Archivist Notes: September's channeling session starts off with an unusually large number of speakers on side one and only two speakers on side two. How that happened is that each speaker came through Mark twice to answer questions and provide their observations. The first speaker of the night was Tia who I request assistance from on in my astral travel trips to the base more solid. She had been taking me out to Sirius to build up my stamina the results were starting to show. She's reminded of her jealous streak we discussed in last month's channeling session regarding a guest down here named Bethany. Karra speaks next and I have to apologize for waking her up during a trip very early in their morning. She keeps it short so Omal comes on and he dissects my astral travel trip to the base before we get into the ships from the base and other races that had crashed on the planet. It's very informative information on places he describes has had ships around the world. One he confirms is a ship in Palos Verdes that had crashed long ago and was taken away for testing. A teacher of mine saw part of that test long before we had met. He lets me know that my next astral traveling session would Tia would be to Alpha Centauri. A long way from Sirius but a good stamina test. Tia comes back after that and we discuss a temporary houseguest of ours and her potential to help the group. She then makes way for Karra who is in full healer mode. We review my attempts to help and injury of hers and I get great advice on how to do it better in the future. Other advice is on staying solid when I'm up there so we go over some of the techniques I had been trying. Her sister then takes her place and Kiri has a decision to make as to whether she will be able to attend the party to be held after her child is born. What she reveals is that little one in her womb has been asking a lot of questions about the world outside she's been answering. It makes one wonder if that would be something effective down here someday. The tape ends and we move on to the next side.

Side two has Kiri continuing as speaker though now she gets into a discussion on her genetic studies she's been doing, some on plants and some soon to be on mice. We find that plant genes are easier to work with than animal genes and it leads to a suggestion that they invite the base geneticist to join us for future talks. As a result, we would have excellent conversations on genetics with Kornas once he was able to channel. Kiri then revealed something that would come to pass later on and that was that she wanted to be bonded to Mark as Tia was. One thing that should be explained is that the bonding ceremony discussed in a sacred commitment to the other person that is deeper than marriage. It includes the lives before and lives to come in the bonding. Mark would bond with Kiri once they discovered that Mark, Kiri, and Tia were triple souls. We also learn that a secretary had come to take notes and it is then we are introduced to Luna who would be a speaker to channeling sessions later. What's surprising is she isn't from Sirius but from another planet closer to Omal and Korton's home planet but in a different dimension. She lays to make room for Omal who then uses up the rest of the tape to give us a huge learning night. Omal reminds me of a recent astral trip I made to the base where I had gotten into a theological discussion with Korton. It was a discussion I would lose but found out that it was actually Ashtar taking on the aspect of Korton which ended up shocking the heck out of me. We move on to negative feedback loops and my concerns I wasn't doing them right. Omal provides some helpful information that would prove correct when it was tried. Those were designed to help me in my astral travel to go solid along with a crystal we talked about that seems to have self healed. We should explain that the title of this session, A Temporary Spiritual Rest, is Omal's term for when we are no longer alive. She also explained that the bat people discussed are a race of people Mark had found while astral traveling throughout our galaxy. They were at war with another race and we have been monitoring how it was going. It provided an important learning experience for both Mark and myself. We end things by going over the schedule of lessons that will be taking place in the future.

   
In love, light, and wisdom as one,
Russ and Karra                                     

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SIDE ONE


(Tia gets the session started)



Tia: of course I'm alive. I wouldn't have it any other way, would I?

Russ: no, neither would we.

Tia: okay......

Russ: okay.

Tia: so........hang on, let's see if I can do this. So, what do you want to know, huh?

(Russ starts laughing)

Russ: that was fun last night.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: I had a most enjoyable time.

Tia: yeah.

Russ: how was everything on your end?

Tia: oh, apart from punctuality?

Russ: ahh well, punctuality, yeah.

Tia: yeah, that does help. You needed your dormancy to create more energy, hmm?

Russ: I wouldn't have actually made it off of Hades Base otherwise I don't think.

Tia: I know.

Russ: but I hated to keep you waiting. I just hoped somebody was monitoring so you knew what was going on.

Tia: well I was kind of.........my entertainments that I have.

Russ: oh good.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: so you weren't bored?

Tia: no.

Russ: okay.

Tia: actually, I should've gotten me some work instead of working whilst I was tired this afternoon. Never mind.

Russ: oh well. So how's everything going Tia?

Tia: oh fine, fine, fine, fine, fine.

Russ: oh good.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: any pointers for last night?

Tia: yes, just a little is to relax more, not to be so tense when you sit down and have tea and scones.

Russ: well, with Kiri glaring at me in her coercive modes that could melt my brain to Jell-O, I don't have much choice.

Tia: well that goes back to the first point, punctuality.

(Russ laughs)

Russ: that's true.

Tia: I wonder what she was dreaming about?

Russ: she didn't like being woken from it whatever it was.

Tia: hmm. She's looking good, isn't she?

Russ: she is, yes. I like that pink dress on her last night, very nice.

Tia: yeah. It helps for me to be aware when she's wearing it, you know?

Russ: yeah.

Tia: she tells me those things.

Russ: now that I know, I'll be aware of things more often there too. Of course it wasn't hard to tell last night.

Tia: no.

Russ: if looks could kill.

Tia: they probably will. In games without frontiers.......

Russ: a world without tears.

Tia: okay, so, questions.

Russ: yes.

Tia: hmmm?

Russ: for some reason one thing I did kind of blank out on a little bit was our arrival onto the planetary, to the planet.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: I don't remember going into a rotational spin and then reversing it.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: how did we get into that?

Tia: well, I supplied a little bit of energy, gave a little bit of a shove which comes from supplying the energy to the right portion of you which bent you into the orbit and then when it was time to reverse, I kind of, to put it politely, kicked you in the head to kick you back.

Russ: thank you, I guess.

Tia: well it is a figure of speech, kicking you in the head.

Russ: right.

Tia: huh?

Russ: a figure of speech.

Tia: yeah.

Russ: because at that point I found myself in my little white plane going.

Tia: sputter, sputter, sputter.

Russ: down in flames.

Tia: yes, something like that.

Russ: something like that.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: I was little worried that you might think I had gone off on the deep end there.

Tia: nah, wouldn't let you.

Russ: ahh, thank you.

Tia: how would I tell Mark what happened, huh?

Russ: that's true.

Tia: that I was flagrant in my responsibility? Uh-uh.

Russ: that wouldn't happen.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: but what did you do while I was talking to the guys? It was like you were wandering around but.........

Tia: well I have other matters on my mind.

Russ: well you certainly caused quite a stir among the folks down there. Haven't seen beautiful woman in a or something.

Tia: haven't seen them so short I should imagine.

Russ: I suppose.

Tia: must have thought that I was a little girl. To be thought of as a little girl again?

Russ: well that's good. I was worried you might take it offensively.

Tia: nooo. Maybe a few years ago I would've but now that I realize that small things come in nice packages.

Russ: can't argue with that.

Tia: no.

Russ: well good, so it worked out.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: okay.

Tia: your feline domesticus apparently is quiet.

Russ: he wasn't a few minutes ago. He was tearing the place to pieces. I almost brought him up the other night as a matter of fact.

Tia: you should have.

Russ: he didn't want to stay though.

Tia: ahh.

Russ: next time though. So what else is going on?

Tia: well, apart from me going off for entertainment in a little while.

Russ: okay.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: and when is our next session?

Tia: same time, same place.

Russ: next Tuesday.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: okay. If I'm running a little late you'll know why.

Tia: okay.

Russ: I'll try to be on time.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: so we'll assume we're shooting for twelve last time, we'll shoot for about the same time next week.

Tia: okay and if not I shall pound on your shields.

Russ: thank you.

Tia: I shall drill a hole through them and I shall go, "hey, Buster".

Russ: well that will wake me up. "Well, what?"

Tia: yeah, I'll get Kara to help.

Russ: oh oh.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, that will definitely get me on my feet.

Tia: yeah, uh-huh.

Russ: good, I look forward to next Tuesday at the same place we're going to?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: I'll find all about Sirius before we're done with this.

Tia: yeah.

Russ: I'll know it like the back of my hands.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: I'll be like a sightseeing tour guide.

Tia: yeah, you'll be able to give other people a tour.

Russ: "and here on our right, the famous Sirius penitentiary.

Tia: uh-huh. Most advanced in its quadrant.

Russ: that was fun though. I like Tia's scones. It was quite good tea actually.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: Irish again?

Tia: of course.

Russ: of course.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: it was delicious.

Tia: okay, now I'm going to go off and get some whipped cream.

Russ: okay.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: I won't ask why.

Tia: would I tell you?

Russ: no, of course not.

Tia: no.

Russ: games people play.

Tia: yes, games. It's fun.

Russ: well I'll go find one for Karra sometime.

Tia: what, whipped cream or games?

Russ: cream and games.

Tia: ohh, can I join in?

Russ: I'm afraid not.

Tia: oh well, never mind. Besides, I get more than my fair share.

Russ: I'm sure you do. I don't want any jealous roommates on my hands.

Tia: jealous, Mark? Maybe a little. But me?

Russ: jealous, Tia? Never.

Tia: no, I want to get jealous.

(Russ laughs outrageously)

Tia: I've never been jealous of anybody. Why do you laugh?

Russ: Mark and I were going over that this evening with your experience with Bethany.

Tia: oh yes.

Russ: and the time you weren't jealous.

Tia: uh-huh. I wasn't jealous of Bethany, I was furious.

Russ: uh-huh, it's a big difference.

Tia: uh-huh. Spending all his time with a strange young lady who I got to know and like. The door and Kiri refers to her as the lunch girl.

Russ: the lunch girl?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: well hopefully the lunch girl will come back.

Tia: uh-huh. Bethany.

Russ: absolutely. Well go have fun with your games.

Tia: oh yeah.

Russ: I'll get some more rest period down here.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: farewell Tia.

Tia: trying to get rid of me, huh?

Russ: never.

Tia: okay.

Russ: here we go, feline domesticus.

Tia: meow. Hey, pussycat, where have you been?

(Tia tells the poem.)

Tia: what have you done to your tail?

Russ: he got it caught in something before I got him.

Tia: several sort of's.

Russ: seems like maybe a door got slammed on him.

Tia: more than once.

Russ: poor baby got caught. Oh well, he found a good home with me.

Tia: oh yeah.

Russ: never had to worry about doors since.

Tia: always been very careful of them. Nice pussycat. Nice pussycat, you do don't you? Well.......

Russ: farewell Tia.

Tia: yeah. And Ashtar did a good job, I can move things easier.

Russ: all right.

Tia: still a workout for me.

Russ: well, being as you have more success than ever before.

Tia: uh-huh. I wonder if I can do that trick again. Okay, hand eye coordination, colors down a little bit and oh, almost.

Russ: close, very close.

Tia: a lot better. Okay, up down, possibly look this way and, missed by a mile. Oh, never mind.

Russ: oh well.

Tia: I'm going off to have my brains sorted out.

Russ: well, good luck with it. We'll see you again soon.

Tia: okay, see you later Russ.

Russ: bye-bye love.

---

(Karra comes on for her first time as channel)


Karra: stand back up.

Russ: it's good exercise.

Karra: okay, exercise, stand up.

Russ: all right, up we go.

Karra: okay, stick your arms out.

Russ: right, arms out.

Karra: and twist. Now twist back. And again, and again. Left right, left right. Okay, sit down.

Russ: you're so funny.

Karra: so......

Russ: so.

Karra: what time do you call dropping by?

Russ: four in the morning, a normal, average time. I expect every up and awake and waiting for me.

Karra: hmmm.

Russ: Klarra was.

Karra: no she wasn't, she heard you.

Russ: well she was after I got there.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: the place is all dark and gloomy except for her and she was all bright and kinda dull actually.

Karra: yes, being woken up out of her sleep does tend to wake me up as well. Okay, so do you have any questions for me?

Russ: seems like I'm getting better with my farsighting as far as coming back. I don't feel as bad as I used to.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: is that because of the practice I'm getting?

Karra: yeah.

Russ: ahh. Feels like I've been thrown through a food processor and tossed back out.

Karra: yeah, blended up and poured out rather gently.

Russ: absolutely.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: no, it was a good trip though.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: wasn't sure you heard.

Karra: yeah. I was told all about it by little sis. Even to the fact of waking her up. She needs her beauty sleep you know.

Russ: she doesn't need anything of the sort. She's beautiful as she is.

Karra: and I'm not?

Russ: well yeah but you get plenty of beauty sleep.

Karra: think so?

Russ: well I know so, you're gorgeous.

Karra: with a 4 1/2 month old little hooligan.

Russ: who got plenty.......of well, slightly plenty of sleep last night.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: well if I knew she was going to wake you up I would've stayed for longer.

Karra: so, when are you going to drop by and see me next?

Russ: well, how about in a little while?

Karra: okay, you got any oil?

Russ: no, just hope you do.

Karra: okay, I've got some.

Russ: okay.

Karra: and I'll put Klarra into the other room.

Russ: okay.

Karra: and then keep her nice and dormant.

Russ: alrighty.

Karra: and then we can get down to some massaging and see if we can get you to go solid.

Russ: good.

Karra: hmmm?

Russ: I'll be looking forward to it.

Karra: okay, well, I'll go and put on the coffee.

Russ: alrighty.

Karra: and well, see you in a few minutes?

Russ: see you in a few minutes Karra.

Karra: and I'll put on those short jeans or do you want me to wear something slightly different?

Russ: do you have any kimonos handy?

Karra: only short ones.

Russ: that'll do fine.

Karra: very short ones.

Russ: perfect.

Karra: in fact they were Tia's so that will give you a rough idea how short they are.

Russ: wow, that short.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, I'll brave it.

Karra: okay.

Russ: right..

Karra: well......

Russ: I'll see you in a few minutes.

Karra: okay.

Russ: bye love.

---

(Omal comes on for his first time speaking)



Russ: Mark forgot to turn the pause off.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: right, it is now.

Omal: okay.

Russ: which is just as good for Tia since she was making comments she didn't want recorded anyway.

Omal: if she didn't want them recorded, she wouldn't have said them, would she?

Russ: hard to say. She might've forgot.

Omal: she is back but we shall continue with our discussion. She is getting back on to her hotseat as it were. Anyway.....

Russ: okay, where were we? Oh yeah, the projection today.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: correct. Okay......

Omal: your mood was reflected by it?

Russ: yeah.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: the projection when I went farsighting was such that I feel like I reached a new point today than I have in previous sessions. Or by for example where an outside influence, in this case being a telephone ring.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: it was so far away from my consciousness, it had actually been trued up.....

Omal: yep.

Russ: to where I could actually hear it and even then it was kind of.....

Omal: very faint.

Russ: yeah, very faint compared to it was sitting right next to me, it should've been much more.......

Omal: audible.

Russ: audible, right.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: the new technique I used, I don't know if I could account for it but it seemed to be a change.

Omal: everything helps. You are refining your techniques to a much more beneficial mode.

Russ: right. What I learned is never let my head rest on anything.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: that just puts me out.

Omal: okay.

Russ: that's the other question I got. Why's it so easy for me to go to sleep when farsighting. Anybody else far side I know. I drop off like a rock in a second without even wanting to.

Omal: a rock?

Russ: well, you know. Quiet and silent like a rock because I'm sleeping.

Omal: uh-huh. We would have to analyze more information to come up with the correct answer on that.

Russ: okay, I just want to know if I'm abnormal or something.

Omal: we don't know, we will look into the issue.

Russ: okay.

Omal: and next question.

Russ: all right. The other thing that I used today......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: was I stared into the crystal.......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: while doing my count, the breathing count. And it seemed that I could see the trip lined up in the crystal.

Omal: yeah, uh-huh.

Russ: it was kind of a earth to Hades Base without the earth part included.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: now what was happening there?

Omal: that was connecting with the program you had built into the crystal and lining it up.

Russ: hmm, okay.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: because it's not that the crystal becomes Mars, Mars is encased in the crystal, right?

Omal: correct.

Russ: okay. If you want, we can get into Mark's questions now.

Omal: if you wish.

Russ: yeah, I'm kind of out of questions as far as you answered most of them.

Omal: okay.

Russ: Mark's questions have to do to start off with the blue guys......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: the pilots. Now the question is have they ever........his first one is have they ever crashed in Arizona?

Omal: not in Arizona. They have crashed in other parts of your planet.

Russ: hmmm, was there anything taken by our government say that would show it was the blue guys?

Omal: the last accident that they had was due to........how would you describe it? Amusing themselves.

Russ: oh.

Omal: that was about 157 of your years ago?

Russ: that wouldn't be in Russia, would it?

Omal: you're thinking of the meteor strike.

Russ: right.

Omal: no.

Russ: oh.

Omal: that was not their fault.

Russ: where was it a crashed?

Omal: the most recent one, the most recent crash was in the deserts of Africa. In East Africa. Ethiopia I believe?

Russ: right.

Omal: they have crashed in other parts. One occasion I think you might have misinterpreted the question concerning have they ever crashed? They have crashed on your continent a few times. One of their crashes occurred in an area in Southern California.

Russ: Southern California.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: near a place called Palos Verdes?

Omal: that is one site where they crashed.

Russ: and the government found the spaceship, took it to a secret lab on Palos Verdes and then experimented with flying it around at one point until they brought it back to the government installation there.

Omal: that was a old vehicle that had been crashed for some time.

Russ: hmmm.

Omal: it was unfortunate that it was discovered before rescue procedures could occur.

Russ: so normally rescue procedures happen where the crash isn't recovered?

Omal: correct. Normally we recover, or they recover, the necessary equipment but sometimes it is in such an awkward place and because of pilot entertainment, they tend to keep very quiet about it.

Russ: hmm. Because yeah, it's funny that the coincidence behind this is that a former teacher of mine way back when I was way young happened to see the craft being flown.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and that's where I got the information from.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and then what was also strange was at the same time I had a girlfriend that I had to do a regression on but she accidentally traveled to this base.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and saw them working on this crystal that they were refining. It didn't look like a natural earth crystal.

Omal: no.

Russ: so I assume it would be part of a power plant possibly.

Omal: probably.

Russ: okay.

Omal: but we cannot disclose that as you are not quite ready for that kind of information yet.

Russ: no worries.

Omal: okay.

Russ: but just noting how small the world, our worlds are. Okay, now then, in ancient times......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: the Anasazi's, Hopis, and other Indian tribes have pictures of blue people........

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: that they talked to. Would this be the pilots?

Omal: presumably yes, but you would have to ask the pilots as they keep their records concerning their trips to themselves. We do have access to points of interest but reading through their logs would be rather dull and tedious and very hard to even comprehend. If you wish, we can at a later date, possibly the next session when it is convenient for you, get one of the senior blue pilots to attend and channel for you.

Russ: okay, if they're not too busy.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: okay. The question would be then what purpose would they have for discussing this? Would that also be through that channeling session?

Omal: I can speculate personally but speculation is not as good as having the necessary correct data from the group concerned.

Russ: okay.

Omal: my speculation is that it would be for agricultural purposes, technology, mining, but again, you would have to ask them, I'm just speculating.

Russ: okay. Hmm. Yeah, then I'm going to save a couple of these other questions he had for when he can get into that session.

Omal: okay.

Russ: now you discussed the crash that was in Arizona, that wasn't something from Ashtar Command then I would assume?

Omal: they were amusing themselves when the accident occurred. Again, you'd have to ask them and they are very tightlipped on their accidents.

Russ: I don't blame them.

Omal: if you can somehow figure a way of getting them talkative and happy, I'm sure they would be able to talk your ear off about flying and techniques and accidents and anything else......

Russ: catch them at a party.

Omal: maybe flatter them when you get them to channel.

Russ: that would be a great idea.

Omal: something along the lines of, "I hear you're very fine pilot".

Russ: "had any crashes lately?"

Omal: no, that would be the wrong way.

Russ: I'll go in the opposite direction.

Omal: yes.

Russ: okay, good.

Omal: okay, any more questions?

Russ: yeah. One thing I've got is, I read once where there was a trade-off......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: between our government and an alien race.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: as far as exchanging humans for guests, aliens.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: in which the aliens were treated very badly.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: was that happening to you guys at all?

Omal: not with us personally, no.

Russ: oh good.

Omal: we would be wasteful if we did this.

Russ: yeah, I was going to say, this isn't your guy's style.

Omal: no.

Russ: would that be a negative entity that would have done that possibly?

Omal: no, unlikely.

Russ: so it was just another race that was visiting?

Omal: as been said in the past, there are other beings out there that do have an interest in your planet. The majority are peaceful and scientific.

Russ: hmm, okay.

Omal: okay, next question please.

Russ: okay. Now then, are we going to go to, Tia and I, to Sirius B again or are we going to be planning other places to go?

Omal: you will be going to Alpha Centauri next time.

Russ: okay, good.

Omal: I have spoken as it were. Okay, Tia is plugged back in.

Russ: okay.

Omal: I shall hand back to her. She seems just as she was before she left.

(Russ gets done laughing)

Russ: thank you Omal.

Omal: okay.

Russ: enjoy, we'll talk again soon.

---

(Tia is back to get us back to Karra)



Russ: hi Tia. So we're off to Alpha Centauri next, huh?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: all right, good. So what did you think of our house guest?

Tia: interesting young lady.

Russ: isn't she though?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: so hopefully she's going to have some potential here for our future.

Tia: uh-huh. You'll have to excuse me, I'm still you know.

Russ: yeah, I know. Okay, any techniques I can just give hints to her right away?

Tia: well you have all your techniques on tape.

Russ: right.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: you mean for farsighting. Practice coming here in other words?

Tia: yeah, get her to come here.

Russ: okay, I told her how to get to Hades Base.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: but like Omal said, she doesn't have a way from third to fifth.

Tia: no, she doesn't. So she has to start by coming here first.

Russ: okay. Now then, when she went farsighting the other night, what exactly happened? Did anybody catch that up there?

Tia: no unfortunately, I didn't.

Russ: because she ran into a spaceship apparently.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: and was getting some interesting visuals of that.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: and I was wondering if maybe you guys were helping out in some way or another?

Tia: not me personally. I was getting ready for some fun. No, not that sort of fun though I may have some later on.

Russ: no doubt. Okay, well she seems like she's got really a lot of natural talent.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: so obviously there was a purpose for this whole thing.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: I don't want to keep you too much longer here.

Tia: yeah, I'm going to go and take a quick shower and then I'm going to crawl into bed.

Russ: okay, well I'm going to let you get going here then.

Tia: okay, I'm going to take my towell with me.

Russ: good idea.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: all right, well thank you Tia, I look forward to Tuesday again. Have a lot of laughs.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: okay. Farewell then.

Tia: yo.

Russ: yo.

---

(Karra is back for another time as speaker)



Karra: greetings Beanpole.

Russ: well hi Karra.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: how's the arm?

Karra: it feels a little bit better.

Russ: okay. Now then, healing techniques.

Karra: okay.

Russ: all right. What I was working on today, was going into the old wound you might say.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: and working on like microscopically filling in any cracks.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, the problem I was having was once they were filled in, getting them to align to the old bone.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: how could that become a little bit better?

Karra: by a little tighter focus on that point, supplying instead of just energy, hot energy.

Russ: hot energy.

Karra: uh-huh, heating it up. That way it kinda folds itself back together.

Russ: oh, so I fuse the areas I'm working on.

Karra: uh-huh. Don't worry about how much heat you put in there, the more the better.

Russ: okay.

Karra: besides, I can control my body six times better than some people can.

Russ: okay, now I couldn't figure out a way how to deal with the hurt above the bone and the actual muscle and skin tissue.

Omal: well you start off by dealing with the damaged bone and then you work your way up by using heat but only warm heat instead of real hot heat. Apply warm heat and gently knead it like massaging but with warm heat.

Russ: ohhhh, I see. Yeah, that could be a much more easier way of doing it.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: okay. I was little worried about working on our house guest's knee problem......

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: for the same reason. It wasn't the bone that was the problem, it was the muscle, the tendons.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: so if I had wanted to work on that, I would've projected some warm heat in that area?

Karra: yeah.

Russ: and massaged it.

Karra: hold on a second, I haven't done this before. Put your hand above my hand.

Russ: okay.

Karra: feel the heat coming out of it.

Russ: hmm, okay.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: so about that temperature?

Karra: a little bit hotter.

Russ: a little bit hotter?

Karra: yeah. You don't want to do it too hot.

Russ: all right. Okay, I see.

Karra: can you move it back?

Russ: oh sure.

Karra: thank you.

Russ: my pleasure.

Karra: it's a little bit of a workout for me, huh?

Russ: all right.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: but hopefully I think we found someone with a lot of potential here.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: she also does massage so we might have an all around operant.

Karra: oh, uh-huh. That would be good.

Russ: now I haven't told her about you yet.

Karra: you're saying you'll have problems, she'll get jealous?

Russ: afraid so. It will be a little tough to approach her about that subject.

Karra: well I shall keep a low profile when channeling and I'll behave as if you are a friend and not a little bit more.

Russ: okay.

Karra: talking of which, test tubes.

Russ: test tubes?

Karra: yeah, I'm going to throw them away.

Russ: oh good.

Karra: uh-huh. I'm going to deny Kornas content samples.

Russ: good, I want to do this myself.

Karra: I'm sounding a little like Tia, aren't I?

Russ: I guess a little bit like Tia.

Karra: well, I have enough energy to spend for everybody a little bit.

Russ: I suppose it does bleed through a bit.

Karra: uh-huh. It was a little bit amusing, especially for Kiri.

Russ: how is little sis doing?

Karra: oh she's fine. She's looking forward to channeling.

Russ: oh good, I'm looking forward to talking to her. Now, in the projection I did today where I was coming up there, a little bit more solid, a little bit different from the other one to where I had actually what I feel was more there than here.

Karra: uh-huh, I felt it.

Russ: so this is kind of a breakthrough sort of.

Karra: uh-huh. You need to put a little bit more energy I think is what Tia said.

Russ: okay, we did two implosion's.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: that seemed to help.

Karra: yeah.

Russ: okay.

Karra: how about doing a megabig implosion on the second one next time?

Russ: okay.

Karra: just let it go, give it full blast and I'll be there ready to catch you and I'll have Tia on standby outside waiting of course.

Russ: okay.

Karra: guess who I've got sitting in my lap?

Russ: Klarra.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: all right.

Karra: she says hi.

Russ: well, hi.

Karra: she actually says Google gah gah.

Russ: I said hi to her today.

Karra: which means just a bit more than hi.

Russ: oh. Okay.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: on the implosion today........

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: I did a loop, I think it was ten loops before implosion.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, how many would be a better one for a mega implosion?

Karra: adding more energy would be better. Maybe like one twice as powerful......twice as many.

Russ: okay, so about twenty so it builds up even twice as much.

Karra: yeah and do a real big one. Omal is here sitting helping me with these figures. It's not my department.

Russ: okay. Because yeah, the thing I want to do now is definitely work on solidity here.

Karra: okay. Oh, what do you think of my kimona?

Russ: oh, it's very nice.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: a little bit shorter than I expected actually.

Karra: uh-huh. Tia is going to give me another one.

Russ: all right.

Karra: the ones she uses or used to use for sleeping in. It's a little bit more silky and it's a little shorter.

Russ: hmm, I'll put some lotion on my hands before I come up.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: I'll just get some lotion on when I get up there.

Karra: okay.

Russ: all right, anything else?

Karra: nothing that I can say on tape.

Russ: oh God. Well I'm going to try to get there again tonight.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: spend some time there.

Karra: okay.

Russ: so I guess anything left to say, I'll just say in person.

Karra: uh-huh. I'll say what I have in my mind in person.

Russ: okay. We'll reach somewhere in the middle here.

Karra: uh-huh. Okay I'm going to hand over to little sis.

Russ: all right.

Karra: and little sis is.........she's more like she used to be.

Russ: oh good.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, well I'll see you little while.

Karra: okay.

Russ: love you lots.

Karra: okay.

---

(Kiri follows up her sister in the channeling field)


Russ: hi Kiri.

Kiri: yo.

Russ: yo.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: how is the little mama?

Kiri: little mama is fine.

Russ: all right. Karra's right, you are sounding a lot like your old self.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: good, I think you're getting close to that time it would be a little bit harder on you.

Kiri: I managed to prop up a lot of energy.

Russ: oh good. Oh, Tia mentioned the party today.......

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: when I was up for after the birth.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: but Mark's afraid you're not going to have enough energy to be able to attend.

Kiri: I'll attend. I may just sit there be a silly thorn all quiet.

Russ: that'll be a change.

Kiri: yeah. See how I feel at the time.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: any conversations from the little one there?

Kiri: constantly.

Russ: constantly?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: what does it have to say at this young age?

Kiri: what is?

Russ: what is?

Kiri: what is this, what is that?

Russ: already?

Kiri: uh-huh, very inquisitive.

Russ: wow. You have to explain each time?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: how do you coach your answers into baby talk?
            


SIDE ONE ENDS

SIDE TWO



(Kiri continues on to side two)



Kiri: I'm going to have a chat with Omal and then I'm going down to help Karra with Klarra and hopefully by the time I get back I'll be able to join in the fun.

Russ: okay, if they'll let you. Well I'll probably see you up there in a little while.

Kiri: I'll be over at Karra's for a while and when you arrive I should go and talk with Nazreal.

Russ: you don't have to leave. We probably won't get too much going anyway.

Kiri: I'll go and talk with my nephew.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: I'm getting him back up with his research and I've also got my last genetic experiment which should be coming to an end in about two or three days anyway.

Russ: ahhh. What experiment's that?

Kiri: it's to do with plant life with acceleration in cloning.

Russ: hmm.

Kiri: accelerating the clone process.

Russ: oh, so this is something that could be applied to other areas then?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: oh, so it's important.

Kiri: oh yeah.

Russ: so how tough is it working with plant genes compared to say animal genes?

Kiri: it's a lot easier actually.

Russ: oh really?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: there's more simplified DNA and such?

Kiri: yeah, much simplified. The next one, the next experiment we've got planned, we'll be working with little, furry creatures about inch and a half, two inches long, that squeak a lot? I don't know what you call them.

Russ: mice?

Kiri: well as I said, I don't know what you call them.

Russ: are they white, four legs and a tail?

Kiri: yeah, four legs, a long, thin tail, little claws, big ears.

Russ: oh, could be rats.

Kiri: well I don't know what rats are or mice are in your......

Russ: you just described a mouse perfectly.

Kiri: oh, it's probably what it is then.

Russ: well they do a lot of experiments on them down here.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: that's our main experimental animal.

Kiri: yeah,uh-huh.

Russ: white mice and such but finding genetic patterns. Like a white mouse and a black mouse and you study traits in the......

Kiri: offspring.

Russ: the offspring among so many generations to find your dominant and recessive genes. I should study genetics sometime. It's a fascinating field to get into.

Kiri: uh-huh. We could get Kornas in.

Russ: hmm.

Kiri: uh-huh. Right, do you have any serious questions for me?

Russ: serious questions.....

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: not really, just talking shop basically.

Kiri: okay.

Russ: because everything I'm doing now is concerning farsighting.

Kiri: yeah, working on that. So no asking about coercion?

Russ: not really, our newest person that's been kind of wandering around here is a coercer.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: the girl who was here for a little temporary roommate you might say.

Kiri: uh-huh. And talking of temporary and permanent roommates, how is your........?

Russ: our resident shield tester?

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: yeah, what's funny is Susan, who is the name of the girl who was here, says her coercion always has been in the way of men.

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: apparently, she's picked up a technique you developed.

Kiri: seduction.

Russ: absolutely, seductive coercion.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: she says she has no problem with it whatsoever.

Kiri: perhaps we ought to sit down and have a chat sometime.

Russ: I think so too.

Kiri: talk over techniques.

Russ: but now, where does she go from seductive coercion next?

Kiri: it's up to her.

Russ: ok, but I mean what would be the next logical step, just normal coercion?

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: okay. So it would be positive?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: or aggressive.

Kiri: uh-huh. Whichever she chooses.

Russ: okay, because I haven't discussed it in detail with her. I'm waiting till she gets her farsighting and shielding down first.

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: good. That's all I've got love.

Kiri: ahhhh.

Russ: I know.

Kiri: well okay, let me see. I don't know how I'm going to word this. Tia is bonded with Mark and I'd like to bond with him but I'm not quite sure how to go about it because I don't want upset Tia and I don't want to upset Mark but I'd like to become bonded as well.

Russ: well, I think Mark would love it.......

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: but I think he's more concerned with your feelings and how you would like to stay maybe a free-agent points is what his thinking is.

Kiri: uh-huh. Well, hmm, I'd like to stay free but yet I'd like to be part of a group.

Russ: right, so this is something you have to sit both of them down with......

Kiri: uh-huh. How would I work that?

Russ: well, you'd say, "I've got a..."

Kiri: proposition.

Russ: something like that but you'd discuss your needs.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: in this case your need to be part of a family unit sort of thing.

Kiri: yeah. Because it's concerning Alex which is why I've been thinking about it.

Russ: good point, good point. In that case, that's how you would approach it.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: how you would like to make this more of an official....

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: type of union.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and at that point, the arrangements are made......

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and we could possibly do it at the same party we do it for the little one.

Kiri: okay.

Russ: so that might be a good plan.

Kiri: uh-huh. There is a secretary here who is new to the job. She'd like to say hi.

Russ: what's her name?

Kiri: it's hard to translate what her name means, Flower of the teardrop(?), child of the moon. That's the correct translation but.....

Russ: we can call her flower child.

Kiri: hmm, sounds a little bit old hat.

Russ: it does kind of.

Kiri: uh-huh. How about Luna?

Russ: Luna works for me.

Kiri: uh-huh. She's not going to channel this time. She's just sitting here taking notes.

Russ: well, wish her hi from all of us down here on earth.

Kiri: okay, I will do so.

Russ: great, and well I might meet her sometime too when I go up there.

Kiri: uh-huh. Yes, she is, how would I be best to describe her? She's about a little bit shorter than Mark. She has long, red hair. Long nose, so very pretty girl actually. If it wasn't for my current condition she'd be my girl.

Russ: well invite her to the party.

Kiri: she smiles.

Russ: oh that's good. Yeah, invite her to the party. We'll meet her there.

Kiri: she is, hold on a second, she is 29 on Hades which I don't know what......
 
Russ: it breaks down to about 21 down here.

Kiri: well she's not from Tia's home planet and she's not from Sirius, she's from another planet that's closer to Omal and Korton's home planet but in a different dimension.

Russ: we'll take it at twenty-nine then.

Kiri: okay.

Russ: that's a reasonable age.

Kiri: hold on a second. Hmm, she has tanned skin, she's very friendly. I'll discuss it with her later. I'll mosey on out of here.

Russ: oh good.

Kiri: okay?

Russ: well Kiri, have fun, enjoy, we'll be talking to you hopefully when I get up there in a little while at least to say hi.

Kiri: okay, I'll hang around.

Russ: okay, good. 

Kiri: so, I will see you later and as always.......

Russ: okay.

Kiri: look forward to seeing you.

Russ: good, three weeks?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: alrighty.

Kiri: and I'm out of here.

Russ: take care love.

---

(Omal returns to add to the night's discussion)



Omal: good evening Russ.

Russ: good evening Omal.

Omal: now why did you turn on just before we came in?

Russ: to watch you come in.

Omal: getting clever.

Russ: a little bit fragmented on that one. Kind of come in pieces you might say. Take over parts of the time you might say.

Omal: we prefer to do things carefully and make sure the channeler is functioning within the correct operational parameters.

Russ: he is I take it?

Omal: within certain parameters. Normal parameters for the channeler.

Russ: good. Is he off with Kiri and Tia I hope?

Omal: no, I'm afraid not.

Russ: damn. He's off with Korton?

Omal: yes.

Russ: oh well, I know the girls will miss him.

Omal: well presumably. We are all kept pretty busy up here at the moment, on our toes as it were. Never know who's going to drop by.

Russ: I know.

Omal: yes, you experienced it.

Russ: yeah, fun little visitation.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: for all practical purposes, it worked out well.

Omal: yes, did you enjoy your theological discussion with.....?

Russ: the theologian himself.

Omal: yes, the master.

Russ: I assume he doesn't mind maintaining his aspect as Korton for a while there?

Omal: I think it should be pretty obvious from the start. Who else would address you as Mr. Hatfield?

Russ: right, but I have a feeling that, and Mark agrees, that there was a little bit of coercion involved because he knows I won't talk to him on a one-to-one basis like I would Korton.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: only because he scares the dickens out of me.

Omal: true, true.

Russ: I wouldn't be getting into theological discussions with Ashtar if I knew it was Ashtar.

Omal: yes, that is wise.

Russ: I know I would lose.

Omal: which you did.

Russ: which I did but, I came up with the idea later on afterwards.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: that I should have presented to him the fact that while soldiers can teach teachers how to fight.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: teachers can teach soldiers how to not fight.

Omal: true, true.

Russ: that might've stumped him.

Omal: I don't know, he would probably come up with an answer that would have stumped you big time.

Russ: I know. But had me wondering.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: anyway, it was quite enjoyable.

Omal: I'm glad you enjoyed it.

Russ: yes I did. All right, what's on the list for tonight? I believe it's free time.

Omal: it still is free time, yes.

Russ: yes.

Omal: negative feedbacks I presume?

Russ: negative feedback, coercion....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and a little bit of farsighting.

Omal: okay, let's start off with this negative feedback loop.

Russ: alrighty.

Omal: you are concerned about the lack of pain.

Russ: correct.

Omal: hmm.

Russ: I don't want pain really but I'm expecting pain and can't get it. I think that might be my problem?

Omal: that is possibly your problem that you're anticipating pain. It is like when you stick a needle in yourself, you're expecting it to hurt and sometimes it doesn't because the expectation is there. But yet you bleed all the same.

Russ: it still hurts. I know what you mean though.

Omal: it is the expectation, it didn't hurt as much. You were expecting it to hurt and yet you stick it in and it doesn't hurt as much.

Russ: right. I assume the reason why it shouldn't hurt is because it's going through various neural pathways that open up by force.

Omal: yes, uh-huh.

Russ: now my lack of pain, would that mean that I'm failing in this and my neural pathways aren't being opened? Or they are being opened and just not feeling any of the pain?

Omal: it is probably a little bit of both but they are being enlarged.

Russ: okay.

Omal: but they're only being enlarged at a small rate.

Russ: hmm, was there a monitor on me today during what I was doing this morning?

Omal: unfortunately, we were aware a little bit too late to follow the process from beginning to end.

Russ: okay, because I had some major feedback loop going on this morning.

Omal: how tight was it? Was it overflowing or was it a nice, tight beam?

Russ: well, I started off slow and I started going a little bit different from normal.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: where before I using the idea that chakras in front of the body.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: but now I'm going with the fact that chakras are along the spine.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: so I'm working up sending the energy through the chakras along my spine now seems even better. And, as it started picking up speed, it picked up solidity.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and the faster it went the solider it would get intil it was a vibrating band almost with solid energy that I could feel and Mark could feel and he wasn't even near me.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and I thought this was going to be it, this was going to be the biggie, it was really there, sent it in and nothing.

Omal: was it a tight beam or was it a wide, fat beam?

Russ: it was a fat beam.

Omal: ahh, it's got to be a tight beam.

Russ: well it was gathering so much energy, it couldn't get any tighter.

Omal: you'd be surprised how tight you can get it.

Russ: oh. So in another words, tighten the beam up more?

Omal: yes. I think we went over this a little while back.....

Russ: yeah.

Omal: that it had to be a nice, tight beam. Tight and tidy. If it is a wide, fat beam, it tends to bleed a little bit.

Russ: I would say it was the width of my fist.

Omal: it needs to be tighter.

Russ: the width of a pencil say?

Omal: yes.

Russ: so I'm sending the energy in the width of a pencil?

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, let me get this straight. Just before I send it in, it loops up and then instead of looping back down to go back to my chakras, it crosses back in and goes straight in through my left eye.

Omal: yes.

Russ: damn.

Omal: okay, where did you go wrong?

Russ: well that's what I did but tighter.

Omal: yeah, it needs to be tighter. As tight as possible, the tighter the better.

Russ: hmm.

Omal: about a third of an inch in diameter should suffice.

Russ: that's tight.

Omal: uh-huh. That is about the width of a pencil.

Russ: okay. I was thinking, with acupuncture.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: talking about needles....

Omal: yes.

Russ: they don't hurt......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and yet they do their work the way they're supposed to.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: now I'm using almost the same principle.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: but it's supposed to hurt.

Omal: yes. Acupuncture is A, it is a much smaller object, B it is going to the body, it is not penetrating the brain.

Russ: hmm.

Omal: if you were to use acupuncture to penetrate the heart you would feel it. Or the brain.....

Russ: ohhhh.

Omal: you would feel that. Whereas it's going through tissue and muscle and so on, it is not as harmful. But yet if you penetrate an organ of some kind, then you feel it. Maybe not immediately but you feel it later on.

Russ: okay, now, I've had some curious side effects from the negative feedback loop I'd like to talk about.

Omal: uh-huh, okay.

Russ: all right, number one, I didn't get to bed last night till about 4:30 or five.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: okay. So then I should've just been dragging my butt everywhere.

Omal: yes.

Russ: and at first I was. Then I did the negative feedback loop and I was a little bit wonky as Mark would say afterwards, and then as soon as I got the wonkiness feeling gone, my energy level was so up that......

Omal: is......sorry.

Russ: oh, I was just going to say, I was smiling, laughing, having a great time, I had tons of energy all day long and I was still just amped up. I should be dead on my feet ready to drop.

Omal: that is because the energy that you pick up is being activated, activated more energy. See, which gives you extra energy to make you, how did you put it, bouncy and cheerful?

Russ: right, amped up.

Omal: amped up, that's the one.

(Russ chuckles)

Russ: you're going to learn all kinds of English from us.

Omal: this is amusing.

Russ: anyway, right, so that's actually a good exercise in the morning when I'm feeling kind of tired.

Omal: yes. You can't do it on a regular basis because after a while you run out of energy and then you just, to use an expression that Mark uses occasionally, you just fall over.

Russ: hmm, okay.

Omal: which actually I presume means that you run out of energy and just.....

Russ: collapse.

Omal: yeah, dragging your butt, no energy, shields are low in power, capability is almost zero and so on.

Russ: right. Okay, so not all the time. Well, for now I'll keep practicing it anyway.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: I need the practice.

Omal: yes, but it would be more effective after a good night sleep. You would be, what's the term that you use when you have lots of energy?

Russ: amped up.

Omal: amped up, hyper.

Russ: hyper, ahh yes.

Omal: yes, hyper beyond belief.

Russ: okay.

Omal: a bit like the channeler gets sometimes.

Russ: he sure does.

Omal: you can tell when he's been doing negative feedback loops.

Russ: okay, so this is all going to be coming in really handy for this next part of this learning and study?

Omal: yes. Uh-huh.

Russ: okay. Which leads me to my next point.

Omal: okay.

Russ: farsighting crystal.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, in my hand I have a crystal sphere.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: something very strange happened to this crystal sphere.

Omal: okay.

Russ: when I bought it, on the surface of it, or just below the surface, it was like two little eye holes almost where somebody had dropped it and caused a little refraction type of thing....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: but very small but very clear like somebody shot a BB in it almost.

Omal: BB?

Russ: a little high-powered steel pellet fired from an air gun.

Omal: ahh.

Russ: in other words, the middle part of the circle was clear, the outer rings of it were kind of like a crater on the moon kind of splattered out.

Omal: ahh yes.

Russ: and it was two of them next to each other that looked like eyes.

Omal: yes.

Russ: they're not there anymore.

Omal: and you want me to ask explain why they're not there anymore?

Russ: well, Mark's gets clear but it's been a long time. This is like a week after I bought it and they're gone.

Omal: what sort of energy do you use on it?

Russ: not much with it. I've used it for farsighting a couple times.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: I keep it in my pocket all the time.

Omal: maybe it is a self-healing crystal.

Russ: oh.

Omal: there are crystals that do self heal.

Russ: sure, I've got a few of them around.

Omal: depending on their circumstances and who uses them, how much energy, the attention and so on.

Russ: hmm, okay. So the crystal itself doesn't lend its energy though to farsighting?

Omal: no.

Russ: it's merely an aid to keep your awareness focused in case you start to drift.

Omal: yes. You get a much tighter form of travel to start off with which aids you in your farsighting until you get the pattern down and then you don't need it.

Russ: how do you travel? How you mean?

Omal: what you don't get so sloppy around the edges.

Russ: oh, you mean instead of drifting.

Omal: correct.

Russ: I see.

Omal: it's a much tighter beam. It also means you can travel a lot faster because you're not wasting as much energy.

Russ: oh. Oh good, that brings me up to my farsighting.

Omal: okay.

Russ: I did yesterday? Day before yesterday.

Omal: yes, Wednesday.

Russ: correct, my day off.

Omal: it was not your day off from your other job.

Russ: right, theater but yeah, I had some morning time free. I went ahead and traveled on up to Hades Base.......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: got to Karra's room and we went to the ski slopes.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: but I was feeling this pull from back here.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and even though I was feeling very solid at the time, the pull was getting stronger and stronger. I kept having to fight it with more and more energy to stay where I was until finally I just had to give it up......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and head back from the slopes back down here.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and it was very uncomfortable. It was like a thousand needles were pushing into my body kind of.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: Mark says he ignored it one time, fought it even longer than I did and suffered some severe consequences from it.

Omal: uh-huh. You want to know what it is?

Russ: you betcha.

Omal: it is your body calling to be whole. Once you manage to condition your body to accept the fact that it is temporarily apart, then you can start to do some serious farsighting. But in the meantime, your body has to get conditioned to the fact that you are not only in a different place but in a different dimension. It is the dimension that you break through that causes it that your body is aware that you have broken through to somewhere different and it wants to return. And it pulls and pulls and pulls.

Russ: ohhhhh. So in other words, if I was to say stay on third dimension here and travel around the neighborhood or something, I wouldn't feel that pull.

Omal: no. But it is breaking through that dimension and it will become less and less......

Russ: okay.

Omal: until your body is conditioned. It is also a stretching type experience.

Russ: yeah, that's what it felt like. It felt like my body was like a elongated a thousand miles or something.

Omal: and then some.

Russ: and then some. But yeah, I don't plan on sticking around the neighborhood here.

Omal: it is best to start off slowly and gently.

Russ: no I'm kidding, yeah I know.

Omal: you don't want to overload yourself and burnout and lose your capability which can happen.

Russ: right. But I do want to go to Hades Base.

Omal: of course.

Russ: it's the only place I want to farsight to.

Omal: don't you want to relieve the channel of some of his work load as you were saying?

Russ: well yeah, but that's not until after I get Hades Base down.....

Omal: of course, of course, were teasing you.

Russ: I can never tell sometimes. A little chiding there on the other side.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, so it's nothing serious.

Omal: yes it is serious.

Russ: it is serious.

Omal: yes. Because if you ignore it as was mentioned about the channeller, you can have some very serious side effects. You can actually overload yourself and then everything goes down.

Russ: hmm.

Omal: you crash the computer as you might say.

Russ: right. Precautions then?

Omal: when it gets strong enough to become an interference, return.....

Russ: okay.

Omal: practice is a precaution because your body gets used to it and after a while it accepts it.

Russ: hmm. Though it didn't feel like that really the time I went to visit your room. There was never really a kind of pull.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: I mean it felt comfortable where I was on Hades Base......

Omal: yeah.

Russ: in your room. Is that maybe your energy or some other energy I was borrowing?

Omal: we'll let you work it out for yourself because it is part of the learning experience.

Russ: okay. So practice and don't ignore it.

Omal: correct.

Russ: okay. Is there a way I can lessen it maybe? I mean besides the practice.

Omal: practice is about the only way.

Russ: that is. It seems like some kind of meditation would do.

Omal: no, because you have to make that jump to it to get up your stamina as it were.

Russ: hmm, okay. Fair enough. All right, I'll try that and so I might not stay as long as I'd like to, I'll just be able to get there more often.

Omal: yes, it is again a matter of building up stamina. Each time that you come up stay little bit longer or at least try.

Russ: okay.

Omal: okay, next question please.

Russ: coercion.

Omal: okay. You know it is not my field as much as Korton but Korton is indisposed unfortunately.

Russ: oh, it's an easy one.

Omal: okay.

Russ: coercion with adults has been pretty easy lately.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: but tonight I tried to work with coercion on children.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: no luck.

Omal: okay.

Russ: in other words, I could get eye contact. Mark says if you get down to their level it works better.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: but.....

Omal: of course in your work environment when you're working behind that area, you cannot get down to their level.

Russ: right. I was wondering if there's something about children that keeps them from being coerced?

Omal: they have not yet put the mental barriers in place that adults have, the mental taboos. So their minds are open but yet they have natural shielding to protect them.

Russ: oh they do?

Omal: but, as they get older it dissipates.

Russ: hmm.

Omal: and sometimes it dissipates more rapidly as the child gets older and older.

Russ: I see. So now if the child.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: firstborn in the world has got memories say of past lives and things like shields.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: is that something he puts into his life at that point to work with?

Omal: yes, yes. And then, as the child gets older, by surrounding practice it dissipates. That is why it has been stated in the past that the ideal learning age is of a child that is freshly born. That way you can work with them and get them to use their shields and then slowly their shields become stronger and stronger.

Russ: hmmm, I see. Okay. Mark was wondering about his being able to work with the child up there that's about to be born.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: Kiri and his child about......

Omal: their child.

Russ: their child, right. Any kind of influence that he might have.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: that might be more controlled over what he might be able to suggest?

Omal: you mean to say that we would interfere and guide the growth of the child?

Russ: something like that. Like he'd like to give it more of a military training like he got.

Omal: this will be taken care of at a more appropriate time.

Russ: okay. I only bring it up because we mentioned it the other day.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: all right, right. Now then, going back to coercion if we could please.

Omal: okay.

Russ: okay.

Omal: you've been very formal this evening.

Russ: I don't want to get into too many taboo subjects.

Omal: ahh, we will tell you when it is taboo.

Russ: oh, okay. I don't feel like get reprimanded at all.

Omal: after the incident other night, you're a little bit nervous, huh?

Russ: a little bit nervous, a little gun shy.

Omal: that is understandable.

Russ: nothing like an caught with your pants down you might say.

Omal: for all's you know, I could be Ashtar masquerading as Omal.

Russ: no, not this time.

Omal: no true, too humorous.

Russ: too humorous, you're staying too long.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, back to coercion.

Omal: okay?

Russ: all right. What I'm trying to do now is work on a muscle reflex coercion.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: in other words, where if I want to flex my fingers, it's a mental command I have no control over and it's so fast that it does it without my even knowing practically.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: can coercion be controlled like that after repeated use?

Omal: yes it can but it takes practice and you have to be careful that it does not work when you don't want it to. That is why it is always advisable to use it when you wish to use it.

Russ: hmm. Well see, my problem is, it's usually too slow.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: by the time I want to use it, I've lost eye contact.

Omal: yes. Then it is practice and holding the eye contact whilst you build up the time and the practice.

Russ: hmm, okay. Now with people who have more of a history of association with me from past lives be more susceptible say to coercion than others who never really met me?

Omal: possibly less because they know your mental pattern. They would be aware if they had been aware in the past that you are coercing them or of your capability.

Russ: hmm, okay. Because yeah, I've noticed that with a lot of people that I know, I don't have as much coercing friends.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: who I feel like I've had more lives with then I do complete strangers who I've never had any association with.

Omal: is again as we said because they're used to your mental pattern.

Russ: hmm, true.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: okay. I am noticing though where you mentioned one time before that in using coercion, you do get a feel for the person far deeper than just the.....

Omal: just the surface.

Russ: right. You can delve into what's going on just below the surface you might say.

Omal: uh-huh. Yes, you can almost establish a rapport and communicate with their deeper conscious.

Russ: right. Kind of scary sometimes just what people are thinking going through under the surface.

Omal: you would be surprised what people think.

Russ: getting surprised actually.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: speaking of coercion, is that still the ongoing experiment or project for me?

Omal: yes. Because you have to carry on building up your stamina and capabilities such as your shields you should still be working on and refining.

Russ: right, I was working on them today for a bit.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: but I remember Ashtar told me to be careful.....

Omal: yes.

Russ: so I'm being sout of selective in my coercing.....

Omal: yes.

Russ: usage.

Omal: that is wise as Ashtar is always wise on these matters. Now it's my turn to sound formal.

Russ: that's all right. Okay. I noticed Ashtar was very concerned when our feelings towards the inhabitants of the Bat people.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: I'm wondering is that because you on fifth dimension have so much more idea of life after life type of thing that the multiple deaths of people is no longer a factor that's really important?

Omal: yes, to a certain extent. Ashtar is interested in it and I, to further his understanding of your species, he, to gauge you personally and the channeler and see, and this one's a little bit more complicated, is to see what affect it will have when there is a mass dying on you and how you perceive it and feel it.

Russ: hmm. So he kind of got the impression from talking to me that Mark and I have completely different views on this?

Omal: yes. It was stated that your perception is different from Mark's perception.

Russ: right but that's because I do regressions.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: I see people die numerous times in a single night sometimes.

Omal: yes.

Russ: it's not that major of a thing. But where Mark has seen physical death it's much more dramatic.

Omal: uh-huh. A physical death is not as pleasant as a spiritual death as it were.

Russ: right.

Omal: or a temporary spiritual rest.

Russ: yeah, there's no real difference though is there? Spiritual death and physical death? There's no difference.

Omal: I'm not a theologian so I would not get into that kind of subject.

Russ: something to dwell on though.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: hours of dwelling maybe.

Omal: yes.

Russ: okay. What's up that you'd like to talk to me about?

Omal: what do you want to know about?

Russ: manifestation actually.

Omal: the penny, huh?

Russ: yeah. Well, the penny part. Just say it's a part of manifestation.

Omal: yes, how to create it.

Russ: I've got the how to create it part.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: what I felt today doing a negative feedback loop, is that I was gathering the same kind of energy I would use to create the penny....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: or other such objects that I wish to manifest. It was solid enough to where I felt I could of reached out and touched it.

Omal: yeah.

Russ: now is that something close to what we're working on?

Omal: yes, we will cover manifestation in great detail at a later date. The same as we have covered coercion and shielding.

Russ: okay. That is still a project that should be worked on along with the others?

Omal: yes, yes.

Russ: okay.

Omal: but again, we don't want you to indulge in too much as you'll burn yourself out.

Russ: right, that's why I'm trying to gauge what's important, what's not important this time.

Omal: we will get the manifestation in due course. No need to get hasty and rush onto something before you have finished your current studies.

Russ: okay. Yeah, currently it's coercion, farsighting.....

Omal: and shielding.

Russ: shielding, yeah.


 
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