Archivist Notes: As they say in Game of
Thrones, winter is coming. It's nice then to be
working on a pair of sessions from February 1993
when winter will be nearly done here in Lake Tahoe.
We say a pair of lessons because this one podcast is
a combination of two sessions over two nights three
days apart. The first is from Valentine's Day of
that year and features the four main speakers who
are at pretty much every channeling session. The
first of those is our resident ring mistress Tia who
gets each of the two nights off to a start. For a
little background, Bethany had not been showing up
to channeling sessions but had attended a recent
poetry reading Mark and I had taken part. We began
with analyzing the negative feedback loop I had been
using and working on ways to achieve a power boost
when using it. As Mark was channeling Tia from
within a pyramid, she suggested using outside power
sources for the energy needed for the boost such as
the pyramid itself or electrical appliances. She
uses the analogy of a river gaining strength before
it discharges into the ocean. What I would be doing
is discharging the energy into my third eye. From
there a giggling Kiri takes over to help me focus my
questions. What immediately comes up was a recent
trip to the dentist where Kiri had played some role
in the procedure I can't remember at this time. From
the gist of the conversation it sounds like it was
quite the prank. We jump next to the poetry reading
mentioned and even give an example of one that
sounds like something written by Bethany which we
then try to determine its meaning. She next gives me
the assignment of listening to Mark after his astral
travel trips to places here on the earth to do
surveillance work for the Command. I was then have
to give the reports to Korton afterwards to free up
Mark from that same responsibility. She ends her
time speaking by apologizing for being a grouch
recently though her pregnancy gives her the right.
Omal uses to the end of the first night with a
demonstration of coercion with me saying the lines
he normally would. Mark and I next get instructions
from him to call Bethany which we confirm we did on
side two. We also get their plan to start moving
Mark's body while he channels instead of just using
the vocal cords. Kiri would later become the expert
at this. I give him a plan on a surveillance project
for a college in Scotland and he provides the
necessary navigation waypoints I should be looking
for when I get near it in my astral body. It's quiz
time after that where I have to remember what he
taught me about finding Betelgeuse. We end with
another astral travel project I had assigned myself
to research pubs in London for a friend that he
could then verify the information afterwards. From
there the session ends we move on three nights later
where Tia starts the follow-up session.
Side two starts much as side one did with Tia and I
discussing a recent training trip we had taken
together and a total body separation of mine that
happened earlier that day. The energy I was bleeding
during the training gave her the opportunity to go
over the basics of farsighting once more. We were
using a system of switches to turn off the energy in
parts of the body and then taking ten deep breaths
followed by ten quick breaths. That would be
repeated as the body felt lighter and lighter. She
next goes over the tips for interplanetary travel
such as the training we did where we used the
gravity well of the planet Sirius to slow ourselves
down. She advises maintaining a tighter focus and
even possibly holding a crystal in front of me to
achieve that focus. She also advises experimenting
with different techniques from various belief
systems. During a short interlude where I was
otherwise engaged, she breaks out some jokes she had
thought up. The birthday party comes up as plans are
made for her attendance before she backtracks to
answer my question on why Ashtar doesn't go solid
down here. She ends her time speaking with a moment
of levity where we take a quick trip to France with
a nursery rhyme and phrase exchange. She now makes
way for Karra who gives her take on astral travel
trip I had taken to see her on the base earlier as
well as offering some advice that's very insightful.
She then accidentally trigger something that moves
Mark's leg which takes her by surprise. We get into
a conversation about her daughter Klarra which is
the subject she is with as there's a diaper that
needs changing. It's then time for her very pregnant
sister to come on and let's me know of a snowball
fight the girls are headed to start. The subject of
her pregnancy brings up her intuition that Tia is
looking to get pregnant as well. What we find out is
that Kornas has denied Tia that for now due to her
youth though we know she would have triplet
daughters with Mark in the future. We next discussed
her plans for attending the party and learn shall be
for the most part on the sidelines watching the
kids. She just found out the sex of her child with
Mark and we know his name would be Alex. She does
reveal that normally she would be able to make sure
the sex but in this case she had no choice. It's
that choice that we end the session with and what a
session it was. Another excellent entry into the
archives of the Hades Base News.
In love, light, and wisdom as one,
Russ and Karra
||RUSS HATFIELD (Archivist)
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(Tia gets the first of two sessions underway)
Tia: hi. Farsighting, section four, February the
14th, Valentine's Day!!!!
Russ: happy Valentine's Day.
Tia: yes, and wasn't that a little surprise?
Russ: I don't know if little could quite fit in with
the term there.
Tia: uh-huh. I'm surprised for you guys and us.
Russ: major surprise.
Russ: quite pleasant actually.
Tia: pity she couldn't stay for the channeling.
Russ: she's not ready for that yet.
Russ: she's got a little ways to go still, she's on
Tia: uh-huh. And what did we say all those months
Russ: you would work on it.
Russ: good work.
Tia: thank you. Actually, because it's so late,
we're not going to do a farsighting session.
Tia: because the plan was for you to come up here.
But, because it's late and we understand that
certain individuals have changed their work routine,
we won't be able to do that. So tonight is a free
Tia: so is that all right?
Russ: that's perfectly fine.
Russ: since I'm a little confused now anyway, I
don't even know where to start.
Tia: well, we're having a free one. We're having a
conversation with Omal as well so you'll have to
excuse my little bit of distractedness as he is
prodding and poking me. I need to get down to
business and okay, do you have any questions for me?
Russ: yeah, as a matter of fact.
Russ: I'd like to know more about the power boost.
Tia: the power boost?
Tia: of the negative feedback loop?
Tia: what do you wish to know?
Russ: what is it, how do I get it?
Tia: you ride the beam. You suck in energy instead
of just doing a negative feedback using your own
energy, you collect energy as well.
Russ: where does the energy come from?
Tia: all around you. If you were to do it in here it
would come from the pyramid. If you were to do it in
a crowded room it would come from the other people
or from the electrical appliances.
Russ: how would I visualize the gathering?
Tia: you feel it. You feel all the energy
surrounding you all the time, correct?
Tia: so you just collect that and add it to the
negative feedback loop.
Russ: where do I funnel that into to feed into it?
Tia: well, as it comes out of you, instead of
keeping it on a tight beam, you let it get fat and
then as it starts to get near to the top of your
head you condense it again. So it comes out narrow,
it starts to get wide by picking up the energy
around you and then you condense it down
Russ: before it comes back into my body?
Tia: correct and you get your energy boost.
Russ: okay. Now then, in doing the negative feedback
Russ: I noticed the key was to keep getting it
faster and faster until the body automatically sends
it into the brain.
Tia: uh-huh. It's not actually the body, it is that
it is establishing a pattern that keeps reaching a
point that doesn't need any more controlling.
Russ: so instead of getting out of control it goes
into my body.......
Russ: or my mind?
Tia: yeah. Because it's at that point that it would
go out of control but because you're funneling it
in, it retains its control.
Russ: so there's no more need for conscious control
of it when I'm consciously sending it into my own
Tia: well there is a little bit of control needed to
keep it going.
Russ: right but that's the only control.
Tia: yeah, that's it. You're getting there.
Russ: and pushing it faster and faster while I
continue to increase speed.......
Russ: for each automatic jump?
Russ: so each time it goes in it will be a little
bit faster than the time before.
Tia: uh-huh, yep. But once you get up near to the
speed where it is nearly maximum, it can't pick up
anymore speed at that point but it can carry on
picking up energy.
Russ: so in other words, it's still the same speed
but more energy.
Tia: yeah, more energy, more energy, more energy.
Russ: and what is this doing right now could be
described to my farsighting capabilities as far as
you can describe them? A way of putting it into
words I could understand.
Tia: that would be a difficult one. Basically, it's
like a river. A river starts off in a small, single
Tia: and then it goes along and it gets wider and
wider and wider. Is that a good enough analogy?
Russ: it's a perfect analogy.
Russ: where does the river go from me though? I mean
does it stay only in my brain or does it spread?
Tia: again that's a hard one for me to answer. I've
never had to explain in any great detail my
farsighting so I do have difficulty explaining it.
Russ: well it's only curiosity.
Tia: uh-huh. We'll let you work that one out........
Tia: and we will think on it ourselves.
Russ: all right.
Russ: see, I'm a little confused here. I'm having
trouble keeping my questions in mind.
Tia: well let them come as they may.
Russ: that's the problem, I've got so many that
they're jumbling around in my head and won't all get
focused in on to come out. It's a free night, right?
Tia: yeah, hold on a second. We're going to put
somebody in that will be able to help you.
(Kiri is in a lighthearted mood for this channeling)
Russ: oh great, this is supposed to help?
Kiri: demonstration time.
Russ: oh God.
Russ: you're in for a spanking young lady.
Kiri: oooooohhhhhh. When you go solid.
Russ: oh yes, if it's anything for inspiration, that
will do it.
Kiri: uh-huh. But you've got to remember, I do have
a serious.......serious disadvantage at the moment.
Russ: I'll have to wait, I understand that, that's
Russ: I'm perfectly willing to wait. That was very
funny at the dentist office, thank you very much.
Kiri: "the doctor is in".
Russ: that was horribly amused. God, you're
terrible. How you doing Kiri?
Kiri: three guesses.
Russ: that good, huh?
Russ: oh good. Okay, what do you know about
Kiri: what do you want to know? Yes she was.
Russ: yes? Then why?
Kiri: then why?
Kiri: you can answer that one.
Russ: no I can't answer that one. I come up with
answers that seem pretty weird all of a sudden.
Kiri: okay, go ahead, let's hear them.
(Kiri starts to giggle)
Russ: well the first one would be the reasons for
coming in the first place.
Kiri: which was?
Russ: and for poetry.
Kiri: uh-huh. Okay, poetry reading time.
Russ: okay, poetry reading time.
Russ: good, we'll take the short one first.
Russ: all right, it's called, Passionate Need.
"Alone in darkness, screams all I hear. My only wish
is for you to be near.
The wish my heart holds I never let go. Hope for
your touch my cries of woe.
A passionate dream keeps me awake, I am what you
want, yours to make.
Touch me, mold me, I beg you please, but away you
fly like a Summer's breeze.
Come back to me my love, it's you that I miss.
Memories sweet only bring me bliss.
Where have you gone, I cry to above, will you ever
see I need your love."
hmm. Did you kiss her good night?
Russ: no, I did not kiss her good night.
Russ: I'm a little confused at this present time.
Russ: understandably so.
Kiri: well we could sit here all night and analyze
just for one, we'll save the other one for a later
Russ: oh yeah, most definitely.
Kiri: she's looking for companionship again. She's
missing the link, the bond. The bond with you, the
bond with us.
Kiri: she's still a little bit scared.
Russ: scared of what? I'm not quite sure.
Kiri: scared of herself.
Russ: what she could become or what she is?
Kiri: uh-huh, both. She cannot figure out what she
is and she cannot figure out where she wants to go.
Russ: she knows she can't do it alone.
Russ: okay. Connections time.
Russ: where are the connections?
Kiri: the connections?
Russ: where do they lead? Connections to souls.
Russ: past lives.
Russ: present lives.
Russ: and future lives.
Kiri: ahhhh, the future hasn't happened yet.
Russ: do we know that?
Kiri: the future can only happen in a limited sense
as been written. Anything further is hearsay.
Kiri: you heard them say it, huh?
Kiri: see, listening to the poems, what we found
were bits of.......hold on a second whilst I wiggle
myself up, pull myself up by my bootstraps.
(Kiri blows a raspberry)
Russ: thank you.
Kiri: that's better. Okay.
Kiri: now then, what we could say is that Bethany
feels lonely, she's looking for companionship again.
Russ: so where do we take it from here? Leave the
next step up to her I assume?
Kiri: no. I'm going to make a suggestion which I
don't often make.
Russ: no you don't.
Kiri: call her tomorrow.
Kiri: uh-huh. You still have her phone number?
Russ: oh yeah.
Kiri: okay. Give her a call tomorrow, don't make any
promises or say anything, just say that you enjoyed
her company and appreciated the visit and leave it
at that. That's if you get her answering machine.
Kiri: and if you get her, say nice things and say
basically what I just told you to say. That you
enjoyed her company even though it was only a brief
stay or how well she was looking, and so on.
Russ: that's on the verbal mode, how about on the
Kiri: generate friendship, love, understanding,
welcome, all good positive things. May even give you
a chance to practice your coercion.
Russ: yeah. How about on the farsight mode?
Kiri: hail her on the farsight mode, call her.
Russ: okay, but don't go farsighting there?
Kiri: no, that's a taboo.
Kiri: farsighting into somebody's private space?
It's all right when she's at school or work but into
her own bedroom? Uh-uh. Naughty naughty.
Russ: okay, good, I didn't know that.
Kiri: it was mentioned, it was mentioned.
Russ: I'm sure it was and I'm sure I forgot it.
Well, glad of the reminder, thank you.
Kiri: oh, you're welcome. Yes, full of life. Bouncy,
Russ: okay thank you Kiri for your......
here he: trying to get rid of me, huh?
Russ: no, I'm just thanking you for your advice.
Kiri: oh, okay.
Russ: benefits of wideband coercion.
Kiri: uh-huh? As you were attempting this evening?
Russ: a big waste of energy on one person.
Russ: it's not?
Kiri: because it is opened up, even though you work
hard and achieved so, so little, it has laid the
groundwork. Well, we have time to kill, Tia and
myself and Omal because two individuals have gone
off and are being very boring.
Russ: oh yeah, they have to do that.
Kiri: hold on a second, I'm going to stick my
fingers in Tia's ears. Omal's going to do it, she's
being sent outside.
Kiri: uh-huh, it's concerning his workload.
Kiri: you're going to start helping him.
Russ: oh God.
Kiri: no, no, no, no, no, no. What we want him to
Kiri: is to tell you verbally what he sees when he
Kiri: okay? Now when you come up here......
Kiri: you're going to make some of the reports.
Kiri: so that Korton doesn't have to spend so long
with Mr. Reconnaissance, Mr. Observer.
Russ: so he can spend more time with you and Tia.
Russ: ahh, I see your subtle ways.
Russ: very subtle.
Russ: like a hurricane.
Russ: okay, works for me, good practice and all.
Kiri: uh-huh, it will teach you how to analyze
Russ: analyze information?
Russ: you mean put my skew on it?
Kiri: not necessarily put your point of view on it
but being able to relay information better using
what's up in your cranium as a memory.
Kiri: enlarging your memory capacity. But when you
are ready to do your own line of farsighting.....
Kiri: then you will be able to have full knowledge
on how to process the information and to deliver the
Russ: good. When do we start?
Kiri: when you wish.
Russ: after Mark's next trip.
Kiri: uh-huh. Which will be whenever he does the
next. Ask him.
Russ: okay. I assume he's being filled in on this
information at the same time I am?
Kiri: I don't know.
Russ: ahh. Well I'll fill him in otherwise.
Kiri: well, you know what the boss is like.
Russ: all right, works for me.
Kiri: so how was the charming, delightful, lunch
Russ: sending some heavy vibes.
Russ: heavy mental messages. Heavy throwing on my
shields in the best possible way.
Russ: okay, well I think we're on the brink here.
Russ: we're about to take a very major step in our
back to projects again.
Russ: which means we have a meta-concert back
Russ: okay, so in other words, farsighting has
become more important than ever now.
Kiri: yes. Funny how things like that work out,
Russ: just amazing.
Kiri: uh-huh. We kept our part of the deal.
Russ: yes you did and I'll keep mine.
Russ: yeah, she did mention that quite a bit has
gone on with her since her last time she's seen us.
I imagine a lot of it had to do with you guys.
Kiri: uh-huh. We can neither....
(Russ and Kiri together)
Russ and Kiri: confirm or deny.
Kiri: Tia's back.
Russ: oh goody.
Kiri: okay, she's pouting.
Russ: of course she is.
Kiri: uh-huh. Well, I'm going to hand over to Omal.
Kiri: uh-huh. And then Tia will probably come back.
Russ: are you off or are you going to hang around
for little while?
Kiri: I'm going to hang around.
Kiri: so I'm in a fun mood.
Russ: we'll this is a change of pace, I'm happy to
Kiri: uh-huh. I feel a lot better. I apologize for
the last channeling session where I was a real
Russ: I like the time at the pool when you were just
keep off, keep out, keep away.
Kiri: oh, give me a break, I can't be like that all
the time. I mean, if you were in my
Russ: and I hope to never be.
Kiri: uh-huh. You'd be a grouch now but mind you,
you males, you grouch at the slightest thing.
(Russ burst out laughing)
Russ: well I'm so happy to hear you happy again.
Russ: it's a joy. Thank you Kiri.
Kiri: later dude.
Russ: later dudette.
(Omal gets us to
the end of night since the session was over two
Russ: operating within normal parameters.
Russ: how are you doing Omal? I know, I just said
Russ: message is clear.
Russ: things are moving fast.
Russ: okay, what's the news?
Omal: okay, demonstration over.
(Russ really laughs now)
Omal: okay, as was stated by Tia, the plans for this
evening were changed.
Omal: partly because of the lateness of the hour,
partly because of the events that were planned.
Don't we get a thanks for that from you?
Russ: yes you do, thank you very much.
Omal: uh-huh. Unfortunately, certain individuals
were not willing to cooperate at the appropriate
time. But still, it proves that not everybody is
coerceable all the time.
Russ: true. So what's the next step?
Omal: the next step, patience.
Omal: Kiri was quite correct in what she said.
Omal: that is a good plan to follow........
Russ: that is a good plan.
Omal: for both of you.
Omal: both of you being the channeler as well.
Omal: don't say the same things as it sounds too
Omal: independent operations at this time are the
necessary forms of communication.
Omal: we will continue our work although a little
less heavy-handed and more subtle.
Russ: I got it.
Omal: yes and we're also being distracted as well.
Russ: I can only imagine.
Omal: yes. We're not going to describe the scene as
Russ: I can understand.
Omal: uh-huh. But somebody's in for an interesting
Russ: poor guy.
Omal: poor, he loves it.
Russ: sex drive like a Ferrari.
Omal: oh yes, but I do not follow this analogy,
Russ: Ferrari, it's an automobile designed to travel
at speeds in excess of what's normal.
Omal: ahhh, yes. But she will have to find that she
will have to slow down as well. She has an extra
Russ: backseat driver?
Russ: okay. Okay, let's see.
Omal: and somebody in the last session has a big
Russ: do they?
Omal: yes. That is why she isn't channeling this
evening. She is being reprimanded for having a big
Omal: because she made hints. Now then.......
Omal: changing the subject slightly.....
Omal: we are going to to start working out on
Omal: for when the weather becomes more clement.
Omal: as the weather has been a little bit cold, if
we were to get mobile at this junction, the
channeler wouldn't feel anything however, because of
the systems and everything, they would be affected
by A, the motion and B, the decrease in temperature
which could be harmful.
Omal: so we will wait patiently and practice
Russ: oh, what was the plan?
Omal: the plan is that whilst we talk we're going to
Omal: uh-huh. And we have done this in the past and
we are now going to continue our propulsion
practices, or not as the case may be.
Russ: propulsion, what do you mean......?
Omal: in the channeler.
Russ: oh, moving his body around?
Omal: uh-huh. We're going to work up to it though
nice and gently.
Omal: now do you have questions for me?
Russ: oh yeah.
Russ: okay, negative feedback loop that I did.
Omal: uh-huh, which one?
Russ: timeframe of a day. Today's timeframe,
correct. Negative feedback loop. Made progress? Any
hint or any advice?
Omal: just continue as perplanned.
Omal: continue at your own necessary speed.
Russ: okay. Now, my trip to London the other day.
Russ: I'm going to try to continue that out and make
it up to Edinburgh.
Russ: I got an atlas and know now where Edinburgh is
and find the college.....
Russ: find out what's going on.....
Russ: and observe......
Russ: local stuff.
Omal: okay, where you want to look, to give you a
little bit of help for the college at Edinburgh.....
Omal: is you look for I presume they call it a
mountain although it isn't particularly high and it
has a rocky outcrop on it and it is called Arthur's
Omal: and then you proceed down from there and there
is a large park and the University is just off from
Russ: it should be easy to find.
Omal: uh-huh. It is almost on the other side from
the castle, Edinburgh Castle.
Russ: okay, good. I've got a star chart so I'm
learning my constellations.
Omal: okay. Right, question time.
Omal: where is Betelgeuse?
Russ: ahh, Betelgeuse is next to Orion.
Russ: if you find the three stars in Orion's
Russ: it would be to the left of it.....
Russ: about one degree more or less......
Russ: and it's the bright star.
Omal: what color?
Russ: and it's the one, the whole shape forms a kind
of rectangular coffin-like box around three
Russ: it would be the one on the left of that
Omal: the shoulder.
Omal: okay, now a statement, effect. The other
evening you were involved in some interactive
entertainment and you gave the correct answer,
Russ: ahh yes, yes, that's right.
Omal: uh-huh. Now, both of you were correct.
Russ: we were both correct?
Russ: so it was not only a black hole but it was a
Omal: the question was worded badly.
Omal: it should have been, "what is the final stage
a star achieves when it collapses upon itself
instead of what is the last stage of a collapsing
star. The last stage of the collapsing star is a
supernova. But, the stage after the supernova when
all the fuel has been burnt up.....
Omal: the final stage is a......
Russ: black hole.
Omal: so both of you were correct because of the
wording of the question.
Omal: so neither of you are wrong....
Omal: the question just was worded poorly.
Omal: being very diplomatic, aren't we?
Russ: you're very diplomatic. But since we got it
Russ: it doesn't matter now anyway. But, yeah, that
was quite interesting. We had a lot of fun with
Omal: uh-huh. Okay, next question.
Russ: okay, for you or me?
Omal: for you.
Russ: ahh. Now then, with these reports that I'm
going to be doing for Mark to Korton......
Russ: I assume will be questions asked of me about
being more detailed about reports.
Russ: okay. And this will be Korton that will be
doing the questioning?
Omal: uh-huh. So best behavior, no Mr. Smarty-Pants.
Russ: that's what I thought.
Russ: say if it was you, well, no problem.
Omal: well I'm not very good on deep analytic work
and when I say deep, I mean DEEP and that's as deep
as I can go.
Russ: right. Being as I haven't been really deeply
questioned by Korton yet.....
Russ: what can I expect?
Omal: the best way to describe it, looking for
analogy, would be sticking your head in a vice and
tightening it up.
Russ: oh good, so it's pleasant.
Omal: why do you think the channeler enjoys it so
Russ: okay, that's good practice for me.
Omal: uh-huh, yes. It will be good practice for your
understanding and enlightenment.
Russ: okay. Now one problem I have is......
Russ: I don't have Mark's......
Omal: military background.
Russ: no, stamina.
Russ: my time spent up there.......
Omal: that is why we're saying that it will be deep.
It will also be fast.
Russ: ahh, good.
Omal: and it doesn't matter if you deliver the
information in bits and pieces as long as the
information is delivered.
Russ: okay good. Because I know he can spent a
couple hours up there and then time translate back.
Russ: whereas me, I'm doing real time 20, 30 minute
Russ: and I don't know how much information I can
impart in that time period.
Omal: you will be surprised at how much will be
drawn out of you.
Omal: some of it will be read, some of it will be
Russ: good. Now then, we were discussing last time a
possible power surge.......
Russ: needed to increase my stamina. This would be
the power negative feedback loop power burst that
Tia and I were discussing.
Russ: okay. So, when do I do that? When I'm down
here preparing to go up or once I get up there?
Omal: yes, yes.
Russ: down here.
Russ: okay. Because I notice when we do our negative
loops up there......
Russ: they have more energy.
Omal: yes, we might start off with, to give you
coaching, do them up here.....
Omal: and down there.
Russ: I was going to suggest possibly starting up
Russ: so I can have better practice for working down
Omal: we will do them in both locations.
Russ: good, that works out perfectly. Okay, question
about the recent dental experience.
Russ: what the hell happened?
Omal: yes,uh-huh. Pregnant women get carried away
Russ: is that what that was?
Russ: somebody let her in or she just kind of walked
in herself I take it?
Omal: what do you think?
Russ: she forced her way in.
Omal: yes, would we let somebody that lively.....
Omal: and that mischievous and all the other things
that she was at the time.
Russ: at the time.
Omal: ahh, question.
Omal: she has been referred to as yo-yo
Omal: what is that?
Russ: I would assume being able to drop her pants at
the drop of a hat.
Omal: ahh, yes, up and down.
Omal: hmmm, okay.
Russ: yes, it's analogy time.
Omal: uh-huh. Next question?
Russ: got a friend of mine at work.......
Russ: that is going to travel to various parts of
Russ: England, France, Germany, so on and so forth.
Russ: and what I suggested to him today, we were
discussing astral projection.......
Russ: and suggested that I would try to track down
some pubs on the street where he would be staying
that he could check out to verify my accuracy.
Russ: being as he has.....
Omal: an interest but is very, very..........sorry,
I cannot find the word.
Russ: unbelieving maybe?
Omal: pretty close, that will do.
Russ: so anyway, we're going to try to possibly
spark not only more interest but a belief.
Russ: and so that's my goal I've set for myself.
Omal: yes and how are you going to proceed?
Russ: well I'm going to look up a street map of
Omal: no, no, no, with this person.
Russ: oh. Basically, I'm going just take it real
Russ: because he has no idea of how I'm getting the
information except that I'm astral projecting and
told him I got the method from a magazine.
Russ: but give him basically the info of what to
Russ: and if he finds it's right, I'll let the rest
do its own work.
Omal: okay, so you're going to proceed with caution?
Omal: okay, that is what we wanted to know. Next
Russ: oh, okay. Navigation......
Russ: we discussed that at a point previously.
Russ: but now in dealing with navigation of streets
on a earth city such as London......
Russ: how exactly is that accomplished?
Omal: you get up above the streets you find on one
of your charting devices, you find a reference point
and presumably they have different types of
buildings marked with different signs and you travel
down the chosen path from above and look for a
likely target. Now presumably, to make life easier
for you, you need a road map.
Omal: okay? And the best place would be in a local
Omal: in the international travel section. Probably
Russ: so I come down onto the street, travel the
street and look for road signs?
Omal: hmm yeah, that might be the best bet.
Russ: because I have to find one particular
Russ: and a particular pub on the street.
Russ: and go and inspect it.
Omal: okay. Next question.
Russ: okay. Going to Sirius.....
Russ: I'd like to set up a time with Tia....
Russ: where we can make a trip.
Omal: okay, how.....
(Tia begins night two of lessons)
Tia: okay, farsighting, lesson five. February the
Tia: ten something?
Tia: oh, 11:25 then. Yes, a little bit of work
trying to figure out your time.
Russ: tricky for us to figure out our time but
congratulations, how are you doing, very well?
Tia: hmm, I'm having fun, you know.
Russ: well that's good.
Tia: did you enjoy our little trip?
Russ: I enjoyed our trip very much.
Russ: and, not the most exciting place in the
world, I'm sure it has its up moments.
Tia: uh-huh. They know how to party when they want
Russ: well that's good.
Tia: uh-huh. Okay, down to business.
Tia: uh-huh. Questions please.
Russ: okay, today I was trying farsighting.
Russ: fell asleep.
Russ: and I woke back up.......
Russ: I found my astral body about a foot up over
my real body....
Russ: at a 90░ angle.
Russ: and for once, this is one time when I had
completely disassociated everything.
Russ: scared me so bad I had to jump back in my
body real quick. How come?
Tia: because you weren't expecting that
disassociation that, to use a Japanese word, Mu.
(Russ laughs at that)
Tia: which means nothing.
Russ: okay. So that is what it would feel like
Russ: when I disassociate.
Tia: and how did you enjoy it?
Russ: scary as hell.
Tia: uh-huh. The first time I'm led to believe it
is but my first time was a long time ago. Eons and
eons and eons ago. Just kidding.
Russ: I know. It was educational feeling.
Russ: kind of weird though. Instead of coming up
through the body, as if my body had popped right
up and out, straight out......
Russ: and then angled somehow or another.
Russ: but why did it happen when I came up out of
sleep? I had no control over it. I didn't will it
that way, it was like that.
Russ: is that because my mind was set towards
Tia: probably, probably.
Russ: so my body kind of cooperated with it.
Tia: uh-huh, yeah. But you weren't fully asleep.
Your subconscious was not disengaging from your
conscious so that the command had been given and
your subconscious cooperated with your conscious.
Meshing these two together is pretty hard to do,
Russ: real hard.
Tia: takes practice.
Russ: okay. Now this evening we're going to be
working on emergency procedures if I remember
Tia: unfortunately no.
Tia: no, because Korton and Mark went off to
Russ: oh, right.
Tia: I don't know what they discuss.
Russ: well, what's the subjects tonight? Just
Russ: oh good.
Tia: we have with us tonight the Hon. Lady
Tia: the Hon. Lady Karra......
Tia: and the right Hon. Sir Omal.
Russ: well that's good.
Russ: okay, now, about our trip the other
Russ: all right. So, any pointers on that?
Tia: hmm, you're still bleeding energy quite a
Tia: which is useful for some people but unuseful
for yourself but you need to be much more focused.
Making that break would be much more helpful
finding yourself, as you did this morning out of
your body like that, would have been extremely
beneficial. If I had been notified I could have
helped you but.......
Russ: oh, sorry.
Russ: alas, alas.
Russ: it was a surprise then for me too.
Russ: but Mark says he's going to help me with the
finer details of making that separation......
Russ: at some point.
Tia: okay, okay. When are you planning to discuss
this because we would like to join in?
Russ: hopefully tomorrow maybe.
Tia: uh-huh, okay.
Russ: I don't know if he's going to be up for it
Russ: but will try to work it out for tomorrow
Tia: we'll see what happens.
Russ: okay, I'll try to notify you folks
Tia: uh-huh. Okay, now then, we're going to go
over the basics again.
Tia: okay. First of all, you get into a nice,
relaxed position. I.e., a reclined position or a
semi reclined sitting position. Whichever is
comfortable for yourself.
Russ: hmm, okay.
Tia: okay? Now it doesn't matter in which order
you do the breathing routine or shutting your
chakras off, it doesn't really matter as
long.......not your chakras, the switches on your
Tia: I always get that wrong, don't I?
Tia: because I don't have to think about it. But
it doesn't matter if you do your legs or the deep
breathing. It doesn't matter in which order you do
it as long as it is done.
Tia: and then feeling yourself get lighter and
lighter until you're drifting out of your body and
then you focus on the desired point that you wish
to travel to.
Tia: and then, gradually accelerating, you leave
your surroundings and head off in the desired
direction picking up fuel or energy for whatever
purpose that you wish. If you wish to accelerate,
you have extra fuel that you can use to boost
Tia: having arrived at your destination, you use
the gravitational field to slow yourself down or,
you can use it as a slingshot to fire you off onto
your next point.
Tia: uh-huh. Now, returning........for example,
let's say you are orbiting the planet orbiting
Sirius, the one that we visited the other day.
Tia: you rotate around it with the gravitational
rotation of the planets maybe two or three times
until it flicks you off in your desired direction
using a slingshot effect.
Tia: you return back to your body and you reenter
it activating the switches so that you are now
whole again. Unless of course you're a
smarty-pants and can do a time translation and
then you're not whole until the allotted time is
Tia: uh-huh. Do you have any questions?
Russ: I've got two.
Russ: well one, I have a problem with my ribs,
where if I lay on my back for too long.....
Russ: they start to really hurt and thinking maybe
this sitting up position might be better for it.
Tia: okay, you can try that. It is a matter of
experimenting on how you feel in whichever
position that you wish.
Russ: right. Okay, the thing is, when we came into
Sirius, I noticed that we came over the top of
Russ: and kind of dove into the gravity well on
the other side.
Russ: to slow ourselves down.
Russ: that was kind of unusual.
Tia: hmm, everybody has their own techniques that
they use. I use a variab.........I use a number of
different techniques. It amuses you that I have
difficulty with worms occasionally?
Russ: something like that.
Tia: uh-huh. Well you've got to remember, English
isn't my native language.
Russ: well you pick it up well.
Tia: uh-huh. Well I try hard.
Russ: now then, what was the difference between
let's say the farsighting we did where I was
bleeding energy all over the place and the
farsighting......or the out of body this morning.
One bleeded, one didn't?
Tia: correct. One is of a more pure nature, the
other is more of a rough and ready nature.
Russ: right, but my problem I find is that to get
to the point I reached this morning.....
Russ: I have to be fairly somnolent.
Tia: yes, it is handy to be in a nice, relaxed
state of mind but not a drug induced state of
Tia: because that lacks the control, you lose your
Tia: you want to go one way and the next minute
you want to go another way and you can get very
disoriented and then be hampered and even harm
Russ: hmm, okay.
Russ: now then, so what I need to do is maintain a
tighter focus on my purpose.
Tia: yes. When you start to travel, right?
Tia: uh-huh. You have to be very focused. You
could focus on your crystal if you want but when
you transport you take it with you, correct?
Tia: so you could hold it out in front of you and
focus on it and also at the same time use your
energy. Kind of hold your arms out in front of you
with your crystal between your fingers as if you
were in a dive from a diving board.
Russ: hmm, okay. I see.....
Russ: kind of like......yeah.
Tia: yeah, you get the idea?
Russ: right and then follow it out?
Tia: uh-huh, keeping it in front of you until it
becomes unnecessary to use it. Use it like that
instead of using it as a power source and
comforter and a focusing point. You can use it
just as a power source.
Tia: but you don't use that much power from it
because you collect quite a bit of power, your own
energy, the energy of the surrounding environment.
Russ: now, to put myself into a trance mode, is
there something besides the basics you gave me to
help out there?
Tia: you could try experimenting with different
techniques. You could try the Zen technique which
I know nothing of. You could try Hindus or what's
that religion in the high mountains of the
Tia: I think it's a form of Buddhism. You could
try the Native American technique. There's so many
different techniques that you can try.
Tia: uh-huh. Okay?
Tia: yes, research more and more and more. And
just when you think you can't do anymore
Russ: more will come.
Tia: uh-huh. Keep you busy, don't we?
Russ: yes you do. Hold on one second, let me check
Tia: Incy Wincy spider went climbing up the spout,
down came the rain and watch poor Incy out. There
once was a lady.......no, I can't remember how
that one goes. There was a young man from Cosham
who took out his false teeth to wash them. His
wife said, "oh Jack, if you don't put them back,
my stamp in the bug was in swashdom". (?). How
many Wookies does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
Russ: how many?
Tia: none, they get somebody else to do it for
Russ: oh God.
Tia: how many space pilots does it take to screw
in a lightbulb?
Russ: how many?
Tia: twenty. First of all, they have to have a
committee meeting to discuss the best ways to
unscrew the first one. No, can't say that one.
Tia: that one's very rude and disgusting.
Tia: but it amuses me.
Russ: oh God. That's a good one though. Did you
make those up yourself?
Russ: that's very good.
Tia: well, I do have other talents apart from
wiggling my hips and a little bit of a farsighter
and learning about healing.
Russ: and guide extraordinaire.
Tia: uh-huh. Talented, aren't I?
Russ: talented. Okay, so I'll work on trance.
Russ: okay. All right, that's all the questions
Tia: okay. Now then, let me think. You'll have to
excuse the worms, that's me trying to think. Hmm,
Tia: well party.
Tia: uh-huh. Scheduled for, I believe it is a
Saturday. Not this one but next one.
Tia: okay? Which is February.......
Tia: right on your......
Russ: amazing coincidence.
Tia: yes it is, isn't it?
Tia: okay. All right, it's going to be an informal
affair so bring yourself and what you're wearing
or what you want to wear.
Tia: there will be food laid out and we are trying
to talk certain hairy individuals into playing
Tia: they have some questions for you as well
which they will probably corner you and ask you
Russ: something about snowboarding probably.
Tia: probably. Don't think we'll have any flowers
Tia: well certain individuals get carried away
with them, don't they? The garden will be open for
Tia: uh-huh. And I shall try to behave myself.
Russ: oh oh.
Russ: okay, so that will be sort of farsighting
Russ: I can't wait to see yourself there at the
Tia: uh-huh. I have got to go and pick an outfit
out as well.
Russ: you will be staying longer this time, won't
Tia: well it depends what happens.
Tia: I mean at the moment, I can't have my fun.
Russ: yeah, I know.
Tia: uh-huh. But in a couple days I'll be able to
have as much fun as I want.
Russ: not far to go.
Tia: oh no. No, certain individuals are going to
have a lot of fun. Okay? Right, let me see,
anymore questions I have for
you......no.....no.......well I'm getting prodded
to answer your question that you asked earlier on.
Hold on a second, I'll get the answer. Okay, the
reason why Ashtar will not go solid down here,
there, wherever, is because, let's hope I can get
it right, that he has a lot to do and it would be
a waste of time to come to your dimension to
satisfy the curiosity of a small minority.
Tia: and what would be achieved by doing this?
Russ: right, so he can though?
Russ: presumably, okay.
Russ: I was not sure.
Tia: okay. Now then, have you contacted, I'm
acting as a relay here.........
Tia: have you contacted, guess who?
Russ: the Beth monster?
Russ: Bethany, right.
Russ: okay yes, we did contact her. I called her
the next day, Mark called her the day after that.
Tia: okay, and did she respond?
Russ: neither called to respond.
Tia: uh-huh. She's having time to mull it over and
she's a busy young lady.
Russ: so yeah, we're still back where we were.
Tia: time. Time and sun melts the snowman.
Russ: we got plenty of it.
Tia: yeah, that's not right though, is it?
Tia: a stitch in time saves the cat......no.
Russ: stitch in time saves nine?
Tia: a stitch in time saves this moment.
Tia: uh-huh. I'm having fun, aren't I?
Russ: oh yeah.
Tia: just amusing myself. You want me to sing for
Russ: yes please.
Tia: hmm, let me think.If I can get this right.
(Tia and Russ sing Frere Jacques)
Russ: well good.
Tia: merci bein Monsieur.
Russ: the French version indeed.
Tia: oui. je m'appelle Tia. Vous appelles Russell.
Russ: tu parles franšais magnifique.
Tia: c'est bon. Je parle franšais por moi? Vous
parle un franšais un peu.
Russ: un petit.
Tia: un petit peu. Okey-dokey.
Russ: thank you Tia.
Tia: it amuses you that I'm multilingual?
Russ: well multilingual.
Russ: very nice. Well it shows a grasp of Mark's
Tia: uh-huh. It is hard work, believe me.
Russ: I do believe it.
Tia: okay, it's time for me to sit on the
sidelines and watch what's going on. So I'm going
to step out and then step out again and I am going
to sit in a corner and watch. Or try to.
Russ: have fun.
(Karra comes on for questions next)
Karra: greetings Beanpole.
Russ: greetings Karra.
Russ: how you doing?
Karra: fine. And who will be joined shortly by a
young lady that is going farsighting.
Russ: ahhh, Tia's dropping off for a visit.
Karra: I wonder where she'll stop by.
Russ: we'll find out.
Karra: it will take her a few seconds, she's not a
master farsighter like some people.
Russ: right, not me.
Karra: okay, do you have questions for me?
Russ: yeah, I do.
Russ: okay, I managed to try a trip today you
might have noticed being as I was there on a ski
Russ: how successful was that from your end of it?
Karra: not bad.
Russ: not bad.
Russ: well, it was only a try.
Karra: uh-huh, practice
Russ: that's true.
Russ: well I was trying to get kind of a
Russ: yeah, kinda like that.
Russ: kind of awareness in two different places at
Karra: that is why it is so hard.
Russ: it was very difficult.
Russ: but if you don't try, it's nothing ventured,
Karra: correct. If you always play it safe, then
Russ: right. But I'll keep trying and keep working
Russ: it's kind of new, what else can I do to kind
of enhance that possibly?
Karra: negative feedback loop.
Karra: patience, determination, and knowledge of
(Russ laughs at that one)
Russ: an answer I wasn't expecting.
Karra: uh-huh, deep and meaningful.
Russ: deep and meaningful indeed.
Russ: okay, did you get a chance to monitor a
certain individual that spent the night here in
the magic room?
Karra: not me personally.
Russ: ahh. It was monitored.
Russ: it was interesting encounter to say the
Russ: still a little weird about it though. I
don't exactly know what or why that happened.
Karra: these things happen.
Russ: seemed like there was a karmic kind of
payback you might say.
Karra: possibly, possibly. Okay, next question.
Russ: all right. Trying to figure out a way to set
up a energy field in my aura......
Russ: that would work........or my shields that
would work on enhancing my farsighting along with
Karra: you should've asked Tia that.
Russ: I know.
Karra: I'm a healer, not a farsighter.
Russ: well that's why I'm asking you about this
because it has to do with working with the aura
within the shields.
Russ: is there a way to program the aura to be
Karra: a battery? To get charged by it?
Russ: right, yeah, that's kind of it.
Karra: hmm, that's a hard one. It's a little out
of my field.
Karra: my field is more the physical body, not the
Russ: oh, okay, I see.
Karra: uh-huh. I can heal quite a few things, I
can fix quite a few things, I can do quite a lot
but when it comes to the astral body, that's not
my line of work. I'm more into physical things.
Weird, how did I do that?
Russ: right leg.
Karra: yeah, but how did I do it?
Russ: I assume you hit the right button.
Russ: you're the one who deals with physical
Karra: yeah, but I normally just use the vocal
Russ: well it seems everybody's been kind of
playing with the body lately. Maybe you just hit
on one of the recently used ones.
Karra: yeah, possibly. I better be careful where I
put my fingers.
Russ: last question.
Russ: how's Klarra?
Russ: is she now?
Russ: so she's able to kind of get on her knees
now, isn't it?
Russ: it's kind of a nice turn for her.
Karra: uh-huh, yes.
Russ: so you're expecting this rapid growth?
Karra: yes, she's a little bit more rapid than I
Russ: well she was an experiment.
Karra: yeah, true, true.
Russ: I mean you have to figure there's going to
be some kind of differences.
Karra: uh-huh. Well I'm so used to a pretty
regular set pattern that infants go through and
she seems to be a little bit ahead in some things
and way ahead in others. When she's old enough, I
think she's going to become a real master
farsighter. Possibly a strong coercer, maybe not
as strong as little sis, and her farsighting will
probably be just above Tia's range. And she is
there I think. Can you see her, or feel her or is
she being stealth?
Russ: I think she's behind me.
Karra: okay, well if she's there then she's there.
She's definitely not here. Well physically she is.
Karra: but spiritually and mentally no, she's not
here. Oh well, let's carry on. When are you going
to try to go solid?
Russ: well I was told not to try until we went
through the emergency procedures.
Karra: oh yes, of course.
Russ: so I can't even work on practicing yet until
I get that down.
Karra: Mr. Korton is busy.
Russ: yes, I know.
Karra: I do have so much I want to discuss and do
Russ: well I'm set with the procedures......
Russ: it's just I can't put them into effect yet.
Russ: but I know what to look for.
Karra: I want to go swimming with you and
sunbathing and all sorts of interesting things.
Russ: well today I got my closest point yet....
Russ: to going to at least going to a solid point.
Karra: yeah, uh-huh.
Russ: separating my body more completely than
usual so it's kind of like a guideline for me.
Russ: I'm kind of anxious to keep practicing on
Russ: so we'll see what happens. In the meantime,
probably going to just practice getting into the
trance mode to where I can just get my body up and
out like a did this morning.
Karra: well that's good. Okay, I'm going to have
to go off because I got two things to do. One is
to change a dirty whatever is.....what do you call
Karra: nappies. So, I'm gonna leave you in the
hands of whomever is going to be available for the
next little bit of chit chat or information or
(A watch beeps)
Karra: and presumably that is 11 o'clock?
Karra: oh, twelve, uh-huh. So....
Russ: farewell Karra, we'll talk to you later.
Russ: okay, bye.
(Kiri follows up
her sister as speaker)
Russ: hi Kiri. I always worry when you do that.
Russ: all right, what's up?
Kiri: what's up, what's up? You know, I know.
Russ: well you're in a good mood.
Russ: all right. So, is Tia here I take it?
Kiri: uh-huh. Yeah, she's sitting in for her
amusement and then all three of us are going to
head down to have a snowball fight and they're
Russ: well be careful where you get hit.
Kiri: oh, I can repel things.
Russ: oh good.
Russ: see, you're a pretty big target.
Russ: just don't turn sideways. Hit the side door
of a Kiri.
Kiri: listen here Buster, if I could move things,
I'd come over and stitch your legs together. I'll
manifest for you, needle and cotton.
Russ: well I feel pretty safe.
Kiri: uh-huh. Think yourself lucky.
Russ: I do.
Russ: well, looking forward to our party coming
Kiri: hmm, not in my current condition.
Russ: well yeah, you're not going to be a party
animal, I'll say that.
Kiri: no, I've got two months and one week......
Kiri: and three days.
Russ: counting them off the calendar, huh?
Kiri: yep. I'm short I think is the expression
that was used earlier on.
Russ: so what else is up, Kiri?
Kiri: between you me and the gate post, I think
Tia's getting, what's the word, broody?
Kiri: she's getting impatient and guess who will
not let her?
Kiri: uh-huh. I don't think it's because they're
not compatible genetically. Probably are
compatible, I haven't seen the reports. It's
probably that they don't want her to at this stage
because she's such a youngster.
Russ: well they'll probably want to see the
results from you and Mark and see if they're
viable at that point or she's next.
Kiri: you think so?
Russ: I think so.
Kiri: I like my current condition, maybe I'll go
Russ: that's not what you were saying two weeks
Kiri: now, I didn't say that I hated my current
Kiri: and I didn't say that I hated Mark.
Kiri: I just said it made me feel uncomfortable,
Russ: you were saying I can't wait this thing to
Kiri: true, but I don't have that menstrual
problem. I don't get mean for three or four days
at a time.
Russ: that's true. That's nine weeks of....
Kiri: nine months.
Russ: nine months of pleasure.
Kiri: quite a bit of pleasure. But it's only maybe
two days at a time instead of three, four, even
five days of, "don't touch me".
Kiri: uh-huh. So which is better? And, when I'm in
a good mood, I can do it whenever I want to.
Kiri: can't get much better than that, can you?
Russ: well you have to put up with all these
pregnant jokes from me.
Kiri: I can put up with those Mr. Invisible Man
when you stand sideways.
Russ: well you wait for the party, it's going to
be a fun time.
Kiri: uh-huh. I'll be there.
Russ: we'll have a party and dancing and good
Kiri: uh-huh. I'll just sit on the sidelines and
talk with anybody that wants to talk. Talk with a
little hooligan and then probably have to babysit
as well. So Klarra can talk with me. She getting
very centered, not so much a little mind anymore.
Russ: more verbal you might say?
Kiri: more verbal mentally instead of just one
word or two words, it's a sentence.
Russ: oh, she's picking up stuff quick.
Kiri: uh-huh. And I hope she likes this one. She
Russ: I think so.
Kiri: it'll be a little plaything for her.
Russ: yeah, I think they'll be real close to
Kiri: uh-huh. Guess what I know?
Kiri: I know what it is.
Russ: you do?
Russ: is this information we can pass on to the
Kiri: well, Omal says it's okay but you know, I
Russ: well I know what it is too.
Kiri: you think so, huh?
Russ: I know so.
Russ: there's only one thing that it could be.
Kiri: it's my choice what it is.
Russ: which means there's only one thing it could
Russ: you, who I said was such a logical
Russ: would choose only the most logical of
decisions to do.
Russ: so there's no question.
Kiri: so what do you think it is?
Russ: it's a boy.
Kiri: pout, pout.
Russ: are you so transparent?
Kiri: probably if I could do Tia's thing I would
be that transparent. No, it is logical, deductive
Russ: is very logical.
Russ: you are very logical girl.
Kiri: but I, actually to tell the truth, have no
choice in the matter nor did anybody else.
Russ: well yes, but with the gene pool that you
guys a work in on is only one thing it could have
Kiri: uh-huh. No, it wasn't you are going to have
a boy. It was, is it going to be a boy, is it
going to be a girl, or do you want us to make sure
it's a boy? And it was, see what happens and this
is what it is.
Russ: yes, but your mind all the time was saying
Kiri: what I wanted and what happened are two
totally different things.
Russ: you think so?
Kiri: hmm, I try not to exert an influence over
Kiri: what I wanted and what I got are the same
thing but there was that certain amount of, is it
going to be or is it not going to be?
Russ: so subconsciously you wouldn't be able to
have any control over.....
Kiri: no, the subconscious cannot.
Kiri: so I try to be as unbiased as possible.
Russ: but now with karmic implications.......
Russ: you or the offspring would choose his
Russ: in this case his parents.
Russ: and so he would know......
Russ: pretty much the way the future would be set
up to plan......
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