SIDE
ONE
(Korton is the surprise first
speaker)
Russ: February 6th, 1993, farsighting lesson number
two.
Korton: greetings and felicitations and right on the
button.
Russ: greetings Korton.
Korton: I can only stay for a few minutes.
Russ: that's all right. You come through pretty
significantly when you do come through.
Korton: uh-huh. Okay, down to business briefly as I
said I can only stay for a few due to the fact that
I have go and debrief the channeler.
Russ: well, it's nice to speak to you after this
long time and what can we discuss in this short
period we've got together?
Korton: energy buildup.
Russ: okay.
Korton: okay, now you explain to me today's trip and
the energy buildup. I don't want to know where you
went, I don't want to know what happened as that is
already known.......
Russ: right, the energy buildup.
Korton: yes, just the energy buildup.
Russ: okay, trip to Hades Base, built up energy,
speeded up, then got to Hades Base, did a negative
feedback loop, built up the energy there for the
trip onward, traveling through faster and faster we
got the more energy built up. Finally got to a place
on a planet to use the gravity well and use the
energy from that to build up more speed until we got
to our destination and at which point we used the
gravity well to slow ourselves down and throw up all
the excess energy we built up.
Korton: uh-huh. And the return trip?
Russ: the return trip was basically the same thing
in reverse following the silver cord through the
gravity well back to Hades Base and then no negative
feedback loop right back here.
Korton: using the rubber band type effect.
Russ: correct.
Korton: okay. What did you experience during the
energy buildup and the traveling time whilst you
were gaining more energy?
Russ: well, it felt like a comet. In other words,
while I traveled, I felt like I was picking up
either debris or charged particles or something
along my path that, as I traveled through it, it
tended to cling to me and give me more substance,
more energy to work off to burn.
Korton: uh-huh.
Russ: and the farther I went the faster I went, the
more I collected, the more energy kept gathering and
gathering and gathering which I kept using as kind
of like a fuel.
Korton: uh-huh. We ask you this for reason for you
to ponder and understand.
Russ: okay.
Korton: okay, now I have to depart......
Russ: all right.
Korton: and it's been nice talking to you again.
Russ: thank you again. See you shortly again.
Farewell.
(Tia is the
ring mistress for this night only)
Tia: Incy Wincy spider went climbing up the spout,
down came the rain and washed the spider out.
Russ: hi Tia.
Tia: hey.
Russ: hey, how's it going?
Tia: fun.
Russ: did we have some fun this morning or what?
Tia: yeah.
Russ: yeah, that was a blast. So are you the
designated professor for the evening?
Tia: temporarily.
Russ: close enough.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: good, since we were together this morning,
you'll be able to help me out with some of the
questions I have for this evening.
Tia: okay.
Russ: okay, first off, I noticed when we took off
from Hades Base that what used to be fairly familiar
landmarks or space marks I guess you could say....
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: all lost all forms of comprehension
whatsoever.....
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: due to the difference in differential space
differences.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: everything was all like a mixed up bunch of
stars to me.
Tia: yeah, well, things do tend to get a little bit
blurred and the further you get away from a
particularly bright heavenly body being guided by
another heavenly body....
Russ: oh geez.
Tia: you tend to see more. The more dimmer stars
tend to become brighter due to the fact A, you're
getting closer to them and B, you're getting further
away from a bright light source.
Russ: right, but familiar constellations don't look
so familiar anymore.
Tia: uh-huh, there's extra bits to them.
Russ: right. And you like get lost in the shuffle.
So, I don't mind following you of course......
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: but, when I'm doing this on my own, when I
start to do it on my own, how the heck do you keep
this stuff straight?
Tia: memory, you have to remember.
Russ: oh.
Tia: trial and error.
Russ: is there a chance of getting lost?
Tia: uh-huh, a little bit of a chance but as long as
you keep a straight linear line you're all right.
Notice how I kept a nice linear line?
Russ: yeah, because you knew where you were going.
Tia: of course, but when you travel anywhere, you
keep a nice linear line.
Russ: right, what if you're going someplace you
haven't been before and have to go hunting around?
That line is going to look like a zigzagging drunken
person.
Tia: uh-huh, but you've got to remember reference
points where you hit, press, roll and you go off on
a 45° angle or a 90° angle or a 280° angle........
Russ: oh.
Tia: to the next point and then you have to remember
and trace it back as you come.
(Russ whistles)
Russ: kind of tricky.
Tia: or, what you could do is do it in a big loop, a
funny shaped loop going from point A to point B to
point C point D to point E back to point A.
Russ: uh-huh, kind of like a lasso.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: I understand. So yeah, that's how you can do a
hunt and search type thing.
Tia: yeah, do a search pattern. It's not necessarily
a nice, tidy pattern but when you're in a solar
system, it's quite easy to do a hunting pattern. But
if you're covering a large area, it becomes a little
bit more difficult.
Russ: oh, okay.
Tia: such as today's trip was quite easy, wasn't it?
Russ: yeah, well I was following you.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: that made it quite easy.
Tia: yeah.
Russ: but actually I tried to keep an eye on what
was going around.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: like for example hitting Sirius, that was
pretty much a straightforward shot from Hades Base.
Tia: uh-huh. Well traveled route as well.
Russ: I can imagine.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: but then the trip to Alpha Centauri, that was
a little bit tricky because you had to make a lag or
what looked like a jag sort of there.
Tia: yeah, well that we went further and then we
came back nearer.
Russ: oh.
Tia: used it is a demonstration.
Russ: oh, so you're kind of like a landmark type of
thing you're talking about.
Tia: uh-huh. Yes, it was easy because Sirius is so
bright, it is easy to use as a landmark and then by
orientating oneself one can find one's objective.
Russ: oh.
Tia: it's a bit like the zigzag pattern that I was
just describing.
Russ: right. Well I did notice that once we got to
Sirius.....
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: you could see Alpha Centauri as a big cloud.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: and from there it was easy to take it from
there.
Tia: yeah.
Russ: so that's how you do it.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: find one landmark like that, or space mark....
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: and then track it down to your next
destination.
Tia: that's correct.
Russ: okay. I get it, good. So just the more trips
you get to be more familiar with the neighborhood in
other words.
Tia: that's right. You start off on a local scale,
finding the various planets unaided that is, not
with the help of somebody that is an average
farsighter, you find you travel around your own
solar system which gives you a feel for doing dog
legs and zigzags and so on. And then you head out to
a little bit further, Alpha Centauri and Sirius and
then you head off to Arcturus and so on.
Russ: wow. That's quite far up there.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: okay. Now, one thing when we were talking to
Korton about just a few minutes ago......
Tia: uh-huh..........yeah.
Russ: was the matter that was in the pathway that
got picked up and used as energy.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: now is that space debris or is that like
charged particles, what exactly could you call that?
Tia: it's a mixture of charged particles, dark
matter and space debris.
Russ: oh, so it's a little combination of
everything.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: okay.
Tia: there is a key there to another matter which
will be discussed at a later date.
Russ: antimatter?
Tia: no, not antimatter, another point of interest
that can be used at a later time.
Russ: okay, I'll save that for later then.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: okay.
Tia: make a note.
Russ: okay.
Tia: but we'll probably mention it at a later time,
maybe next channeling session or the channeling
session after.
Russ: okay.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: so I noticed as I travel along and this stuff
kind of collected as I traveled....
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: I kind of soaked it in and burned it off......
Tia: yeah.
Russ: not only did it give me more solidity you
might say......
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: because of that matter, but also it acted
great as a fuel.
Tia: that's correct. But you can also save the
matter.
Russ: hmmm. So instead of shucking it like I
did.....
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: you can save on to it but it would seem
like.........oh, that would help for the solidity
part.
Tia: uh-huh. But as I said, that will be discussed
at a later time.
Russ: oh. Okay, good. Now then, another question I
had though....
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: when we got to Alpha Centauri and saw the base
there.....
Tia: hmm?
Russ: and saw.......was that Korton or is that an
aspect of Korton?
Tia: that is an aspect of Korton. Korton is pretty
busy at the moment with research, working with other
groups, working with this group, digesting
information and data....
Russ: okay. Well what I'd like to look at is kind of
like how we live on third dimension.......
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: but we work up on fifth, it'd be kind of like
he lives on sixth and works on fifth type thing?
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: I see, so we kind of have a meeting ground
there on Hades Base but we're kind of going to his
like home base there.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: okay. Well if that's an aspect of Korton, he's
kind of spread himself around a bit.
Tia: you could say that. It's to do with modes of
transport cutting down on time away. This was
demonstrated just recently.
Russ: it was?
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: okay. I don't remember it then.
Tia: by my charming and delightful companion.
Russ: Kiri?
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: oh. Oh, you mean how she came down here and
took over Mark's body?
Tia: no, no, no, no, no, no. How long was she away
for?
Russ: about two weeks.
Tia: uh-huh. And how long did she say that she'd
been gone by, gone for?
Russ: four months?
Tia: no.
Russ: three months?
Tia: a month.
Russ: a month.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: right.
Tia: which means that the moment, she's also in
another place.
Russ: ahhhhhhhh. So it's the same as like Mark being
there while he's actually here.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: I get it. So then, why wasn't it a good idea
for me to meet my aspect on Alpha Centauri?
Tia: cause it doesn't work that way.
Russ: why?
Tia: do you know what sort of confusion that would
cause if you're untrained for it?
Russ: you would think you know, you're going over to
meet like an old friend type thing.
Tia: uh-huh, that knows........
Russ: knows you, I mean knows everything about you
that could be known.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: have great conversations.
Tia: but meeting oneself is not a desirable thing to
do.
Russ: I'll take your word for it.
Tia: it's rather hard to explain. Let me see if I
can explain it. One person meeting himself in the
same space....
Russ: uh-huh.
Tia: is very unbalancing for the space around it.
Russ: okay. So then, even though I can conceive of
the idea, space would have a tough time with it.
Tia: yes.
Russ: roughly.
Tia: roughly. It's to do with the energy and the
particles that you make quite a interesting bang.
Not a big bang, but a rather interesting bang and as
far as I know it's never happened where one person
meets himself, it has been speculated and theorized
on what would happen.
Russ: oh. Well, I knew at the time that it would be
a bad idea but I was just wondering why it would be
a bad idea.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: it sounded like a great idea to me.
Tia: no, it's not recommended.
Russ: well, I'll hold off on my curiosity factors as
such.
Tia: uh-huh. You don't want to blow a hole in the
space-time fabric, even a minor, brief hole.
Russ: yeah, it would be inconvenient for everybody
concerned.
Tia: uh-huh.
Less: okay, fair enough. Okay, so now then, the
aspect of Korton there gave me a communication
device.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: does that device which the gap between third
and sixth?
Tia: I don't really know, you'll have to ask him.
Russ: if I catch up with him I'll ask him.
Tia: you can try.
Russ: yeah, that should work, okay. Am I taking up
too much time?
Tia: no, no, no, no, I've got some free time but I
would like to spend it after he gets through with
his meeting.
Russ: right, I'll have just enough time.
Tia: so we have time to kill.
Russ: okay. Now then, I noticed that when we left
Hades Base.....
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: that we needed mass amounts of energy to get
away from Hades Base.....
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: to escape the gravity well of Mars.
Tia: yeah.
Russ: now is there a better way to use the gravity
well to escape velocity?
Tia: no there isn't. Well not that I found. I did it
my way, the way that I've been doing it for quite a
while.
Russ: because I was thinking maybe you could circle
the planet or something to build up speed?
Tia: hmm, it's time-consuming and as your time and
energy was in doubt....
Russ: right.
Tia: it was deemed by myself to be more efficient
for you to go a direct approach.
Russ: okay, I was afraid and I didn't want to lose
too much energy getting there.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: but things seemed to go well once I got off
the gravity well and started into actual space.
Tia: yeah. But once you get more experience you can
use the slingshot effect. But you've got to be
careful because it does tend to wrap around a bit.
Russ: oh. Okay, well maybe you can show me that
sometime.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: okay. Now, the city on Centauri was much
bigger than Hades Base was.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: that's in the sixth dimension, right?
Tia: it in a few dimensions I believe.
Russ: oh. Okay, well is there like a name for this
base I can use for a reference point?
Tia: How about Centauri Base?
Russ: Centauri Base, that works.
Tia: uh-huh. Or possibly Alpha Base? No, Centauri
sounds better.
Russ: yeah, Centauri sounds better.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: Alpha base sounds too much like a movie or
something.
Tia: yeah, it does a bit. Perhaps you ought to make
one.
Russ: that's an idea. Now I noticed that it was
outside.....
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: on the planet's surface.
Tia: on the surface instead of....
Russ: not artificial like Hades Base is.
Tia: uh-huh. Why?
Russ: right.
Tia: well the thing is that here we do not have that
much of an atmosphere outside.
Russ: right.
Tia: and it's mainly carbon dioxide outside which
isn't conducive to a healthy living atmosphere
whereas on Alpha Centauri it is.
Russ: right.
Tia: it's quite a rich oxygen atmosphere.
Russ: I was just surprised by the hugeness of
it.....
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: I mean it was just astounding.
Tia: well it's not limited by rock strata or
anything or density of rock.
Russ: but I mean the thing is though with something
that size, you'd have overcrowding, pollution, I'm
sure you don't have that up there but something like
that down here......
Tia: something like that down there would be but of
course management up here is a lot better and waste
is either used as fuel or recycled.
Russ: oh. Just a better idea of using it, that's for
sure.
Tia: uh-huh. Oh, of course.
Russ: okay. Now what was the cloud we went through
that surrounded Centauri? Was that like an exploded
planet or something?
Tia: you could say that. It's little meteors and
matter left over from the creation of the system.
All sorts of things really.
Russ: oh, they're kind of pretty.
Tia: uh-huh. Alpha Centauri has much more
gravitational pull than the sun that we orbit......
Russ: oh.
Tia: so therefore it tends to collect more.
Russ: ohh, so that's why.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: it doesn't affect the planet that the base is
on I take it.
Tia: no, nothing noticeable. If anything, it keeps
the temperature more conducive to a swimming
atmosphere.
Russ: now, I assume if we went to Alpha
Centauri......
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: we'd have a tough time finding any base there.
Tia: of course.
Russ: so we just land on it and it's just bare rock
or whatever's there.
Tia: yeah.
Russ: right, okay. Oh, here's one. Is the trips like
that going to be kind of part of our future
training?
Tia: yes, it will be.
Russ: will I be going with you then I take it?
Tia: either myself or if the channeler feels up to
it or possibly Korton if he has the time. But that
will be for real heavy duty instruction.
Russ: right, hands-on.
Tia: uh-huh. Hands-on, emergency situations, what to
do if caught and such and such a situation......
Russ: right.
Tia: you know.
Russ: got it.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: that was fun today. Now, should I make
arrangements first with you? Like set up a certain
timeframe to meet?
Tia: yeah, that would be better because sometimes I
have work to do......
Russ: yeah, I kind of hate dragging you away from
something.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: but it kind of felt right to just go.
Tia: yeah, at that particular time.
Russ: right.
Tia: is it possible that you called?
Russ: yeah, that's possible. I don't know, I
remember we called you when I first got to
Karra's.....
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: I did the negative feedback loop.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: but a little coercion was probably necessary
at some point there on me.....
Tia: uh-huh, probably.
Russ: by Tia.
Tia: I can neither confirm or deny any of this.
Russ: of course not.
Tia: I'm getting good at that, aren't I?
Russ: you are getting good at that.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: okay, but I'll try to make arrangements next
time.
Tia: okay.
Russ: set it through Karra or something.
Tia: uh-huh. Tomorrow wouldn't be advisable
hopefully.
Russ: I can't do it for the next couple days
actually.
Tia: no, that's all right, that's all right. I'm
just saying that somebody may be feeling goofy for a
little while.
Russ: oh.
Tia: as we're going skiing and I've got one of my
ski suits.
Russ: oh.
Tia: got my skis and boots and stuff sitting in a
corner.
Russ: really?
Tia: so......
Russ: well, if I get to Karra's room and you're not
available or something, I'll go scout the solar
system out....
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: and get more familiar with my neighborhood.
Tia: yeah.
Russ: that'd be a good idea too.
Tia: uh-huh, of course.
Russ: now, Karra doesn't farsight very well, does
she?
Tia: no, no.
Russ: so I can't take her.
Tia: no, she's limited a bit from one end of the
base to the other end. Probably about the length of
planet is her maximum reach.
Russ: well, maybe we should search the planet
sometime together.
Tia: yeah, she's a little bit better than
Kiri.......
Russ: hmm.
Tia: but, you know.
Russ: well you're just a farsighting giant then
compared to those two.
Tia: no, I'm not that good at farsighting. I'm just
an okay farsighter.
Russ: well, I don't think of you like that.
Tia: uh-huh, well thank you.
Russ: kept me very much confident and together the
whole time.
Tia: well, I do know my stuff on I suppose you could
call it medium range.
Russ: pretty decent.
Tia: that for me is getting long distancish.
Russ: well, that was long distance for me, that's
for sure.
Tia: uh-huh. But I am working on increasing my
capacity however somebody that I'd like to learn
from won't let me tag along.
Russ: well no, because then you'd be into his job
and that'd be a real trouble....
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: maybe we'll try a little practice together
when we get farther out.
Tia: because I do need to improve on my distancing.
Russ: well, join the club.
Tia: uh-huh. I mean I have traveled great distances
with Mark in the past but it takes so much out of
him and then he's kind of lacking in energy for a
while.
Russ: now, I used a lot of my own energy and I
didn't use any of yours, did I?
Tia: we'll let you work that one out for yourself.
Russ: okay. I don't want to drain you if I can help
it.
Tia: do I sound as if I've been drained?
Russ: yeah, you sound pretty actually up.
Tia: uh-huh. Sound very.....
Russ: wide awake?
Tia: professortorial.
Russ: okay.
Tia: and what was this about me wearing glasses
Russ: something about a professortorial type mood.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: pair of horn rimmed, down on your nose you
have to look over.
Tia: ahhhh.
Russ: okay, now then when I got back, I had this
really disoriented feeling...
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: I mean really almost wiped me out.
Tia: yeah.
Russ: that's not going to be the normal, is it?
Tia: to start off with, unfortunately it will be.
Russ: oh man, it just about wiped me out.
Tia: but it's a matter of building up stamina. If
you want to achieve this goal, then that's what you
have to do.
Russ: well it's worth it, I'll give it that.
(Tia clears Mark's throat)
Russ: okay....
Tia: is there a spittoon around? Just kidding.
Russ: okay. Yeah, is there a way I can
maybe..........a technique maybe you guys use or
something to lessen that a bit?
Tia: yes, there is one.
Russ: what's that?
Tia: practice.
Russ: well, we'll just have to keep practicing.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: okay. And then the other part I had was that
the astral body.....
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: took quite a while to assimilate back into the
physical body.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: it felt like it was still separated even after
I had gotten back.
Tia: yes?
Russ: is that just because it's still kind of loose
in my body there....
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: shaking around trying to get itself back in
order?
Tia: uh-huh. And you're also interested in how to
overcome that feeling. Again, practice. The more you
do it, the more easier it becomes.
Russ: oh, okay.
Tia: it is like swimming.
Russ: okay.
Tia: or skiing.
Russ: right.
Tia: the more you do it, the easier it gets, the
better you get.
Russ: yeah. So it's not really a problem.
Tia: no.
Russ: per se. Even though it feels like a problem
it's not.
Tia: uh-huh, that's right.
Russ: okay. I was feeling pretty wonky after that
session.
Tia: oh, practice.
Russ: right. Okay.
Tia: just remember not to stand up in a hurry.
Russ: on this one.....
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: what I did was, my feelings in my physical
body here on earth, I transferred to my astral
body....
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: so I would maintain focus. In other words,
anything I felt down here I felt there and actually
I just transferred like I was feeling it there.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: so I took my attention away from my physical
body and focused it more on my astral where it
should be.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: the problem I still have is with my hearing. I
can still hear down here in the physical. Trying to
get that breakaway point. Still haven't found the
key for that one.
Tia: okay, you're switching off the chakras and
taking the deep breaths.....
Russ: I'm not switching off the chakras.
Tia: no sorry, not the chakras, just the legs.
Russ: yeah, just got the legs and the deep
breaths...
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: right.
Tia: and killing the internal dialogue?
Russ: trying to.
Tia: trying to. Keep on practicing on that because
once you achieve that shut off, then you will be
able to make that break easy.
Russ: okay.
(Russ whistles)
Russ: that's a tough one.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: okay. I guess we can get that worked out as we
go along here.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: was the switching the physical feelings down
here in the astral good technique then?
Tia: it is one that is useful to use.
Russ: okay. Unless I have to suffer with the hearing
part....
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: I can get that internal dialogue to stop.
Tia: yeah.
Russ: okay. Now then, how much farther it is from
where we went to Alpha Centauri to the bat planet?
Oh, you wouldn't know that.
Tia: no, as about to say, what is the bat planet?
Russ: right. It's best to ask Mark when he gets
back.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: now Korton asked me about the energy that I
used to get to where I was going.
Russ: he told me the problem with
that..........problem with what? How I got the
energy or how I use the energy?
Tia: how you got the energy and how you used it.
Russ: both of those.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: oh, okay. Now.....
Tia: Korton asked you to think on it, then it best
that you do so.
Russ: right.
Tia: not at the moment because it detracts from your
work.
Russ: right. Okay, well I'm just wondering since you
were there.....
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: do I need to drag more energy?
Tia: I'm not quite sure what Korton meant by that.
Russ: okay, well then what you were watching....
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: my progress there, some pointers good, bad,
what could I have done to improve?
Tia: you were bleeding quite a bit of energy. One
thing to do would be to keep yourself much more
efficient on energy and to do this, you would need
to be not as fuzzy around the edges. More
crystalline, more clear.
Russ: hmmm.
Tia: you do that by centering the energy.
Russ: centering the energy?
Tia: yeah.
Russ: the central point on my body you mean?
Tia: uh-huh. You're pulling the energy in so
therefore the outer part is not as fuzzy around the
edges. It is not like a piece of wool.
Russ: oh, so that's what you mean about bleeding.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: okay.
Tia: because if you're fuzzy around the edges then
you're losing energy, that is the reason why you
have to suck in so much energy and collect so much
energy.
Russ: ohhhh. So I didn't need to collect as much as
I did......
Tia: uh-huh, well you did.......
Russ: if I had been more efficient.
Tia: yeah. If you had been more efficient wouldn't
have.
Russ: okay. So, that's my point I need to get to....
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: using energy more efficiently.
Tia: yes.
Russ: now, can you describe for me the possible
steps to that? In other words, okay, say I'm
traveling.....
Tia: okay, we're in motion.
Russ: in motion, I'm in space traveling faster and
faster. Okay, now the energy is coming at me.....
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: or traveling through it let's say, the
particles and such.....
Tia: okay.
Russ: okay, and drawing this into me.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: now, what I was doing was just drawing it into
the whole body. Is there a central spot I should be
soaking into then?
Tia: yes, it is really up to you where to center it.
You could center it on the heart chakra, on the
crown chakra or the base or any chakra you wish but
center it on one of those you must.
Russ: okay.
Tia: and then what you do is you feed the energy up
through those chakras above or below so that the
energy is then evenly distributed but you have to
center it.
Russ: ahhh. Okay, good, good, good.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: good, handy tips here I've got to know.
Tia: yeah. The best way to describe it would be a
bit like one of your rocket ships that went to the
moon?
Russ: uh-huh.
Tia: and the various stages. When you start off
with, you use the base chakra by the first part and
when that is discharged of energy use the next one
and so on up. But because you are sucking in energy,
you can replace it. What might be best to do is
whilst you're expending energy from one chakra, the
ones below you can recharge.
Russ: well, a better analogy might be one of our jet
airplanes. They have big air scoops.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: what they do is they travel and the faster
they go or however fast they go, they suck air in
through this air scoop....
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: focuses it into the engine where it mixes it
with the fuel....
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: is exploded and pushed out the back.
Tia: yeah, uh-huh.
Russ: so, instead of pushing out the back, maybe
pushing out to the chakras....
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: would be a good way to do it. Suck in like the
air scoop, explode into the different chakras....
Tia: hmmm, yeah, that would be a better analogy.
Russ: okay. Because I need something I can picture
in my mind to make it work better.
Tia: uh-huh, okay. Any more questions for me?
Russ: uh-uh, all through.
Tia: okay, I want to go and take a nice bath and
then get myself all spruced up and then go skiing?
Russ: well you've had a busy day.
Tia: uh-huh. Well I need to relax and I'm going
skiing.
Russ: all right.
Tia: question.
Russ: yeah.
Tia: which feline is this sitting down by the left
leg?
Russ: by the chair over there? That's Calvin.
Tia: hmm.
Russ: the little orange haired......
Tia: the little monster.
Russ: that's the one.
Tia: perhaps you ought to bring him farsighting with
you sometime?
Russ: I'll see if I can get him going with me.
Tia: uh-huh. He has done it before you know to hear.
Russ: oh yeah, that's right, he did once, didn't he?
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: I forgot about that.
Tia: yep.
Russ: well he's pretty content to be just laying
there so maybe he wouldn't mind taking a trip.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: well, I'll try bringing him along the next
time.
Tia: okay. Well not necessarily the next time, when
you become more efficient.
Russ: right. Use his energy at some point for me.
Tia: yeah.
Verse: okay, thank you very much for your help this
morning Tia. I appreciate it immensely.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: very valuable lessons.
Tia: okay?
Russ: okay.
Tia: so, I'm going to make like a stick of dynamite
and the flock out of here.
Russ: right on the money.
Tia: nevermind.
(Russ laughs)
Russ: bye-bye.
(Kiri gets in her time
channeling)
Kiri: yo.
Russ: yo Kiri.
Kiri: hey.
Russ: hey, how's it going?
Kiri: you know.
Russ: I know.
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: the usual, you're kind of flopping around like
a whale?
Kiri: uh-huh. Trying to do some shake,
rattling, and rolling but it ain't working.
Russ: the roll part might work.
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: lay on the ground and kind of turn you in
circles.
Kiri: yeah.
Russ: so how is the monster?
Kiri: I'm having a whale of a time.
Russ: that's fine. Is the pregnancy everything you
thought it would be?
Kiri: and then some.
Russ: and then some.
Kiri: yeah.
Russ: are you still glad about it though?
Kiri: uh-huh. Of course, it's a very interesting
experience having a whole new life growing inside
you.
Russ: well that's good. About this point, most women
are hating men for putting them in that position in
the first place.
Kiri: hmm, why should I hate anybody?
Russ: well, you wouldn't of course......
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: because you're worth it.
Kiri: well, thank you.
Russ: I'm glad things are working out for you.
Kiri: well, thank you.
Russ: anyway, I just got through with a long, long,
long session with Tia.....
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: about our fun little farsighting session this
morning.
Kiri: yeah.
Russ: but Mark went looking for you earlier but you
were crashed out.
Kiri: uh-huh. Yes, I have been getting sleepy.
Russ: well, That's probably part of the process.
Kiri: uh-huh. Also been getting a little bit bad
tempered.
Russ: hmmm, yeah, I remember that from last time.
Kiri: uh-huh. Well, you were a little
bit...........what's the word? Well, nevermind.
Russ: right, okay.
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: well, everything's going good now.
Kiri: yeah.
Russ: getting farsighting down to a fine science.
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: going to practice my coercion tomorrow.
Kiri: oh, that's right, you've got to go to your
place of....
Russ: but it's good practice.
Kiri: okay.
Russ: right, so what else is up?
Kiri: apart from me?
Russ: yeah. Getting down to the wire.
Kiri: well, I've got about two months and
three......well, four days roughly.
Russ: right.
Kiri: it's a long way to go, you know? Two months,
three weeks and four days.
Russ: well at that point, we'll be out of winter
down here and the ski season will be over but we can
still go up there and go practice with you guys.
Kiri: well, we've got to figure out some kind of
season up here for the plants and everything, you
know.
Russ: well, you can use our schedule.
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: we have seasons that are pretty well spaced
out to allow our plants to grow.
Kiri: ahhh.
Russ: so about two months more or less from now, our
snow will start melting and we'll be back to
springtime again and everything starts growing
again.
Kiri: how about making it four months up here?
Russ: that'll work.
Kiri: so I get at least a month of skiing in.
Russ: that's true. Yeah, you'll be your feet for a
month afterwards.
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: okay, so now, what do we do about putting a
golf course up there?
Kiri: ha.
(Russ laughs loudly)
Kiri: 'tis a phallic sport.
Russ: is it?
Kiri: well, balls and a golf club.
Russ: I've never quite looked at it from that point
of view before.
Kiri: well, you're a guy, aren't you?
Russ: yeah.
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: phallic sport, Mark will love that one.
Kiri: okay?
Russ: right, that's it.
Kiri: that's it? No questions for me or anything?
Russ: Kiri, that's all the questions I had for you.
How you're doing, how's things up there, the whole
nine yards, find out what your life's like. Other
than that, my coercion and stuff doesn't start until
tomorrow so I won't have any questions about that
until our next session.
Kiri: okay.
Russ: wait a minute, I do have a question for
you........
Kiri: uh-huh?
Russ: concerning coercion.
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: when I'm settled down into what I want to use
for a coercive sentence....
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: is there a way I can just condense it to one
word and fire that one word off real short and
quick?
Kiri: well, it depends what it is that you want to
do. If you want somebody to pick up a.....what's it
you do, you're a bar back?
Russ: uh-huh, right.
Kiri: which means that you work somewhere with
alcoholic beverages?
Russ: right.
Kiri: so you need some way of chilling the stuff
which would be snow or ice. If you were to ask
somebody to get a bucket of......
Russ: ice?
Kiri: yeah, get a bucket of ice, you'd say, hmmm,
that would be difficult.
Russ: right, you see? That's my problem.
Kiri: hmmm.
Russ: trying to put a whole bunch of words into just
one.
Kiri: ice bucket here? Three words instead of about
six or seven?
Russ: fetch.
Kiri: fetch ice.
Russ: fetch ice.
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: that would be better.
Kiri: yeah, see, you have to break it down.
Russ: okay.
Kiri: okay?
Russ going good, thank you.
Kiri: ciao.
Russ: ciao.
(Omal wraps up this side of the tape)
Omal: greetings Russ.
Russ: grieving Omal.
Omal: and how is it functioning?
Russ: well, you came through without even a whisper.
Omal: taking lessons from the stealth.
Russ: the stealth Tia.
Omal: just kidding. Actually, we were in two minds
whether or not to channel.
Russ: oh.
Omal: so we tiptoed in and thought about it and time
to do the channeling thing.
Russ: well good, it's been a while since I've heard
from you actually.
Omal: let's see if we can get this right.........
SIDE
ONE ENDS
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SIDE TWO
(Omal gets the session wrapped
up early)
Russ: February 6th, 93, farsighting lesson 2.5.
Omal: two.
Russ: part two.
Omal: or side two.
Russ: or side two.
Omal: okay, are we doing this in stereo?
Russ: yeah, right.
Omal: if we're doing it in stereo, then I walk
from this speaker here to that speaker over there.
(Russ laughs)
Omal: and here we are. If I'm still back over at
that speaker then here we are.
Russ: Monty Python now.
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: where do you get this stuff? I'll never
figure it out.
Omal: accessing files.
Russ: boy, you're quick.
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: okay.....
Omal: well it's actually on the top of this one.
It's actually a drawer or on its own, Python
humor.
Russ: ahhh. Wow, that's a quick one for you to
pick up then.
Omal: hmm, we try.
Russ: it's a good effort. What's up?
Omal: the sky, stars, the moon, the planets,
clouds, water molecules, dust particles.......
Russ: okay, okay, okay.
Omal: okay, down to business.
Russ: down to business.
Omal: okay, I believe it's farsighting is the
scheduled topic of interest.
Russ: you betcha.
Omal: Tia covered energy, techniques, conserving
energy, everything that I can think of to discuss
is set for later scheduling, later sessions.
Russ: oh, okay.
Omal: do you have anything for me?
Russ: yes, as a matter of fact.
Omal: okay.
Russ: what can I do next to work on farsighting
for more solidity down here let's say. For just
short little practice sessions. Instead of going
all the way to Hades Base, maybe having to drag
Tia away from something....
Omal: you can go out and check other groups, other
organizations that are a known destination, your
place of origin, Sedona......
Russ: yeah.
Omal: Stanford. The University of Edinburgh,
University of Tokyo, University in Cambridge,
University of New Hampshire, other places where
they are working on this. The University of
Beijing where they're trying to learn the reasons
why, not the how's.
Russ: wow.
Omal: or the Gilligan's. Picked that one up from
you.
Russ: good one, that's a really good one. Okay, I
see what you mean. So there's a lot of stuff I
could do that would be very helpful.
Omal: uh-huh, yes.
Russ: okay. Yeah, this will work because what I'm
trying to do is find places I would be able to
find on my own without any help.....
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: and this shouldn't be too tough.
Omal: no.
Russ: I've never been there but I mean I know maps
and stuff. If I study a map I can figure out how
to get there.
Omal: uh-huh. You've got to remember, keep it
linear.
Russ: right. So in other words, I could plot the
stuff out, my trip.....
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: like a regular vacation kind of.
Omal: correct.
Russ: look on a map for point A to point B, find
landmarks like rivers...
Omal: uh-huh, longitude, latitude and find ways of
cutting down on the time and using high arc
parabolas and low arc parabolas and so on.
Russ: oh, okay, that would work.
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: what's the difference and why would it make
a difference?
Omal: we'll let you learn that.
Russ: of course, what was I thinking?
Omal: are you?
Russ: yes, as a matter of fact I am.
Omal: okay.
Russ: all right.
Omal: and then as you progress and can do this
more rapidly, then you can progress on to looking
at the dark side of the moon? See if you can spot
Mark there because that's where he says he goes.
Russ: okay, what about more tips on solidity. Got
anything for me?
Omal: that is for a later session.
Russ: oh good, so I shouldn't be rushing it right
now?
Omal: no. We're gonna take it nice and easy, one
step at a time. We will not rush into anything and
when we feel that it is necessary for you to take
a break and digest what you have learned, then we
shall do that. But in the meantime, we shall
progress as has been stated in the past. We may
alter and deviate from the flight plan.
Russ: okay.
Omal: and we use that for amusement, the term
flight plan.
Russ: right, that's very soon.
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: a lot of things you say I catch on the tapes
later on and it's just hilarious......
Omal: yes.
Russ: but at the time it was very serious to me.
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: but it was a joke......
Omal: yes.
Russ: that took a while to catch on until I've
heard a couple times.
Omal: uh-huh. And it will be flexible. We may
extend it depending on your progress or we may
shorten it depending on your progress.
Russ: okay.
Omal: but it all depends on the flexibility of the
studying schedule. When we feel that it is
necessary to break or to cram.
Russ: okay. It seems like today's session was a
bit of a cram.
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: in other words, I was expecting to get as
fast and as far as I did with Tia this morning.
I'm just barely getting to Hades Base and getting
comfortable up there and I'm going to Alpha
Centauri.
Omal: well for some it is like going to the next
room.
Russ: wow, okay.
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: so, just keep up the rate I'm going.
Omal: yes. It is best to progress slowly instead
of rapidly and then falling over and damaging
yourself.
Russ: right. Okay, so I'll stay with these little
short trips for now. Now, should I be looking then
to collaborate some of the stuff that I go out and
find?
Omal: collaborate?
Russ: for example, something I can go, say go to
Beijing, or Beijing I should say...
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: find something that I could maybe.....
Omal: I see. This is an incorrect use of the word.
Collaborate means to work somebody.
Russ: oh.
Omal: you mean to correlate.
Russ: correlate, correct.
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: right. Something like that. Is there a way
to do that?
Omal: yes, there is. You could drop by the
Imperial Palace, you can wander around the
Imperial Palace and then go and find a book on it.
The Forbidden City.
Russ: ahh, yes, right. Good idea. Or like
Edinburgh....
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: find the University of Edinburgh on the map,
track it down......
Omal: or, you can go and visit the castle there.
Russ: okay.
Omal: and then talk to the channeler as we're
having difficulty accessing that. Maybe not talk
to the channeler as we cannot get into it to.....
Russ: confirm.
Omal: confirm or deny what we suspect. Working on
hunches is a hard thing to do.
Russ: okay, well I'll be able to find a National
Geographic somewhere.
Omal: uh-huh. Okay, any more questions?
Russ: uh-uh, that's it.
Omal: okay, then this session is terminated.
Russ: okay.
Omal: and, I'll be back.
Russ: I'll be waiting.
Omal: okay.
Russ: thank you Omal, talk to you later.
(Kiri
gets the new channeling session started)
Russ: let me introduce everyone. You've already
met John and Nicole I believe. You guys were at a
session, weren't you?
John: I'm not sure.
Russ: well, this is John and Nicole and and in the
middle there is Alex.
Kiri: greetings, my son's called Alex.
Russ: that's true, yeah, I forgot about that.
Kiri: uh-huh, Alexander.
Russ: well, how's it going tonight?
Kiri: just beautiful.
Russ: you're doing just great.
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: good to hear it, good to hear it. Okay,
well, I've been working with explaining the
various functions of everyone up there......
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: and telling John here about your abilities
of using coercion and magic.
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: and I thought you might be able to fill us
in.
Kiri: well first of all we've got some business to
attend to.
Russ: all right.
Kiri: okay, tomorrow......
Russ: okay.
Kiri: what time is it?
Russ: 11 o'clock.
Kiri: that's your time, right.
Russ: yeah, that's what it's running.
Kiri: uh-huh. Okay so, about a half an hour before
you head on over, you've got to set up, come down
here, get everything set up and then off we'll go.
Russ: come again? You're going to be channeling
all the way over?
Kiri: well, we've got to set up because energy
levels are down.
Russ: so then we go over there.
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: okay.
Kiri: yeah.
Russ: well, this should be interesting.
Kiri: I prefer just before we leave.
Russ: okay. So about 10:30. All right, sounds
good. And then, are you going to be......you'll be
there inside Mark the whole time we're there?
Kiri: uh-huh, pretty much so.
Russ: this should be interesting.
Kiri: uh-huh, it's going to be a team effort.
Russ: well now you remember Barry, the guy who is
going to be there, is from England.
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: so there might be some select questions
about England that might be coming up probably.
Kiri: we'll see what we can do.
Russ: Mark's brain is kind of set up for access if
you need.
Kiri: that's why we're going to start earlier.
Russ: okay, fair enough.
John: so this one is to what?
Kiri: we're going to monitor and check out and
scan and see what's happening. See what energies
it's giving off, what these people are like, make
sure everything is safe, and feed Russ questions.
Russ: but see yeah, Kiri and Karra will be
channeling.
John: oh, really?
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: yeah. We've only done this once, there was
that time coming back from the concert. Really,
the way you.....
Kiri: Floyd Pink.
Russ: what?
Kiri: Floyd Pink?
Russ: Floyd Pink.
(Russ chuckles)
Kiri: how would you say, totally rad and gnarly
dude? Real coolness.
John: so is he staying here while you go over, no?
Russ: well, we'll need the body.
Kiri: uh-huh. It'll just be a hollow shell with us
keeping him on his toes.
Russ: well, he'll probably have fun anyway.
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: that's good. Okay, now that that business is
out of the way, want to work a little bit, like I
was saying to John, about coercion and magic.
Kiri: oh, magic.
Russ: yeah.
Kiri: now you see it, now you don't.
Russ: he's going to Las Vegas make his fame and
fortune and I thought you might be able to give
them a slight dissertation on coercion.
Kiri: ohhh.
Russ: maybe you can work with him to practice
possibly.
Kiri: okay, most important rule. When you're using
coercion, it's for good only or tends to rebound
back on you.
John: three times more?
Kiri: sorry?
John: three times more?
Kiri: oh, and then some.
John: yeah.
Kiri: uh-huh. So, it's for good only and how you
do it is quite simple is you look the person
directly in the eyes, both eyes, eyes to eyes and
thn you think of what you want them to do. And
it's got to be for beginning really simple. You
want to let the cat in?
Russ: the cat wants in, good.
Kiri: yeah, demonstration.
John: it's called corrosion?
Kiri: coercion. Okay, put him down. Right, now, in
a minute.......there, got him.......he's gonna
come over here to me. Not quite. His
inquisitiveness is more in tune with what's going
on.
Russ: well, you are trying to do this over 93
million miles.
Kiri: uh-huh. But, you see how I got him to try to
sit down if you noticed and he got up and walked
across. I wanted him to come up this way. Still,
that's about 50% pass rate I suppose. Is that
acceptable?
Russ: better than I can do.
Kiri: but coercion, the principle of coercion is
controlling an individual with your mind. You
picture the words in your head. For example for a
beginner, if you want somebody to come towards
you, you go come. You look directly into their
eyes and say this word in your mind. Don't say it
out aloud, you say it in your mind, come. If
you've got eye contact, then you can frame it just
correctly so it slips into their subconscious
without them realizing, they'll come towards you.
And the best thing to do is to practice on simple
things like felines, people that aren't that
intelligent, young children, very useful. Unless
of course their coercive abilities are stronger
than yours. Which has been known. Now, do you have
questions? Because it's easier for me to explain
than give a dissertation.
John: not at all. It's good stuff but....
Russ: well, maybe you can answer me a question.
One of the things when working with like a larger
group of people as we were talking about one time
is the fact that we have to work with a tighter
beam with a single person....
Kiri: yes.
Russ: then spread it out on a wider beam for a
larger group of people.
Kiri: uh-huh. When you're working with a larger
group of people, if you look at some of your great
orators of your time..........let me
think........Kennedy, how he gets people, or how
we got people to think it was so great, is not
just by what he said but by his actions whilst
he's talking to them. If you look at some of your
dictators of the first half of your century,
thirty-nine, is that right?
Russ: uh-huh, Nuremberg.
Kiri: yeah, Nuremberg. How the gentleman concerned
used his hands and his voice to stir the hearts of
the people by using ceremonies at nighttime and
bright colored flags and fire.
John: really?
Kiri: yeah. I believe the rally that Russ referred
to was, if I got my information correct and
correct me if I'm wrong, it was held at nighttime
and they had the blood banners and the
swastikas..........do you know what the swastikas
are?
Russ: hmmmm.....
Kiri: they are a sign for the cycle of life. If
you notice when you look at them, right? It's a
cross with legs across it and if you were to turn
it into a circle, it would connect like a wheel
and it is the cycle of life.
Russ: hmmm. Now one thing is I've seen a lot of
magicians and stuff work outside......
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: they usually work at night using flames and
lots of props, all kinds of stuff like that. And
then the crowd is just absorbed. Their whole
attention is focused on one thing.
Kiri: uh-huh. That's all part of the trick is to
get them focused on one thing. And if you are
talking to a lot of people, not performing but
talking, you get them to focus on you, then their
minds are open. If they start focusing on you,
they're sending you energy waves that you can use
and manipulate to enhance your energy.
John: ohh.
Kiri: but in those situations you have to be very,
very careful because the energy can be like a bad
wine.
Russ: it's like when you went with on the Grateful
Dead and you watch them, you can feel
the energy flowing to the band. The band
just uses that to just make a great show because
they feed off that energy and put it back to the
crowd. But, at the same time it's kind of fun to
feel all that energy at the concert. And when
you're really consciously aware of what the energy
is about and where it's going and what it's doing,
you can use it yourself to charge yourself up.
John: so what's the time period for when you start
off at first?
Kiri: it depends, it depends on how well you
progress, you see?
Russ: you can't judge your own.
Kiri: uh-huh. If you feel you're not getting
anywhere with cats, you go to something like mice
and work from there.
Russ: yeah, but you see, John's already got an
advantage.
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: he's got a head start on everybody.
Kiri: on stage practice.
Russ: absolutely, because your whole deal is
directing attention. Like with the cigarette,
you're directing attention at one place, while
you're actually doing something somewhere else.
And so, that's how the whole trick works. And so
you've already got something where we don't even
have that ability yet to get that contact going.
John: I see what you're saying.
Russ: see, you might progress twice as fast as I
would.
John: oh.
Kiri: now, coercion is not everybody's capability
but if you have it, it's good to practice with it
and learn how to use it for good because if you
use it for wrong and harm, it will come back and
haunt you hugely.
Russ: right.
John: it's universal law basically.
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: that's it. But see a lot of people can't
relate to something like coercion and they don't
know they have it. And until they start training
to find out if they've got it or not, they might
never know. See like me, I'm not real strong in
it, I'm strong in other areas. I can use it and
like make it work but I'm not like she is.
Kiri: but yeah, that was an example of coercion on
a cat.
John: hmm.
Kiri: I finally got its attention and it was easy.
Russ: are cats good at coercion between each
other?
Kiri: between each other, yes.
Russ: I mean Calvin working on you?
Kiri: have you got cats?
Nicole: I do, yes.
Kiri: have you ever had your cat outside? When
it's sitting on the window and it wants in, can
you feel it saying I want in? Or the eyes boring
into your head wanting in?
Russ: oh.
Nicole: yeah.
Kiri: and what do you do?
Nicole: let him in.
Kiri: uh-huh. So, that's why you practice with a
cat, it's a challenge. Challenge of wills.
Russ: right, dogs would be too easy. But anyway,
yeah, I see what you're talking about.
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: cats would be a different story.
Kiri: yes, because if you're already a coercer,
you need something of a challenge to increase your
ability. Because each time you succeed, it's a
good boost for your ego and also increases your
capacity.
Russ: right, because it's like a muscle. The more
you use it the stronger it gets.
Nicole: I have a question.
Kiri: uh-huh.
Nicole: you just use one word like just say
come...
Kiri: correct.
Nicole: and they just come?
Kiri: to start off with.
Nicole: yeah.
Kiri: uh-huh, until you get very proficient at it
where you can say come here, sit down, roll over,
beg, jump in the bath. You start off with a simple
one word to start off with, then two, and then
four, and then eight and you can double up.
Russ: right. And then later on you can get like
shields where you don't have to have eye contact
anymore and you can just when their backs are
turned, right?
Kiri: not quite telepathically. It's more of a
compulsion to do something.
Russ: hmm, I guess telepathy is pretty different.
Kiri: yes, telepathy is one person actually hears
the words and wonders what's going on. But with
coercion, they don't hear the words, it's just a
compulsion to do something. It doesn't matter how
minor it is. Whether it's to sit down, stand up.
Things that take more energy, you have to be
better at it. Let's see as an example. Getting
somebody to do something that is totally against
their will. For example, getting them to put a
hand in very hot water. That's a long thought
group and to get them to do that you have to be
extremely strong. But that's also a negative,
getting them to put their hands in hot water.
Russ: right, but the same thing though.....
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: somebody who doesn't want to do something...
Kiri: I couldn't think of a good enough example.
John: words can only get better and better if the
coming back to you.
Kiri: yes, but you've got to be careful because if
you use it wrong and I can't stress it enough, it
will come back to haunt you.
Russ: right.
John: so wouldn't be too wise to practice this and
keep doing drugs.
Kiri: no, because sometimes the negative aspect of
doing artificial stimuli can creep in.
John: true.
Kiri: examples of bad coercers, I don't mean
people that can't do it very well but in a
negative way are con men, politicians. Okay,
anymore questions.
John: no.
Russ: all out for now. Maybe later because you're
ring mistress for the night?
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: but Tia's not going to practice in a crowd
then?
Kiri: no.
Russ: okay.
Kiri: she's off down to the med lab.
Russ: okay.
Kiri: no more questions?
Russ: that's it for me. I'm going to let the cat
in from outside so it doesn't become a distraction
otherwise.
John: thank you for that follow-up.
Kiri: oh yeah, no problem. It's coolness. Yeah,
I'll be back and forth.
Russ: okay.
(Omal uses up the rest of the
tape)
Omal: greetings.
Russ: greetings Omal. Introductions all around.
Omal: Nicole, Alex, John, Russ, feline.
(The crowd chuckles)
Russ: yep, you got it. Not bad. Anyway, I already
explained that you are in charge up there....
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: and we've got some questions concerning
some......
Omal: ah yes, okay, proceed.
Russ: okay, working on the light sound tech, these
are the learning machine breakthroughs they're
called......
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: okay? This is using pulsed light.....
Omal: a kind of posthypnotic suggestion aid for
learning.
Russ: absolutely. And also for putting
someone...........going into a deeper state,
Alpha, Zeta.....
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: from whatever regular waking state would be
and hopefully staying conscious throughout it.
Omal: yes, it is a process of hypnosis.
Russ: uh-huh. Now this is becoming really a
greater aid to bringing technology into the realm
of higher consciousness.
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: any information you can impart on this?
Omal: yes, relax and enjoy it.
Russ: okay.
John: oh.
Omal: let your mind open up and enjoy the
experience.
Russ: hmm.
Omal: do not get addicted.
Russ: okay. How much real benefits can you achieve
out of these do you think?
Omal: for teaching aid, it depends on what
material is used.
Russ: right.
Omal: what material are you planning to use
because at present I lack information on how you
wish to proceed with this.
Russ: okay, well let me give you some examples
here that they put in some of these ads. Because
we'll be getting more information before we decide
what to do anything about this but some of the
things in here that it says are like expanding
psychic powers, attracting prosperity, super Zen
states, lucid dreaming, super intuition,
imagination stimulator, learning accelerator,
brain tuneup, virtual visualization, this kind of
thing.
Omal: does it give you any detailed information on
these possibilities of enlargement of your brain
capacity?
Russ: John?
John: yes.
Omal: okay, sit up and speak.
John: like what does it have?
Omal: what is the detailed data that it has
please?
John: okay, well....
Russ: like how much potential maybe does it say?
John: it says the deeper you get, the more you
make your own program. It doesn't run on
programming, it runs on how deep you go.
Omal: how deep meaning what?
John: lights when you put on the goggles.....
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: oh, I see, it just.....
John: all the light patterns you experience
basically.
Russ: right, because the strobe effect of the
lights directly....
Omal: ahh, strobes.
Russ: right, they directly work on the cerebral
cortex.
John: lights and sound.....
Russ: and then sound pulses along with the strobe
effect.
John: exactly. Just like being at a concert.
Omal: hmm, it sounds like a primitive artificial
enhancement unit.
John: yes.
Russ: for the third dimension, yet. But
essentially....
Omal: of course it state-of-the-art for you.
Russ: right, yeah.
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: yeah, taking it like I say into how deep do
you want to go? There's some like I was mentioning
to John that are hooked up right to a biofeedback
that monitor dominant brain wave patterns going
through and then it has a targeted brainwave
pattern you wish to get.
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: and it will adjust the strobe effect to
achieve that. Once you reach that, it will keep it
at that point.
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: it will take you down to that point first.
Omal: you are of sound, mental health.
Russ: that's a debatable issue but sort of.
Omal: uh-huh.
John: another example is twelve settings, you use
light meditation, relaxation, creative energy.
Russ: so the question is, is on the Theta
basis....
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: if you were being fed information while
you're in a Theta state, is this information then
fed into your subconscious or your conscious?
John: conscious.
Omal: conscious and subconscious.
Russ: oh really?
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: so you would be in a Theta state and you
would be conscious at the same time?
Omal: yes.
Russ: hmm, so that's more or less like what
meditation does....
Omal: yes.
Russ: on a normal basis. Instead of spending years
of trying to learn that the mindset and in our
20th century rush world, we will achieve that
through this.
Omal: correct.
Russ: oh, okay.
Omal: it is a process of learning the experience,
learning how to control and manipulate the
information that you receive.
Russ: uh-huh.
Omal: it is a little bit like a channeling session
without using other entities.
Russ: okay....
Omal: it connects your conscious and subconscious
together to process information that is then
passed on and planted for further use or use
almost immediately.
Russ: okay, I see. So, two questions I have then
on that same vein is first off, would that be an
effective form of working on astral projection?
Omal: eventually.
Russ: okay. Because that's the key to asked
projection is getting to a higher state of mind.
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: and the other one is, are you able to get in
touch then with your guides through this. Like you
say, it's like a channeling?
Omal: one of the uses for it is and they would be
available for you to get in contact with depending
on what state of mind you're in.
Russ: so, it's like people who go into deep
meditation like the gurus do or the Zen masters,
they're able to talk to their guides once they
reached this deep, deep state but there still
conscious throughout it.
Omal: yes.
Russ: I see, so 20th century technology has given
us....
John: it's going to make it easy to reach that
state.
Russ: connecting East and West.
John: exactly.
Russ: Eastern mysticism with Western technology.
Omal: that is a crude way of putting it but
basically yes.
(Everyone laughs)
Omal: do not knock your own society for not having
mysticism, it does.
Russ: that's true. It gets lost though in the
hustle and bustle though. Okay, excellent. Right,
and then what I'm looking at now also is the next
phase of that is taking that and working in a
pyramid form.
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: would the pyramid you feel having added a
bonuses to that?
Omal: it would work as a containment field.
Russ: containing field? For containing your
consciousness?
Omal: yes.
Russ: and so adding crystals and such into that
same field would be ineffective field.
Omal: yes.
Russ: okay.
Omal: it is best to start off with just the
pyramid.
Russ: okay.
Omal: and then proceeding, adding one crystal at a
time and monitoring the effects.
Russ: I see. Now, when you reach a Theta state,
your subconscious is being controlled by your
conscious, correct?
Omal: correct.
Russ: so for self-healing, you would be able to
program in theoretical your subconscious to work
healing on a conscious level.
Omal: correct. It can also be used to program to
stop addictions.
John: exactly.
Russ: oh yeah, that's what Carrie was asking me
about, stopping smoking.
Omal: yes.
(Russ laughs)
Omal: two people could use it.
Russ: I think Karra just fed me that question.
Omal: do we have any other smokers.
Nicole: no.
Omal: Nicole, non-smoker?
Russ: oh, so....
Omal: very good. It's very harmful for you.
John: she is the wild one Nicole.
Russ: uh-huh. Okay, so we've got a good basis to
get working on here. I'm waiting for more
information to come through but this is the kind
of stuff that you probably won't get in the
information realm.
Omal: possibly. But detailed analysis before you
proceed is very useful on what you wish to learn.
If you take what you wish to learn and how it
weaves him with this technology...
Russ: uh-huh.
Omal: and see how it interacts. It will help
you....
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