SIDE
ONE
(Karra fills in as ring mistress
while Tia is busy)
Karra: okay, how’s everybody going?
Skip: just fine darling.
Russ: excellent.
Karra: okay, now Tia is a little tied up at the
moment settling the children down as is Kiri. Okay,
where do I start?
Russ: you’re the ring mistress, start wherever you'd
like.
Karra: okay, let us look at healing.
Russ: okay.
Karra: okay, let us look at tonight’s healing and
the energy use and how everything went. Okay, first
of all I would like to say that we were monitoring,
I hope you didn’t mind.
Skip: no, not a bit.
Karra: okay, going to critique a little bit here.
Okay, you did the right thing by talking to the
young lady to start off with…..
Skip: uh-huh.
Karra: you did the right thing by asking the correct
questions.
Skip: uh-huh.
Karra: what you should have done, what you needed to
do as well is to as you’re talking and as you’re
getting to know the young lady and find out what’s
ailing her, you also need to observe the energy
flow. Feel the energy coming off. You charged
yourself up which was good however, because she was
giving off energy, it kind of overwhelmed you to
start off with hence the reason for the sudden
increase in perspiration and the heat. Now, do you
know how to sense if somebody is giving off energy?
Skip: no I don’t.
Karra: okay, it’s quite simple and it's something
that we should have covered. When you’re standing
near somebody, let me put up my hand……let me charge
Mark’s hand up…..okay, he’s now giving off energy.
Now come close and just reach out gently so you’re
not quite touching. Okay, can you feel the energy
coming off of the hand?
Skip: no.
Karra: okay. Relax your hand and just gently do this
with it, you should be able to feel energy. Okay, it
should be a warm, kind of wavy-type feeling.
Skip: no.
Karra: okay, here’s another way, shake hands. Okay,
can you feel the heat?
Skip: yeah.
Karra: okay, you can relax. That’s energy being
given off…….
Skip: uh-huh.
Karra: okay? When somebody’s hands are cold, it
means that they're trying to draw energy in. Now
there is normal heat in the hand, which is normal,
Russ’ hands are at the normal heat at the moment.
Skip: uh-huh.
Karra: the host’s hands are charged up and they're
giving off excess heat which is the energy being
given off. So the thing to do is shake hands. You
can hug but the most important thing is if
somebody’s giving off, the tell tale signs is heat.
Skip: uh-huh.
Karra: if you can’t feel heat, shake their hand.
Skip: okay.
Karra: if it’s warm, warmer than it should be, they
are giving off energy.
Skip: okay.
Karra: very, very simple, very easy to remember and
something very easy to forget.
Skip: uh-huh.
Karra: okay, now when you came down here to the
magic room......okay, you went through the correct
procedure of getting her to sit down, to relax and
you talked to her for a few minutes to get her nice
and relaxed and then you started the healing, that’s
good. Now when you finished, you need to get her to
kind of pull energy back in. You’ve gone through the
healing, you’ve gone through the ball supply from
the pelvic area up through the chakras, all the way
back out and you've looped it and you've done all
the correct things. The person is amped, energized….
Skip: uh-huh.
Karra: okay? It can be a little bit overwhelming and
it can kind of shut down the person. I’m saying can
kind of because sometimes they don’t.
Skip: uh-huh.
Karra: in her case I noticed that she was a little
bit more subdued afterwards. Okay, what you need to
do is get them to relax for a moment and do simple
deep breathing exercises at the end........
Skip: okay.
Karra: 10 deep, 10 shallow. You can do a cycle of
two and if they’re having difficulty breathing as
she was in her case, it helps to get more oxygen
into their system which in turn calms them down and
gives them the opportunity to regroup and to be more
centered.
Skip: uh-huh, okay.
Karra: okay? Those are the only things I can
critique on, you did a good job.
Skip: thank you darling.
Karra: uh-huh.
Skip: now, I have a question.
Karra: okay.
Skip: evidently, I have allowed my mind to block my
physical adeptness…..
Karra: uh-huh.
Skip: in becoming or being what I call or consider a
complete man.
Karra: okay.
Skip: and how do I go about this healing myself?
Karra: first of all, don’t worry about it.
Skip: okay.
Karra: okay now, worry and stress are the two
biggest problems.
Skip: okay.
Karra: uh-huh. So there’s something that is worrying
you that is making you stressed.
Skip: hmm, shouldn’t be any more.
(Skip starts laughing)
Karra: also, maybe you don’t feel comfortable with
the right woman?
Skip: now that’s possible......
Karra: uh-huh.
Skip: that could be possible.
Karra: after all, you’re not exactly a juvenile
delinquent that will jump in bed with any young
lady.
Skip: you got that right.
(Skip laughs again at that one)
Karra: so you’re much more selective and the thing
is you're stressing on something. You're stressing
on impressing your lady and you’re worrying about
making her feel comfortable. Be yourself, don’t
worry about it. I know it’s hard not to worry, but
worry and stress are the two main factors. So when I
say, don’t worry about it, I mean, don’t worry about
it.
Skip: well my job was a big stress and worry before…
Karra: uh-huh.
Skip: now I have since then eliminated that.
Karra: that’s part of it. Also something else that
has been covered in your popular press, is……..you’re
not going to like this……..
Skip: go ahead.
Karra: it’s my favorite pet peeve which is? Russ?
Russ: smoking.
Karra: uh-huh. Nicotine can suppress the ability.
Skip: uh-huh, okay.
Karra: uh-huh, that’s your choice.
Skip: yeah, I understand that, I understand that.
Karra: uh-huh. I mean for some people it is a
benefit in a way it decreases the size.
(Ed. note: she is referring to the inflammation
caused by colitis)
Skip: uh-huh.
Karra: now for some people, it is a benefit.
Skip: yeah, okay.
Karra: but that is also possibly a factor.
Skip: okay.
Karra: okay?
Skip: uh-huh.
Karra: next question?
Skip: no, you satisfied me, go ahead Russ.
Karra: uh-huh.
Russ: I’m wondering if with Skip being a healer why
he’s not picking up on the energy put off by hands.
Me, who’s getting to be a healer, can pick it up in
a heartbeat.
Karra: sometimes it’s something that's very easily
overlooked.
Russ: would it be because maybe he draws in energy
off, or used to, draw energy off and now that has
stopped that, maybe he’s blocked off that area?
Karra: it’s possible.
Russ: how do we fix it or how do we find out?
Karra: well it’s not how do we find out, it’s how do
we remedy it.
Russ: right.
Karra: which I think we’ve just had.
Russ: ahh.
Karra: by the simple shaking of the hand. Now if I
can shut down Mark’s body from giving off energy, I
mean I can see the heat rising off of him, his whole
entire body at the moment. If you run your hand down
his arm, you should be able to feel the heat coming
off of him. Can you feel the heat?
Skip: uh-uh, no.
Karra: it takes a little bit of time to becoming
sensitive to it.
Skip: I may have a problem within myself of be doing
so many years with welding though.
Karra: uh-huh, that’s a possibility that your hands
aren't as sensitive as they used to be.
Skip: because I can stand an awful lot of heat….
Karra: uh-huh.
Skip: in my hands.
Karra: yes.
Skip: so, that might be a problem right there.
Russ: well it might not be a problem, it might just
be something that you need to be aware of.
Skip: being sensitive, yeah.
Karra: yeah.
Skip: because even today I was welding out in the
sunshine…
Karra: uh-huh.
Skip: and everything was just superhot.
Russ: right, so that might be something to think
about anyway.
Skip: yeah.
Karra: a simple remedy to the lack of sensitivity in
the hands is the simple handshake.
Skip: yeah.
Karra: I mean that tells you a lot right there. See
the heat?
Skip: yeah, now I can feel the heat.
Karra: uh-huh, simple remedy.
Skip: but to run my hand over Mark’s body, no, I
can’t feel the heat.
Karra: uh-huh. Russ, run your hand about yea far
above his arm, you should feel the heat.
Russ: uh-huh, yeah, I can feel him.
Karra: uh-huh. So that is the remedy is that your
hands aren’t as sensitive, possibly due to the
welding but by the simple shaking of the hands…..
Skip: then I can pick up on the heat, yeah.
Karra: very, very simple.
Skip: yeah.
Karra: uh-huh.
Skip: okay, question then……
Karra: uh-huh.
Skip: I absorbed energy before this session tonight.
Karra: uh-huh.
Skip: should I continue to do this before I do a
healing?
Karra: yes.
Skip: okay all right, I just wanted to make sure, I
just didn’t want to mess everything up.
Karra: uh-huh. Doing it prior to the meeting is a
standard way of healing......
Skip: okay.
Karra: but sometimes you come across the odd one or
two people that instead of needing energy are giving
off energy even though they need it......
Skip: uh-huh.
Karra: kind of makes it harder to focus the energy
properly.
Skip: well I tried to set her up with the energy
ball within herself plus my energy and I believe it
made quite a difference.
Karra: she seemed to feel more comfortable and
relaxed.
Skip: uh-huh.
Karra: which is the most important thing. Remember
what I said last week about the secret rule of
healers?
Skip: uh-huh. Now why do you think I had her set up
that little light ball?
Karra: uh-huh. We focus the energy for
them.......their energy to heal themselves.
Skip: that’s right.
Karra: and a lot of it is sitting down and talking,
communicating......
Skip: uh-huh.
Karra: making them at ease.
Skip: well I’ve known this lady before this session
tonight, I spoke to her oh, maybe half a dozen
times.
Karra: now what was the joke? When Tia tells me that
Mark was chuckling to himself?
Skip: when was this?
Karra: tonight. Tia’s not giving me much to go on,
she’s kind of singing a lullaby at the moment.
Skip: beats me darling, you’re talking over my head,
okay?
Karra: I will ask her when she comes back.
Skip: okay.
Karra: okay, we will move on to the next speaker…..
Skip: thank you.
Karra: and hopefully I will be returning….
Skip: thank you very much.
Karra: or if not I will be making myself available
on the sidelines for input.
Skip: okay, thank you darling.
Russ: okay.
Karra: okay?
(Omal exchanges places with
Karra)
Omal: greetings and felicitations. Greetings Skip,
greetings Russ.
Russ: greetings Omal.
Skip: evening Omal.
Omal: we have a small crowd tonight, of two.
Skip: we’re enough aren’t we Omal?
Omal: oh yes.
Skip: okay.
Omal: okay, first of all I will simply open by
commenting on Karra’s comments which are very
acceptable. As always, Karra has very good input and
she does love the opportunity to talk as a healer.
There is nothing that she said that cannot go on the
web except for the healer’s secret.
(Ed. note: the secret has already been posted online
in 2017 and so therefore it has been kept)
skip: uh-huh.
Omal: okay, let us move along. Russ, you have a
question, let us get that out of the way first.
Russ: well the Defcon today, the near Defcon.
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: how close and what would of been the steps
taken after that point besides the informing of the
public?
Omal: we would’ve not taking any more steps apart
from advising of the situation. What would needed to
be have done by the public is to be more aware and
to prepare or to put themselves in a state where
they are ready for whatever may come. Now to explain
to Skip, the reasons for the close announcement,
that we did not announce it due to the fact of not
meeting one of the criteria, you have at present a
natural disaster that is going on which is the heat
in your province of California, Nevada and Southern
Oregon. You also have the heat in the state of
Texas, Florida, Arizona and parts of the Midwest.
The expected toll from this is approaching a hundred
deaths in Texas and numerous deaths in other
locations due to the warmth factor. Also, the
drought that has been caused by this in the state of
Texas and the shortness on supplies for cattle, to
feed, for chickens, for egg production, for milk
production and so on. Also what transpired today is
the drop, the third-largest drop in the stock market
of approximately I believe it was 3% of its current
value. I will not delve too deeply into that as Tia
has information on that. If there had been an action
of civil disobedience, even a small one, we would’ve
not bent the rules, but declared a Defcon three
because it met the criteria even though it is a gray
area on whether a small prison riot would have
classified as civil disobedience. It does meet the
criteria but is it significant enough to declare a Defcon three
on a small prison riot with the other criteria
meeting the expected levels? It would be my call. I
honestly cannot say that I would or would not
declare a Defcon
three on just that prison riot if there was one. It
would be a up in the air, how do I feel at the
moment, do I think the situation is going to get
worse? Now, because of the heat wave in the state of
California, you may notice that the lights are
slightly dimmer. This is because there is a power
drain going on as well. Energy has been diverted to
the hottest areas for air-conditioning and so on.
This in turn if it is increasingly hotter, will
become more pronounced and you may have areas that
shut down because there is not enough energy. Now
they will draw energy away from the rural areas that
do not need it as much so it is something to be
aware of. They may even shut down certain areas, do
what they call a rolling blackout, but this really
does depend on how critical the energy problem gets.
Do we have any questions?
Russ: well a rolling blackout is in itself of course
a good key towards civil disobedience……….
Omal: yes.
Russ: as we’ve discussed before. But how well is our
government or even our local governments prepared to
deal with a rolling blackout and any problems that
come up because of that?
Omal: they’re not.
Russ: ahh.
Omal: they would not expect civil disobedience.
Certainly, certain law enforcement agencies would be
certainly paying more attention to what is going on
but they would not expect a riot, they would not
expect mass civil disobedience. The possibility with
increased heat is one or two things. Either people
are too hot and drained to do anything or, because
the power is out, they get angry and frustrated and
decide to do something about it. Those are the two
possibilities. There is no third possibility, it's
either they do or they don’t. So it is something
that is definitely worth watching, it is something
to be cautious of, maybe avoid traveling in unlit
areas until the power comes back on in those areas.
Stay indoors where A, it should be cooler or stay
close to home. Next question.
Skip: doesn’t heat, when we’re talking about natural
heat, doesn't that aggravate and irritate people to
have quicker tempers and flare up faster and get
angrier quicker?
Omal: yes.....
Skip: that's what I thought.
Omal: without a shadow of the doubt, yes. But the
question is, is what has changed between fifty to a
hundred years ago and now where they did have heat
waves that were just as hot and just as long,
however people did not get as violent, what has
changed?
Skip: technology.
Russ: people are more pampered, more spoiled.
Skip: technology.
Omal: exactly. They expected the heat, they expected
the cold, they were prepared. If you look at the
houses that were built fifty to a hundred years ago
that are still used, they are cooler than the houses
that were built thirty years ago.
Skip: uh-huh.
Omal: if you were to turn off the air conditioning
in your abode Skip, the heat would soar correct?
Skip: no, I don’t have air-conditioning in my house
Omal, I use the natural air-conditioning which is a
breeze that blows through my house…...
Omal: ahhh.
Skip: okay?
Omal: okay, but you do see where I’m coming from?
Skip: yes I do, I understand exactly where you’re
coming from. It’s just that my house was custom-made
when it was built and it does have probably three
times more insulation in it than the average built
house today.
Omal: okay, now a common misconception is that
insulation is used to keep the heat in.....
Skip: uh-uh.
Omal: it is used for both.
Skip: yep, to keep the heat out and to keep the cold
out.
Omal: correct, so that you can maintain a constant
temperature.
Skip: uh-huh.
Omal: if for example Russ was to increase the
thickness of the walls within this house, or even
within this room, just double the size of the
thickness of the wall and fill it with insulating
material, the temperature in this room would become
more constant and the same throughout the whole
entire house. Just that, doubling of the thickness
would be enough to decrease the heating bill.
Skip: and the cooling.
Omal: and the cooling bill. I don’t believe there is
a cooling bill here is there?
Skip: well we're talking about examples.
Omal: yes, about examples. So you see that the
weather does affect the moods.
Skip: uh-huh.
Omal: and the difference in between then and now, a
hundred fifty to a hundred years ago, is quite
considerable. Next question please.
Skip: Russ?
Russ: Omal, I have a question for you concerning the
cause of the heat.
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: about a year and a half ago or so we had
discussed the H.A.A.R.P. project…..
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: and other projects going on that were in the
experimental phase at the time…
Omal: no.
Russ: oh, they're in the using phase?
Omal: they were in the experimental and the answer
to your question is or your question is, did they
affect the temperature of the planet?
Russ: uh-huh.
Omal: the answer is no.
Russ: ahh, okay.
Omal: this is a natural phenomenon, it is not
contributed to global warming because global
warming, even though it is not a myth, has not yet
started to affect your planet. Global warming is a
natural phenomenon. Why is it natural phenomena?
Because there are external forces acting on your
planet that is being affected by A, the photon cloud
and B, a normal, cyclical phenomena from your sun.
Your sun, is brighter, it is giving off more heat.
This is a 1,200 year cycle. If you look at your
fossil records, you will notice that there is more
abundance when the sun gets to a particular part in
its cycle. Like the sun has its eleven-year sunspot
cycle, its seven-year radiation cycle, its
1,200-year vibrational or rather intensity cycle
where it becomes brighter and then it gradually dims
back down. You are reaching a point where it is
getting brighter. This is perfectly natural and it
is not as bad as you would think. What is your
impression of your sun getting brighter?
Russ: well it’s part of the cycle it goes through
towards the end of its life.
Omal: but what do you think is the normal reaction?
What would happen?
Russ: well people would panic.
Omal: no, this is a normal cycle.
Russ: oh.
Omal: it is not swelling up and getting bigger,
which is what it does towards the end of its life,
this is a normal fluctuation where it gets brighter
and then dimmer, brighter then dimmer.
Russ: well, nobody would blame it on the sun.
Omal: for one thing, but would it not increase the
earth’s temperature?
Russ: well yeah, of course.
Omal: not quite.
Russ: hmm.
Omal: even though the sun has become hotter, the
winters become colder and wetter. The heating
process pushes warmer water from the southern
hemisphere up, which is…..?
Russ: the El Niño.
Omal: correct. Which in turn does what?
Russ: makes it colder and wetter.
Omal: correct but the sun has become hotter and
drier…….
Russ: hmm.
Omal: you see?
Russ: okay.
Omal: El Niño and La Niña, the two children.
Russ: hmmm.
Omal: next question please.
Russ: Skip?
Skip: wouldn’t that increase our production of food
and so on and so forth by the sun getting hotter?
Omal: if it is used correctly, the wet winters, the
storage capability, increasing storage capability of
water, then yes it would. Certain produce loves the
heat, but also needs the water. Now if it’s drier
and the plants cannot get enough water then they do
not produce as much. But, on the other hand, if you
store water from the wet winter......this winter was
the second wettest winter on record in your state of
California.......if you had stored that water, then
you would be able to irrigate and supply water all
the year around to areas that need it and so
therefore productivity would be increased.
Skip: we got a problem with that.
Omal: yes.
Skip: people don’t want to make any more reservoirs,
they figure we’re destroying the land by making
reservoirs.
Omal: it's a two edge sword.
Skip: yeah.
Omal: I’m not saying that you should, and I’m not
saying that you shouldn’t.
Skip: no I understand that Omal, it’s just that we
got different organizations that every time we try
to make any advancement they've got to put a kibosh
on it.
Omal: yes, I’m aware of that, it is something that
gives me no end of entertainment. In fact I think
Mark has a phrase for them, the granola heads?
Skip: yeah, I’ll go for that.
Omal: next question please.
Russ: okay, just to recap on the year and a half
update on the H.A.A.R.P. project, the results of
that, do we have anything that we can put on the
web?
Omal: nothing to worry about at this time.
Russ: okay.
Omal: okay, last questions from each of you.
Skip: none from me, thank you Omal.
Omal: you’re welcome.
Russ: none from me either, I think you pretty well
covered everything.
Omal: okay, thank you.
Russ: thank you Omal.
Omal: live long, prosper and, see you in two weeks.
(Tia now has her time to go over
what she has to say)
(Tia says hi in Durondedunn)
Russ: hi Tia.
Tia: due to the fact......let me make an
announcement first…..
Skip: go ahead baby.
Tia: due to the fact that Kiri and Karra will be
absent next week, Omal has a Council meeting that he
will be attending which will leave just myself and
the feisty Lyka…….
Russ: well this will be fun.
Tia: and anybody else that I can pull, we may cancel
the channeling session.
Russ: ohhhh.
Tia: just for the week.
Russ: okay.
Skip: all right darling.
Tia: but it’s up in the air at the moment, I may be
able to pull some other people in.
Skip: okay.
Tia: okay…..
Russ: we might have a half tape left I think from
that one tough session.
Tia: oh we can do a short one. Okay, where do I
start? Okay, the drop of 5% today and the overall
drop of 9% in the Dow industrial averages. Is that
bad, a drop of 9% since July 17th? What do you guys
think, 9% bad?
Russ: hmm? No.
Tia: no? What do you think Skip?
Skip: no opinion from me because I don’t watch it.
Tia: okay, why you say no Russ?
Russ: because of the fact that 9% is merely a
correction.
Tia: uh-huh and also, guess what?
Russ: hmm?
Tia: still up 7.2% since December 31.
Russ: oh, there you go.
Tia: so, it’s no biggie.
Russ: yeah, it’s just a correction.
Tia: uh-huh. Okay, Dow dropped nearly 50 points, in
fact I think it dropped over 50 points. Since the
correction has started it has lost over 7% of its
value.
Russ: hmmm.
Tia: still up 14% though.
Skip: well that’s not going to affect anything.
Tia: no, it’s not.
Skip: it won't affect our economy as a regression or
whatever.
Tia: no, it is an indicator on what is going on with
the economy though. Now, you brought up something
very good, the economy. Not even going to bother
about the S&P 500's because they’re up there as
well on the year, even though they were down quite a
bit today. Okay, the economy. They are projecting
for the next two quarters slow growth to a deficit
growth.
Russ: hmmm.
Tia: they’re predicting that not just in your
country but all over.
Skip: hmmm.
Tia: you’ve already seen it in the Orient. The
Chinese have been preaching that they can maintain
an 8% percent growth. Now it’s become more evident
that they’re going to have to revise that look at
maybe a 5% growth or even a 4% growth. That’s not
good.
Russ: hmm.
Tia: they may even end up negative. Now, what is
going on? Well, a few years ago I made the comments
of the stock market acting four years behind, or the
economy four years behind the policies of
governmental officials. I may have been a little bit
inaccurate, it may be as much as six, I’m not too
sure, but let’s say for the sake of argument five
years ago. Okay, five years ago you had a young,
fresh democratic president in the White House with a
Democratic House but they still were acting with
policies made by a Republican president. For the
last year and a half the economy has been booming so
that means what?
Russ: that it's set for a fall.
Tia: no, what it means is that the Republican House,
the Republican White House actually set in motion
the boom.
Russ: hmm.
Tia: now, the policies that were being made at the
start of the administration and the second year into
the administration are starting to come into
fruition. The plans that were laid down, the
policies that were passed whilst there was still a
Democratic majority in the house is now coming to
fruit. Slower economy, they wanted to slow it down
didn’t they?
Russ: uh-huh.
Tia: they’re slowing it down, they’re slowing it
down. They’ve put the brakes on it and it's going
into a slide, maybe even negative figures.
Russ: hmm.
Tia: I hate to say it, but in the next five years,
guess what?
Russ: crash.
Tia: recession, not necessarily a crash, a slow
recession, which in itself is not a bad thing. If
you’re situated with something that everybody needs,
everybody wants…..
Skip: money.
Tia: not necessarily money, what’s more important
than money? Russ?
Russ: entertainment.
Tia: well, entertainment yes, but there’s something
even more important than entertainment. I’ll give
you a clue, in.......I.N. are the first two letters.
Russ: hmm.
Tia: second clue?
Russ: uh-huh.
Tia: I.N.F.. Well I was working on letters of two,
I.N.F.O..
Russ: oh, information?
Tia: correct.
Russ: huh.
Tia: information. What is going on out in the world,
how can I make more money, how can I plan a better
existence?
Russ: hmm.
Tia: information, trading information, supplying
information, collecting information. What medium is
ideally situated for that?
Skip: computers.
Tia: uh-huh, and what setup is ideally suited for
it?
Skip: Internet.
Tia: uh-huh, and who is set up for it?
Russ: me, me, me.
Tia: you’re going to take some bloody hits but stick
with it.
Russ: oh, I’m not giving it up.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: I’m paying rent on it, no way I could give it
up.
Tia: yeah, so you see? You made a good, good choice.
You’re going to have to tighten your belt from time
to time. Now the other thing that you have to do is
be ruthless.
Skip: be what?
Tia: be ruthless.
Skip: okay sweetheart, I’m diversified……..
Tia: uh-huh.
Skip: I can’t be ruthless.
Tia: yes you can.
Skip: no, I cannot, I’m not built that way.
Tia: okay, why not? Being diversified is good as
well.
Skip: well, I’m so diversified it’s ridiculous
sometimes but anyhow, being ruthless, it's just like
the………trying to put together here……..I can’t bring
myself to charge a wage for my labor that
contractors do and yet I still do the same work they
do.
Tia: uh-huh.
Skip: if I could that wouldn’t being honest…
Tia: uh-huh.
Skip: because I’d be taking money away from people
and I can’t do that.
Tia: do you charge more or less?
Skip: less than the contractors do.
Tia: uh-huh.
Skip: yeah, about half of what they charge.
Tia: that is what I thought, you got nothing to
worry about. Because contractors, when the money
becomes tight, people are going to turn around and
go to the person that is not as expensive.
Skip: well they do that right now because I’ve got
an excellent reputation of……
Tia: uh-huh, good craftsmanship.
Skip: yes.
Tia: okay, you are in the ideal situation to gather
information.
Skip: oh true enough.
Tia: because by how they’re coming to you and how
they are giving you information in a very obtuse
kind of way, by listening to them.........for
example walking around the shop, and you're with a
customer and they're saying, "oh, this is expensive,
that’s expensive" and if you remember back that
maybe a couple years ago they would’ve gone, "oh
yeah, that’s what I want" but they're not having it
now because it’s out of their reach tells you what?
(Skip begins to cough a bit)
Tia: that they’re having a hard time with their
finances.
Skip: right.
Tia: now one or two people doing that is normal and
expected, everybody goes through a hard time. But,
if it increases, that more of your customers are
saying that, then you can relay that information to
the appropriate sources, then they can plan
accordingly.
Skip: uh-huh.
Tia: you’re trading information.
Skip: yeah, I got you.
Tia: uh-huh.
Skip: but being ruthless, that’s not in my makeup.
Tia: why would a house having no roof be not in your
makeup?
Skip: well, being ruthless to me is taking things
from people other than normal......
Tia: uh-huh.
Skip: okay?
Tia: uh-huh, I’ve just been called fluffy again.
Skip: but I can’t be unkind to people, okay?
Tia: oh, I understand.
Skip: and being ruthless is being unkind to people.
Tia: uh-huh. Well ruthless may not be the right word
for you, maybe something like more competitive?
Skip: competitive I can understand darling.
Tia: uh-huh.
Skip: okay, I understand that.
Tia: competitiveness……..actually, I can think of a
great example of competitiveness, just watch Heckle
and Jekyll one of these days when they get in a
competitive mood.
Skip: Heckle and Jekyll?
Tia: Maxxus and Naxxus.
(Ed note: names of Mark and I when we were brothers
in Atlantis)
Russ: Mark and myself.
Tia: uh-huh, you just watch them when they get
competitive, that’s endless fun.
Russ: laugh a minute.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: well, we have a laugh a minute.
Skip: well I compete with everybody…..
Tia: uh-huh.
Skip: in my field.
Tia: yes, in the business sense.
Skip: yeah.
Tia: but you can take it to extremes.
Skip: I can take it to extremes?
Tia: no, people can.
Skip: oh yeah, yeah.
Tia: it’s like the competitive nature of Heckle and
Jekyll, Archie and Jughead and first of all, let’s
talk about their computer rivalry.
Skip: yeah.
Tia: their computer competitiveness.
Skip: uh-huh.
Tia: and then their boating competitiveness.
Skip: in other words, what I’m doing is……..I’m in a
good position.
Tia: yes, you are in a good position.
Skip: well the only problem I got darling is I
retired from a full-time job and all I’m doing is
pursuing my....I call it a handyman business because
I do everything and anything for people that want
anything done.
Tia: well that’s very good because it that means
you’re very versatile, that you are capable……..and
you’re in the ideal situation to gather information.
Skip: yeah.
Tia: people will always want somebody that has a
skill at a reasonable price.
Skip: yeah.
Tia: that is a good skill.
Skip: well, my prices has always been reasonable…..
Tia: uh-huh.
Skip: I’ve always been just about half of what
contractors are plus hiring people, I don't hire
people, I work alone.
Tia: which is good.
Skip: yeah, and then I know what job's done and how
it’s done.
Tia: so, Russell the Love Muscle…….
Russ: uh-huh?
Tia: do you have a question?
Russ: yeah, darling.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: why do they call you fluffy?
Tia: because my hair gets all fluffy when I get
spicy.
Russ: ah, usually the cats get fluffy when they get
like really playful and stuff.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: makes sense.
Tia: uh-huh, my hair starts to fluff up, just the
tips.
Russ: okay, now darling, what would be the best way
to make use of our information ability or gathering
information at the Cyber Stop let’s say?
(Ed. note: a cyber cafe I co-owned at the time)
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: in which you……..
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SIDE TWO
(Tia's back to finish what she started)
Tia: you could put a particular topic of the day,
something that would be beneficial to everybody
and kind of print it up. For example, a health
sheet or a financial sheet or something that you
can put on the countertop that has
information.......let’s say, let's take heatstroke
and heat exhaustion and you could pull it off the
Internet, print it up and put it on the countertop
where people could come in you would have
something like symptoms, effects, end result if
untreated, treatments and preventions.
Russ: hmmm.
Tia: that way you are giving away a piece of
information or, what you could do, is distribute
it to various key locations where.........for
example, to the bike shops, today’s health news,
"it’s a hot day today, temperatures are expected
to be in the mid-90s", "if you’re riding your
bicycle, be aware of these facts".
Russ: hmmm.
Tia: "there is a chance of a thunderstorm today,
if you’re going to be out on the lake, be aware of
these facts", "or if you’re hiking, be aware of
these facts". "What to do if there is lightning?"
You see?
Russ: uh-huh.
Tia: myriad of different possibilities.
Russ: hmm.
Tia: and you could possibly supply it to shops
that sell hiking equipment, trail mix and so on.
Have somebody that runs out to do an errand and
they could drop it off at bike shops and stuff.
Russ: hmm.
Tia: a free service that is giving away
information for free and you can put a little
blurb in there on the bottom courtesy of the Cyber
Stop Café........location.
Russ: uh-huh.
Skip: uh-huh.
Tia: so not only are you doing a good deed, but………
Skip: you're advertising.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: interesting, okay.
Tia: okay, I better hop off as we have two more
speakers.
Russ: okay sweetheart.
Skip: okay.
(Tia says goodbye in Durondedunn)
Russ: hmm.
(Kiri steps in to take over briefly)
Kiri: yo, fluffy has hopped off the futon. I’ll be
back.
(Lyka is tonight's honored
guest speaker)
Lyka: hi, hello.
Russ: greetings Lyka.
Lyka: yo.
Skip: greetings sweetheart.
Russ: nice to have you back again, it’s been a
long time.
Lyka: uh-huh.
Skip: yes it has.
Lyka: okay, who needs their ass kicked?
(that gets Skip laughing hard)
Russ: a little rapier combat sweetheart?
Lyka: Tia says that you have a circle, I will not
fight on holy ground.
Russ: I understand that, I was thinking right here
on the futon.
Lyka: me stationary?
Russ: you bet.
Lyka: okay, whilst you go and get the
equipment.......
Russ: okay.
Lyka: we will continue talking and Tia is going to
get the headset.
Skip: been a long time sweetheart.
Lyka: uh-huh, it has.
Skip: in fact, what, almost two years I think?
Lyka: no, not that long.
Skip: yeah, it's been a real long time because I
wasn't coming up through the winter.
Lyka: well, anyway, it doesn’t matter.
Skip: it doesn’t matter.
Lyka: anyway, how you doing?
Skip: if I could quit coughing I'm doing just
great, I retired.
Lyka: from what?
Skip: from a steady job.
Lyka oh.
Skip: now I’ve got more work than I know what to
do with.
Lyka: I plan to retire in about 500 years.
Skip: yeah.
Lyka: I plan to retire as General Lyka.
Skip: there you go, that works.
(Russ gets back with the fencing equipment)
Lyka: oh thunder.
Russ: I’ll give you the easy stuff, I'll give you
the lightweight one.
Lyka: what’s that?
Russ: that’s a rapier.
Lyka: oh. You’ve lost your leg, down on one knee.
Russ: got the headset on yet?
Lyka: uh-huh, yeah.
(Ed. note: Lyka and I practice our swordsmanship
but the long section of fencing has been edited
out)
Russ:
you’re getting better at that stuff.
Lyka: don’t mess with the captain. And considering
I was giving you an extra opportunity through lack
of mobility, I think I did very good.
Russ: uh-huh.
Lyka: don’t you?
Russ: yes.
Lyka: okay………
Russ: I’m slowing down in my old age.
Lyka: I’m only 21.
Russ: the kids are beating me now.
Lyka: uh-huh.
Skip: right.
Lyka: uh-huh. Mind you, I’ve got more real life
kills than you’ll ever have.
Russ: thank God. Not a factor I’ll be too proud of
to say if I ever beat you at that.
Lyka: uh-huh, actually it’s something I’m too
proud of either. I’ve stopped putting notches in
my weapons.
Russ: well that’s good…..
Lyka: uh-huh.
Russ: that’s for the kids.
Lyka: yep, that’s for the lower echelons. Okay,
what are we going to talk about, what do you want
to know Skip?
Skip: I only have one regret.
Lyka: what’s that?
Skip: I can’t meet you in person, that's the only
regret I got.
Lyka: well, I’m only 6'2".
Skip: I don’t care how tall you are.
Lyka: I was just thinking walking down one of your
earth streets, on your arm, 6'2".
Skip: that’d be neat.
Lyka: uh-huh.
Skip: because I’m just under six foot.
Lyka: I think we would be turning heads. The 21
year old.....
Skip: oh boy….
Lyka: uh-huh.
Skip: "look at that old fart with that young
woman".
Russ: they would think, "that’s very nice that
she’s walking her dad down the street".
Skip: yeah right.
Lyka: that’s better. Sorry, I had a finger
problem, it locked briefly.
Russ: hmm. Now, we’ve always discussed the
possibility of what it would be like if Karra or
Tia or Kiri were all down here, it’s one of our
favorite topics of conversation actually.
Skip: yes, that would be neat, it really would be.
Lyka: uh-huh.
Russ: oh yeah, life would be perfect, but well…….
Skip: I guess I’ve met them in a previous life
though.
Lyka: uh-huh, I’d say so. I’m starting to get
mine, are starting to pop in and out every so
often.
Russ: well that’s good.
Lyka: I was just thinking walking down one of your
earth streets in a short toga just below my butt.
(that gets a big laugh out of Skip)
Skip: that’s called a duck dress, darling.
Lyka: uh-huh.
Skip: just long enough to cover the quack.
Lyka: uh-huh, and enough to turn the head.
Skip: you got it.
Lyka: of course I would wear underwear that shows.
Russ: of course.
Skip: you want to turn heads for sure don’t you?
Lyka: uh-huh.
Skip: yeah right.
Lyka okay, short toga just to about there.
Russ: you know what would happen if that were to
happen don’t you?
Lyka: what?
Russ: suddenly, we have a social disturbance and
they'd have to declare Defcon two.
(Skip laughs pretty hard yet again)
Lyka: to answer your question, yes we did.
Skip: yes we did what?
Russ: you need to define the question first before
you define the answer.
Lyka: I think Skip knows what the question is and
it’s best not said.
Russ: okay.
Lyka: uh-huh.
Russ: I'm left out in the cold again.
Skip: okay.
Lyka: uh-huh.
Skip: yeah, I know you’re saying.
Lyka: uh-huh.
Skip: I’m sorry, my mind went someplace else there
for a minute.
Lyka: for quite a few rotations as well.
Skip: okay.
Lyka: uh-huh, that came to me too.
Skip: yeah.
Lyka: no, there wasn’t.
Russ: oh boy, bloody Hell.
Lyka: what?
Russ: what?
Lyka: what?
Russ: well how am I supposed to edit this frickin
webpage darling?
Skip: I’d still like to tap into that
intelligence.
Lyka: okay.....uh-huh. Okay, webpage, webpage,
webpage and I’ve got to be on it this time haven’t
I? Okay……
Russ: afraid so sweetheart, sword fights don’t go
well on webpages.
Lyka: okay, being a member of the Sirian Defense
Force has given me the unique insight into the
hostility and the vibrations and the
aggressiveness of certain frequencies generated by
being an Oath Keeper and learning how to balance
that with a harmonic and peaceful experience.
Being an Oath Keeper, it is sometimes necessary
for myself and other Oath Keepers to be extremely
aggressive and harsh and unforgiving. But, the
other side of the coin is, even though we may harm
other beings to the point of obliterating their
existence, we do not forget that it is part of
their learning experience that we have not robbed
them from but have aided them through. Even though
this sounds like a kind of glib way of looking at
taking life, it is something that is necessary. It
is not only necessary to look at it that way, that
we are aiding them in their learning process and
speeding them on to a next life so that they can
reevaluate and redirect their focus, but also the
fact that we are fulfilling an oath. Oaths are
very important being that if you break an oath,
first of all you are breaking allegiance with
somebody and secondly the person that you’re
breaking the oath with is really yourself. Why is
it really yourself? Well this is very easy. If you
make a promise, if you make an oath, that is
giving yourself to another person and being
prepared to follow through on that oath is very
important because you are following through on
your path. Most people make promises much too
easily which is wrong. A promise is something that
is a gift. A gift of yourself to somebody else for
services. I promise to defend my home planet to my
dying breath and the home planets and sister
worlds that my planet has aided and promise to aid
in the past, the present, and the future. I am an
Oath Keeper, I swear by my life, trade my life so
others may be free to make their own choices. That
is just the start of our oath. The oath, the
pledge, the gift of being an Oath Keeper is just
that. We promise to aid the sister worlds of
Sirius in their growth in whatever capacity it is
deemed necessary. Is that good enough for your
page?
Russ: that sounds pretty good.
Lyka: uh-huh.
Russ: that works well.
Lyka: can I take my captain's hat off now?
Russ: yes you may.
Lyka: okay.........bite me.
Skip: what you're…..
Lyka: uh-huh?
Skip: what you’re saying is something that's taken
very lightly in this world.
Lyka: yes, I’ve noticed that actually. A lot of
third dimensional planets do not take oaths and
pledges of allegiance seriously.
Skip: I can tell you one other step beyond that.
Lyka: okay.
Skip: the ceremony of holy matrimony.
Lyka: well that’s an oath.
Skip: yes it is.
Lyka: uh-huh, that’s the most sacred of oath on
your planet.
Skip: yeah and for many people......well, I
can't.....
Lyka: uh-huh.
Skip: nevermind, I don't want to get into that.
Lyka: when I find my soulmate, my twin soul, then
even though I have my oath as an Oath Keeper……
Skip: that other party you could commit to that
oath also.
Lyka: correct. However, it’s slightly different up
here. Having multiple partners, not at the same
time but multiple partners, is again………it’s not
frowned upon as it is on your planet.
Skip: uh-hmm.
Lyka: sex and love are two totally different
things.
Skip: uh-huh.
Lyka: sex is for fun, entertainment,
recreation........making love is a gift......
Skip: uh-huh.
Lyka: the gift of my body to my partner.
Skip: uh-huh.
Lyka: I have sex quite frequently, I don’t make
love very often.
Skip: uh-huh.
Lyka: and that philosophy is common throughout
Sirius and quite a few of the sister worlds. It is
something that has helped the spiritual growth as
well.
Skip: hmmm.
Russ: hmm.
Skip: that’s an interesting aspect.
Lyka: uh-huh. You see sexuality is enjoyable,
being sexual is very enjoyable. Then why is it
stated as being wrong in some civilizations?
Skip: well, it isn’t wrong per se but, according
to our teachings….
Lyka uh-huh.
Skip: we’re supposed to be monogamous.
Lyka: uh-huh.
Skip: in other words, one partner period sexually
or in love, okay? You understand where I’m coming
from.
Lyka: oh yeah, yeah, as a rule I……
Skip: and, to be that way is very difficult.
Lyka: uh-huh. I only have as a rule, there are
times where I do bend the rules and break the
rules and throw the rules out the window, but as a
rule I only have one. I’m monogamous at the time,
I have one sexual partner at a time.
Skip: uh-huh, me too.
Lyka: I’ve been known to have more than one
partner in a night.
Skip: well I don’t think I have, no, in fact I
never have, not in one night.
Lyka: hey, it gets mighty lonely
on the battlefield sometimes.
Skip: oh I know.
Lyka: and one finds companionship and comfort
wherever necessary.
See: yeah, it is, it is necessary.
Lyka: uh-huh, in combat, more so. I found that I
get more closer to the people that I’m with and
giving myself to them and them giving themselves
to me is reaffirming life.
Skip: yeah, acceptable.
Lyka: uh-huh, and it helps to make a scary
situation a little bit more bearable......
Skip: yeah.
Lyka: and a lot more fun too.
Skip: yeah.
Russ: so you don’t believe it’s true that you give
a little of yourself each time you make love or
have sex?
Lyka: you do give a little bit of yourself but you
also get a little bit of the other person too.
Russ: right.
Lyka: so it kind of adds up.
Skip: that goes even with knowing a person.
Lyka: uh-huh.
Skip: you give a little bit of yourself to
somebody you know…
Lyka: uh-huh.
Skip: but you also get a little bit something back
from them.
Lyka: yeah. When I make love I totally submit to
them.
Skip: uh-huh.
Lyka: and they do likewise. Well, you know when
you’re having sex and when you’re making love,
both partners know that.
Skip: yep.
Lyka: I’ve never had sex or I’ve never made love
to somebody that's having sex with me. It’s always
we make love or we have sex.
Russ: uh-huh.
Lyka: and both are just as enjoyable.
Skip: yeah.
Lyka: pity this can't go on the web. Well, edited
creatively it might.
(Ed. note: no editing needed)
Skip: well, like I said, our laws and
whatchamacallits are little bit different from
yours.
Lyka: uh-huh.
Russ: morals?
Skip: morals, ethics, whatever you want to call
them.
Lyka: uh-huh. Okay, I suppose I better put on the
last boisterous one.
Skip: yeah.
Russ: okay love.
Lyka: hand back to fluffy.
Russ: thanks for a lovely little….
Skip: yeah, thank you, it’s been nice talking to
you.
Lyka: uh-huh, I’ll be around for three more weeks.
Skip: okay.
Russ: good.
Lyka: uh-huh.
Russ: more sparring.
Lyka: oh yeah.
(Tia's back as ring mistress)
(Tia says hi in Duondedunn)
Russ: hi Tia.
Skip: hi baby.
Tia: now that was an interesting start wasn’t?
Skip: uh-huh.
Tia: I didn’t want Kiri on just yet. Okay, I’m
going to hand over to the Kiri monster.
(Tia says goodbye in Durondedunn)
Skip: bye hon.
(It's Kiri's time to channel
though we have to cut it short due to the late
start)
Kiri: yo......yo, yo, yo, yo.
Russ: what’s up. Kiri?
Kiri: my
libido.
Russ: of course, and any other surprises?
Kiri: no,
apart from watching Lyka glow like a beacon.
Russ: well that’s good, of course Alana’s on the
base isn’t she?
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: ahh yes, just hasn't got off of school yet.
Kiri: no,
she doesn’t go back........she goes back for a
month and then she’s back here, back to class,
back to being teached by.......Kiri. She leaves at
the beginning of September, she spends a month
taking classes and taking exams and stuff and then
she comes back and then she’s got two more years
which she’ll take one more month off to go back
and take exams and stuff. I’ve given her six
weeks.
Skip: hmm.
Kiri: she
can take an extra two weeks off if she wants.
Okay, warp core engines. Sucker, not going to do
it. Let me see if I can get the right voice going,
"not going to do it". Nah, doesn’t sound right,
does it? "Wouldn’t be prudent at this juncture".
So, what’s with the felines?
Russ: oh she’s being boisterous…..
Kiri: ahhh.
Russ: fluffy, you might say.
Kiri: oh,
a Tia mood huh?
Russ: uh-huh.
Kiri: okay,
what are we going to talk about?
Russ: well pretty much anything at this point.
Skip: I think it’s about time for me to head down
the hill young lady.
Russ: it’s only 11:20.
Kiri: thank
you.
Skip: huh?
Russ: it’s only 11:20.
Kiri: sessions
almost over. We got about……
Russ: the night’s still young.
Skip: it might be your young but not my young.
Kiri: well he’s
a young whippersnapper.
Russ: thank you, thank you Kiri.
Kiri: and
how old are you?
Russ: a mere 38.
Kiri: oh.
Skip: 38…..
Kerry: uh-huh.
Skip: I wish I was 38 again.
Russ: well……
Kiri: I’m
60.
Skip: I got you beat darling.
Kiri: by
how many?
Skip: five years.
Kiri: oh
boring old fart, my sister's got you beat.
Skip: I know.
Russ: Karra’s got you way beat.
Skip: yeah, in this life.
Kiri: oh,
well I am in this life.
Skip: no, I’m talking about me.
Kiri: oh.
Personally, I want to live until I'm as old as my
grandmother.
Skip: how old is that?
Russ: how is your grandmother?
Kiri: oh
she’s doing fine, she’s got over her illness.
Skip: oh did she?
Kiri: uh-huh.
Skip: oh great.
Russ: glad to hear it.
Skip: she’s super.
Kiri:
she’s
back being as sarcastic and as facetious and as
humble as always. She is what? 803 now I think.
Russ: great lady.
Kiri:
uh-huh,
and she doesn’t look a day over 700.
Skip: yeah right.
Russ: well, she has given us a lot of help in the
past.
Skip: yes, she has.
Russ: she’s been invaluable……
Skip: oh, talking about your grandmother……
Kiri:
uh-huh.
Skip: did that gentleman that was supposed to be
my guide ever get in…..
Kiri:
not
yet, he’s still….
Skip: okay, no problem.
Kiri:
he’s
still fighting.
Skip: good.
Kiri:
he
still fighting and he’s……..he goes through phases
where we think it could be any day…..
Skip: yeah.
Kiri:
and
then he gets better and then we think okay, it’s
going to be a while yet and then he gets worse and
at the moment he’s in one of those doing better.
Skip: super, glad to hear it, I can wait......
Kiri:
uh-huh.
Skip: I’m patient.
Kiri:
patience
is very important. I think we gave him like two
years and that was a year ago……..
Skip: yeah.
Kiri:
and
we're still giving him two years.
Skip: right, there you go. That’s okay, that’s
fine, that's fine.
Kiri:
did
you......you and Lyka did, didn’t you?
Skip: I’m sorry.
Kiri:
nevermind,
it was just that Lyka bounced off giggling like a
little schoolgirl. You made her blush.
Skip: oh yeah?
Kiri:
uh-huh.
Russ: what, calling her a young lady or something?
Kiri:
she
was giggling. Russ is too set in his ways to know
what that means.
(Skip breaks out in laughter)
Russ: oh, walking down the street, I get it.
Skip: okay.......
Kiri:
so
what is it with these felines?
Skip: oh they play like that all the time darling.
Kiri:
that’s
right, they’re missing one, aren’t they?
Skip: yeah.
Russ: they'll never know it.
Kiri:
yes
they will, they will when it comes sleep time.
They’ll have more room and think, "oh goody".
Russ: well good night, let’s cut it short.
Kiri:
okay
guys.
Russ: bye Kiri.
Skip: thank you darling, have a nice one.
Kiri:
oh
I intend to. I’ve got a dress to make and
a........yeah, I've got to do…..
(Kiri goes into "Sound of Music" mode)
Kiri: "good night, farewell, it’s time to say
goodbye".
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(Tia comes back to end the session but not the
recording)
(Tia says hi in Durondedunn)
Skip: hi sweetheart.
Tia: okay, this channeling session is now
adjourned.
Skip: okay.
Tia: and I must say adieu to you, auf Wiedersehen
to you.
Russ: all right darling.
Tia: uh-huh, and Russ?
Russ: huh?
Tia: don’t think too hard, it’s not within your
grasp.
(Tia says something in Durondedunn)
Russ: I’ll see you next week.
(Tia departs with an Durondedunn joking insult and
then a normal Durondedunn farewell)
(We chat while waiting for Mark
to get back from the base)
Russ: we’ve been slamming.
Skip: I know.
Russ: it’s been fun, I love the business but man,
it's just.......
Skip: you’re just going to have to take a little
time for Russ.
(Mark coughs)
Russ: that will be the day. Hey Mark.
Skip: hi babe.
Russ: babe?
Skip: whatever.
Mark: I prefer dude. I’m 32 you know, I’m not a
babe.
Skip: sure you are. Your half my age, you’re a
babe.
Russ: yeah, some girls might think so Mark.
Mark: I was hoping for something more like a hunk.
Russ: hey, stay true here(?).
Mark: yeah, true, I’m happy as I am anyway.
Skip: hey….
Mark: oh.
Skip: well, I’m going to have to head down the
hill. That lady pulled a hell of a lot of energy
out of me tonight. Let’s stop on this.
Russ: same way as you hit the……………………………..
THE TAPE ENDS
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