Rejuvenation, Conscious Coercion, and Manifestation-

Channeled (12/25/1992)

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Archivist Notes: April is upon us and so is this month's channeling session with the members of Ashtar Command of which there are only three. Recorded on Christmas Day in 1992, we get plenty of subjects covered with just Tia, Kiri, and Omal during their hour or so of teaching. It seemed that there had been some Christmas Eve celebrating the night before as we get a slightly hung over Tia sounding a bit subdued. Nonetheless, she gets things off to a start by offering some tips for the daily short astral projection trips I had been taking up to the base during some free time at work. It was some important steps in my efforts at  going solid. We move on from there to healing with genetics which led to a back-and-forth on physical rejuvenation without the artificial means used on the base. What we learn is that doing so would require replacing the old genes with new ones. She makes the process sound simple and it would be later in the conversation where she suggests using the mind to replace the genes instead of the actual physical gene replacement. The discussion that followed on bone structure gets sidetracked during the revelation that they've created holograms on the base of some cartoon characters down here like Roger Rabbit. This was recorded thirty years ago and it's only now where we're just catching up with that technology. She gives a good plan on rejuvenating the mind as we get to the end of her time talking. What we learn is that involves having a memory of the body decades ago to use as a template. I ended up working on the whole body since then and confirm it can make a big difference. Kiri is our next speaker who soon gets into a discussion on shielding and the use of offensive and aggressive shielding in dealing with mental attacks from others. For the most part, we've dealt with defensive shielding where your shields reflect attacking energy up to even where meta-concerts are sending the energy. This though is when you would take action offensively. The need for it would be extremely rare but it is knowledge and knowledge is always good. We finish up the side by letting Kiri know that Mark and I had been discussing how we might have been working for the base without knowing it such as Mark finding a third dimensional planet populated by people will descended from pigs. It's an amazing galaxy out there and so we let them know we had no problems with it. On to side two.

Omal is the only speaker for this side which is a plus because he gives us a lot in his time speaking. The first thing he gets into is a schedule change for the night which means that coercion was now being added to the manifestation training that had been planned. The holidays were always busy work wise at the ski resort where Mark and I both worked and the theater where I was a manager. On top of that was the studies assigned to us by the speakers on the base so we were trying to juggle our work, life, and study time. Coercion was our first topic and part of the training was to use it in a real-world setting. As a theater manager, I had the perfect environment to improve on that ability. The plan being presented to Omal for approval and input was to use coercion to bring up my cost per person that was being asked by the theater company. The timing couldn't be better. From there we started working out a strategy of how I could establish and reestablish eye contact with customers before and after they bought tickets. He suggests short words repeated over and over again would have the most success when using coercion. This is called conscious coercion because the person is being deliberately coerced into doing something they wouldn't normally do. What made this a good test was that my cost per person would indicate whether my efforts were bearing fruit. Before moving onto manifestation, we covered whether or not the person being coerced became somehow emotionally attached to the person doing the coercing. He says there is little chance of that. With manifestation, I had befriended a fire deva to help with my practice. We had been trying to alter flames and the help we had received gave us some visible successes. He makes the point that by working with flames, we have something to build on which is easier than trying to create something out of nothing. He breaks down manifestation to the simple arranging of molecules to your specifications. We go through a quick manifestation practice where I try moving the candle flame in front of me. From there we go into becoming familiar with the molecule groupings being manipulated. In demonstrating what he is talking about, he goes through the basic actions of the molecules within some known substances. We wrap up the session with his reminder to me to avoid burnout with all the work and training I had been doing. It's a channeling session staying relevant thirty years later with lessons we can use today.
In love, light, and wisdom as one,
Russ and Karra

TIA- Co-Ring Mistress


1.)(0:00)- Tia covers the subjects of astral projection and physical rejuvenation and has some valuable tips on both. I was close to going solid so she helped with that and suggested a memory as a template.
2.)(23:20)- Kiri takes us in a new direction in mental shielding by going over both offensive and aggressive shielding for when defensive shielding isn't helping. It's shielding that should never be needed.


1.)(0:00)- Omal discusses the use of coercion in a real world test environment before moving on to manifestation practice. We learn that manifestation is essentially the arranging of groups of molecules.

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(A slightly hungover Tia gets the session going)

Russ: how are you doing Tia?

Tia: hmm, a little hung over.

(Russ chuckles)

Russ: had a little party last night without us?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: well good for you. Yeah, you were definitely more concerned with Mark's well-being when going to parties I suppose.

Tia: I'm sure he appreciates it.

Russ: he seems much better for it today. So........

Tia: so, what are we going to talk about? You want to know about farsighting?

Russ: yeah.

Tia: okay, go ahead, fire away.

Russ: okay. Well basically, yeah, into farsighting, I'm stopping up there now on a regular basis to see Karra during the afternoons during work.....

Tia: uh-huh. Yes, we are aware.

Russ: and practicing on that.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: I want to practice tonight getting to you without Mark's assist.

Tia: well sure.

Russ: anything in the way I should look out for?

Tia: tell you what.

Russ: huh?

Tia: look for Treebeard's........(solarium)?

Russ: right, that's easy enough.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: okay.

Tia: it's in the tree.

Russ: yeah, so stop in on the side of that.

Tia: that's right, not too close though.

Russ: yeah, I would come walking out of the tree, be a little bit embarrassing. So did you open Mark's present yet or are you waiting for tonight?

Tia: waiting for him to get here.

Russ: oh good. Okay, well we'll have some exciting times coming up here.

Tia: uh-huh. So you're looking to find out about farsighting?

Russ: yeah. First off, is there a way that I can work on going solid up there by doing.....

Tia: so........

Russ: oh, I was going to say doing a negative feedback loop?

Tia: to increase your stamina, you need to practice and to go solid it's a matter of trial and error. What Mark has been saying for not too long, is that you're pretty close to going solid. We concur in this.

Russ: okay. These little ten minute jaunts of mine and stuff are fun but I don't know how close they are to getting me going solid. It just seems like each time it gets a little better, a little easier.

Tia: take it a little longer each time. You've got to learn how to run before you can walk or you've got to learn how to wedge before you can ski.

Russ: very true. Is there any tips that you can give me about my little ten minute jaunts that might be an assist?

Tia: just relax. Try looking around more.

Russ: okay.

Tia: more information, more visual input.

Russ: oh, so like details?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: lots of them.

Tia: lots of little details.

Russ: okay, because right now I'm mostly just concentrating on people in the room. Mainly Karra and Klarra.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, good idea. Shoot for details.

Tia: do this in order to expand your stamina. Looking for small clues like maybe a spot on the floor somewhere. Things like that.

Russ: good tip.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, so that's it for farsighting.

Tia: is that all?

Russ: well that's it for now because just like you say, it's trial and error. I don't want to get in too much information that I can't process without experience.

Tia: that's the most important thing that they keep on telling us is to learn by your own experiences. It's best to get little bits, process that information, learn it, then use it.

Russ: uh-huh, I'll try that tonight. Well now you've been working with Kornas on genetics, correct?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: I've got kind of a genetic question.

Tia: okay.

Russ: okay, on Karra's healing, I have it down here in my notes to ask is it tied in to genetics?

Tia: yes it is.

Russ: okay.

Tia: Carla?

Russ: uh-huh.

Tia: oh.

Russ: Karra.

Tia: Karra or Carla?

Russ: Karra.

Tia: oh, Karra. I thought you said Carla.

Russ: no, Karra Tia.

Tia: oh.

Russ: now would that healing then.....

Tia: be passed on to Klarra.

Russ: yeah.

Tia: correct.

Russ: okay, and also, could you do healing on a genetic level?

Tia: yes and no. The more pronounced defects are harder to cure. Mild ones are easier to cure. Somebody that may have seven toes instead of the regular number.

Russ: right.

Tia: that can be cured. But something more serious where an individual may have extremely large bumps on their face and be mentally unbalanced, that's much harder to cure.

Russ: oh.

Tia: because you basically have to deconstruct the individual and then reconstruct them. Apart from cloning there's no other way to do it.

Russ: okay. Well for example, we start off our life with perfect or nearly perfect genes and molecules and.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: cells and stuff I should say.

Tia: you inherit the basic pattern from your parents.

Russ: right.

Tia: and if a parent has blue eyes and the other parent has brown eyes, then it is a 50-50 chance that that baby may acquire the brown eyes or blue eyes.

Russ: the male genes would be.....

Tia: more dominant.

Russ: now then, what I'm getting to though is going into old age, those cells start to break down and start to become more fragile let's say.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: but with healing, is there a way to reverse that process?

Tia: yes there is. There is basically a form of rejuvenation.

Russ: right. But now, how long would that last? It seems like you'd have to maintain constant energy to keep that process in reversal.

Tia: no. To reverse it to a point, say for example you rejuvenate yourself in say 50 years, go back 50 years, right?

Russ: right.

Tia: you would appear to be the age that you were years ago.

Russ: okay. Now, in that case, we're dealing with working on a cellular level.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: what kind of insight would you need to do that?

Tia: you would need to be able to know how to break down the cells and replace them with new, fresh cells.

Russ: right.

Tia: and young cells as well instead of cells that fit somebody that is older. You need to be able to create and infuse them with cells that are much younger.

Russ: so you need samples of both under a microscope.

Tia: uh-huh. So that you can compare the new that was with the old person that is and be able to come back to that point.

Russ: right. So you couldn't actually reverse the process in the older cells. You'd have to replace them.

Tia: me personally?

Russ: I mean me personally.

Tia: that's correct. You would have to replace the cells with new, fresh, young cells.

Russ: now the body creates these cells, correct?

Tia: yes.

Russ: so if you could stimulate the body to create new cells.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: then you could reverse the process.

Tia: you'd have to also stimulate the memory of the cells of what they were fifty years previously as well.

Russ: because the organ producing the cells wouldn't know the difference.

Tia: is there somebody outside?

Russ: hmm.......

Tia: I hear scratching at the door.

Russ: oh, that would be Joey, Mark's cat.

Tia: feline domesticus craziness.

Russ: that's the one. Okay.....

Tia: trying to break in and enter, is it?

Russ: well more like attention getting.

Tia: ahhh.

Russ: okay, so, what I need to do is find what makes cells.

Tia: it is caused by a command from the brain to various parts of the anatomy to replace the cells. For example, a command would be given from the brain to the hand to release the command to repair the cells in that area to stimulate the growth of the skin tissue.

Russ: what makes the cells become cells?

Tia: you'd have to ask Kornas honestly.

Russ: okay, but it's a start.

Tia: got into a very deep subject, hmm?

Russ: well healing has kind of gotten my attention lately due to the fact that I've had some problems with my knees and stuff. Working on........

Tia: oh, Karra was meant to work on them.

Russ: well she did an awesome job but it still gets aggravated when I kneel on it.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: so what I've been doing is putting some healing energies into my shields to generate........

Tia: you could try ice packs also and heat packs as well to help increase the healing process. The mind that it is untrained in one particular healing method takes time. It probably accelerates the healing process by a about a third but with proper help as well to boost it. For example, pushing an ice pack for it, heat pad and massaging it and putting various ointments speeds up the process.

Russ: where I guess the point I'm into at this point is to find out what I can do.

Tia: ahh, so you're using your injury as an experiment to use your mind.

Russ: right, I'm pushing myself to what I think might be my limits and then go beyond them. So when I'm not using artificial means or when I get better I'll know it was me that did it, not the means I used.

Tia: what else you can also do is, do you know the bone structure of the affected limb?

Russ: I haven't studied it. I do have a book that details it out pretty good.

Tia: okay. If I had a pair of glasses I'd lower them down to my nose.

Russ: okay, we're going back to bone structures.

Tia: if you visualize bone that, which one is that?

Russ: that's Calvin. Get off there.

Tia: it's all right, it's all right, let him stay on.

Russ: all right.......

Tia: we'll play with him.

Russ: okay.

Tia: we've been watching holograms. Various.....remember when Omal asked about, "who is Bugs Bunny?"

Russ: right, cartoons.

Tia: yes, we have them in holograms up here.

Russ: really?

Tia: we've been amusing ourselves with the computer and generating holograms.

Russ: that sounds like fun.

Tia: uh-huh. We were able to get ahold of various cartoon characters, Roger Rabbit?

Russ: yeah, Roger Rabbit.

(Russ chuckles at that)

Russ: Jessica Rabbit.

Tia: yes, Jessica Rabbit. Oh, Jessica Rabbit.

Russ: right, babelicious.

Tia: I think Mark would appreciate that.

Russ: yes.....

Tia: I'll see if I can get a dress like that.

Russ: okay.

Tia: although I don't think my legs are long enough. We're being obviously sidetracked.

Russ: yes, we're back to bone structures.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, I do have pictures of detailed bone structures.

Tia: what I suggest you do is look at them.

Russ: okay.

Tia: remember them and then visualize the damage to your knee being healed. Actually see the bone, say you take a chip off of it, top of your knee.

Russ: right.

Tia: actually visualizing new bone replacing it. Summoning your energy and that feeling down to your knee.

Russ: hmm. I think at this point it's either a muscle or possibly the disk where.....

Tia: uh-huh, the cartilage.

Russ: yeah, the ball socket thing.

Tia: ball and socket is in the hip.

Russ: oh, what would it be then?

Tia: it's more of an upper joint.

Russ: okay. Anyway, I'll check it out and see what I can pull off here but yeah, that is my current project also is getting in some healing stuff.

Tia: uh-huh. So what you will do is visualize let's say it's the muscle, visualize the muscle red and inflamed and slowly cooled and..........

Russ: right.

Tia: you follow?

Russ: I see what you're talking about.

Tia: you can use this process as well on things like colds.

(Tia pass through Mark's body)

Tia: especially colds.

Russ: especially colds.

Tia: yes.

Russ: okay, thank you. Are you the only one......?

Tia: no, we have a very subdued young lady sitting in the corner.

Russ: Kiri, huh?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: unusual to say the least.

Tia: she is listening with interest as we both have been doing a lot of studying together on genetics.

Russ: hmmm, okay.

Tia: various genetic properties and as she is our resident genetic experiment as well.

Russ: ahh yes. Well going back to the cell part, when you're replacing the old cells with the new cells, I assume the old cells then go out to the skin and get dropped off so the new cells are in need to become new skin.

Tia: correct.

Russ: okay.

Tia: you have to do this process all the way down through because with age your bones become brittle.

Russ: right.

Tia: and the muscles as well will have to have the cell structure strengthened and improved.

Russ: so in other words, you have to go from head to toe?

Tia: correct.

Russ: everything.

Tia: from the skull, to the muscle tissue, to the actual tissue, to the very skin. So it's not replacing just one small part, it's replacing everything.

Russ: wow.

Tia: that's why it's such a major undertaking and so hard to do.

(Russ whistles)

Tia: not only do you have to replace bone structure, you also have to replace blood, all sorts of tissue, all sorts of organisms and intestines and so on.

Russ: God.

Tia: it's a major job.

Russ: very major.

Tia: it's not something that can be done overnight. It takes time and energy. There are artificial ways that do the same thing but you're not ready yet for that kind of information.

Russ: yeah, I'd rather work on it myself here.

Tia: you could get you a major medical prize if you could re-create some of the equipment we have up here and medical practices.

Russ: uh-huh. So that's how you maintain your long lives then?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: do some healing over here on a cat in a few minutes.

Tia: who's beating who?

Russ: right now it's a standoff.

Tia: hey cats, kick back, relax, be cool.

(Tia speaks to the cats in Durondedunn)

Tia: did that work?

Russ: that worked. Now, is there a way instead of going through the whole body......

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: do something on a minor level to just test it out. Say for example....

Tia: you mean cosmetic stuff?

Russ: no, I'm not so worried about cosmetics as that's outward appearance......

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: I'm more concerned with the brain.

Tia: you want to rejuvenate your brain?

Russ: well for example like memory.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: whereby in older age you get more......

Tia: forgetful.

Russ: yeah, you lose memory and you lose brain cells.

Tia: hmm, you don't lose memory capacity, it's just that things get forgotten. It's like a computer, once it is told something it doesn't forget it unless you wipe the disc, correct?

Russ: right.

Tia: and that is what the mind is like. But if you don't label it correctly and don't store it properly it's very hard to find.

Russ: ahhh.

Tia: so it's a matter's a good analogy is that Mark was looking for a book that he read or was reading. And he was looking and he was looking he couldn't find it. And then he remembered that he was reading it about about ten years ago?

Russ: uh-huh.

Tia: it wasn't addressed correctly but the book had never been finished. It was that the memory came that he'd been reading the book. And it was sort of like, "where did I put that book?"

Russ: right.

Tia: you understand the analogy?

Russ: yeah, now I have stuff I think is déjà vu.........

Tia: but an actual fact it's things that have happened in the past.

Russ: right. It just similar circumstances that rehappened again.

Tia: and it reminds you of that that has already happened.

Russ: sure. Okay, so back to brain, so we have to go down to a cellular level with the brain.....

Tia: uh-huh. Every minor or major parts of the body has to be replaced if you're going to do some regenerative.

Russ: well the problem is I don't have a model of what my brain and body were like fifty years ago. How do we get around that little problem.

Tia: you say you are that old? I'm using fifty as a number.

Russ: well theoretically let's go ten years. Twenty-three? Yeah, that's better.

Tia: you want to be twenty-three again? You want to be my age?

Russ: not really, but just for.....

Tia: with my problems?

Russ: hypothetical. Problems? You don't have any problems.

Tia: I've got one that they won't let me do.

(Hunting live animals)

Russ: oh yeah. Okay, so yeah, let's take it ten years.

Tia: okay.

Russ: I don't have a sample of my body or brain from ten years ago. Does my body and brain remember the cell structure from ten years ago?

Tia: yes, it does. You have to activate that memory.

Russ: correct. Now, how do....

Tia: you do that?

Russ: activate the memory, right.

Tia: I haven't read a book that far yet, I don't know.

Russ: okay. I'm on the right track.

Tia: correct. It's a matter of looking for that memory that will trigger the memory of what everything was like ten years ago.

Russ: hmmm. Would having a memory of some point ten years ago help?

Tia: possibly. Maybe a photograph of you doing something.

Russ: yeah. I was thinking more like a major event that I might have taken.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: taken part in perhaps.

Tia: yes, that might help as well but you have to do many things. Okay, we're going to hand over to our resident lunatic.

Russ: oh, excellent. Omal's coming in.

(Russ chuckles)

Just kidding.

Tia: you'll see Omal later.

Russ: okay, well I can deal with Karra.....or Kiri I mean.

Tia: Karra's off getting dressed so that she that can surprise you.

Russ: oh, really?

Tia: I'm going to go off and get into something outrageous.

Russ: even better.

Tia: uh-huh. Okay, thank you Tia.

Tia: see you in a little while.

Russ: going to leave me along with the crazy one, all right.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: sounds good.

Tia: okay.

Russ: bye-bye, see you later.

(It's Kiri's turn to speak and gets us to the end of the side)

Russ: I thought that was you coming in.

Kiri: uh-huh. I've been thinking.

Russ: oh oh.

Kiri: nothing to worry about, nothing major. Not the pregnancy blues type thing.

Russ: oh good. Melancholy baby.

(Kiri begins singing)

Kiri: "and I feel blue". Isn't that from that song?

Russ: yes it is.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: very good. One question before we get into anything else but Mark is going over some tapes of the other night where you were in and you did something coming onto the tape and I said I would explain it to Mark later.

Kiri: you mean something like this?

Russ: yes, that's it, right. So you're wiggling fingers to your nose with your thumb to your nose......

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: thumbing your nose. That's it.

Kiri: yes.

Russ: good.

Kiri: we don't have quite the hand eye coordination.

Russ: so you're thumbing your mustache at him.

Kiri: I don't have a mustache.

(Russ laughs)

Russ: I know.

Kiri: why don't you go and stick your head in a bucket of water?

Russ: I wouldn't have as much fun if I did that. So how are you Kiri?

Kiri: well I'm trying to motivate myself. I've been doing some work and some thinking, lots of things since last night.

Russ: hmm.

Kiri: I was listening to Tia talking and I was nice and relaxed and mellow. Looking forward to curling up in front of an artificial, holographic fire and he really shouldn't work so hard.

Russ: none of us should work this hard but it's a making a living type thing.

Kiri: well, if you want to ski.

Russ: that's right.

Kiri: since you're not involved with higher beings where you can eat free of charge and ski when they let you?

Russ: well, we're working up toward that point. Give us a few lifetimes, we'll be there.

Kiri: yeah. Do you know what Mark's getting me?

Russ: yeah.

Kiri: what is it, it feels soft?

Russ: I can't tell you obviously.

Kiri: why not?

Russ: well that's what surprises are all about.

Kiri: oh.

Russ: it's like I can't find out what he got me until we opened it last night and found out.

Kiri: if I can use yourself, what did he give you?

Russ: you're asking me all the tough questions today.

Kiri: tough questions first.

Russ: it was a book on Nostradamus which was really well written on prophecies of the.......

Kiri: It can't be anything like that, I'm try to reason it out. It's a soft package. Oh well, nevermind.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: I'll figure it out.

Russ: well.......

Kiri: take it down get x-rayed.

Russ: I don't think that will help.

Kiri: but you guys are going to be up here quickly anyway.

Russ: yeah, we're going to be up there soon.

Kiri: any sensible questions?

Russ: sensible..........

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: you want sensible?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: oh God.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: this'll be a tough one.

Kiri: okay.

Russ: okay, how about on shields? That's sensible.

Kiri: okay, let's see what we can do.

Russ: okay, let's see what we can do. On the question of offensive shielding.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: going over my notes of the tapes that I transcribed, I show that
offensive shielding is the capability to send a person's energy back at them if they direct it at you.

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: which in which case you would need a specially designed shield to do so.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: now then, the shield I have in mind for that would be concave.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: like a cable or satellite dish.

Kiri: uh-huh. How about something like.........what's that sport you do during the summer?

Russ: golf?

Kiri: uh-huh. How about an object like that?

Russ: a golf ball?

Kiri: it's got lots of little concaves there.

Russ: yeah?

Kiri: uh-huh. Wouldn't that be much more efficient?

Russ: don't they rotate? I mean your shields rotate offensively, would your shields rotate or would they stay.......
Kiri: well, you'll be able to rotate them. But of course if you're using offensive, you don't need to rotate
them because if you're reflecting energy back at somebody, you need a surface that is stationary, right?

Russ: whole bunch of little concaves.

Kiri: uh-huh. It means that you don't have to rotate them.

Russ: wow, you could get them from any direction at all.

Kiri: could work. See? I'm not just a pretty face.

Russ: I never said you were.

Kiri: you mean I'm not a pretty face?

(Russ laughs at that)

Kiri: come close and I'll scratch your eyes out if I had the hand eye coordination.

Russ: you could scratch my nose maybe. Now then, question on aggressive shielding.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: now then, going back over my notes there.......

Kiri: hmmm?

Russ: I have it that aggressive shielding you would cover somebody up in your outer shield........

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and either sic say like Mark's Dragon on them or my panther.........

Kiri: grrrrrrrrrrr.

Russ: and then sucks energy.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: how would I explain that to my logical sense here?

Kiri: hmmm.

Russ: does the panther suck the energy in?

Kiri: yes. Because the panther is part of you so you use the panther to suck in the energy. A bit like, what's that fictitious character that sucks fluid from their bodies?

Russ: a vampire.

Kiri: uh-huh. Well that's not what I was thinking of, I was thinking of a fictitious character.

Russ: fictitious character...........Dracula?

Kiri: uh-huh. Because vampires don't actually do this.

Russ: vampire bats.

Kiri: correct.

Russ: yeah. Okay, so the panther would suck the energy in?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: ohhhhh, leaving the victim helpless.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: theoretical. So, the question comes up when to use offensive and when to use aggressive?

Kiri: well that's up to you.

Russ: right. It would be the severity of the attack I assume?

Kiri: yes.

Russ: would determine that.

Kiri: uh-huh, or the mood that you're in. Or if it's a friend that's upset with you.

Russ: ahh. Because aggressive would be a a bit of overkill in some situations?

Kiri: oh certainly.

Russ: okay, question I have on coercion.

Kiri: hmmm?

Russ: it seems as though looking back over our experiences over the last ten weeks or so.....

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: that coercion has been actively used from you guys on us on a fun kind of basis?

Kiri: such as?

Russ: well for example Mark's finding the pig people.

(A race of beings on another third dimensional planet)

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: he says he stumbled upon them.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: it seems like an awfully lucky stroke of coincidence that he would just suddenly stumble onto like that.

Kiri: I can't answer that question because at whole time when that was started way back when I was elsewhere. I was working in a completely different department.

Russ: well I just wanted to mention that everything's fine, we don't mind.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: we both discussed it and we definitely approve of it, it's just we wanted to get clear on something that might not exactly be of our own thoughts.

Kiri: yeah. May I make a statement?

Russ: sure.

Kiri: when Tia's around if you refrain from mentioning Mark's medical programs. Mark hasn't discussed them but met with Tia.

Russ: did I?

Kiri: no, you haven't yet but.....

Russ: oh, thank you. I'll make sure I don't.

Kiri: uh-huh. Because she does worry about things. She still a little girl basically.

Russ: you're not.

Kiri: well, I'm only ten years younger than my big sister.

Russ: oh.

Kiri: you know how old she is.

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: she's ancient.

Russ: ancient? I won't mention that. I can get us both into the trouble there.

Kiri: uh-huh. She said it.

Russ: okay. Thinking of my grandmother.

Kiri: go on.

Russ: anyway, looking forward to seeing you at the party tonight.

Kiri: yeah. Well, we're out here, we're gonna blow this joint.

Russ: oh Kiri.

Kiri: we're going to act like a stick of dynamite and blow it.

Russ: I'll see you in a few.

Kiri: okay.

Russ: all right.

Kiri: ciao.

Russ: ciao.




(Omal comes on after some humorous moment)

Russ: good evening Omal.

Omal: we have to amuse ourselves.

Russ: well that's good, glad we can help. So how are you tonight?

Omal: we are functioning adequately within specified parameters. Don't know about the channeler though.

Russ: he has a little bit of a cough.

Omal: yes. Okay, we're going to discuss manifestation.

Russ: yes, tonight is manifestation on the schedule.

Omal: yes, we are also going to add coercion.

Russ: oh good.

Omal: yes, due to the fact that you are cramming at the moment. Not for an exam though but cramming as much knowledge as possible into the limited space and time due to the fact that you are neglecting your studies due to this period of jobification.

Russ: yeah, well it's when we got our worst work areas.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: anyway, agreed. Time for cramming.

Omal: yes, to make up for the two days you have neglected plus the upcoming day that you going to neglect.

Russ: yes, where are we going to neglect it?

Omal: well we feel that you might want to relax and kick back at that time.

Russ: okay.

Omal: as this seems to be your custom to celebrate the start of something or the end of something.

Russ: Friday? New Year's Day?

Omal: uh-huh. Presumably that is what it is. Okay, down to business. Which one do you wish to start with first, coercion or manifestation?

Russ: let's start with coercion.

Omal: okay, I'll try to wing this one.

Russ: would you want to switch over, do manifestation first?

Omal: let's get this one out of the way as Korton is busy elsewhere.

Russ: oh, okay. Right.....

Omal: okay.

Russ: coercion.

Omal: okay, let us proceed with due haste.

Russ: okay. Now then, to start with.......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: looking at trying an experiment at my theater using coercion to assist in the sales of our junk foods.......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: for incoming customers as I sell tickets at the door.

Omal: yes.

Russ: due to the fact that I'm being pressured to push up what's called a CP or cost per person.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and......

Omal: how would you use your coercion?

Russ: with a combination of eye contact, voice, and energy.

Omal: correct. What do you wish to know?

Russ: okay, specifically is there like a set phrase I could possibly use that would key myself into it?

Omal: each phrase is tailored to the individual. For you, something along the lines of, "let's sell".

Russ: right.

Omal: so that you get yourself in a frame of mind that you get the energy channeled into that mode of transactions.

Russ: excellent.

Omal: so, "sell now, let's sell".

Russ: right. Now then, using coercion then with the customers.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: okay? I would establish eye contact as I sell them the tickets which is natural. I do that with everyone.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and then some of the things I would say would be for example on the last show, "the snack bar closes in fifteen minutes after the last show starts".

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: which is typical for what I usually say to warn people about that upcoming event. During that, I thought that would be like an ideal time to use coercion.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: due to the fact that it's a set phrase designed for coercion.

Omal: yes.

Russ: just without using coercion.

Omal: you could say something along the lines of, "we close the junk food line fifteen minutes after the start of the show. Is there anything in particular that interests you that you would like?" Backing it up with an expression maybe a mental energy channel that is saying, "buy, buy, buy, buy, buy".

Russ: right.

Omal: bye-bye.

(Russ chuckles)

Omal: sorry.

Russ: that's all right.

Omal: we could not resist.

Russ: I don't blame you. I couldn't resist either. All right, so when I'm mentally sending this.....

Omal: yes.

Russ: I will be keeping it simple with......

Omal: just the one word repeated over and over again.

Russ: I see, okay. And then for the shows before that I will try to think of something that would hook up with something.....

Omal: yes.

Russ: with a similar....

Omal: something short and to the point like, what is that snack that you sell?

Russ: popcorn?

Omal: yes. "Nice popcorn, nice popcorn" in a perpetual loop type thing.

Russ: ahhh.

Omal: so constantly, "nice popcorn" but maintaining all the time that eye contact.

Russ: sounds almost subliminal.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: without the words being spoken out loud.

Omal: yes, uh-huh.

Russ: okay. So establishing a link, this would be successful with some people more than others I assume?

Omal: yes. Some people that have a much stronger self-control are more difficult to coerce. You have to take more time.

Russ: would latency have anything to do with it or operancy?

Omal: yes and no. Latency, doubtful......operancy, definitely yes. The more operant somebody is, the harder it is to coerce them.

Russ: oh really?

Omal: I believe we have stated that in the past. It is depending on whether or not they are aware that they are operant.

Russ: right.

Omal: yes.

Russ: if they're not aware that there operant.......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: can they be coerced.........?

Omal: yes, they can because they do not use their potential.

Russ: now would that be a way of finding operants out of who comes to the theater type thing?

Omal: yes and no. As we said, it is not only operancy or latency, they're also somebody that is very strong-willed, somebody that is very determined is difficult to coerce also.

Russ: oh, so someone weak willed.

Omal: yes, weak willed, then it is easy to coerce them or somebody that is distracted it is easy to coerce them. You might want to find a beautiful young lady to stand and sell your junk food.

Russ: I'm stuck with my ugly guys.

Omal: I'm sure they would appreciate that comment.

(Russ laughs)

Russ: not ugly at all, it's a term of affection.

Omal: all in amusement and entertainment for yourself.

Russ: correct. I did use coercion the other night on the owner of the theater company.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: that was kind of fun.

Omal: and you succeeded?

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: but of course.

Russ: I wished them to leave quickly.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: a little coercion sent that way and they did.

Omal: that is good.

Russ: he's pretty weak willed anyway.

Omal: oh. Easy to coerce.

Russ: very easy.

Omal: okay, let's proceed with the next question.

Russ: okay. Once the link has been established......

Omal: yes?

Russ: and the word has been repeated over and over......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: let's say that they start looking toward the snack bar.....

Omal: yes.

Russ: and you've lost eye contact....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: is there anything further to do or just let fate take it's.......

Omal: when they turn to you to make their decision, reestablish that eye contact as they will do so. When somebody decides that they will buy something, they, as a rule, will turn and face you to speak to you. Then use your chance to reestablish eye contact and say, "buy, buy, buy".

Russ: hmmm. And when we're trying to sell more stuff after they've bought something, then would be a good time to use it.

Omal: yes.

Russ: for example, "would you care for some popcorn with that drink?"

Omal: certainly. Or, "would you care for a drink with your popcorn?"

Russ: right.

Omal: or, "would you care for some other forms of junk food?"

Russ: now would this be called conscious coercion then?

Omal: yes.

Russ: okay.

Omal: because you're deliberately coercing them into doing something.

Russ: right, they wouldn't normally do possibly.

Omal: correct.

Russ: okay. And this is easily verifiable by the fact that my cost per person would go up if I found success with this.

Omal: yes.

Russ: okay, good.

Omal: okay, next question please.

Russ: okay.

Omal: we are rushing things due to the fact that we do have to attend the debriefing.

Russ: okay, all right. Now then, with coercion, there's the mental link. Is there a chance of mentally becoming bonded or somehow with these people, is there a problem with that?

Omal: the chances are it is more likely to be the opposite way around.

Russ: okay. Now then, how can I establish this bond without becoming too attached or them becoming too attached?

Omal: them becoming too attached is maybe desirable because it will keep them coming back to you and maybe buying more stuff. The chances of you becoming emotionally attached to them is up to you.

Russ: it depends how pretty they are.

Omal: yes, or intelligent or whatever.

Russ: right. Okay, that's it for questions.

Omal: okay, manifestation please.

Russ: manifestation? All right. Manifestation now, I'm finding that there's a lot more energy needed to break down my self-doubt.

Omal: uh-huh. Why is this?

Russ: mostly due to the fact that I'm fighting myself constantly.

Omal: uh-huh. You cannot believe that you do things.

Russ: right.

Omal: so therefore it negates the actual end result that you are trying to achieve.

Russ: right. Currently the only thing I'm having really success on lately has been the fire.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: working with that......

Omal: your little friend.

Russ: my little friend, right.

Omal: and how is your little friend? Happy and contented?

Russ: ohhhhhh, having a field day tonight. But with that......

Omal: extraneous expression please. A field day.

Russ: oh, a field day. I'm not sure where the expression came from but it's used to express the fact that everything is coming to you in great amounts.

Omal: ahh.

Russ: field day I suppose is some kind of celebration.

Omal: presumably.

Russ: yeah, not even I know some of the expressions I use sometimes or the origins of them.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: now, how can I take the successes I'm using with the fire and apply them to say using with a penny?

Omal: it is best to work on one thing at once.

(Omal coughs through Mark's body)

Omal: excuse me.

Russ: that's all right.

Omal: we will talk to the channeler about this.

Russ: okay.

Omal: it is best to concentrate on one thing at a time.

Russ: all right.

Omal: your penny trick has always been more for amusement for myself and others. But manifestation of fire, controlling divas is more easy, more malleable and flexible. For example, you take a spark of fire, by creating more heat around it you can get to enlarge and eventually burst into flames.

West: right.

Omal: you're not creating something from nothing. You have things to work with that are tangible and easy to work with.

Russ: right, which is a great start.

Omal: yes.

Russ: but is that true manifestation?

Omal: yes it is because you are kneading and pulling, and agitating all the molecules.....

Russ: that's the key.

Omal: yes.

Russ: needing.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: I do not need the penny, I need heat.

Omal: yes.

Russ: therefore I have incentive in my manifestation. I get it. So there's an incentive program for putting forth in my manifestation practice. So what I need to find is another project besides fire......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: where I have something I need.

Omal: yes. Desire does aid greatly.

Russ: yeah, because penny, I don't have the reoccurring substance to make it work like I work with fire.

Omal: correct.

Russ: it's totally different things so I don't have the successes I do with fire.

Omal: yes, it is the desire but we shall keep on with your penny.

(Russ laughs again)

Russ: okay.

Omal: when you can manifest a penny, then you can manifest what you wish.

Russ: right.

Omal: when it stays substantial for long periods of time then you can create whatever you wish. The penny is the start of advanced manifestation.

Russ: okay, a goal.

Omal: yes.

Russ: okay, in the meantime, find a need.

Omal: correct. But the knead that we were using is spelled differently. Such as kneading bread.

Russ: oh. Oh, I get it but it was a good keyword though.

Omal: yes, it is a keyword that is useful that we did not perceive. Okay, next question please.

Russ: okay. Once I have established my need.......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and have the correct incentive, can I go about using that in the same way as I use for fire?

Omal: yes.

Russ: in other words, currently what I'm doing is, I'm creating a negative feedback loop......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: but in a shortened sense because I'm sending it through my right arm.......

Omal: yes.

Russ: to send out the heat necessary for fire.

Omal: correct.

Russ: at that point, the energy from the front palm of my hand becomes quite hot.

Omal: yes.

Russ: which tells me that it's working.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, with a new manifestation of another different need, I can use the same energy flow........

Omal: yes.

Russ: to create what I need.

Omal: correct.

Russ: so what I need is the......

Omal: the desire.

Russ: right. The desire, I need the focus.

Omal: yes.

Russ: what?

Omal: what do you wish for next? You have the startings of manifestation of fire, what you need next?

Russ: healing.

Omal: okay. Healing is a slightly different field.

Russ: right, but is that the same as manifestation?

Omal: no it isn't.

Russ: damn.

Omal: manifestation and healing, they are close but manifestation is creating something, healing is repairing something. Healing suggests repairing oneself or somebody else.

Russ: right. But it's not true manifestation.

Omal: no.

Russ: okay. So I need to find something else besides healing and besides fire.

Omal: correct.

Russ: okay.

Omal: money, that is a frivolous exercise.

Russ: right, I don't want to work with money because that's a wrong direction I want to channel this into.

Omal: yes. And besides, you do get afraid of money.

Russ: right. If I was successful, it would just mess me up in the first place.

Omal: it would be a test of your resourcefulness not to be overcome by it.

Russ: true. It means that later on I could practice without it. But in the meantime, so healings out, money's out.

Omal: no, healing is not out. It is a different line of work.

Russ: right.

(Now Russ coughs)

Russ: for my purposes.

Omal: yes. You may try self-healing on that.

Russ: yeah.

Omal: okay, we'll let you think about that and we will proceed with the next question.

Russ: okay. Now, am I drawing the energy from my negative feedback loop from myself?

Omal: yes, it comes from you.

Russ: okay. Now then, is there a chance of burnout from using this too much from my cramming sessions here when we're practicing it?

Omal: yes there is a chance. However, the rewards are greater than the risk.

Russ: okay.

Omal: so it is your choice, do you wish to take the chance of burnout? Or do you wish to not take the risk?

Russ: no, I want to take the risk. Okay, now then, how far apart are coercion and manifestation?

Omal: they're different lines of work, different capabilities.

Russ: okay, so they'd be farther away than say manifestation and healing?

Omal: correct.

Russ: okay.

Omal: coercion is controlling somebody else. Manifestation is creating something and healing is repairing something.

Russ: right. Okay, questions. Right. Now then, with manifestation and looking for this item that I'm looking for to work with......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: keep it simple?

Omal: yes. If you start off simple you can build on to it. It is like how you build a house but with one block?

Russ: right.

Omal: yes, one block at a time, one piece of wood at a time.

Russ: okay. Now, what about setting up within my shields, but by practicing with going and changing the color......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: of the inside shield for the purposes of healing.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: what about bringing that color into a more physical form surrounding me?

Omal: so that you have a bluey-greeny hue around you.

Russ: correct.

Omal: you could try that.

Russ: let's see, I would accomplish two things. Number one, the healing and number two the manifestation.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: it would be almost like a cloud I suppose.

Omal: yes.

Russ: okay. All right, now let's take that for example.

Omal: okay.

Russ: okay? It might not be the one I choose, but for now that's the start of it. Now, in using let's say forming the cloud......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: the principle I would use then would be to begin my negative feedback loop as before.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: send the energy in to where it is only surrounded by my first shield but no farther.

Omal: uh-huh. You don't want to keep it within your shield.

Russ: you don't?

Omal: if you're manifesting fire you don't.

Russ: oh, no, this is the cloud.

Omal: okay.

Russ: okay. So, could I then send the color that I need through my right hand?

Omal: you could try.

Russ: okay. I think it would be kinda weird walking around with the blue cloud around me.

Omal: some people walk around with clouds around them produced by habits of burning nicotine.

Russ: true, true. Hmm, what about as a sideline, instead of working with something like say the blue cloud, what about with candles? Now that I think about it, I'm working with fire......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: this is just a smaller extension of fire.

Omal: yes.

Russ: and it would be more noticeable on an individual level.

Omal: the increase and then decrease in the size of the flames.

Russ: correct. Okay, I'll put a candle right here in front of me.

Omal: uh-huh. You have two handy I believe.

Russ: right.

Omal: you have one in front of you?

Russ: right.

Omal: okay.

Russ: okay, so I'll practice with this flame here.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and lower it.

Omal: okay.

Russ: okay....................................................................there was some difference.

Omal: hmm, how about the one on the other side? Has that increased in height?

Russ: yeah.

Omal: next question.

Russ: okay, using the fire here, the candle, it seems like I'm using coercion almost on myself to make the manifestation come about.

Omal: you cannot use self-coercion. How can you coerce yourself?

Russ: I do it every day.

Omal: no, it is not coercion, it is persuasion.

Russ: ahh.

Omal: you are persuading yourself to do something. You cannot coerce yourself.

Russ: okay, I understand. So in another words, all it is is knowing what needs to be done........

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and doing so.

Omal: correct.

Russ: okay.

Omal: as my colleague likes to say, "do or do not".

Russ: correct.

Omal: okay, next question please.

Russ: okay. What is the energy that's being used here? Is this just regular molecules that are being manipulated?

Omal: yes, you manipulate molecules to form or to act upon or to do whatever you wish. You could say that you coerce molecules which is inaccurate. You do not coerce molecules but that is basically what is happening.

Russ: right, you manipulate them.

Omal: yes. And how is your candle?

Russ: it's dying.

Omal: give us a few seconds......

(The candle flame dies)

Omal: or not as the case may be.

Russ: okay. Now, this is a simple question I'm sure you'll have the answer to. What exactly is a molecule? It's atoms, isn't it?

Omal: correct.

Russ: is it a grouping of atoms?

Omal: yes.

Russ: okay. And so, how do I get down to the very atomic level to work with these things?

Omal: you don't, you work with groups of molecules.

Russ: oh. For example, I couldn't get into like splitting atoms whereby........

Omal: goodness gracious no.

Russ: get a little explosive.

Omal: yes. You would not need a fire extinguisher.

(That gets a big laugh)

Omal: maybe a lead container.

Russ: well that's for sure. Okay, so leave molecules alone.

Omal: yes, don't try to split them. Don't try to break them down into atoms and then split the atoms.

Russ: right.

Omal: otherwise you'll have us to deal with very angrily as well.

Russ: I wouldn't blame you. Now, are molecules all the same?

Omal: no.

Russ: okay, so there are different molecules.

Omal: yes.

Russ: all right, now let's take the ones I'm working with here for fire.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: okay. Would those molecules inside next to the fire be different from the ones on the outside of the glass?

Omal: no. The reason why we said that not all molecules are the same is because on a cosmic scale there are different ones. Different parts of your galaxy. And one type tends to stick with the other type.

Russ: okay. Now then, we're speaking of molecules on a cosmic scale.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: what would differentiate the different molecules?

Omal: different molecules of different parts of the galaxy are built up with slightly different structures. The way that they come together to form things. Such as dark matter, light, planets.

Russ: right, so but on our scale here, molecules are pretty much all the same.

Omal: yes.

Russ: so it's just becoming familiar with those that I'm working with.

Omal: correct.

Russ: okay. Would it be like becoming like friendly with molecules let's say?

Omal: no.

Russ: getting to know them.

Omal: yes, that might be the way to proceed. Get to know your local, friendly, neighborhood molecule.

Russ: yeah, kinda like through a party for them or something?

Omal: yes, maybe.

Russ: okay. Actually, that's not a bad analogy when you think about it due to the fact that you're working with a group of molecules.

Omal: correct.

Russ: so therefore, to use manifestation, that group of molecule should become very familiar to you.

Omal: correct but molecules do decay over several billion years.

Russ: okay.

Omal: so do not pick on a molecule that is extremely ancient.

Russ: have a heart attack?

Omal: it might decay whilst your working with it.

Russ: okay, skew the results.

Omal: slightly.

Russ: how would you know which ones are ancient?

Omal: you cannot tell. As a rule, most of them in an analogy are middle-aged. I believe your scientists are interested in watching decaying molecules.

Russ: older ones.

Omal: yes.

Russ: okay. Can you feel molecules?

Omal: sorry?

Russ: can you feel their physical presence such as in wind?

Omal: your senses take them for granted because they are around you all the time. You yourself are made up out of molecules.

Russ: right. Tightly packed.

Omal: correct.

Russ: so with manifestation, what you're doing is packing the molecules...........

Omal: correct.

Russ: into very tight groupings.

Omal: correct.

Russ: okay. Now, say for example with putty, where you're packing them extremely tight......

Omal: yes.

Russ: they're still moving but they're moving at a slower rate.

Omal: correct.

Russ: so in other words, you're packing and slowing.

Omal: yes. Molecules do get stationary when they are packed quite densely. They vibrate slightly but they do not move around. Molecules that are in a solid form, they're packed tightly. In a liquid form, they flow around randomly in a nice, slow state manner. In a gas form, they whiz around at accelerated speeds. If you were to be able to see molecules in your air, they would be racing around extremely rapidly. If you were to look into some of the fluids around to see them moving rather sedately, occasionally breaking to the surface and then shooting off. Or if you were to visualize wood, it would be a lot denser and they would not be whizzing around. They would be pretty stationary, vibrating slightly.

Russ: okay. Now for my purposes, would it be easier to use a liquid substance to manifest within?

Omal: you could try. Anything that you try is beneficial because you are practicing.

Russ: right.

Omal: we feel that you sometimes neglect your practicing.

Russ: true, well there's a lot I'm working on right now and keeping all the fields going at the same time and the same rate.

Omal: we might suggest that you narrow your fields down to avoid burnout.

Russ: okay.

Omal: and also give yourself time to relax.

Russ: okay. All right, so we'll just work with manifestation, coercion, and farsighting.

Omal: correct.

Russ: okay, good enough.

Omal: okay, do you have any more questions for us as time is short?

Russ: no more.

Omal: okay. Have a good evening.....

Russ: okay.

Omal: and, I'll be back.

Russ: thank you Omal.


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