Answering the Council and Photonic Power-

Channeled (06/21/1993)

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Archivist Notes: As summer wanes and fall fast approaches, we cap off the summer with by far the most important session as well as the most clearest session of the year. In this channeling session in which Mark Crocker was letting the members of Ashtar Command speaks through him, Korton was the unofficial ringmaster. Two members of the Council of Twelve had arrived on the base and stopped by our session being held in one of the channeling rooms to ask someone from third dimensional Earth about third dimensional Earth. They didn't speaking English so Korton took over asking the questions for them which included questions about my shielding capabilities and psychic skills I had been developing. The questions moved on from me to the human race and its potential to become a psychically operant species and the timeframe I felt it would take before that could happen. Now this was in 1993 and I seem to have logically figured out that it would take at least fifty years and need some worldwide threats to motivate the population to become more conscious. We will see if global warming becomes a key motivating factor in humanity waking up psychically. The two visitors had to leave so Omal comes on to answer questions next. We cover a physics lesson as Omal explains kinetic energy compared to potential energy. It revolves around how psychic gifts work when they use the energy around them and Omal was pointing out that the kinetic energy just now needs and mental nudge to get it going in the form needed for the task. He ends with a lesson on the delay effect of astral projection where after you leave a place, you leave an imprint that fades away eventually but can still be stepped into the astral body if you suddenly return to your physical body. Korton returns to finish out the side with some final questions and I want to know how the shield test he conducted earlier on me had gone in his opinion. At the time, I have been talking to Mark in the living room when I got a warning the test was about to take place. I was slow getting my static shields up over my stacked shields so was penetrated and ended up physically ill from the energy he was sending. It was a valuable lesson that helped me prepare for further tests that came later on. All that is left is working on ways with him to ensure the static shields get placed in time. We would then take a long break where Mark would come back to his body and recharge with some tea before heading back up to the base to now channel from the apartment he shared with Tia and Kiri.

Kiri takes over now as ring mistress on side two and right away we get into the subject of reverse magnetics. To explain, the human body has a magnetic field which is the same on everyone so that when two polarities meet, they repel each other so we were looking at ways of attracting instead. Luckily Kiri has some ideas on how to make that work. We next dive into her favorite subject of coercion as she narrows down the key in doing it successfully is to go pupil to pupil. That is looking to someone's eye to have the best effect with something like mentally saying greetings to them. She then exits out of the channeling field so that her sister Karra can take her place as her and I compare notes on my slightly successful attempt to be more solid on the base in my astral body. After that though is when she gives me the bad news that Tia's pregnancy with the three cubs isn't going well and they will have to be split up. What that means is that Luna would take over the pregnancy of baby Athena thanks to the incredible medical skills of the base geneticist Kornas. We already know the transfer was successful and the births would go off with no problems at all. We next explore a fun topic of photonic power and its role in healing. She describes it as a pulsing energy that can be used like a little jackhammer on areas needing a pulsing bit of energy instead of a laser focused beam. We know from other channeling sessions that to detect photonic energy you need to put your finger in the air and feel for pulsing energy you can just barely sense. As she says, the more experience you get using it, it begins to feel like a vibrational stream of energy when it hits its full potential. We go over reverse magnetics in healing which shields the body like a surgical glove. Finally we go over infrared energy to heat up an area that needs an infusion of warmth to soothe an ache for example. The heat generated is a conscious energy that affects the cells of the body while an electric blanket she says would be unconscious energy being used. She switches places once again with her sister and the question first off is about projecting radio waves from the eyes. That then leads into a conversation on the various forms of consciousness ranging between Alpha and gamma. So she explains that the conscious waves being sent out act on the subconscious of other individuals when the person is in their various forms of consciousness. It's a fascinating conversation dealing with the interactions of waves of thought on people and matter. I run out of questions and so we trade a few old jokes to end the session, one of the better ones and very worthy of the Ashtar Command archives.
 

In love, light, and wisdom as one,
Russ and Karra
                                     

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ATTENDEES
KIRI- Ring Mistress MARK CROCKER (Channel)
KORTON-  RUSS HATFIELD (Archivist)
OMAL-

KARRA-





SIDE 1

1.)(0:00)- Korton asks questions from the two very special guests to the base who want to know about the future of the human race and its potential to become an advanced race with developed psychic powers.
2.)(27:50)- Omal gives a physics lesson in explaining the energy used when using one's psyhic gifts. What he demonstrates is kinetic energy formed from its potential to become whatever energy is needed.
3.)(41:11)- Korton is back to give me the results of a shield test he had sprung on me with no warning earlier that evening. He has good advice and ways to enhance the response time with similar tests.

SIDE 2

1.)(0:00)- Kiri helps to use reverse magnetics when it comes to the body's magnetism and other people. She also has some excellent advice on the use of coercion and how the center of the eye holds the key.
2.)(9:11)- Karra gives us an update on how the pregnancy of Tia is going with the triplets of Mark and Tia and how the three will need to be split up. Luna takes on the pregnancy of one of the three as a last resort.
3.)(0:00)- Kiri goes over the waves of thought from brains explaining that the conscious waves sent by a person act on the subconscious of the person where they have been directed. We also trade a few jokes.

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SIDE ONE


(Korton is the first speaker of a very important night)


Korton: are you prepared for this evening?

Russ: as prepared as I can be.

Korton: okay, then we shall proceed. Omal and myself will be acting as intermediates for the other person's here are some of them have difficulty with your language.

Russ: okay.

Korton: okay, first question is from a colleague of mine and he wishes to know where do you perceive your species going?

Russ: I perceive our species into manifesting itself into the fifth dimension over a long period of time.

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: but basically recovering those skills which were lost so long ago.

Korton: what sort of timeframe would you give for this?

Russ: well, probably using a few natural disasters, fifty years.

Korton: uh-huh, okay. A question from myself, in the past you have been working with shielding techniques.

Russ: uh-huh.

Korton: how useful do you find these?

Russ: well, as with today's experiment, I find them essential.

Korton: uh-huh. Can you explain a little bit more detail please.

Russ: uh-huh. In that we sometimes cannot control our thoughts or projections, myself included but most other members of the human race and therefore shielding by itself is essential to keeping those sometimes accidental projections from either disturbing our thought patterns or draining energy from us either from directed drawing it from us or accidentally. Also, outside influences from those beings who are not human, shields are essential for maintaining an effective guard up against probes.

Korton: uh-huh, okay. A question from another visiting person. The skills that you have, how best do they serve you?

Russ: in that by using them, I can find advantages in dealing with the human condition of survival and gaining assistance from not only my subconscious but other people's energies to help basically the condition of the world around me.

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: for example, coercion used in its best form is an excellent healing tool. The same goes with shielding by being able to help someone else develop their shields, they're able to work better within their environment.

Korton: okay, which skill the use most frequently?

Russ: hmm, presently I'm using farsighting the most but shielding comes in a real close second.

Korton: would you say that your farsighting is stronger than your other skills?

Russ: hmmm, no, actually I would say my coercion is probably the strongest........

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: but again shielding coming up a close second.

Korton: a question from the first person. Would it be better for your species to concentrate on their mind instead of their surroundings?

Russ: absolutely, only because by concentrating more on the mind, you can affect your surroundings.

Korton: how do you come to this conclusion?

Russ: well, whereby without the use of the mind and those gifts, letting your surroundings control you without any work with the mind, you merely just go through the day-to-day life and living. But by working with the mind and achieving those gifts and goals that you set for yourself, you're able to interact more with your environment that is beneficial to both you and everyone around.

Korton: question from the second person. How does your addiction affect your capabilities?

(I was smoking marijuana at the time)

Russ: well, I've had to change my mind on that as a matter of fact. Whereby at first I had thought it was a problem with being able to increase my abilities, I find now that in some instances it can actually be a benefit to learning those. As for example last night with farsighting. Whereby normally I don't like to farsight while high because I can't control my mind and my thought patterns as well as I can when I'm not, last night it freed me from my doubting mode and allowed me to exercise some new techniques which I hadn't put into use before.

Korton: so, this addiction that you have is beneficial for dispelling any doubt that you have. It gives you a confidence boost.

Russ: right.

Korton: question from myself. Sometimes you have this doubt problem. Would it be useful to use this in the learning process?

Russ: no, because then you think too much and the doubts are stronger actually in the first part of it because it kind of reinforces that doubt. It's not till after you've learned your abilities and have been able to exercise your gifts more, that you're able to free up the doubt centers then and do this.

Korton: yes, but by debating with yourself, can you not overcome these doubts by persuading yourself by using the facts that you have at hand to dispel any moral dilemmas or doubts that you have?

Russ: not really, because the facts that you're working with are those that have been ingrained into you since birth.

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: being as that these things aren't possible and it's really figments of your imagination and can't possibly be real.

Korton: yes, but by debating with yourself....

Russ: uh-huh.

Korton: and explaining what you've actually experienced with what you actually believe, isn't experience more powerful than what you perceive or believe?

Russ: true, you have to see to believe it basically. So yeah, debates would be helpful at that point.

Korton: okay. A question from the first member. Where do you see yourself personally evolving within your present lifetime?

Russ: I see myself as evolving to be a master class healer.

Korton: uh-uh, what is your definition of a master class healer?

Russ: Karra.

Korton: explain in more detail please.

Russ: okay.

Korton: this gentleman is not fully versed with Karra's capabilities as he is a visitor from another station.

Russ: well, it would be that being able to project your healing energies into another body and being able to help their mind overcome the mental impossibilities of being able to heal themselves with their minds would be technically a master class healer.

Korton: and, from the second gentlemen, your union with Karra, and I will just briefly explain that this gentleman is fully aware of Karra's capabilities, your union and the fruit of this union, what potential do you perceive them to have?

Russ: the union and the fruit of the union will produce in my own opinion a gene pool that will set the stage for the future. But mostly, the skills and the training that they will learn will make them explore their potentials to their fullest without any interference from doubt or adverse training that say someone from birth would have.

Korton: uh-huh. Okay, again from the second gentlemen, you referred to the gene pool. This presumably would mean the fruits from other unions with other people of your species.

Russ: correct.

Korton: how do you feel about their mental evolution and what do you see as their full potential assuming that they had a wide spectrum of capabilities?

Russ: well, I see that they will, with that wide spectrum of their abilities and training, be able to learn and become master class in various functions instead of just singular functions. For example, instead of being say a master class healer and that's it, you have a master class healer, farsighter or, a master class PK whereby you had skills that can be built upon other skills.

Korton: okay. Now we're going to concentrate briefly on questions from the first individual as he has a limited time so we will concentrate on those questions.

Russ: okay.

Korton: concerning your capabilities....

Russ: uh-huh.

Korton: in an aggressive situation, which capability would you fall back on first?

Russ: shielding.

Korton: isn't shielding not a capability as in the sense of coercion, farsight, psychokinesis, healing?

Russ: well, being able to learn how to use shielding as an aggressive tool, it puts it in a capability that would make it far more powerful than say any others except perhaps coercion.

Korton: okay. Hold on a second. Okay, when you're shielding capability is being used, do you back it up with one of your other capabilities such as coercion?

Russ: yes.

Korton: in what way?

Russ: well, at present it's only hypothetical because I haven't had a chance to really put it to use but in an optimal situation, the best defense is a strong offense. Being able to use an aggressive shield along with aggressive coercion would be basically the ultimate in self-defense.

Korton: hmm. Just a few seconds ago you mentioned using in a defensive mode an offensive mode, where does this theory derive from and does it have any significance in your society?

Russ: uh-huh. Because first off, you have to identify the threat. To do so, you have to put yourself into a defensive mode to counter the threat and then put yourself into an offensive mode to thwart the threat.

Korton: hmm. Isn't it sometimes better to be the aggressor in a situation where the potential for another party to attack you or to be an aggressor towards you, isn't it better to strike them first before they strike you?

Russ: it would be but there's always the chance that you could make a mistake and that your assumptions that it could be a potentially hostile situation might be your own fears coming to the front. So you might strike prematurely at someone who, as it turns out, might not have the same aggression's you were worried about.

Korton: hmm, okay.

Russ: sort of to analyze the situation first to determine the amount of threat being used against you and be able to come up with a rational threat analysis would be a far better offense.

Korton: okay. Have there been any other incidences with your species of advanced usage of various capabilities?

Russ: not to my knowledge, no.

Korton: okay. How do you see your species capabilities evolving? Would such fields as healing, coercion, psychokinesis become more pronounced over many years or would it still remain to a small, select group?

Russ: no, because of the fear chaos theory you might say or better yet, exponential determination whereby you see a small seed that turns into a huge tree. There's no other where else for it to go except to spread outward, it's roots must spread and that's what we're seeing now is those roots spreading. And though apparently on the surface it's a slow growth, it's still a growth and I see that as progressing faster and faster as the years go by.

Korton: okay.

Russ: but I'm an optimist though.

Korton: yes, we understand that. You said that the growth of your species and their capabilities would be a gradual affair. Once the growth starts to become noticeable, do you think that groups would try to accelerate the process or continue cautiously?

Russ: actually, it will be determined I feel through world events. The possibilities of natural calamities or man-made catastrophes could bring those to the forefront and make them accelerate faster. Without those catastrophes are calamities, I see it as being slow and cautious.

Korton: okay, we have one more question from the first gentlemen.

Russ: okay.

Korton: and that is, you speak of your planet's potential, the human potential to cause extreme chaos and devastation. Do you ever see that being curbed or do you see that more as a tool for the mental evolution once you have started on the road to becoming a truly operant species?

Russ: absolutely. There has to be that mind change from this mindset that it's in right now. At present, with our current state of growth psychically, I see a bit of a stalemate that will keep it at a slow growth but with stress applied on a worldwide scale, it would cause more people to look elsewhere for abilities to express what has been hidden inside.

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: so yeah, I see it as essential to get a proper growth.

Korton: okay, he says thank you for your time. Okay, we will continue with the second individual who has a few more questions and then we will hand over to Omal.

Russ: okay.

Korton: your gene pool that you have or have started.......

Russ: uh-huh.

Korton: how sound do you think it is or could it do with more infusion of a slightly different gene plasma from more of your species?

Russ: at present, I think the gene pool is at it's optimal or will be at its optimal strength for study. Basically because adding too many more factors into it would be too much data. At present I think that with the gene pool we have, we'll get a fair representation of what the potentials could be. After that point I feel that adding more factors into it would be the right timing and find the right results.

Korton: okay. Your entertainment for visual stimulation concerning science fiction, how do you see this concerning actual known factors out in your local neighborhood?

Russ: hmm......well, basically I see a lot of our visual entertainment, especially science fiction, as being productive toward expanding people's consciousness. Take for example this evening where the channeler recorded a broadcast of a movie called "Star Wars" in which the use of what's called the force is vividly described and demonstrated. That alone with the amount of people who saw it created a consciousness revival you might say on a worldwide scale.

Korton: yes. Sorry, it amuses the second person that you mentioned "Star Wars".

Russ: oh, okay.

Korton: this thing that you describe as the force.....

Russ: uh-huh.

Korton: do you perceive it as an energy flow of fictitious or do you see it as something that actually exists that was used for entertainment purposes?

Russ: no, I see this as being a very real manifestation of electron energy and being able to harness the electron photon energies around us. The force is merely a term used to describe that.

Korton: hmm. Final question from the second gentlemen. The characters in the movie, particularly the hairy one.....

Russ: uh-huh.

Korton: how close do you think it is to our species? That is the second gentlemen.

Russ: right. Well, being as that we call it the Wookie compound.....

(Russ laughs)

Russ: it's pretty close. I think George Lucas who wrote that basically had an inside edge on this and basically described accurately what he saw. Either in dreams or in actual astral projection and put it down on paper.

Korton: okay. The second individual says thank you very much. Sorry, I can't imitate what he said and it also unfortunately loses itself in the translation.

Russ: okay, we'll tell him I said thank you also.

Korton: I will now handle over to Omal briefly.

Russ: thank you Korton.





(Omal takes over for Korton)


Omal: greetings Russ.

Russ: greetings Omal.

Omal: slightly different format, isn't it?

Russ: slightly different. Sort of like the time we had the Council here.

Omal: yes. This time there is only three of us from the Council. The first gentleman has gone off to talk with Ashtar who was hoping to be present but unfortunately there are other matters that has kept him busy.

Russ: no problem.

Omal: this is going to be a two-part session.....

Russ: okay.

Omal: due to the fact of the physical strain that we are putting on the channeler.

Russ: uh-hmm.

Omal: so we will break when we reach the other side of the tape and then we will continue after the break.

Russ: okay.

Omal: that will also give us time to move to our normal location where we will have the rest of the cast.

(Russ chuckles)

Russ: alrighty.

Omal: okay, now do you have some questions for me?

Russ: yes I do as a matter of fact.

Omal: I shall endeavor to do my best to answer.

Russ: I have no worries whatever. Okay, a lot of what I'm working on now concerns exactly the questions that were answered.

Omal: ahh.

Russ: specifically the energy forms that we're using here. Knowing now the principles for the energy being electron and photon, my question is, it's said that we live in a closed system and that the energy cannot be created or destroyed, specifically mental, spiritual, emotional.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: now, the energy then that is not destroyed, would this be then the energy that we're using constantly?

Omal: yes. A good way to describe it is you understand physics?

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: potential kinetic energy, a quick demonstration. This crystal has potential energy other than its normal energy in the fact that it is here.......

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: that is potential energy. When I release it, thus.....

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: that is kinetic energy that is being used.

Russ: uh- hmm.

Omal: now, I will expend some kinetic energy........sorry, I didn't intend it to disappear.

Russ: it's aroundabout......

Omal: ahh, we have located it.

Russ: there it is.

Omal: okay, this is more demonstration of kinetic energy. Now, it is back as potential energy.

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: and, I shall not work as hard......

Russ: okay.

Omal: we return it to the kinetic state and it is at rest here and it has potential energy.

Russ: ahh, I see.

Omal: kinetic energy, potential, kinetic again, back to potential, and then finally to kinetic again.

Russ: so, the energy that we're using at present is potential energy until we put it into use.

Omal: correct.

Russ: now, so we could basically it could be called kinetic at one point, be called mental, or spiritual, there's different forms of the same energy.

Omal: yes, there is different forms depending on its use. All energy is energy until it is used. It is all potential depending on what you use it for varies in its name but it is still energy.

Russ: now does this energy, could you say have a consciousness?

Omal: hmmm, in its raw form, no. Refined, used, and focused, you could say yes but in a limited way.

Russ: so in other words, you could direct this energy and the energy would mimic those thought waves you put into it.

Omal: correct.

Russ: and so, say for example I want to send Joey a little message of love. I would direct the energy from me into kinetic energy from myself to Joey. At the point it reaches Joey, you could say the energy had a consciousness that it's projecting love to Joey.

Omal: you have a new person present?

Russ: oh, the cat.

Omal: oh, sorry.

Russ: that's all right. The channeler's cat. But anyway........

Omal: oh.

Russ: theoretically, that would be the consciousness of the energy then, it's whatever we.....

Omal: whatever you desire it to be, you mold it and shape it but you cannot create it as it already exists in the potential form.

Russ: correct.

Omal: okay.

Russ: all right.

Omal: there are however a few clauses you might say, subclauses and one is dealing with vacuums and if, and this is a very hard analogy to use, you have a cable that is totally smooth, no friction and it stretches on for infinity. There is no gravitational deviations, for both an object of the aforementioned size would definitely produce some, but if there was no gravity produced by this and you had a perfectly spherical object, again totally frictionless, and you were to sit it on the table it would have potential energy. But once you push it it would be using kinetic energy.

Russ: right.

Omal: however, it would not stop and rest because in the vacuum of space there is no friction to stop it.

Russ: it would go on into infinity.

Omal: infinitely in the kinetic state.

Russ: hmmm.

Omal: recycling the energy over and over again but never coming to the state of rest of potential energy.

Russ: ahhh.

Omal: that is one clause.

Russ: so you could apply that here in the fact that once you send that energy out, until it is stopped by whatever you directed it at or something in between, it will continue on without rest.

Omal: correct, as energy does not concern itself with the laws of friction.

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: one of the side effects of friction is heat which can be collected, and stored, and recycled.

Russ: right.

Omal: but without friction, this cannot happen.

Russ: but now if energy is directed out towards something and that something affects that energy, wouldn't the air molecules in between also affect that energy?

Omal: yes.

Russ: so essentially, that energy would be slowed down until it reached that object.

Omal: yes, but it is so minute, it is almost unperceptible....imperc.....you know what I mean.

Russ: right. What about through say walls?

Omal: that would slow it down somewhat.........

Russ: okay.

Omal: but it depends on how strong the energy wave is. I see you are asking a question on farsighting.......

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: and penetration of objects. Depending on the capability of the individual depends on how well you can penetrate walls and rocks. It does not only rely on the energy flow, it also relies on the desire to penetrate by that individual.

Russ: now the astral body is made up of various gases and energy.......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: specifically heat.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: now when you approach a solid with your astral body, you effectively part the molecules that are holding that solid object in place.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: if you were to draw energy from those same molecules you're parting, you'd have no loss.

Omal: correct.

Russ: so the idea is to have a frictionless astral body.

Omal: correct.

Russ: I see.

Omal: okay, next question.

Russ: okay. Now then, last night after I got into Karra's bed with my astral body, I popped back into consciousness in my earth body here. And at that point I popped sort of back and forth. I practiced finding my consciousness there, here, there, here.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: how was it that I can keep my astral body there, my physical body here and go back-and-forth?

Omal: because of the delay affect. You see, when you leave here.....

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: you leave an energy trace.......

Russ: hmmm.

Omal: which is almost a replica of you and then it fades away as the energy dissipates and returns to different states. But if you're traveling backwards and forwards, then the energy flow is still there and is held in shape by you switching backwards and forwards.

Russ: ahhhh. So my astral body actually is coming back and forth.....

Omal: yes.

Russ: but the energy I left there would fit the astral body perfectly.......

Omal: correct.

Russ: because it just left. I see. Now, one thing last night is I felt a physical pull around my shoulders which I wanted to follow but I couldn't release.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: now, would it be optimally........I've never felt this before but should I have released or found a way to release?

Omal: yes. Presumably this was something to do with your addiction?

Russ: correct.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: it was just this like somebody just grabbed my shoulders and said come on, you're going with me. But I couldn't let go of everything except my shoulders.

Omal: uh-huh. Did you feel any particular sensations from this or was it no sensation apart from the
pulling effect?

Russ: just the pulling effect like somebody had a huge vacuum and I was kind of being sucked up.

Omal: did you feel any uncomfortableness or did you feel as if you wished to accept this?

Russ: well, I felt no uncomfortableness, I wanted to accept it.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: but I could not find the mental releases to let it go. Because I felt if I had, it would've been almost a solid form of myself going.

Omal: uh-huh, okay. I will look into this. Korton has returned and I will hand over to Korton now.

Russ: okay, thank you Omal.

Omal: you're welcome.





(Korton takes over as speaker again)



Korton: greetings once again.

Russ: greetings again Korton.

Korton: okay, let us proceed with questions.

Russ: okay, I'd like to go on with the test that we had this evening.

Korton: yes.

Russ: okay, thank you by the way.

Korton: you're welcome.

Russ: all right. Now then, when I first got the warning in my right ear that to raise shields......

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: it started off with just my basic shields and worked up through my next three without the static shielding...

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: so I went through my basic shields and then the three stacked shields and still got penetrated through for a time until I finally got my static shields built up and stopped it.

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: at least I was physically ill practically for the rest of the night.

Korton: yes. You want how I rate you on that?

Russ: yes, and then we'll go over the other basics in a second.

Korton: okay. A little bit slow in response, a little bit sloppy with your static screening as that should have been thrown up directly after you had put up your stacked screening with as little delay as possible.

Russ: right.

Korton: see, the less delay the less chance of penetration. Once penetration has happened, then throwing up static screening is a frivolous expenditure of energy.

Russ: ahhh. But I was trying to deal with Mark and talk to him, maintain shields and static would have cut all that out so I should've stopped talking to Mark.

Korton: yes.

Russ: okay, now, and the question is, would it have been a better solution to work backwards? Start with static screens and work down.

Korton: it is allowing yourself room to work in. You see, if you miscalculate on the room that you wish to work in, then you'd have to cut out one of your shields or make them thinner.

Russ: hmmm. But with practice, I could know exactly where to set it all up at.

Korton: yes.

Russ: okay. So if I could get that practice down to a science, then it would be feasible.

Korton: correct.

Russ: good, could I get tested again in the future?

Korton: yes, possibly.

Russ: okay. We'll leave it as an option for...........I think, well even though yes, I do get physically ill practically, the lessons I learned are had to be learned and I'm glad I did.

Korton: yes.

Russ: so I look forward to anymore lessons I can gain from that.

Korton: you're welcome and you will receive possibly some more lessons.

Russ: good, it's essential I think.

Korton: okay, next question.

Russ: okay. Primitive auto conscious which is basically allowing the subconscious to move into control at a seconds notice......

Korton: yes.

Russ: to where you've got to plan out exactly how it should be done and you will let it slap in. With the shielding's afternoon, I think it would be quicker and a better response time if I can get that primitive auto conscious in to where it could put it up without my consciously having to set up each shield and so on.

Korton: okay.

Russ: what would be a way where I could enhance that auto conscious?

Korton: okay, let me see. A way to enhance it would be through first understanding the principles of it and that would be best achieved by reading and listening to information that you can find in your literature and then discussing it with us so that by doing so you can learn more about it through discussion.

Russ: oh, okay. Yes, the book I'm working on that deals with this is called cyclomancy.

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: and so far it giving me an idea into the basic mechanics of energy work.

Korton: yes.

Russ: okay, now, one of the things that it is discussing is using the astral body for various skills. For example, PK, manifestation, astral projection of course and so on.

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: with that.........


            
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SIDE TWO


(Kiri is now in charge of things)



Kiri: I'm going to have to try and fool you one of these days.

Russ: quit moving your feet so much then.

(Russ laughs)

Kiri: is that better? Huh?

Russ: yeah, now you can fool me.

Kiri: okay. I can't help it.

Russ: then you'll never be able to fool me.

Kiri: well, maybe I can work on it, huh? What do you think?

Russ: I don't think you have to worry about it.

Kiri: okay.

Russ: so, what's our schedule ring mistress?

Kiri: ohh, ring mistress, huh? How about I change my name to Alvera, Mistress of Darkness?

Russ: Elvira?

Kiri: is that right, Elvira?

Russ: uh-huh, Elvira.

Kiri: uh-huh, okay. So, what we're going to do is we will relax, real cool, hip, and mellow. Any questions from you, huh?

Russ: questions?

Kiri: what's the channeler been drinking?

Russ: hot chocolate?

Kiri: ahhh. Has it all over his mustache. I suppose you could say he's saving it for Ron? Later Ron?

Russ: later Ron. Yeah, I guess you could say that.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: well dear, let's talk about reverse magnetics.

Kiri: we can try.

Russ: all right, fair enough being as this is in the coercive field you might say.

Kiri: are you drinking hot chocolate? It doesn't smell like it.

Russ: no, it's cinnamon apple tea.

Kiri: but doesn't tea come from the Chinsus Japonika?

Russ: well yeah and then you add some cinnamon and some apple in with it.....

Kiri: ahhh.

Russ: boil it in water and that's what you get.

Kiri: ohh.

Russ: reverse magnetics.

(Kiri growls)

Russ: and this is for attracting others.

Kiri: ohhhhhhh. We're talking about people?

Russ: uh-huh. And what we have here is whereby two people coming together have the same magnetic field on the front of their bodies, a natural polarity tends to not attract, the opposite of attraction....

Kiri: repel.

Russ: repel each other, correct.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: so two people coming together naturally repel each other.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: now, reverse magnetics is where you change the magnetic polarity of the front of your body..........

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: so that you attract each other.

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: male or female, doesn't matter.

Russ: right. How's that work mentally? How do you mentally command your polarities to change?

Kiri: ohhhhh, tricky, tricky question.

Russ: I thought you wanted tricky questions.

Kiri: yeah I do, makes me think.

Russ: there you go.

Kiri: whirrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.....okay, how it works........if I can get this right, I'm not great at explaining it, I can demonstrate it much better......is by changing your magnetics, what you do is put it front about-face. Ass about-face.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: and how do you do that?

Russ: right.

Kiri: very carefully because it can goof you up. Like me sometimes.

Russ: I'll bet.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: but is there a certain switch you throw or is there....?

Kiri: it's more along the lines of visualizing yourself as a magnet and seeing it upended so that you have the south side facing north and the north side facing south or whatever or facing the person.

Russ: so, essentially you'd see an auric field around you, you'd see a magnetic field.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and so what you need to do is to visualize your energy in front of you drawing in like a magnet?

Kiri: uh-huh, yeah. See, you have the magnet and it kinda goes like this.......

Russ: right.

Kiri: but if you go and it goes like that......

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: I'm getting good hand eye coordination, aren't I?

Russ: yes you are.

Kiri: if I do it slowly, it's seeing, looking at the hologram and then seeing me move hands......but you get the general idea. Instead of going.......

Russ: right, you go the other way.

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: okay, I get it.

Kiri: uh-huh. You want me to demonstrate?

Russ: oh sure.

Kiri: come up here and I'll demonstrate.

(Russ laughs again)

Kiri: actually, you won't get to me that way, it will have to be mentally and I'll have your mind going kapew, kapew, kapew. You know, that is one of the joys of being pregnant is that you don't have to have, how do you call it? The woman's curse?

Russ: uh-huh, that's right, the menstrual cycles.

Kiri: uh-huh. Okay, next question.

Russ: alrighty. Now then, in coercion......

Kiri: uh-huh. 

Russ: what part do your eyes play?

Kiri: they play a very vital part. It's looking right into the iris so it's basically black on black. Or red on red depending on whose eyes you're looking into.

Russ: okay. Now then......

Kiri: right in the center of the eyes, the pupil, right in that little dark spot.

Russ: right. Now do wearing contacts affect that at all?

Kiri: a little, a little. It's more of a protection for you.

Russ: oh really?

Kiri: yeah, it stops you from getting coerced. Like, if you were to coerce me, right?

Russ: right.

Kiri: it would be harder for me to turn around and coerce you back if I sense the same power.

Russ: because the energies are closer to me coming through than they would be to you.

Kiri: that's right, it would be dissipating.

Russ: I see.

Kiri: but, because I'm better than you, it doesn't make it any difference whatsoever.

Russ: so we're about equal then?

Kiri: yeah right.

(Russ laughs loudly)

Kiri: it makes a plain bit of difference to you. Isn't that what you are without your contacts?

Russ: yeah, just about. Oh well, it's fun to think about anyway.

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: okay. That's all the questions I have on coercion.

Kiri: ohhhh, party pooper. Let's see who I can go and coerce. I suppose I could coerce big sis to coerce you. Nah, she can't coerce to save her stockings.

Russ: okay, fair enough.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: all right, well have fun darling, I'll talk to you later.

Kiri: huh trying to get rid of me?

Russ: you're already on the way out.

Kiri: no I'm not.

Russ: yes you are.

Kiri: says who?

Russ: you did.

Kiri: no I didn't, I never said I'm out of here. And I said I was going to, not I will be which implies I will be departing imminently, says I will be. Nevermind, I'm getting all confused. I'm getting out of here.

Russ: bye sweetheart.

Kiri: don't try to coerce me buddy, otherwise I'll come down there and I'll zap your brains.

Russ: okay, have a wonderful night darling.

Kiri: I'm out of here.

Russ: bye sweetheart.





(Karra takes over from her sister as speaker)



Karra: and what have you been eating beanpole?

Russ: drinking actually, tea.

Karra: ahh, makes your stomach rumble.

Russ: rumbling like a monster. Well Karra my darling......

Karra: yes.

Russ: how are you?

Karra: does that answer your question?

Russ: yes it does.

Russ: so how did that go last night?

Karra: it went all right. It was little bit strange for a while.

Russ: uh-huh, I agree.

Karra: getting very firm around the edges, aren't you?

Russ: hmm, a little bit, but felt a lot better......

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: in more ways than one.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: but I haven't quite got the ticket yet down how to maintain that other constant level.

Karra: practice.

Russ: I know.

Karra: now, I've got a question for you.

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: Mark just said.....and he just made this......your Majesty. Why?

Russ: oh, it's about a movie that he just watched with Charlton Heston called "The Awakening" and in there is a character there called Queen Kara.

Karra: ohhh, I'm a queen am I?

Russ: you are to me.

Karra: ohh.

Russ: my namesake.

Karra: uh-huh, okay. All right, first of all, the bad news.

Russ: oh.

Karra: we are going to split up kittens.

Russ: that's good news too.

Karra: yeah, good and bad news. The reason being is that we have to increase the sedation daily.

Russ: ohhh.

Karra: it has to be increased daily because of their mental growth. And there is no way that we can stop them from playing, fighting, chasing each other, messing around and being generally mischievous. Take after their mother a little bit, don't they?

Russ: that makes sense.

Karra: uh-huh. So we're going to have to split them up which means a few more days of uncomfortableness for poor Luna. But she's already been moved down to the little..........it's not actually a little room, it's the room next door to the genetics lab. You know which one?

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: the one that we go into sometimes? Or will do in the future.

Russ: we will do in the future.

Karra: we've got two largesh beds in there, we've got a whole load of monitoring devices, it's going to be quite cramped in there.

Russ: hmmm.

Karra: and we have a couple of technicians that are going to work with them for the time being and then Kornas and myself will be in a cool, what would you call it? The maternity room?

Russ: uh-huh. A maternity ward?

Karra: yeah. ward, what they ward?

Russ: a part of the hospital where they keep the babies.

Karra: oh.

Russ: and then you've got an intensive care ward, a maternity ward......

Karra: a pediatric ward? I think I know what you mean.

Russ: right.

Karra: but doesn't it also describe a room?

Russ: yeah.

Karra: hmmm, or somebody that is made a ward of your legal system?

Russ: yeah, a ward of the court.

Karra: hmm, it's a very confusing word. Oh well, nevermind.

Russ: English grammar.

Karra: uh-huh, one word meaning many things. So, we're going to move Luna in there first and I'm told not to go and tell Tia that that's what we're going to do. She should be very mellow at the moment because when Mark left her earlier on she was, although mobile, suffering a little bit. She's getting good at masking her pain, you know?

Russ: that's good.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: so Mark hasn't told her yet?

Karra: hmmm, probably as we talk.

Russ: good, because he keeps fudging on it and so I wanted to make sure. But at least if she finds out about it, she'll deal with it the best way she can.

Karra: no, I don't think at the moment she would care because we doped her up again.

Russ: again?

Karra: from the original amount that we started off giving her which was about five CC's, so we're now up to about fifteen.

(Russ whistles)

Karra: and if we go any higher it's going to get to the stage where she will sleep for twenty-three out of twenty-four hours which isn't good for her because she cannot get enough protein in her system by doing that. And she cannot get enough activity to bear enough protein that she could get in so she'll put on excess weight and it will be very harmful and detrimental to her health.

Russ: I see. At least now she will get the help she needs.

Karra: uh-huh and she should get more like her normal self.

Russ: well good.

Karra: uh-huh. So we'll probably start the procedure.........hmmm, two days from now would be Monday night?

Russ: so today's Saturday so then Monday night, right.

Karra: yeah, that's when we'll be starting the procedure.

Russ: okay, when do I need to be there at?

Karra: probably Tuesday evening because it's quite a long, drawnout thing so I won't be available for about twenty-four hours.

Russ: alrighty, are we doing the regular Tuesday session that night.....

Karra: yeah.

Russ: or are we canceling?

Karra: yeah, it should be over by about the time the session starts.

Russ: okay, so I'll farsight up there.....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: hang out in the background outside until I know if I'm needed or not...

Karra: yeah.

Russ: and popout and head for the......

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: the session.

Karra: so we will be finished by about seven o'clock of your evening.

Russ: this will be very tricky.

Karra: uh-huh. Don't worry, I'll keep an eye on the time for you.

Russ: okay.

Karra: okay but unfortunately for about a 24-hour period I will not be available.

Russ: well that's all right darling.

Karra: but you can go in hang out with Kiri.

Russ: okay.

Karra: she seems quite taken with you at the moment.

Russ: that's true. Here's the question I've got though........

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: with my not necessarily huge amounts of times that I farsighted or time that I spent up there while farsighting, what would be the optimal range of my abilities to get up there and wait let's call it a time 6 o'clock to 7 o'clock?

Karra: yeah, that would be best.

Russ: it would be about my max.

Karra: uh-huh. Best bet would be to come up at 6:30, that way it would give you enough leeway.

Russ: okay.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: well, 6:30 on Tuesday then, alrighty.

Karra: yeah. Okay?

Russ: okay.

Karra: and the little one, what's her name? Hold on a second, Athena?

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: yeah, she's.....

Russ: a manifestor.

Karra: yeah right, dream on buddy.

Russ: sweet dreams.

Karra: sorry, I've got to behave myself. I got a little carried away last night.

Russ: oh, that's all right.

Karra: uh-huh, but........

Russ: I live for it.

Karra: uh-huh. Well, now, we got over the good, the bad and the ugly news, now, what do you want to know?

Russ: okay, now then, I was being asked a few questions earlier upon my potential....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: and said basically that I'm looking forward to becoming a master class healer like yourself.

Karra: well thank you.

Russ: but to do so, I need to gather up about a bunch more energy to be able to do so. Now with that, I need to find out more about photonic energy.....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: or photonic power..........

Karra: okay.

Russ: and what that has to do with healing.

Karra: well that is the pulse energy that you can emit into your subject.

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: and how you get it is by..........and I hear you furiously scribbling away there. Is it in  Arrararara...........is it in Chinese?

Russ: it looks like Chinese, yeah.

Karra: Aramaic....

Russ: yeah.

Karra: is what I was trying to say.

Russ: very good.

Karra: okay, what you have to do is separate all the energy around you beforehand, right? And you will see different types of energy.

Russ: okay.

Karra: and you pick out the one that feels pulsing.

Russ: ohhhh.

Karra: and you stick it into an energy cell and keep on plugging it in and pushing it in and pushing it in and pushing it in and pushing it in and out and in and out and in........sorry, pushing it in until you can't get any more in. Then you go over to your subject and working very carefully and very fine focus, best to use some artificial aid like a crystal or a scalpel crystal, you pump the energy in......

Russ: okay, I see.

Karra: but in a steady stream. And because it is a pulsing energy, it tends to batter the affected area. Also, if you want to become a master class, you gotta sit down and read some more unfortunately.

Russ: uh-huh, my anatomy book?

Karra: yeah. One of these days I will test you.

Russ: oh boy.

Karra: I'll stand up and I'll say, "now explain the function of and I shall select a part of the anatomy.

Russ: now, the brain horns.....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: and their function in healing.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: the brain horns being the optic nerves connected with the retina.......

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: and the brain waves going straight to the optic nerves, to the retina which transforms it then into light energy. This would direct that pulsing energy?

Karra: yes.

Russ: and this is what would find the difference between the two kinds of energy.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: now, when I'm looking to separate these energies and find the one that pulses, I've never done this before or recognized it as such. How am I going to recognize the pulse energy?

Karra: you'll know it when you come across it.

Russ: oh.

Karra: excuse me, I'm going to have to talk to Kiri for a second. She's come back, she's got a package and she's also tickling my feet with a feather. Okay.

Russ: ahh, sisters.

Karra: yes.

Russ: okay, now then, by sending this pulse energy in through the crystal.....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: would the energy be amplified, the pulsations amplified then once through the crystal?

Karra: and focused.

Russ: amplified and focused.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: so therefore until you can get the pulsings down to a fine art......

Karra: yeah.

Russ: the crystals will help enhance that energy.

Karra: well, it's always useful to use them because you can get a much finer focus. You see, the best way to start off is with pulsing energy is to do it slowly so it pulses slowly. This takes longer to work, it's also good learning for you. Now when you start to accelerate it, it works better and again it is a good learning experience. When you reach the full potential of it, like it is almost a steady stream that feels more vibrational.......vibrational.......it vibrates a lot.

Russ: okay, now......

Karra: it amuses you that I'm having difficulty with words?

Russ: well sometimes.

Karra: oh, okay.

Russ: it means you're human or.........just an expression.

Karra: I'll take that as a complement.

Russ: well it is.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: now then, the difference I can see then with between pulsing energy would be photonic energy.....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: but non-pulsing energy would then be the electronic energy.

Karra: correct.

Russ: so just see the difference.

Karra: uh-huh, yes.

Russ: ahhh. So it would be kind of like using a jackhammer.

Karra: hmm, a what?

Russ: it's a human construction tool where you work on streets and tear up the asphalt.

Karra: ahh.

Russ: you use a bit that gets driven in real fast....

Karra: okay.

Russ: and pounds.

Karra: okay, I have another question.

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: what is asphalt?

Russ: oh, it's what we make our streets out of.

Karra: ahh, okay. I've got a rough idea.

Russ: right, it's that black top stuff when you're driving.

Karra: oh, okay.

Russ: okay. So, it would work the same way.

Karra: same way as what?

Russ: a jackhammer.

Karra: what's a jackhammer? Sorry, I'm being silly.

Russ: that's all right.

Karra: I can't help it. Well according to Kiri, she just said I'm radiating.

Russ: ohhhh.

Karra: blooming like a wildflower. Okay, next question.

Russ: okay, I was asking Kiri about reverse magnetics.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: and for use to attracting others. Now, you working with a patient.....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: would have a natural rappelling affect....

Karra: yeah.

Russ: on the patient.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: so to combat that, do you have to reverse your magnetics.....?

Karra: no, it is useful to have that because it protects you, the healer.

Russ: oh it does?

Karra: yes.

Russ: why?

Karra: why? Because it is necessary sometimes for you to be protected. It is more like a whole entire surgical glove for the body.

Russ: oh, I see. So it's kinda like another form of shielding?

Karra: uh-huh, but only for healing.

Russ: hmmm.

Karra: it protects me from picking up any.........actually, it can be used in other things too which can be very interesting.

Russ: I hope you show me.

Karra: I will.

Russ: good. Oh, in other words, you wouldn't attract that problem they have......

Karra: that's right.

Russ: if your magnetics are at the right spot.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: or the repelling energy will try to suck you in.

Karra: that's right. Korton has been excused so it's just Omal here now. He's kind of...........that's funny, they're struggling over a feather.

(Karra giggles)

Russ: didn't he do that last time?

Karra: I think so.

Russ: I do too.

Karra: Kiri, a quick description of her, she's wearing a toga type thingy with red trim and gold trim and she's grinning like a maniac and Omal is trying to get it from her but she's running around.

Russ: too much. All right now, one last question I think.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: infrared radiation......

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: projecting such through the eyes or hands into the person.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, now, how do you.............now this is different from the pulsing energy?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: how would you discern that you're sending infrared radiation then? You can feel it?

Karra: that's right, you can do that.

Russ: okay.

Karra: demonstration. Put your hand above the crystal.

Russ: all right.

Karra: tell me what you feel. Come in closer.......

Russ: heat.

Karra: there.

Russ: more heat.

Karra: that's right. What energy is that? Okay, that's enough.

Russ: that's infrared?

Karra: that's riiiiiiiight.

Russ: ohhhh. I see, so it's not a visible rays.

Karra: that's right. What's that noise outside.

Russ: oh, it's a Volkswagen engine.

Karra: ohh.

Russ: I see, and so the infrared has abilities to work on distant healing, tranquilizing your patient.....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: and other things.

Karra: what's a Volkswagen?

Russ: it's an automobile that drives on the blacktop which we call asphalt.

Karra: ahhh, that you work with on jackhammers.

Russ: that's right.

(Russ laughs)

Russ: I think you've got the hang of it now.

Karra: okay.

Russ: okay. So in healing, well there's two more kinds of heat or energy, radiant heat, infrared, radio waves, and the body magnetism.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: the first one is heat.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: now what was the difference between what you just showed me, radiant heat and infrared?

Karra: because radiant heat can be used to help in the healing process, it is also a byproduct. Infrared, is it?

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: infrared is on the visible spectrum or actually invisible spectrum.

Russ: hmmm.

Karra: and again, that produces some heat but not as much as previously mentioned.

Russ: so theoretically, we're just basically sending the infrared and the radiant follows.

Karra: yeah.

Russ: ahh, okay. So that basically would sending that energy in, the heat.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: would affect those cells in the body.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: because of hot?

Karra: uh-huh, like me.

Russ: couldn't you just put like an iron on them or something or an electric blanket?

Karra: no, it's better to use the heat that is generated, you see.

Russ: oh, that's true. Because this is going back to our conversations earlier that I had with Omal and Korton, a almost conscious form of energy.

Karra: correct.

Russ: whereas the heat from an electric blanket would be unconscious.

Karra: correct.

Russ: okay.

Karra: okay, now, I've got to go and change and I want to have a look at Luna's package.

Russ: okay.

Karra: see you in a few.

Russ: all right sweetheart.

Karra: bye.

Russ: bye.





(Kiri is back to finish out the night)


Russ: hi darling. You got your feather taken away from you, did you?

Kiri: I gave it away.

Russ: you gave it away.

Kiri: uh-huh. Omal wanted to put it in the incinerator. He's a party pooper, isn't he?

(Russ laughs )

Kiri: he's just here acting as law enforcement. Apparently, in the past where it was just being myself, big sis, or Tia, we get in a little bit rambunctious......

Russ: noo.

Kiri: so, we have either Korton or Omal, they don't necessarily channel but they said in to behave, to make sure we behave ourselves. Because somebody went blabbing about energy levels taking wild swings. It wasn't you, it wasn't the channeler, it was one of the technicians.

(Kiri blows a raspberry)

Kiri: that to the technician. Oh, that came through there, didn't it?

Russ: yep.

Kiri: oh well.

Russ: all right. Answer me this please if you could. Radio waves from the eyes for psychic power projection.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: how do you send radio waves?

Kiri: well, it's thought waves as well.

Russ: oh, that's all it is?

Kiri: yeah. It's not listening to the top forty or Radio One or KOZZ.

(Russ laughs again)

Kiri: yes, we hear what you listen to sometimes. Or the Point?

(A local radio station) 

Kiri: is there a point to this conversation?

Russ: don't worry, I haven't figured it out either.

Kiri: yeah. But no, it is thought waves.

Russ: oh, okay. Now, the different forms of thought waves or......

Kiri: radio waves or whatever.

Russ: right. Could also be broken down into five various forms of consciousness.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: alpha, beta, delta, theta and gamma.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, when sending these radio waves, are you working on another person's beta side of the waves or somewhere else?

Kiri: somewhere else.

Russ: could it be alpha?

Kiri: possibly, it's going to be awkward.

Russ: yeah.

Kiri: okay, I'll be serious, I hear the irritation in your voice. Okay, now if you project alpha waves....

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: right?

Russ: right.

Kiri: or conscious waves, it works on the subconscious ones. Catch my drift?

Russ: no because what you said sounded like it was backwards.

Kiri: well......

Russ: if I'm sending alpha waves it works on their subconscious or if I'm sending beta and it's working on their subconscious?

Kiri: well, I can never remember which is which.

Russ: all right, alpha subconscious wave is conscious.

Kiri: okay, it's beta them.

Russ: okay, so sending conscious waves acts on their subconscious.

Kiri: that's right.

Russ: okay. Now, because the waves vibrate at different frequencies between alpha and beta.......

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: does that mean that you slow down your beta waves on the way there?

Kiri: no, you slow down theirs.

Russ: okay. Now if they're dealing in beta form.....

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: to where they're totally conscious, they don't recognize that their alpha waves are being worked on?

Kiri: that's right.

Russ: all right. Now, how do you specifically direct your waves to their alpha simulation?

Kiri: by sheer power and rate. Very rapid, that's the rate and the power is a lot of energy. More energy than they're expending.

Russ: okay, I see. Now if we were to use this against someone who had a psychic ability that was directed against you? Would it be better to work upon their delta centers then which is their psychic power center?

Kiri: that's right, knock them out.

Russ: okay. So normal people you would with alpha, with someone with psychic abilities you work on their delta.

Kiri: correct.

Russ: ohhh. Now, with delta being slowed down their waves?

Kiri: yes, that's right. The idea is if you're in a mental confrontation, right? Is that you've got to overwhelm them.

Russ: right.

Kiri: to beat them, correct?

Russ: correct.

Kiri: you want to try on me? Party pooper.

Russ: I know when I'm outgunned.

Kiri: not only outgunned but outmaneuvered.

Russ: no argument.

Kiri: I'm better and more faster. I could suppress your waves so fast you wouldn't even know what hit you.

Russ: apparently you'll have more fun.

Kiri: sorry, you'll have to excuse me, I feel very full of life and I'm happy and I'm contented and Alex is being great.

(Her son with Mark)

Russ: all right.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: that's great on all accounts then.

Kiri: yeah, I feel so wonderful. I feel so harmonic.

Russ: you look harmonic.

Kiri: blow on me and I shall make funny tunes.

Russ: okay, good. So, that gives me an idea on how to deal with threats....

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: or otherwise.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: okay. Now what if you're not sure if they are psychic but you might have an inkling of an idea? It wouldn't hurt them to work on their delta anyway, would it?

Kiri: no, no.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: it'll just speed up the process and drain more energy from you.

Russ: I see. So working with delta would be tougher?

Kiri: that would be a frivolous expenditure of energy.

Russ: hmmmm.

Kiri: see, making you think for a change happens instead of me sitting down and telling you what to do. It's good for you.

Russ: absolutely.

Kiri: that's what Omal says anyway.

Russ: correct.

Kiri: a message from Omal, put out your hand and MANIFEST!!!!!!! Manifest..........and he's shaking his head and saying he's joking.

Russ: I know. Okay, so with the force, the dark side of the force and the light side of the force are using the same energies but with different intentions.

Kiri: that's right. You've been watching that movie again, haven't you?

Russ: well, I'm going to watch it again tonight.

Kiri: uh-huh, okay.

Russ: I can't believe it......

(Kiri blows another raspberry)

Russ: I got through all my questions. I had three pages of questions and I got through them all.

Kiri: uh-huh, busy night, huh?

Russ: oh maybe.

Kiri: now, I've got a question for you.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: we're coming up on an anniversary soon....

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: roundabout September time.

Russ: right.

Kiri: do you think we should celebrate it?

Russ: absolutely.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: party.

Kiri: no, it's their one year celebration.

Russ: ohhh, I definitely think we should have a party.

Kiri: yep. Or was it August? I can't member which. Was it August or September they got bonded?

Russ: should have been August I think.

Kiri: yeah, I think it was mid August. Okay....

Russ: I've got a joke for you.

Kiri: okay.

Russ: a horse walks into a bar........

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: the bartender says, "why the long face?"

Kiri: Omal thinks it's funny, I lose it in.........okay, a duck walks into the bar and orders a drink and the barman tells him it cost $1.25? And he says, put it on my bill.

(Russ laughs at that other old joke)

Kiri: it didn't work, did it?

Russ: no, that was a good one.

Kiri: Omal was telling me that one.

Russ: all right.

Kiri: hence the reason why it sounds as if I was reading from a script.

Russ: thank you Kiri, I appreciate all your help here.

Kiri: what do you call a nymphomaniac?

Russ: Kiri?

Kiri: uh-huh.

(Yet more laughter from Russ)

Kiri: I can't help it but for me it's practically acceptable.

 

THE TAPE ENDS


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