Everything Serves Its Purpose & the Deva Discussion-

Channeled (07/14/1995 )

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Archivist notes: In what seems to be a continuing series of channeling sessions based on the headlines of today, this would be considered part three in the series. Once again, Omal describes events taking place in 1995 as though it was the running stream of stories found at the bottom of a CNN broadcast. Civil unrest, economic turmoil, and climate change all came up in the conversation. This was a channeling session where Omal lets the girls loosen up a bit more than he normally would so side two has a slightly passionate tone as opposed to the serious tone he brings to side one. The title for this month's channeling session is named for the subjects of great importance Omal discusses in his time channeling. Those topics take up all of the first side but, of the two topics, the first is one of the keys to ascension and the second is ancient knowledge brought to the present. From the serious and G-Rated side one we move on to the PG-13 rated side two where the girls have been given fewer restrictions for Tia's sake. It's like a party that never seems to get out of hand. Despite the playful behavior off to one side of whichever speaker is talking at the moment emerges a truly educational collection of knowledge. It's a fascinating dichotomy between sides typical of some of the best sessions in the archives. The only correlation Karra and I can think of is a set of university courses with only a single male teacher. Whether online at a university preparing for a new term here on Earth or online from teachers in a literal school of higher learning, education comes in many forms. We hope this channeling session offers some educational benefits along with the humorous input from the participants.

   It's just Tia and Kiri in the room as the tape starts and, though not mentioned on the recording, a feather had been brought to the session and was being used by Kiri on Tia who had lost the battle to remain sensible. She does remind me of my offer to do a past life regression on her which was a tricky concept at best due to her being on Mars in an entirely different dimension. The solution we came up with turned out to be successful where she channeled through Mark after he left his body and I took her through a time-lapse regression method we'll be explaining in a future editorial. So it is that Omal provides a much more serious overtone which is a dramatic shift in speakers shortly into the tape. Those familiar with the past archives of channeling sessions will remember Omal's rule on asking questions after he had already asked for last questions. Repeated violations of that rule had racked an impressive tally of forty pushups I owed him from recent times in my eagerness to learn. It had cost me some calisthenics so this is the famous session where he demonstrated his masterful control of Mark's body to knock out fourteen of those pushups for me including four where he clapped between each one. It is also a masterful demonstration of leadership that remains just one of the reasons this is one of the best internships I could ever imagine. We start off the questions needing answers with the first being a request for a possible future timeline where small events to come would signal bigger events to follow. Instead, he devotes the bulk of his time explaining how only past timelines are possible to chart a path through the future. The areas he covers are an extensive number of possibilities ranging from civil unrest all the way through to Vulcanicity. To have spent only a small portion of his life watching the growth of our race from its earliest start, he has a firm grasp on the history of our planet. This is more of a class on how an interconnected chain of events led to our present state of affairs rather than just a simple dissertation. He adds to the lesson another on parallel universes that explains how realities split all the time and everything that can happen does happen no matter what reality we are experiencing. Class over, we move on to a study of devas. While most of the information we have learned about devas have come from Treebeard, Omal presents an excellent history of one of the most crucial groups of beings on this planet. Followers of this website know that the stories of deities throughout man's history have revolved around the actions of devas.

   Kiri jumps on after side two gets going and answers a question prepared beforehand of how technology, mankind, and the future are going to coexist. The question concerns smart technology and how much of it is really needed for the betterment of our species. Over twenty years later, we can see such technology has not ruled our lives to where all our needs are met. There is still quite a bit that AI can't replicate which we have to do ourselves. What it does do is open a door for comparisons on how much of that technology replaces the menial labor for those stationed on Hades Base. Kiri gives an example of how the interaction works and an analogy to explain more clearly the decision facing those up there and those of us down here. It also opens a door to a topic that Karra would expand upon once Tia makes the transition between speakers. An amazing fact is revealed by Karra who explains how the percentages of those who clean up their own apartments without the help of automation are about 45% female and 20%, male. It is an encouraging fact to know that pride in one's surroundings still gets some help from a personal touch. When people make the remark, "in a perfect world", what Karra describes, such as furniture that sucks in dust and stains could easily fit that description. Given the option on the third dimension, I believe the percentages would be a lot higher than those who would choose the option of letting the machine take over the housework. From a book Karra and the followers of this website are quite familiar with called "2150", we end our discussion by looking at the ability to direct the body's glandular centers to work in conjunction with the chakras to cause physical manifestations in the human body. The interesting fact of this conversation is that she confirms fiction can become a fact with practice and maybe some special equipment. That leaves our next speaker to channel which is Karra's daughter Alana. While a typical conversation with her revolves around the dolphins in Dolphin Lake, her girlfriend had been involved in a horrific accident and we hear about her status. To lighten things up, Alana reveals she is keeping a two-piece swimsuit she fell in love with due to being a model for Kiri's latest line of beachwear. Throughout her time talking she appears to be distracted by the girls in the room which makes for pretty funny listening as they seem to be trying to get her flustered. The trooper she is, she stays serious enough to give us a very thoughtful discussion on the subject of anger, something she was far from while explaining the emotion. Enough is enough so Tia jumps on to finish out the final few minutes of tape providing her opinion on the subject of anger that echos Omal's dissertation, everything serves a purpose. A truly classic channeling session worthy of its place in the archives. Karra gave me this phase while listening to it I believe truly captures the summary of the discussions recorded. Nowhere does it say the past can be rewritten but, also, nowhere does it say the future is set in stone. She couldn't be more right.                                                                 

TIA- Ring Mistress MARK (Channel)
OMAL RUSS (Archivist)


1.)(3:31)- "Professor" Omal is in full teaching mode as we get a world history lesson, a dissertation on the quantum levels of reality, but we discover the history and facts about the devas sharing our environment.

1.)(0:28)- Kiri and I discuss the future of technology which would be the lead-in to a similar discussion with Karra about the automated cleaning functions of the base. To help, she provides an analogy.
2.)(9:15)- Karra shares the percentages of who on the base cleans their own apartments and who lets the machines do it for them. We also learn from her how the machines clean automatically without notice.
3.)(20:27)- Alana tells us about some modeling she's doing for Kiri and gives us an update on her girlfriend who had recently suffered a horrible accident. Lastly, we go over the causes for anger.
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(Tia starts a temporarily short-staffed channeling session)

Tia: okay.

Russ: well ring mistress.........

Tia: yes.

Russ: what’s the schedule of events here?

Tia: well, we have…..at the moment there’s just Kiri and myself, everybody else has been a little bit on the slow poke getting here.

Russ: a bit unusual for everybody.

Tia: hmm, it is. Okay.....okay, we have one person arriving.

Russ: Omal?

Tia: yes.

Russ: of course.

Tia: uh-huh. Okay, fire away.

Russ: all right this evening, now that Omal’s here…..

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: I can go over what my schedule of events is.

Tia: okay.

Russ: one of them, anyway.

(Tia gives us a little circus ditty)

Russ: okay......just working on……..we worked on a past timeline of the human race up to I believe it was the Roman periods.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: what I would like to do tonight if possible is get started in on a future timeline…….

Tia: okay.

Russ: of probable futures.

Tia: uh-huh. Now then, before I forget, regression time.

Russ: uh-huh, you being regressed that is?

Tia: yes, you want to try?

Russ: I’m always willing to try whenever you want to.

Tia: oohhhh promises. Yes, anyway, future timelines. Certainly, we will let Omal handle that of course.

Russ: of course.

Tia: uh-huh?

Russ: but being as you work closely with him on some of this stuff, you might want to stick around and add some input as......

Tia: of course, of course. Yes?

Russ: okay, some of this is going to be leading to the one answer that we're talking about earlier today.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: and also on the other side of that, we’re going to be looking at the no answer side.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: and this way by establishing a timeline, we can watch the timeline as it goes down and can look for key points that will signal in one side or the other which way the timeline’s going to go.

Tia: okay, I think we better put on………

(Giggling ensues which leaves Tia speechless)

Russ: great tape.....(Russ sighs)

(Tia then explodes into uncontrollable giggles due to some outside forces at work)

(Omal begins a more serious discussion that ends the side)

(Russ starts laughing out loud)

Russ: greetings and felicitations Omal.

Omal: greetings Russ.

Russ: how are you functioning?

Omal: I am functioning fine however, you owe me, how many press ups?

Russ: oh, forty.

Omal: correct.

Russ: hold on. If I don’t do it now, we won’t get it done, promise.

Omal: okay.

Russ: can you pause tape for a second, it’s going to take a while?

(the tape is paused as both Russ and Omal knock out forty pushups)

Omal: that in itself is a lesson in higher consciousness, what occurred?

Russ: okay, taking it down from its root basics, I’m out of shape……..but consciousness wise, controlling your mind enough to where you can block out the pain or the tiredness.

Omal: that is irrelevant, you’re missing the point totally. How many was the original number?

Russ: twenty.

Omal: no, tonight.

Russ: forty.

Omal: how many did you do?

Russ: twenty-six.

Omal: how many did I do for you?

Russ: eleven.

Omal: no, I did fourteen.

Russ: oh yeah, right.

Omal: fourteen and twenty-six is forty.

Russ: oh yes.

Omal: why?

Russ: so you could share my burden?

Omal: correct, that is a lesson.

Russ: well thank you, if you had not pointed it out, I would’ve missed it completely.

Omal: you’re welcome. You did the original twenty plus six extra and I did the remaining fourteen for you.

Russ: yeah, you did the hard ones, my only six were the hard ones.

Omal: but it was shared, you would have never made the forty.

Russ: I would’ve, I would’ve done it after we got through with this and gone back to the twenty.

Omal: correct but there is a lesson there. Sharing the burden is what?

Russ: part of the leadership.

Omal: also, the lesson is that on a higher consciousness you must understand and show that you too can feel the pain, feel the burn in the arms in the shoulder and also, it looks pretty good when you do it, even if I do say so myself.

(Russ breaks out laughing)

Russ: well that’s true, for once I wish we had a video camera handy.

Omal: yes, hand and eye coordination. Not only did I do the first ten, I did the next four clapping.

Russ: yep. It kind of reminds me of that night we went out camping. We were sitting there and you stand up, you look up into the stars and spot Taal’s ship going across, point out some constellations.

Omal: I will let you in on a secret.

Russ: huh?

Omal: Taal’s ship passing was prearranged.

Russ: oh, is that what it was? Well, I thought it might be something like that, how else could you have known it was Taal’s ship?

Omal: exactly. He had actually circled and came back but that is irrelevant.

Russ: yeah.

Omal: but to share the pain and the suffering is not only an example of leadership, it is an example of sharing the energy.

Russ: well that’s something you get from experience, from wisdom of getting through many years of leadership and working with people and guiding them……

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: I mean that’s something that you can tell me twenty times, and I’ll probably forget all twenty, well maybe nineteen and remember that last one where it actually kicks in.

Omal: no, you will remember this.

Russ: true, the sight demonstration was better than anything.

Omal: correct, that is why it was done. Okay, let us answer your questions.

Russ: okay. Well, I’ve got a few to go with but like I was telling Tia, I want to start off with a timeline of coming up on future events.

Omal: okay.

Russ: now of course, the future is mutable and always the possibilities are that it won’t stay the way it is. That’s why I want to be able to have some key events to look at.

Omal: giving the key is events does not work for the simple reason……..let us lay it out this way.

Russ: okay.

Omal: you start off with civil unrest.

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: you start off with financial problems.

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: you start off with large-scale civil unrest. Now, if we take the first one, civil unrest on a minor scale, such as rioting in Los Angeles or in Indianapolis, what will happen is for certain that it will spread.

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: that is certain.

Russ: the reason being that people see it as okay.

Omal: correct. But, here comes the problem, it could be remedied by numerous means and therefore the next events do not occur. What is one of the reasons for rioting?

Russ: rioting is sparked first off by disillusionment with what's going on in the environment around you, combined with what you perceive as authority figures taking liberties that you feel are not within their rights.

Omal: correct, so you remedy this which in turn keeps people happy, which makes them more productive, so the stock market crash does not occur.

Russ: right.

Omal: so you can have only one signpost that you can look for…..

Russ: hmm.

Omal: and that is the one that we had mentioned. The rest are uncertain due to the fact that they are projections are ranging from 75% possibility to 85% possibility.

Russ: hmm.

Omal: so therefore there is that 25% to 15% margin of inaccuracy.

Russ: I see.

Omal: so ergo, giving you pointers to look for along the way is all fine in words but if they do not happen, that is because the initial symptoms have been dealt with and cured.

Russ: okay.

Omal: conversely, if they do happen, it decreases the chances of the other ones following happening.

Russ: hmm.

Omal: if they are not addressed, let us take a theoretical timeline with civil unrest which has occurred or is occurring, followed by a financial boon followed by a financial bust.

Russ: and that’s all occurred.

Omal: the boom is occurring. Whether or not it busts is irrelevant at this point.

Russ: I thought that bust we had just little while ago was…..

Omal: oh, that is minor compared to what is coming.

Russ: oh okay.

Omal: that is just a small dip in the spike.

Russ: hmm.

Omal: you have the financial bust.

Russ: okay.

Omal: you have in large civil unrest directed at the central governments breaking down into areas such as Los Angeles rioting against their authority figures, which in turn puts a stress on the food chain, which in turn puts more stress on the people which makes them riot even more. These are key factors that we can speculate on but I myself personally would not put them in a timeline due to the fact that they are possibilities. A timeline is designed to look at the past to analyze the future remembering that certain factors occur in a cycle. Not a necessarily precise cycle but in a cycle that is noticeable. For example, 1892, there is civil unrest in the Balkan states. Fighting occurs, people are killed, it’s quiet once again. 1898, It flares up again, it continues for a couple of years and then fades away. 1912, it flares up again in the Balkan states, culminating in 1914 with the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand, son of the Austrian Hungarian Emperor. Austria invades the Balkan states, Germany comes out in sympathy of Austria. For the Balkan states, in sympathy comes out Russia, France, and the United Kingdom. What do you have?.

Russ: World War One.

Omal: look at what is happening at present.

Russ: troubles in the Balkan States.

Omal: correct. So you see what I’m saying is that these cycles may be spread out over a hundred years or one hundred and fifty, that is irrelevant. In the timescale of things that is very insignificant, the length of time that is. So therefore, it is necessary to look more closely and to see what was happening elsewhere in the world that led up to this problem. In 1892, there was a small financial depression in your country. 1902 I believe, there was another one, larger, but not as bad. Again there was another one in 1929, very large, affected the whole entire world. So what do you see?

Russ: that the problems in the financial area happened between those times where unrest in the Balkan States except for the first one.

Omal: correct, but it is a curve, one precursors the other one.

Russ:  uh-hmm.

Omal: you have financial unrest in one place in the world and a country that invests on a large-scale tends to lead to withdrawing of money from the areas that are having difficulties such as the Balkans. Another example, the Chechen rebellion, that is not the first time that that has happened….

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: it has been suppressed for many years and it was kept quiet over an incident that happened in the late 50s. But you see what happened? There was a financial plummet in the mid-50s, not very big, but it was enough to cause a nasty jolt.

Russ: so the war essentially happened and then the drop in the financial market happened afterwards.

Omal: not necessarily. It happens that way yes, but it can also happen another way. But you see what I’m saying about it being very difficult to draw a timeline into the future.

Russ: right.

Omal: because there are too many variable factors. You can take events that occurred in the past, work out mathematically the distance between each event over a long period of time if you take from the foundation of your country until the present day and work out every financial fluctuation that has been termed a depression, you will come up with a cycle. You will be able to estimate within approximately three years the chances of the stock market failing. Again, if you take a timeline and work out a particular area where there is civil unrest, again you will be able to predict when that civil unrest will happen again with an error of plus or minus three years.

Russ: okay, so we only discussed two basic problems that would precur this collapse, civil unrest….

Omal: uh-uh.

Russ: financial, isn’t there more?

Omal: yes there is. There is a Vulcanicity, which is a very much harder way of predicting what will happen.

Russ: it must be just more of a random factor.

Omal: no, it is not so much random, it is the fact that the periods of time are so long. For example, just down the road what do you have?

Russ: we’ve got Mammoth.

Omal: correct. When was the last time that that erupted?

Russ: 10,000 years ago.

Omal: so 10,000 years is not is not a very long time in geologic scales.

Russ: uh-huh no, a blink of an eye.

Omal: correct. But, if you look at more recent events, take for example…..

Russ: Mount Saint Helens?

Omal: correct. Excuse me, I will have to talk with her about that.

(Russ bursts out in laughter)

(Ed. note: he's referring to Karra feeding me the correct answers)

Omal: but if you take the events of those occurring, then you can work out the occurrence of the activity of those volcanoes. Now, if you combine those three factors together, you can come up with a very rough prediction on what will happen. However, you have to factor in other factors and work out similar timelines and see how the spikes occur in reference to each other.

Russ: what about climatic changes? Wouldn’t that occur less than the vulcanism does?

Omal: that is also another factor. However, the reverse is true if you’re referring to somewhere like the Mammoth Mountain.

Russ: hmmm.

Omal: you also have to factor in seismic activity.

Russ: well the two are connected only because Mount Saint Helens going off creates so many clouds in the air that it cools down the planet temporarily…

Omal: correct.

Russ: for delaying the global warming affect.

Omal: I wouldn’t worry too much about global warming, have you seen any evidence of that?

Russ: currently yes, as a matter of fact. I mean heat waves in Chicago, New York, killing people, 400 at last count. It's something I haven’t seen happen in my poor 35 years of living on this planet.

Omal: that is something you have to factor into your calculations.

Russ: that’s what I’m talking about, climatic conditions changing and causing drought problems affecting agricultural growth cycles.

Omal: uh-huh. Here is little bit of information for you, overall, your planet’s temperature in the last 10,000 years has dropped three degrees.

Russ: hmmm.

Omal: that is a very large drop.

Russ: well, what could account for this warming period we’re having? Is that just a fluke then?

Omal: it could be a normal fluctuation. You have to remember there are such things as fluctuations. To get an accurate record, you would have to access somewhere where there is a record of what occurs on the amount of rainfall for a given period of time. You have to access records that would tell you how much growth occurred.

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: where can you do that?

Russ: Hades Base.

Omal: there is somewhere much easier that you can do that. Instead of spending hours sitting down at the computer, you can do it much more easily.

Russ: where? Ground sample?

Omal: would you get me a piece of wood, please?

Russ: sure, got one right here.

Omal: there, look at the end, what you see?

Russ: rings?

Omal: there is your answer.

Russ: ahh, I see.

Omal: the more thick the rings are the more growth, ergo more liquid. The thinner the rings, the less growth. Ergo, either a very long winter or a very long summer where there was not very much in the way of precipitation. So therefore, what can you conclude from all these factors being put together?

Russ: you can calculate the cycles of drought and rainfall to a pretty accurate degree with for any area you happen to be residing.

Omal: with all the information.

Russ: oh, put it all together?

Omal: put it all together.

Russ: then you can establish a very accurate prediction with…..well, you’ve got a plus or minus factor of errors, but when you can expect the next drought, how that’s going to affect the agricultural scene, where the problems are going to be coming because of that......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and know that your economic and social changes will happen because of that.

Omal: correct. Now, how can you predict for a large-scale area? For example, the continental United States of America? It is no good going out there and counting the rings on that tree out there. That will only tell you what that tree has suffered.

Russ: well, it’s just the same thing though on a larger scale.

Omal: correct, you go instead of selecting one tree in each area, because one area here at the lake may have a large quantity of precipitation and yet just over on the other side of those hills there, there may be a drought or over the hills there. So you have to pick a certain sample of area and you take samples in that area, and you move on to……..let’s say you do in each state, five sample areas.

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: and you move on to the next state, which means what, apart from a lot of footwork which would be good for those leg muscles of yours?

Russ: well, you’d get an accurate description of these areas.

Omal: it is also a lot of paperwork.

Russ: well you could do it all on computer through the Internet……….

Omal: correct.

Russ: because all of this stuff has already been done.

Omal: correct.

Russ: all you have to do is access the information.

Omal: pull up the information, correlate it….

Russ: I mean, you can check any almanac and it goes back hundreds of years for the entire country.

Omal: hundreds of years is but a blink of an eye. You have to go back further to factor that in to find out the cycle.

Russ: they’ve done that too though.

Omal: yes, you have to go back thousands of years to factor in the cycle. Then you start the industrialization period of your country from 16, whatever it was 41?

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: until the present day. Economic growth, agricultural and so on for that particular area. Further counting in religious trends within those areas.

Russ: why religious trends?

Omal: religious trends play a very important part in what is happening. For example, you take an area where the ethic is religion.

Russ: the Bible Belt?

Omal: the Bible Belt, exactly. What is one of the key factors that the Bible Belt is recognized for?

Russ: morals.

Omal: and very hard-working.

Russ: oh yes, of course.

Omal: so you have factor in that and how much they endure and suffer. Factor that in with a libertarian period, such as what is occurring at the moment, and compare that with other events in the past. Again you have to go to individual areas.

Russ: right. Okay, now what I’m getting to in all this is where is it lead up to as far as coming up with a solution that’s phase one. Phase two is deciding whether a solution is even needed due to the fact that if this was not to happen, the lessons to be learned by the population of the world due to an imminent collapse would be delayed.

Omal: not necessarily, it could be that you are on the right path at present, there again you may not be.

Russ: well yeah, there is no way to determine that unless of course you were to be able to take things that are happening on a worldwide scale, or at least even on a continental scale and determine if for example those things are something you could have an effect on and make work to the advantage that you can see.

Omal: it is useful work to do. Whether or not it occurs does not matter because it could be one of the factors that is splitting off so therefore it would be in more than one timeline, more than likely it will be in more than one timeline.

Russ: that’s true.

Omal: it is necessary to have the information, whether it is necessary or not. In one timeline it is not and in another it is.

Russ: let’s take an example……

Omal: when that occurrence occurs, you take that information with you into that timeline. One timeline you need it, one timeline you don’t.

Russ: ahhh.

Omal: the question is to perceive it as necessary work, whether or not it is irrelevant is besides the point.

Russ; the fact that you did it.

Omal: that you have learned.

Russ: right. Okay, I want to take an example, let’s say I was to get the constant energy machine going….

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: the perpetual energy unquote machine to where we always have free, unlimited power. And let’s say I invent that and it goes worldwide. Creates an economic boom, an energy rich society that isn’t dependent on fossil fuels or nuclear energies and people’s work ethic goes up because they don’t have to pay as much for things and they can spend it on other things now instead of expensive stuff like energy. Taxes would go down and the world becomes a wonderfully, beautiful place.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: or, on the reverse side of that, let’s say I invent that, it goes out and let’s say the military takes complete control of it and uses it strictly for their own use and restricts its use anywhere.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: therefore creating a….

Omal: feeling of resentment.

Russ: right, feeling of resentment plus a new kind of nuclear threat let’s say that wasn’t there previous to this because it’s not nuclear so they can destroy large cities or something without having to have all the radioactive waste afterwards.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: so it’s the……

Omal: yes, that is….

Russ: the Cold War all over again.

Omal: those are two examples of possible avenues that could occur. It is necessary……..excuse me for one second please.

Russ: okay.

Omal: that is better.

Russ: okay.

Omal: it is necessary to analyze all possibilities. Your example of a perpetual energy machine is but one key that could occur or could not. It is necessary to remember that all possibilities can occur on timelines.

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: so therefore it is necessary to sit down and analyze with the help of information as much as possible that you can gather to analyze information. By doing this, you can analyze what will occur and predict what possibly will happen.

Russ: but even so, let’s take that back to your last theorem that you gave me in which……..okay, in one you need that information and in one you don’t. But how could you possibly know, even with all the information you could gather, that what you’ve done is going to affect the future positively if that’s what your goal is….

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: even with that information? I mean there are still variable factors that could be entered in that you’re still taking a chance.

Omal: exactly, the more information you add in decreases the amount of error, the ones that we have named are just but a few. You wish me to name more?

Russ: for the sake of record……..no, we’ve had that already on record, we’ve gone through this before.

Omal: we have not gone through heath, we have not gone through productivity, we have not gone through sunspot cycles. We have not gone through the effects of meteors on your planet, we have not gone through the fact of population growth, population decrease, births, deaths, marriages and so on.

Russ: you’re right.

Omal: you have to factor in all of these events.

Russ: oh okay.

Omal: you see, you can think of ten subjects to discuss….

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: but that is just the tip of the iceberg. If you were to ask Tia on what extent she covers on her fields, you would be surprised on how much she does cover.

Russ: hmm.

Omal: it is hard for her, that is why she has a staff and that is why at the moment it is necessary for her to take some......entertainment.

Russ: okay. Now wouldn’t it be something that you could just then get percentages of. Like for example, let's say I invent this machine. Now……..all right better yet, let’s take another. Let’s say it’s Tia working on this problem.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: okay? And she has our world collapse estimated out at two point let’s say 39 years, okay? Then all of a sudden, let’s say I come up with this machine. She has to change her factors around to say well now that will happen only at a 35% possibility now compared to 95% possibility it was prior to that.

Omal: correct and is not a total world collapse.

Russ: it's just an American collapse?

Omal: it is a little bit wider…..

Russ: okay.

Omal: but not much.

Russ: hmmm.

Omal: but it is a domino effect that will affect to a lesser or greater extent other places.

Russ: okay. But now, back to my second phase, which was if this does happen, then we see the changes necessary to push man to his more conscious limits or……yeah, total conscious limits to put him on fifth dimensional earth, to.......

Omal: no.

Russ: it would lead to that point.

Omal: no.

Russ: you’re saying he would regress because of these changes?

Omal: no, I’m saying that he will not go to a fifth dimensional earth.

Russ: sixth dimensional earth.

Omal: that is better.

Russ: sorry about that, yeah, you’re right. Okay, so you have to factor that in too. Do you want to do something that could change all that? And again we come back to the point of well yes, you made the effort.

Omal: correct but you also have to remember that it may be a key. It may not be, it could be, that is something that is necessary to remember that all possibilities that can occur will occur and therefore that would lead you down an avenue that will give you the opportunity.

Russ: ohhh, I get it.

Omal: therefore…….

Russ: right?

Omal: nothing is good, and nothing is bad, everything serves its purpose.

Russ: that’s right, you could draw as many keys as you want until you’re blue in the face as to whether any of them do anything, it doesn’t matter.

Omal: correct.

Russ: because of the fact man will evolve…..

Omal: sooner or later.

Russ: sooner or later right, and so he will gain those lessons if the world does not…..

Omal: if it does, or if it doesn’t, is besides the point.

Russ: right.

Omal: but is this necessary for survival of the species to plan accordingly? To take into account every possible eventuality, analyze the information, project what may occur with a certainty of never more than 95%, which leaves 5% of error, leads to a proverbial spanner to be slung into the works or wrench as you would call it.

Russ: right, I see.

Omal: you have to remember that wildcard factor.

Russ: I’d like to be a wrench.

Omal: okay, let us move on to the next subject, I believe it is 21:50 and a little bit.

Russ: that’s correct. Okay, now, we have the thing now with the have and have-nots…..

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: to where that difference between the two are widening. Now, are we going to be seeing that key that we're talking about then possibly lessening that gap that’s currently there? Is that part of the solution we’re looking for here?

Omal: it is a tricky area to discuss.

Russ: because we're going into gray areas?

Omal: correct. It also factors in information that is being worked on.

Russ: hmm.

Omal: you have to remember, nothing is set in stone. The haves and the have-nots are in those positions because of what has occurred in the past. So therefore the envy of the have-nots to the haves can be a friction. However, it can also be a lubrication for the have-nots to try to achieve by means necessary to become the haves.

Russ: hmm.

Omal: it always occurs that you have the haves and have-nots, it occurs as regular as night and day.

Russ: I see. People make their own choices, so they have put themselves in those positions to learn from the most.

Omal: correct.

Russ: so all of that is perfect, whether it has anything to do with what happens is perfect.

Omal: is what is planned and happening to the prescribed procedure.

Russ: right, because that’s all outside of us, the key is ourselves…….

Omal: correct.

Russ: and our evolution.

Omal: correct.

Russ: okay. One thing I was looking at was, no matter what happens, whether the collapse comes or does not come, we would be seeing events that would bring about global cooperation.

Omal: that is a possibility that needs to be looked into, and speculated on.

Russ: okay. Because when we factor in all those things that you mentioned, sun spots, etc…..

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: many of those things taken as a formula, would bring about a solution or a collapse, it doesn’t matter.

Omal: because it is necessary to learn from one or the other.

Russ: right, okay. But before I go off on too much further, other stuff, I wanted to find out if we could discuss the devas while we still have time.

Omal: let me check your recording device as our ring mistress is being frivolous.

Russ: again?

Omal: you have approximately 10 minutes on this side.

Russ: okay, would that be enough then to do the devas part?

Omal: on this side yes.

Russ: we’ll just go to this side then......

Omal: okay.

Russ: hold off the rest off for later.

Omal: correct. Devas, the entities that are.

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: they are descended from an ancient species that have always been shy. They like company, they like things just so. To them, time is irrelevant. A hundred years for a deva to sit in one place is like you sitting there and thinking for 30 seconds.

Russ: hmm.

Omal: so therefore their long projection is their understanding.

Russ: hmm, do they exist now in other worlds also then?

Omal: they inhabit other timelines because they arrived at certain points where there were splits. When a world split they happen to be on that world. Where the colonies were originally set up, they were there because they came with the first ships. So therefore they inhabit all the timelines where there were Atlantean colonies.

Russ: ahh, do they interact then on a conscious level with humans?

Omal: yes.

Russ: okay. They can appear……..well, they don’t appear, do they?

Omal: correct.

Russ: they have no form.

Omal: they are a consciousness.

Russ: oh, okay. Together they make up a singular consciousness or are they all individual?

Omal: they are all individual but they can make up group consciousness.

Russ: okay, so they can communicate……

Omal: with each other.

Russ: okay, no matter the distance?

Omal: uh-huh. If you remember back to our camping trip, we asked you to do what......when you were ready to leave?

Russ: oh….

Omal: make an offering.

Russ: make an offering, yes.

Omal: and that was not for the devas in nourishment for them, it was for the animals that lived around.

Russ: that the devas are responsible for.

Omal: not responsible for.

Russ: look after.

Omal: enjoy their existence.

Russ: oh I see.

Omal: you see, devas cannot affect things on a physical level, they are more echoes of consciousnesses would be a better way to describe them. It is like looking at a picture for you, you enjoy the beauty. The devas looking at the animals and the trees growing in let’s say a meadow is enjoyment. They have passed beyond the point of needing nourishment for the physical, they have passed beyond love, they have passed beyond the need for physical pleasures. The thing that they enjoy most is the beauty around them.

Russ: hmmm.

Omal: that is of a spiritual level.

Russ: would we say then that they are even higher consciousness then say Sananda?

Omal: yes and no. Because they have time that puts them higher then Sananda, but because they are earthbound, meaning that they are confined to their area and do not look beyond the future they are much lower.

Russ: hmm.

Omal: they can be both multi-
dimensional and dimensional on one plane only.

Russ: so this is not the final evolution of the human species we’re seeing?

Omal: it is a possibility.

Russ: oh it is? I would say, because as humans, we’re always looking towards the future anyway.

Omal: uh-huh, the devas once did.

Russ: okay, how do we affect the devas in their consciousness?

Omal: go and get yourself a chainsaw and you will see what effect you have.

Russ: well how can we tell the effect? Unless you are completely sensitive to what a deva feels, you wouldn’t even hear the pain.

Omal: here is another way. Take Mark’s lighter and burn your pictures.

Russ: which pictures?

Omal: the ones in the room out there.

Russ: oh I see. You won’t hear the pictures go….

Omal: but you will feel the loss.

Russ: right.

Omal: the feeling of loss will remain an echo. Your experience of loss, your hurt, the loss of your favorite pictures will be always with you. The loss of their favorite trees and their favorite lakes and ponds and fields and meadows and hills will always be with them.

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: it is the loss that they feel. Have you ever wandered through an area where it has been clear-cut and the feeling of loss and sadness there?

Russ: no, thank God, I wouldn’t want to.

Omal: but that is what would be experienced. The quietness, the lack of sound, just the wind blowing over the stumps and the remains of once living trees. However, devas will take great pleasure and enjoyment on seeing a dead tree cut down by man because that tree no longer is beautiful, it no longer serves a function. It is an eyesore, a fire hazard which could destroy their land even more. However, fire can also be a purpose that will bring them harm because they know that within fifty to a hundred years new life will be in that area. Where an area is clear-cut and then buildings are put on it, it will never be beautiful again for them because it is not natural what comes after.

Russ: true.

Omal: after maybe five hundred to a thousand years they may find the area beautiful again.

Russ: well they don’t have any sense of time so that five hundred to a thousand years is but a blink to them.

Omal: correct, but also each second can be a thousand years to them.

Russ: hmmm.

Omal: time to them is a slippery concept.

Russ: well have they moved on to sixth dimensional earth, a few of them or will they?

Omal: we do not know at this time.

Russ: oh. Okay, so that’s why it’s helpful to be able to work with the devas?

Omal: yes.

Russ: because you get reciprocal results back from them.

Omal: yes. For example, if you were to go out and to clear-cut all the trees in this neighborhood….

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: there would be the overwhelming feeling of loss for the devas which would pester you, which would hurt you, which would make this area no longer beautiful to you. You would not be happy, you would move to somewhere else and you would still feel unhappy because what have you done? You have destroyed not only a habitat of many different animals, but you have also upset numerous devas.

Russ: true. Now, how can we become more sensitive to their feelings and communicate with them or is there an ability to communicate with them?

Omal: it is very hard to achieve. Even for us it is hard because they look at things in a different way from us. Remember, to them, time is irrelevant.

Russ: would they be able to even comprehend any language whatsoever except for emotions?

Omal: it is unlikely.

Russ: okay, because I'm wondering if maybe they move faster or slower than we do.

Omal: both.

Russ: faster and slower.

Omal: yes. You have to remember that to them, a thousand years is but a blink of an eye.





(Omal signs off with his signature phrase)

Omal: live long and prosper.

Russ: farewell Omal.

Omal: I’ll be back.

(Kiri jumps on without Tia ushering her into the session)

Russ: it’s Ms. Light As A Feather. Yes?

Kiri: uh-huh?

Russ: ahh, I wasn’t sure if we were making transitions or something here.

Kiri: yeah, yo?

Russ: oh yeah.

Kiri: coolness.

Russ: hi Kiri.

Kiri: dude.

Russ: what up babes?

Kiri: yo. Slip me some skin bro.

Russ: you got it baby. Got you some tea there if you want.

Kiri: oh yes.

Russ: it’s not very warm any more but it does go within the boundaries of teadom.

Kiri: yes, barely. That was a nice long chat you two had, almost half an hour of chatting.

Russ: well you know, we don’t get to chat that often when we have people in here.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: so when it’s just me and him….

Kiri: yes.

Russ: we had that luxury.

Kiri: okay, you have questions for me.

Russ: I do.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, now I was reading the article out there in the London Observer…

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: about the future.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: now, give or take whatever happens as far as what Omal and myself were talking about, one thing is for sure…

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: technology will advance.

Kiri: of course, yeah.

Russ: because there will always be money towards improving one’s lot, even before the collapse really does come.

Kiri: oh yeah.

Russ: okay, now part of that technology we’re looking at is the introduction of biology with mechanics.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: such for example smart appliances.

Kiri: yes.

Russ: things that know what you want when you walk in the room, lights that know that they are being too bright without being told.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: or one example was a book that when you pick it up turns on a light.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: now what kind of technology does this envision for people?

Kiri: the purpose of technology is what?

Russ: make life easier.

Kiri: uh-huh, which in turn does what?

Russ: improves the quality of life.

Kiri: uh-huh, which in turn does what?

Russ: I don’t know, removes quite a bit of the drudgery that was present before that.

Kiri: uh-huh, which in turn does what? You have to look way, way, way down the line. Taking away the boring drudgery will make things more boring. If you don’t need to get up to switch the light on….

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: then, what is the point of having the strength in your legs to do that?

Russ: true. Okay, so that was my next question is, is all this technology really needed or necessary?

Kiri: how much of that type of technology do we have on Hades Base? It is unnecessary.

Russ: doors open up by themselves.

Kiri: yes, when you walk up to them.

Russ: right…..

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: but it doesn’t require having to reach down, turn the knob, open the door.

Kiri: have you tried Mark's sliding door into his backyard, into our backyard?

Russ: that’s true, that’s manual.

Kiri: uh-huh. And when you come to an apartment, does the door just open and you walk in?

Russ: no, it has to allow you in.

Kiri: it has to be knocked on…..

Russ: yeah.

Kiri: as you would say.

Russ: see, that’s it, I just got through reading the book "2150", again….

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and there you’re seeing a life where everything is done by servo-mechanisms.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: except for gardening….

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and I guess artwork probably.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: but music, you call upon a melody and the computer comes up with a tape you need, all the cleaning and everything is all done. Now you got basic cleaning mechanisms up there that do all the cleaning for you…..

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: if you want.

Kiri: if we want, yes.

Russ: or leave them turned off.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: but now how often is something like with Tia’s example is common up there on Hades Base?

Kiri: I really haven’t asked around, you'd have to ask Karra. She’s the very housey, domestic one.

Russ: okay. So basically, if this collapse……..one of the points I’m getting to is…..with this collapse coming…

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: it it's avoided is one thing. If it comes, that could be one of the beneficial side effects of this.

Kiri: it’s possible, yes.

Russ: I mean man is going to have to do without a lot of the stuff that he takes for granted now.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and by doing so, that’s going to make him a little bit more survival conscious……

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: a little more knowledgeable of his environment….

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: working with his environment closer…..

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and taking away a lot of the destructiveness needed to create the technology we have.

Kiri: all right, let’s give you a analogy, right?

Russ: okay.

Kiri: you have two men in an elevator, right?

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: the elevator stops between floors, totally broken.

Russ: right.

Kiri: you have two possibilities. One, one man waits for it to be fixed and the other man gets out and climbs up the elevator shaft, prying open a door and goes and gets help.

Russ: what about the phone inside?

Kiri: that’s it, it doesn’t have one.

Russ: oh.

Kiri: let's say it is just your regular push button, no telephone, no alarm elevator.

Russ: oh okay.

Kiri: right?

Russ: right.

Kiri: one man stays behind and waits and the other one gets up and does something about it. That is an analogy for you dwell upon.

Russ: so if I dwell upon that for a couple seconds here……..

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: I could see that if we apply that to the future man…..

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: we would see where some men, or people, will wait for the end and some will do something about it.

Kiri: uh-huh, exactly. Some will just sit there and accept what has happened as, “oh well, there’s nothing I can do about it” and some will go out and actually do something about it to improve their lot. The ones that go out and do something to improve their lot and remember the man stuck in the elevator and send someone to get him out are the ones that learn, the ones that do better. Anyway, I’ve got to go, I want to make love.

Russ: okay. Well you go have fun, make lots of love, thank you very much for all your assistance.

Kiri: you’re welcome.

(Tia is now back as the speakers change seats)

Tia: okay, I’ll put on the next person.

Russ: okay love.

Tia: just looking at her makes me horny, sometimes. Looking at Mark makes me horny, very often.

Russ: uh-huh.

Tia: good, bye.

Russ: bye.

(Karra gives us a feel of living on the base)

Karra: hello.

Russ: now looking at you, makes me horny.

Karra: in Mark’s body?

Russ: well……

Karra: I should see a psychiatrist if I was you.

Russ: mustaches just doesn't work.

Karra: well, how you doing?

Russ: I’m doing good my love, how’s yourself?

Karra: oh, I’m fine, in fact seeing those two over there, passionately kissing each other is a little bit of a turn on actually.

Russ: I'll bet. Well, Miss Domestic......

Karra: to answer your question, I think it’s about 45% of the female population and about 20% of the male population on Hades Base actually do clean their own apartments.

Russ: oh.

Karra: it is not a unique phenomenon as Kiri and Mark like people to think.

Russ: well that’s a pretty good proportion actually.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: so you got all this technology that you don’t actually have to use….

Karra: no.....

Russ: and maybe oftentimes don't want to use.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: what about you darling, are you in that in that 45% I believe?

Karra: I wish.

Russ: oh, you’re not?

Karra: no, I do not have the time.

Russ: oh, understandable.

Karra: so I do not take as much pride in my little apartment as Tia takes in hers.

Russ: your's looks great babe.

Karra: well, I wish that I did had more time so I could clean it instead having the machines clean it.

Russ: hmm, true.

Karra: it feels better when you clean it yourself.

Russ: I've never see the machines work yet.

Karra: you won’t.

Russ: when do you have the things working, at night?

Karra: it works all the time.

Russ: well why won’t I see it then?

Karra: because it is built in.

Russ: little machines actually come out and vacuum the floors?

Karra: no, no. What happens is the dirt that falls to the floor is vacuumed out as you would put it, it is sucked out.

Russ: oh that’s easy.

Karra: you do not feel the suction. The dust is sucked out, stains are dissolved, are sucked into the material and sent off for recycling.

Russ: I'll be danged, that’s how it works then?

Karra: uh-huh, it is part of the recycling things. After all, all molecules are in everything. For example, you may spill your coffee on the table and leave a nasty ring where the coffee was…..

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: but half hour or an hour later you look there and there is no stain there. You order a cheese sandwich and you eat the stake.

Russ: isn’t that handy, I think. Maybe it will take a little bit to get used to that lovely sushi I had over at Paul’s place less now.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: so that was real fish though, so I’m not worried about that.

Karra: what you implying?

Russ: well maybe the rice was recycled or something?

Karra: it is possible.

Russ: oh. Oh well, tastes good and that’s all that counts.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: okay. All right, as you know, we just got through with "2150". I say we because it was a joint effort.

Karra: yes it was and I’ve read that so many times, I’m so bored.

Russ: well, I’ll admit that my literary tastes do run to the monotonous sometimes.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: now, taking that I was discussing with this with you mentally I believe...

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: the concept of both having your twin soul on another dimension…..

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: works at speeding this up.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: but I still find it so coincidental that I see this happening with us.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: that it’s the privilege of being able to work with you and love you and have children with you and everything……

Karra: thank you.

Russ: that most folks never, ever, ever, ever, ever get to do.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: and I love the rarity of it.

Karra: well, it is not as rare as you would think.

Russ: probably not up there.

Karra: and remember, love is reciprocal……….(her expression changes)

Russ: it’s a visual feast…….

Karra: yes it is. Basically, what it is, is they’re standing side on to me, Kiri has her leg up covering Tia’s midsection……..they’re propped against the wall and Tia is levitating herself……..or she was, she’s not now……..and Kiri is caressing her.

Russ: sure they’re not just doing this for your benefit?

Karra: maybe, but I……

Russ: I think they’re a bunch of exhibitionists sometimes.

Karra: umm, I think they love each other very much.

Russ: well yeah, true.

Karra: and it does not matter to Kiri if anybody’s around. Tia is getting a little bit more like Kiri in that respect that she……..to her, showing love is something private. For Kiri, it is something for all the world to see that she’s in love.

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: it is that she blooms and she shows the flower to everybody.

Russ: well if I lived up there we’d make pretty much of a spectacle all the time too.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: I can certainly understand.

Karra: and it is beautiful. What is wrong with doing something that is enjoyable?

Russ: I can’t see anything wrong with it. I think it’s great.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: funny sometimes.

Karra: uh-huh, yes it is funny sometimes.

Russ: our orgies in the pyramid……

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: degenerated into channeling sessions.

Karra: nice play on words there. Actually, I myself enjoyed those tremendously as well.

Russ: yes I know, well you participated as much as anybody at those points.

Karra: uh-huh. Well, Lyka is such a lovely young lady, she brings out.....my youth.

Russ: well that’s good.

Karra: uh-huh, she makes me feel so young sometimes.

Russ: God I wish I lived up there with you all the time, but I wouldn't be able to get all my work done down here I want to.

Karra: I wouldn't mind living down there with you but it is necessary sometimes to live apart. Anyway, we do have another person that is here as well.

Russ: oh, okay then real quickly, I wanted to check on, as the book was mentioning, the seven glandular centers.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: are those……I only know a few glands. Pituitary, the….

Karra: they are in a way linked to the chakras.

Russ: they are?

Karra: uh-huh, yes, to answer your question.

Russ: okay and can you work with them as the book describes?

Karra: yes, but it takes a lot of practice and it is sometimes very difficult, especially for males to work with all of them because you have to change frequencies and you need special equipment to do so. It is not necessary to have air-conditioning equipment but sometimes it is much better to have internal equipment.

Russ: hmm, so in another words, each of the chakras……and I have to remember this……works on an independent frequency from the others.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: and knowing what each frequency is helps a lot.

Karra: oh yes.

Russ: that wasn’t mentioned in the book, that was just in being able to see them.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: okay which brings me to another question, which is seeing auras.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: I was practicing a little bit today.

Karra: it is something that is useful to have.

Russ: well, as a healer, I thought it would be practically….

Karra: sometimes, being able to tune into somebody’s emotions is much better.

Russ: well wouldn’t it be the same? If the emotions would be reflected on the aura….

Karra: correct.

Russ: but if you can’t see the aura, tuning in to the emotions would be the next best thing.

Karra: that’s right.

Russ: okay, so now, as far as tuning in to the aura goes, now I’m following the book's recommendations and what we’ve gone through before….

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: I’m looking at the body but on the side of the body….

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: to see the aura. Now, how do you develop that to a better degree to where you start seeing the colors? Is it just more practice?

Karra: more practice than anything else, yes.

Russ: oh I see. Okay......

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: I'll just keep working on it then.

Karra: okay.

Russ: well thank you, my love.

Karra: you’re welcome.

Russ: anything for me? While I got you here. Of course, the girls. Well can you put the next person on without having to disrupt Tia over there?

Karra: they’ve untwined themselves.

Russ: oh, they have?

Karra: yes, Kiri’s left.

Russ: oh, okay, so it's time. All right, thank you my love, I’ll see you later on when I get up there.

Karra: bye.

(Tia returns and we hear a bit about her life)

Russ: hi Tia.

Tia: uh-huh.

Tia: oh well, I've got to put on the last person.

Russ: I know, we’re on a time limit.

Tia: uh-huh yes, we are. How much time do we have?

Russ: I don't know.

Tia: oh, we got tons of time.

Russ: do we?

Tia: yeah, we have like 15 minutes.

Russ: I better stretch this out then.

Tia: oh I can stretch out time. I can sit here and I can.....that's better.

Russ: you got a busy night ahead of you I take it?

Tia: oh yes, Lyka was looking after the Cubs.

Russ: oh, right now?

Tia: uh-huh. Actually, they should be almost in bed by now. What’s it, 10:30 your time?

Russ: 11:15.

Tia: 11:15? They should be in bed.

Russ: it's 9:15 there now, I thought they went to bed at nine there.

Tia: no, they go to bed at eight.

Russ: eight?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: that’s a lot.

Tia: well, they get up at six but they do as a rule wake up in the middle of the night. Most the time they're very quiet about it.

Russ: oh, that’s good.

Tia: uh-huh. It’s my turn tomorrow to get them up and get them ready for the crčche and I got plans for tomorrow.

(Alana is the night's guest speaker)

Alana: hello.

Russ: Alana?

Alana: yes.

Russ: how you doing sweetheart?

Alana: not too bad.

Russ: well that’s good.

Alana: uh-huh.

Russ: I hear you're being used to model clothes now.

Alana: uh-huh.

Russ: or be fitted for clothes.

Alana: fitted for clothes, yes. I’m the generic size. Breast size….

Russ: are you?

Alana: uh-huh, hip size.

Russ: oh yeah, for Sirian, right.

Alana: uh-huh, leg size, width across my vagina area, and so on.

Russ: oh.

Alana: uh-huh.

Russ: oh, did they get any good designs off of you today?

Alana: yes they did actually.

Russ: ahhh.

Alana: uh-huh.

Russ: and were you part of the approval process?

Alana: Kiri is planning to take a whole load of holos of me modeling.

Russ: oh.

Alana: uh-huh.

Russ: that sounds like fun.

Alana: yes, I'm going to look very sexy. In fact, I’m keeping one. It’s a two-piece…..well the bottom's a two-piece and the top is a one-piece.

Russ: ohhh.

Alana: it comes down real low, just covers my nipples and it comes like this and as it kind of crosses in the middle and folds over….

Russ: oh.

Alana: it comes around my back.

Russ: well that'd be pretty popular down here.

Alana: uh-huh.

Russ: except for the tan line it would leave.

Alana: it doesn’t leave much of a tan line.

Russ: well what about where it comes up from below?

Alana: well, it comes up like this, right?

Russ: uh-huh, that’s a pretty weird tan line though.

Alana: yeah but it’s quite thin. I’m having difficulty with the hand-eye coordination.

Russ: you’re doing well.

Alana: okay. And then the one......the panty part of it or the bottoms right?

Russ: uh-huh.

Alana: as I said, it’s a two-piece, it comes across like this.

Russ: ohhh.

Alana: uh-huh.

Russ: wow.

Alana: yes….

Russ: sounds complicated.

Alana: it’s not really.

Russ: well good, keep that around.

Alana: uh-huh, I like it lot, actually.

Russ: oh good.

Alana: uh-huh.

Russ: sounds good-looking.

Alana: yes.

Russ: oh good, so this working out, the roommate situation?

Alana: oh yeah.

Russ: oh.

Alana: in fact I think my girlfriend would like her a lot.

Russ: oh that’s good.

Alana: uh-huh. In fact, my girlfriend is……..I checked on her this morning…..

Russ: how she doing?

Alana: oh she remembers things from one minute to the next, you can hold a conversation with her now.

Russ: oh, that’s an improvement.

Alana: uh-huh. Whereas before, you couldn't hold a conversation, she’d look at you and go, "Alana". And you’d ask her how she was doing and she would go, " Alana, so good to see you".

Russ: well that’s just part of the pain dampening process right?

Alana: uh-huh. And then you can actually sit down and talk to her, and you can walk away and come back an hour later and she will look at the clock and go, "have I seen you yet today?"

Russ: that sounds kind of like what they did in the Robert Heinlein series where…

Alana: apart from this is much more acute, though.

Russ: oh really?

Alana: uh-huh, is that she can’t remember if she had breakfast.

Russ: oh.

Alana: uh-huh.

Russ: she can’t remember the pain at all?

Alana: oh she can’t remember anything.

Russ: hmm.

Alana: she can’t remember from one minute to the next.

Russ: oh yeah?

Alana: uh-huh.

Russ: what’s her ETA?

Alana: oh I should say about a week and a half.

Russ: that’s getting close.

Alana: uh-huh, yeah.

Russ: oh.

Alana: and the doctors were saying that she’s ready to make children.

Russ: she’s ready to make children?

Alana: uh-huh, apparently she doesn’t remember that she was totally into women.

Russ: oh, so now she thinks she’s into men?

Alana: well, she thinks she’s into both actually.

Russ: oh, that’s handy.

Alana: it is handy actually.

Russ: hmm.

Alana: uh-huh.

Russ: so she repressed her male desires?

Alana: I think she might have made love to a guy once or maybe twice but…..

Russ: didn’t like it?

Alana: didn’t like it probably.

Russ: well, it can happen.

Alana: uh-huh. It might’ve been that she was very young when she lost her virginity, I never asked her, it’s something we don’t discuss.

Russ: that’s true, you don’t need to really?

Alana: no, it’s just that we're very comfortable with each other. I mean she remembers me before the accident, but it’s kind of very, you know?

Russ: right.

Alana: because we did kiss and unfortunately, I’m not allowed to make love to her for the fact that her stitches are still in, but they will be taken out tomorrow.

Russ: now I take it, because you’re on Hades Base in such a higher dimension…..

Alana: uh-huh.

Russ: that there is not going to be any repercussions of her going, "hey, here I am off and getting healed, and you’re off with some bimbo".

Alana: no, no.

Russ: shall understand it.

Alana: oh, she’ll understand it totally because……well she knows about my sex drive.

Russ: oh well, of course.

Alana: and she knows that I do like men.

Russ: oh that’s good.

Alana: uh-huh. Or I hope she remembers. And………well, we have had some……..put it this way, some very interesting evenings together.

Russ: one thing I’ve noticed is that……..I was reading today in a book that Karra and I were going over…..

Alana: uh-huh.

Russ: that anger is essentially your feeling of not taking responsibility for your actions and blaming somebody else.

Alana: no, I don’t think so.

Russ: well that’s why I have questions about it, I thought I'd ask you about it.

Alana: yeah, anger can be…..there many forms. There’s anger at somebody else, anger at yourself for doing something really stupid, such as Kiri’s anger for when she broke her arm rollerblading. Was she angry at Mark?

Russ: no.

Alana: what she angry at you?

Russ: no.

Alana: the only person she was angry at was herself.

Russ: oh. So you’re saying anger has got a good place?

Alana: yeah, you can learn from anger.

Russ: hmm.

Alana: anger can be a two-edged sword. For example, anger can be very destructive. And you can say, "I’m angry at, I’ll never do that again". And who are you angry with?

Russ: yourself.

Alana: exactly.

Russ: hmm, cool. Well, according to the book that anger……

Alana: uh-huh.

Russ: showed a less than higher consciousness perspective because there’s always ways to deal with things without having to resort to anger.

Alana: that’s if it’s directed at somebody else.

Russ: but you’re saying that it’s good to get mad at yourself, that you should get mad at yourself?

Alana: yes, for the simple reason that it sticks in your mind.

Russ: right, what’s the alternative?

Alana: well if you go, "oh well, I made a mistake, so what?" What do you learn from it? Does it stick in your mind? No, I don’t think so. Does it make other people realize that you are angry that you made a mistake and also being angry at somebody else makes them realize that they made a mistake? You see what I’m saying?

Russ: oh I see what you’re saying. So, what about if you're just angry at yourself then and take away the anger you have for other people out of your life? Is that a road to higher consciousness that way you think?

Alana: it can be. You see, there are many different roads to walk on.

Russ: right. Well, just because sometimes I get mad other people, I see it as a wrongness.

Alana: if you don’t tell them why you’re mad at them it’s a wrongness.

Russ: well, but what if you tell them why it is and they get mad back at you? I don't mean to hit you with all this stuff when you’re trying to have a good time.

Alana: let me see. If they get angry at you, you can both learn from it because afterwards sometimes you and Mark, when you got angry at each other, you've learned, laughed and having a good time laughing at it later on.

Russ: yeah, true.

Alana: uh-huh.

Russ: hmm, but had we not gotten angry at each other, maybe it would’ve been a better experience?

Alana: but you never would’ve found out what makes you or Mark angry..........bye Russ.

Russ: bye Alana.

(Tia takes us to the tape's end)

Tia: hello, hey. Yeah?

Russ: having fun?

Tia: uh-huh. Don’t worry, the tape's going to be over in a few minutes.

Russ: okay. So, what’s your opinion on all this anger thing?

Tia: anger? It serves its purpose I think.

Russ: hmm?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: so, taking it from your life is not always the best thing in the world.

Tia: not always, no.

Russ: controlling it, how about controlling it? Could be a useful tool.

Tia: yeah.

Tia: we have got a lot of tape……no we don’t, we’ve have very little left.

Russ: oh.

Russ: how’s Teene doing? I haven’t heard from her lately.

Tia: Teene’s doing fine.

Russ: hmm, that’s good.

Tia: yeah. In fact I saw her last night before Mark came up.

Russ: hmm.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: I still have to keep reminding myself that she’s actually a very evolved soul.

Tia: yes, instead of the 18-year-old.

Russ: yeah.

Tia: uh-huh. Her girlfriend is……you want to talk about exhibitionists? Her girlfriend is an exhibitionist.

Russ: oh really?

Tia: uh-huh. Well they’re both actually exhibitionists. They……


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