The Ultimate Meta-Concert and Teene Finally Talks-

Channeled (09/26/1995 & 09/08/1998)

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Archivist Notes: The podcast for December is a compilation of two sessions where one session had to be cut short due to a work schedule and the second was just half a session to fill in the rest. Because of that, we get two great discussions with both Omal and Karra. In a first for the archives, we have the honor to hear from Teene finally and it is well worth the wait. Teene is the mother of Treeny and the two of them often serve as technicians for our little group when they meet on the base to speak to us. Teene is our main technician and she is normally only known for letting us know when there is a technical problem on the base's side. We get a real conversation with her this time that is substantive and educational. Speaking of updates, Alana updates us on the status of the pod of earth dolphins who had volunteered to come to a higher dimension and interact with the pod of Sirian dolphins in Dolphin Lake. She and I located a pod off the California coast in one of the base's ships and was able to ask if they wanted the opportunity a while back. So far the merging of species was going well. Two more items of note before going into a more detailed summary are that the sound isn't of the highest quality as has been achieved recently but two recording engineers did the best with what they had. The second item of note is that, while it wasn't planned that way, the editorial from both Karra and I this month is closely tied to our discussion on death that took place with both Omal and Karra. Somehow it always just seems to work out naturally without any need for our help. Spoiler alert, Karra reveals in her first of the two times speaking of when she sees us as having a similar opportunity as Sirius to ascend as a race. Now onto the detailed session notes.

   Our ring mistress with her feline ancestry makes a joke about roasting a dog as we get started but that isn't an unusual statement after we've known her this long. We get the good news that the triplet daughters of Mark and herself enjoyed the stuffed salmon which is what was actually served as they are just old enough to eat cooked food. We don't stay long with Tia as she switches with Omal to get to the serious questions and answers that brought us all together. Our discussion focuses on enlightenment through a deeper connection with the world around us. Then he combines that with the many past lives making up the self who is continuing a path upward in evolution. He very accurately describes my life prior to this one in an example he uses long before I even knew what had taken place in that life as far as my interest in herbs. He then helps me with a revelation on life I get so much more now than I did then with all the experiences to let me grasp the concept properly. He leaves with a "Star Trek"/"Star Wars" remix of an exit line before Tia takes over and we get into a deep theological discussion on the essence of God or, in her case, Goddess. She defines the ultimate meta-concert that shows great insight into that which unites all religions. The definition is not one that takes much time so Karra is set to take her first turn that we would hear of her on the tape. We start our discussion on a future life where she and I would be sharing the same dimension for a change and how she hopes her grandmother would still be alive after I was no longer among the living. With her ability to communicate with those who have passed on, it would be a valuable help. It's a concern for her grandmother's health that we find out that Sirius is about to celebrate their 80,000th year since their ascension, a milestone for any civilization to be able to have that for a history of achievements. Reincarnating over and over on a higher dimension brings up the subject of Miranda, the daughter of Alana, and me. She is the reincarnation of Kiri and Karra's mother who died while sacrificing herself to save the crew and passengers of the transport that developed critical problems. Much the same happens when we reincarnate as soul groups since close family and friends tend to stay together. We end with a valuable history lesson of the ascension of Sirius and how it led to the colonization of Atlantis that was to follow from those who did not ascend. Kiri comes on after her sister to get into a little political discussion that is cut short as Alana is suddenly in the channeling field along with Kiri. Hearing Alana, I deliver the news I had for her about the dolphins on the base which gives Alana the floor from there on until the end of the side which happens shortly thereafter.

  There is a breeding program taking place on Hades Base and side two is where Alana continues from where she left off on side one by providing the details of how it has been going. The Earth dolphins are volunteers in the program and so far it has been a success if only through the means of artificial insemination. It is then I point out the connection in how the two races of dolphins and people of both dimensions are similar in more ways than one. We end on the news that Alana's girlfriend is out of the hospital that we heard about in the August podcast and would soon be moving back in with Alana. Places are changed and we now get to talk to someone who has been the technician for most of our nine years of channeling sessions instead of her normal apologies for some technical glitch making it onto the tape. After munching one of the blue flowers of Sirius, Teene enters the channeling field to answer a question I had been wanting to ask her regarding the rejuvenation process. Normally every three hundred years, Sirians have parts of their physical bodies rejuvenated back to the twenties or thirties and Teene had just been through her first rejuvenation. This is more information on the process than we had heard before so it was very helpful for the archives. Her second bit of shared knowledge was about the differences in males of different dimensions. An attempt to conceive a child with Mark turned into more pleasure than she was expecting from what she knew of third dimensional males she had listened to while being the engineer for other groups than ours. It was eye-opening for both her and us. I had to get off to work on what should have been my day off and so we bring the session to a close. To make a full podcast, we added together with a half a session that also was not complete with a whole new group of participants on the third dimensional side asking questions of the speakers. First up is Omal who gives us a status update on the world as far as how close it is to total anarchy. He reminds us of a prediction of Tia's that the United States would have problems that would begin externally. It turns out that she was right on the mark so Omal explains the chain of events in their proper order. In answering a question on future possibilities next, he gives us a short breakdown of parallel universes that we've heard a number of times to explain that there is no way to predict the future with any certainty. He ends his time speaking by confirming our evolution is tied to world events which we are becoming more aware of due to the greater access to news. Now, this was in the 90s and the news available was still fairly limited compared to the accessibility we see today. We end the side with a talk from Karra on the pending visits of some Ashtar Command VIPs that would include Leonedies who she refers to as his Conference name of Daniel. Lastly, she has some personal warnings for a trip I was taking to Mexico and what to prepare myself to stay safe.                               

TIA- Ring Mistress MARK (Channel)
OMAL RUSS (Archivist)


1.)(2:35)- Omal stresses the importance of being in tune with yourself and your surroundings in a life of enlightenment and how past lives are ways to advance the lessons we've already learned in prior lives.
2.)(19:25)- Tia points out the goal post those who are looking to advance consciously as being part of the ultimate meta-concert without a physical form creating the ultimate creation.
3.)(23:52)- Karra and I discuss my eventual death and hopeful rebirth into a higher dimension with her as well as her mother's reincarnation. We then learn it's been 80,000 years since the ascension of Sirius.
4.)(00:00)- Alana and Kiri share Mark's vocal cords as they both are within the channeling field. Alana eventually establishes control and gets the short amount of tape left to the end of the side.

1.)(0:00)- Alana gives us a status check on the volunteer pod of dolphins from Earth and the pod of Sirian dolphins. From her we learn of some new births of the hybrid species created from pairings.
2.)(4:52)- With the help of a flower, Teene finally channels and she gives us an inside look at the rejuvenation process they go through to extend their lives and compares 3rd and 6th dimensional lovers.
3.)(16:08)- Omal gives a dissertation on how the planet was doing at the time and then gets into the details of how the external forces causing the U.S. problems actually form a chain he lays out.
4.)(33:14)- Karra announces that we'll be getting some dignitaries from Ashtar Command on the base and gives me some safety tips she had been researching about an upcoming trip of mine to Puerto Vallarta.
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(Tia begins the session with a stuffed salmon recipe)

(Tia says hello in Durondedunn)

Russ: how's it going love?

Tia: fine, how's it going for you?

Russ: a little busy tonight.

Tia: hmm, so I hear, Karra told me.

Russ: working for a living.

Tia: uh-huh, she's busy, too.

Russ: want some?

Tia: no thanks. I had lunch about......dinner about half an hour ago.

Russ: oh, you're full.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: so you're eating pretty early then?

Tia: yeah, well we have to on channeling nights.

Russ: uh-huh.

Tia: yes, guess what we had for dinner?

Russ: hamster stew?

Tia: no.

Russ: mouse stroganoff?

Tia: no.

Russ: gopher pudding?

Tia: no.

Russ: I don't know, what?

Tia: roasted dog, just kidding.

Russ: that's all right.

Tia: no, actually what we had was stuffed salmon, all the bones removed......which is something that I didn't know you could do until I lived up here.......then we stuffed it with nuts and mushrooms and all sorts of nice stuff.

Russ: hmmm.

Tia: then we stitched it up and we roasted it.

Russ: that sounds good.

Tia: yeah, there's garlic in it, garlic smeared on the outside, lemon....ohhhhh. Then we basted it with tons of butter.

Russ: mmmm.

Tia: Cubs absolutely loved it, their stomach digestive system can handle cooked food now, almost.

Russ: perfect.

Tia: uh-huh, let's get down to business.

Russ: okay.

Tia: you have any questions for me?

Russ: let's see what I have to work with. Are you in the pyramid tonight?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: oh good.

Tia: how did you guess?

Russ: visual shots would be the best way to describe it.

Tia: she's projecting pictures is she?

Russ: uh-huh.

Tia: like Mark’s body, I'm lying on my stomach, and I've got Karra giving me a backrub at the moment.

Russ: must be so nice.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: I'll trade you places.

Tia: no, you won't.

(Russ starts laughing)

Russ: yes, I will.

Tia: no, you won't.

Russ: in two seconds.

Tia: I'm not going to let you and Omal's sitting quietly meditating, I'll put him on next.

Russ: alrighty.


(Omal joins the channeling session for his turn speaking)

Omal: greetings and felicitations Russ.

Russ: greetings Omal, how you tonight?

Omal: I am functioning fine.

Russ: excellent.

Omal: okay, let us proceed.

Russ: you got it. Okay, first off, we're going back to the period that we were discussing last week.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and that is concerning the fact that were people, who were living simpler than ourselves back then, have a key to higher consciousness?

Omal: why?

Russ: well, our technology has made us a more a long-lived and more intellectually aware of our world than ever before, but it is in fact a less known sense that we are aware of our individual environments than they were.

Omal: yes, but you're not in tune with the nature, you're not in tune with your planet anymore.

Russ: that's what I was talking about, basically.......

Omal: you know more, but you also know a lot less.

Russ: right and if the case is that they had a key to higher consciousness why didn't we ever see it?

Omal: because it got replaced by artificial stimuli. Even until recently, there was a lot more people in tune with their surroundings.

Russ: right.

Omal: that could hear the insects crawling on the trees, that could feel when the weather was going to change, that knew that at certain times of the year it was better to plant than others.

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: they knew precisely when to plant. Now, it's when you feel like it as long as the weather and the seasons are correct.

Russ: right, because it’s more for fun than survival.

Omal: correct.

Russ: right but I mean when I say, why don't we see it back then with people living a simple lifestyle, why don't we have tales of whole tribes of Jesus' or whole cities full of Buddhas? That's what I mean.

Omal: because that is a higher consciousness again. There is being in tune with your surroundings....

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: but then there is being in tune with your surroundings and yourself, not concerned with the needs of the physical. Understanding that yet it is necessary to feed, it is also necessary to heal cuts, but to take pride in amassing fortunes is unnecessary. Take Mark for example.

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: what could he do with his money?

Russ: set up for the future.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: as far as putting money towards preparing for what we already know is going to come.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: that would be the most useful.

Omal: but would that subtract from the learning experience? To have everything already at hand, just go out and purchase all the food supplies you need and so on. It is certainly advantageous to have everything all laid in, but having to struggle for it is much more beneficial for him and I think he is aware of that.

Russ: hmm, that's true.

Omal: it makes it more precious and makes it easier to defend if you work for it.

Russ: so by stocking up and stockpiling, you lose part of the experience necessary for the lessons being taught.

Omal: it makes it cheaper.

Russ: hmm, I see which you mean. But if you're not around to survive the experience because you weren't well-prepared, what good does it make?

Omal: it is part of the learning experience, you know next time to be better prepared.

Russ: okay, I'm reading contradictions here. To be better prepared, we know that now already.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: so why not do that and skip having to go through that lesson?

Omal: because it is a lesson necessary to learn. If you do not prepare properly now you will realize it later on when you're waiting your period of rebirth that you should have prepared harder and you have to learn that experience again.

Russ: yeah, but we already know what's coming down, we know we can start preparing now for.... 

Omal: your speculation on mass food shortages, rioting, having to use weaponry to defend yourselves, it could or could not. You see, it is not set in stone so therefore depending on how bad the situation, depends on how much you learn or how little you learn. If it's a situation where you're struggling constantly from day-to-day to survive, you may learn more to be in tune with your environment. Whereas opposed to a minimal level, you may learn to be more in tune with your survival instincts.

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: both are valuable lessons to learn. So it does not matter if it is mass rioting all over, including here or, if it is mass rioting far away in large cities and people just fleeing from them putting a strain on the transportation services and the food distribution services.

Russ: right. But what I don't understand is the fact that okay, let's say you plan for the worst....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: mass rioting here in Tahoe, which I don't think would happen either, but let's say you plan for that and you got all this stuff here and it doesn't happen......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: well all you've done is you stockpiled stuff that you might need later on anyway or you might not. In  either case.....

Omal: but you have pointed out that there are certain things that are perishable even in can form.

Russ: true.

Omal: so therefore purchasing vast quantities of canned food will last you maybe a year, maybe two years.

Russ: right.

Omal: but it is also necessary to remember that no matter how hard it gets there will always be a supply of food. The more important things that you need would be means of getting the food.

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: your transportation device with the internal combustion engine is irrelevant.

Russ: right.

Omal: you have a bicycle, you have a garden, you have a drying machine, you have heat sources, you have an inexhaustible supply of heat........

Russ: you mean wood?

Omal: correct.

Russ: right.

Omal: and so on.

Russ: okay. And what about water? It would need to be filtered.

Omal: snow.

Russ: snow would need to be filtered.

Omal: of course.

Russ: but I mean you would have to prepare lets say a filtering device....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: that you can run your water through prior to drinking it.

Omal: correct.

Russ: that's preparedness.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: I mean by not preparing, you face the risk of giardia and other various waterborne bacteria.

Omal: correct.

Russ: and that wouldn't be much of a learning experience.

Omal: yes it would be a very useful learning experience.

Russ: well that's true, you need to prepare right.

Omal: correct.

Russ: hmm.

Omal: okay, next question please.

Russ: okay, now when people basically lost their ability to sense their senses around them.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: what was going on in nature, how did they manage to gain that back? We see that now coming back in some places.

Omal: by becoming more in tune with oneself through one's leisure time or leisure time. Such as people going off backpacking in the woods learning that if they do not listen, they will get eaten by mountain lions or mauled by bears. Or that harmless, cute, little fuzzy creature down there that that doesn't look very well in actual fact is carrying death.

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: so by spending more time in your areas of desolation or natural beauty, depending on which way you look at them, you learn to be in tune with was that noise a bear, was that noise a mountain lion, was that a rockslide? Will that cause a rockslide and becoming in tune with your environment. And from this, you get a spiritual awareness as well. By spending more time watching the beauty, the sunrise, the sunset, listening to the birds sing, listening to the wildlife around you, again you become more in tune with yourself spiritually. Which is a twofold benefit that you have become spiritually enlightened and also aware of your environment.

Russ: uh-huh. Well, let's go to what you were discussing before about say Jesus...

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: who not only was more aware of his environment but also aware of himself.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: now, in you're out in your environment, I suppose meditation and stuff that you would enter into being as you are in a mountain environment would aid in getting you closer to that goal.

Omal: uh-huh, you have to remember that Sananda did have an advantage over most people.

Russ: a higher consciousness being coming into a lower dimensional....

Omal: and having access to all his past selves.

Russ: right. Well we have that access.

Omal: yes, but he had it readily.

Russ: oh, that's true.

Omal: he did not have to go to a regressionist by the name of Russ to have his past lives brought out to him.

Russ: ahh. So that takes me to my next question is, do goals set in motion with our desire for reincarnation after death determine how we use the opportunities presented?

Omal: yes it does.

Russ: how so?

Omar because being aware of all the possibilities that are occurring and taking into consideration the factors in your rest period between lives gives you the opportunity on what you wish to learn and how that will affect your learning experience.

Russ: hmm, okay. So we instinctively recall our past lives, right?

Omal: not instinctively, it is on a subconscious level where it is a simple nudge. The feeling of déjà vu that it has happened before is learning a lesson. It may be a very small trivial lesson or finishing off a lesson but it is learning a lesson. Because the feeling of déjà vu, that it has happened before, is quite correct, it has happened before.

Russ: uh-huh. Well what about let's say I've never been regressed to my life as a druid.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: but yet I feel like I have been a druid at some point.

Omal: that is quite possible.

Russ: okay. Even just assuming that I was a druid at some point, then how do I draw in from those lifetimes the lessons that I learned as a druid? Subconsciously I mean.

Omal: your interest in herbs.

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: you look for a meditational aid in other forms of herbs. Your knowledge on those forms of herbs.

Russ: I like the way you put that, that was quite good. I see which you mean, that is a knowledge that passes with me through lives as I go along.

Omal: correct.

Russ: hmm.

Omal: in your past life most recently, you could've been a naturalist that was very keen on herbs.

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: you could've been a pacifist that was into herbal healing. You take those things with you from life to life. Maybe as Naxxus you were also had a hobby of dealing with plants. We know that Maxxus had a very keen interest in roses and what has that have in common with Mark?

(Maxxus and Naxxus were brothers from Sirius who were part of the initial colonization of Atlantis. They were also Mark and I in that past live of ours) 

Russ: his interest in roses.

Omal: yes, exactly.

Russ: hmm.

Omal: he still has that after a hundred thousand years.

Russ: right which makes me think that maybe past lives aren't so past as we think.

Omal: one affects the other. What was one of the things you most enjoyed as a child?

Russ: probably shadows.

Omal: and do you not still like projecting shadows onto a screen?

Russ: yes.

Omal: you have just taken it from a lower level to a higher level.

Russ: right.

Omal: and it is the same with past lives. Yes, they were in the past, yes, you do have access to them, yes, they do affect you, yes, you do carry them with you throughout your life into your next life. But also, it is necessary to remember that if you compare your growing in your physical body at present with your past lives, there is a lot of similarities because you go through phases as a child as you do in your other lives.

Russ: hmm, I see. So it's our past lives are basically microcosms of our real life now.

Omal: present life.

Russ: present life.

Omal: real-life suggests that the other lives were fictional, they are not.

Russ: they're not, but it's a pattern that I'm continuing each life. So if I get this right, each life prior to birth, we plan out how to make each new lesson more of that experience that we've had throughout all our lives.

(Omal claps)

Russ: all right, I'm a little slow here, but I'm catching up.

Omal: no, you have just made a very large step.

Russ: hmmm.

Omal: you will not realize it yet, but you will later on, it will hit you.

Russ: I have grasp of what that step is but I'm working on it. So basically, when I let's say go back to work and I realize that the deed I do is a change from what I'm used to doing with somebody....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: then what I'm doing is realizing that past life is affecting my future.

Omal: correct.

Russ: hmm.

Omal: you have to remember that sitting.......lying next to me outside the pyramid is your other half or self or mind.

Russ: right.

Omal: she says, "child of my mind". I would like to say, soul minds.

Russ: soul minds, yes. So basically being understanding........oh, how's that fit in with our conversation?

Omal: it is how to learn to handle yourself.

Russ: all right.

Omal: it is a reminder that you are not as spiritually advanced as you would like to.

Russ: now let me ask you a personal question Omal.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: how would you have dealt with that?

Omal: for one...

Russ: if this was to be a learning experience then...

Omal: for one, I would've known. You have to remember that I see things above people's heads.

Russ: right.

Omal: I hear their thoughts if I'm in tune with them.

Omal: how I handle it would be totally different from how you handle it so therefore I cannot answer for you.

Russ: right, I knew that already.

Omal: you have to answer for yourself.

Russ: uh-huh. It's always great to hear it from a higher perspective though. Good point to listen to for the next time. Well that's all I have and I'm going to have to dwell a bit on what we discussed.

Omal: okay.

Russ: I look forward to next week.

Omal: live long, prosper......and for your information........the reason why we are not using our normal channeling room at the moment is that it is being used by another group.

Russ: ahh, that's no problem.

Omal: that needed more channeling time.

Russ: hmm, good.

Omal: not a dysfunctional group, not like this group.....

(Russ starts laughing)

Omal: but a group that was getting to a critical stage of falling apart........

Russ: oh.

Omal: due to the fact of environmental factors and unfortunately it was necessary to put them in on your Tuesday night so that they could have their extra tuition.

Russ: well thank you for making the time to come into the pyramid.

Omal: you're welcome. Live long, prosper, and may the force be with you.


(Tia takes some time getting us to the next speaker)

Russ: hi Tia.

(Tia says hi in Durondedunn and then starts purring)

Russ: that is one great guy.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: quite a privilege getting him in as the main speaker tonight.

Tia: uh-huh. I'm a very happy kitty. Ohhhh.......hold on one second.

Russ: all right.

Tia: Karra's apologizing. Okay, next question.

Russ: did you know about that, about the past life deal?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: hmm, must be standard training.

Tia: uh-huh, yeah. And to answer your question why I jumped, Karra might have relayed it to you, but she was massaging around my tail and she kind of pricked it with her finger.

Russ: hmm.

Tia: my tail, it is very sensitive.

Russ: so, darling?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: what is the point that we're heading to? If we add onto each life.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: and we keep making it more of an essence of what are other lives have all been.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: what's our final goal then?

Tia: I'll give you a clue, "oh God, he's not going to learn".

Russ: would that be Omal?

Tia: Omal? Is that who you perceive as God?

Russ: oh no, no, no, but I mean, that's a higher sense of perspective.

Tia: go up past Sananda.

Russ: oh.

Tia: becoming part of the great mind that everybody perceives as the highest entity.

Russ: is that what you perceive the highest entity as?

Tia: call it what you will, God, goddess, that is as high as you can go. Living forever, independent, individual of yourself but yet helping everybody out.

Russ: hmm.

Tia: creating the ultimate creation.

Russ: so what about Sananda now? Doesn't he create the ultimate creation now that he's reached that, or he's still got a ways to go?

Tia: I think he's still got a ways to go.

Russ: hmm, that's a mind-boggling concept.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: how are you doing love?

Tia: I'm doing fine. I think the best way to describe Sananda is that he's close, but he's still got a long way to go. It may be a million years, it could be a billion years, but to him that is irrelevant. What did he say in his prayer? "Our father who art in heaven?"

Russ: uh-huh.

Tia: that is implying that there's somebody higher than him.

Russ: and the fact that........wait a moment, if there's someone higher than him.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: and we're all shooting for that....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: that means it's not a singular him. It's either a combination of many beings forming a singular entity or it's many entities acting as one. Though that might be the same exact thing as I just said.

Tia: uh-huh, and what do you call that?

Russ: God.

Tia: it's the ultimate meta-concert.

Russ: right.

Tia: see, when you get to that level, joining in sexual fun is no longer as important as it is when you still have a physical form.

Russ: uh-huh.

Tia: Ashtar doesn't seem to be as concerned as Omal would be if I was getting down in between Karra's legs. Ashtar would just think that it is amusing. Omal would think it was absolutely hilarious and should be done in private. You see what I'm saying?

Russ: right, it's a question of perspective.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: how high can your perspective go?

Tia: okay, I'll put on the next person.

Russ: all right, talk to you soon. 


(Speaking of Karra, it's her turn to speak)

Karra: hello dear.

Russ: hello love.

Karra: hey, what can I do for you?

Russ: oh lots of things.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: like get Tia to switch places. I could use a nice backrub right now.

Karra: yes, I know. But you have to imitate Ballou and look for the bear necessities.

Russ: well, it's just....

Karra: how does he give himself a backrub?

Russ: grabs a tree and rubs down. But you know what I mean, it's like it's still so frustrating to be so close and yet so far from you.

Karra: patience.

Russ: oh, of course, how could I not have patience?

Karra: patience part of my mind.

Russ: I mean when I get to a place.....

Karra: soothing......

Russ: where I have to accept my destiny.....

Karra: yes.

Russ: by not accepting it, then it shows a lack of consciousness and an impatience that will just keep me from getting that consciousness.

Karra: don't let it bother you. Let us carry on as we are, it is fun and pleasurable is it not?

Russ: yeah, I mean....

Karra: and are you not learning?

Russ: once in a while very rarely do I actually express the fact that I would like to be there sooner.

Karra: but it's there.

Russ: of course.

Karra: uh-huh. Hold on one second, I want to get Tia to roll over.

Russ: oh.

Karra: there, that's better, she's rolled over. I'm sitting astride her at the moment.

Russ: okay.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: now, for example, the other day when I came up see you....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: that was very pleasurable, that was a nice meeting of minds and I love that kind of work with you.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: and that's why it's things like that can keep me very patient for the time where we'll be together and we can do that in person all the time.

Karra: uh-huh, oh yes. I plan to take fifty years off so that we can wander around for fifty years and enjoy the pleasures of life.

Russ: absolutely.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: so I have no problem waiting that long.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: it's going to be as much pleasure then as it is now.

Karra: have you thought on who you want to be your mother?

Russ: hmm.

Karra: no, not me.

Russ: no, of course not you.

Karra: yes, she would make a good mother wouldn't she?

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: maybe, you can decide in your waiting period.

Russ: right. Well, we'll decide together, probably. I still haven't figured out that concept yet but I know it's there....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: and it's real, trying to figure out how it's real. For example, if someone is living....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: how can they assist you in the waiting period? They'd have to be on a totally subconscious.......

Karra: that is where my grandmother comes in.

Russ: hmmm.

Karra: you see, she walks that very fine line.

Russ: hmmm. 

Karra: although she is getting very old and and hopefully she will still be alive then to help. But she walks a very, very fine line between the living world and the spiritual world.

Russ: hmm, and she's not the only one who does that.

Karra: no, there are others. But you know her, you have met her so it would be easier for you.

Russ: hmm, great lady.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: I like her a lot.

Karra: yes, she is a lot. As she puts it, she's just a simple country girl.

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: in fact, she stopped wearing shoes now.

Russ: she liked that movie, I thought that was really cool.

Karra: uh-huh, yes.

Russ: anybody that likes that movie is got to be cool.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: so anyway, yeah I'm quite content letting things go as they are. Because I'm loving life here.

Karra: yeah.

Russ: every day is a new experience.

Karra: uh-huh. Oh, I got a letter before I came over or a disk rather.

Russ: oh, from who?

Karra: from Goronski, Gonzo to you.

Russ: oh, your new mother-in-law.

Karra: future mother-in-law.

Russ: future mother-in-law.

Karra: uh-huh. She was asking my advice.

Russ: on what?

Karra: well, not coming from a very wealthy, political family, she wanted to know how should she act and behave as the betrothed to a member of a high house.

Russ: how'd did you know, you've never been one.

Karra: sorry?

Russ: you've never been betrothed to a high house, you just been a high house.

Karra: she was asking my advice on how to behave.

Russ: you mean act like a lady?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: that's not something you can just pick up, that's something you're trained with isn't it?

Karra: you can learn from other people and I told her to be herself.

Russ: well, she'll be more like Kiri.

Karra: she can be very regal when she wants to be.

Russ: especially at fancy dinner parties.

(Ed. note: Kiri had an incident about a pool and a party once from the first podcast "Etiquette")

Karra: she was young and impressionable then.

Russ: that's true.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: I love that story about your mom though.

Karra: yes.

Russ: classic.....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: classic, classic story.

Karra: yes, I am a little bit concerned about Miranda though.

Russ: why, she hasn't shown that yet has she?

Karra: no, but I can see it happening.

Russ: oh, right?

Karra: uh-huh. I think she was more closer to Kiri when Kiri was growing up than she was to me actually.

Russ: well, she was her little girl.

Karra: yeah, and they are very much alike in personage.

Russ: well, Kiri probably picked up a lot of her habits.....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: and styles.

Karra: yes, I think Kiri used to watch, it wouldn't have surprised me.

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: even when mother knew that she was dying, she still gave a lot of pleasure and entertainment to other people.

Russ: well that's good.

Karra: it was only in the last six months of her life that was painful and uncomfortable for her.

Russ: well, sorry for your pain on that one too.

Karra: well, it is something I've learned to cope with over the years. Besides, I have her back.

Russ: that's true, that's true. Now what about you? I mean, you didn't know you were going to get her back this soon.

Karra: no, I wasn't expecting it for another hundred years or so.

Russ: right. And then all of a sudden she comes back and not only is she in your family, she is your granddaughter.

Karra: great-granddaughter. No, my granddaughter.

Russ: not great-granddaughter.

Karra: she is her own great-granddaughter.

Russ: right, she is her own great-granddaughter. So, I mean, now you........ and this is amazing for me is to watch how you can see the perfection of things that happen like that.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: wherein I mean, I don't think you even expected it to be that.

Karra: well, talking to my grandmother, she sees a lot of her little girl again.

Russ: does she?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: hmmm.

Karra: the stories that we've told about her filling her diaper and then reaching in with her fingers and throwing it at people made her chuckle. We relayed it by subspace and I was telling her the story.....

Russ: Miranda's done this?

Karra: yes.

Russ: oh, I never heard this one.

Karra: it is a first time that it occurred, and she chuckled and she said, "yes, that she used to do that a lot, but she broke her of the habit".

Russ: well done. Hmm, well, did your grandmother see it coming? I mean she is so close to........

Karra: she hasn't said.

Russ: oh.

Karra: I'm a little bit concerned about my grandmother as that she seems to be more apart than she used to be.

Russ: you mean like more closer to the other side kind of thing?

Karra: yes, uh-huh, she seems to spend more time there than she does here.

Russ: so here's a question for you.....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: if she does pass over....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: who's going to be her mother?

Karra: I think she deserves a nice long rest myself personally.

Russ: I agree, I agree.

Karra: uh-huh but knowing my grandmother, she will come back very quickly because that's the way she is. I remember as a little girl, you know how unhyperactive we can be....

Russ: well?

Karra: she was hyperactive even by your standards. I remember being up on her shoulders being running around the house or she was doing the running as a little girl and ducking and weaving in between doors and things and then she put me down and I would be puffing and panting and she would be off again.

Russ: that's a good one.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: well, I suppose I could go see your grandmother couldn't I?

Karra: uh-huh, at this time it wouldn't be prudent.

Russ: at some point in the future though.

Karra: yes, very much so. Yes, she would be delighted.

Russ: how would I find her?

Karra: how would you find her?

Russ: yeah, I.....

Karra: well you know the....

Russ: I know where you guys live...

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: where is it in relationship to that?

Karra: you know the very big hill behind us?

Russ: yeah.

Karra: the one that is snowcapped?

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: you go around that hill and there is a lower hill that is also snowcapped....

Russ: okay.

Karra: and, at the foot of the snow is a monastery.

Russ: oh, okay.

Karra: what is that?

Russ: I haven't figured it out, it's been a few days now. Kind of strange. All right, just give me a clue on when I should go on up.

Karra: it would be better after the new year, later of your year. And the reason is that we're getting on our home planet ready for a big celebration.

Russ: oh, what's that?

Karra: it will be the I think the 80,000th anniversary.

Russ: of what?

Karra: of our ascension.

Russ: 80,000? Wow.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: that's a mindbogglingly concept.

Karra: yes it is. So we will be having lots of Renaissance type fairs like you had.

Russ: so that means our trip from Sirius to earth.....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: took place 20,000 years before you ascended.

Karra: that's right.

Russ: so therefore those who were going to ascend and those who weren't going to ascend knew 20,000 years in advance.......

Karra: uh-huh. We were, as you will be in a thousand years when we ascended.

Russ: now here's a question for you though....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: if your life span is only a a thousand years....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: then they were looking at least twenty lifetimes.....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: before that they were going to ascend.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: well, this was before rejuvenation, but still, I have to assume that they knew that they could of gone twenty more lifetimes on Sirius before they would actually have to.....

Karra: there was already habitation on sixth dimensional Sirius at that point.

Russ: oh, there was?

Karra: yes.

Russ: 20,000 years before?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: oh, no wonder.

Karra: there was the hundred thousand that is the gene pool.

Russ: already?

Karra: that we are all descended from, just a hundred thousand individuals, they are the gene pool. You see, when they came to your planet, or we came to your planet......

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: there was already......the hundred thousand had already arrived.

Russ: on sixth dimensional Sirius.

Karra: that's right.

Russ: so who actually came from Sirius to earth? Those who didn't choose to go, the extra people past the hundred thousand?

Karra: those that were close, but not ready, that was self-evident.

Russ: yeah. So basically.......gee, how come I wasn't part of the hundred thousand? Just kidding.

Karra: if you're not careful, you might not be part of the hundred thousand for the next gene pool.

(that gets Russ laughing pretty hard)

Russ: no, I missed the boat last time, I don't want to miss it this time.

Karra: you will be going back home.

Russ: right.

Karra: okay, I'm going to put on the next person.

Russ: okay love.

Karra: as I want to finish Tia off because she's purring contentedly and thanks to Teene we've tightened the field down so it's just focused on my head.

Russ: okay.

Karra: and she's jiggering the control to make sure it stays on my head with my head movements.

Russ: well, let her widen the field, I'll see you later love.

Karra: uh-huh.

(Tia purrs her way into the transition of speakers)

(Tia is still purring)

Russ: yo, what up?

Tia: oh, I'm contented.

Russ: oh good, is Kiri coming on next?

Tia: yeah.

Russ: good girl.

Tia: in fact I think she's coming off right now.

Russ: okay babe, tell her to hurry up and send her on in.

(We hear Tia give a little yip)

Tia: she just slapped me. She said that she wasn't coming off.



(Kiri comes on but only for a little while)

Russ: yo, what up babe?

Kiri: yo.

Russ: yep, tell Teene it's a good job she's doing on you guys right now.

Kiri: uh-huh. Yeah, she's working hard on it. She's actually the only one that's sensibly dressed, she's wearing a T-shirt at the moment.

Russ: well that's good. Hey sweetheart, what up?

Kiri: yo.

Russ: yo baby. So politics......

Kiri: okay, politics.

Russ: this morning.....

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: I've got some news you might've heard, I don't know if you have or not, our funny friend with a big nose and the big ears?

Kiri: Mickey Mouse?

Russ: close, Perot.

Kiri: yes, Mickey Mouse.

Russ: right, he is forming a new party.

Kiri: yes, I heard.

Russ: ahh.

Kiri: Tia relayed it to me.

Russ: oh she did, good? Okay, and he's going to be endorsing the candidate that he feels would be best suited for the job. 

Not not ruling himself out of course.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and not ruling out people like Powell.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: but I see.....

Kiri: it's rumored.....well, it is stated by Powell that Perot has called him.

Russ: hmm.

Kiri: didn't know that, did you?

Russ: uh-huh. Well, if that's the case, then we're going to have the same problem we had last time.

Kiri: uh-huh, and who's going to get reelected?

Russ: Clinton, my buddy.

Kiri: uh-huh, is he still your buddy?

Russ: I'll have to re-vote for him again now, I'll have to re-register.

Kiri: oh please, do.

Russ: oh yeah, yeah, he's still my buddy. I mean he had some harrowing times there for a while and he will probably will be the cause of all these problems that we are looking forward to in the next couple years, but stand by your man kind of thing. 

Kiri: oh yeah, you've got to.

(Russ sings "stand by your man")

Kiri: or girl.


(Alana jumps in to share Mark with Kiri before taking over on side two)

Alana: hi Russ.

Russ: hey, what up.

Alana: hey.

Russ: Alana?

Alana: yeah, dude.....

Russ: dudette. Hey, I talked to other dolphins the other day, did you hear about that?

Kiri: oh you did?

Russ: uh-huh.

Alana: hey, I'm talking.

Russ: which one? Well I was just talking to Alana, who am I talking to now? Back to Kiri again?

Alana: Kiri told me that she was talking.

Russ: oh, well she was talking,....

Alana: yes.

Russ: and then you're talking and I'm talking to you.

Alana: yes I know. We only have one set of vocal cords between the two of us.

Russ: share girls. Anyway, I was talking to other dolphins....

Alana: uh-huh.

Russ: and, specifically, working with the earth dolphins.

Alana: uh-huh.

Russ: and....

Alana: could you hold on one second?

Russ: sure.

Alana: Kiri, we'll change, you're down.....




(Alana is back as I continue my thought)

Russ: I've discovered, and this is something I did not know, is that the earth dolphins have the same problem I've got.

Alana: uh-huh, accepting.......

Russ: accepting.......dealing and working with the higher consciousness beings.

Alana: uh-huh.

Russ: feeling not so much inferior.....

Alana: uh-huh.

Russ: it's just being able to comprehend and be able to work on their same level.

Alana: uh-huh.

Russ: which I thought was very fascinating.

Alana: uh-huh, we also have another pregnant earth dolphin.

Russ: you do?

Alana: uh-huh.

Russ: from a Sirian dolphin?

Alana: yes, but it was helped.

Russ: oh, it was?

Alana: uh-huh, yes.

Russ: I mean the one thing I noticed about that male is, he's losing his jealousy, but not completely.

Alana: no. No, not completely. We had to aid in getting her pregnant, she was at the point of ovulation.

Russ: oh.

Alana: so what we did was....

Russ: got sneaky?

Alana: yes, we slipped her a Mickey.

(Russ laughs)

Russ: I love it. So she got pregnant huh?

(Kiri butts in again)

Kiri: what was Perot doing up there, dude?

Russ: doing where?

Kiri: doing a Mickey.

(Russ chuckles and Alana shushes Kiri)

Russ: so anyway, the one thing they taught me is just living for the moment.

Alana: uh-huh.

Russ: they're very good at that.

Alana: yeah.

Russ: and I was watching them and boy, it's like Sirian dolphins are just like Sirians and the earth dolphins are just like....

Alana: just like earth.

Russ: just like earth.

Alana: uh-huh.

Russ: it was just amazing, I was like wow.

Alana: uh-huh.

Russ: and I was reminded of how you empowered the situation that day we picked them up.

Alana: yeah.

Russ: I mean, you asked them....

Alana: uh-huh.

Russ: if they wanted to go.

Alana: yeah. And also we do have two pregnant Sirian dolphins from an Earth dolphin.

Russ: the male got crazy huh?

Alana: we put him under sleep for a little while.

Russ: oh, borrowed some...

Alana: yeah.

Russ: ahh, I see.

Alana: uh-huh, we've got to for the germ pool....the gene pool.

Russ: so now, how's that little breeding scheme working now?

Alana: it's working slowly.

Russ: do we have the other dolphin conceiving yet.......or I mean not conceiving, but birthing yet?

Alana: she will be due in late April.

Russ: what's their gestation time?

Alana: nearly a year.

Russ: oh.

Alana: yeah, about 11 1/2 months.

Russ: I was going to say, it's been almost nine months now practically.

Alana: uh-huh.

Russ: not quite.

Alana: it varies from dolphin to dolphin, it varies from, well 10 1/2 to 11 a half.

Russ: hmm. Well, at least they're randy enough their own gene pool alive so much down here.

Alana: yeah, just like us up here huh?

Russ: uh-huh, just like. All right, so basically, what do we see with these new genetically bred dolphins?

Alana: well they're going to be a crossbreed.

Russ: right, I mean....

Alana: what's the chronometer time?

Russ: 9:13.

Alana: okay.

Russ: we've got about fifteen minutes.

Alana: uh-huh, we're going to have to hustle a little bit as we have one other person that is coming on.

Russ: oh okay. All right, so I'm going to deal with this point then we can call it on that one.

Alana: okay.

Russ: but the similarities are astounding.

Alana: uh-huh.

Russ: Sirian dolphins with earth dolphins, Sirian girls with earth men, the genetic..........where is this all going, darling? Same place as.....

Alana: I'm not a geneticist, you'll have to ask my mother.

Russ: will these possibly be the guardians of the dolphin race?

Alana: yes.

Russ: on the new planet?

Alana: possibly.

Russ: okay, so I look forward to that new arrival.

Alana: uh-huh.

Russ: and everything after that.

Alana: yeah. And guess who's moving in next week with me?

Russ: Kiri?

Alana: no, my girlfriend.

Russ: your girlfriend’s out?

Alana: yeah.

(Russ sings: "your girlfriends back and you're".........)

Alana: she's been out for two weeks.

Russ: she has?

Alana: yeah, she's been resting up in her apartment.

Russ: ahh.

Alana: well she's still feeling a bit woozy and the drugs are wearing off.

Russ: all right, well she knows I'll be....

Alana: anyway....

Russ: I know, have fun.

Alana: bye dude.

Russ: bye love.


(Tia does a quick turnaround of speakers)

Tia: uh-huh?

Russ: uh-huh?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: uh-huh.

Tia: uh-huh.

Rus: uh-huh.

(Tia launches into a long string of Durondedunn)

Russ: all right, well throw the next person on darling.

Tia: okay.

Russ: we're on a short one tonight.

Tia: uh-huh.



(Teene gets into the archives as a guest speaker for the first time)

Teene: guess who I am?

Russ: hi Lyka.

Teene: wrong.

Russ: wrong?

Teene: give you a clue. "Sorry, there's a temporary difficulty at the moment".

Russ: oh, Teene.

Teene: yes. You wanted to talk to me did you not?

Russ: always. I never get to but I sure always want to.

Teene: uh-huh, you wish to communicate, what with?

Russ: well I hear you wish for a child.

Teene: uh-huh.

Russ: well, how many children do you have already?

Teene: I have three daughters.....

Russ: uh-huh.

Teene: and two sons.

Russ: hmm, okay. Now the question I had is, even though you've already been through one rejuvenation.....

Teene: yes?

Russ: you've been taken back to an age before you're legally allowed to have children.....

Teene: yes? 

Russ: how do you get around that little statute?

Teene: ahh, understand. 

Teene: I get around it because I had my body rejuvenated. My internal organisms were unnecessary to be rejuvenated, that will come in the next 300 years.

Russ: ohhhh, I see.

Teene: you see, without rejuvenation, my body aged. My physical equipment, heart, lungs, cranial matter, intestines, uterus, ovaries did not. I did have my ovaries rejuvenated.

Russ: but that won't effect what you have to go through?

Teene: no, I did not have my bone structure rejuvenated.

Russe: I see. Now in your next one, will you have to change that all around your next rejuve?

Teene: yes, I will have a total body rejuve.

Russ: what about your brain, how do you save all the info?

Teene: that will not be rejuvenated. That is very seldom rejuvenated except for in cases of trauma.

Russ: brain damage.

Teene: correct.

Russ: I see, I see. Oh, very good way of doing it.

Teene: I have not until recently, ever slept with a third dimensional male, it is very different.

Russ: well yeah, that's for sure.

Teene: he is a very caring individual. He is not very dominating, he does not pry into the deep parts of my mind. I like him.

Russ: oh good. Well I think it would be a wonderful child.

Teene: it does not matter if I conceive or not, he is very different and unusual from normal males.

Russ: hmmm, I understand........

Teene: uh-huh.

Russ: I understand. Oh okay, well that's neat. And what's interesting is...

Teene: sorry, Kiri just whispered in my ear that he is a very caring individual to female needs.

Russ: maybe it's just the way.......well not all third dimensional males are like that.

Teene: ahh.

Russ: you got lucky.

Teene: he is not like third dimensional males?

Russ: no, they're there and I'm proud to say I'm one of them but it's not a common thing, no.

Teene: ahh.

Russ: well do you ever do the engineering for other channeling groups?

Teene: yes.

Russ: so you've had occasions to listen to other third dimensional males?

Teene: yes.

Russ: and....

Teene: they seem very dominating of their females.

Russ: right and that's generally the mindset that we deal with.

Teene: with Mark it was more like a sixth dimensional male but yet closer.

Russ: right. Well, you have to realize that that problem we have with other males really goofs us up with other women down here.

Teene: ahh.

Russ: we have to deal with that reputation.

Teene: uh-huh.

Russ: and if you're not one, very domineering, they all expect you to be.

Teene: uh-huh.

Russ: so.....

Teene: yes, I remember a channeling session where I was technician and I do five days of channeling sessions, mainly channeling session each evening, prepping and unprepping afterwards......this is like a day off for me working this one. But sometimes it is very difficult to listen to your males because they talk about themselves, their physical needs.

Russ: yeah. Well, that's why it's third dimension.

Teene: uh-huh.

Russ: that's why we're working on getting beyond that.

Teene: yes. The thing with sixth dimensional males is that they will probe into my mind.

Russ: why?

Teene: because they are trying to open up the pleasure receptors and they expect me to do the same. Most sixth dimensional women do that. When I make love with my girlfriends....

Russ: uh-huh.

Teene: we partake of each other and I do not like that from sixth dimensional males, but Mark was not like that.

Russ: yeah, that's because the concept is sort of foreign to us.

Teene: uh-huh. When we finished making love he held on to me and we stayed in each other's arms. It was very pleasurable. Even after normally I would have to get up and do something, I almost lost my bladder control because I was so contented and did not want to move.

Russ: hmmm.

Teene: if he hadn't of got up and gone to the bathroom, I think I would've wet myself. I think he might of as well.

Russ: God, that is beautiful.

Teene: what is?

Russ: oh, that story.

Teene: oh.

Russ: that's neat.

Teene: uh-huh. He is I find very caring and he was concerned at all times that he did not hurt me. I had to say that I was not made out of porcelain.

Russ: well you are very small. I mean you're like Tia almost as far as youth and everything.

Teene: yes, uh-huh.

Russ: so I understand that part from him, it's just a common thing. Well anyway darling, I'll have to talk to you more often.

Teene: I will endeavor to do so.

Russ: you're quite a conversationalist. It's just normally it's better than, "I'm sorry, we're experiencing technical difficulties at this time".

Teene: well, I have had a relaxation aid.

Russ: ahh wonderful.

Teene: yes.

Russ: flower?

Teene: uh-huh.

Russ: oh good job.

Teene: yes, and it's starting to kick in. I was munching whilst watching the monitors.

Russ: ahh excellent. Well I'll let you enjoy your enjoyable time........

Teene: uh-huh.

Russ: and I've got to unfortunately get back to work.

Teene: yes.

Russ: strange time schedule tonight. I look forward to hearing from you next Tuesday, hopefully.

(Teene says goodbye in Sirian)

Russ: goodbye love.

(Tia finishes up the session we had to cut short)

Russ: Hotito?

Tia: yes.

Russ: Sirian?

Tia: yes, I think so.

Russ: for goodbye?

Tia: hold on, if you want, I'll ask.

Russ: okay.

Tia: but I'm not getting much in the way of answers actually.

Russ: everyone's otherwise engaged?

Tia: uh-huh. Karra's trying to get her gear together whilst her daughter is.....

Russ: I know, it's a mental picture darling.

Tia: oh, they do project don't they?

Russ: yes.

Tia: okay.

Russ: all right love, we'll call this one a night. I'll get back to work and....

Tia: yes, you can call it Teene finally talks.

Russ: that's right, we are asking for your input on these now.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: good, I'll use it. Bye, bye love.

Tia: I'm going to go and deal with my primal urges.

Russ: bye love.

(Tia says goodbye in Durondedunn)

(Russ says goodbye in Durondedunn)

Tia: that's better.

Russ: thank you.


(We now start a whole new session that takes place three years later)

(Tia is in the middle of a conversation as the tape begins)

Skip: doing the thing.

Tia: just doing the thing.

Skip: we got it.

Tia: okay. Well, I don't have anything to talk about.

Skip: what do you mean you don't have anything to talk about?

Tia: I have nothing to talk about. I've been instructed just to do my ring mistress duties. No...

Skip: no comments?

Tia: no comments on political, no comments on financial...

Russ: see, you only have sixty minutes anyway Skip so it works out real well.

Tia: well, let's see what can I talk about.

Skip: you were told not to talk honey.

Tia: I was told not to talk about anything that I research, I am on holiday.

Skip: oh, you're on holiday? Okay, well we'll go along with that.

Tia: uh-huh.

Skip: can you deliver a message for me please?

Tia: where to?

Skip: to your grandmother, to my mom?

Russ: that would be Kiri and Karra.

Tia: no, not me.

Skip: not you okay.

Tia: not me.

Skip: okay, all right nevermind, nevermind...

Tia: uh-huh.

Skip: I just thought I'd inquire.

Tia: that's all right. Besides, I can't deliver, I can't go to my office, I can access my computer but all my files and everything are locked out, so I can't.......I'm just having fun.

Skip: you're dead in the water in other words?

Tia: no, I'm spending time with my girls.

Skip: oh okay, good.

Tia: uh-huh.

Skip: well that's neat.

Tia: yep. Me and my daughters are having fun, mother and daughter time.

Skip: there you go, that'll work.

Tia: uh-huh.

Skip: so who's our speakers tonight?

Tia: oh, yes, I have a list of speakers.

Tia: okay.


(Omal is back as we get double the lessons over two channeling sessions)

Omal: greetings and felicitations, greetings everybody. There are four of you, this is good. Okay, as I have nothing to cover on the previous comments...

(Russ and Skip start chuckling)

Skip: sorry Omal.

Omal: who is holding up the applause or laughter track? Okay, let us get down to business and I will give a brief dissertation concerning world growth and the way things are occurring at the moment according to predictions that were made by one of our analysts and stated in channeling sessions. It has often been commented that you are in case scenario A or A, B at worst. This is correct at the moment for your localized area of the continent of Northern America. However, I can see numerous locations on your global scale that are in scenario B or B, C even. So how does this bode overall for your planet? Well, it's definitely not A, B so let's call it B, that your planet on a general scale is in case scenario B. However, the little island of the United States is in case scenario A, B, which is lower than A. So what is going on on a global scale? Well, we have seen civil disobedience. We have seen food shortages starting to occur. We have seen financial problems, we have seen hostile military actions, all on a global scale happening all over your planet. And this affects the spiritual growth. The understanding that people are now concentrating on surviving as opposed to being able to pursue other matters is something that is occurring and needs to be looked at. In this occurrence of case scenario B, and in some locations B, C, it is looking as if it may spread. Now our analyst, who would normally go on about economic markets and other problems, made the predictions that the problems would start to occur for your country from an external source. As has been seen, these external forces do affect your country. Now, how do they affect them? Any ideas?

Skip: financially?

Omal: yes.

Russ: politically.

Omal: but how does the chain work? Let us address first of all financially. How does that chain work?

Skip: by the world market going down, our market goes down, doesn't it?

Omal: yes to a certain extent but why?

Russ: imports and exports.

Omal: correct. Okay, the way it works for understanding and clarification for the webpage, is that let us start in Japan and the far East where it's starting. Their markets overextend and credit becomes due and is needed to be paid. The money is not there because the spending has continued and taken the money outside of the country necessary to pay these debts. This means that the banks can no longer honor overseas debts and therefore their currency becomes more easily available. It becomes cheaper to the world, but for them it stays the same and means that their buying power is actually less. So anything that is imported is more expensive for them. After all, an item that is a dollar is ¥138 or more. 140, ¥142 equals one dollar. So therefore, that means that the yen buys less of foreign imports. Now, this means that the countries that are exporting to Japan don't need to export or cannot export as much which means that they now do not have the currency flowing. In turn, those countries that would buy from elsewhere, maybe raw materials, cannot buy those raw materials because there is less money. Which means that the producers of the raw materials in turn have to either lower the price or not export as much which means again that their economies become depressed. So that is the chain that occurs that spreads and creates problems. However, the United States is both a exporter and an importer on large-scale, hence the imbalance in trade. However, the United States is fortunate that it does not rely as extensively as other countries do on imports. In fact, I believe imports equal only maybe 10 to 20% of the products that are available to be purchased. Okay, let us answer questions as I believe time is limited.

Russ: I've got quite a few but I'll start with just one. Basically, when Kiri told us about the Sirian Chronicles....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: she mentioned a number of factors that led up to the advance of Sirius going into the sixth dimension.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: now on a global scale as you're mentioning how things are getting worse, we're not seeing any of those conditions being met and if you were to look at the globe, it would look like a sick patient.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: what parts are the sickest and where is it spreading to?

Omal: okay, what parts are the worst? Well, I would say definitely Malaysia, the Congo, Hong Kong, China. China, even though it is it is not an economic giant, is certainly having its problems with the flooding. The second question, which was?

Skip: how can we fix it?

Omal: how can you fix it?

Russ: did I say that?

Omal: how can you fix it? Well if I told you how you could fix it, what would I be doing?

Skip: you can't tell us.

Omal: no, I cannot tell you. For what reason?

Shane: classified.

Omal: no.

Shane: we've got to work it out for ourselves.

Omal: that's correct. Next question please.

Russ: go ahead guys.

Skip: can I ask a general question please?

Omal: certainly.

Skip: is this going to cease or can you tell me?

Omal: eventually.

Skip: okay, all right, that's more or less what I wanted to know.

Omal: there seems to be in increase in static activity. Am I correct in assuming that you had a electromagnetic activity going on in your vicinity?

Russ: none at the moment.

Skip: do what now?

Omal: a thunderstorm?

Shane: oh yes.

Skip: oh.

Russ: doesn't seem to be.

Skip: no.....

Russ: a little rain came through, that's probably what it is.

Skip: oh, okay, we had a little precipitation a little earlier.

Omal: ahh.

Skip: okay? But nothing that doesn't seem to be doing anything right now.

Russ: all right, so now going back to the Sirian Chronicles.... 

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: will we see condition similar to that in the future to initiate such changes as they saw?

Omal: one of the precursor events I believe in the Sirian moment please......yes, I am correct, is the fact that the planet was dying.

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: the planet was being affected by radiation from an external source, i.e. the sun.

Russ: right, but two suns I believe wasn't it?

Omal: correct, I do not believe that that is happening on your planet.

Skip: no not....

Omal: it was aggravated by other problems.

Russ: we got the, what is that thing above us to keep the solar rays out?

Skip: ionosphere.

Russ: that's right, that's going down.

Skip: they're punching holes in it, but it's healing itself.

Russ: oh, it is?

Omal: uh-huh.

Skip: yes, it is healing itself, that we were punching holes in it and yet it was starting to heal itself.

Omal: Skip is quite correct.

Russ: ahh excellent, thank you Skip.

Skip: oh, no problem.

Omal: give Skip a free membership to the memory division of Hades Base.

Skip: thank you, but scientists were running a little scared.

Russ: right, right, I heard that.........Freon.

Skip: because we were using putting propellants in aerosol cans and Freon from refrigeration units and so on and so forth.

Russ: right. All right, so we've got a condition where the planet itself is an scenario B.

Omal: correct.

Russ: and the United States is in scenario A, B.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: okay. In that case then it's like a virus then.

Omal: correct.

Russ: ahh.

Omal: so it must run its own course. How do you fix it? I cannot disclose that as I've stated.

Russ: you can't fix it, it's something like you say run its own course like a cold or a flu. And if that's true then Omal, isn't it the case then that those countries which are affected first will make the psychological and psychic changes necessary before the United States does?

Omal: I cannot speculate on that.

Skip: that's another prophecy....

Omal: uh-huh.

Skip: that would be.

Omal: yes.

Russ: well, we have discussed before, where those individual groups in the United States who are less well-off than those who are better well-off will make the necessary changes that enable them to make the conscious jump.

Omal: correct, we have discussed that.

Russ: right, I thought maybe that would work on a worldwide scale also.

Skip: it may, it may, but you can't prophesize it.

Russ: true.

Omal: and as I stated in it, it is getting in touch with their ethnic heritage.

Russ: oh yes, that's right.

Skip: okay, okay.

Omal: so therefore it is already there, I am not making a prophecy, I am stating what is fact.

Skip: okay.

Omal: it is there, it is dormant, struggle tends to bring it to the forefront.

Skip: okay.

Russ: so it's their choice.....

Skip: yeah.

Russ: they could, they could not. It's how they use the information they have available.

Skip: they have their choice, yeah, just like we all do.

Russ: I see.

Omal: correct. Young man, I have a little job for you.

Russ: don't look at me, dude.

Omal: if you can keep checking the recording equipment and keep us informed as our analyst who normally does that is busy tending to her young offspring, so if you can check it to make sure it is not getting too low.

Russ: yeah, because we only have sixty minutes tonight, not the usual ninety, so we're running short.

Skip: oh, it's a shorter tape?

Russ: it's a shorter tape.

Skip: okay, all right.

(Skip says to Shane)

Skip: the dial's in there, you can tell where the tape is.

Omal: okay, I have about ten minutes more I believe.

Skip: okay.

Omal: okay, there are so many different possibilities and the future that all possibilities can and do happen.

Russ: well......

Omal: but I cannot say that, "yes, that will be" as I would be prophesizing and I do not prophesize. I will speculate on known facts that we have available to us and speculate on possible outcomes and I will offer more than just one outcome.

Russ: now if I could add to that a little bit Omal from the experiences that you've taught me before.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: is that with our knowledge that Omal's taught us about parallel lives, that every possible situation is available for our future.

Linda: okay.

Russ: there is nothing that is not impossible in our future and so a lot of times what we see for the future, is a possible scenario that could happen if certain conditions are met. Now whether those conditions are met is another option altogether, but.....

Omal: may are rephrase that for you?

Russ: sure.

Omal: the future is like a piece of fabric. You can pick all the strands apart and those are all the possibilities of what may or may not happen. And in each strand there are many more strands. You can think of ten possible outcomes from a simple action. If you take yourself crossing the road and think of
ten possibilities that may occur and then think of ten more and ten more, you can keep on going. All those possibilities do happen all at the same time but in different timelines. Okay, next question.

Russ: I'm hogging them all, go ahead guys.

Skip: I'm fine.

(a kitten starts meowing)

Omal: the feline is requesting to be made a fuss of.

Russ: oh, come here. So anyway, now have you had a chance to review the page that was just recently updated?

Omal: yes, there are some mistakes that have occurred.

Russ: perhaps you could enlighten me on those so I could change them.

Omal: yes, Tia mentioned that Mark told her that you cannot get to the conference section.

Russ: oh.

Omal: you cannot get to one of the Defcon announcements...

Russ: oh.

Omal: as it goes directly to...

Russ: 404 error?

Omal: correct.

Russ: ahh.

Omal: when the session is over, if you wish to check it out........

Russ: yeah, I will probably......I'll see if I can update some stuff right from here if I can.

Omal: okay, last questions from each of you if you wish, but last questions most definitely.

Russ: I guess I'll start. Omal, with the advent then of our ability to move into our next phase of evolution, is our consciousness changing then exponentially to the disturbances going on globally?

Omal: correct, they are. The disturbances that are going on globally, you're becoming more aware of due to the medium of the news. This is affecting you spiritually and seeing the problems and difficulties which are going on. Next question.

Linda: in relativity, can you explain like........okay, I've of heard Einstein's theory of relativity?

Omal: uh-huh.

Linda: does that have anything to do with dimensions?

Omal: no, that is outside. That works just on your third dimension in your universe. You have to remember that there are a myriad of universes and a myriad of possibilities.

Skip: I haven't fathomed out what I want to ask you, so you go ahead. No problem.

Omal: okay. Live long, prosper, and as always, I'll be back.

Skip: thank you.

Shane: have fun.

Russ: bye.

Linda: bye.


(Tia is back and hustling to change speakers)


(Tia says hi in Durondedunn)

Skip: hi sweetie.

Linda: hello.

Tia: hey. Okay, let's put on the next person as the tape I believe is getting ready to be turned. Is that correct.....

Shane: yes.

Tia: Shane? Good.

Tia: okay.....

Skip: okay darling.

Tia: I'm off to put the next speaker on.

(Tia says goodbye in Durondedunn)


(Karra finishes out this side of the tape)

Karra: hello.......

Russ: greetings love.

Karra: greetings everybody.

Russ: how's it going?

Shane: just before you start, I just want you to know it's almost time to flip the tape over.

Karra: okay, I will bear that in mind. I'm doing well. Okay, let us......hmm, okay first of all, ambassadorial duties. Visitors will be coming, not for this next session, but the following session. I'm not quite sure who they are, all's I know is that they are important. Daniel of Hades Base will also be working with them. So not next week, but the following week, which is the week before you go off on your trip is a special night so we will deal with that.

Russ: I can guess who those people are then.

Karra: I'm pretty sure I know who they are but at the moment I don't want to say due to the fact that it could change like it has in the past.

Russ: right.

Karra: that's it on the ambassadorial side. Okay, preparations. Winter's coming, so it may be necessary to be prepared for a moist winter. Now I'm not making a prediction. It may be warm, warmer than normal, it may be moist which means that things may become a little bit tight at times. On the trip front, you know not to drink the water.

Russ: right, well the hotel we're at has purified water.

Karra: uh-huh. But when you go off on trips...

Russ: when we go out take water with us.

Karra: uh-huh.

Karra: even when you go on a boat, make sure that you bring your own bottled water.

Russ: right.

Karra: don't if you eat out, don't eat the salads. When you order out, make sure the food is cooked thoroughly. Forget about having things medium rare or sushi when you're out. When you're on the beach, stick to the center of the beach. Not to the far ends that are out of the recreational area. Don't assume by leaving your credit cards in your room that they are safe. If you have to leave anything valuable.......I've been researching.......

Russ: put it in the safe at the hotel.

Karra: uh-huh.


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