The Psychic Hunters Via Ashtar and a Nun Speaks-

Channeled (04/17/1996)

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Archivist Notes: As the snow melts up here in the Sierra Mountains, it is a sign of Spring and also a very special channeling session from the members of Ashtar Command on Hades Base. Two very honored guest speakers join the usual speakers with one who had nave yet spoken on tape. We will provide more details later but we hop you enjoy this incredible session.   
In love, light, and wisdom as one,
Russ and Karra

TIA- Ring Mistress


1.)(0:00)- Tia explains how Mark's cat make the trip to the base in her astral body and goes over a discussion on the politics of the country at the time. She explains fiscal policy and solutions on the debt.
2.)(18:53)- Ashtar clears up for me Mark's role as one of  group of hunters who use their psychic skills to help do good. We also go over how to help grow the New Age and the three great ages of the Earth.
3.)(34:38)- Tia returns and she answers a question I didn't ask Ashtar regarding unsustainable growth. Any collapse that might occur would be for evolution's sake for good or bad.


1.)(0:00)- Kiri explains that her grandmother had just channeled and why. We also discuss greenhouse designs and Kiri's early life with her grandmother.
2.)(8:11)- Alana and consider that her daughter is Kiri and Karra's grandmother's daughter as well from a past life. We also learn that Kiri and Karra's dad has a new girlfriend who encourages him to get a rejuve.
3.)(10:57)- Karra gets met the schedule of events between a fitting for our bonding ceremony as well as a ceremony being held to welcome her grandmother to the base.
4.)(20:48)- Kiri updates me on the welcome ceremony preparations of which Mark was taking a part in making happen. Lyka is expected back to the base soon and a party was being planned.
5.)(33:05)- Tia clears up how her very young daughter was able to pull off the manifestation trick of the night to maintain decorum. Then we see the very lack of it shortly a bit later.
6.)(38:20)- Karra wraps up the channeling session by considering to use a hologram she had of me to use for the fitting of my suit instead of needing me there in person. We are also amazed we heard Minerva.

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(Tia starts us on a very unusual night of channeling)

Tia: okay, down to business. Okay, now there are a few things to clear up from last week, okay? One of them is manipulating energy.

Russ: okay.

Tia: okay? Which comes with practice. Also, we will discuss that after Ashtar has his two pence worth. Okay, now this is an unusual channeling session for the simple reason that there is only Ashtar and myself here.

Russ: that's unusual.

Tia: very unusual. And also the fact that it's starting very early whilst it's still bright and shiny out there.

Russ: it is kind of.

Tia: uh-huh, so that's two unusual things. Okay, now you have questions for me? I believe we were going to work on something else. I'm trying to remember but I can't. Oh, Kiri designs.

Russ: yeah.

Tia: oh. I like that one.

Russ: I like that one there.

Tia: hmm, so do I.

Russ: I like this one very well.

Tia: which one?

Russ: this one.

Tia: yeah, I've got one similar to that one as well, but that one there is by far my favorite. To those who are just listening, bikini designs by Kiri.

Russ: and signed by her also.

Tia: uh-huh. What's the name underneath? Ahh.

Russ: Lady Karra.

Tia: Lady Karra, huh?

Russ: yeah.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, now, I assume the Egyptians had the first cats as a domestic animal.

Tia: uh-huh. In fact, you have one of the first.....well descendant of one of the first cats in your house.

Russ: oh, Monga.

Tia: no.

Russ: who?

Tia: try again.

Russ: Ganja?

Tia: no.

Russ: what, Calvin?

Tia: no.

Russ: the dominant one up there?

Tia: yes. Do you know what she is?

Russ: what?

Tia: she's an Egyptian Mau. Purebred.

Russ: no way.

Tia: uh-huh. More purebred than that one up there.

Russ: no.

Tia: that's a Russian blue. Egyptian Mau are very rare.

Russ: really?

Tia: uh-huh. She has all the characteristics of a close breeding gene pool.

Russ: too bad she's spayed.

Tia: there would be a lot of money in her if she was......wasn't but she's too old now. Much too old but she's a purebred. Mark doesn't know how much of a purebred she is. I've talked to her, she knows.

Russ: hmm, okay. That's a good subject, how do you mean she knows? How would she know for example?

Tia: she's not so much of a dummy as you think she is.

Russ: well, that's why am asking so I can be enlightened.

Tia: Joey is a very operant cat.

Russ: okay, why does she hide it so well?

Tia: because she is not sure of it. She doesn't know how to use it properly. She's a coercer, mind you, all cats are coercers but she's got hers well developed. Notice how she wraps everybody underneath her finger.

Russ: if you can ever get close to the kitty.

Tia: uh-huh, that's part of not being sure.

Russ: oh, I see.

Tia: uh-huh. She astral travels.

Russ: that's right.

Tia: uh-huh. She doesn't come up here very often for the simple reason she scared of here.

Russ: well none of the cats beat up on her.

Tia: no, they leave her alone which is what she wants.

Russ: I take it she follows Mark up?

Tia: sometimes, but she scared of it. The best way to describe it is she will come up here about once a month maybe twice a month and that's normally when Mark is at work and unfortunately it's always around about the same sort of time which is around about 3 o'clock and guess who's coming back to earth at that time?

Russ: Mark.

Tia: uh-huh, so she misses him and she wanders around the base looking for him and who does she have wrapped around her little finger?

Russ: Mark.

Tia: or her little claw?

Russ: must be Alzheimer's syndrome or something.

Tia: what do you mean?

Russ: cat Alzheimer's. Well she always seems to be at a loss for words.

Tia: she doesn't talk much.

Russ: no, but I mean she's just doesn't.....I mean, you look at the other three cats here and see.......

Tia: she was an abused kitten.

Russ: she was?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: oh.

Tia: and unfortunately Mark's father wasn't very nice to her at the last period that she was in the Napa Valley. Which was understandable because he wanted her to be more attached to Mark and she already was but he didn't realize that.

Russ: oh.

Tia: uh-huh. Well it was his way of trying to make her bond.

Russ: well anyway, you were going to discuss with me some political stuff.

Tia: oh yes, that's right, yeah, okay.

Russ: and so........

Tia: we'll do it in two parts like we did last time.

Russ: okay.

Tia: okay? Let us proceed with the first part.

Russ: all right. Yeah?

Tia: I was waiting for you to ask a question.

Russ: oh, well I thought you were going to give me a statement.

Tia: okay, I give you a statement.

Russ: and then I can ask you a question.

Tia: okay. Now, assuming that the current president is reelected....

Russ: uh-huh.

Tia: which has been added into my calculations, then the following things may occur, right?

Russ: yeah.

Tia: we've already had two assassination attempts that you are aware of.

Russ: on who?

Tia: on your current president.

Russ: oh, two?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: I didn't know one.

Tia: while there was the guy that hosed the White House down with a machine gun.

Russ: I don't count that.

Tia: no, that was aimed at the president, that was an assassination attempt.

Russ: I thought you were talking about the plane crash.

Tia: that is the other one.

Russ: okay.

Tia: which reminds me of a little joke which I have already told you so I'm not gonna tell you.

Russ: right.

Tia: okay?

Russ: okay.

Tia: right. Now, assuming that he is reelected, right? Which will be in two years, then the crash that we have predicted will start to occur but it won't really take effect until a year after he's been elected. So the downward slide, assuming that he is reelected, will occur at the predicted rate. Now, if a Republican such as Dole is elected, then the curve also occurs because of the transitional period from a Democrat president to a Republican president.

Russ: ahh, I see.

Tia: but there will be a slightly extended period before the slide occurs. But, it would be more acute due to the fact of the polarization of the ethnic classes.

Russ: uh-huh. Polarization can mean what?

Tia: what does polarization mean?

Russ: separating people into groups?

Tia: correct. You could say it would be a self-inflicted apartheid. A little bit like children at school have a self-inflicted apartheid but gender orientated.

Russ: now if Clinton is reelected.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: okay? Even if he is not reelected, I'm going to assume that up until the point of the election, the economy is going to be kept falsely propped up.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: to show that there is no instability until after the election in which case they could no longer maintain that facade.

Tia: correct. That is one of the things that is occurring at the moment is the economy is being propped up. It is evident in several fields. One is the economic current boom, that is the most obvious one. The other one is in economic growth. If you look at it very carefully you will see discrepancies.

Russ: I'm seeing fluctuations.

Tia: you'll see discrepancies in how they gather and analyze the data.

Russ: hmm, I see. Now, how about with the fact that.....I mean, with you're saying like say printing money.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: without regard to its backing......

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: would be another sign of them propping up the financial situation until they can no longer maintain that?

Tia: correct. Now there's a very nasty thing that occurs when you do this and that is that when you print money without any backing it's worthless.

Russ: yeah, but only if it's discovered.

Tia: no, it is worthless because it will be discovered. There's no if. It is when would be discovered and as we know that's occurring, is it not?

Russ: I don't know. But one of us does and now two of us do.

Tia: uh-huh. And three of you do.

Russ: and three of us do.

Tia: which is a fact that I should be careful about spreading because you could get into a lot of trouble. "Where does this information coming from, how do you know?"

Russ: well we don't have much luck with spreading too much information.

Tia: no, because you're both very cautious about it. Now, when you reach the stage of printing money that is worthless, right? Can you tell me when was the last time that happened?

Russ: my mind's sure not too good on financial matters as far as dates and everything. I do know it has happened.

Tia: where?

Russ: Mexico.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: when they were trying to prop up the peso.

Tia: no, there is a place where it happened on a vast scale.

Russ: oh, that would be, hold on a second.

Tia: you want a clue?

Russ: no.

Tia: what's that ticking noise?

Russ: it's the.....

Tia: oh, I thought it might be your brain.

Russ: it would be Russia.

Tia: no. Give you a clue on where it happened on a vast scale, 1919.

Russ: America?

Tia: no. Brought down a country.

Russ: Germany.

Tia: yes, I was about to say.....

Russ: the mark.

Tia: correct. I was about to say, here's a clue.

Russ: yeah.

Tia: now, hopefully your country won't be as foolhardy to do that. Because if that occurs, right? You are talking about a major, major domino effect.

Russ: now didn't that happen due to the fact that there was a change in government because of the end of the war and the government then in power at that point was financially mature and didn't know I enough about the solution to all their problems was to just merely printing money?

Tia: partly. The other part of the reason was that having just lost a war, how much money did they have in their Bundistbank?

Russ: none.

Tia: exactly.

Russ: they had to pay war damages and stuff.

Tia: correct. Now, there is a little bit of correlation here.

Russ: between now and then?

Tia: yes.

Russ: between the US and Germany?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: this would be concerning the deficit.

Tia: no.

Russ: not the deficit, the budget.

Tia: no.

Russ: the only war we've really been through is the Gulf War.

Tia: it is a correlation of money, not war.

Russ: I see.

Tia: the bank of Germany was paying war debts, correct?

Russ: yeah.

Tia: your country, what is it doing to help the world?

Russ: it's paying out.......

Tia: masses of amount of money in aid to countries that they have no hope of getting the money back from.

Russ: well that's because they're apparently, if I read it right....

(Tia scolds the cat)

Tia: stop that.

Russ: helping to prop up certain governments that are friendly to the U.S.

Tia: correct. And what's it doing to your bank? It's draining it of money. So you see, there isn't as much of the hard stuff around as people would like to think it is.

Russ: well we went off the gold standard I remember.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: and our money is currently backed by our good words, isn't it?

Tia: yeah, basically.

Russ: okay, so basically yeah, we are printing money to help out other countries......

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: maintainer status.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: now, here's the other part of it though. Were we not to do so.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: those governments would fall.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: in their place would be an unstable government that could lead to the fall of other governments.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: therefore it's a catch 22.

Tia: correct. You're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't.

West: right.

Tia: now here is something else which is a little bit scary. What is propping up your economy?

Russ: at present it is our exports.

Tia: sorry to burst your bubble, it's not.

Russ: it's not our imports, that's for sure.

Tia: uh-huh.

Tia: the other thing that would be propping it up......

Tia: I'll give you a clue, Mark's very proud of it, or one of the parts of it.

Russ: the British pound?

Tia: no, but you're getting close. The British pound is part of it. Foreign investors.

Russ: oh, investors in America.

Tia: that's right.

Russ: hmm, okay. And were they do fall.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: we definitely would not like that.

Tia: that's right.

Russ: but if that money that they are investing isn't staying in America.....

Tia: it's coming into America and it's doing a big loop like this.

Russ: right.

Tia: you see? There's a way to reduce your deficit.

Russ: what?

Tia: but it's not used like that.

Russ: increase taxes on them?

Tia: no. Keep the taxes exactly the same....

Russ: oh, instead of raising the tariffs, raising the taxes.

Tia: that's right.

Russ: yeah, but at the same time, they see Japan as taking American money out of the country.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: and sending in Japanese goods.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: well there's always that belief.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: that we are losing the war again.

Tia: yeah, uh-huh.

Russ: only this time it's a trade war.

Tia: that's right.

Russ: well, I suppose if Germany was investing heavily in America it would be the same thing.

Tia: no, because they are.

Russ: they are?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: not as heavily.

Tia: no, not as heavily. The biggest investor is a British Corporation, the biggest single investor.

Russ: hmm.

Tia: anyway, right? Going to put on the boss.

Russ: okay.

Tia: the boss man.

(Ashtar honors us with his presence)

Ashtar: greetings and felicitations Mr. Hatfield.

Russ: greetings Ashtar.

Ashtar: it is an honor and a pleasure to be present.

Russ: it's an honor to have you here. We haven't heard from you in a while, I'm glad you're finally back talking to me.

Ashtar: there are a few matters I need to discuss.

Russ: okay.

Ashtar: two weeks ago, you were having dinner I believe at a place of circular crusts......crust objects.

Russ: ahh, a pizza place.

Ashtar: yes, a matter was brought up concerning Mark and his past in Great Britain.....

Russ: uh-huh.

Ashtar: and how it is affecting at present.

Russ: oh.

Ashtar: this was something that you did not need to know, unfortunately you do know. The question is, do you understand why he did what he did?

Russ: no.

Ask: what do you not understand?

Russ: mostly what his......why would he do such a thing? It doesn't seem like it would make sense.

Ashtar: you know what I am referring to, do you not? He informed you that he was a hunter. Thus it is necessary for you to understand why he did what he did in connection with a gentleman in Reno and the reason why he did it.

Russ: well I have had a few moral problems about that.

Ashtar: the hunters are a very unique psychic individual. They pay extremely high prices for what they do. In Mark's case, it is an oath that was broken that he has now paid in this life as opposed to the life that he broke his oath. So it is necessary for him to pay the highest price. If he does not learn the importance of keeping an oath, he cannot proceed to the next level of learning. So therefore it is necessary for him to learn and understand the importance of keeping an oath.

Russ: and a lot of that is in part why he has the abilities he has.

Ashtar: correct. It is the final thing of his skills.

Russ: but it also requires a lot of burning.

Ashtar: correct, and they considerable amount of self-control. A hunter normally goes two ways. They burn incredibly bright for short periods of time and then they sink back down into a normal mode which for some of them is very bright but is dull for what they are normally. Others, will lean the other way. They will become corrupt with their power.

Russ: hmm.

Ashtar: so they walk a very narrow path.

Russ: do they also burn as bright?

Ashtar: they burn brighter.

Russ: but do they burn out shorter then or do they maintain that brightness?

Ashtar: they maintain that brightness because the power that they have is corrupted.

Russ: they walk along the gray side.

Ashtar: no, they do not walk on the gray side.....

Russ: they walk on the black side.

Ashtar: they descend into the black trouble.

Russ: then why would they not burn up even brighter than those who walk on the white side?

Ashtar: because they burn longer.

Russ: are they being propped up then?

Ashtar: yes.

Russ: I understand. Okay, and currently Mark is burning very bright.

Ashtar: correct. He will sink back down into a lower level and eventually. He will continue his normal level of astral travel which is still being able to D-jump but he will not be as hyper and as nervous as he has been.

Russ: I see. Is there a certain age that this happens at or is it just certain experiences that....?

Ashtar: it works in a cycle. When he was in his native country he burned brightly for a short period of time and then was temporarily dimmed his executive body and his physical and mental being would rejuvenate itself.

Russ: hmm.

Ashtar: and this is the pattern that it does. Fight hard if they fight hard, they pay a very high price, they sink back down into a normal level, rejuvenate, wait, practice, and again do what is necessary. They are a very strange bunch of individuals but they are prepared to take on and keep the fabric correct. Not to cause destruction but to protect those that need protecting. But they cannot protect them unless they are requested to do so. Even by an outside force.

Russ: hmm.

Ashtar: they will also try to right the wrong. Sometimes they succeed, sometimes they don't. And when all else fails, and I know this sounds like something from your entertainment, when it loses all that it is meant to be, then there is only one thing left, vengeance.

Russ: uh-huh. So their power is basically focused on those who either are corrupt versions of themselves or those who for example this case we're talking about harm innocents.

Ashtar: correct, any innocents. Whether it is a feline, you on something you do not know about, or a child.

Russ: you can't break the pattern.

Ashtar: no.

Russ: so, Omal and I were talking about how Mark's abilities would eventually, if they were to keep going at the rate they're going, reach past speed of thought.

Ashtar: yes.

Russ: with his burning the way it is, is that....

Ashtar: that is not affected.

Russ: that's not affected.

Ashtar: it is his physical third dimensional, spiritual third dimensional itself.

Russ: I understand. Is that include then health problems later on?

Ashtar: yes, that is one of the prices they pay. As I said, it is a very high price they pay. The best way to describe them is they protect you from the dark.

Russ: I assume that I haven't had to go through this myself.

Ashtar: no. It is a very few individuals that are prepared in their waiting period for the pride of paying that price. Now let us change the subject to something less thoughtful. Your questions please.

Russ: okay, moving to the lighter side for the first time, Mark and I had a question about chain of command in Ashtar Command and as I assumed it, it went Sananda, yourself, Korton.....

Ashtar: your guess was quite correct, it is a gray area that we cannot discuss.

Russ: oh, okay. Alrighty, moving on to other things then. Okay, first off, as you know, Omal and myself have been busy a lot lately with future events here on earth and the repercussions and consequences that may need to be focused on......

Ashtar: question please.

Russ: man is a survivor and he has shown that he can grow in the face of adversity.

Ashtar: the question please.

Russ: okay. Will the event in your opinion trigger a mass need for people to go within themselves and bring themselves to operancy?

Ashtar: eventually yes.

Russ: this is where we can help them?

Ashtar: correct. Have you noticed that there are more to say of you out there?

Russ: yes I have and growing on a daily basis.

Ashtar: there is your answer, find them, teach them, but teach them carefully.

Russ: all right. Will the upcoming event spread to the rest of the world?

Ashtar: eventually.

Russ: okay. Now, I've noticed that despite a television show called sightings, show concern UFO activity, there's been less now than in the 60s. Is this due to the psychological benefits gained then and not necessary now or is it just that you guys doing a really great job?

Ashtar: both. Our new vessels are doing a good job and, the psychological effect is that people still have the disbelief factor. People are wiser and no longer go around saying, "yes, I saw a UFO", because people will laugh at them. Is that not the case?

Russ: in general, yes. So people are actually taking more to stock of things like channelings and......?

Ashtar: they are becoming more spiritually open.

Russ: so this represents from yourself and Ashtar Command a change of policy from before where it was sightings and now it's information?

Ashtar: it is still both.

Russ: so it's just the sightings aren't really mentioned?

Ashtar: people are being more closed mouthed about it.

Russ: I see. Gaining more insight personally.

Ashtar: correct.

Russ: okay. All right, I had a question concerning a record keeper crystal that you have there. And I wanted to find out real quick is to find out the information from that, you place the pyramids on the face to your third eye?

Ashtar: correct.

Russ: okay. Now, in dealing with human growth cycles, I wanted to find out what it is, do we grow in spurts of years in general or is it a individual?

Ashtar: it is an individual basis that looks like in years. For example, young children will grow in spurts from age 5 to 7 and then from 9 to 12 and then again from 15 to 18. And then it slows down and then stops altogether. Spiritually, it follows a very similar path that you will grow in spurts.

Russ: hmm. And it also depends then on experiences that you've held that determine those growth spurts.

Ashtar: correct.

Russ: all right, one more section I wanted to deal with real quickly and that is the three great ages of earth. In researching this I saw that one was the Bella Marion age in which we saw development of mind and matter in the third dimension and I was wondering does that represent then the spirit phase of earth?

Ashtar: yes.

Russ: okay. The second was the Atlantean in which we saw technology and psychic ability advanced and I wondered if I had the correct meaning of the light phase?

Ashtar: close enough.

Russ: okay. And then the last is the one we've seen in the past 4,000 years called the Iron Age in which we're seeing a combination of the two. And this I suppose we can call then matter?

Ashtar: direction would be a better name for it.

Russ: direction. And so, the people on earth who have experienced all three are now getting ready to take it into its next phase.

Ashtar: yes.

Russ: okay.

Ashtar: some will do it from the third dimension, so will do it from higher.

Russ: okay. And that will be determined by how they respond to this coming event?

Ashtar: correct.

Russ: I understand. That's all I have Ashtar.

Ashtar: okay. Thank you very much.

Russ: thank you very much.

(Tia is back to get us to the end of the side)

Tia: to say twice, the question please.

Russ: well.....

Tia: he does that, you know.

Russ: I know. He does to you too I know.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: I doubt he would do that just for me, I think he'd do it in equal to you.

Tia: uh-huh, and he's done it in the past.

Russ: I'll probably never learn but that's all right.

Tia: uh-huh, whereas I have learned.

Russ: yes.

Tia: all's he has to do is say it once and I know immediately about that and he does so also as a test you might have noticed?

Russ: yes, testing shields and testing ability to be able to respond and come back.

Tia: and to see if if you are armed and stuff and wouldn't fall to pieces.

Russ: I didn't. You know, I did throw away one of my questions that I thought would be very irrelevant to where we had gotten.

Tia: what one was that?

Russ: that was in dealing with how we're approaching an unsustainable growth rate on this planet and I was wondering if.......

Tia: that's more my field.

Russ: we were going to........that's kind of what I assumed. I didn't want to really toss that out to him as he would consider it not....

Tia: he was quite talkative though.

Russ: he was. That was the most I think we've had in a long time.

Tia: I was going to say, most you've seen him in a long time.

Russ: that's true.

Tia: what's it? Nearly 6 months.

Russ: yes indeed, I like that. I mean I ran out of questions and that's a rarity.

Tia: yes.

Russ: usually I have extra questions and I don't get a chance to ask them.

Tia: uh-huh. That's handy. He just stood up, stepped outside the pyramid and went smack.

Russ: he's gone then?

Tia: yeah, gone.

Russ: oh good.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: at least he didn't come down here this time.

Tia: yeah. I think he had things to do.

Russ: oh. That was, I'm glad he really answered that last section?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: I was little iffy on it whether he was going to be able to just cut me off or.....

Tia: first time I've seen him actually chuckle then, on the chain of command thing.

Russ: oh yeah.

Tia: actually got a smile out of him too. I rarely do that.

Russ: yeah, well he's probably used to me.

Tia: I see them about once every two months. I make a verbal report to him and he also scans me.

Russ: hmm.

Tia: yeah, and then he goes around collecting reports from everybody and he talks to them any scans them and then he is gone.

Russ: hmm. Thought I felt a bit of a scan there myself for a little while.

Tia: uh-huh. So poor Mark.

Russ: that was very educational for Mark, just it's bad news.

Tia: no, I Mark knows.

Russ: yeah, I'm I'm sure he suspects but I don't think he wanted it confirmed quite now.

Tia: well Ashtar can be a little bit precise and to the point.

Russ: that's why I'm practicing healing.

Tia: uh-huh. But, as he said, there are a very strange bunch of people.

Russ: uh-huh. I had forgotten that conversation completely actually. So he brought it up.

Tia: yeah.

Russ: well good.

Tia: he seemed to think it was important enough to bring up. I think it's something that he thinks that you need to understand about Mark.

Russ: yeah.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: well go ahead, let's work on this other question that I didn't bother asking him.

Tia: uh-huh. Okay, now what was it?

Russ: okay. Basically that is that we're approaching an unsustainable growth rate on this planet and I'm wondering if the upcoming event is going to correct that little problem?

Tia: certainly correct it but not how you want it. Unsustainable growth is normally followed by what?

Russ: sustainable decline?

Tia: unsustainable decline.

Russ: oh.

Tia: it's like a boom and a bust. You boom, you bust, you boom, you bust, you boom, you bust, you boom, you bust.

Russ: well, one thing I wanted to ask him was, in the event.........oh, is the event caused in part by the growth rate as we saw in ancient Rome or because of Rome's control of people, it collapsed bringing the dark ages and it came with plagues and war.

Tia: the way it works is that you have an empire, right? And it breaks up and the Emperor is controlled by somebody with lots of money and he's a puppet.

Russ: hmm.

Tia: then there's the outside influences breaking down the Empire. The Huns, the Moors, the Visigoths, the Goths, all breaking it down.

Russ: oh.

Tia: and of course there's the little nucleus that stays strong that absorbs the Huns and economics is a little bit like this. One standing on its foot to look at history.

Russ: hmm.

Tia: and you've got to trace it way, way, way, way back. The Moran port in question is, how can a country recover from a collapse?

Russ: well Omal stated it last week.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: and that was where Omal stated that the collapse would be followed by a breaking up of authority into little centralized mini governments.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: those eventually reforming again form the government.

Tia: right. But how does the process work?

Russ: well the process works unfortunately very chaotically at first.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: in which major breakdowns in services, governments.....

Tia: locations and so on.

Russ: socialism and stuff.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: and that that point it's dog eat dog for a while until man's always searching for its stability in which he can run his life by.

Tia: correct. But the problem is that once it's re-hobbled together what happens? It grows strong, it grows great, it starts to be corrupted, it starts to rot within and breaks down again.

Russ: well the thing is is that, as we've discussed before, this is merely something that is preparing many of us as I was talking to Ashtar....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: for the next step up. But if we don't have these collapses....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: we wouldn't have a veritable learning experiences to grow from.

Tia: correct. But if you look at the economic side, the social economic structure, right? Those don't affect our famous, lovely, adorable Roman Empire.

Russ: okay.

Tia: okay, do you know it is reforming?

Russ: the Roman Empire?

Tia: not under that name but.....

Russ: you mean the European Market Community?

Tia: that's right.

Russ: you mean the apocalypse? Apocryphal 10 toes of the beast? Is that how it went?

Tia: when the Roman Empire re-arises, I can't remember how it goes.

Russ: I do. It's the 10 toes of the beast form and at that point the beast being the antichrist rises from the formation of......




(Kiri and Karra's grandmother is the night's honored guest speaker)

Kiri and Karra's grandmother: greetings and welcome. I am honored and pleased to be amongst you. It is necessary for me to greet you in the name of the: (the rest is too distorted to make out).

(Kiri takes over from her grandmother)

Russ: your grandmother?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: ahh, well wonderful.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: she sounded all good to me.

Kiri: yes she is. Don't forget, she is a nun.

Russ: well yeah, and fortunately....oh well, even nuns have a sense of humor.

Kiri: yes.

Russ: please explain to her........well, nevermind, Karra is.

Kiri: of course. Uh-huh yes, they're heading down to the picnic table that was set up and tidied up and got everything nice and dignity boo and wonderful and it's got flowers and Mark was still working on it while Ashtar was in the pyramid.

Russ: ahh.

Kiri: uh-huh. Been a busy individual when we came in, saw it all set up and everything and it was all excellent. Wine on the table and water for those that aren't drinking at the moment. It was all nicely set up.

Russ: well good. And here I am of course going, irreverent comment.

Kiri: a very good first impression might I add.

Russ: oh yeah, family and all.

Kiri: okay, now let's get down to business.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: you have to excuse me.

Russ: it's all right love.

Kiri: I missed all the fun and entertainment with Ashtar.

Russ: oh, you didn't miss much.

Kiri: although apparently according by my relay, Ashtar has returned.

Russ: returned where?

Kiri: sitting in the garden.

Russ: oh. So watching our P's and Q's.

Kiri: I don't think he can hear you unless he's reading my mind and I don't think he is.

Russ: okay. And he has the ability.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: alrighty, let's see, where to now?

Kiri: Tia's being the hostess with the most us I've heard. She's being very well behaved.

Russ: oh good. Have one question for you written down.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and that is concerning the greenhouse. The ground slopes out there by the fence.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and should I raise the greenhouse on blocks to level it or shall use the slope for drainage?

Kiri: terrace it.

Russ: terrace it?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: oh wait a minute, that's totally going to be a whole other set of plans.

Kiri: uh-uh.

Russ: what you mean?

Kiri: you terrace it.

Russ: you mean break it into sections?

Kiri: no, you're right, it wouldn't work that way.

Russ: uh-uh. I've got to level it.

Kiri: that's right.

Russ: okay. Right, because remember we were discussing this......

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and we said any drainage that we need we'll just slope the drainage pipe down?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: we don't need to slope the whole entire greenhouse.

Kiri: that's right, we've got to level it. It's got to be level.

Russ: right, so I've got put it up on blocks.

Kiri: yeah, you can do it that way.

Russ: why, what did you have in mind?

Kiri: well, I was just thinking about dumping the soil so you only dump half of what you actually need to move.

Russ: no, because it's quite an extreme slope out there.

Kiri: yeah, blocks would work better.

Russ: yeah, because that way also....

Kiri: you're going to dig the foundation.

Russ: right. Well here's a problem though. If I'm going to put it on blocks, that means I'm going to have to put a floor in whereas before we were just using ground.

Kiri: I'm just digging around inside Mark's mind for second and.......hmmm, that sounds useful. Guess who's built a greenhouse before?

Russ: he's built a greenhouse?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: he didn't mention that.

Kiri: I don't think he likes to show off.

Russ: that could come in handy at some point.

Kiri: uh-huh. Well, he knows about irrigation and building greenhouses. What the hell is he doing working as a security officer?

Russ: ask him.

Kiri: yes, I will.

Russ: I've got a question for you sweetheart.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: with Omal's prediction......oh, you didn't hear that part, did you?

Kiri: what part?

Russ: about Mark and his burning brightly is going to create some health hazards later on in his life.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: I'm going to assume then that his health hazards to be confined to the third dimension only.

Kiri: I assume so, I hope so.

Russ: right. I'm assuming that his astral body once he gets it up there is going to be fine and perfect.

Kiri: I think listening to the tape closer might give you your answer.

Russ: I'll listen to it.

Kiri: hmm, I don't know. I wasn't in on it and I cannot answer. I lack information.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: that's better, I can talk to you easier now.

Russ: so, has your grandmother changed much since you last saw her?

Kiri: she's got more wrinkles. She looks more like 70 instead of 60.

Russ: hmm. Well, she is 807.

Kiri: uh-huh. It's 814 to be precise.

Russ: she's more.

Kiri: uh-huh. I do adore my grandmother.

Russ: got any stories?

Kiri: no.

Russ: nothing growing up?

Kiri: no. She did counsel me quite a lot when I was growing up.

Russ: hmm.

Kiri: and she's always maintained that I am free to go and talk to her whenever necessary and I talk to her on subspace quite frequently.

Russ: oh.

Kiri: uh-huh. But it's very rare that she takes her cowl off to be seen.

Russ: hmm. Hey, by the way, is Omal coming on tonight?

Kiri: no. Yes, Ashtar wasn't meant to come. We heard about it on Friday just after Mark left actually.

Russ: so it was a surprise for you guys too.

Kiri: yeah, uh-huh. He wasn't due until next week.

Russ: he answered some questions.

Kiri: oh he did, did he?

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: hmm.

Russ: well I asked him a lot about what's going on in the future and the three great nations of earth.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and we had Lemurian, Atlantean and now this age here and then we're getting prepped up for a New Age. Which I didn't know about. I took a wild guess and he confirmed that part.

Kiri: uh-huh. Good, good, good, good, good. I'm going to hand over to the next speaker as I've got to go and help Tia.

Russ: okay.

(Alana is yet another special guest speaker)

Alana: yes? Hey, how's it going dear?

Russ: oh, Omal brought some interesting comments to the party that I wasn't expecting.

Alana: Omal?

Russ: I mean Ashtar.

Alana: oh yes.

Russ: it was quite enlightening.

Alana: uh-huh. Yes, you have to excuse me, I have a drink with me and it's not alcohol.

Russ: and thank you for telling your grandmother about my faux pas.

Alana: well, one has to help out. Besides, she is not as na´ve.

Russ: oh, I assume that with having a granddaughter like Kiri.

Alana: and a daughter like Miranda. And she happens, when I left her, had her in her arms and she was tickling her under the chin.

Russ: does she recognize her grandmother at all, her great-grandmother, her mom? God, it's a little confusing, all right? I get a little twisted on those kind of things.

Alana: she calls her little daughter.

Russ: oh.

Alana: and she does not recognize her mother.

Russ: well, it wasn't expected.

Alana: no.

Russ: it was a long shot.

Alana: uh-huh. It is one of those things that will come later on when she's old enough. And Tia has been an excellent hostess and so Mark has been an excellent host. They have their children all lined up in identical togas. And Leonedies is busy sleeping which he will definitely enjoy his great-grandmother when he wakes up.

Russ: hmm, nice.

Alana: uh-huh.

Russ: so our party's at 7 o'clock our time tomorrow?

Alana: no.

Russ: it's 8 o'clock your time.

Alana: correct. Hmmm, actually, I think grandmother wants it a little bit later.

Russ: okay, that would make it 8 o'clock your time, 10 o'clock our time.

Alana: uh-huh. Let me go and find out for you. I will..........good, the cavalry's arrived.

Russ: hi Tia.

Alana: done that again, haven't you? Twice. Not going to let you down, not going to let you forget it, heh, heh, heh, heh, heh.

Russ: why me? I mean.....

Alana: why you indeed?

Russ: pick on somebody else. Will nobody else is here. But I mean if they were here?

Alana: hey cats, where are you? You try doing this without a monitor.

Russ: not bad. Well you've always been good with stuff.

Alana: uh-huh. Okay, yeah, she has my daughter in her arms at the moment.

Russ: all right.

Alana: uh-huh. Surprised me that she wanted to channel. I couldn't believe it.

Russ: well I couldn't either. That's why I said what I said.

Alana: yeah, it surprised the heck out of me.

Russ: her mom told you I take it?

Alana: uh-huh. Don't worry.

Russ: oh right, yeah. Here's Mark, with his family and his children all lined up in togas and here's her other grandson in law.

Alana: oh yes.

Russ: talking about orgasms. Okay I mean, what kind of impression is this making on the poor lady, you know? Here I'll probably fall asleep in my suit tomorrow at 10 o''s worse than when Ashtar comes in. At least with Ashtar, he already understands me from long ago. This lady has just met me and this is the impression she's getting of me. Okay, he's a sex fiend.

Alana: she, as she keeps on frequently reminding us, is a simple country girl. She's not of any house of importance and I can never figure out why Miranda, who was just a very, very faint memory for her, know who my grandfather.......?

Russ: was.

Alana: yeah, because they were both very different backgrounds.

Russ: well yeah, but I mean, soulmates.

Alana: yeah, I think that's what it was. Looking at it, it was the prince and the pauper.

Russ: who, your grandmother was a pauper?

Alana: well not a pauper but yeah, not from a wealthy......not from any house. She was a free lady.

Russ: there is historical precedent for it though, right?

Alana: oh yeah. But I mean......

Russ: I'm sure up there also.

Alana: yes, she was a free woman which meant that she had no house and she could go and do and not be assigned to what they wanted her to do. She could be free.

Russ: well that's probably what made all the difference right there......

Alana: uh-huh.

Russ: is the fact that she had her own mind, she spoke it frequently.....

Alana: uh-huh.

Russ: and Tanaxa probably saw that as a great advantage over some of the ladies who would have been more nobility let's say.......

(Tanaxa is Kiri and Karra's father)

Alana: uh-huh.

Russ: but would be more constrained and more stuffy and stuff. Pompous I guess Tia would say.

Alana: yeah, according to the family archives, she did cause a big disturbance.

Russ: and who passed those genes on her daughters of course.......

Alana: uh-huh, yes.

Russ: who, one of them caused major scandals on her own right. Kiri I mean.

Alana: oh, I thought you were referring to me.

Russ: you? You're the granddaughter, you don't cause any scandals.

Alana yes. What do you mean I haven't caused any? I've caused quite a few.

Russ: well none I can vouch for. The only ones I've heard are the ones Kiri has caused.

Alana: yes, my auntie does cause some.

Russ: right, I've already made my scandal for the night. I can't top that one.

(Karra jumps into the conversation)

Karra: okay Russ, sorry to interrupt.

Russ: oh, that's all right.

Karra: we'll put Tia back on in a minute. It will be at 10:30 of your time but you can be present at 11 if you wish. Earlier would be nicer but 11 at the latest.

Russ: I'll have about that half-hour window anyway.

Karra: now, the news I'm hearing is that we will have the reception first and then we will sit down and have a late dinner.

Russ: oh, so I don't want to fall asleep at the reception or dinner.

Karra: my grandmother says that you can be if you wish be at one or the other or both.

Russ: I'll shoot for both. I'll shoot for the reception and I'll shoot for dinner.

Karra: okay.

Russ: okay, sounds great.

Karra: well, I'll see you later.

Russ: oh, okay. Oh, I have a question for you.

Karra: oh, oh yes?

Russ: before you leave, that is sort of the reason you're here tonight.

Karra: oh yes, I'm sorry. We weren't expecting her to.........we were going to settle her in her apartment.

Russ: I know, throwing everybody off.

Karra: yes.

Russ: all right.

Karra: it is, as my grandmother is fond of saying, age does have its advantages.

Russ: okay. Homeopath.......

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: I'm looking into that now as I've dabbled in it before that research but what is the difference between herbology and homeopath?

Karra: herbology is a very, very wide field. Let's put it this way, what species are you?

Russ: Homo sapien.

Karra: there's your answer.

Russ: I'm not herbsapious so.......

Karra: your answer's right there. Herbology covers a wide field. Homeopath deals directly with how the Homo sapien works and its relationship to natural medicines.

Russ: hmm, okay.

Karra: not just herbs.

Russ: so natural medicines being....

Karra: correct.

Russ: elixirs for examples?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: okay. Now the article I was reading described various viruses......

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: that are making a major come back.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: it's like we seen with Ebola in Africa.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: and things that have not affected man for let's say 25 years.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: and yet they're carried in animals for all this time and then all of a sudden people are catching them.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: and according to the article I read, this is due to the fact that Earth is fighting back.

Karra: yes.

Russ: using its defense system that has built in to......

Karra: control.

Russ: control and correct problems that it's experiencing.

Karra: correct.

Russ: which gives earth a bit more of a.......

Karra: edge then you think it does.

Russ: yeah, and.......

Karra: it has much of an edge then you think it does. For example, tuberculosis, almost eradicated.

Russ: yeah, and now the virus is back that we're vaccinated against but it isn't affected by the vaccine.

Karra: correct. Polio, diphtheria.

Russ: did that come back?

Karra: yeah.

Karra: diphtheria, yellow fever, scarlet fever. There's new strains as well, why? Because when you eradicate one, it almost becomes extinct and it is necessary for evolution.

Russ: how does it know to change that? I mean yeah.........

Karra: survival.

Russ: oh.

Karra: environmental factors, it's called evolution.

Russ: so viruses are a life form of their own.

Karra: uh-huh, correct. The best way to describe it is, are the dinosaurs extinct?

Russ: that's a good question. Not if you count the viruses that were in existence back then.

Karra: no, dinosaurs are not extinct. They were almost extinct but survivors. Snakes......

Russ: turtles.

Karra: turtles.

Russ: lizards.

Karra: lizards.

Russ: they adapted to conditions that would be conducive for their existence.

Karra: correct. So are they extinct?

Russ: no, they mutated.

Karra: correct. Now I've got to go.

Russ: bye love.

(Kiri comes on to talk about the reception)

Kiri: oh, message from Karra, you are coming up tonight.

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: uh-huh, and Alana.

Russ: oh.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: so, how's the preparations going?

Kiri: preparations for.....?

Russ: the reception.

Kiri: oh, they're going fine. Fine, fine, fine, fine, fine.

Russ: will there be more?

Kiri: don't know, it's a big formal affair.

Russ: oh, is it something like the base........?

Kiri: uh-huh, upper echelons.

Russ: dang. Oh, that's messed up.

Kiri: Ashtar will be there, Korton and Omal, the Council will be there, senior pilots will be there.

Russ: and me.

Kiri: I don't think........and family. And I don't think she realizes how important she actually is. She always says she's a simple country girl.

Russ: right.

Kiri: and the thing is, she's not. I mean she's from no house but because she's a nun and could quite easily be a priestess if she wanted and all she wants is the simple things in life as she maintains.

Russ: then why is she allowing this big whole reception being taking place?

Kiri: because she's got no say in the matter.

Russ: oh she doesn't?

Kiri: no. It is to honor her.

Russ: besides, it's just a little party and dinner.

Kiri: uh-huh. Yes, probably about 80 people be present.

Russ: oh, that's neat.

Kiri: uh-huh. Now, we're getting everything ready for the arrangements for when sweet little girl gets home.

Russ: Lyka?

Kiri: uh-huh. And we are going to have an erotic, exotic party.

Russ: in great style.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: you know, I've tried out the new outfit and it just doesn't fit.

Kiri: well if Karra would stop stepping on the feet it might fit a little better.

Russ: you know, I just don't look good in those pants.

Kiri: no, we will have dressed up in something that's a tease, if you want it.

Russ: that should be a challenge.

Kiri: uh-huh. It's going to be mainly Lyka's platoon.

Russ: oh.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: cool.

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: hey, by the way, how are you guys figuring out arrangements for Mark and I's.........our travel?

Kiri: oh, we'll take a rest.

Russ: well I mean, you're going to be going with us, right?

Kiri: course.

Russ: well I know that part but you'll be joining us for the Renaissance Festival of course.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: seeing the girls with their breasts being pushed up out of their thing and watching Mark wander all over the place.

Kiri: personally, I think it's a good thing.

Russ: why?

Kiri: it gets them all horny.

Russ: yeah, little bit.

Kiri: and he comes up here and makes love to me and Tia.

Russ: oh, he'll be horny all right.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: it's one of those feast and festivals of the eyes that.....

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: you never quite get enough of.

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: nothing but.........nevermind, you'll see.

Kiri: I'm already quite horny actually. I'm not wearing any panties and I'm wearing a kneelength dress.

Russ: ahh.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: does your grandma know?

Kiri: she isn't wearing any panties either but it's because of her habit she's wearing. They don't wear anything underneath it anyway.

Russ: they don't?

Kiri: no.

Russ: something I learn about nuns every day I guess.

Kiri: well Sirian nuns anyway. But remember, she's not an innocent virgin, you know?

Russ: so she didn't like renounce everything to the church I guess. I don't know, religion and Sirian religion has always been a little bit iffy for me. I never figured that one out.

Kiri: she has become celibate of her own choice.

Russ: right.

Kiri: ever since her husband died and he died I think about 100 years ago so I didn't know him and she's been celibate. And they bonded for life, which is unusual actually.

West: really?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: I bonded for life.

Kiri: hmm.......yeah, but you're also bonded to Alana. She was solely bonded to one person which is unusual. And little gossip of fact is that Lyka's family could be be linked to our family.

Russ: really?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: genetically?

Kiri: no.

Russ: marriage?

Kiri: yes. Somebody impressed the hell out of dad.

Russ: well I....

Kiri: elder sister.

Russ: who, Karra?

Kiri: no, elder sister of Lyka.

Russ: what elder sister?

Kiri: she has an elder sister and younger brother and a younger sister.

Russ: well didn't Lyka impress the hell out of your dad also if I remember right?

Kiri: uh-huh. According to somebody I know that lives there, she arrived a day earlier than her family and they spent the whole entire time in bed. Well, figuratively in bed.

Russ: yes, right.

Kiri: uh-huh. Never did try it in the great dining room.

Russ: Lyka, I got to say is too young? That's for sure.

Kiri: no, it's not Lyka that is still there.

Russ: oh, it's her elder sister.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: oh.

Kiri: yes.

Russ: why, are we looking at something in the future being possible?

Kiri: possibly, yes.

Russ: no. How old is her sister?

Kiri: hmm, I think she's about 42.

Russ: that's half of Karra's age.

Kiri: so?

Russ: it's Sirius. I can't put earth standards onto a planet that's not even mine.

Kiri: it surprised the hell out of me too. I've only seen pictures of her.

Russ: wait a minute, Lyka's elder sister is about your age.

Kiri: oh, she's a few years younger than I am.

Russ: that's what I mean.

Kiri: I'm 57.

Russ: yeah I know, but I mean in that area.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: I mean in Sirian ages, I just put anything between 20 and 70 in the same group.

Kiri: and guess who's thinking about a rejuve?

Russ: who, your dad?

Kiri: yes.

Russ: your dad's going to want a rejuve?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: this is news.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: must've impressed the hell out of him.

Kiri: according to a friend of mine, who sometimes took care of dad's needs, is that they've been doing it a lot.

Russ: really? Okay, Lyka's elder sister lives on Sirius anyway.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: well winded Lyka's elder sister meet your dad?

Kiri: last week.

Russ: the first time?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: that's quite a flash romance, wouldn't you say?

Kiri: yeah, she's very much like a younger sister. She's a very horny young lady.

Russ: I guess.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: well that's going to keep dad going for a while, huh?

Kiri: I think so. She's not an engineer, she is a medic.....

Russ: ohh.

Kiri: uh-huh. Retired from service.

Russ: at 42?

Kiri: uh-huh. She's studying to be a rejuv nurse.

Russ: oh.

Kiri: uh-huh. And she has.....

Russ: oh, so that's what's gotten the idea in his head.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: ahhhhhhhh.

Kiri: uh-huh. She saw active service like her younger sister has.

Russ: being vulnerable.

Kiri: uh-huh. And she forsook having a graft.

Russ: oh, she had something burned off?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: really? A whole hand, an arm?

Kiri: uh-huh, she has a mechanical one.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: like her younger sister she wears it with pride.

Russ: her sister isn't wearing any artificial.......

Kiri: is she?

Russ: she used to. Ohhhhhhhhh, Kiri? What is it you're finally letting loose here on.....

Kiri: she lost two of her fingers.

Russ: ahh, recently?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: in this last little thing?

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: nobody told me.

Kiri: nobody was meant to know.

Russ: good Kiri, you're getting better than Tia at this.

Kiri: we all make blunders from time to time.

Russ: ahhh, well I won't mention it to her. Mark might. Shall I erase that portion of the tape or do you want to tell him yourself?

Kiri: I'll tell him.

Russ: good girl.

Kiri: I screwed up.

Russ: because I knew she had been formally......

Kiri: uh-huh, her leg.

Russ: yeah, but she grew the grafted one back on.

Kiri: now she has two mechanical fingers.

Russ: and is she going to wear those with pride or is she going to get a graft on those too?

Kiri: uh-huh, she will wear them with pride.

Russ: well then I think you definitely better tell Mark.

Kiri: uh-huh. Because normally professional soldiers, like Lyka and her elder sister, wear their wounds with pride when they save lives.

Russ: oh, I see. So when she lost her leg it wasn't saving a life.

Kiri: no. It is my wound is for my sisters or brothers. But the story goes, and I'll tell Mark as well, was that they were getting ready to leave, right? And Lyka with her astral vision sight saw a package. And one of the girls had the package under her arm that she had picked up at the store.

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: and Lyka grabbed hold of it and ran with it and started to throw it and it went off.

Russ: hmm.

Kiri: they would have been on or in the shuttle for the ship when it went off which would have caused much more damage than just losing two fingers. So not only did she save the young lady that she grabbed the package from, but he probably saved the whole entire ship as well. So it would've been her whole entire platoon that she saved. Plus the technicians on board and everybody else going up.

Russ: and you were going to hold this from me and Mark?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: at Lyka's request of course.

Kiri: of course.

Russ: she's going to tear you a new one when she comes back.

Kiri: I'll seduce her. I she wanted to tell Mark herself.

Russ: I think so too.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: Mark can always act surprised. No, Mark could never get away with it.

Kiri: Mark can be pretty clever at acting sometimes.

Russ: true.

Kiri: anyway, I'm in a hand you back to Tia.

Russ: alrighty.

(Tia has a chat before the final transfer)

Russ: you didn't know either, I take it?

Tia: no I didn't.

Russ: hmm.

Tia: oh well.

Russ: that's all right, you let something go earlier also.

Tia: yes.

Russ: in front of Ashtar too I have to admit so that's pretty amazing. Between thr two tonight, you're just.....

Tia: we're a bundle of nerves.

Russ: I guess. You're never like this though, neither one of you.

Tia: no.

Russ: I have two admit, this is the most decorum session we've had in that pyramid......

Tia: yes.

Russ: since we did anything in there....very bad.

(We hear what sounds like a cat)

Tia: okay.......

Russ: happen again Tia?

Tia: sorry?

Russ: happen again?

Tia: I don't follow.

Russ: who was that?

Tia: oh......

Russ: excuse me?

Tia: that was Minerva.

Russ: mistress manifestor herself.

Tia: uh-huh.

(Russ repeats the sound)

Russ: that's on tape.

Tia: oh, it is?

Russ: yes, it's on tape.

Tia: really?

Russ: yeah.

Tia: the only other person that's been on tape has been Alex.

Russ: that's pretty good. What did she say?

Tia: she asked me where I wanted to put it so I told her to put it on the bed.

Russ: what did she turn it into?

Tia: she turned it into a tray with hotdogs on it. That was clever my asking.

Russ: tray with hotdogs, what if someone wants a hot dog?

Tia: well they're not cooked.

Russ: oh. Well she has a sense of humor too at an early age.

Tia: well I told her to make it look like something that was edible but very similar so it wasn't too much of a strain on her.

Russ: hmm, could have been an ice cream pop or.......

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: that's pretty good though.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: I couldn't do it.

Tia: yes, it looks like there's about a dozen on a tray.

Russ: that's beyond nice as a manifestor.

Tia: yeah, she's having difficulty carrying the tray and watching where she goes.

Russ: proud of your daughter, dear?

Tia: yes, very proud.

Russ: I see that.

Tia: yes, light blue toga with gold trim.

Russ: very proper.

Tia: uh-huh. And grandmama has difficulty telling the triplets.......well, she can tell Athena but Diana and Minerva she can't tell apart.

Russ: well I can't either.

Tia: can anybody except for me and Kiri?

Russ: well you can from the smell.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: Mark can because of the fact of girls of course close association.

Tia: uh-huh. One has a narrower band of freckles than the other. Diana has a wide band and Minerva has a narrow band.

Russ: I'll check it out next time.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: are they coming to the reception tomorrow?

Tia: yes.

Russ: oh wonderful, I'll see if I spot it.

Tia: yes, we're going to let them nap early and then have them all ready and everything.

Russ: oh good.

Tia: uh-huh because it will be way past their bedtime. Alex will be there and is going to be dressed in a little suit.

Russ: wow.

Tia: very formal affair. I didn't realize the technician is sitting there totally in the buff.

Russ: she's been there all that time?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: which technician, the 18-year-old? Well I'm sure Kiri's grandmother didn't mind.

Tia: I don't think she noticed her. Her eyesight isn't as bright as it once was. And she is sitting behind the monitoring device that she has.

Russ: I was going to say, you didn't see her and you've been there the whole time.

Tia: uh-huh. She just stood up to get a drink that was propped on the top. Karra was going to talk to you but she's ran off and is surreptitiously getting a dress for her.

Russ: okay.

Tia: because she wasn't meant to be here.

Russ: why not? You have to have a monitor, don't you?

Tia: no, no, no, no, no.

Russ: oh, the grandmother.

Tia: uh-huh, yes.

Russ: what's her name?

Tia: all's I call her is grandma.

Russ: me too because otherwise it's like grandmother in law.

Tia: uh-huh, yes.

Russ: well if they're over at your house, did she just grab one of Kiri's dresses?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: she's about the same size.

Tia: uh-huh, yeah.

Russ: because yours would just be like up to her navel.

(Tia chuckles)

Tia: okay, Karra's back.

Russ: okay, ask her what we're going to do about getting dressed tonight.

(Karra finishes things up)

Karra: sorry?

Russ: what are we doing about me getting suited up for tomorrow?

Karra: we're going to dress you up in a matching suit to Michael and David and Kevin.

Russ: ohhhh.

Karra: all going to be matching suits.

Russ: so I need to come up for a fitting?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: got it.

Karra: although I could use a holo of you to get it fitted properly.

Russ: yes, I know but it's better if I'm there in person.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: I can always tell when you're helping me out on that too.

Karra: uh-huh, stamina.

Russ: yeah.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: how you doing darling?

Karra: I'm doing fine.

Russ: you're the only one who was unflustered tonight.

Karra: yes, very well behaved.

Russ: you heard about Kiri and Tia's little gaffes?

Karra: yes, I did know about Lyka's fingers.

Russ: you did?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: I'll get the full story later, I'm sure.

Karra: oh yes, of course.

Russ: that's kind of interesting. That is one of the most amazing stories that I've heard tonight.

Karra: uh-huh. I'm trying to puzzle out why one of Mark's daughters is running around with a tray of hot dogs.

Russ: you want the full story on that now or should.......

Karra: no, probably not.

Russ: okay.

Karra: she's wandering around and looking frightfully lost.

Russ: oh.

Karra: ahh...

Russ: Tia's doing.......

Karra: no, Mark got to her.

Russ: Mark got to her.

Karra: uh-huh. Well Tia's there as well now.

Russ: good.

Karra: they're talking and giggling.

Russ: I'll give you the story real quick. It's Kiri's vibrator.

(Tia finding her vibrator and having daughter manifest it into something else had been edited out earlier)

Karra: oohhhhhhh.

Russ: it was in the pyramid and Tia wanted to get it to Kiri's bed without your grandmother seeing it so she had Minerva.....

Karra: oh I understand, I get the joke.

Russ: something similar, edible.

Karra: that's very clever.

Russ: I couldn't do it if I tried hard.

Karra: that's very clever.

Russ: you know what? Minerva spoke on tape.

Karra: really?

Russ: we've got Minerva on tape right now.

Karra: this is one of the strangest channeling sessions we've had in some time.

Russ: we don't get ones like this too often.

Karra: yeah, this is just a regular chitchat tape.

Russ: I know.


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