Ode To An Oath Keeper- Channeled (08/25/98 )

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Archivist Notes: Two months ago we honored Wing Commander Taal and the sacrifice he faces each time he leaves the base to patrol our skies. This month, we again honor another who risks her life for the sake of others as part of her role in the Sirian Defense Force. Lyka has more than once shown us what sacrifice looks like and, for our July podcast, it plays a major role in her explanation of how she is able to justify to herself the act of taking the life of another. In a lighter point in the channeling she goes on to provide the defining characteristics between sex and love which she says is practiced by pretty much everyone on Sirius and most of the sister worlds. It works for them but would be impractical on our world at this time though not an impossible reality in our future. Lyka's dissertation on her life as an Oath Keeper is remarkable and along with that, we have one of the longest sections posted in the archives of Mark after he has returned from the base and begins speaking in his normal voice. This session has become our favorite of the year so far and we hope it will be as equally memorable for the listener as well.

   It's hard to wrap our heads around the events of twenty-two years ago and current times being so much in sync and we yet again present a channeling session that could have taken place live in this day and age if one replaces heatwave with pandemic. It doesn't start out so dire with Karra filling in as ring mistress while the other two mothers settle down their children for bed. She steps out of her ambassador mode temporarily as she critiques a healing held in the same room earlier in the evening down here. Our guest Skip had brought a friend who was in need of an energy infusion but left prior to the session. Three monitors we were unable to see in this dimension had always been installed in the room since Mark had first channeled which allowed Karra to watch the healing take place along with the various energy flows the monitors would have displayed. Her take on the exchange was that Skip had not been monitoring his friend's energy levels causing him to start overheating himself. That leads to a great talk on how to recognize another person's energy levels from afar or, in Skip's case, having to shake a person's hand to gauge their energy. We determine how best to help Skip and so Karra makes way for Omal's turn to speak. In one of his foretelling of the future discussions, he describes the present back in 1998 and there are parallels aplenty as he goes over heatwaves in the most recent Covid hotspots of today, a stock market that can lose 3% of its value overnight, and a prison riot that nearly was the cause of him declaring Defcon three  due to the combination of events. The excess heat around the globe brings up the subject of global warming and his view on it as an outside observer. He ends after a discourse on balancing water conservation with land conservation by highlighting the differences between the proponents of both priorities. Tia then returns as the traditional ring mistress to discuss stock market fluctuations and how politicians may have been stepping in to slow down a rising market. To prepare for a time of possible economic disruption, she focuses on a vital possession to be gathered and shared should the need arise and that is information. The tape runs out so we have to continue the subject after a short break.

   We were running late and, due to the earlier healing, the session was cut short less than a half an hour into the second side. Tia finishes the subject she had started on the previous tape before bringing on our guest of honor Lyka. The feisty side of Lyka is showing as she's raring for a test of skills through swordplay. We get out the equipment and go at it though it's just the sound of clanging steel before we cut to the ending of our training. All of that was edited out making the session even shorter because it lacked any noteworthy discussion. Our guest Skip has always wanted to meet Lyka in person which is impossible but it doesn't stop her from imagining the mental image of how the two of them would look side by side on one of our streets so she ruminates on the possibilities. We need a bit more from her to add to the Hades Base News thus she presents an excellent dissertation on the life of an Oath Keeper in the Sirian Defense Force and how they are able to rationalize the taking of a life. It makes a lot of sense, especially seen as it's the upholding of an oath made by Sirius to whatever world it is that Lyka has been deployed along with the other Oath Keepers. Taking off her captain's hat, she next provides a higher dimensional explanation of how sex and love are different. This was a year before he would meet the love of her life Leah, the sister of Bunny. We learn about the sharing of oneself with another which leads to a discussion of past lives. She explains how hers are starting to come in at twenty-one but we know her last one was as General Patton from our history which must have come as quite a shock when she learned about that life. She makes way for Kiri to channel before Skip has to leave since it concerns a future guide of his who was still among the living in the third dimension. We get to hear about the status of her grandmother and Skip's guide where an agreement had been made between lives and Skip would finally have a guide for the first time in this life after the soon to be guide went through the process of passing between life and death. While it may have been a short session, the sound is of a great quality which really comes in handy as Mark makes his way from Hades Base back into his body. We get some time to goof around as always before we shut down the recorder for the night.                        

KARRA- Co-Ring Mistress MARK (Channel)
TIA- Co-Ring Mistress
RUSS (Archivist)


1.)(0:00)- Karra critiques a healing we did in third dimension and find out how to gauge a person's energy levels by how warm or cold are their hands. She's also able to provide some mentoring for a guest in need.
3.)(30:48)- Tia goes over the economy and how it's being affected by governmental policies. She encourages the gathering of information to stay up on things and pass it around.

1.)(3:20)- Lyka gets in some sword practice in Mark's body and gives a dissertation on the importance of oaths and defines the differences between love and sex on Sirius and most of the sister worlds.
2.)(18:51)- Kiri goes over Alana's school schedule as she shuttles between Sirius and the base before giving us and update on her grandmother. It's good news as we hear she's over her recent illness.
3.)(25:19)- Mark gets back to his body after leaving the base while the tape is till running so we hear one of our longest yet recordings of his normal voice.
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(Karra fills in as ring mistress while Tia is busy)

Karra: okay, how’s everybody going?

Skip: just fine darling.

Russ: excellent.

Karra: okay, now Tia is a little tied up at the moment settling the children down as is Kiri. Okay, where do I start?

Russ: you’re the ring mistress, start wherever you'd like.

Karra: okay, let us look at healing.

Russ: okay.

Karra: okay, let us look at tonight’s healing and the energy use and how everything went. Okay, first of all I would like to say that we were monitoring, I hope you didn’t mind.

Skip: no, not a bit.

Karra: okay, going to critique a little bit here. Okay, you did the right thing by talking to the young lady to start off with…..

Skip: uh-huh.

Karra: you did the right thing by asking the correct questions.

Skip: uh-huh.

Karra: what you should have done, what you needed to do as well is to as you’re talking and as you’re getting to know the young lady and find out what’s ailing her, you also need to observe the energy flow. Feel the energy coming off. You charged yourself up which was good however, because she was giving off energy, it kind of overwhelmed you to start off with hence the reason for the sudden increase in perspiration and the heat. Now, do you know how to sense if somebody is giving off energy?

Skip: no I don’t.

Karra: okay, it’s quite simple and it's something that we should have covered. When you’re standing near somebody, let me put up my hand……let me charge Mark’s hand up…..okay, he’s now giving off energy. Now come close and just reach out gently so you’re not quite touching. Okay, can you feel the energy coming off of the hand?

Skip: no.

Karra: okay. Relax your hand and just gently do this with it, you should be able to feel energy. Okay, it should be a warm, kind of wavy-type feeling.

Skip: no.

Karra: okay, here’s another way, shake hands. Okay, can you feel the heat?

Skip: yeah.

Karra: okay, you can relax. That’s energy being given off…….

Skip: uh-huh.

Karra: okay? When somebody’s hands are cold, it means that they're trying to draw energy in. Now there is normal heat in the hand, which is normal, Russ’ hands are at the normal heat at the moment.

Skip: uh-huh.

Karra: the host’s hands are charged up and they're giving off excess heat which is the energy being given off. So the thing to do is shake hands. You can hug but the most important thing is if somebody’s giving off, the tell tale signs is heat.

Skip: uh-huh.

Karra: if you can’t feel heat, shake their hand.

Skip: okay.

Karra: if it’s warm, warmer than it should be, they are giving off energy.

Skip: okay.

Karra: very, very simple, very easy to remember and something very easy to forget.

Skip: uh-huh.

Karra: okay, now when you came down here to the magic room......okay, you went through the correct procedure of getting her to sit down, to relax and you talked to her for a few minutes to get her nice and relaxed and then you started the healing, that’s good. Now when you finished, you need to get her to kind of pull energy back in. You’ve gone through the healing, you’ve gone through the ball supply from the pelvic area up through the chakras, all the way back out and you've looped it and you've done all the correct things. The person is amped, energized….

Skip: uh-huh.

Karra: okay? It can be a little bit overwhelming and it can kind of shut down the person. I’m saying can kind of because sometimes they don’t.

Skip: uh-huh.

Karra: in her case I noticed that she was a little bit more subdued afterwards. Okay, what you need to do is get them to relax for a moment and do simple deep breathing exercises at the end........

Skip: okay.

Karra: 10 deep, 10 shallow. You can do a cycle of two and if they’re having difficulty breathing as she was in her case, it helps to get more oxygen into their system which in turn calms them down and gives them the opportunity to regroup and to be more centered.

Skip: uh-huh, okay.

Karra: okay? Those are the only things I can critique on, you did a good job.

Skip: thank you darling.

Karra: uh-huh.

Skip: now, I have a question.

Karra: okay.

Skip: evidently, I have allowed my mind to block my physical adeptness…..

Karra: uh-huh.

Skip: in becoming or being what I call or consider a complete man.

Karra: okay.

Skip: and how do I go about this healing myself?

Karra: first of all, don’t worry about it.

Skip: okay.

Karra: okay now, worry and stress are the two biggest problems.

Skip: okay.

Karra: uh-huh. So there’s something that is worrying you that is making you stressed.

Skip: hmm, shouldn’t be any more.

(Skip starts laughing)

Karra: also, maybe you don’t feel comfortable with the right woman?

Skip: now that’s possible......

Karra: uh-huh.

Skip: that could be possible.

Karra: after all, you’re not exactly a juvenile delinquent that will jump in bed with any young lady.

Skip: you got that right.

(Skip laughs again at that one)

Karra: so you’re much more selective and the thing is you're stressing on something. You're stressing on impressing your lady and you’re worrying about making her feel comfortable. Be yourself, don’t worry about it. I know it’s hard not to worry, but worry and stress are the two main factors. So when I say, don’t worry about it, I mean, don’t worry about it.

Skip: well my job was a big stress and worry before…

Karra: uh-huh.

Skip: now I have since then eliminated that.

Karra: that’s part of it. Also something else that has been covered in your popular press, is……..you’re not going to like this……..

Skip: go ahead.

Karra: it’s my favorite pet peeve which is? Russ?

Russ: smoking.

Karra: uh-huh. Nicotine can suppress the ability.

Skip: uh-huh, okay.

Karra: uh-huh, that’s your choice.

Skip: yeah, I understand that, I understand that.

Karra: uh-huh. I mean for some people it is a benefit in a way it decreases the size.

(Ed. note: she is referring to the inflammation caused by
Skip: uh-huh.

Karra: now for some people, it is a benefit.

Skip: yeah, okay.

Karra: but that is also possibly a factor.

Skip: okay.

Karra: okay?

Skip: uh-huh.

Karra: next question?

Skip: no, you satisfied me, go ahead Russ.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: I’m wondering if with Skip being a healer why he’s not picking up on the energy put off by hands. Me, who’s getting to be a healer, can pick it up in a heartbeat.

Karra: sometimes it’s something that's very easily overlooked.

Russ: would it be because maybe he draws in energy off, or used to, draw energy off and now that has stopped that, maybe he’s blocked off that area?

Karra: it’s possible.

Russ: how do we fix it or how do we find out?

Karra: well it’s not how do we find out, it’s how do we remedy it.

Russ: right.

Karra: which I think we’ve just had.

Russ: ahh.

Karra: by the simple shaking of the hand. Now if I can shut down Mark’s body from giving off energy, I mean I can see the heat rising off of him, his whole entire body at the moment. If you run your hand down his arm, you should be able to feel the heat coming off of him. Can you feel the heat?

Skip: uh-uh, no.

Karra: it takes a little bit of time to becoming sensitive to it.

Skip: I may have a problem within myself of be doing so many years with welding though.

Karra: uh-huh, that’s a possibility that your hands aren't as sensitive as they used to be.

Skip: because I can stand an awful lot of heat….

Karra: uh-huh.

Skip: in my hands.

Karra: yes.

Skip: so, that might be a problem right there.

Russ: well it might not be a problem, it might just be something that you need to be aware of.

Skip: being sensitive, yeah.

Karra: yeah.

Skip: because even today I was welding out in the sunshine…

Karra: uh-huh.

Skip: and everything was just superhot.

Russ: right, so that might be something to think about anyway.

Skip: yeah.

Karra: a simple remedy to the lack of sensitivity in the hands is the simple handshake.

Skip: yeah.

Karra: I mean that tells you a lot right there. See the heat?

Skip: yeah, now I can feel the heat.

Karra: uh-huh, simple remedy.

Skip: but to run my hand over Mark’s body, no, I can’t feel the heat.

Karra: uh-huh. Russ, run your hand about yea far above his arm, you should feel the heat.

Russ: uh-huh, yeah, I can feel him.

Karra: uh-huh. So that is the remedy is that your hands aren’t as sensitive, possibly due to the welding but by the simple shaking of the hands…..

Skip: then I can pick up on the heat, yeah.

Karra: very, very simple.

Skip: yeah.

Karra: uh-huh.

Skip: okay, question then……

Karra: uh-huh.

Skip: I absorbed energy before this session tonight.

Karra: uh-huh.

Skip: should I continue to do this before I do a healing?

Karra: yes.

Skip: okay all right, I just wanted to make sure, I just didn’t want to mess everything up.

Karra: uh-huh. Doing it prior to the meeting is a standard way of healing......

Skip: okay.

Karra: but sometimes you come across the odd one or two people that instead of needing energy are giving off energy even though they need it......

Skip: uh-huh.

Karra: kind of makes it harder to focus the energy properly.

Skip: well I tried to set her up with the energy ball within herself plus my energy and I believe it made quite a difference.

Karra: she seemed to feel more comfortable and relaxed.

Skip: uh-huh.

Karra: which is the most important thing. Remember what I said last week about the secret rule of healers?

Skip: uh-huh. Now why do you think I had her set up that little light ball?

Karra: uh-huh. We focus the energy for them.......their energy to heal themselves.

Skip: that’s right.

Karra: and a lot of it is sitting down and talking, communicating......

Skip: uh-huh.

Karra: making them at ease.

Skip: well I’ve known this lady before this session tonight, I spoke to her oh, maybe half a dozen times.

Karra: now what was the joke? When Tia tells me that Mark was chuckling to himself?

Skip: when was this?

Karra: tonight. Tia’s not giving me much to go on, she’s kind of singing a lullaby at the moment.

Skip: beats me darling, you’re talking over my head, okay?

Karra: I will ask her when she comes back.

Skip: okay.

Karra: okay, we will move on to the next speaker…..

Skip: thank you.

Karra: and hopefully I will be returning….

Skip: thank you very much.

Karra: or if not I will be making myself available on the sidelines for input.

Skip: okay, thank you darling.

Russ: okay.

Karra: okay?

(Omal exchanges places with Karra)

Omal: greetings and felicitations. Greetings Skip, greetings Russ.

Russ: greetings Omal.

Skip: evening Omal.

Omal: we have a small crowd tonight, of two.

Skip: we’re enough aren’t we Omal?

Omal: oh yes.

Skip: okay.

Omal: okay, first of all I will simply open by commenting on Karra’s comments which are very acceptable. As always, Karra has very good input and she does love the opportunity to talk as a healer. There is nothing that she said that cannot go on the web except for the healer’s secret.

(Ed. note: the secret has already been posted online in 2017 and so therefore it has been kept)

skip: uh-huh.

Omal: okay, let us move along. Russ, you have a question, let us get that out of the way first.

Russ: well the Defcon today, the near

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: how close and what would of been the steps taken after that point besides the informing of the public?

Omal: we would’ve not taking any more steps apart from advising of the situation. What would needed to be have done by the public is to be more aware and to prepare or to put themselves in a state where they are ready for whatever may come. Now to explain to Skip, the reasons for the close announcement, that we did not announce it due to the fact of not meeting one of the criteria, you have at present a natural disaster that is going on which is the heat in your province of California, Nevada and Southern Oregon. You also have the heat in the state of Texas, Florida, Arizona and parts of the Midwest. The expected toll from this is approaching a hundred deaths in Texas and numerous deaths in other locations due to the warmth factor. Also, the drought that has been caused by this in the state of Texas and the shortness on supplies for cattle, to feed, for chickens, for egg production, for milk production and so on. Also what transpired today is the drop, the third-largest drop in the stock market of approximately I believe it was 3% of its current value. I will not delve too deeply into that as Tia has information on that. If there had been an action of civil disobedience, even a small one, we would’ve not bent the rules, but declared a
Defcon three because it met the criteria even though it is a gray area on whether a small prison riot would have classified as civil disobedience. It does meet the criteria but is it significant enough to declare a Defcon three on a small prison riot with the other criteria meeting the expected levels? It would be my call. I honestly cannot say that I would or would not declare a Defcon three on just that prison riot if there was one. It would be a up in the air, how do I feel at the moment, do I think the situation is going to get worse? Now, because of the heat wave in the state of California, you may notice that the lights are slightly dimmer. This is because there is a power drain going on as well. Energy has been diverted to the hottest areas for air-conditioning and so on. This in turn if it is increasingly hotter, will become more pronounced and you may have areas that shut down because there is not enough energy. Now they will draw energy away from the rural areas that do not need it as much so it is something to be aware of. They may even shut down certain areas, do what they call a rolling blackout, but this really does depend on how critical the energy problem gets. Do we have any questions?

Russ: well a rolling blackout is in itself of course a good key towards civil disobedience……….

Omal: yes.

Russ: as we’ve discussed before. But how well is our government or even our local governments prepared to deal with a rolling blackout and any problems that come up because of that?

Omal: they’re not.

Russ: ahh.

Omal: they would not expect civil disobedience. Certainly, certain law enforcement agencies would be certainly paying more attention to what is going on but they would not expect a riot, they would not expect mass civil disobedience. The possibility with increased heat is one or two things. Either people are too hot and drained to do anything or, because the power is out, they get angry and frustrated and decide to do something about it. Those are the two possibilities. There is no third possibility, it's either they do or they don’t. So it is something that is definitely worth watching, it is something to be cautious of, maybe avoid traveling in unlit areas until the power comes back on in those areas. Stay indoors where A, it should be cooler or stay close to home. Next question.

Skip: doesn’t heat, when we’re talking about natural heat, doesn't that aggravate and irritate people to have quicker tempers and flare up faster and get angrier quicker?

Omal: yes.....

Skip: that's what I thought.

Omal: without a shadow of the doubt, yes. But the question is, is what has changed between fifty to a hundred years ago and now where they did have heat waves that were just as hot and just as long, however people did not get as violent, what has changed?

Skip: technology.

Russ: people are more pampered, more spoiled.

Skip: technology.

Omal: exactly. They expected the heat, they expected the cold, they were prepared. If you look at the houses that were built fifty to a hundred years ago that are still used, they are cooler than the houses that were built thirty years ago.

Skip: uh-huh.

Omal: if you were to turn off the air conditioning in your abode Skip, the heat would soar correct?

Skip: no, I don’t have air-conditioning in my house Omal, I use the natural air-conditioning which is a breeze that blows through my house…...

Omal: ahhh.

Skip: okay?

Omal: okay, but you do see where I’m coming from?

Skip: yes I do, I understand exactly where you’re coming from. It’s just that my house was custom-made when it was built and it does have probably three times more insulation in it than the average built house today.

Omal: okay, now a common misconception is that insulation is used to keep the heat in.....

Skip: uh-uh.

Omal: it is used for both.

Skip: yep, to keep the heat out and to keep the cold out.

Omal: correct, so that you can maintain a constant temperature.

Skip: uh-huh.

Omal: if for example Russ was to increase the thickness of the walls within this house, or even within this room, just double the size of the thickness of the wall and fill it with insulating material, the temperature in this room would become more constant and the same throughout the whole entire house. Just that, doubling of the thickness would be enough to decrease the heating bill.

Skip: and the cooling.

Omal: and the cooling bill. I don’t believe there is a cooling bill here is there?

Skip: well we're talking about examples.

Omal: yes, about examples. So you see that the weather does affect the moods.

Skip: uh-huh.

Omal: and the difference in between then and now, a hundred fifty to a hundred years ago, is quite considerable. Next question please.

Skip: Russ?

Russ: Omal, I have a question for you concerning the cause of the heat.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: about a year and a half ago or so we had discussed the H.A.A.R.P. project…..

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and other projects going on that were in the experimental phase at the time…

Omal: no.

Russ: oh, they're in the using phase?

Omal: they were in the experimental and the answer to your question is or your question is, did they affect the temperature of the planet?

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: the answer is no.

Russ: ahh, okay.

Omal: this is a natural phenomenon, it is not contributed to global warming because global warming, even though it is not a myth, has not yet started to affect your planet. Global warming is a natural phenomenon. Why is it natural phenomena? Because there are external forces acting on your planet that is being affected by A, the photon cloud and B, a normal, cyclical phenomena from your sun. Your sun, is brighter, it is giving off more heat. This is a 1,200 year cycle. If you look at your fossil records, you will notice that there is more abundance when the sun gets to a particular part in its cycle. Like the sun has its eleven-year sunspot cycle, its seven-year radiation cycle, its 1,200-year vibrational or rather intensity cycle where it becomes brighter and then it gradually dims back down. You are reaching a point where it is getting brighter. This is perfectly natural and it is not as bad as you would think. What is your impression of your sun getting brighter?

Russ: well it’s part of the cycle it goes through towards the end of its life.

Omal: but what do you think is the normal reaction? What would happen?

Russ: well people would panic.

Omal: no, this is a normal cycle.

Russ: oh.

Omal: it is not swelling up and getting bigger, which is what it does towards the end of its life, this is a normal fluctuation where it gets brighter and then dimmer, brighter then dimmer.

Russ: well, nobody would blame it on the sun.

Omal: for one thing, but would it not increase the earth’s temperature?

Russ: well yeah, of course.

Omal: not quite.

Russ: hmm.

Omal: even though the sun has become hotter, the winters become colder and wetter. The heating process pushes warmer water from the southern hemisphere up, which is…..?

Russ: the El Niño.

Omal: correct. Which in turn does what?

Russ: makes it colder and wetter.

Omal: correct but the sun has become hotter and drier…….

Russ: hmm.

 Omal: you see?

Russ: okay.

Omal: El Niño and La Niña, the two children.

Russ: hmmm.

Omal: next question please.

Russ: Skip?

Skip: wouldn’t that increase our production of food and so on and so forth by the sun getting hotter?

Omal: if it is used correctly, the wet winters, the storage capability, increasing storage capability of water, then yes it would. Certain produce loves the heat, but also needs the water. Now if it’s drier and the plants cannot get enough water then they do not produce as much. But, on the other hand, if you store water from the wet winter......this winter was the second wettest winter on record in your state of California.......if you had stored that water, then you would be able to irrigate and supply water all the year around to areas that need it and so therefore productivity would be increased.

Skip: we got a problem with that.

Omal: yes.

Skip: people don’t want to make any more reservoirs, they figure we’re destroying the land by making reservoirs.

Omal: it's a two edge sword.

Skip: yeah.

Omal: I’m not saying that you should, and I’m not saying that you shouldn’t.

Skip: no I understand that Omal, it’s just that we got different organizations that every time we try to make any advancement they've got to put a kibosh on it.

Omal: yes, I’m aware of that, it is something that gives me no end of entertainment. In fact I think Mark has a phrase for them, the granola heads?

Skip: yeah, I’ll go for that.

Omal: next question please.

Russ: okay, just to recap on the year and a half update on the H.A.A.R.P. project, the results of that, do we have anything that we can put on the web?

Omal: nothing to worry about at this time.

Russ: okay.

Omal: okay, last questions from each of you.

Skip: none from me, thank you Omal.

Omal: you’re welcome.

Russ: none from me either, I think you pretty well covered everything.

Omal: okay, thank you.

Russ: thank you Omal.

Omal: live long, prosper and, see you in two weeks.

(Tia now has her time to go over what she has to say)

(Tia says hi in Durondedunn)

Russ: hi Tia.

Tia: due to the fact......let me make an announcement first…..

Skip: go ahead baby.

Tia: due to the fact that Kiri and Karra will be absent next week, Omal has a Council meeting that he will be attending which will leave just myself and the feisty Lyka…….

Russ: well this will be fun.

Tia: and anybody else that I can pull, we may cancel the channeling session.

Russ: ohhhh.

Tia: just for the week.

Russ: okay.

Skip: all right darling.

Tia: but it’s up in the air at the moment, I may be able to pull some other people in.

Skip: okay.

Tia: okay…..

Russ: we might have a half tape left I think from that one tough session.

Tia: oh we can do a short one. Okay, where do I start? Okay, the drop of 5% today and the overall drop of 9% in the Dow industrial averages. Is that bad, a drop of 9% since July 17th? What do you guys think, 9% bad?

Russ: hmm? No.

Tia: no? What do you think Skip?

Skip: no opinion from me because I don’t watch it.

Tia: okay, why you say no Russ?

Russ: because of the fact that 9% is merely a correction.

Tia: uh-huh and also, guess what?

Russ: hmm?

Tia: still up 7.2% since December 31.

Russ: oh, there you go.

Tia: so, it’s no biggie.

Russ: yeah, it’s just a correction.

Tia: uh-huh. Okay, Dow dropped nearly 50 points, in fact I think it dropped over 50 points. Since the correction has started it has lost over 7% of its value.

Russ: hmmm.

Tia: still up 14% though.

Skip: well that’s not going to affect anything.

Tia: no, it’s not.

Skip: it won't affect our economy as a regression or whatever.

Tia: no, it is an indicator on what is going on with the economy though. Now, you brought up something very good, the economy. Not even going to bother about the S&P 500's because they’re up there as well on the year, even though they were down quite a bit today. Okay, the economy. They are projecting for the next two quarters slow growth to a deficit growth.

Russ: hmmm.

Tia: they’re predicting that not just in your country but all over.

Skip: hmmm.

Tia: you’ve already seen it in the Orient. The Chinese have been preaching that they can maintain an 8% percent growth. Now it’s become more evident that they’re going to have to revise that look at maybe a 5% growth or even a 4% growth. That’s not good.

Russ: hmm.

Tia: they may even end up negative. Now, what is going on? Well, a few years ago I made the comments of the stock market acting four years behind, or the economy four years behind the policies of governmental officials. I may have been a little bit inaccurate, it may be as much as six, I’m not too sure, but let’s say for the sake of argument five years ago. Okay, five years ago you had a young, fresh democratic president in the White House with a Democratic House but they still were acting with policies made by a Republican president. For the last year and a half the economy has been booming so that means what?

Russ: that it's set for a fall.

Tia: no, what it means is that the Republican House, the Republican White House actually set in motion the boom.

Russ: hmm.

Tia: now, the policies that were being made at the start of the administration and the second year into the administration are starting to come into fruition. The plans that were laid down, the policies that were passed whilst there was still a Democratic majority in the house is now coming to fruit. Slower economy, they wanted to slow it down didn’t they?

Russ: uh-huh.

Tia: they’re slowing it down, they’re slowing it down. They’ve put the brakes on it and it's going into a slide, maybe even negative figures.

Russ: hmm.

Tia: I hate to say it, but in the next five years, guess what?

Russ: crash.

Tia: recession, not necessarily a crash, a slow recession, which in itself is not a bad thing. If you’re situated with something that everybody needs, everybody wants…..

Skip: money.

Tia: not necessarily money, what’s more important than money? Russ?

Russ: entertainment.

Tia: well, entertainment yes, but there’s something even more important than entertainment. I’ll give you a clue, in.......I.N. are the first two letters.

Russ: hmm.

Tia: second clue?

Russ: uh-huh.

Tia: I.N.F.. Well I was working on letters of two, I.N.F.O..

Russ: oh, information?

Tia: correct.

Russ: huh.

Tia: information. What is going on out in the world, how can I make more money, how can I plan a better existence?

Russ: hmm.

Tia: information, trading information, supplying information, collecting information. What medium is ideally situated for that?

Skip: computers.

Tia: uh-huh, and what setup is ideally suited for it?

Skip: Internet.

Tia: uh-huh, and who is set up for it?

Russ: me, me, me.

Tia: you’re going to take some bloody hits but stick with it.

Russ: oh, I’m not giving it up.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: I’m paying rent on it, no way I could give it up.

Tia: yeah, so you see? You made a good, good choice. You’re going to have to tighten your belt from time to time. Now the other thing that you have to do is be ruthless.

Skip: be what?

Tia: be ruthless.

Skip: okay sweetheart, I’m diversified……..

Tia: uh-huh.

Skip: I can’t be ruthless.

Tia: yes you can.

Skip: no, I cannot, I’m not built that way.

Tia: okay, why not? Being diversified is good as well.

Skip: well, I’m so diversified it’s ridiculous sometimes but anyhow, being ruthless, it's just like the………trying to put together here……..I can’t bring myself to charge a wage for my labor that contractors do and yet I still do the same work they do.

Tia: uh-huh.

Skip: if I could that wouldn’t being honest…

Tia: uh-huh.

Skip: because I’d be taking money away from people and I can’t do that.

Tia: do you charge more or less?

Skip: less than the contractors do.

Tia: uh-huh.

Skip: yeah, about half of what they charge.

Tia: that is what I thought, you got nothing to worry about. Because contractors, when the money becomes tight, people are going to turn around and go to the person that is not as expensive.

Skip: well they do that right now because I’ve got an excellent reputation of……

Tia: uh-huh, good craftsmanship.

Skip: yes.

Tia: okay, you are in the ideal situation to gather information.

Skip: oh true enough.

Tia: because by how they’re coming to you and how they are giving you information in a very obtuse kind of way, by listening to them.........for example walking around the shop, and you're with a customer and they're saying, "oh, this is expensive, that’s expensive" and if you remember back that maybe a couple years ago they would’ve gone, "oh yeah, that’s what I want" but they're not having it now because it’s out of their reach tells you what?

(Skip begins to cough a bit)

Tia: that they’re having a hard time with their finances.

Skip: right.

Tia: now one or two people doing that is normal and expected, everybody goes through a hard time. But, if it increases, that more of your customers are saying that, then you can relay that information to the appropriate sources, then they can plan accordingly.

Skip: uh-huh.

Tia: you’re trading information.

Skip: yeah, I got you.

Tia: uh-huh.

Skip: but being ruthless, that’s not in my makeup.

Tia: why would a house having no roof be not in your makeup?

Skip: well, being ruthless to me is taking things from people other than normal......

Tia: uh-huh.

Skip: okay?

Tia: uh-huh, I’ve just been called fluffy again.

Skip: but I can’t be unkind to people, okay?

Tia: oh, I understand.

Skip: and being ruthless is being unkind to people.

Tia: uh-huh. Well ruthless may not be the right word for you, maybe something like more competitive?

Skip: competitive I can understand darling.

Tia: uh-huh.

Skip: okay, I understand that.

Tia: competitiveness……..actually, I can think of a great example of competitiveness, just watch Heckle and Jekyll one of these days when they get in a competitive mood.

Skip: Heckle and Jekyll?

Tia: Maxxus and Naxxus.

(Ed note: names of Mark and I when we were brothers in Atlantis)

Russ: Mark and myself.

Tia: uh-huh, you just watch them when they get competitive, that’s endless fun.

Russ: laugh a minute.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: well, we have a laugh a minute.

Skip: well I compete with everybody…..

Tia: uh-huh.

Skip: in my field.

Tia: yes, in the business sense.

Skip: yeah.

Tia: but you can take it to extremes.

Skip: I can take it to extremes?

Tia: no, people can.

Skip: oh yeah, yeah.

Tia: it’s like the competitive nature of Heckle and Jekyll, Archie and Jughead and first of all, let’s talk about their computer rivalry.

Skip: yeah.

Tia: their computer competitiveness.

Skip: uh-huh.

Tia: and then their boating competitiveness.

Skip: in other words, what I’m doing is……..I’m in a good position.

Tia: yes, you are in a good position.

Skip: well the only problem I got darling is I retired from a full-time job and all I’m doing is pursuing my....I call it a handyman business because I do everything and anything for people that want anything done.

Tia: well that’s very good because it that means you’re very versatile, that you are capable……..and you’re in the ideal situation to gather information.

Skip: yeah.

Tia: people will always want somebody that has a skill at a reasonable price.

Skip: yeah.

Tia: that is a good skill.

Skip: well, my prices has always been reasonable…..

Tia: uh-huh.

Skip: I’ve always been just about half of what contractors are plus hiring people, I don't hire people, I work alone.

Tia: which is good.

Skip: yeah, and then I know what job's done and how it’s done.

Tia: so, Russell the Love Muscle…….

Russ: uh-huh?

Tia: do you have a question?

Russ: yeah, darling.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: why do they call you fluffy?

Tia: because my hair gets all fluffy when I get spicy.

Russ: ah, usually the cats get fluffy when they get like really playful and stuff.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: makes sense.

Tia: uh-huh, my hair starts to fluff up, just the tips.

Russ: okay, now darling, what would be the best way to make use of our information ability or gathering information at the Cyber Stop let’s say?

(Ed. note: a cyber cafe I co-owned at the time)

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: in which you……..





(Tia's back to finish what she started)

Tia: you could put a particular topic of the day, something that would be beneficial to everybody and kind of print it up. For example, a health sheet or a financial sheet or something that you can put on the countertop that has information.......let’s say, let's take heatstroke and heat exhaustion and you could pull it off the Internet, print it up and put it on the countertop where people could come in you would have something like symptoms, effects, end result if untreated, treatments and preventions.

Russ:  hmmm.

Tia: that way you are giving away a piece of information or, what you could do, is distribute it to various key locations where.........for example, to the bike shops, today’s health news, "it’s a hot day today, temperatures are expected to be in the mid-90s", "if you’re riding your bicycle, be aware of these facts".

Russ: hmmm.

Tia: "there is a chance of a thunderstorm today, if you’re going to be out on the lake, be aware of these facts", "or if you’re hiking, be aware of these facts". "What to do if there is lightning?" You see?

Russ: uh-huh.

Tia: myriad of different possibilities.

Russ: hmm.

Tia: and you could possibly supply it to shops that sell hiking equipment, trail mix and so on. Have somebody that runs out to do an errand and they could drop it off at bike shops and stuff.

Russ: hmm.

Tia: a free service that is giving away information for free and you can put a little blurb in there on the bottom courtesy of the Cyber Stop Café........location.

Russ: uh-huh.

Skip: uh-huh.

Tia: so not only are you doing a good deed, but………

Skip: you're advertising.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: interesting, okay.

Tia: okay, I better hop off as we have two more speakers.

Russ: okay sweetheart.

Skip: okay.

(Tia says goodbye in Durondedunn)

Russ: hmm.

(Kiri steps in to take over briefly)

Kiri: yo, fluffy has hopped off the futon. I’ll be back.

(Lyka is tonight's honored guest speaker)

Lyka: hi, hello.

Russ: greetings Lyka.

Lyka: yo.

Skip: greetings sweetheart.

Russ: nice to have you back again, it’s been a long time.

Lyka: uh-huh.

Skip: yes it has.

Lyka: okay, who needs their ass kicked?

(that gets Skip laughing hard)

Russ: a little rapier combat sweetheart?

Lyka: Tia says that you have a circle, I will not fight on holy ground.

Russ: I understand that, I was thinking right here on the futon.

Lyka: me stationary?

Russ: you bet.

Lyka: okay, whilst you go and get the equipment.......

Russ: okay.

Lyka: we will continue talking and Tia is going to get the headset.

Skip: been a long time sweetheart.

Lyka: uh-huh, it has.

Skip: in fact, what, almost two years I think?

Lyka: no, not that long.

Skip: yeah, it's been a real long time because I wasn't coming up through the winter.

Lyka: well, anyway, it doesn’t matter.

Skip: it doesn’t matter.

Lyka: anyway, how you doing?

Skip: if I could quit coughing I'm doing just great, I retired.

Lyka: from what?

Skip: from a steady job.

Lyka oh.

Skip: now I’ve got more work than I know what to do with.

Lyka: I plan to retire in about 500 years.

Skip: yeah.

Lyka: I plan to retire as General Lyka.

Skip: there you go, that works.

(Russ gets back with the fencing equipment)

Lyka: oh thunder.

Russ: I’ll give you the easy stuff, I'll give you the lightweight one.

Lyka: what’s that?

Russ: that’s a rapier.

Lyka: oh. You’ve lost your leg, down on one knee.

Russ: got the headset on yet?

Lyka: uh-huh, yeah.

(Ed. note: Lyka and I practice our swordsmanship but the long section of fencing has been edited out)

 Russ: you’re getting better at that stuff.

Lyka: don’t mess with the captain. And considering I was giving you an extra opportunity through lack of mobility, I think I did very good.

Russ: uh-huh.

Lyka: don’t you?

Russ: yes.

Lyka: okay………

Russ: I’m slowing down in my old age.

Lyka: I’m only 21.

Russ: the kids are beating me now.

Lyka: uh-huh.

Skip: right.

Lyka: uh-huh. Mind you, I’ve got more real life kills than you’ll ever have.

Russ: thank God. Not a factor I’ll be too proud of to say if I ever beat you at that.

Lyka: uh-huh, actually it’s something I’m too proud of either. I’ve stopped putting notches in my weapons.

Russ: well that’s good…..

Lyka: uh-huh.

Russ: that’s for the kids.

Lyka: yep, that’s for the lower echelons. Okay, what are we going to talk about, what do you want to know Skip?

Skip: I only have one regret.

Lyka: what’s that?

Skip: I can’t meet you in person, that's the only regret I got.

Lyka: well, I’m only 6'2".

Skip: I don’t care how tall you are.

Lyka: I was just thinking walking down one of your earth streets, on your arm,

Skip: that’d be neat.

Lyka: uh-huh.

Skip: because I’m just under six foot.

Lyka: I think we would be turning heads. The 21 year old.....

Skip: oh boy….

Lyka: uh-huh.

Skip: "look at that old fart with that young woman".

Russ: they would think, "that’s very nice that she’s walking her dad down the street".

Skip: yeah right.

Lyka: that’s better. Sorry, I had a finger problem, it locked briefly.

Russ: hmm. Now, we’ve always discussed the possibility of what it would be like if Karra or Tia or Kiri were all down here, it’s one of our favorite topics of conversation actually.

Skip: yes, that would be neat, it really would be.

Lyka: uh-huh.

Russ: oh yeah, life would be perfect, but well…….

Skip: I guess I’ve met them in a previous life though.

Lyka: uh-huh, I’d say so. I’m starting to get mine, are starting to pop in and out every so often.

Russ: well that’s good.

Lyka: I was just thinking walking down one of your earth streets in a short toga just below my butt.

(that gets a big laugh out of Skip)

Skip: that’s called a duck dress, darling.

Lyka: uh-huh.

Skip: just long enough to cover the quack.

Lyka: uh-huh, and enough to turn the head.

Skip: you got it.

Lyka: of course I would wear underwear that shows.

Russ: of course.

Skip: you want to turn heads for sure don’t you?

Lyka: uh-huh.

Skip: yeah right.

Lyka okay, short toga just to about there.

Russ: you know what would happen if that were to happen don’t you?

Lyka: what?

Russ: suddenly, we have a social disturbance and they'd have to declare Defcon two.

(Skip laughs pretty hard yet again)

Lyka: to answer your question, yes we did.

Skip: yes we did what?

Russ: you need to define the question first before you define the answer.

Lyka: I think Skip knows what the question is and it’s best not said.

Russ: okay.

Lyka: uh-huh.

Russ: I'm left out in the cold again.

Skip: okay.

Lyka: uh-huh.

Skip: yeah, I know you’re saying.

Lyka: uh-huh.

Skip: I’m sorry, my mind went someplace else there for a minute.

Lyka: for quite a few rotations as well.

Skip: okay.

Lyka: uh-huh, that came to me too.

Skip: yeah.

Lyka: no, there wasn’t.

Russ: oh boy, bloody Hell.

Lyka: what?

Russ: what?

Lyka: what?

Russ: well how am I supposed to edit this frickin webpage darling?

Skip: I’d still like to tap into that intelligence.

Lyka: okay.....uh-huh. Okay, webpage, webpage, webpage and I’ve got to be on it this time haven’t I? Okay……

Russ: afraid so sweetheart, sword fights don’t go well on webpages.

Lyka: okay, being a member of the Sirian Defense Force has given me the unique insight into the hostility and the vibrations and the aggressiveness of certain frequencies generated by being an Oath Keeper and learning how to balance that with a harmonic and peaceful experience. Being an Oath Keeper, it is sometimes necessary for myself and other Oath Keepers to be extremely aggressive and harsh and unforgiving. But, the other side of the coin is, even though we may harm other beings to the point of obliterating their existence, we do not forget that it is part of their learning experience that we have not robbed them from but have aided them through. Even though this sounds like a kind of glib way of looking at taking life, it is something that is necessary. It is not only necessary to look at it that way, that we are aiding them in their learning process and speeding them on to a next life so that they can reevaluate and redirect their focus, but also the fact that we are fulfilling an oath. Oaths are very important being that if you break an oath, first of all you are breaking allegiance with somebody and secondly the person that you’re breaking the oath with is really yourself. Why is it really yourself? Well this is very easy. If you make a promise, if you make an oath, that is giving yourself to another person and being prepared to follow through on that oath is very important because you are following through on your path. Most people make promises much too easily which is wrong. A promise is something that is a gift. A gift of yourself to somebody else for services. I promise to defend my home planet to my dying breath and the home planets and sister worlds that my planet has aided and promise to aid in the past, the present, and the future. I am an Oath Keeper, I swear by my life, trade my life so others may be free to make their own choices. That is just the start of our oath. The oath, the pledge, the gift of being an Oath Keeper is just that. We promise to aid the sister worlds of Sirius in their growth in whatever capacity it is deemed necessary. Is that good enough for your page?

Russ: that sounds pretty good.

Lyka: uh-huh.

Russ: that works well.

Lyka: can I take my captain's hat off now?

Russ: yes you may.

Lyka: okay.........bite me.

Skip: what you're…..

Lyka: uh-huh?

Skip: what you’re saying is something that's taken very lightly in this world.

Lyka: yes, I’ve noticed that actually. A lot of third dimensional planets do not take oaths and pledges of allegiance seriously.

Skip: I can tell you one other step beyond that.

Lyka: okay.

Skip: the ceremony of holy matrimony.

Lyka: well that’s an oath.

Skip: yes it is.

Lyka: uh-huh, that’s the most sacred of oath on your planet.

Skip: yeah and for many people......well, I can't.....

Lyka: uh-huh.

Skip: nevermind, I don't want to get into that.

Lyka: when I find my soulmate, my twin soul, then even though I have my oath as an Oath Keeper……

Skip: that other party you could commit to that oath also.

Lyka: correct. However, it’s slightly different up here. Having multiple partners, not at the same time but multiple partners, is again………it’s not frowned upon as it is on your planet.

Skip: uh-hmm.

Lyka: sex and love are two totally different things.

Skip: uh-huh.

Lyka: sex is for fun, entertainment, recreation........making love is a gift......

Skip: uh-huh.

Lyka: the gift of my body to my partner.

Skip: uh-huh.

Lyka: I have sex quite frequently, I don’t make love very often.

Skip: uh-huh.

Lyka: and that philosophy is common throughout Sirius and quite a few of the sister worlds. It is something that has helped the spiritual growth as well.

Skip: hmmm.

Russ: hmm.

Skip: that’s an interesting aspect.

Lyka: uh-huh. You see sexuality is enjoyable, being sexual is very enjoyable. Then why is it stated as being wrong in some civilizations?

Skip: well, it isn’t wrong per se but, according to our teachings….

Lyka uh-huh.

Skip: we’re supposed to be monogamous.

Lyka: uh-huh.

Skip: in other words, one partner period sexually or in love, okay? You understand where I’m coming from.

Lyka: oh yeah, yeah, as a rule I……

Skip: and, to be that way is very difficult.

Lyka: uh-huh. I only have as a rule, there are times where I do bend the rules and break the rules and throw the rules out the window, but as a rule I only have one. I’m monogamous at the time, I have one sexual partner at a time.

Skip: uh-huh, me too.

Lyka: I’ve been known to have more than one partner in a night.

Skip: well I don’t think I have, no, in fact I never have, not in one night.

Lyka: hey, it
gets mighty lonely on the battlefield sometimes.

Skip: oh I know.

Lyka: and one finds companionship and comfort wherever necessary.

See: yeah, it is, it is necessary.

Lyka: uh-huh, in combat, more so. I found that I get more closer to the people that I’m with and giving myself to them and them giving themselves to me is reaffirming life.

Skip: yeah, acceptable.

Lyka: uh-huh, and it helps to make a scary situation a little bit more bearable......

Skip: yeah.

Lyka: and a lot more fun too.

Skip: yeah.

Russ: so you don’t believe it’s true that you give a little of yourself each time you make love or have sex?

Lyka: you do give a little bit of yourself but you also get a little bit of the other person too.

Russ: right.

Lyka: so it kind of adds up.

Skip: that goes even with knowing a person.

Lyka: uh-huh.

Skip: you give a little bit of yourself to somebody you know…

Lyka: uh-huh.

Skip: but you also get a little bit something back from them.

Lyka: yeah. When I make love I totally submit to them.

Skip: uh-huh.

Lyka: and they do likewise. Well, you know when you’re having sex and when you’re making love, both partners know that.

Skip: yep.

Lyka: I’ve never had sex or I’ve never made love to somebody that's having sex with me. It’s always we make love or we have sex.

Russ: uh-huh.

Lyka: and both are just as enjoyable.

Skip: yeah.

Lyka: pity this can't go on the web. Well, edited creatively it might.

(Ed. note: no editing needed)

Skip: well, like I said, our laws and whatchamacallits are little bit different from yours.

Lyka: uh-huh.

Russ: morals?

Skip: morals, ethics, whatever you want to call them.

Lyka: uh-huh. Okay, I suppose I better put on the last boisterous one.

Skip: yeah.

Russ: okay love.

Lyka: hand back to fluffy.

Russ: thanks for a lovely little….

Skip: yeah, thank you, it’s been nice talking to you.

Lyka: uh-huh, I’ll be around for three more weeks.

Skip: okay.

Russ: good.

Lyka: uh-huh.

Russ: more sparring.

Lyka: oh yeah.

(Tia's back as ring mistress)

(Tia says hi in Duondedunn)

Russ: hi Tia.

Skip: hi baby.

Tia: now that was an interesting start wasn’t?

Skip: uh-huh.

Tia: I didn’t want Kiri on just yet. Okay, I’m going to hand over to the Kiri monster.

(Tia says goodbye in Durondedunn)

Skip: bye hon.

(It's Kiri's time to channel though we have to cut it short due to the late start)

Kiri: yo......yo, yo, yo, yo.

Russ: what’s up. Kiri?

Kiri: my libido.

Russ: of course, and any other surprises?

Kiri: no, apart from watching Lyka glow like a beacon.

Russ: well that’s good, of course Alana’s on the base isn’t she?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: ahh yes, just hasn't got off of school yet.

Kiri: no, she doesn’t go back........she goes back for a month and then she’s back here, back to class, back to being teached by.......Kiri. She leaves at the beginning of September, she spends a month taking classes and taking exams and stuff and then she comes back and then she’s got two more years which she’ll take one more month off to go back and take exams and stuff. I’ve given her six weeks.

Skip: hmm.

Kiri: she can take an extra two weeks off if she wants. Okay, warp core engines. Sucker, not going to do it. Let me see if I can get the right voice going, "not going to do it". Nah, doesn’t sound right, does it? "Wouldn’t be prudent at this juncture". So, what’s with the felines?

Russ: oh she’s being boisterous…..

Kiri: ahhh.

Russ: fluffy, you might say.

Kiri: oh, a Tia mood huh?

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: okay, what are we going to talk about?

Russ: well pretty much anything at this point.

Skip: I think it’s about time for me to head down the hill young lady.

Russ: it’s only 11:20.

Kiri: thank you.

Skip: huh?

Russ: it’s only 11:20.

Kiri: sessions almost over. We got about……

Russ: the night’s still young.

Skip: it might be your young but not my young.

Kiri: well he’s a young whippersnapper.

Russ: thank you, thank you Kiri.

Kiri: and how old are you?

Russ: a mere 38.

Kiri: oh.

Skip: 38…..

Kerry: uh-huh.

Skip: I wish I was 38 again.

Russ: well……

Kiri: I’m 60.

Skip: I got you beat darling.

Kiri: by how many?

Skip: five years.

Kiri: oh boring old fart, my sister's got you beat.

Skip: I know.

Russ: Karra’s got you way beat.

Skip: yeah, in this life.

Kiri: oh, well I am in this life.

Skip: no, I’m talking about me.

Kiri: oh. Personally, I want to live until I'm as old as my grandmother.

Skip: how old is that?

Russ: how is your grandmother?

Kiri: oh she’s doing fine, she’s got over her illness.

Skip: oh did she?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Skip: oh great.

Russ: glad to hear it.

Skip: she’s super.

Kiri: she’s back being as sarcastic and as facetious and as humble as always. She is what? 803 now I think.

Russ: great lady.

Kiri: uh-huh, and she doesn’t look a day over 700.

Skip: yeah right.

Russ: well, she has given us a lot of help in the past.

Skip: yes, she has.

Russ: she’s been invaluable……

Skip: oh, talking about your grandmother……

Kiri: uh-huh.

Skip: did that gentleman that was supposed to be my guide ever get in…..

Kiri: not yet, he’s still….

Skip: okay, no problem.

Kiri: he’s still fighting.

Skip: good.

Kiri: he still fighting and he’s……..he goes through phases where we think it could be any day…..

Skip: yeah.

Kiri: and then he gets better and then we think okay, it’s going to be a while yet and then he gets worse and at the moment he’s in one of those doing better.

Skip: super, glad to hear it, I can wait......

Kiri: uh-huh.

Skip: I’m patient.

Kiri: patience is very important. I think we gave him like two years and that was a year ago……..

Skip: yeah.

Kiri: and we're still giving him two years.

Skip: right, there you go. That’s okay, that’s fine, that's fine.

Kiri: did you......you and Lyka did, didn’t you?

Skip: I’m sorry.

Kiri: nevermind, it was just that Lyka bounced off giggling like a little schoolgirl. You made her blush.

Skip: oh yeah?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: what, calling her a young lady or something?

Kiri: she was giggling. Russ is too set in his ways to know what that means.

(Skip breaks out in laughter)

Russ: oh, walking down the street, I get it.

Skip: okay.......

Kiri: so what is it with these felines?

Skip: oh they play like that all the time darling.

Kiri: that’s right, they’re missing one, aren’t they?

Skip: yeah.

Russ: they'll never know it.

Kiri: yes they will, they will when it comes sleep time. They’ll have more room and think, "oh goody".

Russ: well good night, let’s cut it short.

Kiri: okay guys.

Russ: bye Kiri.

Skip: thank you darling, have a nice one.

Kiri: oh I intend to. I’ve got a dress to make and a........yeah, I've got to do…..

(Kiri goes into "Sound of Music" mode)

Kiri: "good night, farewell, it’s time to say goodbye".


(Tia comes back to end the session but not the recording)

(Tia says hi in Durondedunn)

Skip: hi sweetheart.

Tia: okay, this channeling session is now adjourned.

Skip: okay.

Tia: and I must say adieu to you, auf Wiedersehen to you.

Russ: all right darling.

Tia: uh-huh, and Russ?

Russ: huh?

Tia: don’t think too hard, it’s not within your grasp.

(Tia says something in Durondedunn)

Russ: I’ll see you next week.

(Tia departs with an Durondedunn joking insult and then a normal Durondedunn farewell)

(We chat while waiting for Mark to get back from the base)

Russ: we’ve been slamming.

Skip: I know.

Russ: it’s been fun, I love the business but man, it's just.......

Skip: you’re just going to have to take a little time for Russ.

(Mark coughs)

Russ: that will be the day. Hey Mark.

Skip: hi babe.

Russ: babe?

Skip: whatever.

Mark: I prefer dude. I’m 32 you know, I’m not a babe.

Skip: sure you are. Your half my age, you’re a babe.

Russ: yeah, some girls might think so Mark.

Mark: I was hoping for something more like a hunk.

Russ: hey, stay true here(?).

Mark: yeah, true, I’m happy as I am anyway.

Skip: hey….

Mark: oh.

Skip: well, I’m going to have to head down the hill. That lady pulled a hell of a lot of energy out of me tonight. Let’s stop on this.

Russ: same way as you hit the……………………………..


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