SIDE
ONE
(Kiri gets the session ready for the night's guest
speaker)
Russ: how's it going love?
Kiri: totally excellent.
Russ: well good.
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: not going to juggle too much unless you're
going to have a tape recorder on your back.
Kiri: oh goody. So, what do you want to know dude?
Russ: well, we can just start from anywhere but,
since you're mistress of ceremonies this
evening........
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: I assume we only have two minutes and ten
seconds.
Kiri: punctuality.
(Russ laughs)
Kiri: punctuality in capital letters I believe.
Russ: well then I assume you'll be back later
on.....
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: so I'll save all my questions for you for
later on.
Kiri: okay. I'm not going just yet.
Russ: no, you've got.......
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: one minute and fifty seconds.
Kiri: yeah.
Russ: so, how's Tia?
Kiri: oh, she's sleeping I think would be the best
way to put it. She's totally out, out to lunch.
Russ: so passed out would probably be a better way
to say it.
Kiri: uh-huh, basically. Little monsters.
Russ: well they are adorable.
Kiri: uh-huh. Soon as she starts getting
uncomfortable I went GOONNNEEE!!!! Gone...didn't
need to be bitten again. As much as I love and adore
Tia, I don't like to be bit.
Russ: you could always file her teeth down a little
bit.
Kiri: uh-huh. And clip her claws?
Russ: clip her claws.
Kiri: and get her spayed so it doesn't happen again.
(Russ laughs again pretty hard)
Russ: it might not be the best solution.
Kiri: no, I don't think it would be.
Russ: she might object.
Kiri: if I coerced her she wouldn't have any say in
the matter. But, that would not be on.
Russ: no, it wouldn't be.
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: she'd be a little put out I'm afraid.
Kiri: yeah, she's a little bit wigged out. Is that
the correct phrase?
Russ: wigged out, yes, that works out just fine.
Kiri: uh-huh. Okay, well, times up, I've got to hand
over.
Russ: right, enjoy darling, we'll talk to you later.
Kiri: share and enjoy.
Russ: share and enjoy.
(Kornas comes on to channel for
the rest of the side)
Kornas: greetings and felicitations Russ.
Punctuality is always appreciated.
Russ: our pleasure Kornas, it's the least we could
do.
Kornas: greetings.
Russ: greetings indeed.
Kornas: and I believe tonight's discussion is on
biomagnetics.......
Russ: absolutely.
Kornas: and the effects on biorhythms.
Russ: correct. And the magnetic fields associated.
Kornas: correct.
Russ: okay.
Kornas: okay, let us proceed. We are measuring our
words so that we can weigh each word with the
necessary weight that it should hold.
Russ: it's a weighty matter I take it then?
Kornas: an attempt at humor?
Russ: sort of.
Kornas: interesting. Okay.
Russ: all right.
Kornas: now, biorhythms and biomagnetics. Bio
rhythms go through a monthly cycle.......
Russ: uh-huh.
Kornas: approximately two weeks from one point from
the low point to the high point and then declining
again.
Russ: correct.
Kornas: the effects with bio magnets is that it
enhances the physical well-being of the 14th day
that you will feel at your best. The period of the
day before, the day during, and the day after. Now
biomagnetics will help the body to achieve a better
harmony.
Russ: uh-hmmm.
Kornas: the balance necessary for maximum function
of the body created by biomagnetics is the factor
that will help to rejuvenate the body. The first
step of rejuvenating the body with biomagnetics is a
matter of diet.
Russ: okay.
Kornas: a nice, balanced diet of vitamins, minerals,
and necessary proteins. Carbohydrates are also
useful and also starches.
Russ: hmmm.
Kornas: the process to start off rejuvenation is to
start by getting rid of any inflicted ailments.
Russ: hmmm.
Kornas: then, starting on a nice, even diet of equal
proportions as necessary for your function on the
various food groups with an intake of vitamins and
minerals. Then, when you have achieved a good energy
flow for the body, you will start on an exercise
program by increasing the weight content of the
muscles. Building up the muscles by vigorous
activities but starting slowly as to not place too
much stress on the body. This also has another
effect of strengthening the bone structure as more
calcium for the bones will be produced and therefore
decreasing the aging effect on the bones which after
a time go brittle.
Russ: hmmm.
Kornas: a good example of bone structure being
strengthened is in athletes.
Russ: uh-huh.
Kornas: needing a sound structure, athletes tend to
have an active life and stronger bone structure in
the areas that are used in their athletic pursuit.
Now, the final phase is with bio magnets. Sleeping
in a pure environment so there is no harmful
background radiation, you can then surround the
individual with biomagnetic magnets in a nice,
evenly spaced pattern around them, North to South
all the way.
Russ: hmmm.
Kornas: North running northwards, South running
southward. As was mentioned last time, it is not
necessary always to be aligned North South but, with
rejuvenation, it is. It will not rejuvenate you to a
state ten years previous or twenty years previous
but it will slow down the aging effect and reverse
it on a minor scale. In your species, age is
noticeable by wrinkling and hardening of the
arteries and Myopathies. Myopathies is where the
muscles of the eye and the eye itself becomes harder
so therefore glasses are necessary. Some people feel
that glasses improve the individual, that is a
matter of opinion. Also, another affect of the
rejuvenation process is on hair loss. Hair will not
be lost as rapidly but it will grow more rapidly and
even replace itself in areas where it has become
less dense.
Russ: hmmm.
Kornas: now, depending on the size of bio magnets
and the pure environment chamber, meaning the
environmental chamber of pure oxygen. No dust
particles, no artificial materials. This chamber
here would not be appropriate as it would have to be
surgically sterile also. So, now to deal with the
size of the biomagnetic magnets. Depending on the
desired effect, you will increase or decrease the
size. We are aware that some of your species are
very much preoccupied by appearances and the aging
process. The aging process and its concern of what
happens to the individual is frivolous as healthy
eating would render bio magnets inoperative or
useless if the correct eating regime is instigated
at an early age.
Russ: hmmm.
Kornas: so, to deal with the individual that is
preoccupied with rejuvenation who wishes a great
effect you would have larger bio magnets ranging in
size depending on their desire for rejuvenation. The
state of rejuvenation is also a state of mind. To
become young have to think young.
Russ: uh-huh.
Kornas: with the aid of bio magnets as well, this
would accelerate the rejuvenation process. The
person may look five to ten years younger depending
on their age. Some people do not need to be
rejuvenating as they have a natural rejuvenation
which unfortunately after a length of time fails to
function correctly and that is beyond repair at that
stage. Somebody that may be ninety years old will
appear to be fifty or sixty years old and they may
live to be a hundred and ten of your years.
Russ: hmmm.
Kornas: but, by using bio magnets as well, you can
increase the life expectancy. Now, to describe the
apparatus. The apparatus for rejuvenation is quite
simple. It is a clean, clinical environment with a
nice, comfortable couch for your comfort and
convenience. Biomagnetics of various sizes, again
depending on the individual's desire for
rejuvenation would be appropriately used. A pure
oxygen environment would also be helpful. The size
of the biomagnetics would be starting off from about
an inch in length by half an inch in width placed
next to the skin. Or, for more dramatic effect, you
would use larger magnets depending on again, the
desire of the individual for an accelerated process.
However, with accelerating the rejuvenation process,
becomes a more dependency on the necessary
reapplication on a regular basis because by
accelerating the rejuvenation process, once it
starts to wear off, the aging process reinserts
itself and is accelerated to regain where the
individual was. The rejuvenation of an accelerated
patient is quite traumatic but, because of the
decaying afterwards, it is also again very sad and
dramatic.
Russ: uh-huh.
Kornas: so is always advisable first of all to talk
the patient into using smaller bio magnet's. So
therefore the rejuvenation process takes longer and
the effects will last longer also. Instead of maybe
six months to a year, it may be two and a half years
to five years and then it would have to be reapplied
again. This is rejuvenation by bio magnets. There
are other forms of rejuvenation which are much more
spectacular and last longer. However, to disclose
this would not be appropriate at this time.
Russ: uh-huh.
Kornas: now, do you have questions for me?
Russ: uh-huh. Now then, on the biomagnetics working
with the biorhythms, it's a two week period so you
want to catch the biorhythms at the appropriate
time.
Kornas: yes.
Russ: how would you judge that time and that person?
Kornas: you would study their high points and their
low points over a period of time. Six months to a
year would be best.
Russ: and how would you get the information, asking
them?
Kornas: you would ask them to keep a record of how
they feel day by day. Are they happy, do they feel
energetic, are they very active? Or do they feel
tired, lethargic, and inactive. By mapping out a
regular pattern, you will see that the biorhythms go
through a cycle and you will figure out the optimum
time to start to apply the biomagnetics to interact
with the biorhythms.
Russ: hmmm. Now using the biomagnetics in between
this time when the peak period isn't happening, the
results would be less but still there?
Kornas: correct. The individual will not feel as
lethargic as normal. There are some exceptions to
the rules as there is to every rule.
Russ: so it would be helpful to map out our
biorhythms even without bio magnets right now.
Kornas: correct. So therefore you would be able to
place at the appropriate time when to apply the bio
magnets to have the maximum affect.
Russ: okay. Now there are graphs and stuff that can
help you map out such things.
Kornas: yes.
Russ: so possibly finding something that's already
been produced might be helpful?
Kornas: yes, that would be very useful.
Russ: okay, good. I'll look into that. Now then, you
mentioned the fact that this would work well, or you
would have to be able to get rid of the inflicted
ailments.
Kornas: yes.
Russ: by that, would that mean things that have been
caught such as cancer or something let's say
somebody broke a bone?
Kornas: things such as polluting the body with
alcohol, drugs, anything that has a negative effect
on the body that is self-inflicted for pleasure.
Russ: oh, so they would have to stop that?
Kornas: if they have a problem with it.
Russ: right.
Kornas: alcohol can be very useful to relax the
body, to let off steam. But a regular indulgence in
such habits.....
Russ: support?
Kornas: yes, to excess where it is a regular
occurrence that an individual may overindulge to the
point of becoming addicted to the substance is not
recommended because that negates any effect on the
bio magnets or makes it harder for them to work.
Russ: I see. Now would drinking a lot of water come
in with this then?
Kornas: mineral water, various types of elixirs that
we were working on just recently.
Russ: okay.
Kornas: these would help to get the energy balances
back into a correct order.
Russ: hmmm, okay. Now one thing on........this is
dealing with people who are wishing for rejuvenation
or preoccupied with it.
Kornas: uh-huh.
Russ: one of the main reasons for using this is I
can see right now is not for such as rejuvenation
but more or less ailments that people have that are
say chronic or problems.
Kornas: a preoccupation with one's appearance can
also be an ailment.
Russ: hmmm, that's true. Okay, so now instead of
rejuvenation, let's say somebody wanted to work on a
defect in their bones.
Kornas: you would apply the bio magnets along that
area either side. If it is a limb, you would run the
bio magnets down beside the afflicted area, one on
each side working your way down.
Russ: okay. Would we still go through the same
regimen as we're doing with rejuvenation then I take
it?
Kornas: yes, but modified.
Russ: in other words, in lesser amounts then?
Kornas: yes.
Russ: oh.
Kornas: you see, to heal an area, it is necessary to
have the correct frame of mind.
Russ: uh-huh.
Kornas: a good analogy is the patient survived the
operation but lacked the desire to recover.
Russ: uh-huh. So what we're talking about here is a
mental rejuvenation....
Cora: yes.
Russ: to the system....
Kornas: correct.
Russ: the correction of his body.
Kornas: correct.
Russ: then you can work on the rejuvenation of the
body.
Cora: correct.
Russ: I see, good. Okay now, with the exercise
program, are we talking sit-ups or is this just say
going out for the usual sports?
Kornas: going out for the usual sports to strengthen
the bone structure, vigorous activities are
necessary.
Russ: like weightlifting or something?
Kornas: yes, to a certain extent. Weightlifting,
jogging, anything that involves vigorous activity.
Russ: okay, so the whole lot.
Kornas: yes.
Russ: hmm, okay. That might be the better bet then.
All right, now then, with the calcium, I've
understood that people can sometimes get excess
calcium deposits and stuff.
Kornas: correct.
Russ: how is that avoided in the increase in calcium
then?
Kornas: normally as a rule when you are working on
increasing calcium, it is in the area that needs
increasing.
Russ: oh, so the calcium will automatically go to
the areas where it's needed.
Kornas: correct. It is produced reasonably naturally
through the body. Occasionally it will pool in areas
but as a rule, if you're working on an arm, it will
spread along the bone structure of that arm.
Russ: hmm, okay. How do you know when you've reached
a maximum and you've gone too much?
Kornas: there is no such thing as a maximum.
Russ: oh good.
Kornas: because calcium is being replaced constantly
so therefore when you're building up on an arm, you
will reach a point where the balance of replacing is
equal to that of loss.
Russ: ohhhh, and then it will come out in hair and
follicles and....
Kornas: correct.
Russ: get itself out.
Kornas: yes, nails and so on.
Russ: right. Now on the pure environment where it
says no radiation, are we talking about radiation
from radios or...
Kornas: we are talking about all forms of radiation.
Russ: there's solar radiation that comes through
buildings and stuff.
Kornas: that is an unfortunate factor. It is useful
for improving the species but for rejuvenation it
can be a little bit hampering.
Russ: so we're not talking an lead shielded building
here?
Kornas: no.
Russ: radiation of the artificial kind.
Kornas: yes.
Russ: okay. Now what radiations would be found
normally that I wouldn't assume are radiations?
Kornas: radiation from bedrock. Granite gives off
radiation.
Russ: oh.
Kornas: radiation from the wrong sort of lighting,
florescent lighting for example.
Russ: oh.
Kornas: radiation from radios, magnets that would
interrupt with the bio magnetic field.
Russ: I see. Oh, that's why, because radiation
interferes.
Kornas: correct.
Russ: oh, I understand. Okay, now then, how would
the person feel different after a session?
Kornas: the first session, there wouldn't be that
noticeable difference. They may feel more energetic,
but they would not notice any change to start off
with. It is a gradual process unless of course you
go in for the accelerated process.
Russ: right.
Kornas: which we advise against due to the fact that
anybody that wants to be accelerated will also have
to pay the consequences afterwards.
Russ: right. Okay, now then, you don't add
biomagnetics until after you've gotten everything
else set.
Kornas: correct.
Russ: okay.
Kornas: the reason why is because the frame of mind
is created that aids the process of the bio magnets.
Until the point where the mind and the body are in
harmony, it is impractical to use bio magnets as it
would be a waste of time because the individual
still has to deal with the problems that are
self-inflicted......
Russ: ohhhh.
Kornas: and to deal with the day-to-day maintenance
of getting in balance with the correct diet.
Russ: I see.
Kornas: you can use them at the same time as getting
the body in shape but, it is negated by the
necessary adjustments that have to be made. But once
the adjustments have been made and accepted, then
the rejuvenation process can actually start.
Russ: I see. Now, would it be helpful then possibly
to start using them beforehand just to get the
mental process in mind?
Kornas: if you wish. But again, we must point out
that the first steps are the necessary steps and it
would be impractical or a waste of time to use them
to have an individual lying down surrounded by bio
magnets for an hour a day that is not ready yet.
Russ: hmmmm.
Kornas: but if you wish to do it that way, that is
acceptable.
Russ: so the psychological kind of thing.
Kornas: yes.
Russ: get their psych going in that direction so
when their body is ready for it, they've already got
themselves ready to accept it.
Kornas: correct.
Russ: okay, that's a thought. Now, they'll still get
wrinkles and gray hair I take it?
Kornas: yes, but it will not be as rapid.
ResKarra: hmmm, okay, I understand. All right, now
then, we're talking about a clean room here.
Kornas: yes.
Russ: tough to construct.
Kornas: but not impossible I assume.
Russ: not impossible, right. So this would be
farther down the line when rejuvenation is ready.
Kornas: yes.
Russ: right now though it might be helpful to go the
lesser amount and just work on individual
ailments....
Kornas: correct.
Russ: before rejuvenation.
Kornas: right. For individual ailments, no special
environment is needed although it would be nice as
it would be a much better effect.
Russ: right, okay. Now then, their thoughts could
throw the whole process off I take it.
Kornas: not throw it off, slow it down.
Russ: hmm.
Kornas: to achieve the necessary effect, it is
useful to have a positive, healthy attitude. Some
people may say that the person is rejuvenating
themselves by having a positive mental attitude.
Russ: uh-huh.
Kornas: but the bio magnets also interact on this
and will achieve a much quicker effect then just by
thinking oneself healthy and young.
Russ: hmm. Now those people with natural
rejuvenation abilities, this would merely enhance
them.
Kornas: correct.
Russ: okay, so one thing is that once they got to a
point where their enhancement started slowing down,
or I mean the rejuvenation started slowing down,
this would pick up the.....
Kornas: correct, the necessary inactive capability
to rejuvenate oneself.
Russ: I see. Now, where they're going through the
not the accelerated program, how many treatments to
last two and a half to five years or is this
treatments for two
and a half to five years?
Kornas: this is treatment over a period of six
months.
Russ: oh.
Kornas: and then starting from final treatment on is
the beginning of the two and a half to five
year span.
Russ: that's until they need it again.
Kornas: correct.
Russ: okay, so that's six months, that's like an
hour a week?
Kornas: correct.
Russ: oh. Okay, good.
Kornas: but with experimentation, you may be able to
decrease the period of time.
Russ: hmm. So in other words, if they didn't come
back after that five years, or the two and a half
years, the process would begin again only in a
faster pace?
Kornas: sorry, we do not understand.
Russ: oh, I'm saying after that six months, they get
their treatments, they go off two and a half years
later, after those treatments wear off and then the
process begins again with aging.
Kornas: correct.
Russ: and only come back even faster than it was
before.
Kornas: hmm, not as fast, maybe at the same pace but
with the accelerated process it would be more rapid.
Russ: hmm. Yeah, no point then at that point.
Otherwise....
Kornas: correct. If it was to return but accelerated
after the period of time from the last treatment to
the start of the new treatment. That would be
undesirable and the individual would be better off
never having received the treatment.
Russ: right, so it's best not to accelerate it.
Kornas: correct.
Russ: hmmm. Now, is there a way to make the
biomagnetics or do they have to be manufactured
somewhere else?
Kornas: we do not believe that you have the
capability to produce them.
Russ: I don't think so either.
Kornas: next question please.
Russ: okay, on the acceleration. Once that they've
started off on the accelerated program if they
wanted that, then they'd have to be coming back a
lot sooner than the two and a half years.
Kornas: correct. We have already stated that it is
for a lot less time.
Russ: right.
Kornas: six months to a year.
Russ: it seems like six months is not an extreme
amount of time.
Kornas: no, so we must recommend the less of the
two, the un-accelerated pace.
Russ: okay. Now if a person was to say wear
biomagnetics in their clothing say.....
Kornas: uh-huh.
Russ: this will eliminate the bio rhythmic cycles
since they would be getting treatment no matter what
point?
Kornas: no, it would decrease the lows but it would
not do away with them totally.
Russ: hmmm, okay. So you would need to find that
period.
Kornas: correct.
Mescaline okay. Now then, we discussed before the
placement of individual magnets upon the various
ailments the body has.
Kornas: yes.
Russ: now, without the biorhythms, how effective
would this be?
Kornas: moderate, a moderate improvement but within
harmony with the biorhythms, it is much more
effective.
Russ: uh-huh, okay. Now then, with the biorhythms,
would a person merely be able to look at a two week
period and they had a really great day, say that's
the day it is and they look at the next two weeks
and......
Kornas: correct.
Russ: hmmm. So your best bet is to start on a really
great day.....
Kornas: uh-huh.
Russ: and then watch the next two weeks.
Kornas: correct.
Russ: and at the end of that two weeks if you have
another great day you have found your biorhythm.
Kornas: correct.
Russ: hmmm.
Kornas: well, in actual fact you should be at the
end of the two weeks at the low point starting to
climb back up out.
Russ: oh, I see.
Kornas: from a high point to a high point takes
approximately 28 days, 28 to 30 days.
Russ: now why is that? Why is the biorhythms so
affect the body as much as they do?
Kornas: it is because of the energy of the
individual and the planetary energy in conjunction
with the celestial energy and pull of the gravity of
the moon.
Russ: u-huh.
Kornas: unfortunately, I cannot give you a detailed
explanation as I am not an astronomer.
Russ: correct. So, looking at the way the planets
effect a person.....
Kornas: uh-huh.
Russ: would give a clue also when might be a good
time to use them.
Kornas: not planets, the moon, your nearest
celestial neighbor.
Russ: okay. With the earth's magnetism working as it
does....
Kornas: uh-huh.
Russ: we discussed using the pyramid with this as
increasing the effectiveness of it.
Kornas: I'll have to get back to you on that as I'm
still running the program through my computer.
Russ: okay.
Kornas: it seems to be taking a little bit longer
than I wanted it to.
Russ: uh-huh. Now, how about working with a Ley
line? Same problem?
Kornas: yes, same problem I'm afraid.
Russ: okay.
Kornas: the computer models are very detailed and
precise.
Russ: I understand. Okay, now then, hold off then on
making an order for this until the computer models
are complete or go ahead and start working on.....
Kornas: that is your decision.
Russ: all right. Now then, besides biomagnetics,
there's still quite a number of ways to work with
the body without them to find rejuvenation then as
you mentioned.
Kornas: yes.
Russ: but we're not ready to discuss that.
Kornas: no, not yet.
Russ: okay. Could working with crystals though be
something that could be started in the meantime?
Kornas: yes.
Russ: okay. Now, crystals working on a magnetic
frequency, we were talking about with the healing
parts and the frequency.
Kornas: uh-huh.
Russ: could you use crystals in a similar manner as
biomagnetics?
Kornas: you could use them in conjunction with
biomagnetics.
Russ: ahhh. Okay, and how would that work and how
would that be used in conjunction?
Kornas: you would place them underneath the subject
within the apparatus itself.
Russ: hmmm. Now what if the person laying on a
biomagnetic say blanket......
Kornas: uh-huh.
Russ: and you took a crystal and you worked on the
person's problems that they had, would the
biomagnetic force that you're employing with the
crystal then work in conjunction also with the
magnetics of the biomagnetics?
Kornas: yes.
Russ: would it work in such that the polarities
would be enhanced?
Kornas: yes, by a noticeable amount.
Russ: uh-huh. Okay, so in other words, what you're
doing is you're forming a circuit.
Kornas: correct. It is like an electronic
instrument.
Russ: I see. So they're laying on a field
essentially...
Kornas: uh-huh, yes.
Russ: and you're placing on top of that a directed
field from the crystal...
Kornas: yes.
Russ: therefore you're aligning up those sections of
the body that work with the magnetics of the
biomagnetics.
Kornas: correct.
Russ: ahhh, okay. Now, their mind could be
programmed..........they could be programming their
mind at the same time to assist you with this.
Kornas: correct. It is a mental attitude which is
the most important thing.
Russ: okay. So a little prompting, biomagnetics and
a crystal......
Kornas: uh-huh.
Russ: you would get some visible results.....
Kornas: in a short time.
Russ: in a very short time. Okay, and if possible,
could we add in to the computer model then the
pyramid?
Kornas: that has already been programmed in. We try
to anticipate questions.
Russ: boy, we've had a lot of experience working on
this stuff so I'm sure you knew exactly what I'd be
asking more or less........kind of.
Kornas: yes.
Russ: okay. Now, lastly, would an assistant or two
working in conjunction be even more effective?
Kornas: hmmmm.....
Russ: if all worked in harmony.
Kornas: in harmony yes. One assistant may be better
than two depending on the individual. It is a matter
of generating the correct mental attitude which
sometimes is picked up subconsciously by the
patient.
Somebody that has the capability to change and match
other people's frequencies is a much better
assistant than somebody that works on a very narrow
spectrum of frequencies.
Russ: so that would give me an idea of what to look
for in such a thing.
Kornas: yes, somebody that can operate on many
frequencies.
Russ: would this be an empathic person?
Kornas: yes, somebody with empathic capabilities and
healing also.
Russ: empathic and healing.
Kornas: yes.
Russ: okay. Would a telepathic communication be
necessary at that point?
Kornas: depending on the extent of the ailment.
Also, something that would be useful would be to
generate a nice environment with various types of
relaxing music.
Russ: hmmm.
Kornas: which would also help the assistant and the
patient. Nice, soothing music that both find
soothing. Not necessarily this loud, raucous music
that some enjoy, but music that is nice and peaceful
and relaxing.
Russ: so like maybe a tape of some ocean waves
breaking on the shore.
Kornas: yes, possibly but with music as well.
Russ: oh, so background music.
Kornas: yes. But in a nice, nice environment as
well.
Russ: and lighting, would it be lowered?
Kornas: yes, lower lighting levels.
Russ: okay. How about such as say candles, too low?
Kornas: yes, too low and again the problem with
radiation.
Russ: true. Radiation with candles?
Kornas: yes. A quick attempt at humor. Sometime down
the road in the future, Tia is in.........
SIDE
ONE ENDS
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SIDE TWO
(Karra takes over for her boss
on side two)
Karra: yeah, we monitored that the body is giving
up is giving off fluids slightly.
Russ: oh good.
Karra: sweating.
Russ: ahh, yes. Well thank you very much for your
assistance today in the building of our walkway.
Karra: uh-huh.
Russ: it's looking good.
Karra: it's a little bit hard to work with the
channeler, he's very stubborn.
(Russ laughs)
Karra: you know?
Russ: I've never noticed.
Karra: oh, okay. He guards his mental frequencies
very carefully.
Russ: well, he doesn't know you like I know you.
Karra: ahh.
Russ: ahhh. Okay, let's talk about Erica and the
healing upon a certain shoulder this evening.
(Karra tsks)
Russ: critique or how did it go?
Karra: well, okay.......
Russ okay.
Karra: you were massaging, correct?
Russ: uh-huh.
Karra: maybe a little bit deeper.
Russ: hmmm.
Karra: deeper penetration.
Russ: okay.
Karra: but not too deep so you don't want to
inflict pain.
Russ: right. Now when I was working on her......
Karra: uh-huh.
Russ: she first complained that she was having
problems with her shoulder.
Karra: yes.
Russ: so I closed my eyes and started working on
her shoulder on a massage at first...
Karra: uh-huh.
Russ: and, as I worked on the back, I realized
that I could almost see the fact that the pain was
in the back of the shoulder.
Karra: uh-huh.
Russ: I came around to the front and just as I
came through to the forward part of it she says,
"yeah, that's where the pain was".
Karra: uh-huh.
Russ: and at that point I sent through energy in a
kind of a general infusion you might say.
Karra: yeah.
Russ: and from there her shoulder increased much
more in its flexibility and less of the pain.
Karra: uh-huh. You see sometimes pain is a
manifestation in a different part of the body of
where the ailment is.
Russ: hmmm.
Karra: you see, somebody hurts their lower back,
they tend to be more upright and put more pressure
on their shoulders which gives the appearance of
that's where the problem is. Yeah, "my shoulder
hurts" which in actual fact the damage is actually
somewhere else within that general vicinity.
Russ: hmmm.
Karra: see, smart, aren't I?
Russ: you are smart.
Karra: uh-huh.
Russ: no, she said she hit her shoulders.
Karra: yeah, but more than likely that's where the
damage was .
Russ: uh-huh, okay. Now, working with Calvin the
other night.
(One of the house cats)
Karra: uh-huh.
Russ: okay, thank you for the tip on the energy.
Karra: uh-huh.
Russ: and I noticed quite a difference in the use
of energies there than when we worked on Mark's
knee.
Karra: yeah. You have to tune into a different
frequency and also that Calvin is of a different
species also.
Russ: true, but at the same time, the energy I
worked with on Mark's knee was not a physical
energy as such......
Karra: uh-huh.
Russ: it was more a mental energy.
Karra: yes.
Russ: now the energy I worked with when I worked
on Calvin was strictly physical.
Karra: uh-huh.
Russ: the energy came out pulsing out of the
crystal.
Karra: uh-huh.
Russ: for some reason that felt more like the way
it should have been with the energy I used on his
knee.
Karra: we are working you up to better levels of
using crystals.
Russ: oh, I see. Okay, and the use of that energy
then, is this something that is a better form of
energy?
(We hear a few taps on the tape left in by the
engineers)
Karra: yes it is. Why is your recording instrument
making a tapping sound?
Russ: cheap recorder.
Karra: oh. I was wondering if it wasn't working
properly.
(We hear some work done on the tape recorder)
Karra: that sounds better.
Russ: it decided to work.
Karra: oh well, not to worry.
Russ: that works better.
Karra: ahh.
Russ: all right, now then, what I want to work on
right now is in fact that same energy level.....
Karra: uh-huh.
Russ: or that kind of energy because that's what
I'll be working on this evening as far as
questions.
Karra: okay.
Russ: now then, as a youngster laying in bed, I
used to put my arm up and then practice
manifesting energy to keep that arm up.
Karra: yes, applying opposite energy to keep it in
place.
Russ: right.
Karra: uh-huh.
Russ: happened to me thanks to you of course.
Karra: ahh.
Russ: but now that was the key...
Karra: uh-huh.
Russ: to finding the correct form of energy to
use.
Karra: yeah.
Russ: due to the fact that now I understand what
energy it was that I played with..........
Karra: uh-huh.
Russ: that now I can take as a serious matter.
Karra: yeah.
Russ: all right. Now then, what is this energy I'm
using and why it's different from what I've used
before.
Karra: it is the collected energy. It is the
energy that everything produces......
Russ: the force.
Karra: yes, you could say that. Let me see if I
can do this right as "it is the force that
surrounds us. You, me, the tree, that rock there.
Luminous beings, not this crude stuff".
(That brings out lots of laughter)
Karra: did I do good?
Russ: you did great.
Karra: I didn't sound like Jabba the Hutt though,
did I?
Russ: no, but luckily you sounded a little bit
more like Yoda.
Karra: Yoda? Oh, sorry.
(Now the laughter gets louder)
Karra: I was confusing Jabba the Hutt with Yoda.
Russ: I know. I think Jabba wouldn't do much work
with energy.
Karra: yes. Yes, true.
Russ: okay, now then, this energy then......
Karra: uh-huh.
Russ: what part of it do I contribute and how is
it that I'm able to then channel into that?
Karra: you supply the life energy.....
Russ: uh-huh.
Karra: the life force that you generate as well as
mental energy which is blended naturally.
Russ: right.
Karra: you supply the bulk of the energy which
attracts other types of energy.
Russ: I don't understand. Okay, I'm directing or
it's drawing from me physical and mental energy
that I produce.
Karra: yes and that attracts the energies that
surround you. The energies of other beings that
are there for the use for the collecting, the
energy of all living beings.
Russ: so this energy in essence is a sentient form
of energy.
Karra: no, it is just crude energy that is
attracted to your energy and everybody else's
energy. But it is also generated by them.
Everything generates two types of energy. The
energy force that surrounds it or surrounds them
like this feline. There is an energy force that
surrounds her that is hers but also she generates
energy which is free for the taking.
Russ: how do you discern between the two or are
they the same thing?
Karra: they're basically the same thing as the
other one, it's just excess energy.
Russ: so when a person's feeling drained of
energy, that means that that excess has been used
and now it's being drawn upon the energy that
surrounds it.
Karra: correct.
Russ: so how do you use the energy that is in
excess and not the energy that surrounds them? How
do you tell the difference of when you've gone too
far?
Karra: because you'll start to feel a lack of
energy, you'll start to feel tired.
Russ: what if you using somebody else's?
Karra: they will start to feel tired. You could
say that you become a vampire.
Russ: ahh, I see. There's no set amount of energy
that is released.
Karra: yes, it is literally the excess energy.
Sometimes it can be a lot and sometimes it can be
a little.
Russ: ohhh. So you can tell the difference by how
say like hyper a person is?
Karra: uh-huh. Somebody such as the channeler
which can be very hyper gives off a lot of energy
which is actually noticeable to some people.
Russ: ohh.
Karra: some people do complain of excess energy.
Russ: so is it helpful to relieve them of that
excess energy at that point?
Karra: sometimes yes because when somebody is
hyper, I believe the channeler can be hyper for
three to four days at a time and then loses all
energy and needs a long period of time to recover.
If you were to siphon off some of that energy,
then his lack of energy wouldn't be as noticeable
to him and he would be able to recover quicker.
Russ: now what you do with the energy once you've
siphoned it off? Direct it?
Karra: what do you want to do with it?
Russ: good question.
Karra: correct. Do you yourself want to be hyper?
It's useful sometimes.
Russ: I suppose so.
Karra: perhaps you could siphon it off to go
farsighting with?
Russ: you're so quick.
Karra: very thoughtful sometimes.
Russ: okay, I understand. Now can you store this
energy then?
Karra: only for limited time.
Russ: that's what I thought. There's not like a
battery you can toss it into.......
Karra: no.
Russ: for a length of period. So you pull it and
go.
Karra: yeah.
Russ: tricky timing.
Karra: uh-huh. I believe we've discussed this in
the past if my memory's correct.
Russ: it always is.
Karra: thank you.
Russ: okay.......
Karra: when you ninety years you not be so sharp.
Russ: let's hope so. You'll be rejuvenated then.
Karra: uh-huh.
Russ: now then, working with this energy is a new
theory for me.
Karra: uh-huh.
Russ: so practicing with it would be impractical
for now.
Karra: no, it would be useful, it would be fun. We
could have lots of laughing and giggling.
Russ: okay. I noticed this morning during the
short period I was up there.....
Karra: uh-huh.
Russ: that you gave me the tip on using that form
of farsighting.
Karra: yeah.
Russ: and so this is actually forming a body of
astral matter out of that energy.
Karra: uh-huh.
Russ: okay so, instead of using my typical astral
body which is somewhat insubstantial except in
certain periods where I can get a little bit more
solid.........
Karra: uh-huh.
Russ:. by using this new form of energy.......
Karra: uh-huh.
Russ: I can develop a better astral body?
Karra: yeah and you can suck in more energy
because you will have more energy. So therefore
you'll be able to go solid for longer a period of
time and we'll be able to please each other for a
longer period of time.
Russ: that's true. Now this is the key in that
whereby sucking up more energy is now sucking up
more of this particular energy.
Karra: yeah.
Less: isn't it?
Karra: uh-huh.
Russ: okay.
Karra: some people do it subconsciously without
realizing it. People of exceptional capabilities
do.
Russ: right. See, I've been trying to force a
mythical kind of energy into me when actually all
of it was right there.
Karra: uh-huh. But you're learning, that's the
most important thing. Those people that do it
subconsciously sometimes don't learn.
Russ: ohh.
Karra: see, because they don't need to learn it
but it is useful to learn just in case you lose
the capability.
Russ: that's true.
Karra: uh-huh.
Russ: okay.
Karra: okay, plans for this evening when you get
up here.
Russ: okay.
Karra: we will go down and you can talk to the
kittens whilst I sit by on the sidelines and
monitor and talk to Tia when she wakes up.
Russ: okay. How am I going to talk to Tia if she's
asleep?
Karra: I'll simply wait until she wakes up.
Russ: oh, I see.
Karra: but she is sedated at the moment so the
kittens may be awake but confused by the lack of
mental input from their mother.
Russ: okay, well I'll practice with the same kind
of energy to get there.
Karra: uh-huh.
Russ: okay, well good, you can monitor me at the
same time.
Karra: okay. I'll talk to Tia and nod to you.
Piece of cake, easy as cake, Pie, 3.1427.
Russ: oh God, worst time having a genius for a
girlfriend.....bonding....
Karra: mistress, bonding partner, partner mate,
call me what you want to but don't call me ugly.
Russ: never.
Karra: and I'll call you in the morning. Okay, I
suppose I better hand back over to little sis.
Russ: okay darling.
Karra: unfortunately we won't have Korton or Omal
as they're still working on other projects.
Russ: again?
Karra: yeah, but I think it might be the same one.
They were in a council meeting....
Russ: uh-huh.
Karra: I think this is a different kind of
meeting. They are pretty busy at the moment.
Russ: this must be bugging the hell out of them.
Karra: hmmm.
Russ: not beingn able to get to their usual
sessions and having to work and work and work?
Karra: yeah, maybe it is a respite for them
temporarily but I think not. Okay, we'll have back
to little sis.
Russ: all right, and I'll see you in a little
while.
Karra: and she is another good example of somebody
having excess energy.
Russ: I'll drain some from her.
Karra: you can try I suppose. Okay.....
Russ: alright sweetheart, I'll see you in a little
while up there.
(Kiri comes back to channel
following her big sister)
Kiri: excess energy, huh!!
Russ: I know. Okay, coercion.
Kiri: zoom.
Russ: zoom yourself, we're going to work on
coercion this evening.
Kiri: oh goody.
Russ: coercion and energy.....
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: now, as I'm sure you were monitoring the
last conversation with your darling sister.....
Kiri: actually, I was feeding.
Russ: oh. Want me to fill you in?
Kiri: no, I can figure out....
Russ: okay.
Kiri: I'm a smart girl too you know.
Russ: I know.
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: okay, the energy that we're dealing with is,
let's call it the force.
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: which defines it from other energies we've
used before.
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: okay, this being a more controllable and yet
more tangible form of energy......
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: is one of the keys to proper coercion I
assume.
Kiri: yes.
Russ: okay.
Kiri: because you are connecting with the other
person's energy field and manipulating it which in
turn manipulates them because you have to get into
the mind to manipulate their energy.
Russ: correct.
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: now, this force......
Kiri: yes.
Russ: is a very powerful form of energy.......
Kiri: yes, very raw and potent as well I believe.
Russ: and so the term that comes up or the phrases
from a famous story in which it was said that
"power corrupts, absolute power corrupts
absolutely".
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: so therefore it's not the use of the energy
that's important or how it's not being able to use
it but how it is used.....
Kiri: yes.
Russ: and not abused.
Kiri: correct. Look on time, look very
serious......
Russ: uh-huh, very serious.
Kiri: uh-huh and launching.
Russ: now, I'm giving you the fact of the
reasoning here....
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: that you know the story of Maxxus and Naxxus
I take it?
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: that Naxxus was not such a bad guy after
all.
Kiri: nooo.
Russ: in fact he'd probably be quite a suave
charmer.
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: but, that being able to control this raw
power....
Kiri: he was corrupted presumably. I'm only saying
presumably because I don't really know that, well,
I know the story of the two brothers.
Russ: I'm pretty sure you're right on the mark
there.
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: but even after being corrupted, he'd still
be a pretty suave, charming kinda guy.
Kiri: oh yeah. You cannot change somebody totally.
Russ: right. So, the trick now is to be able to
channel the energy without it channeling you.
Kiri: correct.
Russ: okay, what is the best way to avoid that?
Kiri: hmmm, tricky, tricky.
Russ: I knew you'd like that one.
Kiri: you use it in small and measured amounts to
start off with.
Russ: hmm. Well, do you ever have that problem?
Kiri: hmmm, sometimes. Especially when I'm after
something I really desire.......
Russ: correct.
Kiri: or someone I really desire.
Russ: right, now, there's the problem.
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: how to spank yourself.
Kiri: what you do is you don't use it when you
really desire something until you can learn to
control it. Until you remember to reason things
out.
Russ: reason things out?
Kiri: yes, reason when you're coercing somebody.
You reason out why you're coercing them and what
line you wish to take them and are your morals
correct, huh?
Russ: my morals?
(He scoffs)
Kiri: I use it as a....
Russ: explanatory.
Kiri: yes.
Russ: well, this evening, you were practicing the
use of this force....
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: on coercion.
Kiri: yes.
Russ: the results were, to say the least,
dramatic.
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: but I'm afraid that the use of this energy,
because of its dramatic effects, can
create..........what's the best word I'm looking
for here? Problems which could be permanent.
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: such as attachments.
Kiri: yes. Presumably you're discussing some young
lady that has a hot body.
Russ: yeah. Okay.....
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: now, she's perfect for practicing because
she's very malleable.....
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: but at the same time I don't want to work on
her for a permanent attachment.
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: how to practice without the attachment?
Kiri: look at your motives first of all, look at
your desires.
Russ: pretty third dimensional.
Kiri: I didn't say that.
Russ: well I did. But at the same time, it's good
practice.....
Kiri: yeah.
Russ: but tone it down.
Kiri: uh-huh, think about your motives. Ohhhhh,
somebody's just showed up.
Russ: oh, who?
Kiri: ahhh, wait and see, wait and see.
Russ: my patience takes control.
Kiri: okay.
Russ: which is the whole problem with this entire
situation we're discussing.
Kiri: exactly, good example.
Russ: perfect.
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: patience.
Kiri: yes. Remember a saying that is very useful,
everything comes to he who waits.
Russ: okay.
Kiri: use it when you start to coerce somebody,
think of that first of all.
Russ: oh.
Kiri: patience comes to he or she who waits.
Russ: ahh.
Kiri: now, I'm going to hand over briefly because
the person who just showed up says he can't stay
too long. So......
Russ: you're out?
Kiri: yes.
Russ: okay, I'll be over at Tia's in a little
while.
Kiri: okay, well I'm going off for a walk. Walk in
the woods and I'm wearing my toga and.....
Russ: you're not traveling alone I hope?
Kiri: sorry?
Russ: you're not traveling alone I hope.
Kiri: no, just me and the channeler.
Russ: ahh.
Kiri: okay, I might be back but we'll see.
Russ: have a lovely walk in the woods.
Kiri: okay, I'm out of here.
(Wing Commander Taal makes a
surprise appearance)
Taal: guess who?
Russ: Taal.....
Taal: yes.
Russ: how's it going?
Taal: we are well.......
Russ: excellent.
Taal: and very happy.
Russ: oh, very happy to hear you.
Taal: thank you.
Russ: good.
Taal: I have friend with me.
Russ: oh, your young lady?
Taal: yes.
Russ: all right.
Taal: she has been requested as my wing lady.
Russ: very proper.
Taal: yes.
Russ: good.
Taal: R&R?
Russ: all right.
Taal: seven more days then back to work.
Russ: back to the grind.
Taal: no, not grind, enjoy.
Russ: well that's the fun part.
Taal: yes.
Russ: down here it's a grind. No, we enjoy our
work usually.
Taal: sorry, I have been imbibing.
Russ: oh, that's all right, I'm glad you could
make it over here.
Taal: enjoying myself.
Russ: all right, good to hear it.
Taal: yes.
Russ: but so where to next, for this next week?
Taal: sunning myself.
Russ: ohh.
Taal: maybe take trip home.
Russ: hmm.
Taal: two day trip there, two day back, take
girlfriend with me.
Russ: all right. Are your parents or your family
back there?
Taal: maybe. We are getting very close.
Russ: excellent.
Taal: not excellent.
Russ: oh.
Taal: because of command chain.
Russ: ohh yeah, I see.
Taal: yes, that is little problem. Maybe she do
short tour with me and then assigned new wing
leader.
Russ: hmm.
Taal: maybe that better.
Russ: are you close telepathy wise?
Taal: close everything.
Russ: ahhh, maybe that might be advantageous to
your missions.
Taal: hmmm, possibly.
Russ: yeah, you have to kind of weigh the good
with the bad....
Taal: correct.
Russ: and see what comes up.
Taal: uh-huh.
Russ: good luck no matter what happens there.
Taal: maybe little Taal's?
(Russ bursts out laughing)
Russ: now that would be really good.
Taal: yes, I can say things like because she talks
with Kiri.
Russ: ahh, excellent.
Taal: yes, so she is out of earshot.
Russ: well good. I'm looking forward to that
happening. I want to be to the bachelor party I
hope.
Taal: what is?
Russ: it's a party you have before you become
bonded.
Taal: ahh, like mess in crash.
Russ: right, right, and all the guys get together
and there's no women there.
TalKiri: ahh, yes, understand.
Russ: and you all get drunk until you can't stand
up anymore.
Taal: yes, like mess in crash.
Russ: right, right, that's it.
Taal: uh-huh.
Russ: good, I'm hoping for the best here.
Taal: we will see. In past we did discuss before
she transferred to different base.
Russ: uh-huh.
Taal: she has done shorter tours due to the fact
of leave of absence due to young daughters?
Russ: uh-huh.
Taal: babies.
Russ: ahh.
Taal: that is why she now returns back to her home
base, her base of origin.
Russ: hmmm.
Taal: young daughters now attending educational
facility to become pilot also, pilots also.
Russ: ahh, wow, that's pretty important.
Taal: daughters not mine.
Russ: still, it's something.
Taal: yes. Well, I have to go now?
Russ: well thank you, wish your lady my best
and.....
Taal: I will do so. We are going to be pulled to
relax before we start vacation part two.
Russ: well, have a wonderful time.
Taal: yes, she will wear new swimsuit borrowed
from Karra?
Russ: oh, from my lady.
Taal: yes. Karra offered swimsuit.
Russ: oh, she's going to look great, I'm sure of
it.
Taal: yes.
Russ: I know what Karra looks like in it.
Taal: little bigger in build.
Russ: well, that should just fill out fine then.
Taal: yes. See you soon, maybe.
Russ: okay, well we'll look forward to it. Have
fun.
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