Archivist Notes: It was a long time coming but the channeling session for the month of September is epic for the singular reason Sananda first gives his first channeling to our group. It wasn't a long visit and we'll explain in more detail but this was all about the rest, the teaching and knowledge we learned from the other speakers as well. Kiri is a good example and even though she wasn't the ring mistress, she takes over for Tia and helps me with a design of an energy device that utilized crystals, a copper tube and copper wire. It led to a prototype we still use on occasion. Her sister was next in line to talk because Mark had hurt himself accidentally and so Karra was letting me take on the healing this time. Between some crystals and her help, I worked on Mark's leg to give it some relief he was to see a doctor soon. It was during the transition between speakers that Sananda made his entrance which caught Tia by complete surprise. He only came to ask questions in what seemed to be a test of our worthiness to search as one of the voices for the command but it appeared we passed the test. Omal follows on after Sananda though he has to be sure not to give too much away with the head of Ashtar Command in the room. With the differences lightworkers were making in the culture of the planet, persecution for their ideals was discussed as to how mitigate the effects. He reminds me it is a necessary evil. Side two brings on his reminder of the light and the dark, yin and the yang that make up our world. Also, a lesson on time travel and one on parallel worlds. Tia returns to talk about the new Atlantis while Kiri ends the session to help further with some more energy device designs. Now, let's go into greater detail of what took place.

   The night started off normally with no insight into how important it would be beforehand. Kiri stood in as ring mistress due to Tia feeding her and Mark's triplets. That turned out not to be a bad thing as I had some design questions for Kiri regarding an Atlantean power rod I planned to make. Just crystals and copper, it was as simple as it could be yet a prototype I made later still functions in directing energy to this day. We also worked on other devices designed to capture and direct subtle energies for a variety of uses. Kiri was able to help determine how to alter its design for different purposes depending on the type of crystal used in it's construction. Next, Karra and Kiri meld their minds so that Kiri manipulate Mark's body while Karra could focus on the healing about to happen on Mark's leg he had injured accidentally. For this healing, Karra would shadow my while I did the healing under her mental directions. She helps in healing me from the effects of working with such high energies before we get into our normal question and answer session. From it, we learn that was one of the reasons for Karra to join the Sirian Defense Force was so she could learn how to protect her family should there ever be a need. Channeling next was the head of Ashtar Command making his first of two appearances in the archives. Sananda was Jesus in a former life and it's apparent he has lost none of his ability to be in the moment. This was a time for him to quiz me on my psychic abilities and how I was using them in society in general. One question was morality test on how would I deal with making a decision that would kill the person having to carry out a task I would ask them to do to save everyone else but them. Having seen "Wrath of Khan", the answer was easy. His last question was the best as it was almost an interview where he asked where would I like to work once ascended. That was also an easy answer as I would want to definitely be assigned to Hades Base. Finishing up the side was Omal who explains that as the light and dark forces meet in the future, its a required part our advancing from the third dimension. The lessons that would come from the astonishment, confusion, misunderstanding, persecution as he puts it, would be a result of the widening gap of those with mental abilities and those who don't. We here at the Hades Base News say bring it on.

   Side two continues with the Omal's back to cover a number of subjects. At the time of the recording, I had one of my classes going and I hoped a student of mine would benefit from a light and sound device I had ordered which was designed to help astral travel. He also explains how the various groups of the Galactic Federation interact in that one group may be just the thing for some humans to learn from while another may appeal to a different group of humans. It's all to our benefit and growth of consciousness. These were all part of a series of questions I had broken into two parts. The rest of part one consisted of getting answers to conspiracy theories going around on the web and the forces of night and day battling each other constantly. Both sides required to keep pushing the individual to improve no matter the dimension. If all is peaceful and harmonious, what's the point of advancing on from that? Part two of my questions concerns time travel, parallel universes and hopping between dimensions. He explains how you can't move items backwards in time without causing paradoxes but that you can move forward in time with the right technology. He uses the time Kiri was pregnant and was able to speed up her delivery time by moving between dimensions to a time ahead by way of the fourth dimension to where she cannot exist in that dimension. They also could travel faster than light which would have an effect on time speeding up for those making the trip. We move on to the shield they had erected over my house at that time because of the possibility of abduction and how it would have been impenetrable had there been a threat but that shield has long since been removed. Hopefully it never had to be used and we'll never know one way or the other if it had been needed. He had a Council meeting to attend where the heads of various bases had gathered for their annual meeting which took place every ten years. I had to attend one once in my astral form and it is intimidating to be in the presence of so many higher dimensional individuals who each commanded many thousands of beings. He leaves to join the others as the meeting's so Tia comes on to get her time in. The first question is on those who are able to be one with nature and the animals that would fell comfortable around them. She explains that there are such people that are able to generate a feeling a love for all animals. We next go over how one would become closer to a crystal to help with learning. She suggests time spent with it to feel its being. A question about a pyramid they had over Tia, Mark and Kiri's apartment on the base and the smaller one here in third dimension cues a question that needs Kiri to answer. I take advantage of her engineering knowledge to work on pyramid upgrades and then discuss the sudden appearance of Sananda and its effect on Tia when he showed up. We finish up the tape sharing our impressions of a very enlightened being.                 
           
In love, light, and wisdom as one,
Russ and Karra
                                     

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SIDE ONE


(Kiri starts off a very special channeling session)


Kiri: yeah, dude?

Russ: hi Kiri.

Kiri: yo.

Russ: yo. How you doing darling?

Kiri: oh fine, fine, fine, fine, fine.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: yeah, me and big sis are going to be working together.

Russ: okay, sounds good.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: got the crystal.

Kiri: good, good, good, good, good. So, first of all, let's get any questions you might have for me out of the way.

Russ: okay, in that case I'll need the use of your eyes. Thank you. Okay....

Kiri: no guests tonight?

Russ: I'm sorry? Okay, I'm going to show you a couple pictures here.

Kiri: oh, is it naked ladies?

Russ: haven't you seen enough naked ladies in your lifetime?

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: I have to agree.

Kiri: yeah, that's one up on me dude. She's going to be back tomorrow.

Russ: cool. Okay, two things. First, is called a healing rod or a power rod........

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: for all practical purpose, this is the finished product here.

Kiri: yeah, uh-huh. It's better to have it this way up. Now what's this?

Russ: that is the process of making it.

Kiri: no, this part.

Russ: same thing as this only with two crystals instead of a cap.

Kiri: okay, but this is all bound up together.

Russ: right.

Kiri: so, what's.....

Russ: in other words, this would be with one crystal and a cap with leather thongs........

Kiri: so this is a crystal here, right?

Russ: no, that's a copper tube.

Kiri: copper tube, okay.

Russ: oh, what's it say here? Quartz crystal, copper pipe.....

Kiri: which one's that?

Russ: copper, that's the tube here.

Kiri: okay.

Russ: B, B would be the copper tube....

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: A would the crystal, D would be the cap, C would be the wrapping of it.

Kiri: okay.

Russ: this is the final prototype when you're done.

Kiri: okay.

Russ: okay. Number two is the finished product. This is how it goes together. Leather strap, silver disc and a crystal. There's the finished product.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: that is a crystal headband.

Kiri: for what function?

Russ: to wrap around your head.

Kiri: to do what?

Russ: to enhance psychic communication.

Kiri: ahh, telepathy.

Russ: right.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: okay now then, according to the book, the power rod operates on the principle that subatomic particles are gathered within the copper tube.......

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and thought process pushes them out through the crystal into a controlled beam. It's what's called a psionic projector.

Kiri: okay.

Russ: your thoughts on the engineering of such a thing being as there are no moving parts.

Kiri: engineering, very simple, very primitive, very useful.

Russ: how so?

Kiri: how so?

Russ: well first do I understand, third part?

Kiri: very useful?

Russ: first off, does it work the way it says it does?

Kiri: it depends on what sort of crystal you're going to use.

Russ: okay, let's start with that.

Kiri: okay, if you use an energy crystal, it's good for energy supply and direction.

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: if you use a farsighting crystal, one that hasn't been shaped to the perfect shape, which is more this shape, right? You can use it as a directional beacon to fire and then you ride down the beam.

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: okay? But you have to be quick. You have to be able to point it in a direction, fire, go into the astral travel mode like in five seconds and chase after it which you expel a lot of energy to catch up with it but once you catch up with it you hold onto it until it burns up its energy.

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: and then by that time you should have recovered enough to use your own energy.

Russ: sort of like a booster rocket?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: another thing that you can do is use it as a healing crystal, put a healing crystal in there and direct the energy from the healing crystal.

Russ: okay, so three very obvious ways to possibly use this.

Kiri: uh-huh and the same with manifesting. If you remember, when we had you zapping things using the big energy crystal there....

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: was it the big energy crystal.....?

Russ: yes, sure it is.

Kiri: yeah, had you feed back by accident, told you not to follow it too tightly?

Russ: right.

Kiri: uh-huh. You could use it for manifestation with a manifesting crystal. Can't use it with a information crystal because you're draining the information. If you were to do it with gold, it would have a higher resonance.

Russ: uh-huh. Well I lost the chapter in this book that tells why the subatomic particles are captured in the first place in the copper tube. I assume this is just basic cosmic rays that we're talking about here?

Kiri: yeah, uh-huh.

Russ: why would they be captured in a copper tube?

Kiri: because the crystals hold them in place. They will drift out the sides but, as they travel linear.....

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: you see? As long as you keep it pointing north, right? It will travel backwards and forwards, bouncing from one to the other. From one crystal to the other crystal.

Russ: uh-huh. What if you just put a copper cap at the end like the one it describes?

Kiri: well, any cosmic rays that are coming in from the direction that you're holding it......let's say you're holding it this way and they're coming from the bottom, right?

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: would be focused down into......in a way you could say that they're captured but they bounce backwards and forwards but they wouldn't because crystals wouldn't hold them in place. It would just be drifting through and be focused down by the pointed crystal.

Russ: okay, very good darling.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: now, I assume that the use of this as far as how good it is depends on how good the sender is?

Kiri: correct.

Russ: okay and how controlled and focused it is. So this would be more potent than just a regular crystal by itself?

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: okay, and it's described as Atlantean technology.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: I'll go with that just because I don't have a better term for it.

Kiri: okay. And you know that I can't confirm or deny....

Russ: and I'm not going to get you into trouble.

Kiri: uh-huh, especially not tonight.

Russ: now, in regards to the crystal headband.....

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: same principle applies except for the fact there is no copper tube to capture anything....

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: why would the silver disc next to your third eye in front or behind a crystal......?

Kiri: silver disc? I don't know why, just a regular crystal would work fine on someone. Silver disc? Maybe for looks, maybe for reflecting energy from the crystal.

Russ: what about a copper disc?

Kiri: no, it needs to be a clear surface in this case if it's being used as a reflector to focus on the crystal.

Russ: so what would suggest is best, just a plain crystal?

Kiri: plain crystal on the side. If you want the looks and using it like a radar dish, radio dish.

Russ: hmm, okay. Now in keeping a crystal next to your body....

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: you can generally be able to work with amplifying your own energy field.

Kiri: yeah, uh-huh.

Russ: so this would work in the same fact that you now  have it next to your third eye, it's amplifying those third eye emanations.

Kiri: yeah. Oh, that's where that crystal is.

Russ: which one?

Kiri: Mark's other crystal, the one that he's cleaning or powering up in theory.

Russ: okay, all right. What about being able to communicate on a worldwide level with a crystal headband?

Kiri: you'd have to communicate with people similarly armed or with people that are of a higher level and are more sensitive.

Russ: okay. Now the last question I have for you my dear....

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: is with the power rod, if you were to focus it toward a color TV with a live broadcast of something somewhere.....?

Kiri: no, that wouldn't work. Focusing it on somebody like your president to energize him, no. Because that is being received, not transmitted.

Russ: okay, well according to the book.......I'll put it this way, it says particles ride down the carrier wave, the microwave radiation in UHF waves.....

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and that way you can send the particles down that feed, up to the satellite and back down.

Kiri: yeah, and the person that's there receiving or filming or picking up the sound from it gets a nasty buzzing sensation in his ears and confusion.

Russ: so wherever the camera is pointed would not necessarily...

Kiri: no, not necessarily because you see what happens is, you're taking a picture, right?

Russ: right.

Kiri: it comes into the camera.

Russ: right.

Kiri: it goes through all the computer and all the internal mechanism and is sent to the transmitter. At that point it becomes a VHF, UHF....

Russ: sent up to the satellite then.

Kiri: TNT, whatever, becomes that frequency.

Russ: right.

Kiri: yeah, Omal started me off on that last week. It's his ESPN nonsense?

Russ: okay, because I was going to try it tomorrow with the O.J. Simpson trial. See if I can get someone to scratch their nose.

Kiri: in a hot, stuffy room with lots of smelly people that are sweating, I think it would be pretty easy to get someone to scratch their nose like that.

Russ: that's why I think it would be fun to try.

Kiri: get OJ.

(Russ laughs)

Kiri: orange juice.

Russ: all right, well if it works you'll be the first one to know because Karra will tell you.

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: okay, well that was my last question I promised and I'm going to hold to that promise.

Kiri: you can get away with it with me but not with Omal. Okay, just in case. And when that's finished, we'll pick him up again.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: okay, going for a mind link.

Russ: okay.

---

(Karra and Kiri now work together in sharing Mark's body)



Karra: fuzzy around the edges beanpole but apart from that it's a good link.

Russ: good, excellent. Hi darling, because you're cute and beautiful at the same time.

Karra: thank you.

Russ: I don't know how you do it.

Karra: what surprised me about tonight was that Tia was feeding the Cubs and she wasn't participating. Do you know he beat me bare brained?

Russ: yeah well, tough questions.

Karra: okay.

Russ: okay.

Karra: big healing crystal please.

Russ: all right, right arm is broken?

Karra: why can't tell all that without getting in closer because the monitor just gives the energy and the auras and everything so we're going to have to probably get in and feel it. Now, I've got to get this relayed through Kiri as Kiri has more feel so there's going to be a little bit of a time delay. Now nobody's told me what he did.

Russ: kicked this chair here in front of me.

Karra: what did he do that for?

Russ: he wasn't paying attention.

Karra: well, Kiri's whispering something about communication devices being needed to be answered.

Russ: well?

Karra: well it's definitely swollen. Nice shade of color. I think it might be advisable to get one of your earth doctors to bind it up.

Russ: he's going to go at lunch tomorrow.

Karra: I wouldn't say that it's broken, it's more compressed. Without getting closer I can't really see that.

Russ: I think he just did it to practice our healing techniques.

Karra: somebody else probably did it for him. No, I should say it's more compressed. It's a possible break, it's hard to tell on the monitor. Possible, okay let's see what we can do for it. Right, Dr. Russell. Okay, now I'm not going to direct you, I'm going to see if......and I want you to tell me out loud what you're going to do.

Russ: okay. First off, I'm going to go ahead and direct the laser scalpel....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: into the broken area. But while I'm doing that, I'm going to be directing energy into it and pulling energy up from the main healing crystal to connect where I'm at to work on that from two directions at once.

Karra: okay, that sounds good.

Russ: thank you. That's a lot coming from you.

Karra: yes, it is a little amusing. Okay, go ahead.

Russ: okay.

Karra: seems like the natives are restless tonight.

Russ: it's Joey?

Karra: no, the natives, they're beating their drums out there.

(Karra begins to hum "Greensleeves")

Karra: okay, you've been trying to make your own energy focusing stand, haven't you?

Russ: well of course.

Karra: like the one we've got in our apartment.

Russ: well, we can't have you be having the only one around.

Karra: take out that crystal and put this one in.....

Russ: okay.

Karra: and sound it.

Russ: okay.

Karra: and put your hands on either side like this, feel the energy.

(Kara rings the Tibetan bowl with Kiri's help)

Karra: much more potent energy isn't it?

Russ: I'll refrain from using profanity at this point.

Karra: I think you came very close to it.

Russ: well yes actually. One more time.

Karra: no, hit it harder.

(Russ hits the Tibetan bowl)

Karra: see, it goes on a lot longer if you hit it harder. A lot more potent energy wise. That's the one that you should've had in there, not the energy crystal.

Russ: oh, man.

Karra: feeling a little bit giddy are we?

Russ: right back on the old jaw bone there, popped my ears.

Karra: okay now, do you have questions for me?

Russ: well first off, is he going to have to take this in to get it worked on?

Karra: it might advisable.

Russ: okay.

Karra: it's more of a compression than a break.

Russ: okay, how did you do that?

Karra: does that feel a little bit better? I'm not going to take all of it away because it is a reminder on how potent the energy is. It's a sympathetic vibration.

Russ: oh. Why does it work on your head like that though?

Karra: because of the cavities. How many times have I got to tell you about the cavities dear?

Russ: well, the big cavity between my ears.

Karra: you're too hard on yourself sometimes.

Russ: sometimes I have to be so I can keep myself in focus and not get to overheaded.

(Kiri breaks in to the conversation)

Kiri: focus dude, God.

Russ: all right.

Kiri: coolness, ride the wave, curl.

Russ: I wish I could, I miss it. Okay my dear, now then.....

Karra: don't you enjoy it when we do that?

Russ: of course I do.

Kiri: yo.

Russ: how can you......

Karra: uh-huh, get two people in the same time in this body? We don't. We're just curled up in the energy field up here.

Russ: ohhh, how cute. I wish I could get a disc of that.

Karra: pity you can't get smells as well.

Russ: okay, how can you help differentiate the fact that a great healer can also be a great warrior?

Karra: opposites and equals, the yang and the yin.

Russ: uh-huh. Well, it seems like though it's a......what's the word? It's not supposed to work that way.

Karra: but it does.

Russ: okay, because it would seem like being able to fight is the opposite of being able to heal.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: and so it would seem like one would stop the other. It's like you either have one or the other.

Karra: sometimes there's a dysfunction that.......it's like some doctors on your planet, they love surgery and they like the sight of blood. It's the same with some healers, they love their job and sometimes they feel out of place when they haven't got anything to do so they go out and make their own healing capabilities or healing work.

Russ: hmm.

Karra: like someone else I know.

Russ: okay so, for myself, would it be advisable to also learn more things that would help protect myself and others?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: okay.

Karra: what is.........let me put it this way, supposing we.......how many is there? There will be one, three, four, five.......supposing our little family, all seven of us came down here, right?

Russ: right.

Karra: and we got into a situation where there was a riot.

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: and what's important? To defend the children.

Russ: yeah.

Karra: but what use would you be if you don't know how to defend? It's no good going in there with all that aggression to beat hell out of people to defend us if you don't know how to use it.

Russ: hmmm.

Karra: that's why I joined up. That's why I was a soldier, although admittedly a medic.

Russ: I wouldn't want to arm wrestle you.

Karra: you'd beat me.

Russ: no I wouldn't, you'd slaughter me probably.

Karra: it's all in the wrist my dear.

Russ: I know, that's why you'd slaughter me, you've got longer arms than I do.

Karra: evolution.

Russ: indeed.

Karra: evolution.

Russ: okay. Now one thing I was discussing with Kiri the particle rod or the power rod thing.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: if you had two, one for healing, one for energy......

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: you could effectively take one with you where you needed to go and use that as a.....

(Kiri breaks in again)

Kiri: yeah, make a small portable one.

Russ: right.

Kiri: good idea huh, dude.

Russ: right duddette.

Kiri: I was about to say, get the gender right, otherwise she's going come down there and belt you one of these days. Or when you come up she's going to break things of you.

Russ: just so she can put them back together.

Karra: I'd have to put them back together.

Russ: okay, now then, I'd like to discuss a little bit about radiation.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: and I'm not talking about the radiation that is harmful to you, but the radiation that is given off by each living person.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: I guess we would call it life force.

Karra: yeah.

Russ: okay? And being able to determine that life force.

Karra: you may want to bring that up higher.

Russ: okay? And being sensitive enough to be able to train to feel the life force for that radiation.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: so that you can interact with others and know how to use the right kind of radiation when working with them.

Karra: well, when people give off energies concerning their moods.....

Russ: yeah.

Karra: oh thank you, thank you sweetie pie. You take care of me, don't you?

Russ: I try.

Karra: oh by the way, we've got usage of the pyramid when we need it.

Kiri: no you don't, not this week.

Karra: okay, it will have to be next week.

Russ: okay.

Karra: okay, where was I? Oh yes. Now, when people are giving off negative energy.....

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: negative radiation, when they're in a mood......

Russ: right.

Karra: you can feel it and you know how to interact to change that mood, do you not?

Russ: yeah, right.

Karra: when somebody's giving off depressed energy, that they are feeling down, miserable......again, you can interact with that and the same with happy energy and aggressive energy and uninterested energy. I'm just saying energies as a catchall.

Russ: right.

Karra: so that you know how to interact.

Russ: okay.

Karra: QED.

Russ: absolutely. Good, and then that way you can be able to work with it in whatever way you need. And using the power rods as I was mentioning, you are affecting that radiation being given off by that person.

Karra: two. Sorry, yes.

Russ: yeah, right. Okay good.

Karra: I had somebody's finger in my ear.

Russ: sounds like fun.

Karra: anyway she's got to behave herself.

Russ: uh-huh. A lovely birth by the way.

Karra: hmm, I thought so.

Russ: she looked so cute.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: okay.

Karra: when she has more, it will be easier for her.

Russ: well one thing I've noticed is that I have a connection to Miranda, it's closer to yours than it is to Alana's.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: why?

Karra: because it's your first daughter.

Russ: yeah, but I don't have that with Michael and David.

Karra: but they're not daughters. You still think very third dimensionally about daughters.

Russ: you mean females being more sensitive?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: well that's probably just a hangover from being in third dimension.

Karra: yeah. I wouldn't worry too much about it.....

Russ: okay.

Karra: it's good. Actually, it's not only a third dimensional behavior, its sixth too.

Russ: sixth? Okay.

Karra: because I've got to confess that dad sometimes spoils me a little bit. I'm his little girl even though I'm about an inch taller than he is, I'm still his little girl.

Russ: that's understandable.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: okay so yes, last night with the fireworks in other words. I was seeing more Miranda's mind than I was yours almost.

Karra: she's a curious little individual.

Russ: right, and that's what amazed me so much is the fact....

Karra: well it's all new to her. You remember how our terrible twosome were so interested in everything their first 48 hours out of the womb and then it dropped off, didn't they?

Russ: right.

Karra: as they started to learn how to manipulate and control their various bodily movements and functions to maximum effect.

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: Miranda will do the same.

Russ: I think she'll do it a little bit longer than 48 hours though.

Karra: hmm, maybe.

Russ: okay and the last question I've got is in this healing with the LS device coming up....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: and working with that to increase my healing capabilities.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: we need to work on a tape of some kind or another the start this off.

Karra: no problem, no problem at all. We'll do the same night. We'll do an astral travel one....

Russ: okay.

Karra: on one side and on the other side a healing one.

Russ: all right, perfect.

Karra: thirty minutes tapes might be advisable.

Russ: I should have some around here.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, great. Thank you darling. If I can, I'll try to get up there, I got late night ahead of me tonight.

Karra: yes I know.

Russ: see you in a little while.

Karra: I'll be watching.

Russ: okay, if I do, I'll probably catch you when you're sleeping.

Karra: ohh I'll be asleep in bed.

Russ: pretending to sleep no doubt. Okay, I'll pretend to wake you up.

Karra: I think I might build a pyramid over the bed. We'll have to probably have to sleep in another room Russ until I get it worked out.

Russ: okay.

Karra: nevermind, let me work on it.

Russ: okay, fair enough. Have fun, see you.

(Kiri breaks in one last time)

Kiri: me too dude.

Russ: okay darling.

---

(Tia returns to bring on a surprise guest)


Russ: hi Tia.

(Tia says hi in Durondedunn)

Russ: how you doing love?

Tia: fine, fine.

Russ: good, good, good, good, good.

Tia: okay.

Russ: okay.

Tia: I'm going to put myself on last for information purposes.

Russ: okay.

Tia: uh-huh, because I think you're going to enjoy tonight.

Russ: oh good.

Tia: see you later dude, have a fun one.

Russ: bye love. I'll do my best.

Tia: please.

---

(Sananda comes on to asks me some questions)


Sananda: good evening Russell.

Russ: good evening Omal......I take it? No?

Sananda: let us proceed.

Russ: okay.

Sananda: okay, I have some questions for you.

Russ: all right, fire away.

Sananda: how do you see your capabilities involved in your modern society of your dimension?

Russ: I see them as an extension of Ashtar Command actually. As my abilities get more refined as also with Mark's, I see the interaction that I have with my fellow humans help them to increase that consciousness around me and hopefully it will spread out exponentially from that.

Sananda: and how does this interact with Ashtar Command?

Russ: well due to the fact that the training I'm getting is directly from Ashtar Command. I'm basically working from that base of knowledge and so anything that I work on from here on out will be an extension of that.

Sananda: okay. How would you personally best use the healing capability that you have? What function would you prefer to use it for?

Russ: hmm, actually two ways when you think about it. I would probably say in the first part in training, teaching, trying to help others learn what I've learned and let them take it from there and let them spread the word also. And the other way in my personal healing, working with people who come to me who want to be healed so that when they're healed, they'll be because they know I'm using my own energies and other tools around me instead of having to go to a doctor. I think that will help out their mindset and those that they come in contact with.

Sananda: okay, now here is an interesting question for you.

Russ: okay.

Sananda: you have a patient, you are a doctor, you do not have to worry about your silly laws. What would be more important, saving an arm or a leg?

Russ: if I had a choice between the arm or leg? I would save the leg or I mean I would save the arm.

Sananda: you do not sound sure.

Russ: no, because we have a wheelchair and they can get around in a wheelchair but as with an arm, well that's a tough one. No, I think I'll change that. I'd say save the leg because an arm, you can do everything that you want with one arm but you can't walk around with one leg.

Sananda: okay, now, here is an even harder question.

Russ: okay.

Sananda: you are aboard your recon vessel.

Russ: uh-huh.

Sananda: you have a crew of five under you, you are the captain. Your chief engineer is Marta. You have an engine problem that only one person with the knowledge can fix but, there is a radiation leak. What would you do?

Russ: I would send the person with the knowledge in to fix it. Because the lives of the many are worth far more than the lives of the one.

Sananda: okay. Last question.

Russ: okay.

Sananda: where would you like to work?

Russ: you mean right now, as in my present third dimensional....?

Sananda: no, where would you like to work?

Russ: I would love to work on fifth dimension, work on Hades Base.

Sananda: okay, thank you.

Russ: my pleasure.

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(Tia gets us over to Omal now)


Russ: hi Tia.

Tia: whew, okay.

Russ: Mark doesn't seem too worse the wear for that.

Tia: sorry?

Russ: Mark doesn't seem to worse for wear for that.

Tia: what do you mean?

Russ: energy wise....

Tia: hmm.

Russ: take anything out of him?

Tia: no more than would be expected.

Russ: okay, that's good. Okay.

Tia: enjoy yourself?

Russ: oh yes.

Tia: uh-huh, I almost peed my panties.

(Russ laughs)

Russ: you would.

Tia: he just walked in.

Russ: ahhh, I can only guess at who that was but I have a pretty good guess.

Tia: okay, let me hand you over to the next person.

Russ: all right.

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(Omal takes us to the ens the side of the tape)



Omal: greetings Russ.

Russ: greetings.

Omal: how are you functioning?

(Russ laughs pretty hard at that)

Russ: doing very well actually.

Omal: considering.

Russ: considering.

Omal: okay, you have questions for me I understand.

Russ: yes, I've got quite a few questions as a matter of fact we missed ourselves the last time.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: I'm going to a two-parter due to the fact that I'll go from the stuff that I had and then go to stuff that I have.

Omal: okay.

Russ: that was a tough last question too.

Omal: hmm.

Russ: because I wanted to say earth but given a choice, I'd rather be on Hades Base. Because there's not enough problems on earth right now to leave.

Omal: okay let's have your guess on who you thought you were talking to.

Russ: Sananda.

Omal: correct.

Russ: because Ashtar would have said good evening Mr. Hatfield.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: Sananda would have said good evening Russ.

Omal: Russell.

Russ: Russell, right. And Korton and you would not.......well you would've said it like that. That's why I said Omal at first.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: but when he started asking questions it's easy to tell who it is, you don't ask questions.

Omal: not very often, no.

Russ: not very often, no. Well good, I'm finally glad to meet the gentleman.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: get a little bit of knowledge. Okay, questions, here we go.

Omal: okay.

Russ: okay. Now, this is a two-parter right here. With the year 2000 approaching, all right? The gulf is widening between operants and non-operants.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: now is persecution a high probability......?

Omal: yes.

Russ: it is. Okay, because I was assuming that possibly the government or the National Enquirer made that kind of unlikely due to the disbelief factor in there.

Omal: no, when it becomes accepted that there is. First of all, it will follow these simple patterns. Four, astonishment, confusion, misunderstanding, persecution.

Russ: okay. Now the second part of this, is the psychic friends network and the influx of metaphysical magazines has brought consciousness changes and so the key to keeping the persecution from happening hopefully is acceptance and letting people see that you can be normal and psychic?

Omal: what do the average person think? Let me rephrase that, it was terrible grammar. What does the average person think about the psychic friends network?

Russ: it's kind of a joke?

Omal: yes. It is advertised as for entertainment purposes only.

Russ: right. But in my personal view, it seems like it's a doorway at least....

Omal: to some.

Russ: where there was none before.

Omal: Karra, was commenting about the natives is quite correct, they are restless tonight.

Russ: I can't even hear it. Well Mark's hearing is more sensitive than mine is.

Omal: yes, and we are hearing through amplified.

Russ: that would make a difference. Okay, now, is there a way to shunt off the persecution factor in the future?

Omal: the more you delay it, the longer it will take to heal.

Russ: okay and do we have a estimated timeline for all this to happen?

Omal: no, not yet.

Russ: okay.

Omal: as you might say, the votes are still out.

Russ: okay. Now, I'm doing a little research lately on the various space missions that have gone up to the moon and in Apollo 12, we wanted to follow the moon landing, a thunderbolt hit the spacecraft and put out bunch of power systems they had to reroute and click back on one by one.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: prior to that they had seen a couple of spaceships.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and it's assumed that possibly the thunderbolt came from the spaceships. If that is true, since I won't ask for confirmation, why would anybody take a hostile view to another moon landing?

Omal: if I answer this question, it will be confirming.

Russ: oh, you can't theoretically answer it.

Omal: no.

Russ: okay, nevermind.

Omal: because whatever I say will be taken.....


            
SIDE ONE ENDS

SIDE TWO


(Omal gets right back on topic)


Omal: ......I say, will be taken as possibly the correct answer even though it is theorized.

Russ: I see. All right, we'll skip that one then.

Omal: one does have to behave oneself when one's boss is around.

Russ: one's boss' boss. Understandable, all right. Well we'll go ahead and we'll cut off that pattern for a while and go to something completely different. Now, you recall Michael of course?

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: okay. Now, being as that's such, do you think that he has a chance of benefiting from the LS device that's going to be arriving and if so, how to present it so that he gets the most benefit from it?

Omal: hmm, that's a tricky one. A mind that wants to be open but is shut and will not be shut until it is proven hard and fast facts. Somebody that quests and is prepared to offer anything but yet will not give anything. That is hard, hard to answer. Yes he would benefit from it if he would open his mind.

Russ: would it help if Mary Jo learned how to use it first so that he found then a reason to why he would want to benefit from it?

Omal: possibly, possibly. It is necessary to pursue many avenues before coming to the correct one. Don't I sound like a poet?

Russ: yes you do. Well I'll try to present it to him in a technical sense if I get that chance.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: he might be more responsive to a technical view of it. All right, here's one we'll see if we can back a little bit to where we were before but hopefully not in the same vein. The Pleiadian connection.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, now there is many points of view that the groups that are coming from the Pleiadians are of a friendly nature.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: are they connected with Ashtar Command?

Omal: they are connected with Ashtar Command in the way that the Arcturians are connected with Ashtar Command.

Russ: I see.

Omal: as we are connected with other groups. We work in conjunction. It is a little bit like your group of nations that work together. Sometimes we disagree, sometimes we have different goals. But we are not an organized group such as your state of nations. We are each independent groups with our own specific goals that we wish to achieve.

Russ: does sound like our nations whole thing.

Omal: the fact that we get together and try not to tread on each other's toes and try to second-guess each other is a complement to the evolving species that have joined us and that we have joined. We do have individuals from many different planets and solar systems that work independently between the various groups. It is necessary for them to work independently for the fact of their learning ability. That maybe the Pleiadians are better suited for one individual as we are better suited for another individual because we have different goals. Although there are goals that overlap, we try to work together but we do not exchange information unless it is vital to the other groups that are involved and vice a versa.

Russ: that's always a good way to do it then. Well thought up. Okay, there is such a thing as a laser but now what would be the theoretical existence of what's called a mazer?

Omal: a mazer, I do not understand the word.

Russ: me either. It's something that came up in a book that I'm reading and I've never heard it before.

Omal: is it a fictional book?

Russ: no, well it's the same one I was talking to Kiri about, about the power rods from Atlantis and such.

Omal: hmm, perhaps it originally had a different name. What does it look like?

Russ: it doesn't say. It just says the advent of lasers and masers in U.S. arsenals.

Omal: maybe it has an A in front of it?

Russ: well, I have to admit that laser is short for light....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: so mazer could possibly be matter or......

Omal: it is possible that it is some sort of matter weapon.

Russ: or magnetic.

Omal: or particle.

Russ: particle then, that's possible too.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: matter would then be particle.

Omal: yes.

Russ: okay, I'll work on that later. All right now, the questions on adversarial ELF beams, extra low-frequency.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: could it conceivably trigger the San Andreas Fault?

Omal: it depends on the resonance that is produced.

Russ: okay.

Omal: you would have to penetrate deep to the weakest point where the most tension is. You couldn't trigger it in one point because there would be not enough pressure for it to be used with a minimal amount of energy.

Russ: I see. Well it said that such a beam was deflected and the deflection caused it to set off the Mount Saint Helen's eruption. Now it's hard for me to picture this but if it was the right frequency I suppose there is a theoretical probability of such.

Omal: yes, but it would have to be in an area where there is seismic activity or lack of activity. Where there is a buildup in pressure underneath the crust of the planet where there is a buildup of magna. You see, all these things would have to be together for the ELF waves to have their desired effect.

Russ: so theoretically that could happen if all the conditions were right.

Omal: were right.

Russ: but the odds of it are low.

Omal: yes.

Russ: I see. Okay, that's something to think about. All right and could there be an ultra consciousness or guardian working to achieve peace on this earth?

Omal: yes, it is very likely and probable.

Russ: oh, we're talking about Sananda.........on a theoretical basis of course.

Omal: no, something else that I have in mind.

Russ: oh, what's that?

Omal: a group consciousness.....

Russ: hmmm.

Omal: that has its own free will that desires peace and harmony. But, there is the other side to it.

Russ: the opposite end of the coin.

Omal: yes.

Russ: so the two working would be like night and day?

Omal: uh-huh, you cannot have one without the other.

Russ: why not? I mean balance obviously but....

Omal: exactly.

Russ: it would seem it's pointless then to even have one if you have to have the other.

Omal: well the way that it works is that the group consciousness desires peace, harmony.

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: and the group consciousness also doesn't want harmony, it wants chaos and confusion. The reason being, if you have peace and harmony, where do you go?

Russ: sixth dimension.

Omal: no, you go nowhere. You do not learn. Everything is given to you, everything is peaceful and relaxed, there is no drive.

Russ: sounds great.

Omal: it is stagnant.

Russ: but man always wants to improve himself.

Omal: exactly, that is the other side.

Russ: oh, the drive.

Omal: the drive.

Russ: and that can't be peaceful and harmonious?

Omal: if it's peaceful and harmonious, what is the point of trying to achieve for better?

Russ: oh, I see. Because you've already got it, what's the point of going further?

Omal: correct.

Russ: you reached nirvana, heaven....

Omal: or that you see it as that.

Russ: right. That's deep.

Omal: you cannot have one without the other.

Russ: that's really deep.

Omal: so by having these two forces, call them night and day, right? The struggle between them, the friction that is generated creates the drive to improve, to stop one, to help the other.

Russ: so it's two actions.

Omal: yes, it is necessary.

Russ: that's the way of everything, even up on sixth dimension.

Omal: correct.

Russ: and further.

Omal: and higher.

Russ: all right. Okay, now before we get to part two, how much time do you have?

Omal: how much time do you need?

Russ: I'm on to part two and part two is longer than part one.

Omal: how much recording time do you have?

Russ: I've got six tapes sitting up there if I had to go to six tapes I could.

Omal: okay.

Russ: okay.....

Omal: I do not know if the body could take it.

Russ: I don't think so either.

Omal: or our last speaker has the patience.

Russ: is he still there?

Omal: Sananda?

Russ: yeah.

Omal: no.

Russ: okay.

Omal: but we do have a Council meeting that I am due to attend in about 25 of your minutes.

Russ: okay, well it will take less time than that.

Omar okay. Let's say, do you have 15 minutes of tape left?

Russ: easy.

Omal: okay, I have to attend a meeting with other base commanders. We are hosting, you might call it an annual meeting although it is every ten years.

Russ: oh, that's kind of nice. All right, now first off, in something I was mentioning to Mark the other day is that if you had an alien race and you wanted to place the perfect operative on a......

Omal: yes, breed them into the planet.

Russ: breed them into the planet so they would have citizenship and a language and all that....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and will work at whatever you need them to do even unconsciously. What a perfect way to do it. It's and so hard to get out of Ashtar Command.

Omal: we have stated that before.

Russ: indeed you have. Okay, I just thought it was funny it came up that way in this book I was reading. Okay, onto part two. First off, what subatomic particles are cosmic rays composed of?

Omal: energy from other stars and I believe we discussed this a while back actually.

Russ: but we didn't break it down to particles as far as......I mean we have electrons and things like that but do we go deeper than that?

Omal: it is not worth discussing the lower levels but it is atoms and particles from many things.

Russ: oh.

Omal: supernovas that have exploded and the energy expelled by them, starships that have blown up, decaying stars that are falling to pieces because their gravitational field is no longer strong enough to hold them together, many, many things.

Russ: okay, so none of which would really come into being as far as......actually they would but I'll get into it after I take care of building a power rod.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: we can start looking at it from a more practical point of view as far as the results of such a thing.

Omal: yes.

Russ: okay, now, can you confirm whether subatomic particles can move backwards and forwards in time?

Omal: they can move forward in time as you move forward in time.

Russ: they can't go backwards?

Omal: no.

Russ: okay.

Omal: you see, to travel backwards in time, what would be necessary is to take that let's say atom out of circulation, travel it backwards in time and reinsert it. There's a slight problem here.

Russ: hmm?

Omal: if you take an atom let's say that is floating around......there.

Russ: right.

Omal: and you take it back a thousand years.

Russ: right.

Omal: and you reinsert it into time, what happens?

Russ: you have one more atom than you're supposed to have for that particular time.

Omal: which can't occur.

Russ: right. Because all matter from that thousand years ago is still here in this thousand years later on.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: you couldn't increase the matter without causing a chain reaction.

Omal: correct. So what you would have to do is take one particle from a thousand years ago, one atom from a thousand years ago, move it forward in time to now, take one out and bring it down. You can't do that.

Russ: what a waste.

Omal: you can't do that because the very atoms that make up your traveling device.

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: so instead of having one atom, you have many billions. Can't do it.

Russ: so in other words, so this answers the second question which is, you couldn't be in two places at the same time.

Omal: no, but there is an interesting little catch here.

Russ: oh.

Omal: you can travel backwards in time.

Russ: you can?

Omal: yes, to a different dimension......not dimension, universe. A parallel universe.

Russ: because they wouldn't have the same matter.....

Omal: exactly.

Russ: in that one as you would be inserting into it.

Omal: correct.

Russ: but that would only do you any good if you wanted to see another dimension.

Omal: don't forget, some are so similar to yours that there is no difference whatsoever except maybe slight difference in pigmentation of skin.

Russ: that's true.

Omal: and that may be so unnoticeable that you wouldn't notice.

Russ: so it might handy so you could look at the past and what happened...

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: but it might not be the past.

Omal: correct.

Russ: it might be slightly different.

Omal: yes.

Russ: okay.

Omal: it might the fact that Gen. Ulysses S. Grant was not called Ulysses, is it Simpson? Well let's say he was called Simpson.

Russ: okay.

Omal: Ulysses Simpson Grant may have been called Ulysses Simon Grant.

Russ: oh I see.

Omal: or Simpson spelled differently.

Russ: which still could make a difference, it wouldn't be a true, historical fact.

Omal: oh yes you would, it would be almost identical apart from maybe a slight difference in spellings of places like Gettysburg. It might be Gettyburg.

Russ: right.

Omal: so trivial.

Russ: it's very interesting though.

Omal: or Gettysburg might be four inches off from where the center of the town is.

Russ: yeah, good point. Okay, now, there is such a thing then as mental control of subatomic particles.

Omal: no, not really.

Russ: so if I have a thought beam or a thought I wished to project......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: through let's say this power rod I was discussing with Kiri.......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: wouldn't I then be affecting the subatomic particles within.....?

Omal: no, you would just be borrowing their energy.

Russ: oh. And so what would be powering my thought? Those subatomic particles then.

Omal: yes, and you.

Russ: and me. Oh, so it would be my energy and their's and it would be amplified?

Omal: yes.

Russ: I understand, thank you. Okay now, in a related question to that, can you speed up or slow down time, the results of it? Since time is relative. In other words, for example.......if I wish to let's say get a nickel, okay? Now, my abilities to do so would be sped up if I had better abilities? So I would get it in five minutes, where if my abilities weren't that good, I get it in five weeks kind of thing.

Omal: it is easy just speed up and slow down time or appear to. You can be watching something on your communication and entertainment devices, right? And you do not notice that an hour has elapsed.

Russ: yeah, definitely.

Omal: or, you could be watching something and looking at your watch and going, "I wish this was over. I wish I could get up out of this theater and attend to my customers that will be wanting to go into the next performance".

Russ: absolutely. So it's all relative to your perception of time?

Omal: yes.

Russ: time does not speed up or slow down.

Omal: I must give credit where credit's due to Karra.

Russ: yes, she knows my mind very well. Okay, so it's perception of time that would speed up or slow down?

Omal: yes, uh-huh.

Russ: I see. Time actually doesn't speed up or slow down.

Omal: no, time is not a constant. It can be bent, it can be slowed and sped up but by artificial means or natural means.

Russ: well I mean just because I'm watching this movie and I'm bored and time seems to be going forever.....

Omal: that is your perception.

Russ: someone else in the theater who's loving the movie.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: time is flying by for them.

Omal: yes.

Russ: but we're all experiencing the same time.

Omal: correct. But time is not linear.

Russ: it's not?

Omal: no. There are several ways to speed up time.

Russ: oh.

Omal: and that is using gravitational masses.

Russ: oh, so that's beyond our control now?

Omal: yes.

Russ: I see. But it's possible in our future.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: okay. Next question is, did you and ourselves and everyone that I and you know create most of the known universe?

Omal: hmmm, sorry, can't go into that.

Russ: okay.

Omal: because two things, it would be my opinion, it would open it to discussion which would be tinted with my emotions or your emotions. It would be subjective from our point of view.

Russ: oh, I see.

Omal: okay.

Russ: okay.

Omal: it would take up more time than I have.

Russ: that's a key question.

Omal: yes, save that one for a later time when we can sit down and have a discussion on probabilities and theorize.

Russ: alrighty, I'll be glad to. Okay, now then, being......and I'm speaking here from theoretically knowing how the Council sometimes works and being as you are a part of the Council, maybe you can answer this one. Now being as the Council hates leaving jobs unfinished or half finished....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: I assume then I'm then helping to complete a mission that was begun long ago?

Omal: yes. Time is irrelevant when you have all the time that you need.

Russ: ahh, indeed. Again, we are stretching the time and speeding up and slowing ourselves down.

Omal: yes, traveling forward in time is quite simple.

Russ: how so?

Omal: you just travel faster than the speed of light, space warps.

Russ: so that really is true then? It's not fictional or science-fiction?

Omal: no, no. Going back to a incident over a year ago where Kiri took a trip.

Russ: right.

Omal: she used the jump between dimensions to gain time.

Russ: really? That goes back though to the question of how to not go back in time, don't we have the same problem going forward in time?

Omal: no.

Russ: you're putting new mass....

Omal: you're taking them out of circulation. Take them out....

Russ: yeah.

Omal: and moving them forward. There is a period of time where they do not exist.

Russ: so that mass doesn't exist already even though it's in the future because it's uncreated of course.

Omal: correct.

Russ: you can insert anything you want because that mass is not there yet.

Omal: that is why Kiri couldn't go back to the sixth dimension until after she'd given birth.

Russ: oh, I see, because she's already there.

Omal: correct. But now she can of course.

Russ: that's pretty funny though.

Omal: it's been about a year since she's been able to travel backwards and forwards in that dimension.

Russ: that's a cute way of putting it.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: okay now, in using clusters of crystals at the compass points, will it enhance the current shield around our house if it's still there? Or should they be set to the points of the period?

Omal: I wouldn't worry too much about the energy field around your house.

Russ: okay, it doesn't need to be enhanced?

Omal: no.

Russ: okay, I won't bother with that.

Omal: you can pass through it, radio waves can pass through it but if we wanted, nothing could pass through it.

Russ: oh.

Omal: and all's it would take would take is a twist of the wrist.

Russ: but for other people, would this theoretically working on your crystal shield....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: for somebody's house who doesn't have the benefit of ours?

Omal: yes.

Russ: it would help for them.

Omal: to a certain extent yes.

Russ: if they had the mind power to create it?

Omal: correct but it would only work whilst they were in the premises.

Russ: well that might be enough for them.

Omal: uh-huh, a feeling of comfort.

Russ: uh-huh, okay.

Omal: why does Carrie need this?

Russ: well this is just theoretical for anybody who might come across it, it's just for general knowledge.

Omal: ahh.

Russ: okay now, working with carrying the double terminated crystal around, will that enhance my personal shield?

Omal: if you believe that it will, it will supply the energy. If you do not believe, then it will not.

Russ: oh, good point because thoughts are empowering the crystal.

Omal: correct.

Russ: okay. Now, would nuclear or particle weapons if used on earth set off a chain reaction between us and other planets in our solar system and if so why?

Omal: only if there are hostile forces on those planets.

Russ: oh, okay. According the book of course that I read. Apparently if we use nuclear weapons and we blew up our planet, it would cause a chain reaction with each planet in the solar system would just blow up.....

Omal: now.

Russ: right down the line.

Omal: you would blow up your planet, the debris stays in orbit on your planet in your....in your plain.

Russ: so would become another basic asteroid belt?

Omal: yes.

Russ: for somebody else farther down the road to figure out why there's a second asteroid belt out there between Mars and Mercury.

Omal: uh-huh. Mars and Venus.

Russ: Mars and Venus, right. Okay, in fact I'll make this my last question. Thoughts can trigger subatomic particles to attract desired items like a magnet, would this be similar to working with manifestation?

Omal: no, not really. What happens with particles as they pass magnets they get bent slightly. Sometimes it is so minimal that it is only recognizable after they have traveled a million light-years.

Russ: oh, I see.

Omal: and then it is only a fraction of a degree.

Russ: black hole or something out there.

Omal: yes.

Russ: I see.

Omal: gravitational masses do have that effect. It depends on the size of the mass of the gravitational effect.

Russ: oh I understand. So our basic thoughts can be in that way but just depends on how you use them.

Omal: yes.

Russ: okay, great. Enjoy the Council meeting.

Omal: if you call that sort of thing fun, I will enjoy it.

Russ: I would, I would have a great time but I never been to one except for that one.

Omal: live long, prosper and, hopefully I'll be back.

Russ: okay.

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(Tia is back to get in her time speaking)



Tia: Karra told me not to do that.

Russ: good call, good call. How's the foot?

Tia: feels hot.

Russ: that could be good.

Tia: could be bad, nevermind.

Russ: it will get fixed tomorrow.

Tia: yeah.

Russ: what a session.

Tia: I had to go and change.

Russ: wore me out. How's Mark's energy level?

Tia: actually, I should say it's probably down to about 35%.

Russ: two more to go.

Tia: two more to go? Oh, yeah.

Russ: okay. Well my dear, working with animals and insects.

Tia: incest?

Russ: insects.

Tia: oh, okay.

Russ: the new Atlantis, those who have the energy within themselves to walk among nature, at peace with all around them. Animals and insects like birds that land on your shoulders and animals come up to get nuzzled or something like this. Are there such people on this earth?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: how do you become such a person?

Tia: by generating the right smell. By being so totally unconcerned with animals that it doesn't matter. By being able to communicate with a feeling of love for all animals. I don't see any felines around here.

Russ: there are none but wait, there is one.

Tia: which one is that?

Russ: we got Oddball under the chair over there.

Tia: ohhh, negative, negative cat, I'm going to pounce on you pussycat.

Russ: now, in training to do this, you have to have the right mindframe.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: and to achieve the right mindframe, does it take years of practice.....?

Tia: yes.

Russ: it does take years of practice.

Tia: years and years and years and years and years and tears.

Russ: and fears. Best to start with just your regular cats and animals around you that you're more comfortable with.

Tia: yeah, uh-huh.

Russ: okay, it's not a matter of coercion, it's just a matter of energy.

Tia: coercion does help I suppose but I don't know because I don't have any coercion.

Russ: I don't know about that.

Tia: it's because I'm strong-willed. And besides, they don't have coercive capabilities, well not worth mentioning anyway. What they've got they've inherited from Mark. We have used that as a threat of punishment, split them up, they hate it. They behave themselves afterwards.

(Mark and Tia's triplets)

Russ: well that's good. Hey by the way, any projections have you heard from on the genetic base now that Miranda's been added to our little subgroup here?

Tia: I haven't been informed yet. Besides, she's too young to have kittens.

Russ: well so is yours.

Tia: yeah I know.

Russ: well, doesn't mean it's not a future possibility.

Tia: all down many, many probabilities. The future's always in motion.

Russ: true. How can I become more sensitive to the energy emanations of crystals?

Tia: hmmm, open your mind, feel one. Pick one up, be its buddy.

Russ: grab one here?

Tia: smile at it. Feel its energy, feel its light, feel its being, feel how it warms your hand. Feel its sides, get to know it.

Russ: how do you get inside of it?

Tia: you don't want to because they don't appear........they appear as they want to appear if you're inside them. Or so I've been told.

Russ: okay, well that's all I have for questions so we can talk about general junk.

Tia: okay. What do you want to talk about?

Russ: okay, let's see now. What have you been doing lately, you hunting?

Tia: no, I haven't had time. Don't forget, I had a tribe of kittens and cubs over at my place.

Russ: that's true.

Tia: running amok, breaking one of my vases.

Russ: how come your girls couldn't PK it out of the way or something?

Tia: because the girls were outside pulling the wings off of a butterfly.

Russ: oh please, you trained them well I guess.

Tia: it was all right, Alex just came out and manifested the wings back on.

Russ: I like the boxing glove incident.

Tia: uh-huh, he's going to be a little peacemaker you know.

Russ: yeah, I think you're right.

Tia: uh-huh, yeah. But she was being very, how would you call it? Miss I am, my idea.

Russ: well don't girls go through that stage.....

Tia: uh-huh. A little miss.

Russ: well, it's just part of growing up.

Tia: what did she say? "I'm big girl now". Well she is the oldest.

Russ: yeah, she is the oldest, she wants to feel like......look who are mom is.

Tia: yeah, what is it? She's 2 1/2 now I think.

Russ: yeah. All right darling, what you want to talk about then? I'll leave it up to you since I keep on hitting walls here.

Tia: I try hard not to but you keep on picking on things that I can't discuss.

Russ: well that's why I'm trying to go through general stuff.

Tia: okay, what we might have to do for your astral travel tape.....

Russ: okay.

Tia: is break it up into sections instead of doing it all all in one go.

Russ: right.

Tia: do it over a period of time so that you get it all nice, prim, proper step-by-step.

Russ: well you know that I'll be using it in conjunction.....

Tia: with other things, yes.

Russ: with other things. So I can use it on one side, stop it.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: and go on to that same side later on and add onto it.

Tia: yeah, but when you're recording it, you'd have to probably record the information I give you, take it out, put it to one side, insert it back in so that there isn't any gap. What might be useful is background music too. Something like Enya.

Russ: oohhh, that's....

Tia: something nice and dreamlike and floaty.....

Russ: I'll use that great pyramid stuff.

Here: drifting off into the wild yonder.

Russ: that's a great idea, great pyramid flute music.

Tia: see, I'm a smart kitty.

Russ: no one would accuse you otherwise.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: cool, good idea.

(One of Tia's cubs Athena says something in Durondedunn)

Tia: sorry.

Russ: that's all right love.

Tia: yeah, it's only Athena.

Russ: okay.....

Tia: hold on, I gotta put her down before she wriggles off and causes trouble and starts crying and you have that in the recording instead of her just......

(Tia repeats what was said in Durondedunn)

Russ: that should be fun. How's our tape doing?

Tia: okay.

Russ: God, we still got a ton of tape. Why? I don't know. That part took a long time with Omal.

Tia: well Kiri's still here, you got any questions for Kiri? She's messing with the kittens, Cubs.

Russ: well I've got five minutes of tape left.

Tia: oh well.

What: I suppose we can save it for later or something.

Tia: nah, let's use it all up.

Russ: okay, sounds good.

Tia: you guys got a little garden area back at your place?

(At Karra's apartment she was assigned as an ambassador)

Russ: yeah.

Tia: but it's open to the public isn't it?

Russ: if the public wanted to go back there, I suppose so.

Tia: yeah, I was about to say, you could make a pyramid and then you could fence it no, that would be acceptable either would it?

Russ: what, put a pyramid like what you've got?

Tia: yeah.

Russ: well, we could do it. We could put one similar to what we've got here only in a different form.

Tia: uh-huh. Well ours is twice his size of this one.

(a six-foot pyramid that we had constructed over the futon Mark's body was on)

Russ: well we could do it twice the size, the trick is......I guess it doesn't have to be weatherproof.

Tia: no, ours is though. We have got a thing that pulls up over the top of it.

Russ: now tell you what, can you relay a question to Kiri for me?

Tia: I can do better than that, I can put her back in.

Russ: all right, toss her back in real quick.

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(Kiri wraps up the session)


Russ: hi Kiri.

Kiri: yo.

Russ: a question just came up that I just got reminded of that I thought I could ask you.

Kiri: uh-huh?

Russ: remember the picture I showed you, that energy rod, right?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: what if you were actually to put one on the crown of that pyramid facing up?

Kiri: it would look ugly. It's a bit like a conducting rod.

Russ: right. What would be the results of such a.......I don't care about looks, results....

Kiri: it would be worth experimenting with.

Russ: so instead of capping it....

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: just go ahead and leave it uncapped....

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: and fasten it to the top so it pointed up with the crystal pointed up to the top.

Kiri: yeah. You could make something a little bit like a four pointed.....

Russ: okay, what if you were to pointed down instead?

Kiri: it would be sending the energy down.

Russ: right. So the energy would go up the sides....

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: collect at the point, go in through the tube.....

Kiri: well it depends what function you want to use it for.

Russ: well that's the question. What would be the results theoretically of such a thing pointed downward?

Kiri: not as beneficial as pointing up.

Russ: why?

Kiri: because pointing up you can use it for many things. You can use it as a beacon, you can use it to send energy out, you can use it in the astral form, right? To go up, focus the energy to fire it off and then to grab hold of that energy and go..............

Russ: because it would be a constant stream.

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: you could fire it up like a booster rocket.

Kiri: uh-huh. Or if you're quick enough, you could actually sit on top of it instead of holding onto it. Which means that you wouldn't expel any energy whatsoever.

Russ: but the energy is constantly going.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: all you could do is enter the stream, right?

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: and let the stream push you.

Kiri: uh-huh. But don't forget to put on your leather hat and goggles and your oxygen mask.

(Both us get a bit silly at this point)

Russ: ready for takeoff, that's affirmative.

Kiri: sorry, I did not quite understand that.

Russ: you got your hand over your face.

Kiri: why are you making silly noises?

Russ: okay. So in a sense, keeping that cap as removable instead of gluing it on might be a good idea.

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: just for the purpose of testing stuff out to see how it works.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: that's fair.

Kiri: don't you think that was a fun little session?

Russ: that was a fun session. I especially like the part where Sananda came in.

Kiri: yeah, he isn't as loud as Ashtar is. He's much more peaceable and quiet.

Russ: well that's what kind of surprised me.

Kiri: and not as abrupt.

Russ: I was expecting somebody even more like Ashtar. Instead, it sounded more like Omal.

Kiri: hmm.

Russ: maybe that's what happens when you get up to that real high dimensions.

Kiri: yeah, he just walked in nice and casually and sat down and Tia almost wet her panties.

(Russ gets laughing hearing that)

Russ: that would be fun to watch.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: well I can tell that Sananda is definitely somebody who was always in the moment.

Kiri: uh-huh. Knows exactly what's going on from second to second to second.

Russ: yeah, his mind is not elsewhere when he is speaking.

Kiri: oh, you'd be surprised.

Russ: that's true. I suppose you could be in three places, four, five different places at once if you had to be.

Kiri: oh yeah, it wouldn't surprise me if he was.

Russ: okay, well, very impressed with him I have to admit.

Kiri: uh-huh. Very well mannered. I've never met him before until that point.

Russ: really?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: yes you did. Oh, I guess you didn't.

Kiri: no, big sis has.

Russ: oh, I was thinking of that one party where you jumped in the pool.

Kiri: no, he wasn't there.

Russ: oh, okay.

Kiri: that was a purely Sirian function and I wish she hadn't told you.

Russ: did you like my joke though?

Kiri: which joke?

 
THE TAPE ENDS