SIDE
ONE
(Tia begins the session by
informing our guest of her age in our years)
Tia: 27, no, 26 in your years.
John: you got it in?
Russ: yeah, it’s working.
Nicole: what your name?
Tia: Tia, they haven’t told you about me?
Nicole: yes they have.
Tia: and what have they told you? No I’m not a
ghost, we’ve covered that haven’t we? Or Mark
covered that with you? What do you want to know?
Relax.
Russ: how did you like Fantasia love?
Tia: hmm, it’s all right.
(Tia starts humming “The Sorcerer’s Apprentice”
after Russ starts her off)
Russ: who’s on tonight love?
Tia: who?
Russ: any special guests tonight?
Tia: who’s on first? Who’s on first?
Russ: I’m not playing, we'll go around and around in
circles.
Tia: spoilsport.
Russ: yeah I know.
Tia: okay, down to business. What questions do you
got for me guys before we get underway?
John: you still keep in contact with Durondedunn?
Tia: oh you're learning, you're learning, sometimes.
Yes I do astral travel to my home planet.
John: have you ever had an opportunity to take a
spaceship there?
Tia: no.
John: no.
Tia: they don’t let me.
John: oh okay. How often do you project yourself
there?
Tia: oh once every so often but it’s a real strain
on me, it’s quite some way out in space.
John: can Mark make it that far?
Tia: uh-huh, yeah.
John: he’s been that far?
Tia: uh-huh, he’s a smarty-pants clever, hah. It’s
bad for your health you know.
John: oh really?
Tia: uh-huh.
John: so there is some wear and tear on your third
dimensional body?
Tia: no, smoking.
John: oh, what’s that? Oh, yeah, I’m well aware of
that.
Tia: uh-huh.
John: yeah you should talk to Mark about it
sometime.
Tia: I do constantly and what do I hear? It’s on my
list of things to give up when I stop breathing.
(Tia sighs in exasperation)
John: well he did advise me to switch to the
roll-your-own kind?
Tia: uh-huh.
John: the more pure tobacco?
Tia: uh-huh.
John: and I’ve been able to do that.
Tia: okay and now the thing is to cut down on those.
John: I have.
Tia: oh good.
John: I’m working on it.
Tia: maybe we can…..
John: so I am making a conscious effort.
Tia: uh-huh, maybe we can get Buster here, this
person to cut down and you smoke too don’t you?
Nicole: yeah.
Tia: it’s a bad habit. Hold out your wrist and go
naughty, naughty, naughty, naughty, naughty,
naughty, naughty........go on.
Nicole: naughty, naughty, naughty……..you know my
name.
Tia: vaguely, it’s Nikki isn’t it?
Nicole: that's what I usually get called.
Tia: oh.
Nicole: I prefer to be called Nicole now as I get
older.
Tia: oh, as we get older huh? Well I can’t tell you
my full name because you wouldn’t be able to get
your tongue around it in my native language. So what
do you want to know? Oh well, we’re going to sit
here and look at each other huh?
Nicole: that’s what I’m doing with you.
Tia: yeah, it's hard to visualize me with Mark’s
body isn’t it?
John: yeah, considering you’re five-foot two,
strawberry blonde hair.
Tia: uh-huh.
Nicole: she thinks you’re a lot prettier than Mark.
Tia: I am a lot prettier than Mark but Mark has his
advantages.
Nicole: so what do you do on your planet Tia?
Tia: well where I am now, I analyze information,
research data and I research all sorts of
interesting things actually. Politics, world events,
civil events, all sorts of interesting things. Go
on, ask me a question.
Nicole: do you believe in Nostradamus’ predictions?
Tia: hmm, I’ve read his predictions but believing in
them there is certain random factors that are
inevitable. At the turn-of-the-century on your
planet they were making movies about going to the
moon. Totally impossible they said, totally
impossible, flights of fantasy. And what are they
doing? They’re going out beyond your moon. They’re
sending probes to all sorts of places. Jupiter for
one, where’s another one that they sent one recently
to? I think they’re sending another one out here as
well.
Nicole: so do you think the last prediction made, or
not the last prediction…..
Tia: oh, the one about the guy with the blue turban?
Nicole: yeah.
Tia: uh-huh.
Nicole: not the last one but in 3,900.......
Tia: yeah, about the guy with the blue turban.
Nicole: who destroys……
Tia: much of the world.
Nicole: yeah.
Tia: no, I don’t think he’s going to materialize.
Now the question is, how did I know that that was
your question?
Nicole: how did you know Tia?
Tia: because it’s right above your head. It was the
first thing that you were thinking of.
Nicole: I watched a movie the other day, a
documentary…..
Tia: uh-huh.
Nicole: and I thought it would be perfect, it's
between the years 1994 and 1999….
Tia: uh-huh, yeah.
Nicole: I'm going to be still alive so I'm quite
concerned.
Tia: uh-huh, well if my memory is correct on his
predictions, he doesn’t make any reference to a
Southern continent.
Nicole: no but still, I don’t wish that upon…..
Tia: anybody.
Nicole: anyone in this world.
Tia: I don’t think he’s going to come, there’s going
to be continuing civil strife but as for the guy in
the blue turban, there is a possibility that he’s
already here and it’s not a blue turban.
Nicole: blue beret?
Tia: hmm, no, he hasn’t worn a blue beret.
Nicole: because there's a fellow that Mark was
telling me…..
Tia: Mark is wrong, he’s never worn a blue beret.
Nicole: right, you know Mark mentioned that there is
a certain Iranian or Iraqian….
Tia: uh-huh.
Nicole: that wears a blue beret?
Tia: hmm, I don’t think he wears a blue beret.
Nicole: oh.
Tia: other colors yes but I don’t think he’s ever
worn a blue, blue beret.
Nicole: well, is there anything that could stop the
destruction other than people that actually press
the button?
Tia: uh-huh, action, one person can make a
difference because with one person you can start a
ball rolling. If you go out onto a mountaintop
right? And you make a snowball in your hands and you
start rolling it downhill it gets bigger and bigger
doesn’t it?
Nicole: yeah.
Tia: and it gets to a point where it’s very big and
will continue moving under its own inertia correct?
Nicole: right.
Tia: and that is what one person can do, they can
start the ball rolling. And how you deal with
political corruption and bickering would be to form
action groups, pry into the government’s affairs,
find out what’s going on, listen, analyze, think
your own thoughts not what they tell you to think
but what you want to think.
Nicole: political heads don't listen to little
people like me.
Tia: yes they do, if there’s enough of you.
Nicole: it’s a matter of getting enough people.
Tia: uh-huh, I’m sure that there’s lots of people
that you could get to help you. There was a
gentleman here last........you’re from the same
place aren’t you?
Nicole: what place is that?
Tia: from the gentleman who that was here last year,
what’s his name?
Russ: Ando.
Tia: uh-huh.
Nicole: oh right, Ando yeah.
Tia: you know him?
Nicole: yep.
Tia: did he tell you about me teasing him?
Nicole: he told me about........
Tia: ohhh. Yes, I teased him, I’ll tease anybody
that is that open and receptive.
Nicole: it is funny. It’s too easy.
Tia: uh-huh, it is easy. Okay, we were covering
Nostradamus’ predictions.
Russ: so if you see one place then you see all over?
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: okay. Damn….
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: oh well.
Tia: yep, that’s the way it goes.
Russ: yeah, I can only hope.
Tia: uh-huh, some places are already in projection A
already and progressing nicely into it although
that’s a bad way to say it. They're progressing.
Russ: so, in another words, you got places that have
got, because of the unbalanced budget….
Tia: of their nation.
Russ: oh, in their nation?
Tia: uh-huh, there’s a lot that are unbalanced.
There’s one country in particular, and I know who’s
been following this a little bit, that is having
strikes and things because they want to balance
their budget in three years.
Russ: who, France?
Tia: uh-huh, isn’t that so?
Nicole: I don’t know too much about France’s budget?
Tia: oh.
Nicole: sorry.
Tia: oh that’s all right.
Nicole: but I do have concern about the country…..
Tia: uh-huh.
Nicole: being that half my family live there.
Tia: yeah and people are striking all over the place
or I believe the strike is over now.
Nicole: yeah I know they’re striking.
Tia: uh-huh.
John: would you say that the macro economic decline
is pretty much planetary?
Tia: yes, because it’s reached a point in saturation
of the markets. For example, let me see.....okay,
you want fresh strawberries right?
John: yeah.
Tia: now, 10 or 15 years ago you couldn’t get them
without paying a lot of money this time of year on
your planet, right when it’s all white and wet down
there.
Russ: yeah right.
John: yeah that’s true.
Tia: now you can go to the supermarket and buy them
whenever you want, where do they come from?
Russ: greenhouses.
Tia: and?
John: other countries.
Tia: thank you.
John: with different growing seasons.
Tia: correct. So therefore what has happened is that
the market has been expanded and it’s reached a
point where you can get whatever you want whenever
you want and it cuts down on the numbers of
suppliers because it costs to bring things in to
your local neighborhood so therefore it bumps up the
price and pushes the smaller guys out of business
which in turn makes the bigger guys have a much more
bigger profit margin so they can push the price up
little bit more.
John: yeah that’s true.
Tia: uh-huh, so you reach a point of saturation and
when you reach that point, people get put out of
work because the price plummets down having climbed
up to a nice respectable number it plummets back
down and the big growers have to lay off their
workforce to be economically viable and you have an
overbalance.
Russ: hmm.
John: so it would be safe to say that we are in a
planetary A stage of deterioration?
Tia: hmm, very early stage, in some places it’s
progressed further and other places haven’t
progressed further. There is a gentleman that was in
the…..hold on let me get my notes out here…..oh yes,
gentleman responsible for banking problems in…..it's
around here somewhere……..ahh yes, banking
problems……..I think his name is Keating?
John: oh yeah.
Nicole: even in Australia.
Tia: uh-huh and what did he do to the banks? He
really goofed them up didn’t he?
Russ: Savings and Loan thing.
John: yeah, the Savings and Loans yeah.
Tia: uh-huh. So, Australia is in the early, early
stages or pre-stages to situation A but the Savings
and Loan scandals when Bush was in office…..
John: right.
Tia: were the startings of your problems…..
John: right.
Tia: you see? With Australia, there is still a
chance to avoid it and to become an isolated,
economically secure area.
Russ: so the way they do that is by becoming
self-sufficient?
Tia: uh-huh and they can do it.
Russ: yeah, what’s going to promote that?
Tia: by watching the bigger countries with larger
populations start to fall to pieces.
Nicole: yeah that’s our biggest problem, we like
America’s big influence on us and we follow them a
lot….
Tia: uh-huh.
Nicole: and I just wish that we'd stay the hell away
from America as….
Tia: uh-huh.
Nicole: far as…..
Tia: economic.
Nicole: yeah, influence.....
Russ: it'd be healthier, that’s for sure.
Nicole: sorry?
Russ: it'd be healthier for you.
Nicole: yeah for sure. Yeah America….
John: well the impact with Canada and Mexico…..
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: NAFTA?
John: is very similar to the situation in the United
States even though there's different social systems.
Tia: well Mexico is a fine example of a country that
has progressed deep into territory A, they’re in the
first stages……..not the first stages, second stages.
Sorry, I do apologize.
Russ: so Tia, we could watch them and get an idea of
what's going to happen here?
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: okay.
Tia: yeah.
Russ: because I haven’t followed them very closely,
I should probably follow it more closely.
Tia: I’m surprised that you’re not following them
because you do….
Russ: America, I know. But I don't understand……
John: they're suppressing a lot of that information
of what’s going on down there.
Russ: oh they are?
Tia: uh-huh.
John: I got told some information by some Latinos
that is.......and they’re not really publicizing it,
they're suppressing that information so it’s tough
to come by from what I found.
Russ: oh I see.
Tia: uh-huh and another place to watch is a very big
country that has broken down into minor countries
and to watch that country is another place to watch.
They are not as far as long as the place south of
the border but they’re just as far down the
road…..or a little bit further down the road than
you guys are.
John: is it North America?
Tia: no.
Russ: no, Soviet Union.
Tia: uh-huh.
John: oh okay.
Russ: now the question is, if the country gets
desperate enough, would there be an aggressive
stance on their part toward us?
Tia: no, they will come to you to look for aid.
Russ: but if we’re going downhill?
Tia: you’ve got more than they’ve got and you can
help them.
Russ: yeah but that will just send us down quicker
right?
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: especially without a balanced budget.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: hmm.
John: snow.
Tia: oh.
Russ: now what about......you were mentioning
layoffs earlier, I was talking to Mark about the
downsizing effect….
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: and how major companies where they had a 20%
profit last year are looking at a 13% profit this
year. The 20% was strictly all based upon the
downsizing they did.
Tia: yes and 13%, what happens when they reach the
point where they are starting to become economically
unviable and they're looking at their 20% and their
13% and they want to get back to it? What happens
is, I refer you to my answer I gave some minutes
ago.
Russ: hmm, so they’re going to downsize again.
Tia: yeah.
Russ: but now the thing is, if they’re putting out
50,000 people out of work off at AT&T or
something?
Tia: uh-huh, yeah….
Russ: then those people don’t buy products which
brings other companies down even farther right?
Tia: uh-huh which again is a step down the road.
Russ: causes more downsizing.
Tia: uh-huh.
Nicole: well…..the actual….
Tia: relax.
Nicole: high employment….
Tia: uh-huh.
Nicole: low-inflation…….
Tia: that’s right.
Nicole: is what it all comes down to.
Tia: uh-huh.
Nicole: employment and inflation has to balance
off.....
Tia: that’s right.
Nicole: and that is what the budget really has to
concentrate on.
Tia: uh-huh. You have to cut down the expenditures
of the government, the size of the government is
totally unnecessary. Even on my home planet we never
had a government that big since we became a
peaceable race.
Russ: hmm, well it’s a more independent kind of
planet that you come from anyway though right?
Tia: uh-huh yeah.
Russ: I mean you don’t have welfare.
Tia: no, we had it and it almost destroyed our
planet.
Russ: oh really?
Tia: uh-huh.
Nicole: do you have currency?
Tia: yeah, on my home planet yes, up here no.
Russ: well what did you guys use for currency on
your home planet?
Tia: oh…..
Russ: hamsters?
(Tia says jokingly) yes, hamsters.
(everyone starts laughing)
Nicole: I'm going to have one of Mark's cigarettes.
Tia: it’s bad for your health you know, it stunts
your growth. I was about to say, you want to be
five-foot two all your life?
Nicole: I’m not five-foot two, I’m five-foot seven.
Tia: hmm, so I’d get a crick in the neck talking to
you.
Russ: I wish you were talking to me.
Nicole: how tall are you, five-foot two?
Tia: yeah five-foot two.
Nicole: I'll get down on my knees then.
(Russ and John start laughing loudly)
(Tia says jokingly) you wait, I’ll come down and
I’ll bite you.
Nicole: I hope we’re still friends.
Tia: we are.
Russ: what a low blow.
Tia: oohh, that was low as well.
Nicole: I'm only joking Tia.
John: oh God, that was a good one.
Nicole: I'm only joking Tia, I mean no harm to
anyone, I’m just a sarcastic person.
Tia: I can be sarcastic too.
Nicole: that’s cool, I can take it all in fun.
Tia: I’ve been told to behave.
Russ: okay so….
John: okay let’s….
Russ: all right, so we’re looking at Mexico as an
example to watch out for.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: now if they......because they have various
forms of currency problems.....the fact that they
use currency is different from.....it’s going to be
the same thing we have right?
Tia: yeah.
Russ: but on a larger scale.
Tia: you see what they did was that their money
started to run into problems so they printed more
money and again that increased the problems, there
was more money in circulation so they printed more
money.
John: yeah and they didn’t have the gold or the….
Tia: resources.
John: resources to back it up.
Tia: yeah, that’s right.
Russ: will they privatize the banks?
Tia: hmm no, I don’t think they will, the government
wants to keep control so that they can collect taxes
for their treasury so that they can carry on with
their social programs and keep paying the police
officers and the army to stop them from branching
out on their own.
John: now wouldn’t Mexico’s deterioration accelerate
both United States and Canada’s economic
deterioration?
Tia: hmm yes and no. In the areas in the southern
part of your country, yes it will because that is
where most of the trading goes on between Mexico and
your country. With Canada, it’s the northern part of
your country that does the bulk of the trading there
so that wouldn’t be as affected as much. However, as
people move from areas that have been affected by
the economic problems in Mexico migrate to the
north, they bring the problem with them. That there
is overpopulation of those areas and it is necessary
to find work for them and housing and so on and
again that creates a stress on the population.
Nicole: and also their money, most of the Mexicans
send it home don’t they?
Tia: uh-huh, so you….
Nicole: so that’s money going out of the country.
Tia: taking it out of the economy, you’re very quick
to pick up on that.
Nicole: I’m an accountant back in Australia.
Tia: oh, you are?
Nicole: yeah.
Tia: hmm, yes, I’m what you might say an
analyst.
Nicole: I like analyism too.
Tia: yeah, it’s a lot of fun. Some of things I
analyze I can’t say about.
Russ: so if this is going to affect our situation up
here….
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: as what happens in Mexico…
(Tia speaks only to Nicole who is giggling) no,
they’re not those sort of things.
Nicole: I wasn’t thinking anything.
Russ: how is our situation.......how do we work
around that?
Nicole: sorry.
Tia: how do we work around it?
Russ: in other words, do we as a government or a
country prohibit the crossing of the border or
granting of visas or something?
Tia: you cut down on it. To make sure your country
is stable, what do you have to do? And I’m going to
make a quote here from a gentleman by the name of De Gaulle. I
couldn’t say his first name, I couldn’t get my mouth
to pronounce it and I couldn’t get Mark’s to make
the right shape as well. De Gaulle he’s….
Nicole: De Gaulle the French?
Tia: yes, what did he say?
Nicole: I don’t know.
Tia: France for the French.
Nicole: yeah, yeah.
Tia: he was referring to America trying trying give
them Trident missiles.
Nicole: we had a prime minister……sorry, I’m so used
to president……we had a prime minister in Australia
and his name was Bob
Hawke?
Tia: uh-huh. Yep, I’m fully aware of Bob Hawke.
Nicole: he brought so many Asians or he believed in
immigration big-time......
Tia: uh-huh.
Nicole: and I know what you mean, French for France
or whatever......
Tia: uh-huh.
Nicole: Australia for Australia, America for
America, Mexico for Mexico.
Tia: that’s right.
Nicole: Mexico have got no idea their government,
they have a rich, they have a poor.
Tia: I’m going to quote a……I think he was the second
or third American president....and he was the
second.....and his statement was, "a little
revolution from time to time is a good thing". Who
was that Russ?
Russ: that would be Jefferson.
Tia: uh-huh. I was about to say if you don’t get it
right I'll move on to the next person. Okay, now
we'll come back to this but first of all we need to
get Skip on the blower.
John: okay, I’ll give him a call right now.
Russ: before we get him on the phone I can ask you a
question.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: what we're basically looking at right now is
Mark, me and Johnny are planning for our retirement
years in about two of them right?
Tia: uh-huh.
John: yeah, that’s a good way to put it.
Russ: so if you look at this card here, can you open
your eyes.
Tia: move it a little closer. The three of…
Russ: wands.
Tia: what’s that meant to mean?
Russ: looking over the situation at hand.
Tia: ahh, no, it doesn’t work anymore. No it’s gone,
can’t get a look. Kiri can though, she’ll open
Mark’s eyes and look at people.
Russ: that’s basically where we're at right now?
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: we are observing around us but the time of
action is also at hand.
Tia: yeah.
(John gets Skip on the phone)
John: hello, is Skip in please? This is John in
South Lake Tahoe. Hey Skip, how’s things? All right,
we’ve got Hades Base online here.
Tia: uh-huh.
John: oh yeah, well with the weather.........I’m
going to a put you on the speakerphone. Okay, the
speaker’s on.
Tia: okay it’s on?
Skip: okay?
Tia: okay, how you doing?
Skip: fine, who am I talking to?
Tia: there’s only one person with pointed ears you’d
talk to isn’t there?
Skip: how are you tonight?
Tia: I’m doing fine.
Skip: are you sure?
Tia: absolutely sure, I’m boisterous, I’m full of
energy. Don’t know about Mark though.
Skip: I got a question.
Tia: huh?
Skip: I got a question this evening.
Tia: okay.
Skip: I have a problem with being on the very verge
emotionally of panic.
Tia: uh-huh, but you haven’t panicked yet correct?
Skip: no I haven’t, I’m in control of it.
Tia: now how have you been controlling it?
Skip: by becoming interested in something completely
different than my emotions.
Tia: hmmm.
Skip: in other words working, concentrating on a
problem, whatever it is but still hanging there
right behind everything I’m doing.
Tia: hmm, I’ve got to think here for a second, I’m
going to confer briefly. The thing is, what is
causing the panic? Is it a particular thing that you
think of?
Skip: nothing that I know of. I’m kind of at a loss
to understand what’s happened to me.
Tia: uh-huh. Hmm, is it because……there is a
possibility that you’re looking at the future and
seeing things that you’re planning for not coming as
quickly as you want, is that a possibility?
Skip: that could be.
Tia: uh-huh.
Skip: because there's more to life than what I’m
doing.
Tia: hmm, I think we've just hit it on the head
there.
Skip: yeah.
Tia: okay, what you’ve got to do is to plan and
to....what’s the word? Maintain an even keel but
plan for the next stage of what you want to do and I
assume that involves making money with your business
correct?
Skip: yes.
Tia: okay, so what you’ve got to do is you continue
working so that you've got an income but you start
to make that happen as well.
Skip: okay, all right, okay. In other words get off
my duff and get going here?
Tia: uh-huh and I assure you that the feeling of
panic will disappear once you start putting your
plan into action. But first of all what you have to
do is to formulate a plan of where you want to be in
six months, where you want to be in a year, where
you want to be in two years and five years and so
on, okay? And you have to set goals. The first goal
shouldn’t be too big in six months but the one in a
year has to be at least twice the size of the one in
six months. So by doing that, it’s keeping your mind
totally occupied and you won't suffer from this
feeling of panic or fear.
Skip: okay.
Tia: uh-huh.
Skip: okay.
Tia: and what we will do is, not next week, the week
after, we’re having a party.
Skip: we are?
Tia: yes, we’re having a party.
Skip: we are?
Tia: uh-huh.
Skip: next week?
Tia: no not next week, the week after which would be
what day? Anybody got a calendar handy?
John: yeah I do, I got one right over here.
Skip: 28.
Russ: 28?
Russ: 30th.
Tia: 30th. They’re saying the 30th.
Skip: the 30th, okay?
Tia: yeah, okay we’ll have a party…
Skip: all right.
Tia: we’ll invite everybody.
Skip: okay.
Tia: okay?
Skip: okay, I’ll bring my lady too.
Tia: uh-huh of course.
Skip: right, okay thank you.
Tia: of course and what would you like for that
party? A barbecue or…
Skip: I think it's going to be too snowy for a
barbecue.
Tia: oh that’s right yeah, it’s winter isn't it down
there?
(Skip starts laughing)
Tia: well I can’t help it, I live in a
climate-controlled area.
Skip: well we got snow down here.
Tia: hmm yes, it was meant to…….
Skip: not here where I’m at but where Mark's at we
got snow there.
Tia: yes, that’s what Johnny was saying just now
about the snow.
Skip: yes, that’s why I’m down here in the Carson
Valley.
Tia: uh-huh, very smart move. I don’t mind playing
in the snow…..
Skip: hey darling, thank you very much.
Russ: hey Skip, need the snowblower back?
Skip: no, I don’t have snow down here.
Russ: oh okay.
Skip: you’re okay up there.
Tia: okay.
Skip: all right?
Tia: okay, we’re glad that we got everything taken
care of and I look forward to talking to you soon.
Skip: yes indeed, me too. Hey you take care of the
kids, love you dearly.
Tia: okay I will and give everybody a big hug down
there and mess up Velvet's hair for me.
Skip: I sure will.
Tia: okay?
Skip: all right.
Tia: okay bye.
Russ: bye Skip.
Skip: so long people, have a good one.
John: bye.
Russ: you too bud.
Nicole: bye. He only stays on for…….
Tia: uh-huh, it’s a long-distance call.
Russ: right, yeah.
Tia: has it gone dead?
Russ: no, I turned it off.
Tia: oh you did? How did you do that?
Russ: I just pushed speaker.
Tia: oh, it’s dead. Hmm, okay Karra and myself
conferred and when we got to the fact that he was
having difficulty with where he was going in life,
it was sort of like she sat up and went, "bingo,
he’s got a fear of age".
Russ: well he said he's got a lady now?
Tia: yeah.
Russ: I haven’t even met her yet. Who is she?
Tia: I’ve met her a few times, I think her name's
Jody?
(it is actually Judy)
Russ: younger?
Tia: yeah, younger.
Russ: oh that will be good for him then.
Tia: uh-huh yeah, I’ve met her a couple of times,
she’s fun.
Russ: let's see, that’s two weeks…
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: we can get them up for a channeling session
then.
Tia: well we're talking to Carrie next week aren’t
we?
Russ: oh yeah right.
Nicole: can’t we talk to Carrie today?
Tia: no, we have to set it up in advance.
Nicole: oh really?
Russ: because it’s two hours later and it’s 11
o’clock back there right now.
Tia: yes, she is probably asleep.
Nicole: no I mean Kiri as in up there?
Russ: oh no, no, this is Carrie.
Tia: uh-huh.
Nicole: oh, a human being.
Russ: no, yeah Kiri......
John: yeah.
Russ: Kiri is up there. I know, it gets confusing
for most everybody except for me and Mark.
Nicole: yeah. Because Kiri....
Tia: Carrie and Kiri.
John: and you spell that CARRIE.
Nicole: and the Kiri we're talking about is spelled
KARI.
Russ: KI…
John: KIRI.
Nicole: sorry?
Russ: KIRI.
Nicole: oh Kiri.
Tia: I don’t read English.
Nicole: don’t you?
Tia: no.
Nicole: well how can you be so knowledgeable about….
Tia: I listen.
Nicole: data and world events?
Tia: because I listen, I have it translated on my
computer terminal.
Nicole: but you’ve got to read that on your computer
terminal.....oh, you have another language.
Tia: yeah, I have another language.
Nicole: oh okay, sorry.
Tia: yeah. Okay, we're going to put the next person
on.
Russ: okay.
Nicole: see you later.
Tia: yeah, I’ll be back.
Russ: bye love.
Tia: I'm just trying to decide who I should put on
next. I’ve got his leg going again.
(Tia says goodbye in Durondedunn)
Tia: well, I'll see you guys later.
John: all right, see you later.
Russ: bye love.
Nicole: bye.
(Omal
begins his time channeling)
Russ: greetings Omal.
Omal: greetings Russ, greetings Nicole, I do believe
we have already met.
Nicole: yeah.
Omal: yes.
Nicole: my first time I didn’t really have a good
understanding.
Omal: oh that is all right. So we were teasing
Johnny over there, greetings Johnny…
John: greeting.
Omal: about his family forming an outlaw gang being
the Hole In the Wall Gang.
John: yes you were.
Omal: so that is why there was a lot of laughing and
smiling going on prior to your coming downstairs.
Nicole: right.
Omal: okay….
Nicole: first of all can I just ask…..
Omal: uh-huh.
Nicole: what are you knowledgeable about?
Omal: ask me a question on anything.
Nicole: really?
Omal: yes.
Nicole: as far as someone’s health is concerned,
would you or Kiri be the best to speak to?
Omal: Karra would be.
Nicole: Karra.
Omal: I have limited knowledge on healing however I
can confer with Karra if it is of utmost importance.
Nicole: it is.
Omal: okay.
Nicole: would I be able to speak to her tonight?
Omal: yes, she is present, she is currently sitting
clipping her fingernails.
Nicole: okay.
Omal: somebody complained that they were too long
apparently.
Nicole: okay, well I might leave it til she comes
on.
Omal: okay. Questions.
Russ: hmm okay, Tia was talking to us about Mexico
and the problems they’re having down there and with
those problems that they’re having, how is our
government do you feel going to respond to that?
Omal: give them financial aid and support, try to
subsidize their operations of industry. In turn,
creating a false economy and when a false economy
runs out what happens? Things go kaput.
Russ: right.
Omal: and I will make a quote, "if you want to be
happy for a day kill a pig".......no, "if you want
to be fed for a day kill a chicken. If you want to
be fed for a week kill a pig. If you want to be fed
for life learn to fish". In other words, what they
need to do is learn to support themselves, not
surviving on handouts.
Russ: yeah but they’re sort of used to it by now. I
mean it’s just like welfare people up here….
Omal: correct.
Russ: they’re used to it and I think the point's
past where they could get to self-support.
Nicole: maybe they just don’t haven’t got the
initiative because the government has taken so much
away from them?
Omal: that is very likely. After all, Mexico does
have a very high tax rate, it also has some very lax
laws which contributes to corruption.
Russ: hmm, so essentially what we’re looking at is
both Mexico and ourselves doing without government.
Omal: you need a group of elected officials to
represent you on the world stage….
Russ: uh-huh.
Omal: so therefore a government is necessary but a
large government like Mexico has, like your country,
Canada, France, most of the world as a matter of
fact, having a large governmental body and a large
bureaucracy under that governmental body is a drain
on the people. How many percent of your population
works for the government in one capacity or another?
Russ: hmm, I don’t have any numbers.
John: about a quarter or 20% or so?
Omal: I think it is a little less, I think it is
about 18%.
John: 18%?
Omal: now if you travel backwards in time 200 years
to when your country was just a young nation, do you
know what percentage of the population at that time
worked for the government?
Russ: hmm?
Omal: less than 1%, much less.
John: yeah that’s what I would guess, yeah.
Russ: wow.
Omal: and your country did extremely well without
such a large governmental body. Admittedly it was a
smaller population but in proportion there were far
fewer people working for the government.
Russ: is this just because of the lack of
educational levels that were available at the time?
Omal: actually the educational levels, the standards
were quite high for those people that could get
education. However, being a pioneer society at that
time, it was hard for people to get education and
those that had were in high demand. Education was
certainly very prevalent. If you just walk down the
street you will see old schools. If you go down to
the valley to the east of you you’ll see old
schools, single room schools.
Russ: uh-huh.
Omal: and the educational levels were much higher.
Russ: I see.
Omal: that is part of the problem of a bureaucracy
is that education no longer plays an important part.
What is the average reading level of a child that
leaves school today compared to one that left let’s
say 20 years ago?
John: sixth or seventh grade.
Russ: no I’d say higher, I’d say more like around
10th, 11th.
Nicole: yeah, same in our country.
Omal: but it is less than it was when people 20
years ago were leaving school….
Russ: right.
Omal: much less. The average college student has a
very poor education and is very poorly prepared in
your country for going to college, especially
children from the large inner cities where the
actual level of reading skill is lower.
Russ: well has the emphasis on education changed
then?
Omal: yes.
Russ: to what?
Omal: to a liberal form of education, you do not
push the child because you do not wish the child to
feel bad, you have to build up the child’s esteem of
itself. Which in a certain extent, yes that is a
good idea however if you take it too far, then it
fails and fails dramatically.
Russ: hmm, okay. Now back then though, I mean you
had a choice between going to school or working on
your father’s farm…
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: or whatever business he was doing. You learned
your father’s business because someday you would be
taking that over.
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: you didn’t have the proportion of people who
went to school. I mean here you have mandatory
school for everyone….
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: back then it was optional.
Omal: yes and the standard of education was much
higher.
Russ: right.
Omal: most people, especially the pioneers, were
very literate. It is common for a country to lose
its productive proportion because they see their own
country becoming unproductive and they want to
continue being productive so they move somewhere
else were they can. Productive people tend to be
intelligent, intelligent people tend to be literate.
Russ: I see. Well back then parents would teach
their children….
Omal: at home.
Russ: at home whereas now people just kick their
kids off to school and trust the school to do all
the work for them.
Omal: and they have……
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(Omal returns to the subject
at hand)
John: but she works in one of the top school
systems in the world.
Omal: and that is my answer right there, what
Johnny just said is very true, teachers are paid
quite well however some of the teachers are very
poor in education. It became a popular pursuit to
become a teacher, the market was flooded with
teachers and in turn the demand for teachers was
decreased, the pay scale dropped, all the good
ones dropped out, what are you left with?
Russ: hmm, you're left with people who aren’t
teaching our children the way they should be.
Omal: there are always the exceptions to the
rules.
Russ: so now more than ever, self-education should
be the….
Omal: should be….
Russ: the goal of everyone.
Omal: correct. There is a gentleman that I am
aware of through various sources who was taught at
home. The gentleman is about 80, he is a computer
you might say wizz kid, he is very literate. His
education has been finished off in a public school
whereas he is looked upon as being very, very
smart.
Russ: hmm.
Omal: but he is no smarter than anybody else, it’s
just that he has been educated.
John: well isn’t there a dramatic increase in
people educating their children at home?
Omal: I believe so yes.
John: yes, I do believe that’s true. Because we do
have the technology nowadays where you can do it
but you’ve got to be a good, conscientious parent
to do that.
Omal: and to push them to do their work. It has
been a long time since I have been a parent.
Russ: uh-huh, okay. So what do we get from all of
this then?
Omal: you get from all this that education is very
important. The people that are out there are not
very literate, they do not have a very strong
linguistic ability of even their own language.
Russ: uh-huh, okay.
Omal: you could think of yourselves as being very
lucky to be well-educated. I’m not fully versed on
the young lady’s area of education from her area
but I assume that it is of a high standard as she
is quite eloquent when she has spoken.
Nicole: thank you Omal.
Omal: you’re welcome.
Nicole: that’s a nice complement.
Omal: okay, last questions please.
Nicole: yeah, can I ask one?
Omal: certainly.
Nicole: are you familiar with Australia’s budget
at all?
Omal: no, I am not familiar with it but I can ask
one of my analysts who is impersonating a....one
of those things that go up and down.
Russ: pogo stick.
Omal: yes.
Nicole: oh right, okay so I can you the question?
Omal: okay, ask me the question, there may be a
delay.
Nicole: okay. In Australia our unemployed, we get
Social Security, unemployment benefits and we get
that on a fortnightly basis and we can be on that
for as long as we want until we find a job whereas
America is only on it 26 weeks. There’s people in
Australia that I know one in particular who’s been
on it 15 years. Now they’re thinking what they’ve
done, every employer it is compulsory for the
employer to give their employee a super
enumeration which is 3% out of their wages into a
super fund. So when they retire, then they’ve got
that money to live on? Now that is all has come
about so that they can cut out Social Security and
unemployment benefits. Now Australia gives a lot
of money, that’s one of their highest revenue
brackets…….
Omal: uh-huh.
Nicole: not revenue, expense brackets so the
government is going to be a lot better off but can
you see what’s going to happen to the people
that….
Omal: they are going to become very unhappy the
people that are on Social Security because they
will have it taken away so therefore those people
would be forced to do some work. Instead of
expecting a handout from their government, they
will have to go out and work or they will starve.
Nicole: but the jobs aren’t there.
Omal: they are there if they are prepared to look.
I am sure that people are capable of being
entrepre....…..being capable of finding other ways
of making money. People do not like to do jobs
that they perceive as below themselves. For
example, you have……no you don’t have a problem
with litter in your country do you?
Nicole: sorry?
Omal: do you have a problem with litter in your
country?
Nicole: no, not really….
Omal: what about the roads…..
Nicole: we have organizations that clean up the
beach about three times a year.
Omal: why not have a group of individuals that are
paid to do that? Or what about your roads in the
interior of your country, they’re very poorly
paved.
Nicole: why? Because…..well for instance cleaning
up the beaches, we have organizations like
Surfrider foundation…
Omal: uh-huh.
Nicole: that do that. They get together like for
instance the Gold Coast?
Omal: uh-huh.
Nicole: they’ve got one branch on the Gold Coast
and all their members get together and clean up
the beaches and they do it for nothing for the
love of their beaches.
Omal: of course.
Nicole: but what I’m concerned about is we don’t
have a problem of…..how would I say it? Of people
living on the street?
Omal: uh-huh.
Nicole: I mean we do, I mean it’s not a problem,
we do have people like that but not like America?
Like it’s very few and far between that you see a
person that is down and out living on a park bench
and that’s how I feel that are people on
unemployment benefits are going to turn out.
Omal: hmm, it is a matter of being able to support
them or not. If a government is prosperous and the
nation is prosperous then yes they can support
them however, if a government or a country goes
into stagnation, then they can no longer support
them. So, concerning the individuals that are not
willing to achieve anything, it is their
experience. If they wish to live the way that they
live, then that is their choice but what they
learn from that is up to them. If they can turn
around and be productive individuals, even if
they’re being paid under the table, then that is
good for them. Maybe they can go on and open up
their own business, maybe open up a surf shop?
Nicole: but the government's not helping by
bringing immigrants into the country.
Omal: I refer you to a statement that was made a
little while ago, French for……now you have me
doing it.
Russ: France for French.
Omal: correct.
Nicole: right.
Omal: Australia for the Australians. Maybe you’re
the right person with your eloquent speech to
start things happening. Maybe just by talking to
your friends it will start to happen. Maybe you
can get a……a roots movement going? Grassroots
movement going so that you can get individuals
together to pester their representatives and their
senators to do some action?
Nicole: I found that the governments are stubborn,
they don’t listen to anyone else except themselves
and they don’t think of the consequences of the
future ahead. They look at it and they think right
yeah, that’s an expense for our government yet
they don’t think of you know?
Omal: what is the legal age in your country to
become a member of your governmental body as a
representative or senator?
Nicole: we don’t have senators.
Omal: oh, you have…..
Nicole: we have, oh what do you call them? Prime
Minister’s…
Omal: oh you have a British type system.
Nicole: yeah.
Omal: that would be members of Parliament?
Nicole: yes.
Omal: how old you have to be……?
Nicole: ministers.
Omal: how old do you have to be one?
Nicole: well I’m not too sure of that but to have
any say in government you've got to be 18 years
old.
Omal: well, there is your answer, grab it by the
horns and hop on for the ride of your life. It
will never be dull but remember, to your own self
be true.
Russ: hmm.
Nicole: okay.
Omal: you want to make things happen, take the
bull by the horns, do it. You are eloquent enough,
you are educated enough, you have the ability with
your voice control to do so. Take it by the horns.
Nicole: what, like communicating? Because I’m
better at communicating through writing.
Omal: whatever way do it, a newspaper.
Nicole: because I get all tongue-tied sometimes.
Omal: you will overcome that, it comes with
maturity on being lacking in tongue-tied. Even
myself, I get tongue-tied from time to time. I am
sure that Russ gets tongue-tied from time to
time……
Russ: uh-huh.
Omal: but the more that you practice, the more you
communicate, the less it becomes. So what I’m
saying is become a member of your country’s
government. Get involved, make things happen,
become a member of Parliament. Who knows, you
could be the first Prime Minister of your country
of the female orientation. Wouldn’t that be cap in
your feather?
Nicole: yeah......you mean a feather in your cap.
Omal: it is your language not mine.
(Nicole chuckles)
Nicole: okay.
Omal: it’s one of many that I speak. Okay, I must
depart.
Russ: farewell Omal.
Omal: live long and prosper, I believe you are
into that Internet entertainment mode.
Russ: yes we are.
John: yes we are, see you later bud.
Omal: see you later Johnny. See you later Nicole?
Nicole: bye Omal.
Omal: see you later Russ.
Russ: bye Omal.
Omal: one to beam up.
(Tia gets us over to Karra)
Russ: hi Tia.
(Tia says hi in Durondedunn)
Tia: okay next person, we got to hustle.
Russ: okay love.
(Karra takes over from the
Durondedunn pogo stick)
Karra: yes, she was up and down like a pogo stick
wasn’t she?
Russ: maybe it was just her excitement to....oh
who knows with Tia, probably just having a good
time.
Karra: yes, I think she was having a good time.
Russ: hi Karra.
Karra: greetings.
Russ: this is Nicole.
Karra: greetings Nicole.
Nicole: hi.
John: hi Karra, how’s things?
Karra: hello Johnny, I am functioning fine and
you?
John: quite well.
Karra: hmm, I’m glad to see that you’re cutting
down on your nicotine intake.
John: trying to.
Karra: uh-huh.
John: working at it.
Karra: and how about your alcohol intake?
John: oh, I've cut down on that dramatically.
Karra: that’s good, that’s good. You’re starting
to look a little bit more colorful in your cheeks.
John: yeah I feel better.
Karra: uh-huh. Okay, let us get down to business.
Russ: okay, Nicole’s got a question for you.
Nicole: yeah, I'm dying to speak to you, are you
aware of my sister, my younger sister?
Karra: younger sister, no I do not have any
knowledge on her.
Nicole: all right, my younger sister fell from a
fifth story unit…..
Karra: ahh yes and presumably she has broken a
part of her anatomy.
Nicole: yeah, she’s broke a fair bit actually but
she’s okay now. Her second and third vertebrae….
Karra: uh-huh.
Nicole: and forth are wired together?
Karra: uh-huh, would that be the lower vertebrae
in the C area?
Nicole: yeah.
Karra: okay.
Nicole: that’s the one. But…..
Karra: hmm, she has pain when she lies down I see.
Nicole: no, not so much lying down, holding her
head straight like when her head, when she puts a
towel on her head she finds it really hard to keep
her head upright?
Karra: it sounds to me that she needs to work on
strengthening her neck muscles. I believe they
have in your part of the world if Tia would sit
down and stop bouncing around and talk straight,
they have a very good medical system. I suggest
strongly that she asks about strengthening her
neck muscles and her back muscles. You okay there?
You seem to be in a little bit of discomfiture.
Nicole: me, Nicole?
Karra: uh-huh.
Nicole: yeah I am.
Karra: what is hurting on you?
Nicole: why?
Karra: no, what?
Nicole: what is hurting on me or her?
Karra: no on you.
Nicole: on me?
Karra: yes, you’re having a little bit of
discomfort sitting there.
Nicole: oh I have a sore left shoulder blade.
Karra: shall we Russ?
Russ: talk to Kiri.
Karra: Kiri is saying no, she’s not wanting to
play at the moment. Okay, however Russ help you.
What Russ will do is he will give you a shoulder
rub just on that point and that will loosen up the
muscles and he will have my assistance and I will
point him in the right direction. Is that
acceptable with you?
Nicole: yeah that’s fine, I just really want to…..
Karra: ask about your sister.
Nicole: yeah.
Karra: okay now back to your sister, what she
needs definitely to do is first of all is not put
towels on her head, that's a simple solution. Tell
you what, light your lighter. Can you make it……?
Nicole: light Mark’s lighter?
Karra: uh-huh.
(we hear Nicole light up Mark's lighter)
Karra: okay put your finger in the flame until I
tell you to stop.
Nicole: which part?
(Nicole starts laughing)
Karra: the tip of your finger.
Nicole: which part of the flame?
Karra: the top.
Nicole: I knew you’d say that.
Karra: okay, why didn’t you do it?
Nicole: because it hurts.
Karra: that is…..
Nicole: I mean it’s too hot.
Karra: uh-huh, that is the answer to your sister’s
problem with the towel, don’t do it because it
hurts. But on a more serious note…..I’m trying to
make you laugh and…..
Nicole: yeah I know, I find it very hard to laugh
because I was there when she…..
Karra: yeah, when it happened.
Nicole: when it happened.
Karra: yeah.
Nicole: yeah.
Karra: but she’s fine now, her leg is fine, she’s
fine apart from she has difficulty with her neck.
What she needs to do is strengthen those muscles.
Is there much scar tissue there?
Nicole: I mean where they cut her open and
operated on her?
Karra: uh-huh. Have you seen the x-rays of the
bones with the wire and everything?
Nicole: no I haven’t.
Karra: hmm, I’d like a description on that, that
would help me tremendously. Okay what she needs to
do is she needs to go and see a doctor and get
some exercises to strengthen her neck muscles.
They may have her do a little bit of weight
training for keeping her neck straight. What she
could also possibly do is wear a collar that is
stiff, a stiff collar. But that’s only a temporary
measure or she can do that when she’s walking
around the house with the towel on her head.
John: a neck brace is what you referring to?
Karra: yes.
John: yes.
Nicole: she’s worn that before a neck brace and a
body brace….
Karra: uh-huh.
Nicole: she couldn’t wait to get it off.
Karra: yes it is very uncomfortable.
Nicole: yeah.
Karra: but it is something that once she starts to
get the strength back in her neck it will get
better quicker. So what she needs to do is see one
of your doctors to get a regime of……a
physiotherapist would be the best bet......would
be to get some exercises to strengthen her neck.
But yes, that is exactly what she should do, is
see a physiotherapist about strengthening her neck
muscles.
Russ: Nicole, has she had an MRI done on her?
Nicole: what’s that?
Russ: magnetic resonance…
Karra: imaging.
Russ: imaging.
Nicole: I don’t think so.
Russ: it’s where they put her in a big tube-like
thing and they take a magnetic resonance and get a
three-dimensional portrait of what her….
John: it’s very expensive but it might…..
Nicole: does Australia have that?
Russ: oh yeah.
Nicole: hmm, another thing…..
Karra: uh-huh.
Nicole: this is a little bit embarrassing but I
have a lot of hang-ups……
Karra: yep, okay.
Nicole: about the accident.
Karra: uh-huh.
Nicole: I had nightmares for a couple years.
Karra: that is perfectly normal.
Nicole: and I mean it’s not as bad as when it
first happened……
Karra: I still have nightmares that….
Nicole: but I still have really, really pains in
my, in my......
Karra: yeah, when you think about it.
Nicole: in my heart when I think about it.
Karra: uh-huh, don’t worry about it, that’s
perfectly normal and natural. I still have
nightmares about an incident that happened in my
thirties. I was a field medic attached to a
platoon defending a colony and my husband at the
time got himself killed and I took a blast with a
laser right through the arm. I still have stress
fractures there and I still have nightmares about
it from time to time. So it’s nothing to be afraid
of, it’s nothing to worry about. If you had no
feelings about it or no emotions about it at all
then I would worry but because you have feelings
of guilt and remorse, that is perfectly
acceptable, that is perfectly normal. As I said,
if you didn’t have any of those feelings, then I
might worry a little bit.
Nicole: uh-huh.
Karra: so it is nothing to be afraid of and don’t
crucify yourself about it, it’s in the past but
she will always be your sister.
Nicole: yeah, I love her dearly.
Karra: uh-huh.
Nicole: I mean I told her now on the phone that I
do love her very much.
Karra: uh-huh, my experience in dealing with
earthlings is that you can be a very loving group
and those that you love dearest you hurt the most.
Nicole: yeah that’s true.
Karra: so don’t feel guilty about that, just learn
from it.
Nicole: hmm.
Karra: okay?
Nicole: okay, thank you.
Karra: you’re welcome. Now I’ve got to have a
little chat with Tia when she gets off the
computer.....gets off of switchover. Okay, see you
guys later.
Nicole: bye.
John: all right, bye Karra thanks.
(Tia returns as ring mistress of the session)
Tia: okay, let me put on the last person, the
exhibitionist, the one that wants a cup of tea,
the one that wants to take a car for doughnuts?
Russ: doughnuts?
John: doughnuts?
Tia: we can't have that.
Russ: no, I’m afraid not. The only closest
doughnut shop open is at the "Y".
Tia: I don’t think it’s the edible type that she’s
on about.
Russ: oh.
John: I had a feeling….
Russ: donuts around the parking lot.
John: parking lots, yeah, uh-huh, uh-huh.
(Tia says goodbye in Durondedunn)
Nicole: oh really.
John: where's Mark's keys?
Russ: bye Tia
(Kiri begins in her usual
exuberant self)
Kiri: yo, I’m here.
Russ: I know you are. Kiri this is Nicole.
Kiri: thank you.
Russ: this is El Crazy One.
Kiri: yo.
Nicole: what do you know?
(Russ and John start laughing)
Kiri: I’m Kiri. I’m Kiri, I’m a coercer, I’m also
an engineer. What else do I do? I like to party.
Nicole: oh do you?
Kiri: yeah.
Nicole: oh cool because none of these guys will
party with me.
Kiri: if we get you up here we'll get you
partying. We have a great little bar, it’s called
the corner bar, it is the hots. It is the best
place to be. They’ve got great wine, they've got
great beer, got some great flowers you can chow
down on too.
Nicole: great.....I’m sorry?
Kiri: flowers.
Russ: non-addictive….
John: they eat psychedelic flowers.
Kiri: uh-huh.
Nicole: ahh right.
Kiri: uh-huh, they’re cool, they’re the best.
Nicole: oh man.
Kiri: uh-huh.
John: now, besides you being six-foot one and
mischievous at best, you’re a troublemaker.
Kiri: I am?
John: yeah.
Kiri: come here.
John: I mean what’s your hair like?
Kiri: come here.
(Russ and John starts laughing)
John: no way, no way.
Kiri: well at the moment I have it cut into a
short, military bob.
John: okay.
Russ: congratulations by the way darling.
Kiri: one for me.
Russ: you’re on the team.
Kiri: yes, I’m competing, I’m racing.
John: oh, on the ski team?
Kiri: uh-huh.
John: you made it?
Russ: she made it.
John: good deal.
Russ: fifth-place but she's made it.
Kiri: yeah, I’ll be in first place. Everybody’s
very happy and contented and awesome and I’m ready
to race, I have my ski suit made, I design clothes
too.
Russ: Karra and I will be watching it from
the.....
Nicole: oh do you?
Kiri: uh-huh, I design all sorts of things. Ski
suits, I get some real great designs for ski
suits.
Nicole: oh cool.
Russ: she designed mine.
Kiri: I also design swimwear.
Nicole: really? Do you want to design me a new
swimsuit?
Kiri: yeah sure, what sort of swimsuit?
Nicole: something that America or Australia hasn’t
got, a two-piece?
Russ: she showed those designs you made for
Bethany?
Nicole: a two-piece?
Kiri: two-piece bikini, okay. Something really
flashy. How much skin do you want to show?
Nicole: parts of the….
Kiri: how much do you want to show? A lot of skin,
a little skin….
Nicole: yeah well I usually show a lot of skin
except for the parts that…...
Kiri: that shouldn’t be.
Nicole: mustn't show, yeah.
Kiri: okay. What are your favorite colors? Blue
and…..
Nicole: yes.
(chuckling breaks out among the participants)
Kiri: and……you like green as well.
Nicole: I like a pale green yeah.
Kiri: yeah, pale green.
Nicole: I like mauve as well.
Kiri: what about a sandy brown? Okay, tell you
what, next week, I want paper, crayons……..paper,
crayons of assorted colors preferably….
Russ: I have some colored pens.
Kiri: that will work.
Russ: okay.
Kiri: and somebody to draw a figure for me to draw
a bikini on.
Russ: I'll have one ready for you.
Kiri: okay.
Nicole: cool.
Kiri: in fact make several figures so that I can
do various designs.
Russ: do you need measurements or anything?
Kiri: no, no because it can be adjusted once I
give the descriptions. Now what sort of lining do
you like? Do you like a nice, fine lining or do
you like a……padded?
Nicole: I like a good quality.
Kiri: a good, padded….
Nicole: a very good quality.
Kiri: uh-huh.
Nicole: not like anything flimsy or see-through.
Kiri: no see-through kind of takes away the
imagination part.
Nicole: yeah. Well okay, that’s good.
Kiri: okay, how about a shimmering blue?
Nicole: yeah, that'd be nice.
Kiri: uh-huh, something that can look like light
blue but when you turn into full light it looks
like a darker blue? Oh, I’ve got a design
developing right now. How about one that comes
like a halter top right? That comes down with a
stripe, one-piece that comes down and kind of
wraps around?
Nicole: I’ll leave it up to you.
Kiri: uh-huh.
Nicole: for my pair of bikinis.
Kiri: okay I can…
Nicole: you can do both if you want.
Kiri: yeah I’ll do both actually. In fact I can do
about four or five different types that I’ve got
planned...that's a hot one.
Nicole: can you picture, like people from your
planet, can you picture things in our mind?
Kiri: sometimes.
Nicole: because there’s this ski jacket that I
like, it's.....
Kiri: that’s a nice one, funny place to put a
black widow though.
Russ: Spyder.
Nicole: oh right, on the back?
Kiri: uh-huh.
Nicole: oh it's just their design.
Kiri: yeah, that's their logo I take it. Hey, you
could start your own swimwear line.
Nicole: yeah, but you have to design it and I’ll
come up with the capital and the marketing.
Kiri: okay, I design them, you market them….
Russ: we’ll fax them.
(we all start to chuckle down here)
Kiri: yeah.
Nicole: because you know what, that could be a
real……..because where I come from up the Gold
Coast….
Kiri: uh-huh.
Nicole: that could be a big moneymaker.
Kiri: oh yeah.
Russ: yeah, you get summer almost all the year.
Nicole: yeah.
Kiri: how many cases of wine should each one go
for?
Nicole: sorry?
Russ: Australian wine?
John: she was asking how many cases of wine should
each suit sell for.
Nicole: oh you’re saying, oh okay.
John: yeah.
Kiri: yeah I barter.
John: they barter.
John: yeah.
Russ: because she can’t send it to you so…..
Nicole: you’d have to come to my country.
Kiri: hey, I would fit right in being six one
and….
Nicole: oh yeah.
Kiri: blondish but I can get my hair to change
colors as quickly as you can change color of your
fingernails. I just pop a tablet and my hair
changes color in about three hours.
Nicole: can I ask you something?
Kiri: uh-huh.
Nicole: can you guys bring something from your
planet down through Mark to here?
Kiri: Mark doesn’t have the manifestation ability
to bring something through.
Nicole: oh right.
Kiri: the only things that he normally brings back
with him are cuts, nicks and scratches.
Nicole: oh really?
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: on his back.
Nicole: oh really?
Kiri: uh-huh.
Nicole: are you one of his wives?
Kiri: yeah.
Nicole: oh right.
Kiri: and Tia’s the other one. Tia is in hysterics
here, she is having….
Nicole: did Tia tell you about that I have to get
on my knees to speak to her? She didn’t like that.
She stuck her tongue out at me.
Kiri: oh she pokes her tongue out at everybody
that she finds funny and amusing. But yeah, now
back to swimwear. Okay, I can do three different,
distinct types. Do you have a stiffish fabric?
That this particular design I have in mind is a
little risqué, right it has no straps whatsoever,
it just relies totally on the stiffness of the
material. Well actually up here it relies on….
Nicole: can you send me some of that in the mail?
Kiri: I wish I could.
Nicole: oh bummer.
Kiri: uh-huh. It’s kind of a little bit like a
plastic-type material, it breathes and everything
but it can be rigid….
Russ: relies a lot on luck and gravity.
Kiri: and PK but I was thinking you might have a
material that is a little bit more rigid that
would maintain that shape.
Russ: just plastic.
Kiri: no, plastic would be uncomfortable.
Nicole: wetsuit? Sort of, what’s that made out of?
Russ: no, that's neoprene.
Kiri: yeah, yeah that wouldn't work. This
particular design I have is a little risqué.
Nicole: all right so, let's shake on it, let’s
have a swimwear company.
Kiri: okay.
Nicole: yeah, you do the designs…..
Kiri: uh-huh.
Nicole: and then I’ll get them going in Australia.
Kiri: okay.
Nicole: I know a lot of people in swimwear.
Kiri: uh-huh. And we can mess around with the
colors and everything but the designs, some of
them are pretty…..
Nicole: so you’re a good designer? Do you….
Kiri: uh-huh.
(Russ starts laughing loudly)
Russ: oh Jesus, some of the stuff she’s designed
you couldn’t wear on earth, not without getting
arrested.
John: yeah.
Nicole: you got a be a little bit discrete.
Kiri: yes.
Nicole: but like Gold Coast…..
Kiri: what are of standards there? Are they fairly
liberal or…….
Russ: they can get topless on the Gold Coast.
Nicole: oh yeah, we go topless on any beach in
Australia.
Kiri: okay, okay.
Russ: you can work with that.
Kiri: yeah I can work with that quite easy.
Russ: like just one covered up, something like
that?
Kiri: that actually might be quite popular, a
design, an old design that we have on Sirius. It’s
kind of….
Nicole: one side covered up and then not other
one?
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: I remember that one.
Nicole: no, that would be a bit odd. I mean…
Kiri: oh you guys.......you're concerned with sun
tans aren’t you?
John: yeah.
Nicole: yeah, yeah.
John: yeah is going to say, that would really mess
up your suntan.
Russ: it looks good on Hades Base though.
Nicole: like, yeah it would be good for a sort of
like a swim.......
Kiri: okay.
Nicole: oh man, I’m going to become rich.
Kiri: okay.
Russ: well don’t forget what Omal said though.
Nicole: hmm, yeah.
Russ: you’ve got….
Kiri: oh yes.
Russ: you've got responsibilities on top of that
too after you become rich.
Nicole: oh yeah, I……
Kiri: you can use that as a key to get the money
so that you can get into your governmental
assembly.
Russ: or just have the pull to write something
that would get noticed.
Nicole: oh yeah, I’m going to get onto that as
soon as I get home.
Kiri: uh-huh.
Nicole: I can do many things at once.
Kiri: okay, so I’m going to take some spare time,
I’m going to have to work on....yeah, okay.
Russ: saves you a lot of money on CPA's.
Nicole: yeah, sorry.
Kiri: oh I was just thinking on what I’ve got to
do over the next week.
Nicole: oh we're going to have so much fun.
John: now are we going to have a channeling
session two weeks from now when we have this
party?
Kiri: maybe, depends on how many people show up.
Ooohhh, okay I’m going to put her back on.
(Russ and John break out in laughter)
John: okay.
Russ: bye Kiri.
Nicole: bye.
Russ: see you next week love.
John: see you Kiri.
Kiri: okay, I’ll be back as Omal might say.
John: congratulations on the ski team.
Kiri: oh thank you, see you guys.
John: see you.
(Tia finishes up the little bit of tape left)
Russ: hello Tia.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: the human pogo stick.
Tia: yes, I’m having fun.
John: how come you're so bouncy tonight?
Tia: I've had a lot of fun, guess........
THE TAPE ENDS
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