Dual Meta-Concert Practice Plus One On Sirius-

Channeled (02/01/1994 & 02/15/94)

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Archivist Notes: For the month of March, the members of Ashtar Command recorded two different channeling sessions two weeks apart back in February 1994 with both revolving around meta-concerts. Both sessions also relied on energy channeled from the base and the meta-concert constructed there through Mark into whoever was serving as conductor down here. The object of meta-concerts was to affect the flame of a candle in some way. We were successful in all four of the tests with the most success found when the roles were reversed. Beyond the meta-concert practice was various other topics of conversation along with some amazing revelations. Side one gets off to start with Tia and I reviewing my recent astral travel training and her providing some insights on child rearing from her experiences with her triplets. We jump into the first meta-concert practice with this one set up to help with my focusing of energies. Reviewing the results, it was found my energy being wasn't tight enough so in an effort to practice getting it tighter, I ended up getting a flashback when trying to follow the beam. The pain and suffering you'll hear afterwords is a warning for others not to do the same. It's Kiri's turn to channel so Tia steps away as we find out a bit of the experiences Kiri went through in college prior to her joining Ashtar Command. Some of those were good such as her winning three coercion competitions in a row while others were bad such as the time she helped in a meta-concert designed to send a fellow student back to the third dimension. A student of coercion had become powerful and corrupt to the point where it was decided further lessons on the third were required. The meta-concert also resulted in another student acting as the executive in the meta-concert to ascend to the next highest dimension by self-sacrificing herself voluntarily. Other subjects covered included parenting advice, course conditions for an up coming ski race, and her desire to become a better fencer for her bouts with Mark. Next up would be a brand-new session two weeks later.

We return on side two fourteen days later with an additional person here on the third dimension to take part in the meta-concert practice set up by Kiri. Like before, the energy for the meta-concert was going to come from the base for two different practices but, this time, Skip and I were going to reverse the executive and conductor roles to see the difference. After the first practice it is found that Mark's astral travel crystal found its way into the pyramid with the end result being that the crystal had its information wiped. That meant that Mark would have to program it over the next month. With everyone all relaxed, we're ready to begin the next meta-concert practice but find it is Korton who has taken over from Kiri the verbal part of the practice. What we find out later is that Kiri was having trouble handling the audio and meta-concert duties at the same time. In between practices, a subject comes up many would find helpful on patience and impatience. We explore the bond between the two because, as Korton says, you can't have one without the other. We run our second practice with the roles reversed and find better success manipulating the candle flame. From there we return to the topic of patience and impatience and Korton gives a very good analogy of how age is an important factor in how both are handled. We end things by him pointing out that the best planned events can go off plan and handling the change is a learning experience. It's at this point Kiri returns to take over from where she left off as ring mistress and we go over a few things such as dealing with mistakes and how the room we're in is about to get a complete cleaning. A request goes out for Omal to come into speak as he is just outside the pyramid in the backyard of Kiri, Tia and Mark's place. He takes his place in the channeling field within the pyramid and we wrap up the channeling session with our questions to him. A situation had come up at my work whereby a young man had come into the shop and had been reviewing my journal of the channeling sessions. That got them curious about Ashtar Command but his age made his discretion a question that I took to Omal for advice. His suggestion was to work with the young man step by step without forcing too much on him at once. The last thing we went over was plans for the next channeling session when we would be working on the connections between Jewish mysticism, Egyptian science, religion, and the Gypsies. We know from hindsight that was also a very good session.

In love, light, and wisdom as one,
Russ and Karra

TIA- Co-Ring Mistress
KIRI- Co-Ring Mistress RUSS HATFIELD (Archivist)


1.)(0:00)- Tia runs through a practice meta-concert with her supplying energy from the base for me to get used to learning how to focus it. Practice to tighten the beam afterwards leads to an energy backlash.
2.)(26:22)- Kiri relates a time from college when she participated in a meta-concert that sent a corrupt coercer in her class back to the third dimension while another classmate ascended due to a self-sacrifice.


1.)(0:00)- Kiri goes through the briefing of the upcoming meta-concert and the roles of each person. After a practice session, she discovers Mark's astral travel crystal fell into the pyramid and was wiped clean.
2.)(18:15)- Korton takes over as speaker for the next practices due to the strain on Kiri. We follow up with a discussion on the bond between patience and impatience. We find out age has much to do with both.
3.)(21:50)- Omal wraps up the channeling session answering a question about how to work with a teenager in helping them along a path of higher consciousness. As an artist, we'll start with his creativity.

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(Tia gets the session off to a lively start)

Russ: long time no see.

Tia: yeah. Live, live, live, yeah.

Russ: let's get it started, that's all she wrote.

Tia: uh-huh. BRRRRRRRRTTTTTTTT, yeah.

Russ: hi again.

(Tia blows a raspberry)

Russ: back to where we started again, for the record this time.

Tia: hold on, let me wind up that the gramophone.

(Tia makes a humming noise)

Russ: all right, back......

Tia: it's really quite simple you know.

Russ: yes, yes, yes, I know. You showed me, it's very simple.

Tia: yeah.

Russ: if you can get out of your body quite reasonably though. I mean it doesn't work if you realize that you're still in a body down here.

Tia: you have to do better than that.

Russ: it was good practice up there though.

Tia: well.......

Russ: yeah.

Tia: we're going to get you workouts.

Russ: that's what the whole routine is I'm getting into now............

Tia: yes.

Russ: practicing on a daily basis.

Tia: uh-huh, we're going to work you over buddy boy. I'm going to go hostile sometimes.

Russ: good, I can use it. You notice though I was little bit more solid up there.

Tia: yeah. Now, are you feeling lucky punk? Do you need to make our day? Okay........

Russ: yes.

Tia: go on, get the big energy crystal.

Russ: let me figure which crystals.

Tia: where is it?

Russ: it's just here to one side. All right.

Tia: let me get it warmed up for you and it should be real hot.

Russ: okay.

(Tia speaks to one of the cats in Durondedunn)

Tia: I was hoping that he was going to run you know so I could hunt him down.

Russ: not likely.

Tia: that's why he was getting beaten up so much.

Russ: oh yeah, I can see that. You definitely had him at an advantage there.

Tia: I could have beaten him with just sheer weight.

Russ: well yeah, but what fun is that?

Tia: uh-huh. So, question, now where were we?

Russ: well I don't know, I was leaving that up to you. I've got all kinds of fun stuff we can talk about while we wait.

Tia: okay, what do you want talk about?

Russ: okay, so time jumps are going to be out for a little while but at least I've got the basics down now thanks to you. I noticed something that when we went from fifth through fourth there was not much change. But as soon as we slipped into the third, there was a whole major change in the way my body felt because I could feel my body down here much clearer........

Tia: yeah.

Russ: until we went back up into fourth and all of a sudden it was like somebody shut this veil down or something.

Tia: yeah, that's because you were wrapped up in my energy field.

Russ: was I now?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: well what happened when we got to third?

Tia: well I can't hold onto you in the third. Mark's much better at holding onto people in any dimension.

Russ: well yeah. Okay, ahhh, here we go.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: all right, now then, this is a question on hereditary offspring and fun stuff like this........

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: being as you now have some. We can talk about it.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: okay. Now some offspring, due to the laws of hereditary, have variations in important characteristics.

Tia: like flaming red hair.

Russ: well, we're talking more on a spiritual level.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: some are spiritual, some are not.

Tia: some are just plain downright horny.

Russ: now, problems sometimes occur due to jealousy and bad feelings. I'm sure this doesn't happen up on your dimension but how do you prevent that in the training and the growing up years of preventing of any jealousies happening?

Tia: time, spending just as much time with all of them. Bathing them all in it, equal amount of love and understanding.

Russ: okay.......

Tia: and if you believe that you'll believe anything.

Russ: uh-huh. Now let's say Diana......

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: doesn't have anything......just for the sake of argument........

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: okay? And Minerva and Athena both have lots......

Tia: yeah?

Russ: okay.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: now, how do you keep Diana from feeling left out?

Tia: you can't unfortunately or I don't know of any other way apart from just showering her with so much love but then you upset the other two. However, that's not the case with Diana. Guess what she started doing?

Russ: what? PK?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: good deal.

Tia: but the thing is that she is more talented than her two elder sisters.

Russ: well I called it though, didn't I?

Tia: she is a born executive.

Russ: all right.

Tia: she is also a born, natural conductor.

Russ: well.

Tia: which is very unusual.

Tia: yes it is. She is also pretty good with her PK but she needs the energy from the other two to do it where she acts as a conductor and executive all combined into one which has really confused the hell out of some people up here.

Russ: no doubt. So in this case it's not going to be a problem.

Tia: no.

Russ: now is there a way to............if someone has nothing.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: to at least give them working on something......?

Tia: well if they don't have any talents at all then there is nothing that you can do except for using them as a battery.

Russ: okay. So ........oh by the way, who's on tonight?

Tia: oh, just three of us here at the moment.

Russ: oh, you, Omal and.....

Tia: Kiri.

Russ: Kiri?

Tia: uh-huh. Luna's gone back down to.....

Russ: she gone?

Tia: yeah, she's gone back down to have some injections and they need some various bodily fluids from her.

Russ: oh.

Tia: yeah, she's allowed out of her room but she's got to go back for regular checkups every four hours or so.

Russ: wow.

Tia: see how it's adjusting. Even though it's her own uterus, it still has to be checked.

Russ: how is it going?

Tia: oh, it's going all right. She's suffers from cramps quite a bit.

Russ: really?

Tia: feels terribly uncomfortable and she's got no interest in sex whatsoever.

Russ: well that might change. Well, you probably heard the news by now, I'm not a father down here.

Tia: you were looking forward to that, were you not?

Russ: I really was actually due to the fact that I've got kids coming up there, I would have liked a corresponding kid coming down here that I can use to basically relate to my children........

Tia: meta-concert, come on, construct a meta-concert. Meta-concert time, come on, come on, come on. Here you are, executive? Okay, ready, ready, ready? Okay, find an object, aim, okay...........executive, conductor to number one.

Russ: ready.

Tia: you're not number one, you're the executive. God, you're getting sloppy.

Russ: sorry. Executive, ready for power.

Tia: okay. Conductor sending power from number one........five, four, three, two, one, now. Conductor to back up, come on, power up, power up.

Russ: ready for more power.

Tia: okay, five, four, three, two, one, now....................................

(We wait as the power is transferred)

Tia: sloppy, sloppy, come on, we'll do it again.

Russ: what?

Tia: okay, now tighter and wait for for me to give the command that I'm passing the energy.

Russ: all right.

Tia: okay. All right, I won't go for all the details calling up primary and secondary or number one and number two. Okay? Let me get myself all settled and comfortable again. Okay.

Russ: okay.

Tia: conductor to executive, firing energy. Five, four, three, two, one, now................come on, get that beam tighter....................

(We wait as the power is transferred)

Tia: firing more energy, five, four, three, two, one, now.....................................

(We wait as the power is transferred)

Tia: have to practice a little bit more, aren't we?

Russ: yeah, yeah. I can't get the line down to a razor fine point. Comes out that way, just won't stay that way.

Tia: right, put your energy eyes on. Okay, here we go. Target select, acquired, there, into his cranium. Okay, better............pewwwwww.

Russ: must be the crystal.

Tia: it's also the fact that I'm doing conductor executive up here as well.

Russ: it's not that easy.

Tia: I'm doing reception..........you try doing it over ninety-three million miles.

(Russ chuckles)

Russ: hey, I am picking it up from that far aren't I? Well?

Tia: yeah, you're receiving the energy.

Russ: it's a workout. Maybe if we were working with the scalpel.

(A scalpel crystal)

Tia: alright, going to do it without distance. Come on, you've got work to do.

Russ: okay, what's up?

Tia: what's up? What are these things?

Russ: okay.

Tia: we'll do a running commentary.

Russ: okay.

Tia: we're just going to get you to practice on focusing.

Russ: okay.

Tia: I'm gonna do an energy run up.

Russ: okay.

Tia: what do you think of that girl Lyka, have you met her yet?

(Lyka is a member of the Sirian Defense Force and later speaker on a number of future sessions)

Russ: I haven't met her yet. Just heard all the stories about her.

Tia: she's very shy.

Russ: she's very butch.

Tia: oh, I didn't know that.

Russ: yeah.

Tia: I thought she was Kiri's type. I'll ask Kiri. Or maybe I won't ask Kiri.

Russ: okay.

Tia: yeah. So, next question?

Russ: all right............alright, now, back into what we were talking about before.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: and in this, we're working on........okay, in working with crystals like this, I've read where you have to become a power.......or become the power before you're able to use it.

Tia: you have to learn control. Basically what it's saying is that you have to know the nature of the power.

Russ: okay.

Tia: know the type of power that you wish to use. Learn how to use it, learn everything about the power that you're using.

Russ: okay.

Tia: but that's not exactly what I was going to say. Caught up with my worms, I mean words.

Russ: so, question the power that we're using and find the nature of it.

Tia: yeah.

Russ: okay. Now, for example, when working with a meta-concert with an energy crystal.......

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: right? Now I can't get the line.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: coming from the tip of the crystal to stay in a tight beam all the way to its intended target.......

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: unless the target was right up close to it. Now, to be able to bring that diffusion down into a tighter beam, I would need to be more in tune with the crystal?

Tia: uh-huh. Pick it up again.

Russ: right.

Tia: get friendly, say hi to it.

Russ: hi, how you doing?

(Russ starts to laugh)

(Tia sighs in frustration)

Tia: and now I know why Karra gets a little bit infuriated with you from time to time.

Russ: oh, that's just love.

Tia: you think I ought to grow my hair longer again?

Russ: I think you should.

Tia: uh-huh. It's only a little blonde, going to grow it real long. It's so much of a pain. I did have it that long once.

Russ: it looks good now.

Tia: yeah, all nice and controlled.

Russ: anyway, working with the crystal now, I have to be able to go into an infantiesmal stage, right?

Tia: yeah, infinitesimal.

Russ: right. Enter into a point whereby I am the point.

Tia: yeah.

Russ: okay. Now from that point, I can follow the energy out.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: and keep it.........now what if I send my energy, myself, my senses with the energy as it goes?

Tia: can't do that.

Russ: can't do that.

Tia: no.

(Tia addresses the cat)

Tia: do you play? Not very often. You're getting older, aren't you?

Russ: now, how about if I set up a target on my intended victim.

Tia: intended victim? A target? You're going to paint red, white, and black? PEWWWWW.

Russ: yeah.

Tia: and you're going to put, "hit here, ten points, five point, one point?"

Russ: basically, paint a target with a very small point at the end.

Tia: uh-huh, for the hundred points.

Russ: a hundred points. And then have my point here and then I send out the energy beam..........

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: I'm going to keep it within that target frame that I'm working with.

Tia: okay.

Russ: now as a mental exercise, that might be a good one.

Tia: uh-huh. That will help you with your visualization too.

Russ: right. Good.

Tia: what's so funny?

Russ: it was a mental thought of you painting a target.

Tia: whereabouts though, huh?

Russ: wherever you want I suppose.

Tia: when you're finished blushing.

Russ: blushing? So the energy going out has to be kept from bulging.

Tia: yeah, keep it nice and focused.

(Tia sings)

Tia: baby, what are you doing?

Russ: oh shit.

Tia: see, it's not as easy as it looks?

Russ: oh f*&K. Ohhhhhhhhhh.

Tia: you can't do that, it hurts.

(Russ groans in pain)

Tia: I'm telling you, you can't do that.

Russ: well I was trying to get the beam from bulging.

Tia: you can't do it that way, it hurts.

Russ: yeah, I know.

Tia: and that's just a little.

Russ: ouch. Hurts like a mother bear.

Tia: next time you may do more permanent damage.

Russ: son of a bitch. Well how do you do it then?

Tia: not like that.

Russ: well how do you do it then?

Tia: we're going to leave it at that for the time being.

Russ: oh thanks.

Tia: but we're going to tell you, you don't do it that way.

Russ: well yeah, obviously.

Tia: otherwise, you won't be getting up here. Well, you'll probably get up here and we'll have to put you on ice and put you back together.

Russ: ow.

Tia: Russ, you do not do that.

Russ: well yeah, yeah, yeah, I know.

Tia: even I don't do that and I'm only a rookie at that sort of thing. Now you know why you don't do it. You do not follow the energy beam because what you're doing, is that you're curving it back on itself in a very tight circle.

Russ: ow.

Tia: and as you're focusing it.....

Russ: uh-huh.

Tia: it comes out......

Russ: yeah.

Tia: and it comes right back and it hits you. And it's a tight focus, that's why it hurts. Now lie back.......

(Russ chuckles)

Russ: I am lying down.

Tia: and repeat after me, "I am a idiot, I will not do that again". "Russ is an idiot and he will not do that again" and I want you to write it out ten thousand times and I want handed in by next channeling session.

Russ: oh shit.

Tia: God. You do not do that.

Russ: all right, all right, all right, I won't do it. How am I going to learn?

Tia: we'll go through it next week. We'll get Omal to help you.

Russ: oh, son of a puppy loving mother bear, ouch. That hurts.

Tia: of course it hurts.

Russ: ohhh.

Tia: now, when you come up here this evening, we wanted to go by Kornas' laboratory.

Russ: yeah, no kidding.

Tia: and he's gonna give you a thorough check out. See what damage you have done.

Russ: I haven't done any damage, it was very minor.

Tia: you don't know that.

Russ: well damage, I know it because I broke off the second I felt it.

Tia: yes, you do not do that.

Russ: yeah.

Tia: God.

Russ: what how do I learn if I don't do it, right? Yeah?

Tia: under the tutoring of Omal. You know? Actually, adrenaline is very useful for doing things.

Russ: oh ow.

Tia: because I managed to walk up those, well crawled up those stairs and then got up and walked into your refrigeration unit.....

Russ: uh-huh.

Tia: probably have to mop up the water there......

Russ: oh, ice?

Tia: and got out the ice tray which I threw on the floor and then I threw some other things on the floor accidentally.

Russ: no worries.

Tia: caught something with my PK, don't know what it was. Put it back and I kept on having something slide out on my foot.

Russ: how's your foot?

Tia: I'm all right.

Russ: God, that was a backlash, huh?

Tia: that's a backlash and a minor one.

Russ: I'm glad I learned that.

Tia: yes.

Russ: you know? Pain is very useful. In fact I got that in my notes right here.

Tia: I want you to write down pain hurts.

Russ: wait, wait, wait, I got it right here. Wait, something very important, okay. Pain-and-suffering, attention guided to higher spiritual truth.

Tia: and also, pen please, I want you to write pain hurts.

Russ: yeah, well, who needs to write it, it's going through my brain right now.

Tia: yeah, but you're going to forget the feeling.

Russ: oh, I don't think I'll forget this feeling for long time.

(Tia picks up and speaks directly into the microphone)


Russ: alright, alright, pain hurts.

Tia: okay, now have you learned your lesson?

Russ: yes, I've learned my lesson.

Tia: God, what did I tell you before it started?

Russ: yeah, well, I didn't know what you are talking about, did I?

Tia: now you know.

Russ: now I know. I was trying to just get the beam a little bit tighter. You tell me to get a tight beam, I'm trying to get a tight beam. So much for tight beams, I'll stay with thick ones for now.

Tia: dear, dear, dear.

Russ: God.

Tia: Russ, Russ, Russ, what are we going to do with you?

Russ: we're going to be an awesome whatever we're going to do here at the end of all this mess.

Tia: yeah, that's if you don't fry your own brains in the process.

Russ: I won't fry my own brains. I know my own brains, if I fried them I would've known it.

Tia: yeah, we would've had you up here being patched up and put you back together. Naughty, naughty, naughty, naughty, you don't do that. Well I told you, I warned you, do you listen? You don't listen to your little Tia.

Russ: see, I've never had anything backlash before, have I?

Tia: it's about time.

Russ: I didn't expect the thing to backlash, I didn't know what a backlash is until now. Now I know what it is, now I know how to avoid it, okay? If I didn't ever have a backlash I never would've tried to avoid.

Tia: okay.

Russ: so now I know what it is, I know what the pain is coming from it so I won't do it again.

Tia: good.

Russ: hurts like a son of a bear. As soon I hit there it was like, "oh oh, I f*&ked up".

Tia: yeah, some people that would've just carried on going....

Russ: ohhh.

Tia: increasing the energy and increasing the pain and going, "what the hell is going on here?"

Russ: thank you for this though.

Tia: yeah, well.

Russ: oh, it does feel much better.

Tia: it's the best I could do. Normally, I'd be able to tap by hand on and go.......

Russ: oh, I'll go to Karra. No, I can't go to Karra, I'll go to Kornas.

Tia: yes, that's why told you to go to Kornas, not Karra. If I told you that Karra could have done it then I would've sent you to Karra. But Karra can do it but she'd be puked out for the next week and a half and you've only got 14, 13 days, 15?

Russ: yeah, so less then that, 14........13, 13 days........to do what?

Tia: what time is it?

Russ: it's 12:03, 12 days.

Tia: well, I've got one thing to say, happy ground pig day.

Russ: Groundhog Day? Was that today? Hey, my brains a little twisted right now, okay? It's not like it's in one piece.

(Tia starts to giggle)

Tia: oh dear, dear, dear. Well I'm going to hand over to the next horny toad if I can untangle them.

Russ: why don't you have them come over at the same time and they can share the couch?

Tia: no, because I'm going to be behaving myself too.

Russ: oh, okay.

Tia: well, I suppose I better keep my promise to Mark and keep everything in order even though I'm really......

Russ: yeah, I got it, I got it.

Tia: yeah, uh-huh. Hey, like the hat.

Russ: yes thanks, it's great. Ahhhh grasshopper.

Tia: now what did I do with that crystal?

Russ: you're up against it.

Tia: no, the other one.

Russ: you dropped it somewhere. Well, while you switch over I'm going to the bathroom.

Tia: maybe you ought to get something for Kiri to drink?

(Tia now has a commentary to add to the tape)

Tia: he's done it you know? He really did smart then, that hurt him. Now let that be a lesson.

(We hear Russ from the kitchen)

Russ: that is a lesson, a great lesson.

(Kiri takes her place in the channeling field with no one else in the room)

Kiri: well, here we are, sitting all by ourself. Where did he go? What's he doing? Hello feline. Did you have fun? Ohhhhhh,
ohhhhhh, ohhhhhh, ohhhhhh. What am I going to do with this?

Russ: she said you asked for a drink.

Kiri: how about putting a dash of milk and put in the microwave? I'll tell you what, I'll do it.

Russ: great, I'll put this on hold...

Kiri: no wait. The thing was that I could.......

Russ: you're coercing everybody in the galaxy.

Kiri: well, the thing was that I was.......I was, I'm not now, I was in a coercive competitions that we have. I beat the competition three years in a row.

Russ: did you now?

Kiri: yes, I held the record for the most wins.

Russ: ahhhhh. That's impressive.

Kiri: I mean, I'm there in the regular school which is part, the private part, the coercers is part of the school. You can look in the trophy room and you can see my name once, twice, three times.

Russ: ahhh.

Kiri: there's only two other people that have beaten me. One person did it four times and the other person did it five times.

Russ: whew.

Kiri: but those weren't all together.

Russ: master class.

Kiri: yes.

Russ: and then some.

Kiri: uh-huh. But they didn't do them back to back like I did.

Russ: I take it they're in the diplomatic corps now?

Kiri: one of them is in the diplomatic corps and one of them has been sent back.

Russ: sent back to where?

Kiri: back to third dimension.

Russ: oh, why?

Kiri: there is nothing worse than a corrupt coercer.

Russ: oh God, especially a good one.

Kiri: yes. And I helped on that to send him back, and it hurt.

Russ: I'll bet, friends of yours?

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: drag.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: well, you learned from that one I'll bet.

Kiri: yes. Learned that when you get corrupt and if he had carried on.....

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: if he had not got corrupted he could have been extremely powerful.

Russ: he get sent back in third dimension during the same incarnation?

Kiri: yes. Doesn't happen very often.

Russ: never heard of that happening.

Kiri: but when you have a meta-concert coercion of about sixty minds.....

Russ: whew.

Kiri: all of them master class.

Russ: whew.

Kiri: Is that correct, master class?

Russ: that's master class.

Kiri: how does it work?

Russ: well......

Kiri: because, it doesn't strike me that master class is that high.

Russ: that's the highest. Well there's Grand Master class.

Kiri: I think that's what we were or would be. Paramount bad ass, paramount Grand Master, that's me.

Russ: good Lord, so is he still there?

Kiri: he's on third dimension.

Russ: trying to make it in third dimension from being on there, that must be terrible.

Kiri: yes.

Russ: well that's the hard part. I mean, from being a person who did the same thing, I can kinda relate to the guy.

Kiri: yeah, almost tore.......

Russ: I mean look at me, I'm still down here on third, aren't I?

Kiri: yes, almost tore our alliance to pieces.

Russ: Jesus.

Kiri: actually, something that springs to mind is Marc Remillard?

(From a book by Julian May)

Russ: yeah.

Kiri: but worse.

Russ: that's what I mean. I mean......

Kiri: whereas Marc's idea was correct in essence, this was not.

Russ: well what do you got to figure though? I mean, just like what I just went through here, he's had to go through something a lot worse.

Kiri: a lot worse. It was master meta-concert mind. If you were to add up the numbers and each one of us was worth probably the power of a hundred if we were a lightbulb, we would be bright, right? You're talking of a lightbulb that would be six thousand thingys, Watts.

Russ: Watts? What I don't understand is if let's say that he's like me, let's say I'm on fifth dimension right now sitting here talking to you.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: how is it all of a sudden he went pmmffpph, and he's on third. Is it like well his body like suddenly disappear and appear here on third?

Kiri: no, no, his body was not quite vaporized but it's hard to explain.

Russ: was it an ex-body, a deceased body?

Kiri: yes.

Russ: that body was no more? That body had ceased to exist?

Kiri: there was somebody else that paid a price as well by being next to them, that volunteered to be next to them.

Russ: what'd that do?

Kiri: well, they have gone up because they paid the price. The needs of the many outweighed the needs of the few. This is an example where making a self-sacrifice could be advantageous.

Russ: chaw, I guess.

Kiri: this girl that was going to.........she was going to have another reincarnation on our dimension?

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: but, when she did that, she used herself as the focus point.

Russ: she was the executive?

Kiri: yeah. Made the conductor snapped which was all planned and she had too much energy and she just imploded taking him with her. And then when his spirit was free we planted a plant down on top of it.

Russ: whoa.

Kiri: yeah, we talk about some heavy stuff.

Russ: man, you guys are some powerful......

Kiri: I was only a secondary, I didn't see much of what was going on.

Russ: lucky.

Kiri: yeah. Because there was quite a few people with nasty headaches and people were crying and I was crying. I didn't enjoy it, it hurt. But the thing is that you don't go against your guild, you don't go against your group.

Russ: wish we figured that out in Atlantis.

Kiri: well if you had, you would've been up here maybe up on sixth or seventh.

Russ: we're still down here on third. I wasn't exactly the best kind of guy to hang out. Mark might've been up on sixth or seventh. But then neither of us would have been here talking with you now.

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: well, he would be.

Kiri: you would be talking to me.

Russ: yeah, but in person as he is now, whereas I'm really just talking as the third person.

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: but thank you for hanging out with me today anyway.

Kiri: okay, yeah I'm glad I could help. So, what's next? Are you feeling better?

Russ: I'm feeling much better.

Kiri: good. So what else do you want to know?

Russ: well, what I want to find out real quick is on talking to my kids today, right? And I was working with them on a thing where they were part of a checking out their traits, seeing what they're good at?

Kiri: okay.

Russ: well, I noticed that they're definitely already good at PK and healing.

Kiri: yeah, here's something that I want to do.

Russ: what?

Kiri: I want Diana and your PK one to breed.

Russ: David and Diana, I love it.

Kiri: D&D.

Russ: D&D. Okay, because......

Kiri: and then their offspring, right?

Russ: well David is also gaining his talent for coercion.

Kiri: yeah, their offspring with Alex....I wonder if they did......I don't know, what have I planned, put my head into?

Russ: I think you've got a lot of time to figure it out.

Kiri: I've been hanging around big sis and Kornas too much.

Russ: since David is so good at it seems like PK......I'm not sure which one is good at coercion, David or Michael. Umm, how would I go about enhancing that with them?

Kiri: at the moment I would wait. At the moment wait, patience, patience, patience,  patience, patience.

Russ: but I mean, they're coming along quicker than I thought.

Kiri: yeah, but don't forget what happened to Tia's babies, huh?

Russ: well yeah, well look what's happening to them now. They're going along real fine without really training....

Kiri: yeah, but let Karra handle the training. She's much better than you are at it.

Russ: true, true.

Kiri: much better than I am actually. I have a hell of a time trying to get Alex to pay attention. I didn't know what I was doing.

Russ: I see you've figured it out since then.

Kiri: yes.

Russ: oh, well that's good to know. How's the ski course going for you?

Kiri: we're working on it, we're working on it. Mark was drawing some plans.....

Russ: taking out that steep curve out after the jump?

Kiri: no.

Russ: keeping that?

Kiri: keeping it. Go on, say it, say it and I will show you what an aggressive coercer can do.

(Russ chuckles)

Kiri: you know what I mean.

Russ: I'll show you what a pair of broken legs looks like.

Kiri: I can whip you any day for it.

Russ: well yeah, I don't doubt it but then, being right at Hades Base.

Kiri: well, I'm also going to be taking fencing lessons.

Russ: oh yeah?

Kiri: how to sell stolen goods. Because I want to start sparring with Mark.

Russ: what, swords hasn't done enough for you?

Kiri: well yeah, with swords but he beats me.

Russ: well yeah, he's had more training than you.

Kiri: he's a lot more wilier than me as well. God, I never could understand. Once he fell down on the ground on one occasion and I'm about to stab like this and he looks like he's had it and all the sudden he goes pheph.

Russ: chee.

Kiri: and I got a sword poking through me. That wasn't fair.

Russ: well that's the whole point. I don't think fair enters into it at any point.

Kiri: yeah, I'd got I had him but I'm like this about to stab down and win the match and all of a sudden he's got me.

Russ: well it's a little trick from Romeo and Juliet. If you had watched the movie you would've picked up on that one.

Kiri: oh, oh well. Wiley dude when it comes to fighting?

Russ: well, who's going to give you fencing lessons?

Kiri: hmm, the only person I can think of would be Mark.

Russ: right, so you got problems right from the start. Tell you what, watch the movie Romeo and Juliet.

Kiri: I know how I can beat him.

Russ: Dino De Laurentiis.

Kiri: I know how I can beat him.

Russ: how?

Kiri: using sex, use my body.

Russ: well, when Mark gets in that mode, there's nothing you can do that will throw him out of that mode, you know that.

Kiri: yeah, true.

Russ: he's very one-dimensional minded when it comes down to that.

Kiri: very singular.

Russ: very singular.




(Kiri is back two weeks later in a new session)

Kiri: well we're only going to do half a meta-concert in the forty-five minutes. When that tape runs out, you guys can adjourn for a few. Okay? Because Rhonda's not feeling very well.

Russ: okay.

Kiri:  uh-huh. Okay, you know what's going to happen Russ.

Russ: I always know it's going to happen, it's called pre-cog.

Kiri: okay, what's going to happen?

Russ: well, we're going to work on a candle flame to try to make it turn left, right, sideways, up and down.

Kiri: okay. Right, but we're going to do is we're going to put Skip in as executive, right?

Skip: all right.

Kiri: we're going to send you the energy Skip and you're going to send it to Russ. Now what we want you to do is visualize or imagine a beam of light coming from you to Russ and feel energy coming from the pyramid and us to you.

Skip: okay.

Russ: uh darling?

Kiri:  uh-huh.

Russ: wouldn't he be then the conductor?

Kiri: that's what I said.

Russ: you said he was going to be the executive.

Kiri: oh, that's what I mean.

Russ: well if he's going to be the conductor I'm going to be the executive.

Kiri: that's right.

Russ: I knew that was right.

Kiri: right, so we're going to do half a meta-concert practice. We're going to act in the capacity of the primaries and secondaries. Where's Linda?

Russ: she's watching "Rainman".

Kiri: oh, she's upstairs, is she?

Russ: yeah.

Kiri:  uh-huh, and what's her frame of mind?

Russ: oh, she wants to watch the movie.

Kiri: oh, okay. Great, I'm trying to organize something and what happens? Hmmpphh. Okay, right, here we go. And what we will do is use a countdown, right? Would go from five and tell you that we're sending you the energy. And then you will give a countdown to Russ and when you get to one, instead of saying zero, you say now and you'll be sending the energy when you say now to Russ. And we will also say now when we send the energy to you, okay? So we're going to get our meta-concert going and this energy should be quite strong because we got Omal acting as a primary and Karra and myself acting as secondaries. So you're going to have a lot of very powerful energy coming at you.

Russ: oh, this is Kiri.

Kiri: who did you think it was?

Russ: I thought it was Karra.

(Russ chuckles at the error)

Kiri: as I learned how to master this thing, watch it.

Russ: oh come on, a little lightening of the mood here I think was called for, don't you think?

Kiri: oh dear, things are getting worse. We have another person showing up. Okay, and so we now have two primaries. So Karra and myself will split between two primaries. Okay here we go, we're powering up.......okay, five, four, three, two, one, now.

Skip: five, four, three, two...............................................................................................

Kiri: okay, break. Okay, now what we want you to do is get your laser scalpel, or not your laser scalpel, your.........

Russ: energy crystal.

Kiri: energy wand.

Russ: wand?

Kiri:  uh-huh. Okay. Now, what we want you to do this time instead of pumping it up, is we want you to bend it, okay? So we go again, right? And we're reassembling up here so..........we done it again, you know?

Russ: oh, I was trying to bend it myself.

Kiri: well, you're pumping it up. You know what we've just done to Mark's astral travel crystal?

Russ: knocked it in the pyramid during the meta-concert.

Kiri: we wiped it.

Russ: well of course it's the second time you've done that.

Kiri: it's the first time I've done it, Tia's done it before.

Russ: oh, you guys share that one, huh? We should share honors I think on that one.

Kiri:  uh-huh. Might as well keep it in now, it's a waste. We've done it before.

Russ: we've had to reprogram the whole thing from scratch.

Kiri:  uh-huh.

Russ: takes about three years.

Kiri: no, only takes him about oh, month to reprogram it. Okay, so here we go. You ready Skip?

Skip: uh-huh.

Kiri: hey, wait for the order Russ.

Russ: I'm waiting, I'm just getting closer.

Kiri: okay. Right.....

(It's at this point Korton jumps in at a crucial moment)

Korton: five, four, three, two, one, now..........................................................okay, break.

Russ: held it.

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: held it better that time.

Korton: okay, that's good. Sorry, we took over, Kiri's out.

Russ: okay.

Korton: okay, let us rest for a few minutes.

Russ: okay.

Korton: greetings Skip.

Skip: good evening Sir.

Korton: greetings Russ.

Russ: hi Omal, third dimension.

Korton: if you insist.

Russ: wish I didn't have to.

Korton: Skip, would you correct Russ in his assumption?

Skip: what's that?

Korton: that he is talking to Omal.

Skip: K.

Korton: he is not.

Russ: oh, Korton.

Korton: thank you.

Russ: right.

(Skip chuckles)

Russ: a common mistake.

Korton: how many times have you made this error?

Russ: I wouldn't get through counting if I could get up that high.

Korton: you'd have to take off your socks as well. Here, borrow these.

Russ: well just everybody would drop dead in here.

Korton: okay.

Russ: hi Korton.

Korton: how is your publication coming?

Russ: oh, well it had to be postponed for the weekend due to a slight inconvenience I was not expecting.

Korton: accidents happen, mistakes are made. How you handle things is what matters.

Russ: yeah.

Korton: patience and impatience are things to learn from.

Russ: that's true.

Korton: you cannot have one without the other. If you have patience, you also have impatience with those that are not following through as quickly as possible.

Russ: that's not my problem actually. My problem is people who make snap judgments and don't see the consequences of it for other people.

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: which is.......

Korton: which can be costly.

Russ: indeed, it can.

Korton: but also patience is needed from it.

Russ: well I've learned patience. It's just.........

Korton: have you?

Russ: yes, as a matter fact. Learning that certain things have to be accomplished because you have responsibility and there is no one but you to take care of them.

Korton: was that the gentleman last week that did a collect call?

Russ: Johnny?

Korton: no but that is an example in itself. What about your friend from Arizona and the young lady that you let call?

Russ: oh yeah, Sandy.

Korton: were you not impatient with that?

Russ: uh-huh.

Korton: so had you learned patience?

Russ: uh-huh. Mostly from having that grind me down. I've learned a lot of patience from that.

Korton: okay. We will proceed once again with the meta-concert.

Russ: all right.

Korton: how are you feeling Skip?

Skip: just fine.

Korton: Russ?

Russ: good.

Omal: okay, what we want you to do this time is reverse roles. Skip, now when you fire the energy out of the firing wand, we want you to hold it thus and fire for approximately ten of your seconds. Now, point it at the flame. We will be monitoring and we will also be supplying energy. Russ, you will be the conductor. You will collect energy from us and you will send it to Skip.

Russ: okay.

Korton: and we will explain why we reversed roles in a minute.

Russ: okay.

Skip: what is my duty?

Russ: you mean between you and Kiri?

Korton: your duty is that you will be firing a light beam. Visualize yourself firing a light beam from the crystal rod that you hold in your hand, with both hands thus and you will fire it at the candle and make it bend, okay? Okay, five, four, three, two, one, now.................................................................

Russ: five, four, three, two, one, now..............................................................................

Korton: okay and rest. Yes, as I thought, you two are much better in the opposite roles when working together. Skip, you are very good executive. Russ, you're a good conductor.

Russ: needs work.

Korton: yes. Sorry, you were overwhelmed with the energy, did you not?

Russ: yeah, well it took me a second to remember I was reversing roles.

Korton: uh-huh. But that comes with practice.

Russ: yeah.

Korton: you can relax now Skip. Okay, let us answer questions.

Russ: okay, what happened with Kiri? How come you had to switch over?

Korton: because it was a strain on her being a secondary and also the vocal link.

Russ: oh, I see.

Korton: she was trying to be a secondary and a vocal link which was making her a very erratic primary secondary which is a link in between which is not necessary. So she was getting very confused and we were having difficulty. That is why we did it twice.

Russ: okay, so your skill as a communicator has helped in.....

Korton: of course.

Russ: bring those two together.

Korton: correct.

Russ: okay. Got any questions?

Skip: nuh-uh.

Russ: okay.

Skip: no, I'm just listening tonight.

Korton: ahh. Yes, listening is a key.

Skip: and I'm learning something.

Korton: uh-huh, which is?

Skip: the difference between patience and impatience. Sort of the bond between them.

Korton: yes, they are bonded together. It is necessary to have knowledge of both before you can achieve patience. Impatience is....

Skip: is wracking me.

Korton: but learning and understanding it is the first step to achieving patience. People profess that they do have patience but they still get irritated by computer problems, problems with employees and so on.

Russ: have you been reading my mail?

(Chuckles all around)

Korton: no, I have been reading your mind.

Skip: my mind's an open book so it's easy to read mine.

Korton: open it. It is sometimes hard for me to not use humor when it is unnecessary.

Russ: okay.

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: all right, now, in as we seem to be focused in on patience and impatience......

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: okay. Now, does age have anything to do with it?

Korton: yes and no.

Russ: I would assume because knowing third dimensional beings as well as I do, I'm sure you with your experiences......

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: we're stuck on the fact that we've only got such a short period of life to live. And so as young, we work on living that life out to the fullest we can whereas you get older, things slow down a bit more, you're able to have more patience, is that true?

Korton: not necessarily. It comes from, or your form of patience, comes from when you were young, where do you live? You live tomorrow. When you are in your middle ages, where do you live?

Skip: for now.

Korton: you live in both tomorrow, now, and the past. When you're old, where do you live?

Skip: in the past.

Korton: and that is one of the reasons why older people appear patient because they remember everything that was but that is also part of the aging process. So, it is necessary to stay young is to live in the now, and the future, and a little bit of the past. Once you live in the past you become the past.

Russ: now would also account for the fact that when you get older you live in the past because you're preparing for your next life and by living in the past you're able to review your mistakes and see where you went wrong so that you're helping to program your next life?

Korton: ummm, yes and no.

Russ: okay.

Korton: you are reviewing your life but you're also suffering, "what if I had done this, what if I had done that?" And that is not preparing yourself for the period of waiting in between.

Russ: what should you do?

Korton: accept it. You cannot change the past, can you?

Russ: not yet.

Korton: you'll never be able to change the past.

Skip: it's gone.

Korton: yes. The future you can change. That is one of the reasons why we talk in terms of probability instead of this will happen or that will happen.

Russ: hmm.

Korton: which reminds me, you are down to two years, and six months, and five days.

Russ: actually, that's a little bit more extended than we had before.

Korton: correct.

Russ: I had it down to two years, three months, and fifteen days.

Korton: preliminary reports from a overactive data analyst......

(Russ laughs)

Korton: is promising.

Russ: good, good.

Skip: but you can change the future.

Korton: correct, because the future has not happened yet. What is going to happen tomorrow? Skip?

Skip: I know some things that's going to happen tomorrow but not all of them. There is no way of knowing.

Korton: what do you have planned for tomorrow?

Skip: I'm going to go to work.......

Korton: uh-huh.

Skip: eat my lunch......

Korton: uh-huh.

Skip: and whatever and go home from work tomorrow night.

Korton: what time are you going to eat your lunch at?

Skip: in my car like I normally do.

Korton: on your way to work.

Skip: no, at lunchtime.....

Korton: uh-huh.

Skip: which is noon our time.

Korton: uh-huh. But supposing you are busy?

Skip: no, I won't be busy during lunch.

Korton: uh-huh. Are you full?

Skip: I'm going to be busy when I get home tomorrow night.

Korton: okay, and tomorrow night you have people coming.

Skip: yeah, supposed to be lots of them.

Korton: uh-huh. Supposing your person of importance that is coming has a flat tire and is late. That is a change in plan.

Russ: person of importance, all right.

Skip: the flat tire or the delay in arriving isn't going to matter that much.

Korton: but it is changing the future that you perceive.

Skip: oh true, true.

Korton: see, even small insignificant things can change the future.

Skip: uh-huh.

Korton: so therefore.......

Skip: but I'll still be busy.

Korton: yes, but it is not a certainty that things will occur in a progressive order.

Skip: no, because you can't control other people.

Korton: that is correct. All the possibilities that there are are many. You have to look at each possibility.

Skip: uh-huh. You can't own other people and you can't be owned.

Korton: correct. Okay, we are going to hand back the to the ring mistress so we shall put it down for a little while. He must get those seen to sometime.......or not.

Russ: or not.

(Kiri returns to answer questions following the practice)

Russ: oh God.

Kiri: uh-huh?

Skip: you got back.

Kiri: yeah, I'm back. I'm ring mistress, I've got Tia's top hat and tails on and her whip. Where's my chair? Keep you guys in order. Okay....

Russ: you couldn't keep us in order if you were a waitress in a restaurant.

Kiri: you want to bet? If I was there in person, I would have you guys ordering what I wanted you to order. Most expensive things on the menu with Dom Perignon champagne.

Russ: Karra taught me a nice phrase today.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: I'm so low I could suck the sweat off of a snake's stomach.

Kiri: yes you are.

Skip: goodness gracious.

Russ: I don't know where she gets her stuff from. You guys don't have snakes on Sirius, do you?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: you do?

Kiri: yeah.

Skip: about as negative as you can get, isn't it? Huh?

Russ: at the time I was.

Skip: don't, please don't.

Russ: well no, that was at the time. I'm pass that time.

Kiri: yes, I think I made a big mistake earlier on, you know.

Russ: hmm?

Kiri: not just with the crystal but with the fire candle there. Do you feel the vibes from that thing?

Russ: I try to ignore stuff like that.

Kiri: wimp.

Skip: and I don't have the sensitivity.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: you're not too sensitive sometimes, do you?

Skip: hmm?

Kiri: yes.

Russ: you seem not to be too sensitive.

Skip: I'm not, I'm not sensitive. Well, I don't know, maybe I am and I just ignore it.

(Skip laughs at that)

Kiri: uh-huh.

Skip: I ignore a lot of things.

Kiri: yes. Well, we have.....

(The phone rings)

Kiri: that's for you Russ.

Russ: of course it is.

Kiri: it's the theater.

Russ: like it'd be for somebody else.

Kiri: uh-huh. So where was I?

Skip: oh, I don't know, about......

Kiri: making mistakes.

Skip: yes, yes.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Skip: it's easy to make mistakes.

Kiri: yeah.

Skip: it's hard not to.

Kiri: uh-huh. Oh yes, I mean this crystal is a prime example of me making a mistake.

Skip: okay, I give you a little bit of a quotation taught to me when I was little boy.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Skip: the person that never does anything is the person that never makes a mistake.

Kiri: uh-huh. That's a very good quotation.

Skip: uh-huh.

Kiri: very good quotation.

Russ: oh, by the way love, I've got to break this whole stuff down tonight. Pyramid, futon......

Kiri: going to hurt Mark a bit, isn't it?

Russ: I've got to warn him beforehand.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: he knew it was coming.

Kiri: oh yeah. Yeah, he knows.

Skip: why, what's going on?

Russ: getting the whole room cleaned tomorrow.

Skip: oh, okay.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Skip: all right, okay. Yeah, I've got to strip out my house and get my carpet shampooed and re-stretched. They're starting to wrinkle up in my house.

Russ: we're doing this room.

Skip: yeah.

Kiri: yeah.

Skip: Darling......

Kiri: you're going to have to go.

Skip: yes I am.

Kiri: okay.

Skip: I've got to get down the hill. 5 o'clock in the morning comes awful.....

(The recording is stopped as Skip heads down the mountain)

Russ: right.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: hey, is Omal coming on tonight by the way?

Kiri: hmm? Yeah, if we can get him on. He sitting outside the pyramid talking to Karra.

Russ: okay, I want to talk to him anyway.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: all right.

Kiri: okay, I'll put him on. I'm the ring mistress, I can do what I damn well please.

Russ: that's true.

Kiri: uh-huh.

(Omal comes on as requested which gets us to the end of the channeling session)

Omal: greetings Russ.

Russ: greetings Omal.

Omal: okay.

Russ: all right. All right, what I want to work on with you is a certain gentleman at work.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: where subconsciously, or consciously, I don't know what, I happened to leave my journal of when we first started this whole nine yards.

Omal: uh-huh and he has read it.

Russ: and he has read every page from start to finish.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and I've got him started in now on "2150"

(A book)

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: good primer there.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and he really wants to know more about aliens......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: badly. But he's a bit immature but he's only sixteen.

Omal: yes, indiscretion. He will be discussing it with his friends at school.

Russ: right.

Omal: he will be behaving in a way that is very immature.

Russ: right. So, how do you handle a situation that requires diplomacy, delicacy, discretion with someone who is just too young to understand those concepts yet?

Omal: first of all, don't overestimate him.

Russ: okay.

Omal: expect him to blab. Expect it to get around to people you know that don't know about this. How do you handle that?

Russ: well personally I don't care.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: you know me, I'm like, "okay, great". Doesn't matter to me one bit.

Omal: what about Mark?

Russ: well that's the only problem with that right now.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: but, since nobody knows Mark except for him, that's no problem.

Omal: uh-huh. Are you sure of that?

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: what about the children of people that work with him?

Russ: what children?

Omal: there are a lots of children that have parents that work at his company.

Russ: yeah, but it wouldn't get across the fact that the Mark I know.....

Omal: is the same Mark.

Russ: is the same Mark. There's lots of Mark's in this town.

Omal: correct. Okay, so that is not a concern. Why are you concerned?

Russ: oh, well what I was concerned about was the fact I'm not worried about him reading the journal, was where I should take it to now.

Omal: step by step, patience. Do not force-feed him. Let him make up his own mind. Let him proceed at a slow pace because first of all, he has to learn a form of patience.

Russ: well that's why I stuck him on "2150".

Omal: uh-huh. That is a good key.

Russ: let him work on that, let him digest what exactly higher consciousness abilities that aren't common in man are all about.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and then what I'm thinking I'm going to do is work with him on bringing his abilities out in himself first.

Omal: what abilities do you think he has?

Russ: not one at all.

Omal: uh-huh. So he is totally latent.

Russ: completely and totally latent.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: but, the one thing he does have, which doesn't count as an ability but I am always astounded by it, is his artistic ability.

Omal: creativity.

Russ: yes, it's just incredible.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: he comes up with stuff off the top of his head he draws out is just awesome.

Omal: yes, so he is a manifestor.

Russ: that would make sense, yes he is.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: okay. Latent but.....

Omal: yes, and it shows forth in his creativity. Mark's manifestation ability shows forth in his poetry.

Russ: hmmm, mine shows often pennies.

Omal: yes.

(Russ chuckles)

Russ: okay, so I'm going to work with him slow on this.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and so spotlighting the fact that he has creativity..........

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: is something I can take advantage of in helping him work with that a little bit.

Omal: correct.

Russ: okay, good. That'll work.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: ummmm.....

Omal: there's some very strange energies still floating around, residual energies.

Russ: well that's going to be hanging around for a couple days.

Omal: yeah.

Russ: we'll go on. All right, now, on a research subject I'd like to address for next weekend.......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: or next week on Tuesday is the correlation between Jewish mysticism, Egyptian science, and religion........

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and the Gypsies.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: I'd like to see what the combinations between all those three are. I know a little bit about the Jewish and the Egyptian because we discussed them before.

Omal: uh-huh. But there are links between all three of them.

Russ: correct and I want to try to research those links and need your help..........

Omal: okay.

Russ: and hopefully come up with some kind of connection.

Omal: correct.

Russ: I think it's important.

Omal: it is.

Russ: oh good.

Omal: okay, I will have to depart.

Russ: okay.

Omal: live long, prosper.

Russ: thank you Omal.

Omal: and I'll be back.


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