Poetry Reading and an Astral Travel Primer-

Channeled (02/14 & 17/1993)

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Archivist Notes: As they say in Game of Thrones, winter is coming. It's nice then to be working on a pair of sessions from February 1993 when winter will be nearly done here in Lake Tahoe. We say a pair of lessons because this one podcast is a combination of two sessions over two nights three days apart. The first is from Valentine's Day of that year and features the four main speakers who are at pretty much every channeling session. The first of those is our resident ring mistress Tia who gets each of the two nights off to a start. For a little background, Bethany had not been showing up to channeling sessions but had attended a recent poetry reading Mark and I had taken part. We began with analyzing the negative feedback loop I had been using and working on ways to achieve a power boost when using it. As Mark was channeling Tia from within a pyramid, she suggested using outside power sources for the energy needed for the boost such as the pyramid itself or electrical appliances. She uses the analogy of a river gaining strength before it discharges into the ocean. What I would be doing is discharging the energy into my third eye. From there a giggling Kiri takes over to help me focus my questions. What immediately comes up was a recent trip to the dentist where Kiri had played some role in the procedure I can't remember at this time. From the gist of the conversation it sounds like it was quite the prank. We jump next to the poetry reading mentioned and even give an example of one that sounds like something written by Bethany which we then try to determine its meaning. She next gives me the assignment of listening to Mark after his astral travel trips to places here on the earth to do surveillance work for the Command. I was then have to give the reports to Korton afterwards to free up Mark from that same responsibility. She ends her time speaking by apologizing for being a grouch recently though her pregnancy gives her the right. Omal uses to the end of the first night with a demonstration of coercion with me saying the lines he normally would. Mark and I next get instructions from him to call Bethany which we confirm we did on side two. We also get their plan to start moving Mark's body while he channels instead of just using the vocal cords. Kiri would later become the expert at this. I give him a plan on a surveillance project for a college in Scotland and he provides the necessary navigation waypoints I should be looking for when I get near it in my astral body. It's quiz time after that where I have to remember what he taught me about finding Betelgeuse. We end with another astral travel project I had assigned myself to research pubs in London for a friend that he could then verify the information afterwards. From there the session ends we move on three nights later where Tia starts the follow-up session.

Side two starts much as side one did with Tia and I discussing a recent training trip we had taken together and a total body separation of mine that happened earlier that day. The energy I was bleeding during the training gave her the opportunity to go over the basics of farsighting once more. We were using a system of switches to turn off the energy in parts of the body and then taking ten deep breaths followed by ten quick breaths. That would be repeated as the body felt lighter and lighter. She next goes over the tips for interplanetary travel such as the training we did where we used the gravity well of the planet Sirius to slow ourselves down. She advises maintaining a tighter focus and even possibly holding a crystal in front of me to achieve that focus. She also advises experimenting with different techniques from various belief systems. During a short interlude where I was otherwise engaged, she breaks out some jokes she had thought up. The birthday party comes up as plans are made for her attendance before she backtracks to answer my question on why Ashtar doesn't go solid down here. She ends her time speaking with a moment of levity where we take a quick trip to France with a nursery rhyme and phrase exchange. She now makes way for Karra who gives her take on astral travel trip I had taken to see her on the base earlier as well as offering some advice that's very insightful. She then accidentally trigger something that moves Mark's leg which takes her by surprise. We get into a conversation about her daughter Klarra which is the subject she is with as there's a diaper that needs changing. It's then time for her very pregnant sister to come on and let's me know of a snowball fight the girls are headed to start. The subject of her pregnancy brings up her intuition that Tia is looking to get pregnant as well. What we find out is that Kornas has denied Tia that for now due to her youth though we know she would have triplet daughters with Mark in the future. We next discussed her plans for attending the party and learn shall be for the most part on the sidelines watching the kids. She just found out the sex of her child with Mark and we know his name would be Alex. She does reveal that normally she would be able to make sure the sex but in this case she had no choice. It's that choice that we end the session with and what a session it was. Another excellent entry into the archives of the Hades Base News.
In love, light, and wisdom as one,
Russ and Karra

TIA- Ring Mistress


1.)(0:00)- Tia and I ponder the absence of Bethany recently and go over the process of gathering up energy while doing a negative feedback loop. It is a loop of energy from the root to crown chakra, out and back in again.
2.)(22:30)- Kiri and I discuss Bethany's last visit which included a poetry reading. We even get one of the examples from that night. Finally, I get assigned to report the farsighting trips of Mark's directly to Korton.
3.)(43:31)- Omal begins with a quick coercion demonstration before putting a plan in place for them getting Mark's body to move around while channeling. We also discuss a surveillance assignment for me.


1.)(0:00)- Tia and I debrief an out of body experience of mine earlier in the day and as a result she goes over the basics of astral travel. She manages to get some singing in as well as an exchange in French.
2.)(23:37)- Karra works with me on my recent farsighting practice and about her daughter Klarra who apparently made an astral travel trip down here to where I was at the time. She then has to change her.
3.)(32:45)- A pregnant Kiri has to be careful of what she does while Tia can't wait to get in the same way. She promises to come to a birthday party for Mark and myself and watch over the kids attending.

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(Tia gets the first of two sessions underway)

Tia: hi. Farsighting, section four, February the 14th, Valentine's Day!!!!

Russ: happy Valentine's Day.

Tia: yes, and wasn't that a little surprise?

Russ: I don't know if little could quite fit in with the term there.

Tia: uh-huh. I'm surprised for you guys and us.

Russ: major surprise.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: quite pleasant actually.

Tia: pity she couldn't stay for the channeling.

Russ: she's not ready for that yet.

Tia: no.

Russ: she's got a little ways to go still, she's on a break.

Tia: uh-huh. And what did we say all those months ago?

Russ: you would work on it.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: good work.

Tia: thank you. Actually, because it's so late, we're not going to do a farsighting session.

Russ: okay.

Tia: because the plan was for you to come up here. But, because it's late and we understand that certain individuals have changed their work routine, we won't be able to do that. So tonight is a free night.

Russ: good.

Tia: so is that all right?

Russ: that's perfectly fine.

Tia: okay.

Russ: since I'm a little confused now anyway, I don't even know where to start.

Tia: well, we're having a free one. We're having a conversation with Omal as well so you'll have to excuse my little bit of distractedness as he is prodding and poking me. I need to get down to business and okay, do you have any questions for me?

Russ: yeah, as a matter of fact.

Tia: hmmm?

Russ: I'd like to know more about the power boost.

Tia: the power boost?

Russ: uh-huh.

Tia: of the negative feedback loop?

Russ: uh-huh.

Tia: what do you wish to know?

Russ: what is it, how do I get it?

Tia: you ride the beam. You suck in energy instead of just doing a negative feedback using your own energy, you collect energy as well.

Russ: where does the energy come from?

Tia: all around you. If you were to do it in here it would come from the pyramid. If you were to do it in a crowded room it would come from the other people or from the electrical appliances.

Russ: how would I visualize the gathering?

Tia: you feel it. You feel all the energy surrounding you all the time, correct?

Russ: uh-huh.

Tia: so you just collect that and add it to the negative feedback loop.

Russ: where do I funnel that into to feed into it?

Tia: well, as it comes out of you, instead of keeping it on a tight beam, you let it get fat and then as it starts to get near to the top of your head you condense it again. So it comes out narrow, it starts to get wide by picking up the energy around you and then you condense it down before......

Russ: before it comes back into my body?

Tia: correct and you get your energy boost.

Russ: okay. Now then, in doing the negative feedback loop.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: I noticed the key was to keep getting it faster and faster until the body automatically sends it into the brain.

Tia: uh-huh. It's not actually the body, it is that it is establishing a pattern that keeps reaching a point that doesn't need any more controlling.

Russ: so instead of getting out of control it goes into my body.......

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: or my mind?

Tia: yeah. Because it's at that point that it would go out of control but because you're funneling it in, it retains its control.

Russ: so there's no more need for conscious control of it when I'm consciously sending it into my own body.

Tia: well there is a little bit of control needed to keep it going.

Russ: right but that's the only control.

Tia: yeah, that's it. You're getting there.

Russ: and pushing it faster and faster while I continue to increase speed.......

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: for each automatic jump?

Tia: yeah.

Russ: so each time it goes in it will be a little bit faster than the time before.

Tia: uh-huh, yep. But once you get up near to the speed where it is nearly maximum, it can't pick up anymore speed at that point but it can carry on picking up energy.

Russ: so in other words, it's still the same speed but more energy.

Tia: yeah, more energy, more energy, more energy.

Russ: and what is this doing right now could be described to my farsighting capabilities as far as you can describe them? A way of putting it into words I could understand.

Tia: that would be a difficult one. Basically, it's like a river. A river starts off in a small, single trickle, correct?

Russ: okay.

Tia: and then it goes along and it gets wider and wider and wider. Is that a good enough analogy?

Russ: it's a perfect analogy.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: where does the river go from me though? I mean does it stay only in my brain or does it spread?

Tia: again that's a hard one for me to answer. I've never had to explain in any great detail my farsighting so I do have difficulty explaining it.

Russ: well it's only curiosity.

Tia: uh-huh. We'll let you work that one out........

Russ: okay.

Tia: and we will think on it ourselves.

Russ: all right.

Tia: okay.

Russ: see, I'm a little confused here. I'm having trouble keeping my questions in mind.

Tia: well let them come as they may.

Russ: that's the problem, I've got so many that they're jumbling around in my head and won't all get focused in on to come out. It's a free night, right?

Tia: yeah, hold on a second. We're going to put somebody in that will be able to help you.

Russ: okay.

(Kiri is in a lighthearted mood for this channeling)

(Kiri giggles)

Russ: oh great, this is supposed to help?

Kiri: demonstration time.

Russ: oh God.

Kiri: okay.

Russ: you're in for a spanking young lady.

Kiri: oooooohhhhhh. When you go solid.

Russ: oh yes, if it's anything for inspiration, that will do it.

Kiri: uh-huh. But you've got to remember, I do have a serious.......serious disadvantage at the moment.

Russ: I'll have to wait, I understand that, that's fine.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: I'm perfectly willing to wait. That was very funny at the dentist office, thank you very much.

Kiri: "the doctor is in".

Russ: that was horribly amused. God, you're terrible. How you doing Kiri?

Kiri: three guesses.

Russ: that good, huh?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: oh good. Okay, what do you know about telepathy?

Kiri: what do you want to know? Yes she was.

Russ: yes? Then why?

Kiri: then why?

Russ: why?

Kiri: you can answer that one.

Russ: no I can't answer that one. I come up with answers that seem pretty weird all of a sudden.

Kiri: okay, go ahead, let's hear them.

(Kiri starts to giggle)

Russ: well the first one would be the reasons for coming in the first place.

Kiri: which was?

Russ: telepathy.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and for poetry.

Kiri: uh-huh. Okay, poetry reading time.

Russ: okay, poetry reading time.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: good, we'll take the short one first.

Kiri: okey-dokey.

Russ: all right, it's called, Passionate Need.

"Alone in darkness, screams all I hear. My only wish is for you to be near.
The wish my heart holds I never let go. Hope for your touch my cries of woe.
A passionate dream keeps me awake, I am what you want, yours to make.
Touch me, mold me, I beg you please, but away you fly like a Summer's breeze.
Come back to me my love, it's you that I miss. Memories sweet only bring me bliss.
Where have you gone, I cry to above, will you ever see I need your love."

Russ: okay?

Kiri: hmm. Did you kiss her good night?

Russ: no, I did not kiss her good night.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: I'm a little confused at this present time.

Kiri: hmm.

Russ: understandably so.

Kiri: well we could sit here all night and analyze just for one, we'll save the other one for a later time.

Russ: oh yeah, most definitely.

Kiri: she's looking for companionship again. She's missing the link, the bond. The bond with you, the bond with us.

Russ: yeah?

Kiri: she's still a little bit scared.

Russ: scared of what? I'm not quite sure.

Kiri: scared of herself.

Russ: what she could become or what she is?

Kiri: uh-huh, both. She cannot figure out what she is and she cannot figure out where she wants to go.

Russ: she knows she can't do it alone.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: okay. Connections time.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: where are the connections?

Kiri: the connections?

Russ: where do they lead? Connections to souls.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: past lives.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: present lives.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and future lives.

Kiri: ahhhh, the future hasn't happened yet.

Russ: do we know that?

Kiri: the future can only happen in a limited sense as been written. Anything further is hearsay.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: you heard them say it, huh?

Russ: yeah.

Kiri: see, listening to the poems, what we found were bits of.......hold on a second whilst I wiggle myself up, pull myself up by my bootstraps.

(Kiri blows a raspberry)

Russ: thank you.

Kiri: that's better. Okay.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: now then, what we could say is that Bethany feels lonely, she's looking for companionship again.

Russ: so where do we take it from here? Leave the next step up to her I assume?

Kiri: no. I'm going to make a suggestion which I don't often make.

Russ: no you don't.

Kiri: call her tomorrow.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: uh-huh. You still have her phone number?

Russ: oh yeah.

Kiri: okay. Give her a call tomorrow, don't make any promises or say anything, just say that you enjoyed her company and appreciated the visit and leave it at that. That's if you get her answering machine.

Russ: right.

Kiri: and if you get her, say nice things and say basically what I just told you to say. That you enjoyed her company even though it was only a brief stay or how well she was looking, and so on.

Russ: that's on the verbal mode, how about on the mental?

Kiri: generate friendship, love, understanding, welcome, all good positive things. May even give you a chance to practice your coercion.

Russ: yeah. How about on the farsight mode?

Kiri: hail her on the farsight mode, call her.

Russ: okay, but don't go farsighting there?

Kiri: no, that's a taboo.

Russ: really?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: why?

Kiri: farsighting into somebody's private space? It's all right when she's at school or work but into her own bedroom? Uh-uh. Naughty naughty.

Russ: okay, good, I didn't know that.

Kiri: it was mentioned, it was mentioned.

Russ: I'm sure it was and I'm sure I forgot it. Well, glad of the reminder, thank you.

Kiri: oh, you're welcome. Yes, full of life. Bouncy, bouncy, bouncy.

Russ: okay thank you Kiri for your......

here he: trying to get rid of me, huh?

Russ: no, I'm just thanking you for your advice.

Kiri: oh, okay.

Russ: benefits of wideband coercion.

Kiri: uh-huh? As you were attempting this evening?

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: a big waste of energy on one person.

Kiri: uh-uh.

Russ: it's not?

Kiri: no.

Russ: why?

Kiri: because it is opened up, even though you work hard and achieved so, so little, it has laid the groundwork. Well, we have time to kill, Tia and myself and Omal because two individuals have gone off and are being very boring.

Russ: oh yeah, they have to do that.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: hold on a second, I'm going to stick my fingers in Tia's ears. Omal's going to do it, she's being sent outside.

Russ: okay?

Kiri: uh-huh, it's concerning his workload.

Russ: oh.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and?

Kiri: you're going to start helping him.

Russ: oh God.

Kiri: no, no, no, no, no, no. What we want him to do......

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: is to tell you verbally what he sees when he goes farsighting.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: okay? Now when you come up here......

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: you're going to make some of the reports.

Russ: oh.

Kiri: so that Korton doesn't have to spend so long with Mr. Reconnaissance, Mr. Observer.

Russ: so he can spend more time with you and Tia.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: ahh, I see your subtle ways.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: very subtle.

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: like a hurricane.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, works for me, good practice and all.

Kiri: uh-huh, it will teach you how to analyze information.

Russ: analyze information?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: you mean put my skew on it?

Kiri: not necessarily put your point of view on it but being able to relay information better using what's up in your cranium as a memory.

Russ: ahh.

Kiri: enlarging your memory capacity. But when you are ready to do your own line of farsighting.....

Russ: okay.

Kiri: then you will be able to have full knowledge on how to process the information and to deliver the information.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: good. When do we start?

Kiri: when you wish.

Russ: after Mark's next trip.

Kiri: uh-huh. Which will be whenever he does the next. Ask him.

Russ: okay. I assume he's being filled in on this information at the same time I am?

Kiri: I don't know.

Russ: ahh. Well I'll fill him in otherwise.

Kiri: well, you know what the boss is like.

Russ: right.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: all right, works for me.

Kiri: so how was the charming, delightful, lunch girl?

Russ: sending some heavy vibes.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: heavy mental messages. Heavy throwing on my shields in the best possible way.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, well I think we're on the brink here.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: we're about to take a very major step in our back to projects again.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: which means we have a meta-concert back online.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: uh-huh?

Kiri: yes?

Russ: okay, so in other words, farsighting has become more important than ever now.

Kiri: yes. Funny how things like that work out, don't they?

Russ: just amazing.

Kiri: uh-huh. We kept our part of the deal.

Russ: yes you did and I'll keep mine.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: yeah, she did mention that quite a bit has gone on with her since her last time she's seen us. I imagine a lot of it had to do with you guys.

Kiri: uh-huh. We can neither....

(Russ and Kiri together)

Russ and Kiri: confirm or deny.

Kiri: Tia's back.

Russ: oh goody.

Kiri: okay, she's pouting.

Russ: of course she is.

Kiri: uh-huh. Well, I'm going to hand over to Omal.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: uh-huh. And then Tia will probably come back.

Russ: are you off or are you going to hang around for little while?

Kiri: I'm going to hang around.

Russ: great.

Kiri: so I'm in a fun mood.

Russ: we'll this is a change of pace, I'm happy to see it.

Kiri: uh-huh. I feel a lot better. I apologize for the last channeling session where I was a real grouch then.

Russ: I like the time at the pool when you were just keep off, keep out, keep away.

Kiri: oh, give me a break, I can't be like that all the time. I mean, if you were in my situation........

Russ: and I hope to never be.

Kiri: uh-huh. You'd be a grouch now but mind you, you males, you grouch at the slightest thing.

(Russ burst out laughing)

Russ: well I'm so happy to hear you happy again.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: it's a joy. Thank you Kiri.

Kiri: later dude.

Russ: later dudette.

(Omal gets us to the end of night since the session was over two nights) 

Russ: operating within normal parameters.

Omal: good.

Russ: specified.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: how are you doing Omal? I know, I just said it.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: message is clear.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: things are moving fast.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, what's the news?

Omal: ahhh.

Russ: ahhh.

Omal: okay, demonstration over.

(Russ really laughs now)

Russ: yes?

Omal: okay, as was stated by Tia, the plans for this evening were changed.

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: partly because of the lateness of the hour, partly because of the events that were planned. Don't we get a thanks for that from you?

Russ: yes you do, thank you very much.

Omal: uh-huh. Unfortunately, certain individuals were not willing to cooperate at the appropriate time. But still, it proves that not everybody is coerceable all the time.

Russ: true. So what's the next step?

Omal: the next step, patience.

Russ: okay.

Omal: Kiri was quite correct in what she said.

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: that is a good plan to follow........

Russ: that is a good plan.

Omal: for both of you.

Russ: okay.

Omal: both of you being the channeler as well.

Russ: right.

Omal: don't say the same things as it sounds too prearranged.

Russ: right.

Omal: independent operations at this time are the necessary forms of communication.

Russ: okay.

Omal: we will continue our work although a little less heavy-handed and more subtle.

Russ: I got it.

Omal: yes and we're also being distracted as well.

Russ: I can only imagine.

Omal: yes. We're not going to describe the scene as it's......

Russ: I can understand.

Omal: uh-huh. But somebody's in for an interesting evening.

Russ: poor guy.

Omal: poor, he loves it.

Russ: sex drive like a Ferrari.

Omal: sorry?

Russ: Kiri.

Omal: oh yes, but I do not follow this analogy, Ferrari?

Russ: Ferrari, it's an automobile designed to travel at speeds in excess of what's normal.

Omal: ahhh, yes. But she will have to find that she will have to slow down as well. She has an extra passenger.

Russ: backseat driver?

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: okay. Okay, let's see.

Omal: and somebody in the last session has a big mouth.

Russ: do they?

Omal: yes. That is why she isn't channeling this evening. She is being reprimanded for having a big mouth.

Russ: hmmm.

Omal: because she made hints. Now then.......

Russ: okay.

Omal: changing the subject slightly.....

Russ: right.

Omal: we are going to to start working out on propulsion.....

Russ: hmmm.

Omal: for when the weather becomes more clement.

Russ: okay.

Omal: as the weather has been a little bit cold, if we were to get mobile at this junction, the channeler wouldn't feel anything however, because of the systems and everything, they would be affected by A, the motion and B, the decrease in temperature which could be harmful.

Russ: hmmm.

Omal: so we will wait patiently and practice coordination.

Russ: oh, what was the plan?

Omal: the plan is that whilst we talk we're going to show off.

Russ: ohh.

Omal: uh-huh. And we have done this in the past and we are now going to continue our propulsion practices, or not as the case may be.

Russ: propulsion, what do you mean......?

Omal: in the channeler.

Russ: oh, moving his body around?

Omal: uh-huh. We're going to work up to it though nice and gently.

Russ: good.

Omal: now do you have questions for me?

Russ: oh yeah.

Omal: okay.

Russ: okay, negative feedback loop that I did.

Omal: uh-huh, which one?

Russ: timeframe of a day. Today's timeframe, correct. Negative feedback loop. Made progress? Any hint or any advice?

Omal: just continue as perplanned.

Russ: okay.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: good.

Omal: continue at your own necessary speed.

Russ: okay. Now, my trip to London the other day.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: I'm going to try to continue that out and make it up to Edinburgh.

Omal: okay.

Russ: I got an atlas and know now where
Edinburgh is and find the college.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: find out what's going on.....

Omal: yes.

Russ: and observe......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: local stuff.

Omal: okay, where you want to look, to give you a little bit of help for the college at Edinburgh.....

Russ: okay.

Omal: is you look for I presume they call it a mountain although it isn't particularly high and it has a rocky outcrop on it and it is called Arthur's seat.

Russ: hmmm.

Omal: and then you proceed down from there and there is a large park and the University is just off from that park.

Russ: it should be easy to find.

Omal: uh-huh. It is almost on the other side from the castle, Edinburgh Castle.

Russ: okay, good. I've got a star chart so I'm learning my constellations.

Omal: okay. Right, question time.

Russ: right.

Omal: where is Betelgeuse?

Russ: ahh, Betelgeuse is next to Orion.

Omal: hmm?

Russ: if you find the three stars in Orion's belt.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: it would be to the left of it.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: about one degree more or less......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and it's the bright star.

Omal: what color?

Russ: red.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and it's the one, the whole shape forms a kind of rectangular coffin-like box around three stars.......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: it would be the one on the left of that coffin.

Omal: the shoulder.

Russ: correct.

Omal: okay, now a statement, effect. The other evening you were involved in some interactive entertainment and you gave the correct answer, correct?

Russ: ahh yes, yes, that's right.

Omal: uh-huh. Now, both of you were correct.

Russ: we were both correct?

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: so it was not only a black hole but it was a supernova.

Omal: the question was worded badly.

Russ: ahhh.

Omal: it should have been, "what is the final stage a star achieves when it collapses upon itself instead of what is the last stage of a collapsing star. The last stage of the collapsing star is a supernova. But, the stage after the supernova when all the fuel has been burnt up.....

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: the final stage is a......

Russ: black hole.

Omal: correct.

Russ: good.

Omal: so both of you were correct because of the wording of the question.

Russ: ahhh.

Omal: so neither of you are wrong....

Russ: okay.

Omal: the question just was worded poorly.

Russ: okay.

Omal: being very diplomatic, aren't we?

Russ: you're very diplomatic. But since we got it right.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: it doesn't matter now anyway. But, yeah, that was quite interesting. We had a lot of fun with that.

Omal: uh-huh. Okay, next question.

Russ: okay, for you or me?

Omal: for you.

Russ: ahh. Now then, with these reports that I'm going to be doing for Mark to Korton......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: I assume will be questions asked of me about being more detailed about reports.

Omal: yes.

Russ: okay. And this will be Korton that will be doing the questioning?

Omal: uh-huh. So best behavior, no Mr. Smarty-Pants.

Russ: that's what I thought.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: say if it was you, well, no problem.

Omal: well I'm not very good on deep analytic work and when I say deep, I mean DEEP and that's as deep as I can go.

Russ: right. Being as I haven't been really deeply questioned by Korton yet.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: what can I expect?

Omal: the best way to describe it, looking for analogy, would be sticking your head in a vice and tightening it up.

Russ: oh good, so it's pleasant.

Omal: why do you think the channeler enjoys it so much?

(Russ laughs)

Russ: okay, that's good practice for me.

Omal: uh-huh, yes. It will be good practice for your understanding and enlightenment.

Russ: okay. Now one problem I have is......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: I don't have Mark's......

Omal: military background.

Russ: no, stamina.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: my time spent up there.......

Omal: that is why we're saying that it will be deep. It will also be fast.

Russ: ahh, good.

Omal: and it doesn't matter if you deliver the information in bits and pieces as long as the information is delivered.

Russ: okay good. Because I know he can spent a couple hours up there and then time translate back.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: whereas me, I'm doing real time 20, 30 minute jumps.....

Omal: yeah.

Russ: max......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and I don't know how much information I can impart in that time period.

Omal: you will be surprised at how much will be drawn out of you.

Russ: okay.

Omal: some of it will be read, some of it will be verbally.

Russ: good. Now then, we were discussing last time a possible power surge.......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: needed to increase my stamina. This would be the power negative feedback loop power burst that Tia and I were discussing.

Omal: yes.

Russ: okay. So, when do I do that? When I'm down here preparing to go up or once I get up there?

Omal: yes, yes.

Russ: down here.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: okay. Because I notice when we do our negative loops up there......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: they have more energy.

Omal: yes, we might start off with, to give you coaching, do them up here.....

Russ: okay.

Omal: and down there.

Russ: I was going to suggest possibly starting up there.......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: so I can have better practice for working down here.

Omal: we will do them in both locations.

Russ: good, that works out perfectly. Okay, question about the recent dental experience.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: what the hell happened?

Omal: yes,uh-huh. Pregnant women get carried away occasionally.

Russ: is that what that was?

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: somebody let her in or she just kind of walked in herself I take it?

Omal: what do you think?

Russ: she forced her way in.

Omal: yes, would we let somebody that lively.....

Russ: God.

Omal: and that mischievous and all the other things that she was at the time.

Russ: at the time.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: God.

Omal: ahh, question.

Russ: yes.

Omal: she has been referred to as yo-yo knickers.....

Russ: yeah.

Omal: what is that?

Russ: I would assume being able to drop her pants at the drop of a hat.

Omal: ahh, yes, up and down.

Russ: right.

Omal: hmmm, okay.

Russ: yes, it's analogy time.

Omal: uh-huh. Next question?

Russ: got a friend of mine at work.......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: that is going to travel to various parts of Europe.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: England, France, Germany, so on and so forth.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and what I suggested to him today, we were discussing astral projection.......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and suggested that I would try to track down some pubs on the street where he would be staying that he could check out to verify my accuracy.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: being as he has.....

Omal: an interest but is very, very..........sorry, I cannot find the word.

Russ: unbelieving maybe?

Omal: pretty close, that will do.

Russ: so anyway, we're going to try to possibly spark not only more interest but a belief.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and so that's my goal I've set for myself.

Omal: yes and how are you going to proceed?

Russ: well I'm going to look up a street map of London.....

Omal: no, no, no, with this person.

Russ: oh. Basically, I'm going just take it real easily.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: because he has no idea of how I'm getting the information except that I'm astral projecting and told him I got the method from a magazine.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: but give him basically the info of what to look for.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and if he finds it's right, I'll let the rest do its own work.

Omal: okay, so you're going to proceed with caution?

Russ: right.

Omal: okay, that is what we wanted to know. Next question.

Russ: oh, okay. Navigation......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: we discussed that at a point previously.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: but now in dealing with navigation of streets on a earth city such as London......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: how exactly is that accomplished?

Omal: you get up above the streets you find on one of your charting devices, you find a reference point and presumably they have different types of buildings marked with different signs and you travel down the chosen path from above and look for a likely target. Now presumably, to make life easier for you, you need a road map.

Russ: right.

Omal: okay? And the best place would be in a local bookshop....

Russ: okay.

Omal: in the international travel section. Probably second shelf.

Russ: so I come down onto the street, travel the street and look for road signs?

Omal: hmm yeah, that might be the best bet.

Russ: because I have to find one particular street....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and a particular pub on the street.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and go and inspect it.

Omal: okay. Next question.

Russ: okay. Going to Sirius.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: I'd like to set up a time with Tia....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: where we can make a trip.

Omal: okay, how.....





(Tia begins night two of lessons)

Tia: okay, farsighting, lesson five. February the 17th?

Russ: correct.

Tia: ten something?

Russ: 11:25.

Tia: oh, 11:25 then. Yes, a little bit of work trying to figure out your time.

Russ: tricky for us to figure out our time but congratulations, how are you doing, very well?

Tia: hmm, I'm having fun, you know.

Russ: well that's good.

Tia: did you enjoy our little trip?

Russ: I enjoyed our trip very much.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: and, not the most exciting place in the world, I'm sure it has its up moments.

Tia: uh-huh. They know how to party when they want to.

Russ: well that's good.

Tia: uh-huh. Okay, down to business.

Russ: absolutely.

Tia: uh-huh. Questions please.

Russ: okay, today I was trying farsighting.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: fell asleep.

Tia: hmm.

Russ: and I woke back up.......

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: I found my astral body about a foot up over my real body....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: at a 90░ angle.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: and for once, this is one time when I had completely disassociated everything.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: scared me so bad I had to jump back in my body real quick. How come?

Tia: because you weren't expecting that disassociation that, to use a Japanese word, Mu.

(Russ laughs at that)

Tia: which means nothing.

Russ: okay. So that is what it would feel like normally?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: when I disassociate.

Tia: yep.

Russ: okay.

Tia: and how did you enjoy it?

Russ: scary as hell.

Tia: uh-huh. The first time I'm led to believe it is but my first time was a long time ago. Eons and eons and eons ago. Just kidding.

Russ: I know. It was educational feeling.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: kind of weird though. Instead of coming up through the body, as if my body had popped right up and out, straight out......

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: and then angled somehow or another.

Tia: yeah.

Russ: but why did it happen when I came up out of sleep? I had no control over it. I didn't will it that way, it was like that.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: is that because my mind was set towards that?

Tia: probably, probably.

Russ: so my body kind of cooperated with it.

Tia: uh-huh, yeah. But you weren't fully asleep. Your subconscious was not disengaging from your conscious so that the command had been given and your subconscious cooperated with your conscious. Meshing these two together is pretty hard to do, isn't it?

Russ: real hard.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: hmm.

Tia: takes practice.

Russ: okay. Now this evening we're going to be working on emergency procedures if I remember right?

Tia: unfortunately no.

Russ: oh.

Tia: no, because Korton and Mark went off to discuss.....

Russ: oh, right.

Tia: I don't know what they discuss.

Russ: well, what's the subjects tonight? Just basic refinements?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: oh good.

Tia: we have with us tonight the Hon. Lady Kiri.....

Russ: okay.

Tia: the Hon. Lady Karra......

Russ: ahhh.

Tia: and the right Hon. Sir Omal.

Russ: well that's good.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, now, about our trip the other night......

Tia: okay?

Russ: all right. So, any pointers on that?

Tia: hmm, you're still bleeding energy quite a bit.......

Russ: yeah.

Tia: which is useful for some people but unuseful for yourself but you need to be much more focused. Making that break would be much more helpful finding yourself, as you did this morning out of your body like that, would have been extremely beneficial. If I had been notified I could have helped you but.......

Russ: oh, sorry.

Tia: alas.

Russ: alas, alas.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: it was a surprise then for me too.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: but Mark says he's going to help me with the finer details of making that separation......

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: at some point.

Tia: okay, okay. When are you planning to discuss this because we would like to join in?

Russ: hopefully tomorrow maybe.

Tia: uh-huh, okay.

Russ: I don't know if he's going to be up for it tonight afterwards.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: but will try to work it out for tomorrow night sometime.

Tia: we'll see what happens.

Russ: okay, I'll try to notify you folks beforehand.

Tia: uh-huh. Okay, now then, we're going to go over the basics again.

Russ: okay.

Tia: okay. First of all, you get into a nice, relaxed position. I.e., a reclined position or a semi reclined sitting position. Whichever is comfortable for yourself.

Russ: hmm, okay.

Tia: okay? Now it doesn't matter in which order you do the breathing routine or shutting your chakras off, it doesn't really matter as long.......not your chakras, the switches on your legs.

Russ: right.

Tia: I always get that wrong, don't I?

Russ: yeah.

Tia: because I don't have to think about it. But it doesn't matter if you do your legs or the deep breathing. It doesn't matter in which order you do it as long as it is done.

Russ: okay.

Tia: and then feeling yourself get lighter and lighter until you're drifting out of your body and then you focus on the desired point that you wish to travel to.

Russ: right.

Tia: and then, gradually accelerating, you leave your surroundings and head off in the desired direction picking up fuel or energy for whatever purpose that you wish. If you wish to accelerate, you have extra fuel that you can use to boost yourself.

Russ: okay.

Tia: having arrived at your destination, you use the gravitational field to slow yourself down or, you can use it as a slingshot to fire you off onto your next point.

Russ: okay.

Tia: uh-huh. Now, returning........for example, let's say you are orbiting the planet orbiting Sirius, the one that we visited the other day.

Russ: right.

Tia: you rotate around it with the gravitational rotation of the planets maybe two or three times until it flicks you off in your desired direction using a slingshot effect.

Russ: hmmm.

Tia: you return back to your body and you reenter it activating the switches so that you are now whole again. Unless of course you're a smarty-pants and can do a time translation and then you're not whole until the allotted time is over.

Russ: yeah.

Tia: uh-huh. Do you have any questions?

Russ: I've got two.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: well one, I have a problem with my ribs, where if I lay on my back for too long.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: they start to really hurt and thinking maybe this sitting up position might be better for it.

Tia: okay, you can try that. It is a matter of experimenting on how you feel in whichever position that you wish.

Russ: right. Okay, the thing is, when we came into Sirius, I noticed that we came over the top of Sirius.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: and kind of dove into the gravity well on the other side.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: to slow ourselves down.

Tia: yeah.

Russ: that was kind of unusual.

Tia: hmm, everybody has their own techniques that they use. I use a variab.........I use a number of different techniques. It amuses you that I have difficulty with worms occasionally?

Russ: something like that.

Tia: uh-huh. Well you've got to remember, English isn't my native language.

Russ: well you pick it up well.

Tia: uh-huh. Well I try hard.

Russ: now then, what was the difference between let's say the farsighting we did where I was bleeding energy all over the place and the farsighting......or the out of body this morning. One bleeded, one didn't?

Tia: correct. One is of a more pure nature, the other is more of a rough and ready nature.

Russ: right, but my problem I find is that to get to the point I reached this morning.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: I have to be fairly somnolent.

Tia: yes, it is handy to be in a nice, relaxed state of mind but not a drug induced state of mind.

Russ: right.

Tia: because that lacks the control, you lose your control then.

Russ: right.

Tia: you want to go one way and the next minute you want to go another way and you can get very disoriented and then be hampered and even harm yourself.

Russ: hmm, okay.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: now then, so what I need to do is maintain a tighter focus on my purpose.

Tia: yes. When you start to travel, right?

Russ: right.

Tia: uh-huh. You have to be very focused. You could focus on your crystal if you want but when you transport you take it with you, correct?

Russ: right.

Tia: so you could hold it out in front of you and focus on it and also at the same time use your energy. Kind of hold your arms out in front of you with your crystal between your fingers as if you were in a dive from a diving board.

Russ: hmm, okay. I see.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: kind of like......yeah.

Tia: yeah, you get the idea?

Russ: right and then follow it out?

Tia: uh-huh, keeping it in front of you until it becomes unnecessary to use it. Use it like that instead of using it as a power source and comforter and a focusing point. You can use it just as a power source.

Russ: hmmm.

Tia: but you don't use that much power from it because you collect quite a bit of power, your own energy, the energy of the surrounding environment.

Russ: okay.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: now, to put myself into a trance mode, is there something besides the basics you gave me to help out there?

Tia: you could try experimenting with different techniques. You could try the Zen technique which I know nothing of. You could try Hindus or what's that religion in the high mountains of the Himalayas?

Russ: Buddha?

Tia: Buddhism?

Russ: Buddhism?

Tia: I think it's a form of Buddhism. You could try the Native American technique. There's so many different techniques that you can try.

Russ: okay.

Tia: uh-huh. Okay?

Russ: research.

Tia: yes, research more and more and more. And just when you think you can't do anymore research.....

Russ: more will come.

Tia: uh-huh. Keep you busy, don't we?

Russ: yes you do. Hold on one second, let me check something.

Tia: Incy Wincy spider went climbing up the spout, down came the rain and watch poor Incy out. There once was a lady.......no, I can't remember how that one goes. There was a young man from Cosham who took out his false teeth to wash them. His wife said, "oh Jack, if you don't put them back, my stamp in the bug was in swashdom". (?). How many Wookies does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

Russ: how many?

Tia: none, they get somebody else to do it for them.

Russ: oh God.

Tia: how many space pilots does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

Russ: how many?

Tia: twenty. First of all, they have to have a committee meeting to discuss the best ways to unscrew the first one. No, can't say that one.

Russ: okay.

Tia: that one's very rude and disgusting.

Russ: oh.

Tia: but it amuses me.

Russ: oh God. That's a good one though. Did you make those up yourself?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: that's very good.

Tia: well, I do have other talents apart from wiggling my hips and a little bit of a farsighter and learning about healing.

Russ: and guide extraordinaire.

Tia: uh-huh. Talented, aren't I?

Russ: talented. Okay, so I'll work on trance.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: okay. All right, that's all the questions I've got.

Tia: okay. Now then, let me think. You'll have to excuse the worms, that's me trying to think. Hmm, parties.

Russ: parties?

Tia: well party.

Russ: hmm.

Tia: uh-huh. Scheduled for, I believe it is a Saturday. Not this one but next one.

Russ: right.

Tia: okay? Which is February.......

Russ: 27th.

Tia: yeah.

Russ: uh-huh.

Tia: right on your......

Russ: amazing coincidence.

Tia: yes it is, isn't it?

Russ: yes.

Tia: okay. All right, it's going to be an informal affair so bring yourself and what you're wearing or what you want to wear.

Russ: right.

Tia: there will be food laid out and we are trying to talk certain hairy individuals into playing music.

Russ: excellent.

Tia: they have some questions for you as well which they will probably corner you and ask you about.

Russ: something about snowboarding probably.

Tia: probably. Don't think we'll have any flowers this time.

Russ: bummer.

Tia: well certain individuals get carried away with them, don't they? The garden will be open for entertainment.

Russ: excellent.

Tia: uh-huh. And I shall try to behave myself.

Russ: oh oh.

Tia: not!!!!

Russ: okay, so that will be sort of farsighting practice?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: good.

Tia: okay?

Russ: I can't wait to see yourself there at the time.

Tia: uh-huh. I have got to go and pick an outfit out as well.

Russ: you will be staying longer this time, won't you?

Tia: well it depends what happens.

Russ: true.

Tia: I mean at the moment, I can't have my fun. You know.

Russ: yeah, I know.

Tia: uh-huh. But in a couple days I'll be able to have as much fun as I want.

Russ: excellent.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: not far to go.

Tia: oh no. No, certain individuals are going to have a lot of fun. Okay? Right, let me see, anymore questions I have for you......no.....no.......well I'm getting prodded to answer your question that you asked earlier on. Hold on a second, I'll get the answer. Okay, the reason why Ashtar will not go solid down here, there, wherever, is because, let's hope I can get it right, that he has a lot to do and it would be a waste of time to come to your dimension to satisfy the curiosity of a small minority.

Russ: true.

Tia: and what would be achieved by doing this?

Russ: right, so he can though?

Tia: presumably.

Russ: presumably, okay.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: I was not sure.

Tia: okay. Now then, have you contacted, I'm acting as a relay here.........

Russ: okay.

Tia: have you contacted, guess who?

Russ: the Beth monster?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: Bethany, right.

Tia: yeah.

Russ: okay yes, we did contact her. I called her the next day, Mark called her the day after that.

Tia: okay, and did she respond?

Russ: neither called to respond.

Tia: uh-huh. She's having time to mull it over and she's a busy young lady.

Russ: right.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: so yeah, we're still back where we were.

Tia: time. Time and sun melts the snowman.

Russ: we got plenty of it.

Tia: yeah, that's not right though, is it?

Russ: uh-uh.

Tia: a stitch in time saves the cat......no.

Russ: stitch in time saves nine?

Tia: a stitch in time saves this moment.

Russ: right.

Tia: uh-huh. I'm having fun, aren't I?

Russ: oh yeah.

Tia: just amusing myself. You want me to sing for you?

Russ: yes please.

Tia: hmm, let me think.If I can get this right.

(Tia and Russ sing Frere Jacques)

Russ: well good.

Tia: merci bein Monsieur.

Russ: the French version indeed.

Tia: oui. je m'appelle Tia. Vous appelles Russell.

Russ: tu parles franšais magnifique.

Tia: c'est bon. Je parle franšais por moi? Vous parle un franšais un peu.

Russ: un petit.

Tia: un petit peu. O

Russ: thank you Tia.

Tia: it amuses you that I'm multilingual?

Russ: well multilingual.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: very nice. Well it shows a grasp of Mark's facilities.

Tia: uh-huh. It is hard work, believe me.

Russ: I do believe it.

Tia: okay, it's time for me to sit on the sidelines and watch what's going on. So I'm going to step out and then step out again and I am going to sit in a corner and watch. Or try to.

Russ: have fun.

Tia: uh-huh.

(Karra comes on for questions next)

Karra: greetings Beanpole.

Russ: greetings Karra.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: how you doing?

Karra: fine. And who will be joined shortly by a young lady that is going farsighting.

Russ: ahhh, Tia's dropping off for a visit.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: excellent.

Karra: I wonder where she'll stop by.

Russ: we'll find out.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: excellent.

Karra: it will take her a few seconds, she's not a master farsighter like some people.

Russ: right, not me.

Karra: okay, do you have questions for me?

Russ: yeah, I do.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, I managed to try a trip today you might have noticed being as I was there on a ski lift.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: how successful was that from your end of it?

Karra: not bad.

Russ: not bad.

Karra: no.

Russ: well, it was only a try.

uh-huh, practice makes perfect.

Russ: that's true.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: well I was trying to get kind of a split......split.....

Karra: connection?

Russ: yeah, kinda like that.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: kind of awareness in two different places at once.

Karra: that is why it is so hard.

Russ: it was very difficult.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: but if you don't try, it's nothing ventured, nothing gained.

Karra: correct. If you always play it safe, then what?

Russ: right. But I'll keep trying and keep working at it.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: it's kind of new, what else can I do to kind of enhance that possibly?

Karra: practice......

Russ: right.

Karra: negative feedback loop.

Russ: hmm.

Karra: patience, determination, and knowledge of the game.

(Russ laughs at that one)

Russ: an answer I wasn't expecting.

Karra: uh-huh, deep and meaningful.

Russ: deep and meaningful indeed.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, did you get a chance to monitor a certain individual that spent the night here in the magic room?

Karra: not me personally.

Russ: ahh. It was monitored.

Karra: presumably.

Russ: it was interesting encounter to say the least.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: still a little weird about it though. I don't exactly know what or why that happened.

Karra: these things happen.

Russ: seemed like there was a karmic kind of payback you might say.

Karra: possibly, possibly. Okay, next question.

Russ: all right. Trying to figure out a way to set up a energy field in my aura......

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: that would work........or my shields that would work on enhancing my farsighting along with everything else.

Karra: you should've asked Tia that.

Russ: I know.

Karra: I'm a healer, not a farsighter.

Russ: well that's why I'm asking you about this because it has to do with working with the aura within the shields.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: is there a way to program the aura to be like......

Karra: a battery? To get charged by it?

Russ: right, yeah, that's kind of it.

Karra: hmm, that's a hard one. It's a little out of my field.

Russ: oh.

Karra: my field is more the physical body, not the astral.

Russ: oh, okay, I see.

Karra: uh-huh. I can heal quite a few things, I can fix quite a few things, I can do quite a lot but when it comes to the astral body, that's not my line of work. I'm more into physical things. Weird, how did I do that?

Russ: right leg.

Karra: yeah, but how did I do it?

Russ: I assume you hit the right button.

Karra: hmm.

Russ: you're the one who deals with physical bodies.

Karra: yeah, but I normally just use the vocal system.

Russ: well it seems everybody's been kind of playing with the body lately. Maybe you just hit on one of the recently used ones.

Karra: yeah, possibly. I better be careful where I put my fingers.

Russ: okay.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: last question.

Karra: okay.

Russ: how's Klarra?

Karra: mischievous.

Russ: is she now?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: so she's able to kind of get on her knees now, isn't it?

Karra: yeah.

Russ: it's kind of a nice turn for her.

Karra: uh-huh, yes.

Russ: so you're expecting this rapid growth?

Karra: yes, she's a little bit more rapid than I anticipated.

Russ: really?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: well she was an experiment.

Karra: yeah, true, true.

Russ: I mean you have to figure there's going to be some kind of differences.

Karra: uh-huh. Well I'm so used to a pretty regular set pattern that infants go through and she seems to be a little bit ahead in some things and way ahead in others. When she's old enough, I think she's going to become a real master farsighter. Possibly a strong coercer, maybe not as strong as little sis, and her farsighting will probably be just above Tia's range. And she is there I think. Can you see her, or feel her or is she being stealth?

Russ: I think she's behind me.

Karra: okay, well if she's there then she's there. She's definitely not here. Well physically she is.

Russ: right.

Karra: but spiritually and mentally no, she's not here. Oh well, let's carry on. When are you going to try to go solid?

Russ: well I was told not to try until we went through the emergency procedures.

Karra: oh yes, of course.

Russ: so I can't even work on practicing yet until I get that down.

Karra: Mr. Korton is busy.

Russ: yes, I know.

Karra: I do have so much I want to discuss and do with you.

Russ: well I'm set with the procedures......

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: it's just I can't put them into effect yet.

Karra: okay.

Russ: but I know what to look for.

Karra: I want to go swimming with you and sunbathing and all sorts of interesting things.

Russ: well today I got my closest point yet....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: to going to at least going to a solid point.

Karra: yeah, uh-huh.

Russ: separating my body more completely than usual so it's kind of like a guideline for me.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: I'm kind of anxious to keep practicing on that.

Karra: okay.

Russ: so we'll see what happens. In the meantime, probably going to just practice getting into the trance mode to where I can just get my body up and out like a did this morning.

Karra: well that's good. Okay, I'm going to have to go off because I got two things to do. One is to change a dirty whatever is.....what do you call them, diapers?

Russ: nappies.

Karra: nappies. So, I'm gonna leave you in the hands of whomever is going to be available for the next little bit of chit chat or information or whatever.

(A watch beeps)

Karra: and presumably that is 11 o'clock?

Russ: twelve.

Karra: oh, twelve, uh-huh. So....

Russ: farewell Karra, we'll talk to you later.

Karra: yep.

Russ: okay, bye.

Karra: bye.

(Kiri follows up her sister as speaker)

Russ: hi Kiri. I always worry when you do that.

Kiri: hmmm.

Russ: all right, what's up?

Kiri: what's up, what's up? You know, I know.

Russ: well you're in a good mood.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: all right. So, is Tia here I take it?

Kiri: uh-huh. Yeah, she's sitting in for her amusement and then all three of us are going to head down to have a snowball fight and they're going skiing.

Russ: well be careful where you get hit.

Kiri: oh, I can repel things.

Russ: oh good.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: see, you're a pretty big target.

Kiri: thanks.

Russ: just don't turn sideways. Hit the side door of a Kiri.

Kiri: listen here Buster, if I could move things, I'd come over and stitch your legs together. I'll manifest for you, needle and cotton.

Russ: well I feel pretty safe.

Kiri: uh-huh. Think yourself lucky.

Russ: I do.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: well, looking forward to our party coming up?

Kiri: hmm, not in my current condition.

Russ: well yeah, you're not going to be a party animal, I'll say that.

Kiri: no, I've got two months and one week......

Russ: yea!!!!!!!!

Kiri: and three days.

Russ: yea!!!!!!!!

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: counting them off the calendar, huh?

Kiri: yep. I'm short I think is the expression that was used earlier on

Russ: so what else is up, Kiri?

Kiri: between you me and the gate post, I think Tia's getting, what's the word, broody?

Russ: broodmare.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: yep.

Kiri: she's getting impatient and guess who will not let her?

Russ: Kornas.

Kiri: uh-huh. I don't think it's because they're not compatible genetically. Probably are compatible, I haven't seen the reports. It's probably that they don't want her to at this stage because she's such a youngster.

Russ: well they'll probably want to see the results from you and Mark and see if they're viable at that point or she's next.

Kiri: you think so?

Russ: I think so.

Kiri: I like my current condition, maybe I'll go again.

Russ: that's not what you were saying two weeks ago.

Kiri: now, I didn't say that I hated my current condition.

Russ: no.

Kiri: and I didn't say that I hated Mark.

Russ: no.

Kiri: I just said it made me feel uncomfortable, sensitive.

Russ: you were saying I can't wait this thing to pop.

Kiri: true, but I don't have that menstrual problem. I don't get mean for three or four days at a time.

Russ: that's true. That's nine weeks of....

Kiri: nine months.

Russ: nine months of pleasure.

Kiri: quite a bit of pleasure. But it's only maybe two days at a time instead of three, four, even five days of, "don't touch me".

Russ: true.

Kiri: uh-huh. So which is better? And, when I'm in a good mood, I can do it whenever I want to.

Russ: true.

Kiri: can't get much better than that, can you?

Russ: well you have to put up with all these pregnant jokes from me.

Kiri: I can put up with those Mr. Invisible Man when you stand sideways.

Russ: well you wait for the party, it's going to be a fun time.

Kiri: uh-huh. I'll be there.

Russ: we'll have a party and dancing and good food.

Kiri: uh-huh. I'll just sit on the sidelines and talk with anybody that wants to talk. Talk with a little hooligan and then probably have to babysit as well. So Klarra can talk with me. She getting very centered, not so much a little mind anymore.

Russ: really?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: more verbal you might say?

Kiri: more verbal mentally instead of just one word or two words, it's a sentence.

Russ: oh, she's picking up stuff quick.

Kiri: uh-huh. And I hope she likes this one. She probably will.

Russ: I think so.

Kiri: it'll be a little plaything for her.

Russ: yeah, I think they'll be real close to development wise.

Kiri: uh-huh. Guess what I know?

Russ: what?

Kiri: I know what it is.

Russ: you do?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: is this information we can pass on to the tape recorder?

Kiri: well, Omal says it's okay but you know, I know.

Russ: well I know what it is too.

Kiri: you think so, huh?

Russ: I know so.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: there's only one thing that it could be.

Kiri: it's my choice what it is.

Russ: which means there's only one thing it could be.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: you, who I said was such a logical girl......

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: would choose only the most logical of decisions to do.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: so there's no question.

Kiri: so what do you think it is?

Russ: it's a boy.

(Russ laughs)

Kiri: pout, pout.

Russ: are you so transparent?

Kiri: probably if I could do Tia's thing I would be that transparent. No, it is logical, deductive reasoning.

Russ: is very logical.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: you are very logical girl.

Kiri: but I, actually to tell the truth, have no choice in the matter nor did anybody else.

Russ: well yes, but with the gene pool that you guys a work in on is only one thing it could have been.

Kiri: uh-huh. No, it wasn't you are going to have a boy. It was, is it going to be a boy, is it going to be a girl, or do you want us to make sure it's a boy? And it was, see what happens and this is what it is.

Russ: yes, but your mind all the time was saying what?

Kiri: what I wanted and what happened are two totally different things.

Russ: you think so?

Kiri: hmm, I try not to exert an influence over it.

Russ: hmm.

Kiri: what I wanted and what I got are the same thing but there was that certain amount of, is it going to be or is it not going to be?

Russ: so subconsciously you wouldn't be able to have any control over.....

Kiri: no, the subconscious cannot.

Russ: oh.

Kiri: so I try to be as unbiased as possible.

Russ: but now with karmic implications.......

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: you or the offspring would choose his parents.

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: in this case his parents.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and so he would know......

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: pretty much the way the future would be set up to plan......


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