next election.
Laura: uh-huh.
Omal: you have your current president who is in
office.......
Laura: uh-huh.
Omal: you have the person running against him. You
have this person from Texas....
Laura: uh-huh.
Omal: that talks funny.
(Omal breaks into his best
Ross Perot impression)
Omal: that is "now,
now, just let me finish. I just want to say, I
just want to say, now you look at the chart".
(Laura chuckles)
Laura: uh-huh?
Omal: we find humor is necessary sometimes. You
have three possibilities there. Your current
person continues. The representative of the other
political organization gets elected, or this
person from Texas gets elected.
Laura: uh-huh.
Omal: you have three set possibilities. In one of
your futures you have your current one elected. In
another future you have the one for representing
of the other political interests and in another
future you have this person from Texas. All three
can occur but in different parallel universes they
split off at that point from the central one.
Laura: so another words, basically what we're
seeing, what with living now, someone else ahead
of us is still living is going about their time.
Omal: yes but it is not set in stone. What I'm
saying is, it is like a timeline? You know what
timelines are?
Laura: uh-huh.
Omar with branches off like a tree?
Laura: uh-huh.
Omar and you may be on one the limbs of the time
tree.
Laura: so we're not the only.....
Omal: no, you are not the only ones that are
living....
Laura: I was always wondering about that.
Omal: there are so many different fluctuations
that it is many, many timelines going on all at
the same time.
Laura: oh, okay. And that's the reason we have a
tendency to see what I guess we would call
spirits.
Omal: uh-huh.
Laura: even of those that have passed, we've
stayed and have passed on, they're just living
another dimension yet they make themselves known
to us occasionally.
Omal: yes.
Laura: I come in here by myself or with Mark and
relax. I don't have the energy levels
sometimes......
Omal: clap your hands.
Laura: I know, build up my energy.
Omal: yes. No, no, no, clap your hands.
Laura: clap them?
Omal: yes.
(Laura begins to clap her hands)
Omal: now take a deep breath. Okay, you are a
manifestor, are you not?
Laura: yes I am, I have to be very careful.
Omal: yes. Kiri's son is also manifestor. We need
to teach him that fire is dangerous.
Laura: yes.
Omal: I am also a manifestor.
Laura: well I have a problem sometimes that I have
to be very careful because I can cause harm....
Omal: uh-huh.
Laura: and damage.
Omal: yes, that is not a good thing.
Laura: no.
Omal: for protection of your family unit, you have
to be careful on how you use it.
Laura: well yeah. Because I know that when I get
angry I've learned to curb this. That I caused
harm not only physically but mentally to someone
also and it seems to run very strong in the women
of my family.
Omal: I assume that your daughters also have this
gift.
Laura: yes.
Omal: although one is afraid of it.
Laura: yes she is, she's afraid. And she has been
raised.....
Omal: with it.
Laura: with it.
Omal: yes.
Laura: why she has a fear of it I don't know. I
think she's learning to come to terms with it.
Omal: it is the unknowns for her. She has a
scientific mind.
Laura: yes she does.
Omal: and everything has a very rational
explanation. This is not the case. To quote one of
your writers of the late 16th century, "there are
stranger things in heaven and earth than you have
dreamt of in your philosophy Horatio".
Laura: uh-huh.
Omal: and this is very true.
Laura: you would think though with her experiences
that she's had with entities.
Omal: uh-huh.
Laura: because we've had some doozies of
experiences with myself and my girls that she
would have accepted this. Whether she likes it or
not, you know I'm saying?
Omal: yes, it is sometimes that it is a very scary
experience that she wishes to shut out. Things
bopping around tend to be scary for an immature
mind.
Laura: well she's a very lovable and very sweet
and beautiful young lady.....
Omal: uh-huh.
Laura: and I hope eventually she finds herself and
what she wants.
Omal: she is going to tell you it in her own way
by working in a place of where the people when
they no longer need.......
Laura: their spirit.
Omal: where the spirits no longer need their
bodies.
Laura: yeah, I think that's why she chose the
profession because she's very good at it.
Omal: do not worry, she's a female.
(Laura speaks between laughter)
Laura: that's okay.
Omal: okay, next question?
Laura: oh....
Omal: would you wish me to hand back to another
descendant.
Laura: well I don't know, I'm just at a loss for
questions. I kind of want Mark to help me a little
bit more on channeling. I would prefer you or
Korton to do this. Not tonight, I'm too tired
tonight. I don't know if I'm tired, I'm just a
very relaxed mood. I'm more or less coming to
terms with myself in my situation.
Omal: yes, Kiri was very, what is the word? Very
brave.
Laura: she did very well tonight.
Omal: no, that was Tia.
Laura: oh, that was Tia.
Omal: yes, Kiri was being very brave when she
helped you to channel.
Laura: that's what Mark said. She did very well.
My energy level wasn't at its best because I
wasn't feeling well but I at least wanted to try.
Omal: there was also the draining.
Laura: yes. What a drain, why did it drain so
much?
Omal: the fact that your body is not accustomed to
it.
Laura: hmmm.
Omal: also the fact that there was a draining
influence in the room.
Laura: my husband? So in other words, I shouldn't
even try to channel with him around?
Omal: not until you get more experience. You need
to build up stamina.
Laura: how I do that?
Omal: hmmm......
Laura: ask.......
Omal: your lady friend Rosie.
Laura: okay.
Omal: tell her that you have channeled.
Laura: uh-huh.
Omal: explain to her that you were tired
afterwards.
Laura: yes, yes.
Omal: that Skip is a draining influence and ask
her for help in protecting yourself because we
know that when you are not in an area like
this.....
Laura: uh-huh.
Omal: this pyramid......
Laura:: uh-huh.
Omal: you are not protected. In here, there is not
very much that can cause you harm.
Laura: why is it that when I'm around Mark I feel
very energetic and like we were on the phone and
like that I'm very mellow. I feel good tonight, I
feel very relaxed. I don't have any big draining
either.
Omal: what did Rosie say about his aura? She said
that he had a very powerful aura, very bright.
Laura: yes, very strong, very energetic. That
supposedly goes into me or.......?
Omal: yes. It goes back to crackling auras. It
energizes you because he is such a powerful aura.
It also goes with the fact that he can do what
would you call them, time jumps? When he travels
to our dimension and he comes back an hour later
having been up here twelve hours.
Laura: yeah. I guess you could call that time
travel.
Omal: yeah. But as I said, there is a price.
Laura: uh-huh.
Omal: and I think he's starting to find out what
that price is.
Laura: hmm, does he know that though?
Omal: I think.....
Laura: has he realized it yet?
Omal: I think he is smart enough to realize it.
Laura: oh, okay. I know he's taught me a lot. I
guess.....
Omal: you're not inclined to astral travel at
present. You still have that fear.
Laura: I am afraid, I don't know why, I have this
thing of heights and to me astral traveling is
heights. It's just a fear that I have always had.
Omal: in this life.
Laura: in this life. I guess it comes from
something that must have happened another time.
Omal: one should not lean out over tall buildings.
Laura: well that I know so I have
a....yeah....yeah......that's probably what
happened. Because when I get on a height, in a
high place and I get close to an edge I have a
feeling I want to jump.
Omal: uh-huh. It is very unadvisable.
Laura: so I just don't do that.
Omal: it's survival that you do not put yourself
in a situation where that would occur. But astral
travel is different.
Laura: uh-huh.
Omar there are many types of astral travel.
Laura: uh-huh.
Omal: there is just where you see things like
watching one of your entertainments that you have
in your houses.
Laura: uh-huh.
Omal: or there is another one when you can
actually see and feel yourself.
Laura: uh-huh, I've done that one before, it's
scary.
Omal: it is an unusual experience. And there is
one where you can feel other people's energies.
Laura: well I do that all the time.
Omal: uh-huh, but from outside your body.
Laura: uh-huh, I don't think I've done that.
Omal: there is another one where you can enter
into the other way.
Laura: I did that.....
Omal: when you weren't very well.
Laura: during my surgeries?
Omal: uh-huh.
Laura: it was beautiful.
Omal: yes, nice woodland scenes. Everybody has
their own different version.
Laura: why was mine in yellow meadows?
Omal: meadows springs to mind.....
Laura: yeah.
Omal: with yellow butterflies?
Laura: some type of yellow flower. All I know is
it was very relaxing and I think that's what
brought me through it.
Omal: it is a way of soothing oneself.
Laura: I think because I was scared, I was in bad
shape. Another thing that got me was waking up and
finding myself talking to entities in my room. I
was told that I was trying to make a decision at
that time.
Omal: yes, you made the right decision.
Laura: I think so, I think......yeah.
Omal: because although your species does not put
much store in this, duty, you are very important
part of your existence.
Laura: yeah, I was tired though. I'm not allowing
that anymore which is hard for me because it's a
lesson I'm having to learn.
Omal: yes.
Laura: and also I need to learn to ask for help.
Omal: yes, that is what we are here for.
Laura: my entities, my entities have helped me.
Omal: when I say that's what we are here for I
mean.....
Laura: all of you.
Omal: yes.
Laura: which makes it nice to know that I have, I
know that I have one and I find I have four.
Omal: yes, buffaloes.
Laura: yes, they are. Sometimes he comes on really
strong when he's close.
Omal: yes, big, white buffaloes are best with no
nasty, sharp pointed teeth.
Laura: well it's not that, it's the aroma.
Omal: yes.
Laura: sometimes his aroma gets strong. Doesn't
happen very often but......
Omal: hold on a second, I need to make it, try to
make it so I can get better physical.....
Laura: okay.
Omal: there, I have it on a better leg.
Laura: they are my, what would I say? They are my
my security.
Omal: yes and he is creating the breeze as well.
Laura: he's creating a breeze?
Omal: yes, there is a cooling sensation around the
feet.
Laura: yes there is, even on mine and I have socks
on. Why are we having this breeze?
Omal: because he is interested.
Laura: that's because I asked him to help me.
Omal: yes.
Laura: like I said, that's my security.
Omal: yes, we are not a harmful species.
Laura: well it was just a surprise when I found
out that I had this. Took me a while to get use to
that.
Omal: hmm. It is something that is useful to have
and it makes a good guardian.
Laura: well I learned a lot and realized a lot
when I had the surgery and after I had the surgery
to ask for help when try to do it all myself.
Omal: okay, I will hand back to the rambunctious
feline.
Laura: okay, well then we have to cut short
because I have to leave here pretty soon and I
would like to talk to Mark for a little while.
Omal: okay. From your entertainment, live long and
prosper.
(Laura laughs at that)
Laura: thank you, I can do that too.
Omal: Omal to enterprise, one to beam up.
(Tia
gets us to the end of the session)
Laura: well?
Tia: well, yes, he does that. It is his attempt at
humor.
Laura: sorry, he did very well.
Tia: uh-huh yes, his searching for the words.....
Laura: Spock.
Tia: yes.
Laura: yes, Spock.
Tia: yes, it was introduced up here. I've seen all
of them, you know.
Laura: oh you have?
Tia: uh-huh, even the movies.
Laura: I was going to ask if you had seen the
movies.
Tia: uh-huh.
Laura: I enjoyed the movies.
Tia: yeah. Yes, it was brought up here like the
Star Wars was brought up here.
Laura: I enjoyed the one, especially about when
Spock was reborn.
Tia: uh-huh, yeah, In Search of Spock.
Laura: so...
Tia: oh, I say.
Laura: what'd you see?
Tia: what do I see? I see a Buffalo. Can't you
feel it?
Laura: I feel it all the time.
Tia: uh-huh.
Laura: I feel my entities all the time.
Tia: he's right there.
Laura: my alien.
Tia: uh-huh.
Laura: he stands back and watches me.
Tia: yes.
Laura: he's there.
Tia: yes.
Laura: he's in my corner.
Tia: I've seen him.
Laura: have you?
Tia: uh-huh. Aliens might tend to do that. They're
not harmful or anything, they're just very
inquisitive. They don't understand.....
Laura: they been with me a long time.......
Tia: uh-huh.
Laura: observing.
Tia: uh-huh. I have been observing you also.
Laura: oh.
Tia: yeah, your........you ladies tend to be
subservient to your males and that to me is very
limiting.
Laura: we don't like it. I don't know if it's in
the genes or if it's something that we have
just.....
Tia: uh-huh, I find it hard, you know?
Laura: we have a tendency.......I have a tendency
of being able to fight this.
Tia: yeah.
Laura: and........what's the matter?
Tia: I was just thinking of women that used to
have their own tribe?
Laura: the Amazons.
Tia: yes.
Laura: I have definitely thought about it except
I'm not tall enough.
Tia: well maybe not in......
Laura: yes, we are now starting to fight this.
Well, the American women, a lot of us, most of us
are.......
Tia: yeah.
Laura: are continuing to fight this dominancy of
the men.
Tia: uh-huh.
Laura: and it's really, it's really very hard for
the men to......
Tia: yes, even to running your country.
Laura: yes.
Tia: how is your president Hillary?
Laura: I would say she's doing well.
Tia: that was a question from Kiri.
Laura: oh. I would say she's doing well.
Tia: okay, well you've got things to do, haven't
you?
Laura: yes.
Tia: uh-huh.
Laura: I'd like to talk to Mark and visit with him
for a little while.
Tia: uh-huh.
Laura: and before I leave I have to say good
night.
Tia: good night. Enjoy, well you've seen me as I
really am.
Laura: I have totally enjoyed this.
Tia: yes. I'm not used to big groups. I know it's
not a big group. Anyway......
Laura: I shall say good night and we shall see you
again.
Tia: okay. I'll drop by.
Laura: all right, you do that.
Tia: yeah.
Laura: no problem.
Tia: anyway, I'm off.
Laura: good night.
Tia: I'm out of here. Bye.
Laura: bye.
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