Archivist Notes: Welcome to the new year and another channeling session from the members of Ashtar Command. January's session was only an hour long with half of it used by Omal for a conversation covering a number of subjects. The other half is handled by the usual girls on the base, two of which were pregnant at the time. Omal begins things by explaining that Korton had Mark working on a project for him so he would be using the speaking time both of them would often have available. The next part of the session might be confusing to the listener because we are talking about earlier time where Ashtar had taken on the aspect of Korton to get me into a theological discussion that I would've normally avoided if I had known it was the commander himself. The schedule for the night's session was set for free time which meant all subjects were open for discussion such as the first, negative feedback loops. For those unfamiliar with them, negative feedback loops are used to build up energy for certain tasks such as astral projection and manifestation. The problem I had been having was the lack of pain normally associated with doing a feedback loop which made me worry my neural pathways weren't being enlarged. That leads into a discussion on how the energy picked up doing a feedback loop gets activated which leads to having more energy even when exhausted. We next get into a review of an earlier astral projection I had done to the base but thought myself stretched out with half of me trying to stay in the third dimension. He cautions me that this is an important step toward separating completely from my physical body and not to ignore the warning signs. It is at this point I bring up my previous discussion with Ashtar and a planet on the third dimension Mark had come across we had began to call the Bat Planet. They had been at war with another species and millions have been killed on both sides. Omal explains that with Mark and I, having different perceptions on death, our feelings toward the deaths of so many was part of their getting a better understanding of the human race by our perceptions. We end the side from there with a question on using a negative feedback loop in enhancing my manifestation ability. He cautions that the possibilities of burnout exist by taking on too many skills on at once. He finishes with a joke before handing off to the first half of the terrible twosome as he calls them.

After Karra enters the channeling field, I mention that I have started watching energy patterns of the different entities as they take over Mark's body. What was interesting was how each was so unique yet matched their character perfectly. I next get her input on how it looked from her side when I was being pulled back to earth. She explains I was slightly elongated at times. It comes up in the conversation that I had been explaining to the Wookies on the base about snowboards since they had a mountain of snow available to them. They would turn out to be major shredders who would start a new event at the tri-base ski races. That brings on Kiri to take over from her sister who I note has a energy signature almost like a cloud of blazing energy. She had been getting food cravings we have gone over in previous channeling sessions that always seem to include some kind of fish either pickled or raw. She details the difficulties in trying to establish a rapport with her unborn son who would turn out to be a super operant that was a paramount Grand Master in all five abilities before the age of two. She helps me from there with my coercion by correcting the way I had been practicing through encouraging me to use both eyes instead of one eye that I had been trying. She explains the two beams from each eye puts too much information into just the one eye of the person being coerced. A funny part of our conversation was my tip to try the sweatpants we use here on earth during her pregnancy instead of the toga she was complaining didn't fit right. One of the benefits of being third dimensional. The last speaker of the night is Tia, which is a rare thing to say, but we do get a great joke about financially strapped cats. It's good she can joke because next she tells how she misses her time with Mark while he is doing the project for Korton. That leads to a question on if she ever gets lonely and that my solution for if that ever happened was to try one of my mental tapes I would be sharing with the base from my concert experiences of the Grateful Dead. She theorizes what would happen if the Wookies ever got a hold of them. We end agreeing that was something better left to the imagination. Another great yet short session for the Ashtar Command archives.
 

In love, light, and wisdom as one,
Russ and Karra                                     

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SIDE ONE


(Omal is on for the whole side)


Omal: good evening Russ.

Russ: good evening Omal.

Omal: now why did you turn on just before we came in?

Russ: to watch you come in.

Omar you're getting clever.

Russ: a little bit fragmented on that one. Kind of come in pieces you might say.

Omal: we prefer to do things carefully and make sure the channeler is functioning within the correct operational parameters.

Russ: good news I take it?

Omal: hmm, within certain parameters, normal parameters for the channeler.

Russ: good. Is he off with Kiri and Tia I hope?

Omal: no, I'm afraid not.

Russ: he's off with Korton.

Omal: yes.

Russ: bummer. Oh well, I know the girls will miss him.

Omal: well, presumably. We are kept pretty busy up here at the moment, on our toes as it were. Never know who's going to drop by.

Russ: I know.

Omal: yes, you experienced it.

(Russ laughs)

Russ: a fun little visitation.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: for all practical purposes it worked out.

Omal: yes, did you enjoy your theological discussion with......?

Russ: the theologian himself.

Omal: yes, master.

Russ: I assume he doesn't mind his maintaining his aspect as Korton for our....

Omal: I think it should be pretty obvious from the start. Who else would address you as Mr. Hatfield?

Russ: right, but I had a feeling that, and Mark agrees that there was a little bit of coercion involved because he knows I won't talk to him on a one-to-one basis like I would Korton.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: because he scares the dickens out of me.

Omal: true, true.

Russ: I wouldn't be getting into theological discussions with Ashtar if I knew it was Ashtar.

Omal: which you did.

Russ: which I did but, I came up with the idea later on afterwards......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: that I should have presented to him the fact that while soldiers can teach teachers how how to fight.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: teachers can teach soldiers how to not fight.

Omal: true, true.

Russ: I think that would've stumped him.

Omal: I don't know, he would have probably come back with an answer that would have stumped you big time.

Russ: I know. But, had me wondering.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: anyway, it was quite enjoyable.

Omal: I'm glad you enjoyed it.

Russ: yes I did. All right, what's on the list for tonight. I believe it's free time.

Omal: it still is free time, yes. Negative feedbacks I presume?

Russ: negative feedbacks, coercion...

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and a little bit of farsighting.

Omal: okay, let's start off with this negative feedback loop.

Russ: alrighty.

Omal: you are concerned about the lack of pain.

Russ: correct.

Omal: hmm.....

Russ: I don't want pain really but I'm expecting pain and can't get it. I think that might be my problem?

Omal: that is possibly your problem that you're anticipating pain. It is like when you stick a needle in yourself, you're expecting it to hurt...

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: and sometimes it doesn't because the expectation is there but yet you bleed all the same.

Russ: right, but still hurts....

Omal: hmm....

Russ: I know what you mean though.

Omal: that is the expectation, it didn't hurt as much. You're expecting it to hurt and yet you stick it in and it doesn't hurt as much.

Russ: right. I assume the reason why it should hurt.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: is because it's going through various neural pathways and being driven out by force.

Omal: yes, uh-huh.

Russ: now, my lack of pain, would that mean that I'm failing in this and my neural pathways aren't being opened or they're being opened and I'm just not feeling any pain?

Omal: it is probably a little bit of that but they are being enlarged........

Russ: okay.

Omal: but they're only being enlarged at a small rate.

Russ: oh, was there a monitor on me today during the.......when I was doing that this morning?

Omal: unfortunately, we were aware a little bit too late to follow the process from beginning to end.

Russ: okay, because I had some major feedback loop going this morning.

Omal: uh-huh. How tight was it? Was it overflowing or was it a nice, tight beam?

Russ: well, I started off slow and I started going a little bit differently.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: where before I was using the idea that the chakras were in front of the body but now I'm going back to the chakras are along the spine.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: so I'm working up sending the energy through the chakras along my spine now suits me better. And, as it started picking up speed, it picked up solidity.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and the faster it went, the solider it would get until it was a vibrating band almost of solid energy that I could feel and Mark could feel and he wasn't even near me.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and I thought this was going to be it, this was going to be the biggie, it was really there, sent it in, nothing.

Omal: and was it a tight beam or was it a wide, fat beam?

Russ: it was a fat beam.

Omal: ahh, it's got to be a tight beam.

Rest well, I was gathering so much energy it couldn't get any tighter.

Omal: you'd be surprised how tight you can get it.

Russ: oh. So in other words, tighten the beam up more.

Omal: yes, I think we went over this a little while back.....

Russ: yeah.

Omal: that it had to be a nice, tight beam. Tight and tidy. If it's a wide, fat beam, it tends to bleed a little bit.

Russ: I'd say it was the width of my fist.

Omal: it needs to be tighter.

Russ: the width of a pencil let's say?

Omal: yes.

Russ: so that sends the energy in the width of a pencil.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, now let me get this straight. Just before I send it in, it loops up and then instead of looping back down to go back through my chakras, it crosses back in and goes straight in through my left eye?

Omal: yes. Okay, where did you go wrong?

Russ: well that's what I did but tighter.

Omal: yes, it needs to be tighter. As tight as possible. The tighter the better.

Russ: hmm.

Omal: about a third of an inch in diameter should suffice.

Russ: that's less.

Omal: uh-huh, that is about the width of a pencil.

Russ: I was thinking, with acupuncture.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: talking about needles....

Omal: yes.

Russ: they don't hurt.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and yet they do their work the way they're supposed to.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: now, I'm using almost the same principle......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: but it's supposed to hurt.

Omal: yes. Acupuncture is A, it is a much smaller object. B, it is going to the body, it is not penetrating the brain.

Russ: hmm.

Omal: if you were to use acupuncture to penetrate the heart you would feel it, or the brain....

Russ: ohhh.

Omal: you would feel that. Whereas it's going through tissue and muscle and so on, it is not as harmful. But yet, if you penetrate an organ of some kind, then you feel it. Maybe not immediately, but you feel it later on.

Russ: okay. Now, I've had some curious side effects from the negative feedback loop that I wanted to talk about.

Omal: uh-huh, okay.

Russ: all right, number one, I didn't get to bed last night until about 4:30 or five.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, so then I should've been just dragging my butt everywhere.

Omal: yes?

Russ: and at first I was. Then I did the negative feedback loop and I was a little bit wonky as Mark would say afterwards and then as soon as I got the wonkiness feeling gone, my energy level was so up....

Omal: that is......

Russ: that....

Omal: sorry.

Russ: oh, I was just going to say, I was smiling, laughing, having a great time. I've had tons of energy all day long and I'm still just amped up, I should be dead on my feet ready to drop.

Omal: that is because the energy that you pick up, is being activated. It activates more energy, see, which gives you extra energy to make you, how did you put it? Bouncy, cheerful?

Russ: right. Amped up.

Omal: amped up, that's the one.

Russ: you're going to learn all kinds of English from us.

Omal: this is amusing.

Russ: anyway, right, so that's actually a good exercise in the morning when I'm feeling kind of tired.

Omal: yes, but you can't do it on a regular basis because after a while you run out of energy and then you just, to use an expression that Mark uses occasionally, you just fall over.

Russ: hmm.

Omal: which actually I presume means that you run out of energy and you're just....

Russ: wore out.

Omal: yeah. Dragging your butt, no energy, shields are low in power, capabilities almost zero and so on.

Russ: right. Okay, so not all the time but......well, for now I can practice it anyway.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: I need the practice.

Omal: yes, but it would be more effective after a good night's sleep. You would be.........what's the term that you use when you have lots of energy?

Russ: amped up.

Omal: amped up...hmm, hyper.

Russ: hyper, yeah.

Omal: yes, hyper beyond belief.

Russ: right.

Omal: a bit like the channeler gets sometimes.

Russ: he sure does.

Omal: you can tell when he's been doing negative feedback loops.

Russ: okay, so this is all going to be coming in really handy for this next part of this lesson.

Omal: yes.

Russ: which brings me to my next point.

Omal: okay.

Russ: farsighting, Crystal, star port.(?)

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, in my hand I have a crystal sphere.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: something very strange happens with the crystal sphere.

Omal: okay.

Russ: when I bought it, on the surface of it.......or just below the surface, there was like two little eyeholes almost where somebody had dropped it and caused a little fracture type of thing....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: very small but very clear, like someone had shot a BB at it almost.

Omal: BB?

Russ: a little, high-powered steel pellet fired from an airgun.

Omal: ahh.

Russ: in other words, the middle part of the circle was clear, the outer rings of it were kind of like a crater on the moon kind of.....

Omal:ahh, yes.

Russ: splattered out. And there were two of them next to each other, it looked like eyes.

Omal: yes.

Russ: they're not there anymore.

Omal: and you want me to explain why they're not there anymore?

Russ: well, Mark's gets clear but it's been a long time. This is like a week after I bought it and they're gone.

Omal: what sort of energy do you use on it?

Russ: not much. I used it for farsighting a couple times.......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and keep it in my pocket all the time.

Omal: maybe it is a self-healing crystal?

Russ: oh.

Omal: there are crystals that do self heal.

Russ: sure, I've got a few of them.

Omal: depending on their circumstances and who uses them, how much energy, the attention and so on.

Russ: okay. So the crystal itself doesn't lend its energy though to farsighting?

Omal: no.

Russ: it's merely an aid to keep your awareness focused....

Omal: yes.

Russ: in case you don't drift.

Omal: yes. You get a much tighter form of travel to start off with which aids you in your farsighting until you get the pattern down and then you don't need it.

Russ: tighter travel, how do you mean?

Omal: well, you don't get so sloppy around the edges.

Russ: oh, you mean instead of drifting.

Omal: correct.

Russ: I see.

Omal: it's a much tighter beam that also means you can travel a lot faster because you're not wasting as much energy.

Russ: oh good, that brings me up to my farsighting.

Omal: okay.

Russ: I did...yesterday? Day before yesterday.

Omal: yes, Wednesday.

Russ: correct, my day off.

Omal: uh-huh. It was not your day off from your other job.

Russ: right, the theater. Yeah, I had some morning time free. I went ahead and traveled on up to Hades Base...

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: got to Karra's room and we went to this ski slopes.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: but I was feeling this pull from back here...

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and even though I was feeling really solid at the time, I almost went over to your room. The pull was getting stronger and stronger. I kept having to fight it with more and more energy to stay where I was...

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: until finally I just had to give it up and head back from the slopes back down here......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and it was very uncomfortable. It was like a thousand needles were pushing into my body kind of.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: Mark says he ignored it one time, fought it even longer than I did and suffered some severe consequences from it.

Omal: uh-huh. You want to know what it is.

Russ: you betcha.

Omal: it is your body calling to be whole. Once you manage to condition your body to accept the fact that it is temporarily apart, then you can start to do some serious farsighting. But in the meantime, your body has to get conditioned to the fact that you are not only in a different place but in a different dimension. It is the dimension that you break through that causes it but your body is aware that you have broken through to somewhere different and it wants it to return and it pulls and it pulls and it pulls.

Russ: so in other words, if I was to say stay on the third dimension here, travel around the neighborhood or something I wouldn't feel that pull.

Omal: no, but it is breaking through that dimension and it will become less and less until your body is conditioned. This is also a stretching type experience.

Russ: yeah, that's what it felt like. It felt like my body was like elongated a thousand miles and something.......

Omal: and then some.

Russ: and then some. But yeah, I don't plan on sticking around the neighborhood here.

Omal: it is best to start off slowly and gently.

Russ: nah. No, I'm kidding, I know.

Omal: you don't want to overload yourself and burn out and lose your capability.

Russ: right.

Omal: which can happen.

Russ: but I do want to go to Hades Base.

Omal: of course.

Russ: it's the only place I want to go farsighting.

Omal: don't you want to relieve the channeler of some of his workload as you were saying?

Russ: well yeah, but that's not until after I get Hades Base down....

Omal: well of course, course, we're teasing you.

Russ: oh, I can never tell sometimes. Okay, so it's nothing serious.

Omal: yes it is serious.

Russ: it is serious.

Omal: yes, because if you ignore it as was mentioned about the channeler, it can have some very serious side effects. You can actually overload yourself and then everything goes down.

Russ: hmmm.

Omal: you crash the computer as you might say.

Russ: right, but caution then?

Omal: when it gets strong enough to become an interference return.....

Russ: okay.

Omal: practice as a precaution because your body gets used to it after a while it accepts it.

Russ: hmm. Because it didn't feel like that really the time I went to visit your room. There was never any kind of pull.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: I mean it felt comfortable where I was in Hades Base......

Omal: yes.

Russ: in your room. Is that maybe your energy or some other energy I borrowed that.....?

Omal: we'll let you work it out for yourself because it is part of the learning experience.

Russ: okay. So practice and don't ignore it.

Omal: correct.

Russ: okay. Is there a way I can lessen it maybe? I mean besides the practice.

Omal: practice is about the only way.

Russ: that is. Seems some kind of meditation?

Omal: no, because you have to make that jump to do it to get up your stamina as it were.

Russ: okay, fair enough. All right, I'll try that and so I might not stay as long as I'd like to, I'll at least be able to get up there more often.

Omal: yes, it is again a matter of building up stamina. Each time that you come up, stay a little bit longer or at least try.

Russ: okay.

Omal: okay, next question please.

Russ: coercion.

Omal: okay. You know it is not my field as much as Korton but Korton is indisposed unfortunately.

Russ: this is an easy one.

Omal: okay.

Russ: coercion with adults has been pretty easy lately.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: but tonight I tried to work with coercion on children.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: no luck.

Omal: okay.

Russ: in other words, I can get eye contact and Mark says if you can get down to their level it works better.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: but......

Omal: of course you know a work environment when you're working behind that area, you cannot get down to their level.

Russ: right. I was wondering if there was something about children that keeps them from being coerced?

Omal: they have not yet got the mental barriers in place that adults have, the mental taboos so their minds are open but yet they have natural shielding to protect them.

Russ: oh they do?

Omal: but as they get older it dissipates.

Russ: ohhhh.

Omal: and sometimes it dissipates more rapidly as the child gets older and older.

Russ: I see. So now if the child......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: first born in the world, has got memories say of past lives and things like shields, is that something he puts into his life at that point to work with?

Omal: yes, yes, and then as the child gets older, by surrounding practice it dissipates. That is why it has been stated in the past that the ideal learning age is of a child that is freshly born. That way you can work with them and get them to use their shields and then slowly their shields become stronger and stronger.

Russ: hmmm, I see, okay. Mark was wondering about his being able to work with the child up there that's about to be born.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: Kiri and his child about.......

Omal: their child.

Russ called their child, right.......any kind of influence that he might have....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: that might be more controlled over what he might be able to suggest.

Omal: you mean to say that we would interfere and guide the birth of the child?

Russ: something like that. Like he'd like to give it more of a military training like he got.

Omal: this will be taken care of at a more appropriate time.

Russ: okay. I only bring it up because we mentioned it the other day.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: okay. Now, let's go back to coercion if we could please.

Omal: okay.

Russ: okay.

Omal: you're being very formal this evening.

Russ: don't want to get into too many taboo subjects.

Omal: ahh, we will tell you when it is taboo.

Russ: oh, okay. I don't feel getting reprimanded is all.

Omal: after the incident the other night, you're a little bit nervous, huh?

Russ: a little bit nervous, a little gun shy.

Omal: that is understandable.

Russ: it's like being caught with my pants down you might say.

Omal: for all's you know I could be Ashtar masquerading as Omal.

Russ: no, not this time.

Omal: no true, too humorous.

Russ: too humorous and you're staying too long.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, back to coercion.

Omal: okay.

Russ: all right, what I'm trying to do now is work on a muscle reflex coercion.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: in other words, where if I want to flex my fingers, it's a mental command I have no control over and it's so fast that it does it without my even knowing practically.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: can coercion be controlled like that after repeated use?

Omal: yes it can but it takes practice and you have to be careful that it does not work when you don't want it to. That is why it is always advisable to use it when you wish to use it.

Russ: see, my problem is it's usually too slow.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: by the time I want to use it, I've lost eye contact.

Omal: yes. Then it is practice and holding the eye contact whilst you build up the time and the practice.

Russ: hmmm, okay. Now with people who have more of a history of association with me from past lives be more susceptible say to coercion than others who have never really met me?

Omal: possibly less because they know your mental pattern and they would be aware if they had been aware in the past that you were coercing them or of your capability.

Russ: hmmm. Yeah, I've noticed that with a lot of people that I know, I don't have as much luck coercing friends....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: who I feel like I've had more lives with than I do with complete strangers who have never had any association with.

Omal: it is again as we said because they're used to your mental pattern.

Russ: I see.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, I am noticing though what you mentioned one time before that in using coercion, you do get a feel for the person far deeper than just the.....

Omal: just the surface.

Russ: right. You can delve into what's going on just below the surface you might say.

Omal: uh-huh. Yes, you can almost establish a rapport and communicate with their deeper conscious.

Russ: right. Kind of scary sometimes just what people are thinking going through under the surface.

Omal: you would be surprised what people think.

Russ: I'm getting surprised actually.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: okay. Speaking of coercion, is that still an ongoing experiment or project for me?

Omal: yes. Because you have to carry on building up your stamina and capabilities such as your shields. You should still be working on them and refining them.

Russ: right, I will put them in the datebook then.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: but I remember Ashtar told me to be careful......

Omal: yes.

Russ: so I'm being more selective in my coercing usage.

Omal: yes. That is wise as Ashtar is always wise in these matters. Now it's my turn to sound formal.

Russ: that's all right. Okay. I noticed Ashtar was very concerned with our feelings towards the inhabitants of the Bat Planet.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: I'm wondering is that because you on fifth dimension have so much more idea of life after life type of thing that the multiple deaths of people is no longer a factor that's really important?

Omal: yes to a certain extent. Ashtar is interested in it and I, to further his understanding of your species, need to gauge you personally and the channeler and see, this one's a little bit more complicated, is to see what effect it will have when there is a mass dying on you and how you perceive it and feel it.

Russ: hmm. So he kind of got the impression from talking to me that Mark and I have completely different views on this.

Omal: yes. It was stated that your perception is different from Mark's perception.

Russ: right, but that's because I do regressions.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: I see people die numerous times in a single night sometimes.

Omal: yes.

Russ: but where Mark has seen physical death it's much more traumatic.

Omal: uh-huh. A physical death is not as pleasant as a spiritual death as it were.

Russ: right.

Omal: or a temporary spiritual rest.

Russ: yeah, there's no real difference though, is there?

Omal: hmmm.

Russ: spiritual death and physical death? There's no difference.

Omal: I'm not a theologian so I would not get into that kind of subject.

Russ: there's something to dwell on though.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: hours to dwell maybe.

Omal: yes.

Russ: okay. What's up that you'd like to talk to me about?

Omal: what do you want to know about?

Russ: manifestation actually.

Omal: the penny, huh?

Russ: yeah. Well, the penny part. Just say it's a part of manifestation.

Omal: yes, how to create it.

Russ: I've got the how to create it part....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: what I felt today doing a negative feedback loop is that I was gathering the same kind of energy I would use to create the penny.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: or other such objects that I might wish to manifest. It was solid enough to where I felt I could have reached out and touched it.

Omal: yeah.

Russ: now is that something close to what we're working on?

Omal: yes. We will cover manifestation in great detail at a later date. The same as we have covered coercion and shielding.

Russ: okay. That is still a project that should be worked on with the others.

Omal: yes, yes.

Russ: okay.

Omal: but again, we don't want you to indulge in too much as you'll burn yourself out.

Russ: right, that's what I'm trying to gauge what's important and what's not important at this time.

Omal: we will get to manifestation in due course. No need to get hasty and rush onto something before you have finished your current studies.

Russ: yeah. Currently it's coercion and farsighting...

Omal: and shielding.

Russ: and shielding, yeah.

            
SIDE ONE ENDS

SIDE TWO


(Omal comes on to finish up his time speaking)


(Russ starts humming the Jeopardy theme before Omal takes over and does it better)

Omal: yes.

Russ: it's more appropriate when you do it.

Omal: okay.

Russ: okay. Who else is on tonight?

Omal: we have the terrible twosome......

Russ: ohhh.

Omal: plus the terrible onesome.

Russ: okay. As far as questions on everything we've concerned, I'm exhausted.

Omal: okay, we will now hand over to...........somebody.

Russ: okay. Omal, thank you for your time and your patience.

Omal: patience?

Russ: I know it takes a lot of it sometimes.

Omal: I am in perfect functioning order, I'm not a patient.

Russ: oh.

Omal: okay.

Russ: that was perfectly droll.

Omal: yes, frightfully.

Russ: bye.

Omal: okay.

---

(Karra is the somebody)


Karra: greetings Beanpole.

Russ: hi Karra.

Karra: what's happening?

Russ: well this is getting interesting. I'm watching the exchange of energies as different entities take over.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: Omal came in kind of piecemeal. Kind of white and flaky kind of, taking over parts of the time whereas you kind of flow in like a river.........

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: you might say. It's kind of interesting to watch actually.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: tiring on the eyes though.

Karra: well, you've only got two more to do.

Russ: oh, good.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: eyes can last that long.

Karra: yes. Okay, so what's happening?

Russ: what's happening? Well, right now what's happening is negative feedback loops, coercion, farsighting, shielding and we're going to leave it at that for now.

Karra: yeah, it is best not to overindulge yourself as was stated by Omal.

Russ: correct. Okay, farsighting.

Karra: okay, I will try. I'm not a farsighter as you know.

Russ: I know, but you were there the other day when I was farsighting......

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: so you can give me some input about what happened.

Karra: okay, we can try.

Russ: great. When I was up there, I kept feeling this pull and it felt like half of me was wanting to be dragged back inch by inch back here while the other half of me was trying to fight it inch by inch to stay there.

Karra: yeah.

Russ: I was wondering what was happening to my body up there that you could see.

Karra: its power was fluctuating. One minute it would be more solid and bright and the next minute it would fade and then reestablish the strength and slightly a little bit elongated......

Russ: hmmm.

Karra: a little bit thinner.

Russ: okay, so that is that pull happening.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: because I was trying to get an idea of what I'm doing if I take it piece by piece getting......

Karra: yeah, it is practice I think would be the best bet.

Russ: right.

Karra: nice, steady practice. Don't rush it, take your time, you've got all the time in the world.

Russ: well, that's the question I always come up against.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: I don't always feel like I have all the time in the world. I feel like there is a rush.

Karra: well, we will still be here tomorrow.

Russ: that's true.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: but will I be? Okay, hopefully I'll be there tomorrow.

Karra: yes, hopefully.

Russ: okay, so how's everything going up there?

Karra: oh fine, fine.

Russ: oh, that's good. Working too hard?

Karra: of course.

Russ: oh.

Karra: being a mother does take a little bit of time out of my busy work schedule, it is more of a break. It's being enjoyed, mother and daughter time.

Russ: well now, are you getting the satisfaction of motherhood that maybe you haven't gotten before?

Karra: that's always satisfying.

Russ: because I remember with your son, it didn't seem like there was that tight bond you might say. Like I was a little surprised to hear you were concerned.

Karra: well, as we get older here because the length of time that we live, it isn't such a tight bond as with family.

Russ:: well, do you ever see Nazreal much?

Karra: I see him most days but again, he's just as busy as I am. But when we do need to spend time together it is much more precious than seeing somebody every day. Sometimes I would see him every day and then maybe for a month I don't see him at all. And then when I see him again, it is a very special time to be together.

Russ: now, how is he and Klarra doing?

Karra: like any older brother looking after a younger sister.

Russ: you've got that.

Karra: actually, it's not that bad at all.

Russ: that's good.

Karra: he is somebody else that I can use as a babysitter when necessary.

Russ: poor Klarra gets bounced around between three different hands.

Karra: oh, it is good for her.

Russ: it is?

Karra: yeah. Gives her a chance to strike a rapport with other people instead of being kept away.

Russ: hmmm.

Karra: means that she doesn't have a fear of somebody with blue skin or purple skin or all hairy.

Russ: "look mom, a big doggy". Just kidding.

Karra: I should be very careful what you say about those guys.

Russ: I know. I did have fun working with them on the snowboard idea though.

Karra: uh-huh. Yes, they have been known to rip people's arms off.

(Russ laughs at the movie reference)

Russ: I know where you got that one from.

Karra: yes, we had to dig and try to punch the right keys. And we hit it.

Russ: congratulations.

Karra: yes.

Russ: can you tell me if there was any more word on how they're doing with that those little experiments?

Karra: it is best to ask them as I am pretty busy however I can always make time for you.

Russ: well, thank you but I'll try to do it myself. It'll be good practice for me.

Karra: uh-huh. Yes, the energy buildup is enough time for me to be notified, to be there ready for you. I also have a new pair of shorts that I want to try out.

Russ: oh good. But yeah, I was doing a negative feedback loop, I wasn't sure if you might mistake that for farsighting.

Karra: I did it first and there was a different type of vibration that I was aware that it wasn't......

Russ: right, I wasn't focusing anywhere up there in certain stages.

Karra: uh-huh. It is a bit like a searchlight beam that when you put it on an object it illuminates it.

Russ: that makes sense.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: yeah, I'll be up there after this, say hi to you again in a little bit.

Karra: great, looking forward to it.

Russ: you bet.

Karra: okay.

Russ: I'll let you get back to your busy work you mentioned.

Karra: uh-huh. It is lunch time for some.

Russ: ahhh.

Karra: yes.

Russ: lucky person.

Karra: uh-huh, little person. Well, dinnertime actually.

Russ: thank you Karra, appreciate your help and I'll be up to see you soon.

---

(Kiri replaces her sister as speaker)


Russ: Kiri.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: gotcha.

Kiri: getting good, huh?

Russ: that was a blaze of energy. Everyone's got a different signature I'm noticing now that I'm starting to pay attention to it.

Kiri: maybe you be able to realize when it's the big boy.

Russ: I doubt it. It'll be so subtle.....

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: I won't realize....

Kiri: even know that he's in.

Russ: well with you, it's almost like a little cloud coming through.

Kiri: it's the first time I've been called that.

Russ: take it as complementary, it was meant to be.

Kiri: oh yes, most beautiful things, beautiful.

Russ: very stylish.

Kiri: uh-huh. It's surprising what you can see in clouds.

Rest: true.

Kiri: you get some big, fat clouds that look like whales.

Russ: yeah, I've seen all kinds of stuff in them.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: have you ever tried cloud materialization?

Kiri: it's not one of my hobbies.

Russ: ahh. I've tried it a few times......

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: it's lots of fun.

Kiri: I've got better things to do with my time.

Russ: anyway, did you get to ever see Mark? Well I guess you haven't seen him yet.

Kiri: no, not yet. I'm looking forward to it.

Russ: he said he'll come up and see you a bunch.

Kiri: uh-huh. Yes, I'm getting urges.

Russ: oh oh.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: these don't include ice cream and pickles I take it?

Kiri: no.

Russ: well that's good. Anymore food urges that I should know about?

Kiri: nothing of interest.....

Russ: okay.

Kiri: apart from raw fish.

Russ: sushi.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: oh, good stuff.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: it's one of my favorite foods.

Kiri: yeah. But with red wine?

Russ: no, sake.

Kiri: I don't get to drink red wine to eight months.

Russ: that's.....

Kiri: unusual.....

Russ: yeah.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: to say the least.

Kiri: it's when I get down to the raw liver you've got to watch out.

Russ: ohhhh.....

Kiri: I've been told that some people do get the urge for raw liver. You know who I'm talking about?

Russ: yes, Tia.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: I avoid it myself. So what's going on up there?

Kiri: oh, nothing much, nothing much. I'm kinda getting bored with nothing to do.

Russ: getting a little weighty around the edges there?

Kiri: uh-huh. Well I've got three months and one week approximately to go.

Russ: hey, all right.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: had the baby shower yet or who is planning it?

Kiri: do it near the time. I'm starting to get........having to look for different types of garments and clothing.

Russ: what can I bring you, what kind of gift maybe?

Kiri: well, isn't it meant to be a surprise?

Russ: well what does he need?

Kiri: how about a little pair of skis?

Russ: I'll work on it.

Kiri: even if they're only symbolic it would be nice.

Russ: yeah, something to grow into.

Kiri: uh-huh, yep.

Russ: all right. So everything's going good up there so far?

Kiri: uh-huh, yeah. Sorry?

Russ: I was good to say, has Tia taught you how to update?(?)

Kiri: no, spend quite a bit of my spare time in swimming pools.

Russ: oh. See, if you had Tia's trick down, you'd be in better shape yet.

Kiri: well, most of my energy is done to other things at the moment.

Russ: true.

Kiri: trying to establish a rapport with a self-centered mind is a little bit difficult at times. It's becoming more aware.

Russ: it is?

Kiri: yes.

Russ: oh. So it's an individual awareness?

Kiri: uh-huh. It's not as self-centered as it was to start off with when it started to become aware.

Russ: hmnm. Because this is interesting. I've never talked to an operant pregnant woman before.

Kiri: yes, you have.

Russ: who, Karra?

Kiri: yes.

Russ: well yeah, but that was too close to the time...

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: this is from the start we're talking about.

Kiri: oh, yeah.

Russ: formation.....

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: mental signatures, it's the whole nine yards. I can see the detail.

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: sounds a little bit too rushed.

Kiri: hmm.

Russ: but this is kind of interesting.

Kiri: so what did you want to know then?

Russ: well, we were working on coercion earlier.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: I know that's your specialty.

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: so I thought you'd be the perfect person to ask.

Kiri: okay. If I was standing up I'd widen my hips. But there that might look very amusing with this.......this inflated stomach syndrome.

Russ: right. Maybe you can tell me, when you work to coerce somebody.....

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: is there a point that you focus on?

Kiri: into their eyes or if they have the back of her head to me roughly about the center.

Russ: okay. So, you're not focusing on any one eye, it's both eyes at once.

Kiri: yes, it's eye to eye contact.

Russ: oh, so both eyes to both eyes.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: because I've been practicing with one eye.....

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: because I can get a tighter beam that way.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: I was wondering....

Kiri: each individual eye generates a tight beam.

Russ: ohhhh, so it's actually two tight beams.

Kiri: yes. But if you're doing it eye to eye, you can cause confusion more than one eye, both eyes to one eye.

Russ: how so?

Kiri: you're putting too much information through one eye.

Russ: oh. Well, you just said that two eyes.....

Kiri: with eye to eye contact is easier instead of two eyes to one eye.

Russ: ohh. I see. Because you're getting like left brain information into a right brain...

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: it's mixing it all up.

Kiri: uh-huh, you get a star.

Russ: I see. So you want to go left brain to left brain and right brain to right brain.

Kiri: hmmm, yeah. But of course if you're facing somebody it's the opposite way around.

Russ: oh, I see.

Kiri: as long as you're getting the information in there.

Russ: right brain into left brain.

Kiri: uh-huh. It is like the poles on a compass.

Russ: right, it still works.

Kiri: uh-huh. Got any ideas on what I could wear that would be more comfortable instead of these rent a tent type things?

Russ: as a matter of fact I do, they're called sweatpants.

Kiri: ohh. Will it look charming and delightful?

Russ: on you anything would look charming and delightful but especially because these are warm.

Kiri: well, it might make me look like I'm kinda sticking out in the middle.

Russ: well yeah, but you are anyway so it doesn't really matter.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: you're not looking for fashion.

Kiri: no.

Russ: well, you are looking for comfort, right?

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: okay, while these are made out of fleece. The inside is very soft, furry kind of....

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and they stretch.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: so they stretch to fit your form...

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: like an elastic band around your waist so no matter how big you get, it always grows out with you.

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: a little tie or string you loosen them or tighten them as you need to.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and they're great to wander around in and they're warm and they're comfortable.

Kiri: well, the heat isn't too much of a problem up here.

Russ: right.

Kiri: think I might go over to the Wookie compound and throw snowballs at people later on. Yeah, I can get away with a lot at the moment.

Russ: yeah, who's going to throw a snowball at you?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: of course, you're not a very small target to miss anymore.

Kiri: no, I'm not that long, slender, long legged individual.

Russ: no you're not. You're a boa constrictor with a bowling ball.

Kiri: yeah, something like that. Presumably, this is one of your slippery when wet files.

Russ: that's the ones. And then a bowling ball would be one of our sporting balls with three holes in it for knocking down pins.

Kiri: uh-huh, or knocking things up.

Russ: I won't touch that.

Kiri: no, don't.

Russ: I won't.

Kiri: okay.

Russ: thank you very much Kiri.

Kiri: trying to get rid of me now, huh? We're going to stay, we're going to stay, we're going to stay.

Russ: I wouldn't mind for you to stay.

Kiri: uh-huh. I wish I was a farsighter. I have limited farsighting. It is limited, it's maximum capability is from one side of the base to the other and that's it.

Russ: that's it?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: I can farsight more than you can?

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: well, you can coerce me under a bridge.

Kiri: oh yeah, I can coerce you through several miles of rock as well.

Russ: yes, that's very true and over a few thousand miles distance.

Kiri: uh-huh, a few million.

Russ: millions of miles of distance?

Kiri: uh-huh. Well, I do it through the channeler on this.

Russ: yeah. I can't coerce you through the channeler so you've got me there.

Kiri: that's right. You're asking for trouble.

Russ: yes I am. I'll just leave that one for well over.

Kiri: uh-huh. Well, we're going to go and sit outside an office for a little while and there's an ice box full of snowballs so we can have some fun.

Russ: I can't wait to hear the results.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: Kiri, thank you very much. Thanks for your information.

Kiri: okay.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: we're going to make like a flock of seagulls and wing our way out of here. Yeah, it doesn't rhyme right, does it?

Russ: not bad.

Kiri: okay.

Russ: all right, well, have a pleasant winging.

Kiri: see you in a little while.

Russ: yep.

Kiri: I'm going to go down and try those whatsit's? Sweatpants?

Russ: sweatpants, yeah.

Kiri: I was hoping for something a little bit more, you know.

Russ: well, there are leotards.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: but I don't know if they'd fit your form.

Kiri: we can try.

Russ: it would be a lot more sexy.

Kiri: uh-huh. I was looking more in the lines of a swimsuit. One of those two-piece ones?

Russ: I only know of fashion.

Kiri: oh well, bye.

Russ: bye love.

---

(Tia comes on to wrap up the session for a change)


Tia: huh?

Russ: hi Tia.

Tia: well?

Russ: I didn't see you come in.

Tia: I'm being clever, aren't I?

Russ: oh yeah, that's quick.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: how's it going?

Tia: oh, you know, working on the stealth program.

Russ: it's working well.

Tia: I'm surprised you didn't see me, I came in nice and gentle.

Russ: no blips on my radar.

Tia: oh dear.

Russ: oh well. Yeah, I was talking to Kiri about the fact that it would be nice if she could levitate.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: I was gonna say, when you get that way you're gonna have a great time.

Tia: yeah, levitating.

Russ: won't have to worry about gravity pushing down your belly and all that stuff like that.

Tia: no, uh-huh. I'll be a hot babe floating. Like a fish through the air.

Russ: like a whale.

Tia: a porpoise.

Russ: right, yeah.

Tia: isn't that a very financially depressed feline?

Russ: uhhhhh.

Tia: poor puss.

Russ: God.

Tia: come on, give us a break.

Russ: with jokes like that you want a break too? Oh God.

Tia: I thought it was funny.

Russ: hilarious. I'm sure when I listen to the tape I'm going to laugh a million laughs.

Tia: meyoww.

Russ: okay, well Mark will get a good chuckle out of that.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: so how's life going on Hades Base, Tia?

Tia: oh, you know, skiing, working on my farsighting, processing data, getting generally...........well, you know.

Russ: right.

Tia: squared off from the edges.

Russ: I don't really have any questions or anything for you.

Tia: oh.

Russ: I'd just like to have a conversation with you.

Tia: okay. Ohhh.

Russ: what was that?

Tia: it was just Kiri.

Russ: oh.

Tia: she's leaving.

Russ: oh.

Tia: it's kind of a farewell, see you later type thing.

Russ: I'll bet.

Tia: yeah. Time and patience. When you go solid, she'll give you something to remember her by.

Russ: I'm amazed that I'm not supposed to rush and here I am wanting to rush up there even now.

Tia: well, perhaps I shouldn't have told you that.

Russ: oh, that's all right. I can't leave anyway.

Tia: no. Besides, by the time you came, she can't.

Russ: right, Karra can.

Tia: uh-huh. Well, when I get ahold of him I'm going to sort his brains out for him.

Russ: oh, it's all a bunch of complicated mental stuff.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: I'm sure it will just complicate your life.

Tia: yeah, maybe. Perhaps it's best that I don't know what he does. But I sure will miss...

Russ: wish I didn't know.

Tia: yeah. I sure will miss our little practice time together.

Russ: he's been trying to make time for you, it's just Korton wants to monopolize his time.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: he can't do what he wants to do.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: but that's mostly the case of what we've have down here......

Tia: yeah.

Russ: I'm sure you have the same problems up there sometimes.

Tia: uh-huh. There's times where I'd like to be with Mark and spend time together learning or with Kiri around, it's kind of tough to have to do my work.

Russ: do you ever get lonely?

Tia: yeah, uh-huh.

Russ: I was just thinking that with telepathy and all the people up there you would never get lonely. I just realized maybe that's not the case.

Tia: well we do get lonely from time to time. We can always call somebody up but if everybody's busy, they don't get the opportunity because once you're doing data processing, that's all you do. And if all your friends are busy doing data processing which does happen from time to time, that's why I go farsighting.

Russ: oh, I'll bet.

Tia: hmmm.

Russ: well I guess a solution maybe I'll try next time I come up, I'll try to see if I can drop off a mental tape of the latest concerts I went to.

Tia: yeah, that would be fun.

Russ: oh, great tapes I've made of the Grateful Dead and stuff.

Tia: uh-huh. Oh, we've got a pretty big library up here, we'll probably add it to the library as well.

Russ: excellent, you'll enjoy it. I spend a lot of time in my free time listening to it, it sure cheers me right up.

Tia: could we mention the hairy guys listening to it?

(Russ laughs)

Russ: yeah, as a matter of fact, I think they'd have a great time listening to songs like Casey Jones, Truckin.....

Tia: turn them into a bunch of hairy biker types.

Russ: hairy Deadheads.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: it works for me.

Tia: yeah, it does. Nice mental pictures that go with it.

Russ: it does.

Tia: uh-huh. I'd like to get them wearing.......

Russ: tie-dye.

Tia: yeah.

Russ: yeahhhh.

Tia: uh-huh. But there again they might probably get too hot in it.

Russ: that's no problem, we'll just dye their fur.

Tia: big, hairy, sweaty, tie-dye pictures. Not.

Russ: not. Oh God, get ourselves in trouble now.

Tia: uh-huh. Well, I'll get into trouble but I'll handle it though.

Russ: oh, well that's good to hear.

Tia: yeah, they've still got a trophy of mine.

Russ: trophy? Oh, yes they do.

(A bikini top of hers when she was in a pool with them one time)

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: long time ago.

Tia: uh-huh. I've got an even better one now, much better.

Russ: oh.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: oh well, they'll be gunning for that soon.

Tia: leave something to the imagination.

Russ: but not much.

Tia: you said it, not me.

Russ: that's true. Oh, you're in a good mood tonight.

Tia: uh-huh, I am.


 
THE TAPE ENDS