Laura's Solo Session and the Nature of Reality-

Channeled (08/17/1992)

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Archivist Notes: We get 2024 off to a start with a rare private channeling session with a friend of ours named Laura. Tia is the night's ring mistress and is also the only speaker on side one. Tia is her typical vibrant self we are used to after getting shy and bashful at a crowded session the week before when Ashtar made an appearance. The conversation turns to a description gives of herself and her third dimensional home planet of Durondedunn. It's a race of beings descended from cats and run as a matriarchal society. We find that her race is about two hundred years ahead of ours technically and have established colonies on other planets in their solar system. In noting her PK ability and the benefits it brings Tia, we find that Laura too has hidden skills she had let atrophy. She seems to have used coercion or far sighting during card games as a youth to know a player's cards ahead of time. It was an important time in Tia's life as we find out she was moving into Korton's department for data analysis. She would run the department in later years. From there we return to the subject of Tia's home planets and pets they have there such as what would be best described as a flying kitten with four wings. We move on to relationships and Laura's friendship with Mark and how their aura's interact when close together. Tia then relates how she, Kiri and Mark share a soul in a very rare combination of a triplet soul. She reveals that part of that relationship includes her being able to influence Mark when he is shopping to focus more on healthy additions. We end the side with her explaining that her being on the base with its higher technology means she will live a far longer life and how Sirians can only get pregnant after reaching a particular age of maturity to avoid a very serious birth.

Omal gets side two started discussing Laura's husband, Skip, someone who would be a guest at many a future channeling session. We discover that Skip as a tendency to drain energy from other people including his wife and that habit would be addressed in later sessions. For now it was still a problem until they had him develop his mental shielding but this is also where we learn this is Skip's first life on this planet. We know from previous sessions his last life been on a planet with huge trees. The conversation continues on to Laura's being able to see auras and how the yellow spots she had seen on Skip's aura signaled problems in the future. Omal cautions that she may need to prepare for his passing but he would still be at channeling sessions for years to come. The topic comes up of Mark's rare ability to astral travel to their higher dimension and then manipulate the fourth dimension on the way back so that he is only left for an hour here but had been on the base for twelve hours. We also discover there's a cost to that gift in that it would shorten his life. A stray comment about the understanding of reality generates an explanation of reality from Omal where he defines it very simply using the upcoming presidential election and the various outcomes as all happening at once. One of the problems Laura was having at the time within her astral projection. We find out it's her fear of heights that was holding her back so Omal as some good advice to help her get over that. One of the surprising elements of Laura's time talking comes at the end with Omal where he reveals that Laura's spirit animal was in the room causing a breeze. That animal it turns out was a white buffalo who had taken an interest in the channeling session. Omal signs off with what would come to be his trademark "live long and prosper". Tia ends the session in the short time left with her revelation that she had watched both the Star Wars and Star Trek movies up on the base despite the difference in dimensions and planets.       

In love, light, and wisdom as one,
Russ and Karra

TIA- Ring Mistress


1.)(0:00)- Tia has a one-on-one chat with our guest during a solo session including a description of her home plant of Durondedunn. We also hear of some of the benefits between the 3rd and 6th dimensions.


1.)(0:00)- Omal and Laura discuss her husband Skip who would become a very important guest in later years. He also explains the way reality works in a very simplified manner that makes it easy to grasp.
2.)(31:08)- In the four minutes left on the tape, Tia reveals that she has been able to watch all the Star Trek and Star Wars movies on the base. We go over as well Laura's guides which includes a white buffalo.

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(Tia gets an unusual night off to a start as ring mistress) 

Laura: hello.

Tia: hi.

Laura: how are you this evening? Full of it.

Tia: uh-huh. yes, this is the real me, not all shy and bashful and.......all those people.

Laura: ahh, but they're good people.

Tia: they're strangers to me.

Laura: well, they wouldn't be strangers if you'd come out and to get to know them.

Tia: yeah, that's kinda.....

Laura: kind of true?

Tia: hmmm, you're a different species than me.

Laura: why?

Tia: you're all taller than me.

Laura: I know, but you've been with Mark for a long time so you should be kind of used to Mark and Russ.

Tia: yeah, but it still frightens me, strange people.

Laura: so you've been with Skip and I now two or three times.

Tia: uh-huh, yeah.

Laura: well Donna was new and Bonnie was new......

Tia: uh-huh.

Laura: but you had more friends here then you did strangers.

Tia: but l'm not used to it. I haven't been doing it for years and years and years and years and years like Kiri or Omal or Korton or even Karra.

Laura: yeah, how's she doing?

Tia: oh, she's doing fine. Which one?

Laura: Karra.

Tia: Karra. Oh yeah, she's doing fine.

Laura: she's still in trouble?

Tia: she's never in trouble.

Laura: oh, which one's in trouble?

Tia: oh, Kiri.

Laura: Kiri.

Tia: uh-huh.

Laura: okay.

Tia: yeah, she's still in trouble. She still in doo doo up to here.

Laura: so when is she supposed to be out of this trouble?

Tia: I don't know. You'll have to talk to Korton.

Laura: oh, that should be interesting.

Tia: uh-huh.

Laura: at least you're more vibrant tonight.

Tia: yeah, this is the real me. I'm behaving myself.

Laura: uh-huh.

Tia: Kiri is wearing...... (Incomprehensible)

Laura: I heard that.

Tia: uh-huh.

Laura: yes.

Tia: it's a leather bikini.

Laura: yes.

Tia: that would look nice on me sometime but no, not tonight.

Laura: not tonight? What are you going to do tonight?

Tia: I'm going to sit here and answer your questions.

Laura: oh, I have a few little questions.

Tia: uh-huh.

Laura: I'm curious to know how Mark and I came up with the fact that we need to go to Sedona together, why?

Tia: best bet is to ask Omal about that or Kiri if Kiri is going to channel. She's in communications with Korton.

Laura: oh, is she?

Tia: uh-huh. You've got to remember, I'm just a humble astral traveler.

Laura: oh, I need to ask the entity himself then.

Tia: the entity himself? That's a strange way of describing his name.

Laura: I don't know how else to describe him.

Tia: which one?

Laura: well Korton or Omal or.......

Tia: or Ashtar?

Laura: Ashtar, yeah. See, he did come the other night which I.......

Tia: I tried to warn you guys. I said be careful.

Laura: I was very impressed. I was very honored that he came.

Tia: very intimidating, isn't he?

Laura: wasn't to me. I think he was to everybody else but he wasn't to me.

Tia: uh-huh. Well Russ does tend to make you feel like....

Laura: a young kid.

Tia: uh-huh.

Laura: and it's hard to intimidate me anyway but I know the others were......

Tia: yeah, it's functioning properly.

Laura: is it okay?

Tia: yeah, it's fine.

Laura: okay.

Tia: fine and dandy.

Laura: good, I'm glad. So, I don't know, it's just kind of a sit back night I guess.

Tia: oh, kick back, lay back, be cool, be hip.

Laura: yeah. A few things I'd like to know, really know.........

(Tia sees one of our house cats nearby)

Tia: what is that yellow mass? Oh, I see.

Laura: he's going to get up and jump away here soon.

Tia: oooohhhhh.

Laura: ooohhhhh?

Tia: yes, we have boxing matches sometimes.

Laura: yes?

Tia: I've got it functioning properly reasonably well.

Laura: you sure?

Tia: oh, nah, lost it. Oh well.

Laura: well I was just curious seeing how it's just me here now.

Tia: uh-huh.

Laura: there he goes.

Tia: hhhhhhh.

Laura: oh, my cat does the same thing. She really gets me good sometimes.

Tia: Mark had cuts all over when he came back.

Laura: surprise, surprise.

Tia: yeah, Russ had to tell him that I was hunting Calvin.

Laura: that you were what?

Tia: hunting Calvin.

Laura: oh.

Tia: that's Calvin.

Laura: is that Calvin?

Tia: yeah.

Laura: yeah, he's like Mindy.

Tia: uh-huh.

Laura: he likes to play rough.

Tia: uh-huh, yeah, I noticed that. Yeah, she plays rough.

Laura: yes she does.

Tia: uh-huh, I was watching the other day.

Laura: were you?

Tia: uh-huh.

Laura: she likes to tweak out and when I know she starts tweaking out or she bats me as I go by she wants to play.

Tia: yeah, I know all about cats. I'm descended from these type of felines. Not the big, ferocious ones but these little ones.

Laura: these little ones, huh?

Tia: that's why I'm so small.

Laura: hmmm.

Tia: and I'm tall for my race too.

Laura: are you really?

Tia: uh-huh. What am I in your measurements? Five foot one, five two?

Laura: well, you're about as tall as I am.

Tia: yeah.

Laura: I'm five three.

Tia: but for my race, yeah, I'm tall.

Laura: what are they usually?

Tia: they range from about four two to about four eight.

Laura: how did you get so tall?

Tia: well my father was tall. But he was only four eleven and a bit and I'm a little bit taller than he is. I don't know why.

Laura: hmm. Well we have that here too, it's ancestral that makes you small.

Tia: yeah, uh-huh. Best way to describe it is, I'm tall and skinny.

Laura: tall and skinny.

Tia: yeah, for my race.

Laura: one of these days it would be interesting to have you through Mark draw a picture of yourself.

Tia: I'm not good with balances. (?)

Laura: you're not?

Tia: yeah. But I have seen a picture....

Laura: uh-huh.

Tia: it looks a little like me.

Laura: uh-huh.

Tia: and it's on a plate. I'm strawberry blonde.

Laura: yeah?

Tia: it's not long and flowing like the plate.

Laura: the plate, there's a comparison there?

Tia: oh yeah, and it does curl at the bottom.

Laura: do you curl it or is it all natural?

Tia: it just curls by itself.

Laura: it just curls by itself, huh?

Tia: uh-huh.

Laura: see, you could do that, just draw a picture of yourself.

Tia: I'm not a very good artist. I can draw a picture of me in my hunting colors.

Laura: oh? How many colors do you go to?

Tia: I wear a brown, gray, and a tan color and it's all painted on. See, for my race it's a religious thing, hunting.

Laura: oh it is?

Tia: yeah, it's only we girls that go hunting, men aren't allowed.

Laura: why?

Tia: well on our planet, women were the dominant like your men are dominant?

Laura: uh-huh?

Tia: we did all the fighting and the hunting and the building and also having children as well and look after family.

Laura: and do your men resent that? Like women here resent the man being dominant.

Tia: no, it's their place, it's what they're more suited for. They're more agriculturally interested. Being stronger, they can do more construction. Building ships, building modes of transportation. They're much more suited for that instead of us women that go out and hunt or used to hunt.

Laura: oh, you don't do that anymore?

Tia: no, apart for the priestesses.

Laura: you have stores and stuff like we do?

Tia: uh-huh, yes. We have limited space travel and we can travel out to the edge of our solar system which is a little bit bigger than yours. And it takes us about two years to go out to the furthest planets so they're not more advanced than you.

Laura: hmmm, it would be interesting. Of course, I don't know if it's going to be in my timeline or whether I'll live to see that.

Tia: I don't really know how fast you're advancing. We're only like maybe two hundred years ahead of you.

Laura: really?

Tia: yeah.

Laura: oh, okay.

Tia: on some things we're further behind.

Laura: like what?

Tia: well we're still very feudalistic. Instead of being countries, its religious groups.

Laura: oh. Kind of like in Ireland.

Tia: hmmm.

Laura: Protestants and Catholics are fighting continuously and killing each other off.

Tia: yeah, Mark mentioned something about that. We don't have major wars or anything. Well not on our planet Durondedunn. But on the satellite planets there have been......hmmm. Anyway, you've got questions. I'm taking up your valuable time.

Laura: oh it's going to be a just kinda a laid-back session. You know, it's not really too involved.

Tia: what would you say, coolness.

Laura: yeah, more or less.

Tia: yeah.

Laura: yeah. I just needed to get away from home and thought I would be with my friends so I can get some feedback and have somebody to talk to me about something other than work.

Tia: okay, so what are you selling then?

Laura: what am I what? What am I saying?

Tia: selling.

Laura: what am I selling?

Tia: yeah I know, I'm teasing.

Laura: oh.

Tia: you wanted to not talk about work?

Laura: oh yes, well I'm a little slow tonight.

Tia: hmm.

Laura: selling clothes.

Tia: I said we weren't going to talk about that.

Laura: oh, I'm sorry. But you asked a question.

Tia: I know, I'm teasing you. You Earth people are so easy to tease sometimes.

Laura: I know and we're so quick to judge.

Tia: uh-huh. I like teasing Mark sometimes.

Laura: I don't know how long I'll be selling, I wish something would come up that I could really, really enjoy.

Tia: well, as I say, I don't look into the future, I'm just a humble astral traveler.

Laura: I know, astral traveler. That's interesting.

Tia: yeah, you wanted to know about astral travel, didn't you?

Laura: well yeah.

Tia: uh-huh.

Laura: I have a grandson. He's real young yet.

Tia: uh-huh. I heard about him.

Laura: yes, he's going to be coming home end the of the month and we need to sit down and start working with him.

Tia: well what I can do, if I can guess his mental signature, is I can go down and help him to astral travel in his dreams, you see.

Laura: uh-huh, he's a very confused little boy right now.

Tia: how come he's confused?

Laura: well, I guess it comes.......I could say comes a lot from me because it definitely doesn't come from his mother.

Tia: yeah, because she's a little bit disorganized.

Laura: yes, definitely. I'm the type of person that I have to be organized or I don't function very well.

Tia: uh-huh, yes, I wish Mark was like that. He can be very disorganized at times.

Laura: well we're all different down here.

Tia: me, I like everything nice, neat, clean, and tidy. I mean, look at this place. It needs vacuuming, it needs dusting, it needs quite a few other things done. I mean, you could polish up this pyramid thing here. You could get the windows clean............sorry.

Laura: I don't do windows either unless I have to.

Tia: well, I have a slight advantage. Not only am I an astral traveler......

Laura: hmmm.

Tia: I also have psychokinesis.

Laura: well that's cheating.

Tia: it's not, it makes life easy. It means that whilst I'm vacuuming, I can have something dusting at the same time.

Laura: that's true,
that's true.

Tia: uh-huh. Or I can pick up my children and move them out of the way.

Laura: that would be interesting to be able to do.

Tia: it takes a little bit of brain strain but not too much.

Laura: I used to use my mind to cheat at cards.

Tia: no, it's not cheating. It's called using all the possible advantages.

Laura: well, was I ever and I would just have so much fun because people could not understand how I could see what they were going to put down next........

Tia: uh-huh.

Laura: and go from there.

Tia: yes.

Laura: it was very interesting because all I had to do was put a mental picture in their head of what they had......

Tia: uh-huh.

Laura: and I was having fun.

Tia: it's as long as you use all available information.

Laura: uh-huh.

Tia: Kiri's pretty good at playing cards.

Laura: is she?

Tia: uh-huh.

Laura: I haven't played in years. It was just fun and games, it wasn't anything.

Tia: she's spent time playing things like poker. You got to make things like Ace, King, Queen, Jack, ten, or four fours or something like that.

Laura: yeah, I don't know much about poker.

Tia: she'd be getting people to discard cards that they need.

Laura: uh-huh.

Tia: I mean if you used farsighting. That's the problem of peeking through the cards but mind you, that's cheating but I don't stop anybody else from doing that.

Laura: but it's fun as long as you're not hurting anybody.

Tia: that's right. We don't play for money or anything.

Laura: no, you wouldn't have any anyway.

Tia: mind you, well we don't have money up here.

Laura: what do you do?

Tia: me? I'm a communication.......I analyze data, act as a relay, act as a storage for information. I've just been moved into Korton's department so I'm learning all new stuff. I wanted to work in the creche with my children.

Laura: in the crafts?

creche, daycare.

Laura: oh, okay.

Tia: nursery.

Laura: well I know but sometimes you need to get away from the children and have some time for yourself.

Tia: but they're my first ones.

Laura: I understand. I took on my second batch which are what we call grandchildren.

Tia: uh-huh, you wanted to be with your eldest all the time when you first had them.

Laura: I miss my children, our children are our best friends.

Tia: yeah, I know. I hate to leave them when I go to work but where I'll be working I'll be allowed to bring them with me.

Laura: oh that's true.

Tia: uh-huh.  Because Koton got himself a cat about oh, six months ago, a little kitten.

Laura: oh, how nice.

Tia: yeah, so his kitten wanders around all over the place and as my children are descended from cats they should get along pretty well then.

Laura: well they have a familiarity there.

Tia: uh-huh, they're familiar, yes.

Laura: I enjoyed my cats. I'm not one for dogs but I do enjoy cats.

Tia: dogs, huh. You know, you talk about hot dogs, on my planet they actually are real dogs.

Laura: oh really?

Tia: uh-huh.

Laura: how do you describe that?

Tia: how do you mean?

Laura: what do you mean? You said hot dogs are real dogs.

Tia: real dogs, that's what they're made of, sausages. They're made out of real, live canines, or real dead canines.

Laura: oh, yeah, that's gross.

Tia: why?

Laura: I couldn't handle that. I don't know, we have different species of our people down here who eat dogs and cats and stuff like that.

Tia: uh-huh. Well, they're not like pets.

Laura: you use them for food.

Tia: yeah.

Laura: like we do cattle.

Tia: uh-huh.

Laura: it seems really strange to hear that and we use them for an intellectual being.

Tia: well, they're not that smart on my planet and they're not quite like your canines.

Laura: oh.

Tia: most of them don't have tails but their front legs tend to be bigger than their back legs.

Laura: uh-huh.

Tia: and their hearing isn't as acute for them. And their teeth are bigger and more crushable. They can crunch things better, their jawbones are stronger.

Laura: oh. So they're more of a vicious......

Tia: yeah.

Laura: vicious animal in that breed. They wouldn't make very good pets.

Tia: no. We don't have many things that are pets. We have a kind of flying creature that are very good pets, they're quite intelligent. We have a kind of dolphin type that makes good pets but those are only for people that live in water with animals. We have, what would you call them? Long, sliver along the ground.

Laura: snakes.

Tia: yeah, I think that's what you call them.

Laura: a lot of our people have some but they're not really a pet, they're just there. They don't function as a pet and can't love you and they can't really keep you company.

Tia: well these are smart animals.

Laura: oh.

Tia: or the ones I mentioned are ideal for pets. We have flying creatures. A cross between a little cat and a bird that has wings like a bird apart from there's four of them.

Laura: four of them?

Tia: yes.

Laura: like a dragonfly.

Tia: kind of, yeah and it's like a very small cat. Not only do they make great pets but we also keep the house clean of little flying insects and things.

Laura: I understand the need for wings to fly.

Tia: well, if he was to fly or your Mindy was to fly, would that worry you?

Laura: well yeah because they're not supposed to be.

Tia: yeah, I know.

(Laura starts laughing)

Tia: okay, let's be serious and answer some questions.

Laura: well let me think of some good questions here. It hasn't been that long since we've done this. I was curious the other night that one of you mentioned the fact that when Mark's aura and my aura mix together they sizzle?

Tia: uh-huh.

Laura: what do you mean by that or what did they mean by that?

Tia: yes, it was mentioned the other day and I have the same problem. It's kind of interacting when the aura tends to react to people it's been very close to.

Laura: you mean that when Mark and I are together then our energies kind of........

Tia: hmmm, react to each other.

Laura: good react or bad react? I hope it's good.

Tia: it's good.

Laura: oh, okay.

Tia: yeah, because an aura, a bad reaction from an aura becomes......changes color and gets aggressive. That's a bad reaction. An aura expands, gets real strong and bright or it will shrink back and conserve energy for other purposes.

Laura: for some odd reason, when we were together we both........or I know I do, I get very I call it hypertension ad I've had to learn to control this because at first I couldn't figure out what was going on. I get really shaky and I want to move around a lot and.......

Tia: agitated.

Laura: right.

Tia: uh-huh.

Laura: right, right, right. My entities would go, my guardians, whatever you would like to call them would kind of go........they'd sit back and watch but......

Tia: see how you're going to handle it.

Laura: yes. But I enjoy the feedback I get from Mark and Russ.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Laura: so I have somebody to talk about........they have the same feelings more or less how I feel when it comes to things like this.

Tia: uh-huh.

Laura: my husband is just.......he tries to understand, Skip does, but I know
sometimes it's very hard for him. And I know it's very hard for him trying to understand the relationship with Mark and I.

Tia: uh-huh, yeah. I should imagine it would be. I've been trying hard to understand your species, sometimes.

Laura: well the same thing with us. I know it's our own species, it's still.....

Tia: yeah, it's like male and a female seem to be two totally different species sometimes.

Laura: it's hard to find somebody that you can totally relate to.........

Tia: uh-huh.

Laura: of the opposite sex without having......

Tia: yes.

Laura: the sexual thing you know.

Tia: uh-huh.

Laura: and I enjoy that.

Tia: uh-huh, it's good to have that.

Laura: I don't feel a man and women should have to have sex, I think that you should be able to be friends too.

Tia: uh-huh.

Laura: and I do know that my entities have sometimes come out and said things to Mark that he's kind of wondered about at times.

Tia: yes.

Laura: and then when I get done I think, "now why did I say that?"

Tia: uh-huh. Yeah, I do that to Mark sometimes too. Do you know what soul twins are?

Laura: yes.

Tia: uh-huh. That's what Mark and myself are.

Laura: that's what Mark what?

Tia: that's what Mark and myself are.

Laura: oh.

Tia: well actually, we're not soul twins, we're soul triplets which is very rare.

Laura: oh?

Tia: and the other part of the triplet set is Kiri.

Laura: oh.

Tia: uh-huh.

Laura: well I'm still waiting to find mine.

Tia: I can't make any predictions.

Laura: I know. I've been told, I'm saying I've been told that it's coming.

Tia: uh-huh.

Laura: well, it's going to be at least a couple years before I can do anything.

(We hear a bang)

Tia: did I do that?

Laura: I think you hit the pyramid with your toe......

Tia: oh.

Laura: with Mark's toe, however you want to put it.

Tia: I didn't damage it.

Laura: no.

Tia: oh.

Laura: it's fine.

Tia: okay.

Laura: it's in good shape.

Tia: right, hmmm. I'm going to show off.

Laura: what are you going to do?

Tia: I'm going to do what Kiri does sometimes.

Laura: what's that?

Tia: she gets up and walks.

Laura: oh.

Tia: and I can do it too. I'm not as good as she is.

Laura: you're still learning.

Tia: yeah, that's right. I got myself all awkward now.

Laura: uh-huh.

Tia: that's better.

Laura: I thought you were going to try, huh?

Tia: no, I can do it and then I play with the cats. I'll chase them away and actually physically chase them.

Laura: oh.

Tia: yeah, with this body of Mark's. He complains and says that his knees get beaten up.

Laura: that's what he was telling me.

Tia: uh-huh.

Laura: this is nice, you know?

Tia: uh-huh.

Laura: nobody else here.

Tia: yeah, you can see me as I really am.

Laura: yes, we should do this more often.

Tia: one-on-one channelings?

Laura: just a small group. It's very interesting and a certain people is a skeptic.

Tia: yeah, notice that Don's aura, what would be the best way to describe it? Was poor.

(Laura chuckles at that)

Laura: yeah and then we're talking about auras and I was curious as I was told that the aura I see...............(it's hard to make out the rest)

Tia: hmm, well it depends on how each individual sees them.

Laura: well I have never seen a regular aura. The auras I see are different.

Tia: uh-huh.

Laura: and that of my husband I see that.

Tia: yes and he told Mark off one time about this as well.

Laura: well I've done that a couple of times.....

Tia: yeah.

Laura: because he doesn't take care of himself and then I get upset with him.

Tia: well I can help you with that.

Laura: good. Well I got upset with him.

Tia: yeah, uh-huh. He pushes himself too hard.

Laura: yes, he needs the rest.

Tia: yes. When he goes shopping, it's funny actually, you see me in the back of his head going, chicken, frozen vegetables, stuff for sandwiches that aren't really that good for you. Things like mayonnaise and eggs, all bad things and then he gets to the vegetable section and I go shopping. Oranges, bananas, fresh carrots, garlic.....

Laura: uh-huh.

Tia: we go past the pharmacy section.

Laura: uh-huh.

Tia: and things like garlic capsules, all herbs and spices all good for him.

Laura: uh-huh. Well I'm basically over fifty but since I started taking that plus the extra calcium I feel a whole lot better.

Tia: yeah.

Laura: a whole lot better.

Tia: did you know I was fifty?

Laura: no. Oh yeah, I have another.........I'll be forty-nine in October.

Tia: oh. Well, I'm only twenty-three in your years, twenty-four. And Kiri, she's fifty-seven I think in your years.

Laura: she's older than I am.

Tia: yeah, but Sirians tend to live for oh, close to a thousand years.

Laura: oh my goodness.

Tia: yeah. So she looks about twenty, twenty-one.

Laura: uh-huh.

Tia: I'm fortunate, my race lives about a hundred and fifty of your years, two hundred?

Laura: so your race is long-lived.

Tia: yeah. But up here, being on Hades Base, I'm fortunate I've got access to rejuvenations.

Laura: ahhh.

Tia: so probably, maybe five, six hundred of your years?

Laura: if you were immortal there wouldn't be the children.

Tia: that's right, it's a two-edged sword.

Laura: yeah, children are very important.

Tia: uh-huh. You see, Sirians don't really start breeding until they're about fifty of your years. Before that there are incapable. Not incapable, but it's harmful for them to have children before they reach their right maturity.

Laura: well with us too but they still do it.

Tia: uh-huh. A young Sirian when she gets pregnant, it tends to be painful for her.

Laura: oh.

Tia: that's why it's a big taboo. I mean they're allowed to have sex but they're not allowed to get pregnant.

Laura: I hope you have some type of protection.

Tia: oh, we've got better protection then you could possibly imagine.

Laura: yeah, our scare right now is the AIDS.

Tia: yes but that's a natural thing.

Laura: it's been going on for hundreds and hundreds of years. It just now that they know what it is.

Tia: well I'm going to hand over to Omal and then I'll be back as I'm ring mistress.

Laura: okay.

Tia: just the three of us and Kiri is still in communication with Korton. It looks like she's pleading her case.

Laura: okay.

Tia: okay. I've got to get comfortable here.

Laura: uh-hmm.





(Omal comes on for his time channeling)

Omal: greetings and felicitations Laura.

Laura: greetings.

Omal: greetings.

Laura: we are here by ourselves tonight.

Omal: yes, we noticed. You have some questions for me? Sorry I sound a little bit in a hurry. I am not.

Laura: oh? Yeah, it's just kind of a laid-back situation tonight.

Omal: what is laid-back?

Laura: relaxed. I basically came up to be with my grandkids and spend some time with them at home and away from the energy drainage of my husband.

Omal: yes, we did note that he is still draining. Has he done anything with your feline?

Laura: no. Skip doesn't, how do I put this?

Omal: he lacks the self courage to overcome. He has become used to draining people's energies.

Laura: sometimes I think that right now that's his only way of surviving.

Omal: it is a possibility, yes.

Laura: because he has no energy of his own so he has to draw from other people.

Omal: uh-huh. It is possible that he is a psychic vampire? Feeding on other people's energy to keep himself alive. It is also possible that the only energy that works for him is human energy. That feline and plant energy would not suffice.

Laura: I don't think he would understand about anything.

Omal: no.

Laura: Skip he has a problem understanding a lot of this reality. He's new to this world.

Omal: yes. We have noticed that he has a very youthful aura.

Laura: yes, he's very much so as you noticed. Sixty of our years and he is still very childish at times. I've been with him now going on fifteen years and he was like that before.

Omal: uh-huh. It is a way of telling somebody's age in past lives is by the way they behave.

Laura: from what I understand this is his first life.

Omal: yes, we noticed that his aura is a youthful aura.

Laura: uh-huh.

Omal: whereas yours is quite an ancient aura and Russ's is you would say almost would you say that when somebody is very, very old?

Laura: well basically he's just an old life form. An old spirit or an old entity or however you want to say it.

Omal: yes and Mark has the same sort of aura.

Laura: uh-huh.

Omal: that it is a very ancient aura.

Laura: mine's quite old and has been quite active.

Omal: yes. It has enjoyed itself tremendously in the past.

Laura: it has. Sometimes I wonder what happened to that. I know I'm not supposed to be doing that now.

Omal: no, we do not understand the moral issues on that sort of thing.

Laura: is it just something that's natural on the earth?

Omal: Sirians, they do not distinguish between male and female when it comes to pleasure. It is for pleasure only, not for breeding.

Laura: uh-huh.

Omal: so therefore they do not see it as something of importance. It doesn't matter if it's a girl and a girl or a guy and a guy. It is totally unimportant to them because they are giving pleasure to each other.

Laura: see, we tend to frown on the same species in that situation. To us it's a more natural thing.

Omal: Kiri for example, she enjoys it both ways and there is nothing wrong with that.

Laura: we had differences of opinion on that down here.

Omal: yes, we are aware of this occurrence. Unfortunately, I have difficulty understanding it sometimes.

Laura: well so do we and it is our species. I was curious to know that the auras that I see are neither male or female. Now do you see that around my husband? I saw yellow spots on his aura.

Omal: yes.

Laura: but I'd like to hear it myself exactly what this means. I mean I know......

Omal: it is not a good sign.

Laura: well I figured that. I think I wanted to hear it, you know?

Omal: if I say what it is then I would be committing the same sin that Kiri.......

Laura: I don't want you to do that but I do, I understand.

Omal: but we did tell you how to combat it.

Laura: which he will not do. I know that he won't be able to. We tried and tried he does not take care of himself and when I'm not around he turns totally gray. Excuse me, not only is aura but his complexion, everything goes and that bothers me sometimes.

Omal: uh-huh.

Laura: my guides have told me that I need to look at his passing on.

Omal: it is necessary to make arrangements for your next steps.

Laura: so basically his passing on is for my next steps. Well it's for his too isn't it?

Omal: yes. That he will be reborn to a new life. I don't know if he has already decided in his subconscious what he wants to do in his next life. How it will benefit him.

Laura: Skip has a problem with decisions.

Omal: then he will be put in a position where a decision would be made for him.

Laura: we have had arguments over him not making a decision.

Omal: yes. He lacks the necessary compunction to grab hold of the proverbial hands and hold on.

Laura: he's okay as far as his work goes but when it comes to reality in everyday life it's really hard for him.

Omal: what is reality?

Laura: well our reality is like say it happened one time we were in a car to go see a daughter of ours and he could not make a decision on which road to take, which highway. He wanted me to make the decision and when I refused to do so he got very angry at me.

Omal: uh-huh. Yes, we use the term reality very carefully here because there are so many different realities.

Laura: hmm. Our reality here is what is happening here.

Omal: yes.

Laura: now, not something in your mind.

Omal: right. Or something that is written in the paper.

Laura: right.

Omal: or something that is happening in a parallel universe.

Laura: uh-huh.

Omal: it is why we sometimes have difficulty with when somebody says reality.

Laura: oh, okay. Well he has a problem with what is happening on a day-to-day basis as far as making decisions. And sometimes I get very impatient with him because I get tired of having to make all the decisions.

Omal: why are you a little bit tense at present.

Laura: it bothers me when I talk about this because I do care for him. I'm not in love with Skip but I love him. I mean he's like a.....

Omal: a very good friend.

Laura: yes, right. But I can't talk to him like I can like Mark and Russ because he doesn't seem to grasp what I'm saying.

Omal: remember a while back when we told you that part of your lesson was to learn patience and understanding?

Laura: yeah.

Omal: that is why Skip is breathing (?)

Laura: yeah, I understand. It's just hard to cope with sometimes. And also........

Omal: perhaps somebody ought to put cotton wool on the feline's paws.

Laura: what do you mean, I don't understand?

Omal: the feline above. Jumping on the ground? On the ceiling, there is a feline above?

Laura: oh, yeah. It's glad to stay up there because I don't want......

Omal: no, I am saying that it needs cotton wool.

Laura: yes, it does, definitely. Another question I was curious about, Mark and I all of a sudden......

Omal: uh-huh.

Laura: that it's kind of strange that we need to go down to Sedona and finding out it appears we need to go together.

Omal: it is for a learning experience that will occur.

Laura: for both of us or one of us?

Omal: both of you.

Laura: for both of us. It's like I told Mark, I don't think it's going to be for a couple years yet.

Omal: when you have the correct amount of your......

Laura: financial?

Omal: yes. There and then it will be the correct time. Everything happens at its own set pace.

Laura: yeah, that's what I told him, that when it's time it will come. It was just really strange that both of us, boom, we hit on that.

Omal: yeah.

Laura: it's just really fascinating that we realized that we communicate that well with each other.

Omal: it is necessary sometimes for people that have worked together in the past to proceed on plans that were made previously. Other lives.

Laura: so in other words, Mark and I have been together before and done this together before?

Omal: yes.

Laura: oh, that's interesting.

Omal: you see, souls tend to travel in groups.

Laura: uh-huh.

Omal: so that when you meet somebody, it may be late in your life or it may be early in your life and they're only with you for a short time. A span of maybe five to ten years. And then lay the path and they go on to a different path.

Laura: well I'm hoping that he and I will never lose the communication and keep in touch even though we might not be living close together. You know, because I know we enjoy each other's company. Or I do.

Omal: well I cannot speak for Mark.

Laura: I know you can't. I'm just going by how I feel.

Omal: if I did rummage around inside this gray matter here I might be able to find the answer.

Laura: uh-huh.

Omal: but it tends to leave him a little bit disoriented when he comes back.

Laura: yeah he tends to be that way anyway because all the information and confusion in his mind is kind of scrambled together.

Omal: well what he does is a very rare trick. Tia will be relaying information for this. Is that he has a very, very rare gift. Not only does he astral travel, not only can he travel into our dimension, but when he returns back, he can stay here for as long as he wishes and then he comes back half an hour to an hour later on your time. So what he actually does is he manipulates the fourth dimension which is time.

Laura: oh.

Omal: I don't think he knows how he does it, most people that can do this do not. But it is a very rare thing, a very rare capability.

Laura: now was he chosen to do this as a learning process?

Omal: I think he has been working on it for many lives.

Laura: oh, okay.

Omal: it is a very useful trick but it has its own price.

Laura: yes? I'm not quite sure what the price it is.

Omal: the price is an acceleration in (the sound is lost here)

Omal: how is your mode of transportation?

Laura: well it's working. As long as it continues to work for a while.
I'm not going to get stuck am I going down there?

Omal: nooo, you will not get stuck.

Laura: okay.

Omal: not this time.

Laura: oh thanks. Not this time. Well what's going to happen? Well, I know you can't tell me.

Omal: well we can tell on fields of improbability.

Laura: probability, is that car going to do me until at least I can get rid of it?

Omal: the probability is about, the probability is about 60%. We lack necessary data to make a good speculation on the survival of your vehicle.

Laura: I just got the stupid thing paid off.

Omal: hmmm.

Laura: I'm going to end up having to make another car payment?

Omal: again, I cannot say.

Laura: see, these are things are the reason I need to see Rosie about and I know that the future is very testy because of changes from one time to another.

Omal: the way that the future works is certain events can cause a break and............for example, let's say your next election.

Laura: uh-huh.

Omal: you have your current president who is in office.......

Laura: uh-huh.

Omal: you have the person running against him. You have this person from Texas....

Laura: uh-huh.

Omal: that talks funny.

(Omal breaks into his best Ross Perot impression)

Omal: that is "now, now, just let me finish. I just want to say, I just want to say, now you look at the chart".

(Laura chuckles)

Laura: uh-huh?

Omal: we find humor is necessary sometimes. You have three possibilities there. Your current person continues. The representative of the other political organization gets elected, or this person from Texas gets elected.

Laura: uh-huh.

Omal: you have three set possibilities. In one of your futures you have your current one elected. In another future you have the one for representing of the other political interests and in another future you have this person from Texas. All three can occur but in different parallel universes they split off at that point from the central one.

Laura: so another words, basically what we're seeing, what with living now, someone else ahead of us is still living is going about their time.

Omal: yes but it is not set in stone. What I'm saying is, it is like a timeline? You know what timelines are?

Laura: uh-huh.

Omar with branches off like a tree?

Laura: uh-huh.

Omar and you may be on one the limbs of the time tree.

Laura: so we're not the only.....

Omal: no, you are not the only ones that are living....

Laura: I was always wondering about that.

Omal: there are so many different fluctuations that it is many, many timelines going on all at the same time.

Laura: oh, okay. And that's the reason we have a tendency to see what I guess we would call spirits.

Omal: uh-huh.

Laura: even of those that have passed, we've stayed and have passed on, they're just living another dimension yet they make themselves known to us occasionally.

Omal: yes.

Laura: I come in here by myself or with Mark and relax. I don't have the energy levels sometimes......

Omal: clap your hands.

Laura: I know, build up my energy.

Omal: yes. No, no, no, clap your hands.

Laura: clap them?

Omal: yes.

(Laura begins to clap her hands)

Omal: now take a deep breath. Okay, you are a manifestor, are you not?

Laura: yes I am, I have to be very careful.

Omal: yes. Kiri's son is also manifestor. We need to teach him that fire is dangerous.

Laura: yes.

Omal: I am also a manifestor.

Laura: well I have a problem sometimes that I have to be very careful because I can cause harm....

Omal: uh-huh.

Laura: and damage.

Omal: yes, that is not a good thing.

Laura: no.

Omal: for protection of your family unit, you have to be careful on how you use it.

Laura: well yeah. Because I know that when I get angry I've learned to curb this. That I caused harm not only physically but mentally to someone also and it seems to run very strong in the women of my family.

Omal: I assume that your daughters also have this gift.

Laura: yes.

Omal: although one is afraid of it.

Laura: yes she is, she's afraid. And she has been raised.....

Omal: with it.

Laura: with it.

Omal: yes.

Laura: why she has a fear of it I don't know. I think she's learning to come to terms with it.

Omal: it is the unknowns for her. She has a scientific mind.

Laura: yes she does.

Omal: and everything has a very rational explanation. This is not the case. To quote one of your writers of the late 16th century, "there are stranger things in heaven and earth than you have dreamt of in your philosophy Horatio".

Laura: uh-huh.

Omal: and this is very true.

Laura: you would think though with her experiences that she's had with entities.

Omal: uh-huh.

Laura: because we've had some doozies of experiences with myself and my girls that she would have accepted this. Whether she likes it or not, you know I'm saying?

Omal: yes, it is sometimes that it is a very scary experience that she wishes to shut out. Things bopping around tend to be scary for an immature mind.

Laura: well she's a very lovable and very sweet and beautiful young lady.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Laura: and I hope eventually she finds herself and what she wants.

Omal: she is going to tell you it in her own way by working in a place of where the people when they no longer need.......

Laura: their spirit.

Omal: where the spirits no longer need their bodies.

Laura: yeah, I think that's why she chose the profession because she's very good at it.

Omal: do not worry, she's a female.

(Laura speaks between laughter)

Laura: that's okay.

Omal: okay, next question?

Laura: oh....

Omal: would you wish me to hand back to another descendant.

Laura: well I don't know, I'm just at a loss for questions. I kind of want Mark to help me a little bit more on channeling. I would prefer you or Korton to do this. Not tonight, I'm too tired tonight. I don't know if I'm tired, I'm just a very relaxed mood. I'm more or less coming to terms with myself in my situation.

Omal: yes, Kiri was very, what is the word? Very brave.

Laura: she did very well tonight.

Omal: no, that was Tia.

Laura: oh, that was Tia.

Omal: yes, Kiri was being very brave when she helped you to channel.

Laura: that's what Mark said. She did very well. My energy level wasn't at its best because I wasn't feeling well but I at least wanted to try.

Omal: there was also the draining.

Laura: yes. What a drain, why did it drain so much?

Omal: the fact that your body is not accustomed to it.

Laura: hmmm.

Omal: also the fact that there was a draining influence in the room.

Laura: my husband? So in other words, I shouldn't even try to channel with him around?

Omal: not until you get more experience. You need to build up stamina.

Laura: how I do that?

Omal: hmmm......

Laura: ask.......

Omal: your lady friend Rosie.

Laura: okay.

Omal: tell her that you have channeled.

 Laura: uh-huh.

Omal: explain to her that you were tired afterwards.

Laura: yes, yes.

Omal: that Skip is a draining influence and ask her for help in protecting yourself because we know that when you are not in an area like this.....

Laura: uh-huh.

Omal: this pyramid......

Laura:: uh-huh.

Omal: you are not protected. In here, there is not very much that can cause you harm.

Laura: why is it that when I'm around Mark I feel very energetic and like we were on the phone and like that I'm very mellow. I feel good tonight, I feel very relaxed. I don't have any big draining either.

Omal: what did Rosie say about his aura? She said that he had a very powerful aura, very bright.

Laura: yes, very strong, very energetic. That supposedly goes into me or.......?

Omal: yes. It goes back to crackling auras. It energizes you because he is such a powerful aura. It also goes with the fact that he can do what would you call them, time jumps? When he travels to our dimension and he comes back an hour later having been up here twelve hours.

Laura: yeah. I guess you could call that time travel.

Omal: yeah. But as I said, there is a price.

Laura: uh-huh.

Omal: and I think he's starting to find out what that price is.

Laura: hmm, does he know that though?

Omal: I think.....

Laura: has he realized it yet?

Omal: I think he is smart enough to realize it.

Laura: oh, okay. I know he's taught me a lot. I guess.....

Omal: you're not inclined to astral travel at present. You still have that fear.

Laura: I am afraid, I don't know why, I have this thing of heights and to me astral traveling is heights. It's just a fear that I have always had.

Omal: in this life.

Laura: in this life. I guess it comes from something that must have happened another time.

Omal: one should not lean out over tall buildings.

Laura: well that I know so I have a....yeah....yeah......that's probably what happened. Because when I get on a height, in a high place and I get close to an edge I have a feeling I want to jump.

Omal: uh-huh. It is very unadvisable.

Laura: so I just don't do that.

Omal: it's survival that you do not put yourself in a situation where that would occur. But astral travel is different.

Laura: uh-huh.

Omar there are many types of astral travel.

Laura: uh-huh.

Omal: there is just where you see things like watching one of your entertainments that you have in your houses.

Laura: uh-huh.

Omal: or there is another one when you can actually see and feel yourself.

Laura: uh-huh, I've done that one before, it's scary.

Omal: it is an unusual experience. And there is one where you can feel other people's energies.

Laura: well I do that all the time.

Omal: uh-huh, but from outside your body.

Laura: uh-huh, I don't think I've done that.

Omal: there is another one where you can enter into the other way.

Laura: I did that.....

Omal: when you weren't very well.

Laura: during my surgeries?

Omal: uh-huh.

Laura: it was beautiful.

Omal: yes, nice woodland scenes. Everybody has their own different version.

Laura: why was mine in yellow meadows?

Omal: meadows springs to mind.....

Laura: yeah.

Omal: with yellow butterflies?

Laura: some type of yellow flower. All I know is it was very relaxing and I think that's what brought me through it.

Omal: it is a way of soothing oneself.

Laura: I think because I was scared, I was in bad shape. Another thing that got me was waking up and finding myself talking to entities in my room. I was told that I was trying to make a decision at that time.

Omal: yes, you made the right decision.

Laura: I think so, I think......yeah.

Omal: because although your species does not put much store in this, duty, you are very important part of your existence.

Laura: yeah, I was tired though. I'm not allowing that anymore which is hard for me because it's a lesson I'm having to learn.

Omal: yes.

Laura: and also I need to learn to ask for help.

Omal: yes, that is what we are here for.

Laura: my entities, my entities have helped me.

Omal: when I say that's what we are here for I mean.....

Laura: all of you.

Omal: yes.

Laura: which makes it nice to know that I have, I know that I have one and I find I have four.

Omal: yes, buffaloes.

Laura: yes, they are. Sometimes he comes on really strong when he's close.

Omal: yes, big, white buffaloes are best with no nasty, sharp pointed teeth.

Laura: well it's not that, it's the aroma.

Omal: yes.

Laura: sometimes his aroma gets strong. Doesn't happen very often but......

Omal: hold on a second, I need to make it, try to make it so I can get better physical.....

Laura: okay.

Omal: there, I have it on a better leg.

Laura: they are my, what would I say? They are my my security.

Omal: yes and he is creating the breeze as well.

Laura: he's creating a breeze?

Omal: yes, there is a cooling sensation around the feet.

Laura: yes there is, even on mine and I have socks on. Why are we having this breeze?

Omal: because he is interested.

Laura: that's because I asked him to help me.

Omal: yes.

Laura: like I said, that's my security.

Omal: yes, we are not a harmful species.

Laura: well it was just a surprise when I found out that I had this. Took me a while to get use to that.

Omal: hmm. It is something that is useful to have and it makes a good guardian.

Laura: well I learned a lot and realized a lot when I had the surgery and after I had the surgery to ask for help when try to do it all myself.

Omal: okay, I will hand back to the rambunctious feline.

Laura: okay, well then we have to cut short because I have to leave here pretty soon and I would like to talk to Mark for a little while.

Omal: okay. From your entertainment, live long and prosper.

(Laura laughs at that)

Laura: thank you, I can do that too.

Omal: Omal to enterprise, one to beam up.

(Tia gets us to the end of the session)

Laura: well?

Tia: well, yes, he does that. It is his attempt at humor.

Laura: sorry, he did very well.

Tia: uh-huh yes, his searching for the words.....

Laura: Spock.

Tia: yes.

Laura: yes, Spock.

Tia: yes, it was introduced up here. I've seen all of them, you know.

Laura: oh you have?

Tia: uh-huh, even the movies.

Laura: I was going to ask if you had seen the movies.

Tia: uh-huh.

Laura: I enjoyed the movies.

Tia: yeah. Yes, it was brought up here like the Star Wars was brought up here.

Laura: I enjoyed the one, especially about when Spock was reborn.

Tia: uh-huh, yeah, In Search of Spock.

Laura: so...

Tia: oh, I say.

Laura: what'd you see?

Tia: what do I see? I see a Buffalo. Can't you feel it?

Laura: I feel it all the time.

Tia: uh-huh.

Laura: I feel my entities all the time.

Tia: he's right there.

Laura: my alien.

Tia: uh-huh.

Laura: he stands back and watches me.

Tia: yes.

Laura: he's there.

Tia: yes.

Laura: he's in my corner.

Tia: I've seen him.

Laura: have you?

Tia: uh-huh. Aliens might tend to do that. They're not harmful or anything, they're just very inquisitive. They don't understand.....

Laura: they been with me a long time.......

Tia: uh-huh.

Laura: observing.

Tia: uh-huh. I have been observing you also.

Laura: oh.

Tia: yeah, ladies tend to be subservient to your males and that to me is very limiting.

Laura: we don't like it. I don't know if it's in the genes or if it's something that we have just.....

Tia: uh-huh, I find it hard, you know?

Laura: we have a tendency.......I have a tendency of being able to fight this.

Tia: yeah.

Laura: and........what's the matter?

Tia: I was just thinking of women that used to have their own tribe?

Laura: the Amazons.

Tia: yes.

Laura: I have definitely thought about it except I'm not tall enough.

Tia: well maybe not in......

Laura: yes, we are now starting to fight this. Well, the American women, a lot of us, most of us are.......

Tia: yeah.

Laura: are continuing to fight this dominancy of the men.

Tia: uh-huh.

Laura: and it's really, it's really very hard for the men to......

Tia: yes, even to running your country.

Laura: yes.

Tia: how is your president Hillary?

Laura: I would say she's doing well.

Tia: that was a question from Kiri.

Laura: oh. I would say she's doing well.

Tia: okay, well you've got things to do, haven't you?

Laura: yes.

Tia: uh-huh.

Laura: I'd like to talk to Mark and visit with him for a little while.

Tia: uh-huh.

Laura: and before I leave I have to say good night.

Tia: good night. Enjoy, well you've seen me as I really am.

Laura: I have totally enjoyed this.

Tia: yes. I'm not used to big groups. I know it's not a big group. Anyway......

Laura: I shall say good night and we shall see you again.

Tia: okay. I'll drop by.

Laura: all right, you do that.

Tia: yeah.

Laura: no problem.

Tia: anyway, I'm off.

Laura: good night.

Tia: I'm out of here. Bye.

Laura: bye.


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