Archivist Notes: Welcome to the third month in a row that have followed three weeks of channeling sessions back in May 1994 from the members of Ashtar Command. While the two previous months have had Omal or Korton channeling, there may have been a meeting and it was only the three girls on the base who normally channel anyway. Something else unusual was Kiri starting things off instead of Tia. With that said, Kiri comes back to a previous conversation where we discussed friends who moved away but later came back changed in some way. Her explanation for it is that they change to a different parallel universe and only an aspect of them is what you meet later on. What follows that is about a discussion I had had with our friend Carrie about the difference between precognition and déjà vu. Kiri then provides her take on the subject. We also learn from her that, while the computers on the base are very smart, they aren't self-aware. She wraps up and that then brings on Tia to follow-up. She tells us about a mistake made by the lab where Kiri and her had been mixed up in their medications so that instead of Kiri helped to get pregnant, it was possibly Tia who was now set to have a new litter. The problem was that the father would be Mark and that means bigger babies than her race could biologically deliver. In her first pregnancy, one of the triplets was delivered by Luna after being transferred from Tia's womb. What Tia was considering was going through a rejuvenation process that would take her back to the age of sixteen and thus reversed the pregnancy. We know now that Tia didn't have a second litter. The only drawback to the rejuvenation idea was a hormone problem that would have to be resolved with medication. That is it for Tia's time channeling so Kiri returned to finish up the side and get the next one started. The topic we get into is of Nikola Tesla and the topic of free energy that he had devoted his life to giving to the world. We start with some of his basic principles and see how he was working with various fields, cosmic rays, and rarefied air in the upper strata of the planet. Unfortunately, that's where the tape ends we have to pick up the subject on side two.

As we return to the topic of free energy once the site has switched, we now focus on how to transfer the collected energy from heat for example into powering a vehicle. She finds it a waste of energy to not capture the heat from the heat generated by brakes or within cylinder heads to then store it as a usable source. The tricky part she couldn't reveal was the actual heat to energy process for a car though this was back in the 90s. As we review various options, we discuss the various ways of saying the trunk of a car as a fun diversion. We then finish up her time channeling with how conduction is related to the storing of energy. A guest speaker in the form of Lyka was supposed to channel at this point but had become terrified for some reason and lost her voice. We try having Tia relay what was being said but things go downhill. Instead, Karra takes over to finish up the night. What we learn from her is that it was probably her who caused Lyka to lose her voice due to a comment she made. Kiri and Karra's family is one of the major ones on their home planet of Sirius. So when Kara came in late to the session, Lyka bowed her head in a gesture of respect. Karra, in an attempt to diffuse any tension, made a comment which caused Lyka to turn 40 shades of red. That brings up the analogy of someone living next to Buckingham palace which made the girl next-door the opposite of run-of-the-mill. We learn a revelation that younger Sirians don't start enjoying alcohol until they're into the thirties. Flowers would be more their preference. She then provides the clue to free energy by using magnets that repel each other which then turns a wheel. Again, this was in the 90s and the huge solar and wind farms had not yet become a thing. Just after we get through discussing mankind's survival with all the threats being faced, she suggests a move underground much as they do on the base as one solution. She points out the need to have a plan for contingencies should there be a need. That's when she pivots to something she picked up about me that was off. With our linked minds, she tries to dig down from inside while asking me questions to narrow the search. After much theorizing, it comes down to possibly being about Alana and the child of the two of us soon to be born. The tape ends on a historically short session that was the first which was under an hour. It has good sound though and great information for the Ashtar Command archives.
 

In love, light, and wisdom as one,
Russ and Karra                                     

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Duration: 25:37 min. - File type: mp3
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SIDE ONE


(Kiri takes on the role of co-ring mistress for the session)


Russ: ........she could, don't worry.

Kiri: peeking in people's minds? It's part of coercion.

Russ: yeah, especially small minds like mine, right?

Kiri: your mind is a very short story. It says, in the beginning, there was Russ, the end.

(Everyone laughs)

Russ: ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

Kiri: that's payback.

Russ: yes, okay, payback it is.

Kiri: problem with the chronometer?

John: the what?

Russ: time, time problem.

Mary Jo: no, I was just thinking of a story.

Kiri: okay, let's hear your story.

Mary Jo: once upon a time........

Kiri: yes.

Russ: a short story all right.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, so we were talking about........oh yeah, friends who move away.

Kiri: friends that move away. They are on a different parallel universe.

Russ: oh.

Kiri: it is so similar to yours that it's almost very.....

Russ: indistinguishable.

Kiri: yeah, indistinguishable. Absolutely no difference whatsoever. And sometimes they come back into your life. That's not because two universes have merged again, that doesn't happen. But it is that they are still on your planet, but that aspect of them has moved away. When they move back, it is the same person but a slightly different aspect.

Russ: hmm, so that's why you see changes in a person.......

Kiri: that's right.

Russ: after you meet them after a long time. John? You hear this, okay?

(Russ starts laughing)

John: yeah.

Russ: all right.

John: totally.

Russ: John's moving to Vegas here soon, I wasn't sure if you'd heard.

Kiri: ahh.

Russ: not looking forward to no changes in John here too much when he comes back.

John: no prob.

Russ: okay, now, Carrie mentioned something that there is a difference between precognition and déjà vu.

Kiri: precognition is knowing that something is going to happen. Déjà vu is the feeling that something is repeating itself.

Russ: right.

Kiri: very simple.

Russ: my problem is, is what I've called déjà vu is I've had dreams.....

Kiri: that come true.

Russ: I'm living life and all of a sudden this dream I had years and years ago when I was a kid, it's there, I'm living it. And Carrie says that's precognition.

Kiri: correct.

Russ: déjà vu is when you don't have a dream, it just suddenly it happens and you're in a space and you just realized you've been here before but you don't know where.

Kiri: correct.

Russ: well now maybe that's a dream that I might've forgotten.

Kiri: it is a bit of two parallel universes with the same thing happening but they rub together. They don't join together, they rub together......

Russ: they rub together?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, does that count with precognition? How does that work?

Kiri: no, precognition is knowing that something will happen before it happens.

Russ: I mean, how was it that I dream this thing and it comes to be in such perfect clarity?

Kiri: it is because your mind takes the probabilities and all the available information that it has, analyzes it and spits it out with the answer.

Russ: to that degree of perfection?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: there's something deeper about our minds than we're ever aware of.

John: it's the most advanced computer.

Kiri: yes. It's the most.......

John: that's what it is, man.

Kiri: on any dimension, the mind of a living entity that is sentient is the most powerful computer ever. You go to Sirius......

Russ: right.

Kiri: and there are computers there that are extremely intelligent. They're not self-aware, but they're extremely intelligent. They have a vast knowledge of the planet, they can predict to within a 75% factor what's going to happen, they can control the transportation system, they control water, they control almost every aspect of life. They probably have an IQ that is more than most people on Sirius but they're not smarter. They're not smarter because we designed them.

Russ: you?

Kiri: exactly. You can have something that has a higher IQ into the hundreds, into the thousands, but it is not smart.

Russ: hmmmm.

Kiri: now when you get to a computer that is self-aware, that is no longer a machine but a living entity.

Russ: are there such machines, or entities?

Kiri: yes.

(Russ laughs again)

John: you mean like poltergeists?

Kiri: sorry?

(Russ speaking to John)

Russ: she doesn't know that one.

John: oh.

Russ: it's on file up there I'm sure. Poltergeists, "they're here".

Kiri: translation, noisy spirit.

John: yes.

Russ: so self-aware computers.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: is this what Ashtar was talking about when he was talking about entities on planets who aren't even living beings?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: I see.

Kiri: or one part.

Russ: one part was living beings.

Kiri: no, one part of what he was saying.

Russ: oh, okay, I see.

Kiri: there are different......

Russ: oh, you could take that......there's different things that fit that same description.

Kiri: yes.

Russ: like entities have moved on...

Kiri: uh-huh, that are just a mind.

Russ: just a mind, right. I see. All right.....

Kiri: I want to clear up something.

Russ: sure.

Kiri: last time we talked about the group consciousness of trees.

Russ: oh yes, right.

Kiri: you were saying that they were like....

Russ: the Borg.

Kiri: yes. They are like the Borg in the fact that they are a group entity.

Russ: right.

Kiri: and that is all their similarities are. But the Borg are fictitious.

Russ: right.

Kiri: to a certain extent. Everything is based loosely on other things.

Russ: right. Okay, now, my plants in the backyard that I just put in today.....

Kiri: yes they do.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: no, they're not conscious.

Russ: okay. They're not conscious because they are so small as we talked about.

Kiri: correct.

Russ: but there are elemental spirits now....

Kiri: that kick around.

Russ: for those particular species of plant. Because we have such a great space to go kick back in, they'd be attracted to it.

Kiri: eventually.

Russ: eventually we will get elemental spirits.

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: depends how well we treat our plants, right?

Kiri: yeah. Talk to them, be nice to them.

Russ: I did that today as a matter of fact.

Kiri: tell them that they are good plants, they're growing very well.

Russ: especially the strawberries. Okay. Well Kiri, thank you much for your time and information.

Kiri: uh-huh. Ahh, no worries.

Russ: why the tea by the way?

Kiri: just to prove that I could do it.

Russ: oh, okay. Well you proved yourself more than adequate.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: have a wonderful night my dear.

John: we're not worthy.

Kiri: I'm cool. I'm one hip........can't get the words out, nevermind. Coolness, okay.

Russ: tell Tia said hi.

Kiri: oh yeah, okay. Bye.

Russ: okay, bye.

Mary Jo: see you, bye.

---

(Tia takes over as ring mistress)


Russ: how's it going?

Tia: it's quite enjoyable.

(Tia speaks to the cats for a bit)

Russ: well now, how is Hades Base now?

Tia: Hades base now, Hades base now is fine.

Russ: well that's good.

Tia: found out why Carrie.......Kiri isn't conceiving.

Russ: why's that?

Tia: because they didn't take her off her medication to stop her from getting pregnant. They took somebody else off by accident.

Russ: Kiri's not the happiest person in the world right now.

Tia: no. And neither is the person that is pregnant.

Russ: and neither are the people responsible for the little goof up.

Tia: no, because you know who's pregnant?

Russ: who's pregnant?

Tia: me.

Russ: okay. Well that's good. Congratulations I guess are in order, huh?

Tia: yeah, confused congratulations. You want to sort them out?

(Two cats in the room were going at it)

Russ: I dunno, maybe you should go do it.

Tia: I'm not 100% sure that I am pregnant but the fact that I was supposed to start my period a couple days before Kiri and I haven't.

Russ: well, I'll start thinking of new names.

Tia: hmm, yes.

Russ: triplets again.

Tia: it's going to be fun, it's going to be crazy.

Russ: if I know this, I'd be the holder I believe.(?)

Tia: hmm, but I don't want to be pregnant.

Russ: well let's see now, how did Mark put it? He assumed that because Kiri wasn't pregnant, it was because there weren't any entities wanting to be born right now.

Tia: and to Kiri that is....

(Russ laughs)

Russ: it's not a personal thing, is it?

Tia: no, no.

Russ: then why would you be preferenced over Kiri?

Tia: I don't know. As I said, we're not too sure and I'm kind of about a week late at the moment.

Russ: I mean, there are reasons for such a thing, right?

Tia: well it was supposed to be Kiri that was off of her tablets to stop her from getting pregnant, to let her get pregnant.

Russ: right.

Tia: and it turns out that it was me that they took off by accident.

Russ: isn't that in Kornas' department?

Tia: uh-huh and he should know better. I'm not ready to have kittens again yet, I don't want to.

Russ: it's not a choice matter for you, is it?

Tia: no, it's more of a health matter.

Russ: yeah? But in that case, you have to abort, right?

Tia: not necessarily.

Russ: could you transfer them in the womb maybe?

Tia: no. I'd have rejuve which means that they would just shrink back and disappear. Which means I'd be out of circulation for a whole entire month. So it would be a rejuve that would not be necessary. It would not be desirable at this time for me.

Russ: well, when you say it's a health matter......

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: I don't understand that part of it. The fact that you had two wonderful children out of your womb.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: three if you count Luna.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: and women down here do that on a yearly basis.

Tia: yeah, but I'm smaller.

Russ: not much smaller than some of the women down here.

Tia: yeah, but my uterus isn't designed to have big babies. Big babies being two and a half pounds apiece.

Russ: well things stretch. You certainly got yourself stretched.

Tia: uh-huh but they also stretch back. Besides, it's not normal for my species to have less than a year after conceiving the first time having another litter. That's not normal. It's normally about three years afterwards, four years sometimes. Even ten years after that a mother will have her second litter.

Russ: you'll still have your strawberry blonde hair after your rejuvenation plan.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: okay.

Tia: I can be rejuved to about sixteen. That's as far as they can go back.

Russ: well why can't you......

Tia: I can have a light rejuve which would only put me out of circulation for two weeks but I'm liable to have hormone problems.

Russ: why couldn't you........

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: have the babies placed in a surrogate mother?

Tia: because I don't want to. They're in my body.

Russ: so.......

Tia: with Luna it was absolutely, 100% necessary.

Russ: you'd rather go into rejuve to deny these babies life.

Tia: at the moment in my opinion, I mean if I am pregnant, they're smaller than a pinhead. They don't have the cell structure. I mean, they're what, four cells if I'm pregnant.

Russ: right.

Tia: and there is no entity that would inhabit that. It's when the mind starts forming. They haven't even got a mind at the moment. They haven't got a heart, arms, legs, or anything.

Russ: you know that for a fact.

Tia: yes, it's just a collection of cells at the moment.

Russ: so why not abort them? Save yourself the rejuve.

Tia: I don't like aborting.

Russ: well, it's not even a life, is it?

Tia: I know it's not a life.

Russ: it's less than an organ.

Tia: yeah, but it's the fact that Kornas messing around inside me. I don't want to be cut open again or have things stuck up in through my legs that I don't want stuck up through my legs.

Russ: so you'd rather deny your children a month without her mother's presence so that you can maintain this sense of duty?

Tia: they won't be denied a month of my presence.

Russ: why, are they going to rejuve too?

Tia: no. You can't rejuve anybody that hasn't reached....

Russ: puberty?

Tia: yeah, puberty.

Russ: if you're going to go into a month of rejuve....

Tia: that's if I go into a tank and it's not a continuous month.

Russ: then what is it?

Tia: I go in and I sleep in this gooey mixture and I have to take a course of medicines and everything and I can still see my kittens although I tend to all the people that are going through it tend to forget what is happening between the rejuve you see because of all the surgery that's going on. You're doped up half the time. You can hold a perfectly good conversation like this and then you can go, "what was I talking about?"

Russ: okay, I got two options for you to settle on.

Tia: uh-huh. We don't know if I'm pregnant or not.

Russ: this us hypothetical.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: two options. Number one, actually they all involve one trip. Have someone come down here in a ship, right?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: pick up a pregnancy testing kit.

Tia: God Russ, that is a wasted question.

Russ: I've got questions to waste. They go to France and they pick up the abortion pills.

Tia: is it R101?

Russ: RU....

Tia: are you......?

Russ: RU20.

Tia: are you pregnant?

Russ: are you pregnant? Not anymore. Okay, or I've heard this is a wives tale but maybe it's true. You take a bunch of papaya seeds and you start scarfing them down and that will bring on an abortion.

Tia: hmm, I'm actually tempted with the idea of having a rejuve. Just a light one, two weeks.

Russ: what about your hormones?

Tia: hmm, I can take drugs for them. According to Kiri who has seen one light rejuve, the young lady concerned........well she wasn't that young........she was going on a mission and she needed to look younger. And she couldn't go on the mission afterwards because she got herself pregnant. But that's because she wasn't taking the.....

Russ: pills.

Tia: yeah. But it's a common side effect that first of all periods stop, right? For up to two months......

Russ: oh.

Tia: then, you get extremely horny and for a Sirian to be extremely horny is a very strange thing to see. I mean they're horny all the time anyway.

Russ: I was gonna say, it's not that strange.

Tia: no. But the fact is that....

Russ: I've gotten used to it.

Tia: yeah, I'm horny morning, noon, and night.

Russ: okay, that's good, great. Congratulations I guess or not.

Tia: I hope not. We'll find out soon enough.

Russ: okay, fair enough. All right, well I've taken a enough of your time. I'll let you take a cold bath.

Tia: it doesn't stop me from being horny though.

Russ: well that's true.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: if you and Kiri want to go off to a side room or something.....

Tia: Kiri is on the rag.

Russ: oh, she is?

Tia: she comes off tomorrow or late tonight.

Russ: oh?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: good.

Tia: and then she's got to wait........well, I mean she can have as much sex as she wants but she won't be able to conceive for another month whilst it's all washed out of her body system.

Russ: oh.

Tia: uh-huh. Well, I've got to go and have tests later on, well tomorrow morning so I'm going to be late for work. And I asked Kornas, I said, "is it all right if I have as much sex as I want?" and he said, "go ahead". So I've got to go in and they'll scan me and fortunately they don't have to stick things up into my arms.

Russ: yeah.

Tia: actually, there's another possibility that I've just thought of.

Russ: what's that?

Tia: it's possible that when they put Kiri..........or wouldn't take Kiri off............you see, they gave me a new formula after I had the Cubs, right?

Russ: yeah.

Tia: I was wondering the fact that I was taken off, would that affect my hormones and stop me from having a period?

Russ: when I got my old lady, or young lady, to go on a birth control shot, she got to a point where she almost didn't have any periods. She was late by about three weeks, almost four weeks before she finally got her period. She knew wasn't pregnant.......

Tia: no, I'm thinking. Okay, I'm going to hand over.

Russ: okay, have fun.

---

(Kiri returns for the second time)


Russ: Kiri I see in the distance?

Kiri: huh, huh, yo dude.

Russ: hi Kiri.

Kiri: uh-huh? I don't think she is pregnant. That's my opinion. So I am a little irritated.

Russ: you know Kiri? I think you will deal with the situation with total aplomb and grace.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: how do you do it?

(Kiri and Russ chuckles)

Russ: must be your dad's influence.

Kiri: I come off my period, right?

Russ: right.

Kiri: I should say probably about 4 o'clock your time. Stop bleeding, not as bloated as I was. Okay, let's try it.

Russ: okay, I only say this so you won't get in trouble you realize because I have your best interests at heart.

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: oh ye of little faith. All right my darling, we are onto the theories and possibilities of a Mr. Nikola Tesla.

Kiri: oh you and old Nikola, huh?

Russ: he had a lot going on. I can see it all stopped up just as he died. So, to continue on from where we left off.

Kiri: when did he lie down and give up the ghost?

Russ: I can't remember, I haven't finished the book yet.

Kiri: oh.

Russ: about 1940.

Kiri: I was about to say, he must be pretty close to being reborn if not already.

Russ: for all we know, he passed on to the next....

Kiri: anyway, come on, come on.

Russ: free energy my dear.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: free energy and the ability to collect it.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: now, old Nikola, he had the principles down. Nikola said that molecules and atoms spinning in an orbit are much like celestial bodies........

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and they carry static charges. And the ether tension or electrostatic charges.....

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: are what basically makes up our electrical fields. Now he worked with cosmic rays and at that point free energy models are operated by conduction through rarefied air at considerable distances in the upper strata of our planet.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: now, what is conduction?

            
SIDE ONE ENDS

SIDE TWO


(Kiri returns to the subject at hand)


Kiri: now, they talk about ship stuff. Now ship stuff, basically.....

Russ: wait a minute, found it.

Kiri: okay, want me to put it on pause or are you going to read it?

Russ: yeah, put it on pause.

(The tape gets turned off and back on again)

Kiri: getting back to an energy source of free energy.

Russ: yeah.

Kiri: right, now, a way of getting free energy, right?

Russ: yeah.

Kiri: is from heat, correct?

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: heat gives off energy.

Russ: right.

Kiri: right. Now, supposing you apply your foot to the brake of your automobile. What happens?

Russ: heats up.

Kiri: exactly. Now if you can take energy, right?

Russ: right.

Kiri: and transfer it to the drive of your car or somewhere where it can be stored and can be used......

Russ: right.

Kiri: what in essence have you got?

Russ: you get free energy.

Kiri: exactly.

Russ: right. Well.....

Kiri: the same with anything else.

Russ: we've got solar collectors.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: which are.....

Kiri: yeah, instead of wasting all that power by applying your foot to the brake pedal which in turn squeezes the brake cylinder, right? Which creates heat and what happens to that heat normally?

Russ: it dissipates.

Kiri: why not use it? Why not make it pay.......and I'm paraphrasing here......pay for the privilege of being used?

Russ: okay, good idea. Less waste that way.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: but now if heat turns into energy......

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: how do you collect the heat and turn it into energy?

Kiri: sorry, I can't disclose that, you'll get me into trouble this once.

Russ: oh, good. Now, so instead of a free energy collector, what you're looking for is a heat collector.

Kiri: correct.

Russ: something that sucks up heat.....

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and then stores it as energy.

Kiri: correct.

Russ: okay. Now, theoretically, that means that the molecules being heated up....

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: are in active.......what?

Kiri: no, active motion.

Russ: active motion, right. And so what you're trying to do is make those molecules work for you.....

Kiri: yes.

Russ: while they're in their active mode.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: okay. So, you need something that will essentially slow those things down while they're moving fast.....

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and store the....

Kiri: the energy.

Russ: the energy that's given off while we slow down.

Kiri: uh-huh, correct.

Russ: so that would mean you need to put the heat and store it somewhere.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: interesting.

Kiri: something for your web think about.

Russ: indeed. My brother.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: my brother is getting into stuff like that.

Kiri: maybe it's time that he learned how to expand his mind by using headaches.

(From last month's channeling session)

Russ: might be a good idea, I'll call.

Kiri: uh-huh. Okay, now I am going to try and explain, without going too far.....

Russ: okay.

Kiri: what I'm going to suggest is by collecting the heat, right?

Russ: right.

Kiri: into a heat retention unit, right?

Russ: right.

Kiri: you can store the energy for future use. Now, the way to use it, would be in conjunction temporarily until you find a better way with your internal combustion explosion engines, right?

Russ: right.

Kiri: so that the heat that is used in the explosion is also taken away so it cools down the engine and stored.....hmm, no, I can't really explain it without getting into trouble.

Russ: well, one thing is the use of Freon.

Kiri: no, can't use Freon.

Russ: oh, because it burns holes in the ozone?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, so what you need is something that has a very low boiling point besides Freon....

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and is a liquid.

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: and then, as the liquid reaches its boiling point because of the heat that's given off......

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: it creates energy.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: so you store the heat and as the heat is stored, it heats up the liquid.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: which burns which makes energy which you store into a battery.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: now your cargo bay......

Kiri: oh.

Russ: all cars have cargo bays.....

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: or trunks.

Kiri: that's not what Mark told me.

Russ: he calls it a boot.

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: I wear boots.

Kiri: but he packs his clothes in trunks. And you wear swimming trunks, do you not?

Russ: yeah but I also wear boots.

Kiri: well, it's a silly word.

Russ: all we've got is silly words.

Kiri: well....

Russ: it's all we've got.

Kiri: okay.

(Russ laughs over that)

Kiri: don't do that, you make the needles go balmy up here.

Russ: okay. Now......

Kiri: they're vibrating still. Hold on.

Russ: okay. Now, oh, back to Tesla....

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: all right, which is where we got started on probably anyway.

Kiri: yeah, free energy. I mean, this better be quick because..........well.......

Russ: now, is that the answer to my question that you just described?

Kiri: yes.

Russ: that conduction?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: the storing of energy?

Kiri: uh-huh. You take energy from one place and put it in another. And whilst that's going on it's being conducted.

Russ: okay. And in space, all energy is kinetic.

Kiri: uh-huh, it's in motion.

Russ: and it's moving at a velocity of hundreds of millions of volts?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: good enough. Oh yeah, one more thing, plasma physics.

Kiri: it's above your head.

Russ: oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, I didn't mean to get myself into trouble.

Kiri: okay, I'm going to hand back to Tia.

Russ: all right.

---

(Tia is back for the transition between speakers)


Tia: well, I'm going to put on a guest speaker.

Russ: okay.

Tia: see you later.

Russ: bye love.

---

(A very shy tries and fails to verbally channel)



Russ: hi Lyka, having trouble with the voice still? You can screech if you have to. Just to get used to it. How's the leg?

---

(Tia returns to translate Lyka's answers)


Tia: tell you what, she's going to try and talk in sign language and trying to get the lips to work at the same time.

Russ: well, we'll give it a shot.

Tia: okay.

Russ: oh, are her violent tendencies going away? Yeah, it's something you grow out of. How about a nice game of chess? Well, have you guys ever heard of paint balls? They're great but you guys probably have a lot better stuff up there. Okay, I'd ask for any questions from you but I don't think you can really do that. Let's try a couple more here. Still got the shots. Question mark Paintball? Question mark shoot? Shoot, shot, shot, why shot? Why you shot? Why I shot? Give it a shot. Give it a shot, okay, great. Why give it a shot? Yeah, I'm no good at sign language, I always blew it off. Charades, you want to translate?

Tia: she was asking a question, why shot? No, give it a shot, what do you mean? Nevermind, I'll explain it to her later.

Russ: she did so good with her voice last time, what happened?

Tia: I think she's more shy. Well, I'm going to hand over to the last person.

Russ: okay.

---

(Karra turns out to be the night's main guest speaker)


Karra: I think I was the cause of her losing her voice.

Russ: you are so intimidating sometimes.

Karra: I'm not, I try so hard.

Russ: without even meaning to, you just frighten the hell out of these poor, little Sirian girls.

Karra: I try so hard not to. It was a comment I made when I walked in. She was sitting very patiently.

Russ: I'd invite her over to the house for tea but I'm afraid she would spill all of the tea out of her cup because she was shaking her hand so badly.

Karra: uh-huh. Well, I was a little bit late getting to the channeling session and Tia was in and Kiri was sitting out in the corner. Lyka was sitting in the other corner and I walked in, Lyka gets up and bows to me and she's wearing a T-shirt and a bikini bottom. Nice bikini bottom.

Russ: a bottom from Kiri.

Karra: uh-huh, I think a thong?

Russ: yeah.

Karra: and she turns right back to sit down and all's I said was nice toosh. Nice toosh sweetie.

Russ: do you have this effect on women back on Sirius......

Karra: hmm....

Russ: when you go back to visit dad?

Karra: there's no reason for that when I'm there actually.

Russ: bowing and scraping?

Karra: it's not a bow and scrape, she nodded and turned her head out of respect. And then when she turned around she put a book down that she was reading, she went to pick it up and she bent over and dropped it on the floor and it was sort of like nice toosh sweetie.

Russ: you think that would make you look more human.

Karra: that's what I was trying to do.

Russ: good idea. Oh well.....

Karra: instead, she went forty shades of red and sat down very quickly. Also, she was in one of those "Sirian moods".

Russ: yes, I know. But, it's nice knowing there's some girl up there who will do anything you say at the drop of a hat.

Karra: I'm quite content with what we have.

Russ: I don't blame you. But of course from a male point of view.....

Karra: Nazreal's got no interest in her whatsoever.

(Karra's son)

Russ: oh, well?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: oh well. Anyway my dear.......

Karra: in fact he tries to avoid Sirians as a whole.

Russ: why?

Karra: because of his stature, what he has to live up to.

Russ: he never had any problem when he went back to visit dad.

Karra: yeah, but they were on a military base. Then we drove up into the hills.....

Russ: right.

Karra: I mean, it wasn't exactly as if the road was busy.

Russ: well, no, you were headed to Zelda. (?)

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: he carries it so well though, your dad?

Karra: he has plenty of practice.

Russ: it's like talking to the guy next door.

Karra: well, I might talk like the girl next door and so is Kiri.

Russ: well to me you are.

Karra: uh-huh. It's the stories. I mean, you take Kiri for example. Top of her class, champion coercer, umm got a reputation for being a little bit on the mischievous side.

Russ: I suppose it's like if you're living in London and your next-door neighbor is Buckingham Palace........

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: the girl next door's not exactly your run-of-the-mill girl next door.

Karra: I mean she's torn between, and this is funny, Tia, Kiri, and Mark. She doesn't know who that she wants.

Russ: that's terrible.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: probably get her drunk, maybe she'll figure it out.

Karra: she doesn't drink.

Russ: she doesn't drink?

Karra: no.

Russ: she must be really confused then.

Karra: uh-huh. Well, I'm not saying that she doesn't drink, she doesn't like to drink.

Russ: hmm.

Karra: younger Sirians don't tend to start enjoying alcoholic beverages until they're into their thirties. The young ones that do, tend to be very old spirits that needed to be reborn.

Russ: oh. Okay, the question today is, all electrical fields are magnetic.

Karra: to a lesser or greater extent, yes.

Russ: yeah, it's okay.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: okay so, if you were to project an electrical field from a stationary object to objects around you to power them, you would be placing objects in that path in that field.....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: the electromagnetic....

Karra: there's a very simple way.....

Russ: hmm.

Karra: North magnets repel each other, right?

Russ: right.

Karra: if you have a circle of North magnets, right?

Russ: right.

Karra: and you put a magnet that is north all the way, has no South in it......

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: what does it do?

Russ: it repels.

Karra: uh-huh. So it will either sit there stationary in the middle, right?

Russ: right.

Karra: or, it will spin.

Russ: right.

Karra: connect that up to something....

Russ: and you'd have energy.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: can't be that simple. How did we ever make it to third dimension?

(Russ laughs at the absurdity)

Karra: here's a quick question for you. What's one of Mark's favorite military phrases?

Russ: hmmm, phrases?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: I give up.

Karra: in war, the hardest things are easy and the easiest things are hard. That's what Tia tells me.

Russ: okay.

Karra: now, it seems that I've had a little bit of success with that little bit of metal program.

Russ: oh good.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: okay.

Karra: Tia reports that he's having some very strange healing dreams.

Russ: so it's working.

Karra: now, what we've got to do is get him to be able to vocalize and remember them.

Russ: indeed. Good luck on that.

Karra: no, you've got to help in that a little bit.

Russ: I got to help?

Karra: uh-huh. You've got to ask you if he's had a healing dream and if so, what did he dream?

Russ: ahh, I see.

Karra: so, you coming up tonight?

Russ: did you, I guess I didn't tell you, did I? I told Alana but not you that yeah, I'm going to be coming up but up until now......

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: to July, I'm going to be spending a lot more time with Alana.

Karra: oh yeah, of course. Of course, that's very sensible of you.

Russ: yeah, I forgot to tell you this morning before I went off.

Karra: yeah, it was relayed to me that because she's getting close.....

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: that you want to spend more time with her....

Russ: and?

Karra: little.....what's her name?

Russ: Miranda.

Karra: yeah, Miranda.

Russ: especially when I've got a bonding ceremony coming up.....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: I got a child coming up....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: and as much as I love you and our two sons, and Klarra, and everybody......

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: it's gotta get equal time here, that's all there is to it.

Karra: of course, yeah.

Russ: and so I spent a lot of time with you before your birth of our two sons......

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: so it's gotta be equal time now and then I'll split myself up later afterwards.

Karra: okay. Right, you spend time with Alana tonight, I won't be in the apartment until.......

Russ: you don't have to avoid me.

Karra: no, no, no, no, no. It's just that I've got to help Tia with her tests. I don't feel any different energy coming off of her. I think it might be partly psychological that she thinks she's........

Russ: not pregnant?

Karra: yeah. Okay, carry-on with questions.

Russ: how did Omal like the Star Trek Next Generation?

Karra: I don't think he's had an opportunity to watch it yet but he does have it stored on hologram discs.

Russ: okay darling, now I've got a series of questions, or three of them......

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: that are all very interrelated which I think can fill up the rest of this tape with here.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: especially as you're our last guest. All right, number one, and this has nothing to do with health of people, but more like health of a species.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: the human species for one. And that is, first off, overpopulation......

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: and the cumulative stats and how we are overpopulating.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: second related to that is the rainforest deforestation.......

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: and the last one is, are we as a people like history but we just don't know it yet?

Karra: I'll start off with the last one first, yes.

Russ: okay.

Karra: okay, next one? Deforestation of the rainforests? What is a rainforest?

Russ: it's a bunch of trees in a huge, huge area.

Karra: isn't a jungle a better name?

Russ: yeah, but it's real wet.

Karra: but what does a jungle mean?

Russ: a.......wait a minute, don't tell me.......garden gone amok.

Karra: uh-huh. Personally, I prefer that much better.

Russ: yeah, well desert's the exact opposite.

Karra: yeah. It is necessary to keep your rainforests, your jungles. It's very beneficial for your species because although it doesn't give off that much in the way of oxygen compared to..........I think it's only 3% to your planet.

Russ: right.

Karra: what's in there is very beneficial.

Russ: right.

Karra: it also helps to cool the land, it keeps soil in place, it does all tons and tons of stuff and what was the first question?

Russ: overpopulation.

Karra: overpopulation. Yes, that is a big problem. The pressure of overpopulation on your planet is getting to the point where you have to produce three times as much food as you do now by the year 2000 or 2010 I think.

Russ: right. And the space for growing it is decreasing fast....

Karra: because.....

Russ: because of the people coming up.

Karra: yeah. But there is a solution.

Russ: what's that?

Karra: you dig down.

Russ: dig down? Grow underground?

Karra: no.

Russ: put people......

Karra: troglodyte type existence.

Russ: that's very unhealthy for people though.

Karra: no it's not.

Russ: sure it is.

Karra: why?

Russ: because up in the Northern climates where there's very little sun, you find a very big amount of unhealthy and depressed people. And sun has found to be quite a beneficial thing for people to deal with. I mean yeah, you have artificial sun on Hades Base but we haven't got to that type of.......

Karra: yes you have.

Russ: not on that scale.

Karra: you just use street lighting that has the correct ultraviolet rays. It's very simple and it is done.

Russ: hmmm.

Karra: I know it's a troglodyte existence.....

Russ: yeah.

Karra: but for overpopulation that's the only way to go. But, the thing is not to get in the situation where you are overpopulated.

Russ: well, I thought that the earth was going to deal with that one way or another.

Karra: uh-huh. But if it doesn't, you've got to plan for other contingencies, do you not?

Russ: no you don't.

Karra: yes you do.

Russ: no you don't. I won't be here that long.

Karra: if you don't plan for other contingencies then it's pointless. If you have one plan in just press ahead with it, right?

Russ: right.

Karra: and it goes wrong then your stuffed. So you have to plan contingencies.

Russ: okay. If there was a very cheap energy source....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: okay? Wouldn't it able to help bring the world's economies back online so that we could afford to do a plan like what you're talking about?

Karra: possibly. What is really up with you? You're distracted by something.

Russ: I'm distracted by how easy it is.

Karra: no, there's something else on your mind.

Russ: you read my mind better than I do, what is it? I don't know. I'm going great guns with Erica.

Karra: I don't know. I'm not going to probe down that deep. What is worrying you?

Russ: you know, that's funny you should say that. Something is worrying me, I don't know what it is. I think it's Alana.

Karra: you see, you're fidgeting nervously. I mean you sound fine, your aura looks fine, but you're fidgeting. Nervous sort of fidgeting. Flicking the top of the pen. You don't do that normally unless of course you've got something that you're thinking about on a lower level of consciousness.

Russ: well that's obvious where that's coming from. It's all where my questions have been directed at tonight.

Karra: I think it's deeper than that. You've been reading something that scared you. Yes, that is self-evident.

Russ: yeah.

Karra: but what is down there in that deeper level that you call a brain that's more like a black hole?

(Russ chuckles)

Russ: darling, I wish I knew. I can't think of anything that would be doing it. Because I mean, it's like everything's going great.....

Karra: uh-huh. I'm trying to pull it to the surface because if we can pull it to the surface or you can pull it to the surface, you can look at it and see what it really is and find out if it's necessary to be concerned about it or not.

Russ: I don't know. My health is good.....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: everyone I love is doing well......

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: my farsighting sucks. If I can get my farsighting down would be better but it's not what's worrying me.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: because I'm not getting worse, I'm just not getting any better.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: hmmm.....

Karra: financial?

Russ: financial's going great. I have no problems moneywise.

Karra: work?

Russ: work's doing even better than that.......

Karra: what about your new boss?

Russ: thanks to you anyway.

Karra: what about your new boss?

Russ: well, that's what I mean, thanks to you.....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: our little conjunction there.....

Karra: okay. What about Larry? Is he.....

(My assistant manager at the theater I managed)

Russ: he's doing good.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: all I can think of is just Alana is probably about the biggest thing that's got me worried.

Karra: I know.

Russ: I wanted to have my astral projection down so that I could make a bigger thing with this birth and bonding ceremony that you and I could do.

Karra: how do you feel about Carrie moving away?

Russ: well, it's disturbing of course but it's expected. Nothing I can do about it.

Karra: hmmm, maybe.

Russ: I think that's it?

Karra: possible.

Russ: that'd be way deep down then because I pretty well already canceled it out as being inevitable.

Karra: what about.......

Russ: I still say it's Alana.

 
THE TAPE ENDS