(Tia is trading off with Karra
for ring mistress duties for this session)
Tia: so quite and peaceful.
Russ: even nicer.
Russ: have to get used to it too.
Russ: it's a permanent condition.
Tia: oohhh, goody. Well, how's it functioning Russ?
Russ: within specified parameters.
Tia: okay. So, how's work going?
Russ: oh, not bad, not bad.
Russ: a little slow down here right now.
Tia: is that good or bad?
Russ: it's kinda good. Not too busy but kinda
Tia: I wish I had time to be bored.
Russ: well, I got a chance to do a lot of
transcribing on the tapes from before, specifically
your one on how to farsighting tape.
Tia: oh, how to farsight.
Russ: yes, it came off quite well.
Tia: oh goody.
Russ: I was able to add a few things into it that
you hadn't mentioned before.
Russ: well I've got one or two questions.
Tia: can I ask a question first?
Russ: of course.
Tia: can I become a business partner?
Russ: hmm, sure.
Tia: in your little venture with your audio thingamajigys?
Tia: oh goody.
Russ: Tia and company.
Tia: uh-huh. And I've got another question.
Tia: what's this Ta-Ta-Ta-Tia Pet?
Russ: Ta-Ta-Ta-Tia Pet?
Russ: it's all about a cha-cha-cha-Chia Pet.
Tia: what's that?
Russ: well you remember the movie "Wayne's World?"
Tia: "excellent dude, party on Garth".
Russ: that's them. In the very first part of the
movie they show a commercial for a thing called a
Chia Pet that we have down here.
Russ: a little clay figurine that you spread a
little mud with seeds in it. Pour water on it and it
Russ: it's all covered in green.
Tia: okay, so what's happening?
Russ: well, you seem excitable this evening?
Tia: what makes you say that?
Russ: your leg's going like crazy, your hands are
going like crazy, just a wild guess.
Tia: oh, well I'm.....work to do.
Russ: okay. Suppose we start off first off with the
farsighting and then we'll go to the regression.
Russ: all right? So starting off with the
Russ: during the transcribing I did tonight, I saw
something that was almost passed up concerning
shutting off the internal dialogue.
Russ: are there any known techniques that you might
be able to share with me on doing so?
Tia: yes, first of all, listen to things. Before
you're going into the farsighting, just listen to
what's going around you.
Tia: uh-huh. And then, you'll hear silence. You may
hear cars passing by down the road, you may
hear......let me think....felines playing around
Russ: I just put a clock in my room that ticks
Tia: uh-huh, that's a good one. And then slowly it
will just fade away. There's a song that goes on
about fading away.
Russ: yeah, the Grateful Dead.
Tia: how's it go?
Russ: "you know my love but don't fade away".
Tia: uh-huh, you know who likes the Grateful Dead up
Tia: uh-huh, your ba-ba-babesky.
Russ: you betcha, I've got her hooked now.
Russ: good, got two more concerts coming up for her.
Tia: yeah, she's looking forward to it.
Russ: all right.
Tia: you're going to have to bring up some Dead
tapes with you for her to listen to.
Russ: I will.
Tia: I've been listening to Mark's type of music. I
(Tia launches into Beethoven's Fifth)
(Tia now launches into some Mussorgsky)
Tia: come on, tell me what one that is.
Russ: that is Night on Bald Mountain.
Russ: Pictures at an Exhibition.
Russ: one of the two.
Tia: okay, right.
Russ: okay, now I assume then that the internal
dialogue shutting off is a major key.
Tia: could be.
Russ: and then I turn it on again after leaving.
Tia: for navigational purposes.
Tia: uh-huh. But you'll get to a stage where it's
not necessary to due to the fact that you'll get out
of your body so quick that it doesn't really matter
anymore. But in the early stages, it is necessary
for the internal dialogue to be shut down. Then,
having achieved this, you can slowly lift out of
your body having gone through all the breathing
cycles and opening up and closing up and energy
loops and what's cha ma call its and thingamajigys.
Got all that?
Russ: got all that.
Tia: okay. Then you rise up out of your body and
you're free, freeeeeeee!!!!!!!!
Russ: been hitting the flower garden again?
Tia: no, I'm just full of life.
Russ: glad to hear it.
Tia: uh-huh. No, I'm not in that kind of mood, I
just want to enjoy life.
Russ: well good, it is Easter.
Russ: Easter Sunday.
Tia: oh, that religious.......
Tia: it's not Sunday anymore.
Russ: no, that's true.
Tia: that religious thingamajigy of yours.
Russ: you betcha.
Russ: Spring celebration.
Tia: Spring has sprung, sproing.
Russ: all right, can I get a critique on this
morning's farsighting session.
Tia: do you want me to criticize that?
Tia: I'm not going to, I'm going to build up your
Russ: no, just kidding.
Tia: something you need is to build up your
confidence. The only thing I can criticize on is
that you do not give yourself enough credit for
Tia: you always want to be criticized, you do not
want to be praised and it's time for you to be
praised. Now, you did an excellent job. Did you
enjoy the massage?
Russ: wonderful massage.
Russ: did you enjoy the ice cream?
Tia: oh yeah, where did you get that from?
Russ: I get it down from here usually.
Tia: you brought it with you?
Tia: oh, Mr. Smarty-pants.
Russ: I think it was kinda brought along once I got
Tia: ahh, somebody plugged in and helped you to
manifest it, huh?
Russ: that's right.
Tia: yes well, I'll ask him. I've got another use
for ice cream.
Tia: no, god, clear your mind, it's way down in the
gutter. Food fight.
Russ: okay, now.....
Tia: no, that comes later.
Russ: a silver suit.....
Russ: does that stop the pull from the body?
Tia: yeah. Kind of cuts you off totally, doesn't it?
Russ: yeah, I was going to say, because I was up
there more than an hour.....
Russ: which is pretty much of a record for me.
Russ: and it seems that's the trick.
Tia: did Karra give you a full body massage on you?
Russ: much refreshed.
Russ: were there any like pinpoint leakage areas on
Tia: a few, a few around the seams. The top of the
head and the bottom of the feet.
Russ: I have to find the strong points and the weak
points to work on.
Tia: yeah. You could probably do double the
thickness on those.
Russ: double thickness, good.
Tia: and you need to be a little bit more
mirror-like on the inside.
Tia: a lot more mirror-like.
Russ: okay. Now then, where are we going off to on
Tia: let me see. How about doing a double trip?
Russ: a double trip?
Tia: yeah, both of them.
Tia: the next step.
Russ: okay, a double trip it is.
Tia: okay, we'll go to Sirius and then Centauri.
Tia: new coordinate for you. From Sirius to
Centauri, 227.021. Can you repeat?
Russ: got it. What's that?
Tia: that's the coordinates from leaving Sirius to
Russ: got it.
Tia: but I will help you with that. But, and this is
a big but, you will be leading the way to Sirius.
Tia: and then I will be riding alongside you to
Centauri and from Centauri we will be riding again,
me behind you following up and you'll be leading the
Russ: oh good.
Russ: now then....
Tia: incy wincy spider went climbing up the spout,
down came the rain and washed poor incy out.
Russ: okay. Now then, on the birth.....
Russ: any way for me to get notice of the birth
about a half-hour beforehand?
Tia: yeah sure, we can let you know at the
channeling session what's happening.
Russ: oh imagine that, right.
Tia: yeah, don't you think ahead?
Russ: yeah, I forgot that we were going to do that
Russ I figured with the birth coming up we wouldn't
Tia: oh, we've got time.
Russ: oh, okay then.
Tia: don't forget what Kornas' prediction was so
we're going to do it a little bit earlier than
Russ: 23:00 hours.
Tia: uh-huh. We're going to do it at 22:00 hours.,
the channeling session.
Russ: oh, 22:00 hours.
Russ: okay, got it.
Tia: or maybe a little bit earlier still.
Russ: okay. All right....
(Tia blows a raspberry)
Russ: now then, onto the regression.
Russ: okay, why was it stopped at that point?
Tia: okay, down to business, hmm?
Russ: hands-on hip, is this?
Tia: yes this is.
Russ: okay, now we're going to go into a few
questions here where some might be answered and some
might not be answered.
Tia: well, Omal's kind of sitting talking to Miss
Secretary historian so he's preoccupied. I'll see
what I can do.
Russ: okay. Well then, we'll start from square one.
Is that Maxxus' sword?
Tia: oohhh, I don't know. You'd have to ask....
Tia: now I'm not blowing you off, I'm telling you
the truth. I don't know.
Russ: I understand. Okay, now then, where did the
ones with the pointed ears......yourself come
Tia: come on.
Russ: different planet from the original Atlanteans?
Tia: the original Atlanteans were made up out of
many groups of people. They were a group of people
that came together, so rumor has it, that decided
they wanted to create a world that, although
struggle would be necessary, they could leave behind
all the things that they disliked. And they all had
one goal to settle down and to create a world with
perfect harmony, balance between their species and
nature, but they brought a disease with them.
Russ: oh oh.
Tia: the disease of corruption of the mind...
Tia: lust for power. Somebody wanting to lord it
over the others so they created this council........
Tia: to help put a stop to this. Hopefully by
peaceful means, if not by using metaphysical
capabilities and failing that by bloodshed.
Russ: ahhhh. So where did the pointed eared ones
come into this, they were one of the groups that
were part of this?
Tia: yes, there are one of the main groups.
Russ: I get it. Okay.
Tia: don't forget, there were many thousands of
them. Well not many thousands but close to about
20,000 of them.
Russ: now did Mark open up a doorway for them then
to go off at that point.......
Russ: before you stopped him?
Tia yes, that was the reason why I stopped him.
Russ: because that was a doorway into another
dimension? So they actually could travel anywhere
except to from where the point where they were
Tia: I don't know, I don't know. You'd have to again
ask the accompanying historian and secretary.
Russ: good. Now then, the lightning that struck his
Russ: is that a memory clue then?
Tia: yeah, that awoke him, it awoked his memory from
Tia: you see, putting the whole entire combination
together and on the suit of armor and the sword and
myself, that started to awaken, that's what drew him
out onto the promontory, you see?
Tia: and from there the lightning striking the sword
caused severe mental damage and he briefly died but
opened up the pathways for his memories to be
Russ: now, can we explore other lives besides that
Russ: without getting shut down too quickly?
Tia: depends what sort of life it is.
Russ: okay. I'll just play around with what we've
Russ: should we get help first?
Tia: yes, it might be best to channel beforehand.
Russ: okay, so channeling first, all right.
Tia: do you have more questions for me?
Russ: one or two, yeah.
Russ: how did you move the boat, is that with PK?
Tia: Mark moved the boat.
Russ: Mark moved the boat?
Russ: I didn't realize he was doing it. Now that's
something. He didn't, during the regression, he
seemed like he was more or less kind of lost as far
as what was going on, just kind of watching.
Tia: on for the ride.
Russ: right. But back then, it would've been
different, he knew what was going on.
Tia: his subconscious would know what's going on.
Tia: not him.
Russ: so that is why he is kind of lost in this one?
Russ: oh I get it, okay. Now any idea on whether the
elves and man can exist together again if that
doorway were opened up?
Tia: I doubt it very much.
Tia: because you, man, has become too aggressive,
will not tolerate change. Take some of your popular
entertainment for example.
Russ: yeah, it's pretty violent.
Tia: uh-huh. Especially the fictional future
programs. Like what's Mark's favorite comment about
the movie "Alien"? His chest explodes?
Russ: oh yeah.
To: what's it, who's this? Something moving around
inside his chest?
Russ: okay. But now what connection do the elves
have with you guys up there?
Tia: I'm sorry, I cannot disclose that.
Russ: okay, that's it.
Tia: that's it, okay.
Russ: that's it.
Tia: thank you for an enjoyable conversation.
Russ: thank you Tia. You off for now?
Tia: yes I am. Possibly I may be back in a little
while. We will see how things go.
Russ: okay. Going to track down Mark?
Tia: no, I'm going to wait and see what happens here
Tia: now have an enjoyable evening........
Russ: all right.
Tia: and I know I'm being frightfully formal all of
Russ: oh that's all right.
Tia: but that will be explained.
Russ: excellent. Okay, thank you Tia.
Tia: you're welcome. I'm honored to be here. Bye
(Ashtar is tonight's guest of
Ashtar: greetings and felicitations Mr. Hatfield.
Russ: greetings Korton.
Ashtar: try again please.
Russ: ahh, Ashtar.
Russ: greetings and felicitations.
Ashtar: it may amuse me sometimes to pretend to be
Russ: well, this evening you're serious I take it.
Ashtar: now, concerning your brainstorming questions
that you were discussing the other evening after
your channeling session.
Ashtar: I believe it was Thursday morning, correct?
Ashtar: okay, now, certain questions occurred at the
time concerning the purpose of the pyramids. Such
as, are they communication devices?
Ashtar: yes they are. Are they teleportation
devices? Yes they are.
Ashtar: are they information collection devices? Yes
they are. And there is more besides that will become
clear later. All pyramids built to the
specifications of the Great Pyramid are collection
devices for information. Some to a greater or lesser
extent. Again, with certain materials, they can also
be used for communication. And again, with certain
materials, for teleportation both physically and
astrally. However, it is unwise to experiment at the
present with materials pertaining to the
teleportation device. You do not have the technology
or the power supply to do so.
Ashtar: so any present wish to experiment is
inadvisable due to the failure that will occur and
may affect you physically or mentally.
Russ: well we're not too anxious to try that right
Ashtar: good. Do you have more questions?
Russ: okay. Are there more crystals within pyramids
that are around the earth?
(Ed. note: such as the one found in an underwater
pyramid by a dentist)
Ashtar: that is for you to find out.
Russ: do the crystals turning in one direction or
the other affect the energy levels in those areas?
Ashtar: again, that is for you to find out.
Russ: would, after Mark has experimented, be
advisable for me to possibly check these places out?
Ashtar: only after discussion on what has occurred.
Russ: okay. Was Mark involved with the building of
the Great Pyramid?
Ashtar: that is a correct assumption. Next question.
Russ: okay. That's it.
Ashtar: no more questions?
Russ: anymore that I get, would get into some
dangerous ground. I don't want to go into that right
Ashtar: let's find out how dangerous, proceed.
Russ: okay. Is the Earth's magnetic force field
controlled by these pyramids?
Russ: okay. Is the Earth's tilt controlled by these
Russ: okay. Could the Earth's rotational field the
affected by these pyramids?
Ashtar: depending on several circumstances that
would have to occur for it to affect the rotational
Russ: okay, so what it is is a source of power of
Russ: okay. Is the pyramid in Egypt connected with
the pyramid on Mars?
Ashtar: we cannot answer that at present because you
are not ready for that kind of information.
Ashtar: although I feel that you have certain ideas
that they are.
Ashtar: those are ideas only at present.
Russ: okay. Is it advisable for Mark possibly to
check out the pyramid on Mars?
Ashtar: not at present. When the time is appropriate
you will know.
Russ: okay. Are there pyramids on the moon?
Ashtar: that is irrelevant information.
Russ: okay. Is the pyramid.....
Russ: okay. Can it be so again?
Ashtar: possibly, with practice.
Russ: okay. And, we can go to you guys on Hades Base
for advice in all phases of our experimentation from
this point on?
Ashtar: yes, correct, you can.
Russ: okay, preferably before we try anything.
Russ: okay. Excellent.
Ashtar: that is all.
Russ: thank you.
(Karra now takes on one of her
early roles as ring mistress)
Karra: greetings beanpole, coast is clear now.
Russ: hi Karra.
Karra: what happened?
Karra: there was a question where you started to ask
something about a pyramid and he just said yes.
Russ: I was about to ask were landing areas for
Karra: and he said what?
Karra: and he explained something.
Russ: and I said could they be so again and he says
Karra: yes with practice. I don't understand that
little bit about practice. Practice on construction?
Russ: probably. Or else Taal would just have to get
it right the first time.
(Ed. note: one of the base pilots)
Karra: yes. Could be a very pointy matter.
Russ: oh, that's horrible.
Karra: come on, give me a break, I'm not a comedian.
Russ: you're getting close.
Karra: oh yeah?
Russ: have fun today?
Russ: good. Enjoy the ice cream?
Karra: I've got better uses for ice cream.
Karra: hmm? We exchange ideas. Tia is sitting here
Russ: I can imagine. I've got a very important
question for you.
Russ: when will we do a bonding?
Karra: whenever you wish. I am an old-fashioned lady
that likes to do it formally. The request,
presumably that was a request?
Russ: yes it was.
Karra: aren't you going to get down on one knee and
ask me? Aren't you meant to........hold on, let's
see if I can do this.
(Russ laughs as she gets on one knee)
Russ: do I have to ask your father or anything?
Karra: if you can find him.
Russ: okay, that should be a good one.
Karra: uh-huh. And I'll give you a clue on where he
Karra: okay? He lives on Sirius....
Karra: and, hold on a second. Okay, Tia says she'll
Russ: oh, great.
Karra: uh-huh. I'm going to give her a letter of
Karra: and she is going to take it with her. She is
going to go tonight to give the letter of
introduction to explain everything....
Karra: she will take you to his place of residence.
Russ: excellent. So we'll go to there from Hades
Base in the fifth and just stay in the fifth.
Russ: and won't switch over back to third.
Russ: perfect. What is your father like? Should he
have a shotgun like I should watch out for?
Russ: what are you doing with daughter type of
Karra: no. But be careful, that's where Kiri gets
her coercion from.
(Russ laughs again)
Russ: oh boy.
Karra: and he's a manifestor and he's a PK person,
Russ: PK head.
Karra: uh-huh, and that is what he specializes in.
Russ: so I could be tossed out the door without him
actually touching me?
Karra: that is where I get my mellowness from, my
Russ: I can see that.
Karra: uh-huh. I would like to go but unfortunately
I have work to do.
Russ: so you get your healing from your mom I take
Russ: hmm, is she up there?
Karra: no. My mother is waiting rebirth.
Russ: I'm sorry to hear that.
Karra: that's quite all right.
Karra: she was much older than my father.
Russ: oh. Okay, well I look forward to meeting your
Karra: you'll enjoy yourself.
Russ: hi pops.
Karra: just remember, be very polite to him.
Russ: serious or......?
Karra: yes, very serious.
Russ: serious on Sirius.
Karra: uh-huh. He's very well educated as well. Even
for our standards, he's extremely educated.
Russ: to have a daughter like you he'd have to be.
Karra: oh thank you.
Russ: it's obvious.
Russ: okay great, I look forward to it.
Karra: uh-huh. And guess who gets my mother's
Karra: uh-huh. But she did go and ask our father
when she wanted to get bonded.
Karra: she went and asked him if it was all right.
Was: so in other words, your dad is getting all this
requests all of a sudden.
Karra: well, Kiri had it planned. She asked
about....oh, two months ago. She sent Tia to ask for
her taking a little package.
Russ: hmm, okay.
Russ: I'll have to practice my manifestation and
bring a nice bottle of wine or something.
Karra: no, just go as you are.
Russ: that always kind of worries me, meeting the
Karra: uh-huh. He's very serious but can be
mischievous as well.
Karra: but whatever you do, don't upset him.
Karra: be polite.
Russ: agreed, I'll be scared to death.
Karra: uh-huh. Okay.
Russ: all right, on the birth....
Russ: are you going to be doing the delivery?
Karra: yes I am.
Russ: okay, so I'm going to be waiting outside then?
Karra: I don't know if I'll be able to channel that
night. I might be sitting with Kiri keeping her nice
Russ: I understand. That's all right.
Russ: I'll see you afterwards.
Karra: of course.
Russ: anyway, today the farsighting.
Russ: that was kind of cute, the Wonderful Wizard of
Russ: we're off to see the wizard.
Karra: uh-huh, "the wonderful Wizard of Oz. The
Wizard of Oz".....oh, before I forget.....
Karra: can I come?
Russ: to where?
Karra: "trucking, down on Bourbon Street...."
Russ: oh, of course you can, I would not have it any
Karra: "riding that train, high on cocaine........".
Karra: "lift up your mind and float downstream".
Wasn't that done by another group?
Russ: the Beatles, yes. And the Grateful Dead tried
Karra: hmm. Yes, it was amusing. Oh by the way.....
Karra: guess what I'm wearing at the moment?
Russ: nothing? Wishful thinking.
Karra: try again.
Russ: that cute, little short.....
Karra: something very Deadish.
Russ: what did you do? Do a tie-dye for yourself?
Russ: ohh, I've got a deadhead, all right.
Karra: yep, you've done it this time boy.
Russ: well wear it to the concert.
Russ: I better not tell your dad about this though.
Karra: no. That you've corrupted his daughter.
Russ: yes, he'll definitely PK me right out of the
Karra: uh-huh. Oh, before I forget, have your
shields on maximum.
Russ: oh boy. You did mention him and farsighting.
Karra: yeah, it's going to be a workout for you.
Russ: big time workout.
Karra: Tia may change the plans on going to Alpha
Russ: well let's go ahead and let's go with original
plans. I might want to wait a week before I go to
your dad's just yet so I can practice shielding and
farsighting at the same time.
Russ: right now I can't do shielding.
Russ: well, that's only fair.
Russ: besides, when we go bonding, I want to have
full solidity if I can.
Russ: and length, I want to be there for a while.
Karra: okay. I'm going to go off and find Mark and
Kiri and tell them the good news.
Russ: okay, excellent.
Karra: I've got to tell Kiri to keep her mouth shut
so she doesn't send any messages to our father.
Russ: yeah, let it be a surprise.
Karra: uh-huh, because she'll be excited.
Russ: yeah, I don't want to give him any ideas of
who I am just yet.
Karra: no, I'll tell her to behave herself.
Russ: all right, thank you.
Russ: okay, bye Karra. I'll see you later.
(Omal gets us over to side two)
Omal: greetings and felicitations Russ.
Omal: yes. Korton is unavailable. Wishful thinking
though maybe that you wished to communicate with
Russ: I don't know, he was pretty upset this
Russ: well serious anyway.
Omal: there were certain things that occurred that
annoyed him intently.
Russ: who me?
Russ: oh good.
Omal: concerning the........
(Omal now continues with what
he has been saying)
Omal: .........said during a channeling session
that was happening.
Russ: oh, Luna.
Russ: well I thought her releasing information
that she didn't......
Omal: Luna had nothing to do with that whatsoever.
That was a necessary trigger, so I was informed,
and yes I am a little bit annoyed about it.
Russ: oh, so we were right on that subject?
Omal: yes, after all.....
Russ: she was used horribly.
Omal: yes. After all, who is the head of Hades
Russ: you are.
Omal: correct. So, when something like that
happens or somebody comes up with an idea, are
meant to come to me and then proceed. Even if it
Russ: how is she doing now?
Omal: we did a pretty good job on patching her
together. We got her ego back up, her self-esteem
back up and.....
Russ: she's not terrified against channeling
Omal: she's a little bit scared and she will be
channeling. We used one of your earth analogies
about falling off a horse and getting straight
Russ: oh good, that's a good analogy.
Russ: well, it was effective, I have to admit
Russ: it accomplished more than I can almost
Russ: but yeah, it should've been gone through
Omal: of course.
Omal: he agreed with Ashtar's approach that he
didn't have time. All's he had to do was ask
telepathically which he did not. And.....
Russ: was he afraid you guys might say no or
Omal: what Ashtar has in mind is Ashtar's
Omal: but Korton and myself disagreed intently for
the first time in a long time on this issue.
Russ: oh. Is that what that was?
Russ: oh, yeah because he wasn't speaking to
Omal: Ashtar sometimes interferes where it's not
Omal: unfortunately causes friction occasionally
which can be a very beneficial thing.
Russ: well was the topic that was mentioned like
not supposed to be mentioned?
Omal: we assumed that it was not to be mentioned.
Russ: so that's why when you told Luna not to say
anything and then all of a sudden that was all she
Omal: yeah. She was very confused because she
didn't realize what she had said.
Omal: she was totally unaware of what was
happening at that point.
Russ: oh, so she channeled......
Omal: yes, basically.
Russ: basically, right.
Omal: she was coerced and it was only briefly
whilst the information was released and then the
link was broken.
Russ: oh, because I was going to say it was really
strange how that all started off.
Russ: one minute we're just talking, the next
minute, "do you have any questions on history?"
Omal: yes, that was Luna at that point when she
was starting to be coerced. And then when it got
to your concerned question about the Great
Russ: I assume I was coerced at that point.
Omal: yes, there was a lot of coercion going on.
Russ: I can imagine. But that was not a question I
had set to ask there, it wasn't even written down.
Omal: it just happened.
Omal: I must congratulate you on the silence in
the room and the temperature.
Russ: oh, thank you. It is an improvement by a
Russ: now we have clearer recordings, much more
Omal: of course.
Omal: okay now, let's get serious for a minute.
Omal: oh, by the way, congratulations.
Russ: on what?
Omal: your proposal.
Russ: oh, thank you, I hope you'll be there.
Omal: yes, I am glad to be the first to
Russ: I'm glad you are, I have been thinking about
it for quite a bit.
Omal: uh-huh. Are you going to get her pregnant
Omal: in the kitchen?
Russ: in the kitchen, right.
(Russ starts to laugh)
Russ: but I won't tell her that of course.
Omal: she may enjoy it.
Russ: she might enjoy it now that I think about
it, she is a motherly kind of girl.
Omal: the sixth one for her, with luck.
Russ: okay, now Ashtar's questions there just a
few minutes ago.........
Russ: and my questions.........
Russ: some of this stuff goes to you, some of this
stuff goes to Luna.
Russ: okay. Now, some of this stuff to
you........oh, is Tia there?
Omal: yes she is.
Russ: oh good. Okay now then, the question was,
was that Maxxus' sword? She said you might know.
Omal: I can't release that kind of information.
I'm sorry, I'm trying to be cooperative.
Russ: oh that's all right, I'm rather glad I asked
you and not Luna to where we had the same problem
we had last time.
Omal: well we've already discussed issues that she
can discuss and she will ask me if there is a
question so be prepared that she may ask a
question that may be directed at me but you may
Russ: okay, I'll just be quiet for a few.
Russ: okay, now then, that's my next question.
What are my guidelines for questions here? So I'm
not asking stuff that's just going to be confirmed
Omal: there are no guidelines for the simple
reason how can you find out what questions to ask
and what questions not to ask? With Luna, do not
ask questions that would put her in a bad
Russ: okay, I'll try to save a few words for you
Russ: now, going onto the armor....
Russ: now Tia says that was insulation and it was
made of the same material.
Russ: we're talking about an armored suit made of
Russ: we're talking about ancient history at that
Russ: so, we can assume a lot of things from that.
Omal: such as?
Russ: stuff that I can't ask you because you can't
Russ: such as, did it come from Atlantis?
Russ: that is confirmation or.......?
Omal: no. That is neither confirmed nor denied.
(that gets Russ laughing hard)
Russ: sure sounded good for a second though.
Omal: didn't it? You've got to admit.
Russ: I was like, "oh my God, he said after this".
Omal: and don't ask me about that,
Russ: I won't.
Omal: I shall show you a side of me that you do
not want to meet.
Russ: I never want to meet that side if I don't
have to either.
Russ: okay. Now, any idea on what the connection
of Richard of Gloucester had with the elves?
Omal: ask Luna, she would have more access to
Russ: oh good. I have an idea of what I can ask
Omal: uh-huh. In fact, she is pounding away on her
typewriter that is connected into a computer like
crazy when you asked that.
Russ: okay, that's good. Now then, let me go back
to my list here. Oh yes, we have a
Omal: oh, good.
Russ: that we picked up.
Russ: I'm going to send Raya out the tapes
Russ: so that she can get an idea of what the
sessions sound like first before we work on get
her connected up on the speakerphone.
Russ: I don't want any surprises here.
Omal: you don't want Tia getting all anxious over
Omal: Tia is being taken care of on that.
Russ: okay, that's good. We won't worry about that
Omal: we have reasons to believe that they have
Russ: ahhhhhh, well congratulations on all counts,
Omal: hopefully, yes.
Omal: we shall have the results back from the test
and Tia is aware that we did test her to see if
she was pregnant. So we're not hiding this as
Karra tried to.
Russ: okay, not very successfully.
Omal: no. Perhaps you ought to work out some hand
signals some time.
Russ: we'll work on it. Now then, talking with
Raya, are we going to be dealing strictly with
farsighting but are we going to open this up to
general questions once in a while also?
Omal: we will see how things proceed.
Russ: okay but in discussing this with the Raya
for now, let her know that we'll just dealing with
Russ: for the first part here.
Omal: well actually, for the very first time it
will be reacquainting ourselves with each other.
Russ: ahh, I see, okay.
Omal: okay, now I'd like to clear up something.
Omal: the other day when you were discussing the
plans with Mark for the channeling sessions with
Raya, you seem to be laboring under the impression
that we will do this channeling session with Raya
and then that will be it, end of session. That is
true to a certain extent apart from we will take a
break and that will be the end of the channeling
session with Raya and then we can get down to
other business after the break.
Omal: it is important that you explain this to the
channeler so he doesn't do a dimension jump.
Russ: oh okay, excellent.
Russ: I'll explain it when he gets back.
Russ: now, so go ahead and when should we start
working on setting this up? After she has the
tapes and stuff?
Russ: okay, so I'll keep in conversation with
Russ: and we'll be testing out the speakerphone to
make sure how it works.
Russ: have it all set up for the time when we're
going to do it.
Russ: that's it.
Omal: I am going to hand over to a very shy young
Omal: who goes by the name of.....
Russ: I only have a couple questions for her so
I'll make it short.
Omal: and I will sit here and I will hold her hand
and Tia is......if you could see this you would
Russ: I'm sure I would.
Omal: Tia has her foot on her lap going, "this
little piggy went to market".
(Russ finds that funny)
Omal: and I think Luna is enjoying herself. Well,
okay, I will now hand over.......
Russ: thank you Omal.
Omal: so, be careful.........
Russ: all right.
Omal: don't forget, do not ask questions that will
put Luna in an awkward position.
Russ: all right, good deal.
(We hear from Luna for the
first time in the archives)
Luna: greetings Russ.
Russ: greetings Luna. How are you doing?
Luna: how am I? How are you?
Russ: I am doing very good.
Russ: sorry for the incident the other night.
Luna: yes, thank you.
Russ: it was out of our control if I understand
Luna: yes. I've never met Ashtar so I didn't know
what was happening. And the way Omal described it,
it seemed that I was the perfect tool.
Russ: well that is the way he works sometimes.
Russ: I'm quite used to it. It takes a while to
get used to it.
Russ: right, I'd like to go......
Luna: what's that?
Russ: oh, that's probably the heater.
Russ: now, Omal said I could ask you a question
about Mr. Richard of Gloucester.
Luna: oh yes.
Russ: and the connection he had with elves.
Luna: as far as I can tell, he disbelieved in
elves but he had an interest in dark magic.
Luna: he assumed that his power was something to
do with his belief in it. But it's very hard to
deduce the facts.
Russ: so if he thought they were witches?
Russ: they would've thought he was dealing with
Luna: yes, and using it to his advantage.
Russ: oh I see. So to him it just represented
Luna: yes, a means to an ends.
Russ: I see.
Russ: real nasty work there.
Luna: no worse than some of the other people then.
Russ: that's true, power was the main.....
Luna: the goal.
Russ: sure, motivation for a lot of people back
Russ: still is sometimes.
Russ: okay. You might want to ask Omal if you can
answer this or not but the question is, where did
Luna: can I answer that one Omal? He says no.
Russ: okay, we'll move on from that.
Russ: okay. What marked them as being different
from others such as powers and stuff?
Luna: marked who?
Russ: the elves.
Luna: oh. They.......Omal, can I answer that one?
Luna: they believed that it was a gift from their
Luna: they were more of a pale imitation of what
they were. They did not know their full history of
where they came from. They knew that they had been
on the planet a long time but they did not know
what they were.
Luna: they mainly had manifestation, telepathy,
and farsighting and a few of them had
Russ: what about precognition?
Luna: they believed that that was messages from
their spirits that came in.
Russ: oh I see. So that fits in real well with our
Russ: ahhh, okay. Now did they have extended
Luna: yes they do. In fact, an elf born at the
time of the Duke of Gloucester would possibly
still be alive now although there would be a
decrease in their life expectancy now so that they
would look old or possibly be even dying.
Russ: now our legends say that they have
difficulty with procreation.
Luna: yes, that is why they live a long time.
Russ: oh, I see. Okay, so they just forgot
basically their origins.
Luna: yes, they did.
Russ: oh, so they found themselves sort of at war
with the humans still.
Luna: yes they did because they did not know
whence they came from.
Russ: it must've been a terrible position they
were put in.
Luna: well, they didn't know any other way.
Russ: that's true.
Russ: well could you ask Omal if you can answer
what happens to them after they died?
Luna: Omal, what happens to them when they die? He
says that it's not necessary....is that right? Not
necessary for you to know at present.
Luna: did I get that right Omal? I did fine.
Russ: well you're doing very well this time.
Luna: yes, he's sitting here generating feelings
of contentment, he's helping me a lot.
Russ: well good. Yes, it's quite impressive. When
I went up there today.....
Russ: I didn't sense you anywhere around.
Russ: were you busy?
Luna: yes, I had a lot of work to do.
Russ: hmm, okay.
Luna: would you like to come over for some drinks
next time you're up here?
Russ: yes I would as a matter fact. I'll look
forward to stopping by. I know where you're at
Russ: good. And you heard I assume the news about
Karra and I bonding?
Luna: yes, she told me just as she was leaving.
When I do secretarial work, I hear the words but
they....they.....I don't know what the words would
be. Omal, what are the words I'm looking for? Oh,
I hear the words but they don't mean
Luna: of course I am busy with
Luna: thank you.
Russ: now you being a historian.....
Russ: is this interesting for you now because it's
sort of like history in the making?
Luna: yes. All that happens around me I keep in my
journal. All the people I entertain, I keep a
record in my journal.
Russ: oh, okay. Well I look forward to coming up
and being entertained and being in your journal.
Luna: yes, goodbye.
(Tia returns to spend time
talking before handing off to Kiri)
Tia: it amuses you?
Russ: yes it does. Hi Tia.
Tia: hey man.
(Tia tries to sing some Pink Floyd)
Tia: "Hey dude, out there in the cold,
smoking".........I can't ad lib.
Russ: that was well done though.
(we sing a little of Pink Floyd's "The Wall")
Russ: all right.
Tia: who's Goldie Hawn?
Russ: she's an actress.
Russ: she's the "boo boop de boop" girl.
Tia: "boo boop de boop".
Russ: that's it.
Tia: where does that come from?
Russ: "Laugh In", an old 60s program.
Tia: uh-huh. No, never mind, it's before my time.
Hey that's good, that's good coordination.
Russ: that is very good.
Russ: so you'll be at the bonding party I take it?
Russ: there will be a lot of parties this month.
Tia: yep. As I am the only one that is already
Tia: it seems like I'm going to be giving a lot of
Russ: yes, a lot of parties.
Tia: uh-huh. Well one I'm already organizing on a
Russ: okay, that's true.
Tia: yeah. Did Omal tell you that I may be....?
Russ: yes, in the family way.
Russ: congratulations, I hope.
Tia: I hope so too.
Russ: well you'll know before everybody else
Tia: I want a boy and a girl.
Russ: well you'll probably get both.
Tia: uh-huh, maybe triplets.
Russ: maybe, I'm looking forward to whatever
Tia: I hope triplets, I wonder if I can manipulate
inside and have three girls?
Tia: well why not?
Russ: well you wanted a boy and a girl, what about
a boy and two girls?
Tia: well identical triplets would be fun.
Russ: it would be hell, I mean they would be
Tia: like me.
Russ: you might change your mind on that one.
Tia: how about two girls and one boy?
Russ: that works.
Tia: okay, right. Well, I'm going to go and make
Tia: give Mark and Kiri extra time together and I
believe Karra has run down to tell them the news.
Russ: I'm looking forward to seeing you guys all
Tia: and I think Kiri's asking Mark to coach her
while she's delivering.
Russ: good. I'll be waiting.
Tia: yep. Okay, and what's your tradition, cigars?
Tia: yep, okay. Well, as Kiri might say, I'm out
Russ: oh yes. I hope you have a wonderful time,
see you soon.
(Kiri begins to channel but not
Kiri: what's happening?
Russ: we got the double trouble now here, huh?
Russ: nothing can stop you.
Russ: did you get a chance to follow the
conversations this evening?
Kiri: I did, yes.
Kiri: so as soon as this is done with...
Kiri: I am going to give you a severe thumping.
Russ: oh you are?
Russ: well let's see if I can recall why this
would be. Nope, can't think of a thing.
Kiri: "cor, Kiri looks fat".
(Russ bursts out laughing)
Russ: that's all right, I'll be saying it to Karra
pretty soon too.
Kiri: okay, I'll tease her rotten.
Kiri: I'll know what she's been through after
Russ: oh, Tia.......
Kiri: oh, I've got to go.
Kiri: my water's spilling.
Was: all right, bye.
(Korton comes on to finish
out the channeling session)
Korton: greetings and solicitations Russ. Well,
everybody has left apart from Omal and myself.
Russ: that's it, just you two?
Korton: just us.
Russ: God, I'm crushed.
Korton: they're leaving as we talk, Luna as well.
Russ: so things are happening quick.
Korton: yes, a little bit sooner than was
Russ: well only by an hour and a half exactly.
Korton: yes. So they are rushing off with Kiri and
well, what do you wish to discuss?
Russ: what is there to discuss at this point?
Korton: well there is the issue concerning a
regression I believe.
Russ: oh yes. Concerning that regression, it was
Russ: bit of fortuitous advances there you might
Korton: yes, concerning certain instruments of
Russ: yes, the sword in particular.
Korton: uh-huh. Next question please.
Russ: okay. Well, when Ashtar was in, we were
discussing the effects of the earth's rotational
Korton: uh-huh, concerning crystals as well.
Russ: crystals as well.
Korton: and you wish to know if all the crystals
rotated in one direction, what effect would that
have. Or in the opposite direction......
Korton: or if they should be half of them rotating
in one direction, half rotating in another?
Russ: I hadn't thought of that but yeah.
Korton: it is necessary for you to learn this of
your own accord but, by the time that you reach
the stage where you can use all of the crystals,
then you will be advanced enough to know to be
aware of the dangers and will also learn the
correct rotational pattern.
Russ: now, the story I've got is that the
Brotherhood of the Light has got a crystal in
South America rotating.
Russ: I'm not sure what direction but the effects
on the area surrounding that have been markedly
Russ: energy wise. And the energy is in a positive
Russ: so, we can see from there that the other
crystals would be equally affected.
Korton: yes. It would generate a more harmonic
field that would stabilize unpredictable
Russ: so, what we're actually seeing is not just
the turning of the crystals but we're seeing a
turning of the karmic wheel.....
Russ: back to its original position.
Russ: and is there a chance we could see this in
Korton: with a little bit of patience and care and
Russ: now another story I've heard which I know
you can't confirm but you might have some
information on is that in a place I used to live
at in Southern California....
Russ: in Palos Verdes, there at the mouth of Palos
Verdes, is a cave.
Russ: and in the cave there is a statue.......
Russ: of a lady and its all made out of crystal.
There's a crystal that can revolve.
Russ: what would be the use at all of a crystal
statue of a lady? I can't see the point.
Korton: it is a cosmetic art piece.
Korton: it represents something and the crystal
has a purpose.
Russ: even though it's an art piece, a crystal
statue would resonate....
Russ: in such a close proximity to a revolving
Russ: now wouldn't that augment the energies?
Russ: so besides cosmetic, it would have been
actually possibly made functional.
Korton: yes, of course.
Russ: but there's another purpose to that statue
besides both of those.......
Russ: and, if I'm not mistaken, it would be a
Russ: that would be emitted...
Russ: out of the mouth the statue.
Korton: correct. You are expecting to learn.......
THE TAPE ENDS