Atlantis, After the Fall- Channeled 08/26/97

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Archivist Notes: We get quite a treat right off the bat with a channeling from a student surfer from Sirius who is on the base to study the 3rd dimension by taking on some the elements he's studying. In this case it is the surfing culture of the west Coast he identifies with so he and I hit it off immediately as I feel right at home from my 15 years of surfing Southern California to help with his study. Another treat is that this is my first meeting with Treebeard before he had taken on that moniker and all we knew him at that time was The Man With the Can. This makes it an appropriate follow-up to last month's channeling session where it was Skip and Laura's first meeting with him. We see how Alzheimer's had began to take effect from his over 800 years of life on the sixth dimension and the change between sessions where it seemed to improve with time instead of get worse.

   Tia begins on a review of happenings in both Wall Street and the White House with a drop in one and a steady stream of bad news from the other. She quickly makes way for our first special guest from Sirius, Monk. As mentioned, he's a young student from the university on Sirius on a solo field trip to Hades Base to observe and study the 3rd dimension before heading back to complete his class work. It was nice learning of a surf culture on Sirius and of his revelations on the differences between the two dimensions as well as his interactions with the dolphins on Sirius to help with his wave hunting. My thanks to Tia for her help in arranging his time speaking through Mark. (Who wouldn't have any clue on how to speak like that.) Omal joins us before departing to a Council meeting but prior to leaving, delivers a short dissertation on the goal of Hades Base and Ashtar Command of raising the consciousness of the planet to the next level. He urges against making a deal out of specifying which dimension that is. We next meet Treebeard before he was Treebeard. I had come across him previously on an astral travel trip to the base so I finally made his acquaintance in the flesh so to speak. Karra takes up the rest of the side one talking about the family home on Sirius, an oncoming sister or brother and how life imitates history.

    A conversation with Kiri on geometry and astronomy leads to a larger discussion on the types of the population that left Atlantis at the exodus and where they settled afterwards. Immediate differences are seen between Britain and Egypt but signs both saw the influence of the miners and farmers of Atlantis. Stonehenge, megaliths and the Great Pyramid all point to evidence of an advanced form of mathematics and psychokinetic activity. Also brought up is something harder to spot but no less obvious, the established Ley line network kinking various sites of power. A possibility is put forth that perhaps the larger overview of the scattered survivors and possible examples of their architecture is a large scale version of the continent of Atlantis separated into many continents though in essentially the same places they had before geographically. Bunny follows Kiri fresh off a special performance at the corner bar on the base. It was a big hit even though I faded out during the show when I could no longer maintain my astral form. She had planned to go over an experiment in probing she had planned but got distracted when Katrina, one of the pilots on the base who had been injured in a recent engagement, showed up and she let her sister take over to sooth Katrina's injuries. Leah then proceeded to help me with explaining the differences between the 3rd and 6th dimensions while expanding on that with that on what it's like to live sixth dimensionally. She warps up the session with a fascinating story of how her, her sister and brother were raised in a family where their father is a member of Sirian Council and their mother his assistant.

TIA Ring Mistress MARK (Channel)
THE MONK RUSS (Archivist)


3.)(10:23)- Omal leaves for the night to a Council meeting but not before reminding me of the goal of Hades Base and Ashtar Command.

4.)(16:46)- We meet Treebeard for the first time when he was only known as the Man With A Can. A tendency to drift off apparent here seems to lesson greatly in later sessions.

5.)(28:58)- It's a free night so Karra dwells on home with me as we talk about the Tanaka family home on Sirius and the similarities between now and the Sirian Chronicles.


2.)(25:29)- Bunny is back on the base and had just wrapped up a special performance as a dancer at the corner bar. Never a dull moment when Bunny is around.

3.)(31:15)- Leah gives me a great description of what it is like to be raised the daughter of a Sirian Council member and growing up on Sirius.

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(Tia begins her duties as Ring Mistress)

Tia: okay hello, how’s it going Russ?

Russ: good darling, good.

Tia: that’s good. Okay, as we have a…..

Russ: large crowd.

Tia: yes, a large crowd gathering….

Russ: what is this, some kind of like rock concert or something?

Tia: ominously looming around the outskirts of the pyramid that I’m sitting in all on my lonesome.

Russ: not for long.

Tia: uh-huh. Okay, let’s get down to business. First of all, stock market. In the past two weeks it's dropped approximately 400 points, that’s one and a half percent. Nobody’s screaming and yelling blue murder at this point however there are rumors wafting around of it developing into a bear market instead of a bear slash bull market where it fluctuates and oscillates. We’ll see what happens before we start issuing general alerts.

Russ: best not to put any money in there right now I take it?

Tia: actually you could get some real good deals.

Russ: yeah, that’s probably true.

Tia: uh-huh, it’s a matter of sitting and waiting. When you play the stock market, it’s not get in quick and get out quick, it’s get in and wait and watch and pick the right ones. Wouldn't you agree?

Russ: I would definitely agree yes.

Tia: okay now, let’s look at the not so White House, the tarnished house. You’re going to love this one, you been following the news reports?

Russ: uh-huh.

Tia: of the Teamsters?

Russ: not quite.

Tia: and links from the Teamsters to the DNC, money flowing from the DNC to the Teamsters.

Russ: really?

Tia: uh-huh, highly illegal. It invalidates the election of the Teamsters president whose opposition narrowly got beat. You know who his opposition was?

Russ: yeah of course.

Tia: uh-huh, the son of a former……

Russ: Hoffa.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: yeah.

Tia: mob related individual who is now giving his support to the…..I think it’s Giant’s Stadium?

Russ: uh-huh, yeah I remember that joke.

Tia: uh-huh. As was said at the time, they were glad that they could count on his support. Okay now, a confession of sorts by I think it was John Huang on a television interview with Tom Brokaw I believe where he admitted that he paid $25,000 to see a cabinet official, to be met by the cabinet official who said quote, “he can see me as long as he contributes to my favorite charity”, which he did. It is again illegal for an individual in office to solicit money.

Russ: true.

Tia: okay, next little incident and confession in the same, said interview, I’m not quite sure if it was Tom Brokaw. He wanted to meet with Hillary Clinton and she said something very similar and it would cost him $50,000. Okay next tarnished incident. A group of gem dealers in Florida have themselves pictured in person with Bill Clinton. They used the pictures in a fraud scheme that basically said that the president endorsed their product. Again it is illegal for the White House to endorse any product so they committed fraud. Now why are all these people suddenly getting caught? Well it’s because the press is finally starting to turn on the president. But the odd thing that I have is we've had drug dealers, arms dealers, shady characters in the White House. This has never happened in such vast numbers and normally the FBI does not know. The FBI in every incident has advised that these people not be allowed into the White House because of what’s happening now, it’s coming out of the woodwork. So what’s going wrong here? Is the president really that careless of his safety and the safety of his country? I can’t say, that is pure conjecture. Any questions?

Russ: no, you handled that pretty well.

Tia: okay, now let me put on the guest speaker…..

Russ: okay.

Tia: first guest speaker. I’ll be back shortly.

Russ: all right.

(A unique guest takes his place in the pyramid)

Monk: yo, forgive me man, it’s the first time I’ve channeled dude.

Russ: no worries mate.

Monk: pleasure to meet you man.

Russ: a pleasure indeed.

Monk: only been on the base close to two months man, it’s real cool to be home almost. Going back to Sirius soon.

Russ: ahh, now who am I talking to?

Monk: they called me around campus Monk.

Russ: okay. Well good to meet you Monk.

Monk: yes, we got things in common to talk about dude.

Russ: all right, besides a certain language similarity.

Monk: yeah man, it’s cool. You ride the nose man or sit on the tail?

Russ: on the tail.

Monk: tail yeah, pretty cool.

Russ: short boards.

Russ: I can’t talk them into putting any surf up there on the base.

Monk: I’ll see what I can do, I’ve only got a few weeks left man.

Russ: no worries.

Monk: so in all seriousness dude, you got any questions?

Russ: yeah I do as a matter of fact.

Monk: okay cool, let’s hear them.

Russ: okay, since we both have a knowledge of third dimension and the different things about it, alright question I got for you is basically, describe for me the difference between third dimension and sixth dimension.

Monk: it’s a mindset man, it’s a mindset.

Russ: right.

Monk: yeah it’s not so much laid-back and kickback, I sound as you call it real rad and cool…..

Russ: right.

Monk: but still very sixth dimensional. The way I see it is like knowing who you are, what you have, where you came from as opposed to not knowing, not caring and having no desire.

Russ: right and for example sixth dimension, you got all access to all your past lives……

Monk: uh-huh.

Russ: you've also got telepathic skills.

Monk: oh it’s very useful.

Russ: so you can check out what they’re thinking in the…...

Monk: you’re not allowed to, that’s a no-no.

Russ: oh you’re not? Oh….

Monk: to probe anybody’s mind is a no-no man without their consent.

Russ: oh I figured they’d just be leaking all over the place and you couldn’t almost help but to pick it all up.

Monk: oh that’s easy, that’s not probing, that’s just telepathic.

Russ: that’s what I’m talking about it.

Monk: ohhhh.

Russ: you see?

Monk: dude.

Russ: it’s not probing, but picking up all the stuff that’s coming off anybody anyway.

Monk: speak the jive….

(Russ laughs)

Monk: it makes it easier to understand.

Russ: well there’s no word for it, I mean how do you say it?

Monk: leaking like a sieve dude.

Russ: I call that telepathic conversation.

Monk: oh, that’s eavesdropping.

Russ: eavesdropping.

Monk: uh-huh.

Russ: okay gotcha.

Monk: you guys should really take more care of the pipelines there.

Russ: oh I know, I know. Hey, I used to surf down in the south Bay, down by L.A.?

Monk: dude, that’s bad, that’s the pits.

Russ: we’d had garbage spills close the whole beach for days because of hepatitis scares.

Monk: dude, that’s the pits.

Russ: we couldn't even surf down in Palos Verdes because it was so bad. I’ve been out in the water with sharks before, it’s fun. Nothing big, just everybody else got chased out of the water and we sat out there and caught all the waves, we never saw a shark once.

Monk: it’s the ones that you don’t see that get you though dude.

Russ: yeah, it’s probably a dolphin, kind of cool to surf with.

Monk: oh yeah, it’s easy to talk to them too dude. Lying out there on a board, on a short board, you get one up next to you and you just link minds, it’s cool, real bad. Tell you good spots to surf too man.

Russ: where?

Monk: ahh…..they tell ya.

Russ: oh, the dolphins will tell you?

Monk: oh yeah man, talk to those mothers and they’ll tell you. Yeah you get on their frequency, they’ll talk all day long, they’ll tell you stories that you haven’t heard in eons. Told me of one great place, real bad place, dude I had such a blast.

Russ: really?

Monk: oh man, it was a ripper.

Russ: oh, that would be an advantage.

Monk: oh dude, get the spots from the mouth. I’m being pointed by the chick with the legs, she’s pointing me out.

Russ: oh bummer man.

Monk: the little chick’s smiling and laughing and nodding.

Russ: no doubt. Well Monk, it’s been a pleasure, I hope I’ll catch you up there when I stop on up.

Monk: let’s see if I can do this right dude.

(flashes the Hawaiian sign for good waves)

Russ: shakam bra.

Monk: dude.

Russ: you got it.

Monk: see you bro.

Russ: see you bra.

Monk: see if I get back some time, if not, send you a disk.

Russ: all right, it’s a deal bud.

Monk: okay dude, out of here bud.

Russ: later mate.

Monk: bro.

(Omal can stay only for the short time needed)

Omal: greetings Russ.

Russ: greetings Omal.

Omal: I thought you might enjoy that tremendously.

Russ: that was one of the more enjoyable things I’ve done in a long time in channeling sessions.

Omal: sad to say, I did not understand much of the conversation.

Russ: oh I have to say….

Omal: all these bras and bros and chicks and hits and....very confusing.

Russ: yeah, it’s almost like Sirian only in English.

Omal: yes, Sirian I understand, that I did not. What would you call it?

Russ: hip talk, I don’t know….

Omal: I'll have to look into this.

Russ: jive.

Omal: this jive talk.

Russ: yeah.

Omal: okay let us first of all cover Tia’s brief dissertation……

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: she’s always on the money.

Russ: always.

Omal: it’s all clean.

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: it can all be used.

Russ: okay.

Omal: okay now let us look at Monk’s.......I think only as he is saying, surfer dudes would understand?

Russ: right, good job though…..

Omal: okay……

Russ: thank you, I appreciate the treat.

Omal: glad that I can assist. As I have a Council meeting that I need to attend, I will be brief, concise and to the point and I will leave it up to the wiser individual that will be sitting in on my place.

Russ: oh excellent.

Omal: okay, let us give the brief dissertation and then I must be away.

Russ: fair enough.

Omal: okay, let us address following on a topic of discussion last night, the myths of the fifth dimension. As Kiri pointed out, there is too many myths to really cover. This is because as Kiri seems to have a hard time to understand, I will explain it in a little better detail. The terms that are used by host bodies and by the spirits and entities and beings that are channeled use terms and references that are accepted in your terminology to make things easier to understand. It does not matter if someone is talking about the fourth or fifth dimension as the next logical step, as was pointed out, it is just words, it is the concept. After all, in another language, the words mean something different. The fact that in common understanding, the fourth and the fifth dimension in the physics world are two distinct and totally different non-compatible to life form dimensions is a moot point. If a physicist was present, the physicist would understand exactly what Kiri was talking about but people in everyday general existence would not so therefore the terminology that is used is but words as was stated by both Kiri and some of the people present. These channelings have been a success apart from a little bit of loose mouth which did not really give anything away but, back to the topic at hand of fifth dimensionalism. The goal that is being projected is to the higher consciousness to the point where it is easy to grasp the next logical step. It does not matter if it is the fourth, fifth or sixth dimension, they’re words. And by heading to these goals and trying to structure yourself in a lifestyle that will lead to understanding of this objective is what we on the base and throughout Ashtar Command try to do. Questions, be quick.

Russ: no, no questions.

Omal: okay, thank you.

Russ: my pleasure.

Omal: and I believe live long, prosper and surf's up dude. Still do not understand that.

(Russ laughs)

(Tia's back but not for long)

(Tia says hello in Durondedunn)

Russ: hi Tia.

Tia: yo, very brief, very quick and very out of here. Okay……

Russ: I didn’t want to hang him up at all.

Tia: no, that was very kind and considerate of you. Okay, any questions for me?

Russ: no, I will need to get some news from you in a while but not just yet.

Tia: okay, yeah. It was good to be able to pull that trick for you.

Russ: thank you…..

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: that was wonderful.

Tia: yeah lined it up myself, got it okayed by Omal. First time I’ve ever been called the little chick. Not quite sure how to take that.

Russ: well that’s not bad, it’s good.

Tia: oh it is?

Russ: yeah.

Tia: and the tall chick is Kiri, she was going……pointing him out. Hair's all frizzy and he looks like probably in his early 30’s at most.

Russ: hmmm.

Tia: well tanned, very well tanned.

Russ: well…..

Tia: he just said that he has a tan from tip to toe, no lines.

Russ: yeah I can imagine. That’s one of those tans I want to get, hang out at the beach all day.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: I miss that life. Hey, you can’t help but enjoy it.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: the ocean is just an awesome place to dwell in.

Tia: oh, I suppose so.

Russ: hmm.

Tia: got any questions for me?

Russ: nope.

Tia: okay let’s briefly…..oh we’ll save that for later on. Okay let me put on the next person.

Russ: okay.

Tia: okay? Well whilst we wait for the next person to make himself comfortable……slow-moving you see, special one.

(Treebeard makes his first appearance as a guest)

Treebeard: greetings.

Russ: greetings.

Treebeard: hello.

Russ: hello, are you the gardener of the base I take it?

Treebeard: as Tia and Mark call me……

Russ: the Man With the Can.

Treebeard: yes. This reminds me of a time…..oh, I was young.

Russ: hmmm.

Treebeard: long before my first rejuve. Do you know that you are over 80% water?

Russ: uh-huh.

Treebeard: like the cactus, water is hidden in many different places and forms.

Russ: hmmm, you and I met once.

Treebeard: yes.

Russ: well about almost 5 years ago.

Treebeard: that long ago?

Russ: uh-huh.

Treebeard: seems like yesterday.

Russ: it does seem like yesterday but yes, I came down and was checking out the plants.

Treebeard: yes, you were very impressed with hydroponics.

Russ: uh-huh, I was very impressed with the work you’ve done. Is this where the water and plants and human bodies come from, the correlation between the three?

Treebeard: I would think so. It reminds me…..oh long ago when I was young before my first rejuve, I was......yes hmmm, long ago. Do you know that plants can grow under rock?

Russ: like moss you mean?

Treebeard: algae.

Russ: algae oh yes.

Treebeard: I think you would call it 2 mm……

Russ: uh-huh.

Treebeard: your measurement? Plant life can exist and under ice. I remember back home, a spring long ago.

Russ: hmm, a question for you.

Treebeard: yes.

Russ: why is it that you cannot grow the flowers in a controlled environment?

Treebeard: all flowers grow.

Russ: I mean the flowers that you eat.

Treebeard: oh, those.

Russ: those yes.

Treebeard: there are too many different factors.

Russ: oh really?

Treebeard: many different factors.

Russ: and you cannot copy those same factors that they grow in....

Treebeard: no it is…...

Russ: in an artificial environment.

Treebeard: it is too controlled.

Russ: oh really?

Treebeard: if we tried here, you need the certain thin atmosphere with the right amount of radiated heat. Also, you need the right amount of snow depth. This year was like a year…..oh I remember.

Russ: so you’d have to have actually it’s own little greenhouse almost with snowfall and everything to make that happen, it would be a dedicated project.

Treebeard: yes, long ago I remember it well. It was as good as…..sorry, what was I talking about?

Russ: oh the flowers?

Treebeard: flowers yes.

Russ: edible flowers.

Treebeard: yes, I remember the flowers. This year’s harvest was as good as the harvest I remember the spring of my first rejuve.

Russ: ahh, that would be the pink flowers I take it?

Treebeard: yes, that would be my 9th daughter came from that.

Russ: umm, which reminds me, happy birthday.

Treebeard: when?

Russ: oh a little while ago. I think it was….

Treebeard: oh yes, yes.

Russ: yes, I wrote it down in our chronicles that we have here on our planet.

Treebeard: hmm, you are a chroniclist?

Russ: uh-huh, yes and we chronicled your birthday.

Treebeard: yes.

Russ: and celebrated it down here you might say.

Treebeard: do you know the human body is 80% water?

Russ: I’ve heard that yes.

Treebeard: hmm.

Russ: I try to drink much as I can too.

Treebeard: yes, yes, water.

Russ: hmmm.

Treebeard: plants are interesting things.

Russ: have you had a chance to talk with plants?

Treebeard: I talk to the plants all the time. Some talk back, others, no word.

Russ: hmm, what’s the difference in why they do that?

Treebeard: feelings.

Russ: really? More plants have more feelings you might say than others?

Treebeard: some, some.

Russ: for example, a plant that talks and the planet that doesn’t talk.

Treebeard: plants that talk are not plants. Feelings of comfort are what plants talk.

Russ: ahh, I see. So when you water them, a big emotional kind of thanks?

Treebeard: in the way yes. Hmmm, yes flowers, the flowers no, it is too many different factors that go into the……..yes that was a nice year. Ahhh, I shall never see the likes again. She does well you know, my daughter.

Russ: does she now?

Treebeard: yes.

Russ: do you talk to her at all?

Treebeard: yes.

Russ: hmm, has she visited the base?

Treebeard: yes.

Russ: and how did she like it?

Treebeard: didn’t.

Russ: why not?

Treebeard: too confined for her.

Russ: ohhh, it’s a beautiful base.

Treebeard: she is a botanist.

Russ: oh really?

Treebeard: likes big, wide open spaces. Suffers a little of claustrophobia.....

Russ: oh yes.

Treebeard: not good on here.

Russ: but your garden must have been rather enlightening for her?

Treebeard: yes, yes.

Russ: it almost gives a freedom of space.

Treebeard: yes, my little home.

Russ: indeed, I’m glad you’re able to come and chat with me this evening.

Treebeard: yes, I must attend to my bladder.

Russ: ahh, well thank you for helping me out with my answers....or questions.

Treebeard: hmm flowers yes………80% water.

Russ: uh-huh.

Treebeard: hmm.

Russ: hmm.

(Tia catches us up real quick)

Russ: hey Tia.

(Tia says hello in Durondedunn)

Russ: how’s it going love?

Tia: it’s going fine.

Russ: excellent. Nice old man, I like him.

Tia: yes. Difficult conversation wasn’t it?

Russ: not at all actually, it was not as bad as Mark has led on to be anyway.

Tia: he was actually very focused tonight.

Russ: he seemed very lucid to me, a couple points where he’d drift off a little bit but nothing like…..

Tia: oh memories.

Russ: I was led to….

Tia: you might want to remove the bar......

Russ: oh yes.

Tia: unless you have great strength.

Russ: come on you guys, come on.

Tia: oh, got a whole load of holo disks.

Russ: oh, tell me about it.

Tia: oh, from Lyka?

Russ: yeah.

Tia: uh-huh, she’s doing fine but she’s also looking forward to coming home.

Russ: well I can imagine.

Tia: uh-huh, only two months to go on her tour.

Russ: well good.

Tia: uh-huh, sent her a holo myself telling her and Mark told her as well that to be extra careful towards the end.

Russ: good. Hey so question for you darling.

Tia: uh-huh?

Russ: so who can I work with on history…...Earth history tonight, anybody?

Tia: no, you might try Kiri or Karra.

Russ: I’ll work on it.

Tia: uh-huh. But yeah that was a very interesting discussion with the Man With the Can. Very roundabout.

Russ: that was quite good actually, I liked that part about the plants.

Tia: yes, he kept on going back to 80% water.

Russ: well it was probably on his mind.

Tia: yes, it’s funny.

Russ: well his bladder problem or bladder need was probably on his mind a bit there.

Tia: yes probably.

Russ: 80% water, I’d like to lose about 2% of that right now.

Tia: yeah his mind was wandering all over the place, mainly plants though.

Russ: yeah.

Tia: he always starts his conversations with cactus'.

Russ: does he?

Tia: uh-huh, he’s fascinated by cactus'.

Russ: they're fascinating little creatures.

Tia: I didn’t know they lived?

Russ: uh-huh, absolutely.

Tia: uh-huh. I think somebody ought to go and help him, I can hear him thrashing around in the bamboo out there. I can see him from time to time, I think he’s lost in the bamboo.

Russ: easy to do, he's probably studying it.

Tia: probably.

Russ: nice strand of bamboo and you’ve got there.

Tia: yeah probably, probably standing there and Kiri says that I shouldn’t say anything because he’s very receptive.

Russ: almost as good as you huh?

Tia: uh-huh, almost as good as I. But getting back to Monk…..

Russ: uh-huh.

Tia: I told him to speak in plain English. If that was plain English…..

Russ: that was plain English.

Tia: I didn’t understand it.

Russ: I understood every word. You had to be there.

Tia: yes, I guess one had to be there.

Russ: it’s like the '60’s all over again.

Tia: chick I know what it means, dude we know, bra, I wear one.

Russ: well yeah but I am one.

Tia: don’t look like one to me.

Russ: brother.....

Tia: oh.

Russ: brother in a Hawaiian sense.

Tia: bro.

Russ: but they instead of brother, they say bra or bro.

Tia: ahh. Bro is brother.

Russ: bro is brother so is bra.

Tia: ahh.

Russ: bra is bro, only slanged out in Hawaiian and used by certain surfer individuals and others.

Tia: and what was this hand thing?

Russ: shakam bra, another Hawaiian symbol.

Tia: oh

Russ: it means go get the waves man.

Tia: oh.

Russ: caught the wave.

Tia: and what else did he mention? I’m fascinated by the lingo. I’ve never heard it. Yes I’ve heard somebody talk like that.

Russ: sure.

Tia: the blonde haired guy, used to sit in that chair very quietly when…..

Russ: you mean John?

Tia: no, young blonde…..

Russ: Ryan.

Tia: yeah.

Russ: you mean Ryan.

Tia: yeah, uh-huh.

Russ: he didn’t talk like that as much.

Tia: a little.

Russ: a little.

Tia: actually it looks a little like him apart from Ryan could do with an extra I should say probably 3 inches, little longer hair, more frizzy. Same sort of red tan to him. I better go, I’m going to give him a hand.

Russ: all right, bye love.

Tia: bye.

(Karra ends the side)

Karra: hello.

Russ: hi love, how’s it going?

Karra: it is going well.

Russ: well good. It was an enjoyable conversation from our friend there tonight.

Karra: yes, yes very lucid, very deep and thoughtful.

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: I think he lets people think that he’s worse than he is.

Russ: well it’s probably just, he’s probably right actually.

Karra: he’s a lot more lucid than people think he is. He’s more interested in his plants and ants than anything else. Tia was trying to get him to talk and explain the can…..

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: and wouldn't have anything to do with it. Probably knows exactly how it works.

Russ: oh I’m sure he does.

Karra: uh-huh. But he seems easier to distract then he used to when I first gave him his first physical.

Russ: hmm.

Karra: so, we had fun didn’t we Wednesday night?

Russ: indeed.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: Wednesday was fun.

Karra: oh yes.

Russ: and I’ve been working on a few different things for questions this evening. Is Bunny coming in do you think?

Karra: yes she’ll be in in a few.

Russ: I’m going to save this one for her then.

Karra: okay.

Russ: because I want her to work with me on this one.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: get some serious stuff out of her for a change.

Karra: okay. As it’s a free night I haven’t prepared any notes as you well know.

Russ: as I well know.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: yes so it was fun, it was fun watching her dance up on stage.

Karra: oh yeah.

Russ: she’s a terror.

Karra: she’s a real tease too.

Russ: sorry I couldn't stick around for the whole thing though.

Karra: oh that’s all right, she made up for your departure.

Russ: Sunday was good…..

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: glad I stopped off to see the kids and everything, I loved that. Now what about that painting that Miranda drew or painted?

Karra: she has seen pictures of home.

Russ: oh she has?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: I thought it might be just memories.

Karra: oh, it could be some memories but…...

Russ: but she’s seen pictures and just knew that that was the family home?

Karra: yeah. Well you remember the conversation that I was eavesdropping on that you and Mark were having about how spiritually meaningful home was?

Russ: oh yes right, how spiritual it is to anybody whose a part of the family.

Karra: uh-huh yes it’s…..

Russ: it’s a spiritual kind of….

Karra: it’s more than that.

Russ: sacred place almost.

Karra: yes, it is a sacred place for us.

Russ: and it’s probably a sacred place for a lot of people on the planet.

Karra: no, only for our family as far as I know.

Russ: well isn’t that where the rock that was described in the story from Kiri?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: is that?

Karra: yeah, the house is built on it.

Russ: right.

Karra: but that’s just the line, our line, our link to Sarra.

(from the Sirian Chronicles)

Russ: right.

Karra: uh-huh. A lot of it is legend that can’t be proven or substantiated and a lot of it is true. There is......the next time you go home, I’ll take you down into the cellars.

Russ: okay, I’d like that, I don’t think I’ve seen the cellars yet.

Karra: yeah and you can see.....well you know where the cellars are?

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: that wall that is all rock and rock stone that’s built up?

Russ: I haven’t been down there though.

Karra: oh pity, pity.

Russ: your dad’s only taken me up in the study and stuff mostly.

Karra: he hasn’t shown you our wine cellars?

Russ: he hasn’t shown me the wine cellars.

Karra: his pride and joy?

Russ: no, you have to remember, I was only there as almost like……I wasn’t there as a tourist, I was there to have a chat, drinking tea…..

Karra: yes, he took you to his office didn’t he?

Russ: yeah.

Karra: that’s almost directly above it actually.

Russ: really?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: we had a really nice glass of wine though that one time.......nice claret.

Karra: yeah well the wall that is the…..sorry?

Russ: nice claret.

Karra: of course. The wall that is the entrance way into the cellars is the back wall from the original cabin.

Russ: oh.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: excellent.

Karra: and the house was built up around that. Everybody’s added their own little part to it, every head of the family.

Russ: what’s your dad done?

Karra: his office.

Russ: oh that’s his?

Karra: uh-huh, he remodeled it. He didn't add a new a new room, he just remodeled the room and made it basically a new room. He is talking about putting a play room on for his newest child. You know she’s pregnant again?

Russ: is she?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: Gonzo’s pregnant, neat.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: well good for her.

Karra: she still has a hard time though.

Russ: why is that?

Karra: well with the servants but they’ve accepted her now.

Russ: well she’s almost like that original…

Karra: yes she is a little bit.

Russ: one who the story's built up around.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: in fact, he’s a lot like the guy in that story.

Karra: yes he is. I always….

Russ: what a coincidence.

Karra: I always thought that it was my mother that was the original but maybe it’s an attraction of the two types of people.

Russ: I would say so.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: your dad probably doesn't really like the more affluent members of the society probably......

Karra: no, I don’t think he does.

Russ: female wise.

Karra: he’s more attracted to simple but intelligent.

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: yeah more into simple ways of living. Out of the whole entire house, this is funny, they could live and move around as free as they want and she sticks basically to their little apartment and will go out the back door. It’s funny, mother was much the same. They lived when mother was alive as mother, they lived at the other end of the house. You know that wing that’s close to the servants quarters?

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: that’s what they lived.

Russ: really?

Karra: that’s where I grew up. I had full run of the house. She didn’t mind going into the library or the studies or down to the cellars or anything, she didn’t mind that at all. Gonzo from what I’ve heard is very much......




(Karra now takes on the job of two people)

Karra: quite a crowd here tonight. We’ve had two guest speakers already.

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: we have two pseudo-guests to go and I’m now filling in as Tia’s not back yet.

Russ: oh no problem.

Karra: no, no problem and I am doing the Omal routine. Should I give an explanation and look along his conversation with you?

Russ: sure.

Karra: Omal, how can I do it like Omal?

Russ: what can I use on the webpage?

Karra: you can use pretty much of it, it would be hard to follow I think.

Russ: I’ll have to edit it heavily.

Karra: uh-huh and put it in chronological order as it did loop quite frequently.

Russ: no problem.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: I’ll just take it and just work it out.

Karra: okay, she’s back.

Russ: okay.

Karra: okay catch you in a few hon.

Russ: bye sweetheart.

(Tia returns to make the next hand-over)

(Tia says high in Durondedunn)

Russ: hi Tia.

Tia: okay, who’s being loud?

Russ: loud? Oh the kittens, I got both of them in my lap.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: purring like harmony here.

Tia: yes harmony, harmony, harmony, harmony, harmony……!!!! Okay, I’ll put the next speaker on.

Russ: all righty.

Tia: and we'll have the two guests at the end.

Russ: okay.

(Kiri gives us a history lesson)

Kiri: dude.

Russ: Kiri.

Kiri: yo, he lost me you know when he was talking like that.

Russ: really?

Kiri: I thought I was the hip chick.

Russ: I thought you’d follow along totally with that.

Kiri: I thought I was the hip chick.

Russ: you’ve been supplanted.

Kiri: well only the once, he’s not got the hip movements I’ve got.

Russ: no, that’s true. So anyway, we are working on this evening…

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: Pythagoran geometry and astronomy.

Kiri: oh cool, cool dude.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: okay.

Russ: and in regards to the Stonehenge….

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and the various other megalithic sites throughout Europe.

Kiri: cool.

Russ: particularly Britain.

Kiri: cool.

Russ: okay, now according to what I’m reading here…..

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: the ancient builders of Stonehenge and these megaliths had an Einsteinian knowledge of Pythagoran geometry way before Pythagoras was even born.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and astronomy to such a degree that it would take almost telescopes and computers to figure out the exact alignments that they came up with.

Kiri: uh-huh, which are accurate.

Russ: which are very accurate. So that only leaves one suggestion about where the science came from.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: which would be Atlantis.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: now my theory on this is that the reason the knowledge came through so clearly is that it came from one particular race of beings who left Atlantis and settled in the northern part of England.

Kiri: I think we’ve covered that, I think we have dude.

Russ: well we have yeah but I mean we haven’t covered to this angle yet.

Kiri: okay, let me hear you out.

Russ: okay, now when we covered it last, we covered the fact that the group in question were the miners of Atlantis.

Kiri: some of them yes.

Russ: some of them who left and settled in parts of Scandinavia and parts of Britain.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: okay. Now at the time, all we discussed about them were the fact that they continued their mining's…..

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: and we still have relics of those basic archaeological digs…….

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: well for their part, mines today.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: now in this respect then we're seeing a whole other level of science added on to that…..

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: to where mining is not even involved which…...

Kiri: yes it is, yes it is.

Russ: in a certain way, but there’s something else besides this, this wasn’t strictly their work.

Kiri: no.

Russ: this was something that goes beyond that…..

Kiri: well…….

Russ: the fact that it seems like it’s more almost Sirian.

Kiri: well you've got to remember you’re dealing with a group of individuals that have to know mathematics and geometry.

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: why?

Russ: to work out the basic structures of the weak points, strong points of holes they're digging in the ground.

Kiri: and the shafts that their digging and how to shore up the shafts and so on.

Russ: right.

Kiri: so you’ve got to have a very sophisticated level of engineering….

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: and a very high understanding of mathematics.

Russ: yes.

Kiri: so that’s where the geometry comes in.

Russ: right.

Kiri: because certain shapes have certain strengths and certain strengths can be used for safety.

Russ: right.

Kiri: after all, you have to remember that if a group of miners get trapped underground, they’ve got to be able to go to a safe area where they can work out and a relief party can work in.

Russ: right.

Kiri: otherwise they end up dead very quickly.

Russ: right.

Kiri: and to minimize fall-ins and cave-ins and so on, you’ve got to know the certain structures to be able to create an area that there is less of a chance of a cave-in.

Russ: but now see this doesn’t include the astronomy part, that’s where the second group comes in.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and so…...

Kiri: from what I understand though, it wasn’t just the mining groups that ended up there.

Russ: right, it wouldn’t seem to be, it looks like they were still working with other members of the Atlantian community.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: but the one thing I don’t understand is, maybe I do, the astronomy part….

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: came in so that they can regulate the timing of solar eclipses, times of the seasons…….

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: for growth and basic parts of the year.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: which is where the astronomy part comes in.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: the building part obviously helps in the aid of that.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: but the one thing that comes into being here that I’m questioning is, movement of the stones.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: okay? What we’re seeing is the same kind of design we saw with the pyramid whereby they were using psychokinesis…..

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: to maneuver the stones into place, take them from rock quarries a 130 miles away and place them with the exactness that they did.

Kiri: well if you look at where the rocks supposedly came from right which is where?

Russ: a majority came hundred a 130 miles away, the blue granite.

Kiri: from?

Russ: give me a second I can tell you.

Kiri: we can go and ask Mark if you want, send somebody to ask Mark.

Russ: oh no, no, no, it’s right here. Yeah here it is.......well I thought it was. Give me a second.

Kiri: tick-tock, tick-tock. (hums the Jeopardy theme)

Russ: here we go......okay, "the blue stone’s" okay? "Came from a Welsh quarry…."

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: "which was a 130 miles northwest of Salisbury plain. The sarsen slabs were brought from the Marlboro Downs about 20 miles north of the site……"

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: "and since wheeled vehicles were unknown in Britain during the time of Stonehenge’s construction, the long-distance transportation involved with moving these massive rocks is the most astonishing feats……"

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: "that were accredited to the builders."

Kiri: uh-huh. Tia’s just arrived back and she goes, “Wales.”

Russ: yeah.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: Welsh quarry.

Kiri: yes now, what is Wales famous for?

Russ: Welshman?

Kiri: apart from Welshman.

Russ: oh, the Celts.

Kiri: no.

Russ: Wales, Wales, Wales, Wales. Why does that question sound so familiar, what is it famous for? I’d have to say it would probably be some famous archaeological site?

Kiri: no, go down to Virginia City and look around, what’s there?

Russ: what, mines?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: oh, coal or something?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: oh.

Kiri: yes.

Russ: what is that, Newcastle or something is in Wales?

Kiri: I don't know.

Russ: coals from Newcastle? Oh.

Kiri: I don’t know.

Russ: it’s not my country.

Kiri: it’s not my planet. Beat you…ah-ha. It’s not my dimension, top that one.

Russ: you got a point.

Kiri: uh-huh. But anyway….

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: mining, think about it dude. You’re cutting blocks right?

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: what group of individuals would be the ideal people to be stonemasons?

Russ: that would be the miners of course.

Kiri: of course dude. So, you’ve got a whole load of granite that needs cutting right? What do you do?

Russ: you cut it up and you transport it.

Kiri: you go to the locals who happen to be miners, “hey dudes, we got some rock here, could you cut it for us?”

Russ: no problem.

Kiri: no problem. So you have two groups of individuals communicating.

Russ: hmm, now check this picture out. This was found…..these were some stuff that was found at the site. It's attributed to the Mycenaean’s.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: which led them to believe that possibly the Greeks had built it.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: well we know that’s not true but we know where that came from actually.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: we know the origin of that. Yes, it is Grecian in style…..

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: or Mycenaean in style, but the Mycenaean’s had borrowed that from somewhere else anyway.

Kiri: and we know where dude.

Russ: and we know where.

Kiri: God, he’s got me talking like him.

(Russ laughs)

Russ: so we know that........okay after looking at this…..

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and looking at how the stones were moved….

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: .....who cut them, we kind of get a clearer picture of how they were built, why they were built…

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: but that leads us into the next problem is okay, where is the rest of it? Is that it? A few trinkets and Stonehenge and a bunch of megaliths, that’s it? No, we have mines......

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: okay?

Kiri: we have mines, we have power grids.

Russ: ley lines.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: right. We have mounds.

Kiri: uh-huh, which a majority of them are tombs.

Russ: right. We also have things like Salisbury Hill and Glastonbury Hill.

Kiri: Salisbury Hill?

Russ: it’s a famous mound, a lot of energy there.

Kiri: ahh.

Russ: Glastonbury Hill, a conjunction of Ley lines.

Kiri: Tor.

Russ: Tor, correct.

Kiri: Glastonbury Tor, it’s not a hill, it’s a Tor.

Russ: right.

Kiri: with a church on there.

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: and a very spiritual pathway.

Russ: correct, which I believe is linked with Stonehenge somehow or another.

Kiri: you’d have to ask somebody that knows something about it.

Russ: I haven’t even looked into that part yet.....

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: I can find out.

Kiri: ask a Celt.

Russ: I will ask him when he gets back. So….

Kiri: not a kilt, a Celt.

Russ: yes well we’re seeing now then that there is a pattern……

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and what we could say then is this is the founders of England.

Kiri: ohhhhh, that will upset him.

Russ: why?

Kiri: England is only a part of it, what does Mark say he is?

Russ: oh British…

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, Britain. But we’re seeing now……..okay, here’s another clue. Okay, where you look at, there’s some 50,000…..the most megalithic sites…

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: where all these things are? In England, there’s 50,000 in all. "The greatest concentration of megaliths are found in Western Europe, North Africa, primarily in Britain, Ireland, Spain, Portugal, France, Scandinavia and Algeria."

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: okay? But this doesn't mention the other end of that spectrum.

Kiri: uh-huh, which is?

Russ: which is Greece, Egypt......well North Africa I guess that could be Egypt because you've got the obelisks.

Kiri: yeah, totally different.

Russ: yeah.

Kiri: totally different group of individuals. Communication between them, certainly. All heading towards one goal which I haven't got the foggiest of what it would be a great disaster, probably survival and communication.

Russ: I’d say it'd be more……..well here’s the whole topper for all this.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: if you look around the world after the disaster of Atlantis….

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: you see sites set up all around the world that individually they're unique to that part of the world.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: but if you group them all together, what you’re seeing is Atlantis on a larger scale.

Kiri: uh-huh, yeah but so spread out through……it’s many Atlantis’.

Russ: right, you have to look at it and actually take the whole globe….

Kiri: and bring it together and you get……

Russ: at one small island.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: well one large continent.

Kiri: yeah, but it’s more than that, you’re getting parts of a city brought back together, a capital city brought back together. This is my opinion and my opinion only is that you’ve got the miners right? And the agriculturalists that end up scattered all over the place, the mass concentration is in Europe. You have a group of miners and agriculturalists that are together right?

Russ: right.

Kiri: they try to re-create their area.

Russ: right.

Kiri: because if you take mining right? It brings rock and sterile stuff out of the ground which can be put on the ground to be used as fertilizer and all sorts of interesting things. Lime for example and so on which is good for the ground so that the miners and the agriculturalists would tend to exist together.

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: so that you have these two groups working together on Atlantis, they escape and a large group of them that end up in Europe and scattered all over Europe are still grouped together because they're running for the boats as the island goes down and explodes and whatever so you're going to get a mixture of them together.

Russ: right, you also see some of those miners going off to Egypt too.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: I mean some of that work in Egypt was just beyond awesome.

Kiri: of course, of course but......

Russ: the Sphinx for example….

Kiri: yeah but you see what I’m saying?

Russ: but that’s a whole other style of mining.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: I mean the Sphinx is so different from Stonehenge as to be almost two complete cultures so therefore you’re seeing the miners with a different group…

Kiri: uh-huh, catering to the different group.

Russ: to a more I would almost call it a higher class.

Kiri: it's more along the lines……

Russ: it’s not agriculturalists.

Kiri: that’s right.

Russ: as it so much more aristocracy.

Kiri: you’re dealing with a group of individuals in Europe that are agriculturalists and miners….

Russ: right, who have to know the seasons….

Kiri: uh-huh, very important for them.

Russ: correct.

Kiri: you see one cannot exist without the other you see?.

Russ: right, so they trade-off the agricultural goods that they get for the mine work they get to help them learn to chart the seasons.

Kiri: correct. In Egypt, where it’s almost a year-round harvesting type thing...

Russ: right.

Kiri: and a different type of lifestyle, you don’t need to have such a high reliance on the seasons because there’s basically two seasons

Russ: right.

Kiri: drought and rain. But you have to have things to store the grain in and the food.

Russ: almost scientists.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: if you look at the pyramid and some of the other works among Egypt, you're seeing more of an alignment with Sirius….

Kiri: uh-huh and you’re seeing a lot of mathematical precision.

Russ: a lot of working with the sun.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: right, a lot of mathematical precision. A lot more so that you see it with Stonehenge….

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: but you see it in a greater quantity…..

Kiri: yeah but you see the mathematics would be the mining, the astronomy and the alignments would be more aristocratic and nobility. It might be better to say that there were two main groups that survived that ended up in Europe in the mining groups and the agricultural groups but there was also the affluent miners and the affluent farmers.

Russ: right, the aristocracy.

Kiri: uh-huh and more of them ended up in Egypt but some ended up there and the same with the farming, fewer of the farmers ended up in Egypt, More of the…

Russ: more of the scientist class…..

Kiri: that’s correct.

Russ: ended up….

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: in Egypt.

Kiri: yeah. Which tells you what about the island?

Russ: about England or Britain?

Kiri: no, about Atlantis.

Russ: oh Atlantis, oh.

Kiri: if you look at Atlantis, let’s say this is Atlantis….

Russ: well it's showing that everything is more grouped into sections.

Kiri: okay let’s say this is Atlantis right?

Russ: yeah.

Kiri: you’ve got northern Europe over here, you’ve got Africa here…..

Russ: right.

Kiri: you’ve got the America's here.

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: right? Now, where is your mass concentration of agriculturalists and miners?

Russ: it’s going to be on the northern side, on the northeastern side.

Kiri: of the island.

Russ: right because that’s where you’re going to get your…..

Kiri: mass concentration over here of survivors.

Russ: well your trade winds…..

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and everything are going to be coming that way.

Kiri: yes but what I’m saying is that the survivors, miners and farmers, the majority of them ended up over here.

Russ: right.

Kiri: whereas down here, we got a bunch of……

Russ: wait a minute, the capital city was down there in the southeast. What was it, was it called? Atlan or something like that?

Kiri: something like that. So you’ve got down here you’ve got more of the aristocracy and so on.

Russ: right.

Kiri: right? And a few miners. Now that tells you about Atlantis here right? What have you got?

Russ: well that would be…..okay we know the Mayans came from…..Mayans and Indian…..American Indians were in the Northwest.

Kiri: uh-huh, they were over here.

Russ: right.

Kiri: so you’ve got coming from the side of the island, surviving going this way….

Russ: which group of people? The red skinned group.

Kiri: that’s right.

Russ: but they're also down the Southwest of the island, North and Southwest. They're spread on that whole western side there.

Kiri: yes.

Russ: why?

Kiri: because it was more like home for them.

Russ: hmm what, more…..?

Kiri: more luscious, grasslands and forest lands.

Russ: oh really?

Kiri: uh-huh, whereas over here you have a more barren agricultural type area whereas here you have more of a warmer tropical area.

Russ: hmmm.

Kiri: so and here, you have the capital city and so on. So the survivors flee, you’re not getting any of the forest dwellers coming across to this side as the island goes up, they’re all going this way and this way and you have going this way the miners and the agriculturalists and a few of the aristocracy and then this way you have a lot of aristocracy, a few farmers and a few miners. Going this way you have a few miners right?

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: and a few aristocracy and a lot of….

Russ: it seems the miners were all over the island.

Kiri: uh-huh exactly.

Russ: because if you remember, if you look at South America….

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and Central America….

Kiri: there is mining.

Russ: there is mining on a great scale.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: giant constructions that are totally mysterious in Peru for example.

Kiri: uh-huh, yeah.   

Russ: the size of this house, blocks the size of this house make up a wall.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and that is very familiar to the Bimini Wall.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: in the southwestern side of the island near Florida.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: which we see the same size and sort of blocks there as we see in Peru.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: so we’re seeing that exodus there but then that also brings in the question of well there’s also Lemuria to be brought into this.

Kiri: yeah, exactly. So it’s not a complete equation, there is a lot…..

Russ: there’s a lot of missing parts.

Kiri: oh yeah.

Russ: but there’s a lot more cleared up.

Kiri: okay, more questions?

Russ: no..

Kiri: okay.

Russ: thank you dear.

Kiri: no worries dude. I’m going to go off and talk to Monk and then I’ll see about dealing with Mark.

Russ: later tall chick.

Kiri: yeah, tall chick. He called me the slick chick.

Russ: slick chick with a chain.

Kiri: yeah I was looking at him and going, “dude, come on man.” No I was going, “dude, come on, out of there dude.”

Russ: oh, that was you?

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: I mean that was how you were doing it?

Kiri: uh-huh, see you later dude.

Russ: bye darling.

(Tia's in and out quickly)

(Tia says hi in Durondedunn)

Russ: hi Tia.

Tia: okay.

Russ: all right.

(Karra as Omal as only Karra can)

Karra: well hello again.

Russ: hi sweetheart.

Karra: hey, doing the Omal routine.

Russ: so what do you think, we can put a little map or something on the page?

Karra: we can try.

Russ: maybe just pick a little graphic and make this group here, this group here, miners all around kind of thing and kind of just put it…...

Karra: yeah, take pictures of your planet as it is.

Russ: you mean scan it maybe?

Karra: no, you should be able to load something off the Internet.

Russ: hey you know you’re right, I probably could.

Karra: uh-huh. Get a graphic computer to do it, give him something to do.

Russ: yeah, get something like.......yeah that’s a good idea.

Karra: uh-huh and I believe he has some drawing capabilities. Anyway….

Russ: okay.

Karra: okay, I think pretty much all of that can go, we'll have to wait until we get the okay from Omal because there are some things there that I'm a little….

Russ: questionable.

Karra: yes, very questionable.

Russ: well not very questionable.

Karra: well you know Kiri.

Russ: yeah.

Karra: she likes to walk on the edge and word things in such a way that's later that you see them.

Russ: all right, we’ll just feed it to me later.

Karra: okay.

(Tia makes way for Bunny)

Tia: okay, I'll put on the next guest speaker, well semi-guest speaker.

Russ: okay.

(Bunny brings her usual fun with her to the channeling)

Russ: hello?

Bunny: yo hello.

Russ: is this Bunny?

Bunny: of course.

Russ: hi Bunny.

Bunny: uh-huh.

Russ: how you doing darling?

Bunny: much, much better.

Russ: oh well that’s good.

Bunny: uh-huh.

Russ: why, what did you do?

Bunny: I’m over my period.

Russ: oh that’s right.

Bunny: I’m not leaking and bleeding all over the place.

Russ: the red tide left.

Bunny: the red tide dyed is gone. I'm…..

Russ: back in fashion.

Bunny: uh-huh.

Russ: good deal.

Bunny: yeah, starting to kick back in as well.

Russ: well you had a wonderful show anyway.

Bunny: glad you liked it.

Russ: oh I did but as I warned you, my ability to hang around for a long time….

Bunny: uh-huh.

Russ: is not quite what it should be.

Bunny: well I threw my panties at where you were sitting, that’s the first time I noticed that you were gone.

Russ: oh when I suddenly disappeared, they landed where nothing else was left.

Bunny: uh-huh.

Russ: yes……

Bunny: I wanted to come over and I couldn’t get down through the crowd. I wanted to come over and get you to suck my fingers.

Russ: ohh.

Bunny: uh-huh, when I dance, I pick out people to do things for me.

Bunny: oh.

Russ: so anyway, the question I have for you this evening sweetheart.

Bunny: uh-huh.

Russ: which is strictly yours to answer.

Bunny: does it involve sex?

Russ: nope.

Bunny: does it involve lovemaking?

Russ: nope. Actually it does sort of involve lovemaking in a sort of way.

Bunny: oh I’m an expert.

Russ: okay, well you're also an expert in this.

Bunny: uh-huh.

 Russ: and this is concerning telepathy.

Bunny: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, and what I’m looking at here is the ability to have telepathy on a better scale….

Bunny: uh-huh.

Russ: a better ability and what I’m thinking is is your empathic channels….

Bunny: uh-huh.

Russ: are more awakened when you’re working on probing or telepathic communication and you can raise your vibrations up to a higher frequency.

Bunny: uh-huh. Actually you hit upon an interesting point earlier on when you’re talking to the strange one over there. No, he’s gone.

Russ: Monk.

Bunny: yes.

Russ: yes.

Bunny: uh-huh, I was listening.

Russ: uh-huh.

Bunny: uh-huh, but there is a very interesting point and that is when somebody is in a state of anxiety or sexual arousal, it is easier to probe them.

Russ: hmmm.

Bunny: do I have your permission?

Russ: of course.

Bunny: okay good, good, good. You know what I’m asking?

Russ: uh-huh.

Bunny: okay, now it can be used the other way as well. When you are in a state of sexual arousal, you can use that energy to be able to sooth because a sexual state could be very soothing, not only for yourself but for somebody else. So you can sooth them and be able to probe. Now I’d like to try a little experiment towards the end of the session so what I will do is when I finish my piece now...

Russ: uh-huh.

Bunny: I’ll get warmed up and then we’ll come back and I will see if I can get it to congeal so that we can try.

Russ: okay.

Bunny: and it will get me also into the state where I am very able to be receptive and to probe in a very sensual, pleasurable way that will be able to make you more open.

Russ: okay.

Bunny: uh-huh.

Russ: agreed.

Bunny: good, good, good, good, good, I can wrap her around my little finger if I wanted. Hello, who is that that’s just walked in, she is a…..

Russ: I don’t know.

Bunny: she’s tall, slightly palish blue skin.

Russ: oh, Katrina’s shown up.

Bunny: oh poor girl.

Russ: Katrina? No, nothing poor about her. Oh, you mean the latest.......her injuries.

Bunny: yes.

Russ: oh yes.

Bunny: she’s got a mask or half a mask on.

Russ: yeah, it’s when she got banged up pretty badly in her craft.

Bunny: uh-huh. I can help soothe her.

Russ: good.

Bunny: uh-huh.

Russ: alrighty, sounds like a good plan my dear.

Bunny: hmm, she says to say hello to you.

Russ: oh, tell her dos vedanya for me.

Bunny: what?

Russ: dos vedanya.

Bunny: she says dos vedanya and something that I can’t even get my mouth around.

(Russ laughs)

Bunny: sounds like dos vedanya, nyet…, not going to be able attempt it.

Russ: no problem love.

Bunny: what is she talking?

Russ: Russian.

Bunny: what’s that?

Russ: it’s one of our cultural languages down here, the eastern part of Europe.

Bunny: I’ll have to look on a place book.

Russ: uh-huh.

Bunny: okay, I’ll be back.

Russ: all right love.

(Tia makes the last transition of the night)

(Tia says hi in Durondedunn)

Tia: I’ll put on the next person.

Russ: all right dear.

Tia: those two are getting acquainted.

(Leah completes the night for us)

Leah: hello.

Russ: hello.

Leah: how’s it going?

Russ: good darling.

Leah: uh-huh.

Russ: who is this, Alana?

Leah: do I sound like Alana?

Russ: no.

Leah: I met her the other day, she’s with child.

Russ: uh-huh, yes.

Leah: she’s your bondmate but it’s not yours is it?

Russ: right, it’s Mark’s.

Leah: ohhhh.

Russ: it backfired.

Leah: getting pregnant is getting backfired? What does backfired mean?

Russ: ask Karra about that one.

Leah: well Karra’s talking with Huna and the one that speaks funny.

Russ: ahh Katrina.

Leah: uh-huh.

Russ: yes.

Leah: so how you doing?

Russ: I’m doing good dear, is this Leah?

Leah: of course.

Russ: of course, silly me, I should’ve recognized you.

Leah: Tia says to say MCP.

Russ: oh okay.

Leah: I don’t know what that means.

Russ: male chauvinist pig.

Leah: what does that mean?

Russ: it means generally men in particular on a third dimensional level who are more selfish and self-conscious then……

Leah: but you’re not.

Russ: I know.

Leah: then why would she say that?

Russ: it’s a tease, she likes to tease.

Leah: oh.

Russ: we go back and forth like this all the time.

Leah: like Huna likes to tease?

Russ: sort of, not quite in a sexual way.

Leah: oh, she’s blushing.

Russ: more like brother, sister kind of way.

Leah: oh yes, like me and my brother does.

Russ: that’s right yes, just like that.

Leah: uh-huh.

Russ: we tease each other.

Leah: oh okay, I know what you mean.

Russ: how you doing Leah?

Leah: I’m doing fine.

Russ: good, glad to have your sister there?

Leah: uh-huh.

Russ: all right, you guys are getting acquainted I hear?

Leah: yes.

Russ: now you’re blushing.

Leah: yes.

Russ: well good to hear, good to hear.

Leah: uh-huh.

Russ: it’s nice to see you guys getting to know each other again.

Leah: uh-huh.

Russ: how long has it been since you guys seen each other, couldn’t have been that long?

Leah: about six months to a year.

Russ: yeah, wasn't that long then.

Leah: hello, we’ve got a little visitor just come into the garden.

Russ: oh, that would be probably Miranda?

Leah: no.

Russ: oh I mean one of the Cubs?

Leah: no.

Russ: oh no?

Leah: somebody that makes me feel warm and special.

Russ: oh, Leonedies showed up.

Leah: uh-huh.

Russ: oh good.

Leah: I think he’s meant to be getting ready for bed actually.

Russ: yeah he's got a little bit...oh he's yeah, up a little bit late, about 15 minutes so it's not that bad.

Leah: oh, well is wearing his jammies.

Russ: sounds reasonable. Your sister and I are going to try an experiment here.

Leah: yes, so I hear.

Russ: this should be interesting.

Leah: yeah I think it might….ow.

Russ: what?

Leah: I just had my sister sit on my foot accidentally.

Russ: oh.
Leah: oh well he’s gone.

Russ: oh Leonedies is gone?

Leah: uh-huh, he was scooped up and taken away.

Russ: I’m sure he was.

Leah: uh-huh.

Russ: very quickly too.

Leah: okay, let’s be serious for a while.

Russ: all right dear.

Leah: got any questions for me?

Russ: for the most part, not really. We’ve been working a lot lately on differences between third dimension and sixth dimension.

Leah: uh-huh.

Russ: so I’m not sure how much you can contribute to it but maybe you can, maybe you can’t.

Leah: okay.

Russ: .....your observations.

Leah: well I’ve only had a limited experience. Speaking on a scientific level, from what I’ve experienced, it’s like looking at a brick and not seeing a house.

Russ: back on third dimension?

Leah: no, overall.

Russ: oh okay.

Leah: I cannot compare because I’ve experienced only you and stud muffin (Mark).

Russ: and you're….

Leah: that’s what Kiri calls him.

Russ: oh does she?

Leah: uh-huh.

Russ: and you haven’t had your memories get to you yet so….

Leah: no.

Russ: you can't really discern between your third dimensional lives and your sixth dimensional lives.

Leah: no.

Russ: understandable but now you can give me some hints on living in the sixth dimension.

Leah: yeah.

Russ: so that’s good, that’s helpful.

Leah: well it comes naturally.

Russ: well I’m sure it does.

Leah: I don’t have to think what’s right or wrong.

Russ: okay let’s start with this then.

Leah: Tia’s coaching me by the way.

Russ: okay, let’s start with this. Last night I was working with Karra and she couldn’t really answer it as well as I think you could......

Leah: uh-huh.

Russ: because you’re closer to the source but growing up in sixth dimension, in other words as a child…..

Leah: yeah.

Russ: okay in crèches and stuff.

Leah: uh-huh.

Russ: all right, what things are you taught empathically to be aware of?

Leah: feelings, emotions.

Russ: now everyone is, right?

Leah: yeah.

Russ: from the very get-go?

Leah: uh-huh.

Russ: feelings and emotions towards others or yourself?

Leah: both.

Russ: both.

Leah: uh-huh. Feelings of when somebody is in a depressed state of consciousness….

Russ: uh-huh.

Leah: not in dormancy.

Russ: uh-huh.

Leah: but in a, “I want to be alone, leave me alone.” You know what kind of mood that is where as if it is somebody that wants to be generally alone to think or somebody that is.......I think you would say squashed, de-squashed.

Russ: depressed?

Leah: yes I think.

Russ: yeah, depressed.

Leah: yeah. I know when somebody is in that depressed state of consciousness as opposed to, "I want to be left alone to think". And I know that it would be better for that person to be brought out of that state whereas somebody that wants to be alone to do studying or whatever or just wants to be alone, then I know that they just want to be alone and I’m respectful of that.

Russ: right, now how do you learn something like that? Do they give you somebody who is in that mood or they get themselves in that mood and you have to read it?

Leah: no, no, it’s just interaction. It’s something that my sister never had.

Russ: oh really?

Leah: yeah, pure interaction.

Russ: hmm.

Leah: you see when I was at the age of learning…

Russ: uh-huh.

Leah: we were a lot of the time in Council or my father was in Council.....

Russ: uh-huh.

Leah: so that I would be in town a lot of the time so I could go to the classes whereas when my mother became pregnant with Huna…

Russ: uh-huh.

Leah: she went back home to have her.

Russ: oh.

Leah: she wanted her youngest daughter, my younger sister to be at home.

Russ: okay.

Leah: and my youngest brother kept her at home when she was pregnant with him.

Russ: okay.

Leah: it was a little complicated for her, the pregnancy was.

Russ: hmm.

Leah: so she stayed at home. Now they’ve come back…..mother's come back to the city to rejoin our father….

Russ: uh-huh.

Leah: so therefore they are now getting the interaction that they missed by being up on the coast way up in the secluded areas where our home is.

Russ: oh, I see.

Leah: uh-huh.

Russ: okay so that affects your training.

Leah: yeah, it’s interaction. Being put in a crèche because mother being my father's assistant........

Russ: uh-huh.

Leah: I had to be put into a crèche.

Russ: okay. So you learned more about how to respond to people’s feelings but then you see Huna…

Leah: uh-huh.

Russ: and you realize she’s picked that up almost naturally.

Leah: no, no, she can read people’s sexual states.

Russ: right.

Leah: and she’s learned how to probe….

Russ: oh I see, so that’s why she probed me….

Leah: because she wanted to see your state.

Russ: right, without actually knowing whether or not I wanted to be probed.

Leah: uh-huh.

Russ: because she hadn’t had that interaction. I see, yeah that clears it up in a big way.

Leah: uh-huh, and by probing, she can tell somebody’s emotional status and so therefore she sees that it’s a status…..she can’t read the vibes given off very well.

Russ: in other words, she can get the leaking like Monk was describing.

Leah: uh-huh.

Russ: and he’s not probing because he knows that’s not right.

Leah: uh-huh.

Russ: and he’s obeying those statutes but, he’s picking up on all this extra leaking so in other words, you’d pick up on leaking instead of probing.

Leah: that’s correct.

Russ: I see.

Leah: whereas Huna picks up on the probing.

Russ: just by probing right. Oh, makes a difference.

Leah: yeah, you see she didn’t have that interaction. That’s why I think and feel that she looks for the sexual joining and pleasure to be able to get that.

Russ: uh-huh. Well that’s one way to learn it.

Leah: oh yeah, a very good way I mean until I started......until I started experimenting with lovemaking, it was something I didn’t miss but it heightened the experiences.

Russ: right.

Leah: the joining. When I’m made love with Tia for the first time, it was something that was…’ve never had fireworks have you?

Russ: oh yeah.

Leah: hmm, I thought men didn’t get fireworks?

Russ: when I was married, when I first met my first wife.

Leah: oh yes.

Russ: those were fireworks.

Leah: yes.

Russ: actually my first sexual experience was mass fireworks.

Leah: but I’d never experience that…..

Russ: right.

Leah: until Tia and myself made love for the first time....

Russ: uh-huh.

Leah: and I lost my virginity…


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