The Flat Tire Theory and the Great Pyramid-

Channeled (05/11/1994)

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Archivist Notes: The channeling session for June starts us on a series of sessions from 1994. This one is from May of that year and gets a lot of knowledge shared over just the four speakers available to channel. The first of those is Tia who explains how her infant triplets were able to create a meta-concert that generated enough heat to burn up a stuffed teddy bear. An amazing feat as grown adults on their dimension would have a tough time doing that. Tia confirms that knowledge came from past lives were they had done the same in previous incarnations the three of them had shared. Some explanation is needed for what we covered next on the names of the triplets. When they were still in the womb, they were giving Tia grief and asking her questions about the third dimension. I was asked to talk to them mentally to help out. I did so and that the same time I related my knowledge about Greek goddesses to them. From that they took their names of Athena, Minerva, and Diana. We next cover the mechanics of a dimensional jump before we stop the tape to let Sarah speak to us off tape. Once the tape is back on, our first guest speaker is ready and the head of communications for Ashtar Command, Korton, takes over and begins answering questions from my brother. He asked about expanding his brain potential so Korton suggested concentrating on something or comprehending a specific goal. We finally get to a question about parallel universes and that is when things get interesting. He poses many other possible alternatives to World War II as examples of how those scenarios took place in different universes, just that we didn't know about them in this one but we did in those ones. We end things with his reassuring me that paradoxes caused due to time travel are impossible. Should time travel be discovered, it would just create new timelines where we would not be aware of their existence. Omal wraps things up for this side with theories about the great pyramid we had been discussing previously. He points out that archaeologists and historians all agree on which Pharaoh built the pyramid partially based on an inscription painted on a ceiling. He notes there is no way that could happen and explains why which leaves open our knowledge it was built long before the pharaohs. He also questions the accepted construction methods used as it would have involved wood for boats and wood for the rollers to move the stones. Where did all that wood come from in a desert environment? We continue that discussion on the next side.

We get back the topic to learn that the pyramid wasn't built by a spacefaring race but the descendants of a spacefaring race from long ago. We also know from a previous channeling session that the plans for the great pyramid were not from earth but rescued from Atlantis. We next discuss the people from the time of the pyramid building and how their brain usage was much higher than it is now but dropped dramatically ever since. The good news is it has been growing with the potential to grow even more. One key thing we do learn is that when it hurts to concentrate on something, it means there is brain growth taking place. That brings up the question of geniuses and their known idiosyncrasies. He gives a good reason for why they are and then answers questions about his own position as head of Hades Base to end things. Karra is our next speaker and we have the major healing of Carrie scheduled in a week or so at that time. She has a list that's pretty short this time of the last few items she will need. For those who don't know, Carrie had been diagnosed with cancer and told she could never have children. The healing we discuss is one where they got over a hundred people to join in a meta-concert that we focused through myself and a crystal down here. The healing was successful and she has a daughter who now posts regularly on Facebook. We next go over a trip Mark and I had planned for a local New Age center where Kiri and Tia would channel through Mark and take over his body while checking things out. The monitors on the base could then give more information on the energies involved we were checking out. We next get to a funny recent incident where Mark and I had attended the Pink Floyd Pulse concert tour and, on the way back from the Oakland Coliseum, I let Karra take over my body and drive the car while I watched from inside my mind. Normally it is the other way around so we got a have a good laugh afterwards. Last to speak for the evening was Tia to finish things up. With the main information already gone over, we were just chatting about anything as we sometimes did to end a tape and this time we traded jokes before going over plans about a Renaissance fair Mark and I would be working. Just then I spot a spider and we get into trying to catch it to let it outside. That doesn't go well and the spider gets out into the room somewhere behind Mark. Tia, is very defensive of Mark, so we go over ways to deal with the situation before she breaks into her Incey Wincy song. It's just after that Tia discovers that purring through another's body is very hard when the tongue isn't designed the same as her her body. The session comes to an end and another good one gets added to the archives of Ashtar Command.
 

In love, light, and wisdom as one,
Russ and Karra
                                     

SPEAKERS
ATTENDEES
TIA- Ring Mistress
MARK CROCKER (Channel)
KORTON RUSS HATFIELD (Archivist)
OMAL
KARRA





SIDE 1

1.)(0:00)- Tia's infant triplets accidentally created a meta-concert which burned up a stuffed bunny and we get into the mechanics of a D jump and how you have to create an energy vortex in front of you.
2.)(16:19)- Korton addresses a theory about parallel universes wondering if we have control over events. He reveals much depends on the precognition of the possibilities. We also discuss her being short staffed.
3.)(37:54)- Omal questions a few unexplained details of the Great Pyramid that have puzzled mankind. If wood boats carried the blocks and wood rollers were moving the blocks, where did the wood come from?

SIDE 2

1.)(0:00)-  Omal continues on with who built the Great Pyramid and how the human brain usage came from a low point to where we are now. We next get his take on his position as head of Hades Base.
2.)(13:54)- Karra discusses the items she would need for the big healing planned for Carrie. From there we move on to a visit where Kiri and her would take over Mark so they could monitor the expected energies.
3.)(24:57)- Tia and I trade jokes before finding out we can't recreate a Renaissance fair on the base using the hologram room because it can onlt be used for work. A large spider then joins the channeling session.

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SIDE ONE


(Tia gets a busy session started)


Tia: ........comfortably? Then we shall begin.

Russ: ahh, excellent, excellent, excellent. Okay, now, how are we doing tonight Tia?

Tia: fine.

Russ: that's good to hear.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: it's May 10th, 1994 and welcome to the flat tire theory session.

Tia: and.......

Russ: and what?

Tia: time.

Russ: it's 9:30.

Tia: okay, so it's May the 11th, in the year nineteen hundred and ninety-four at 9:30 PM.

Russ: great.

Tia: okay.

Russ: very well.

(Tia agrees in Durondedunn as does Russ)

Russ: all right, now, we're working on this evening various theories, problems, and associated things.

Tia: and their universes.

Russ: yes, so we'll start with your children........

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: and the latest exploits of a particular threesome.

Tia: well, I only got three.

Russ: well, can't have any more than that, but.....

Tia: not for a while yet anyway.

Russ: not for a while yet.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: now, but what I'm interested in is the fire display they made this morning.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: and I wanted to know more about that since I didn't know they could make fire and in the second place they weren't trying for fire.......

Tia: no.

Russ: so how is it they were able to set little bunny rabbit on fire?

Tia: well, you know when you use energies right?

Russ: okay.

Tia: it creates heat....

Russ: right.

Tia: uh-huh. So what happens when you create too much heat? You have spontaneous combustion.

Russ: right.

Tia: things going kabloey and whosh.

Russ: certainly.

Tia: sizzle, sizzle, crackle, crackle, crackle, crackle....sizzle.

Russ: now, with that in mind, how is it that Minerva was doing the meta-concert and not Diana?

Tia: hmmm.....

Russ: why wasn't she in charge?

Tia: I think they swapped over.

Russ: oh, the two girls......

Tia: yeah.

Russ: they swapped over.

Tia: uh-huh, they do that from time to time. They get bored with one doing all the work.

Russ: now, what did they do afterwards, start squealing?

Tia: yeah, in fun, squealing with delight and giggling.

Russ: well, the bunny they wanted turned to toast.

Tia: well, we got them a new one.

Russ: that's good.

Tia: uh-huh. I love my little kittens......cubs. Jumping all over the place.

Russ: absolutely. Are you back to work yet?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: they're in the crèche now so you.....

Tia: yeah, they've been in the crèche for the past three months.

Russ: wow.

Tia: well, not continuously, I pick them up at night when I get off work.

Russ: yeah, but how come you can't like........why do they spend so early in school when they could be......?

Tia: it's a day care center.

Russ: yeah, but why don't you watch over them while they're there all the time? Why go right away back to work?

Tia: well, it was six months ago that I gave birth to them.

Russ: yeah, but that's in day school by three months? Mothers down here have got like.......

Tia: start them learning early.

Russ: well they're not really learning, are they? It's just interacting, aren't they?

Tia: yes, they're learning how to interact and the fact being that we are short staffed. We are gladly taking applications for employment.

Russ: well, if I can come up there and I can personally fill one out and leave it with you I would and of course the commute would be real hell on me.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: but it's worth a shot. Besides, you got Mark.

Tia: yeah.

Russ: could be worse. Now, with three months in to the crèche.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: how much time does that give you to spend with the kids now?

Tia: about sixteen hours a day. I sleep for twelve of it so that leaves me four hours to play with them.

Russ: oh, wow, that's it? That's nothing.

Tia: well, I am only working five days a week.

Russ: oh, that's good.

Tia: so I have Thursdays and Fridays with them.

Russ: oh. Well, what are you working on now?

Tia: well, I'm working with Luna in research of historical information.

Russ: and what have you found out lately?

Tia: I'll let Luna tell you.

Russ: is she coming in?

Tia: maybe.

Russ: okay, I'll wait for Luna then on that one. All right, now, as I remember......

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: we never went through the principles of meta-concert with the kittens.....cubs. How did they learn it? Is it hereditary?

Tia: no, I think it's something that they picked up from past lives.

Russ: that's right, hereditary then.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: past lives.

Tia: past lives, yes. Hereditary is when it comes from one or the other parent.

Russ: right, in this case it would be.....what do you call it when it comes to past lives?

Tia: past life experience.

Russ: oh. Another interesting fact that I want to come up with is the names.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: and that is the fact that your girls picked Greek goddesses to be named after.

Tia: well, somebody was partly responsible for that.

Russ: it wasn't my fault.

Tia: ooooohhhhhhhh.

Russ: it wasn't. I merely showed them their past lives and mentioned the fact they looked like Greek goddesses in that.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: how did I know they would come up with names like that? I didn't even give them......well yes, I did give them the names of the Greek goddesses to choose from.

Tia: uh-huh. So, who is responsible?

Russ: they are, they liked them.

Tia: yes, but it was your idea.

Russ: but they chose. They could've chose Japanese princesses for all I know.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: now, the thing is though, does that come back upon past life experiences then?

Tia: yeah, uh-huh. See, all three of them have worked very close together in past lives and have been either mother and daughters, sisters, aunties to each other, various points.

Russ: right. When I worked with them they were sisters together...

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: and so that would be the key that would remind them of what's going on with this life because here they are again, sisters again.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, what's the word with Carrie?

Tia: Carrie? Oh, she's fine.

Russ: are you doing any work with her?

Tia: uh-huh, a little work from time to time when I get some free time.

Russ: hmm.

Tia: when I'm not preoccupied with my exercises.

Russ: oh, that's good. And now, I need a little bit of last-minute work with astral projection. So.....

Tia: rookie, rookie.

Russ: yeah, yeah, yeah, right. Remember how you got there in the first place.

Tia: well, we all make mistakes from time to time.

(Tia's D jump from her home planet almost killed her before being rescued)

Russ: well I'm taking mine nicely step by step so I don't make the same mistakes you did.

Tia: that's right.

Russ: right. Okay, now, avoiding a D jump.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: can it happen accidentally?

Tia: yes.

Russ: okay.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: how do you avoid having them happen accidentally?

Tia: you don't put yourself in that mode.

Russ: how do you keep yourself from going into that mode? Because your desire is there to do so.

Tia: hmmm.

Russ: that's half the battle right there.

Tia: yeah. Okay, how to avoid a D jump? The mode is that when you go into astral travel, right? You accelerate really, really rapidly, right? Don't you?

Russ: uh-huh.

Tia: you create a energy vortex in front of you......

Russ: right.

Tia: and you punch through into another dimension.

Russ: right.

Tia: and if you slow down a bit, you're not going to have that vortex being able to punch through into another dimension.

Russ: right. Yeah, but then you still get into the other dimension......

Tia: uh-huh. But you're not creating that necessary tear, that necessary punch. It's a much more slower pace. It's all to do with speed and energy.

Russ: I see.

Tia: uh-huh. If you take it nice and leisurely, instead of taking you five minutes to get up there, you take ten minutes.

Russ: okay.

Tia: that reduces the chance by a factor of ten.

Russ: all right. Now, the key I am looking at right here is the fact that it's sort of like......I want to put this into an analogy.......like planes going through the sound barrier.

Tia: yes.

Russ: okay. Anything under the sound barrier would keep you in from having to do a D jump.

Tia: correct.

Russ: anything above that and you break the sound barrier.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: or in other words, in this case, you go through into a D jump.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: okay. So in other words, you still break through from 3rd to 4th to 5th....

Tia: yeah, uh-huh.

Russ: without having......

Tia: from, not to. From 3rd to 4th to 5th....

Russ: right. So when Mark does a D jump, he is going super fast.....

Tia: yeah.

Russ: and he's punching through.

Tia: uh-huh. Plus, I estimate he's probably going about close to three or four times the speed of light.

Russ: okay. So, when I want to do a D jump, when I'm ready for it.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: then what I'll be doing is increasing my speed.

Tia: correct.

Russ: okay. And how do I manage to D jump once I do it? I mean it's pretty disorienting like it was for Mark.

Tia: uh-huh, yeah. But that's something you have to get used to. The more you do it the less noticeable it is until it gets to the point where no longer do you suffer from the deep freeze syndrome or the shakes or being extremely hot, it's like a normal experience.

Russ: I see. So up until then I won't go solid.

Tia: no, you have to be able to do that to go solid. I mean, from time to time you can do it by just sheer mass of energy.

Russ: so Tia, now we come to your problem.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: now, you remember what I was mentioning about before, about your efforts to go solid down here.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: does that mean you are not applying the speed necessary to do the same jump that Mark does?

Tia: no.

Russ: or is it the fact that it's a denser...

Tia: it's a denser dimension.

Russ: okay. So increasing the speed won't help you?

Tia: no.

Russ: no matter how fast you go?

Tia: no matter how fast I go.

Russ: so what's the key for you then?

Tia: energy, and I don't have that much energy to do it with. I have to take the energy with me to do it.

Russ: so why can't Mark help?

Tia: because it has to be my supply of energy.

Russ: why?

Tia: because that's the way it is. It's my signature that triggers my energy to do the work.

Russ: I see, I see. So there's nothing Mark can do to help you out himself.

Tia: no, so we have to figure out other means.

Russ: instead of a help wanted sign down here, we could have you fill out the position for that.

Tia: sorry?

Russ: someone to help clean this house up once in a while.

Tia: that would be easy. I would just sit down, pour myself a cup of tea and go....

(Tia waves her arms around)

Russ: yeah, I know. PK everything in the place. Well?

Tia: uh-huh. Do I have to explain hand movements and everything like me pointing in various directions like energy flowing from my fingers to move things?

Russ: no, I'll just do that.

Tia: oh.

Russ: but if you recall, there's a certain movie, didn't I show that to you or your kids or Alex?

Tia: which one?

Russ: Mary Poppins. Who did I show that to? Alex.

Tia: you showed it to Alex.

Russ: I showed it to Alex and Kiri about took my head off.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: "rot his brain".

Tia: she's very much like Mark in that respect, isn't she?

Russ: absolutely.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: it's a great movie.

Tia: yes.

Russ: because he learned, he saw someone using PK to clean up a room.

Tia: spit spot.

Russ: I thought that would be like an educational program for him. She took it completely the wrong way.

Tia: I'm not getting involved in that.

Russ: all right, I'll take it up with her when she gets here.

Tia: yeah.

Russ: we'll have fun.

Tia: if she gets here.

Russ: oh, where is she?

Tia: not too sure.

Russ: okay. So who's on on base tonight anyway?

Tia: well, we have a guest speaker.

(Russ sighs)

Tia: we have Omal and Korton and Karra.

Russ: well guest speakers, sometimes they're really great and sometimes they can scare my bones.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, sounds good, that's a good lineup.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: and what about Luna?

Tia: possibly, that's up in the air.

Russ: okay.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: anyway, we're looking forward to a fun, family oriented session this evening.......right? And you're doing very well with it....

Tia: okay, what I'm going to do is, I'm going to put the guest speaker on, all right?

Russ: okay.

Tia: and it might be necessary for you kill the tape because that person's a little bit nervous.....

Russ: oh, okay.

Tia: and she might say irrelevant things.

Russ: okay, we're exiting the tape now.

(We hear the tape get turned on and off)

(The missing time is when Sarah was speaking for a bit)

Tia: here you are.

Russ: thanks love. Well good to hear it, good to hear it.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: well she sounds like she's doing really well.

Tia: it's a pretty scared little girl at the moment. Well little, she's taller than I am.

Russ: everyone's taller than you are except for your kids.

Tia: yeah. She walked out of here with her walking sick.

Russ: well that's good.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: well hopefully that helped her though about the fact that down here on earth....

Tia: yeah.

Russ: she would be ex leg, ex hand forever and ever and ever.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: at least there she gets a second chance.

Tia: and a third maybe. Talked to one of your pilot buddies.

Russ: oh really?

Tia: hmm. He's spending time with Lyka to help her.

Russ: oh, that's good, so they can kinda counsel each other.

Tia: yeah.

Russ: she sounds like she's really in awe of Karra though.

Tia: yeah, I think she has a bit.

Russ: I tried to help her get over it a little bit. I kind of put her in a light that she's just another person.

Tia: uh-huh. You did make her blush with that comment from Kiri about Kiri.

Russ: oh, that one, yeah. Glad I could help.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: okay. Well, I guess we're ready for whoever's next. I don't have much in the way of questions tonight.

Tia: okay, okay.

Russ: but I'll figure stuff out before you come back.

Tia: all right.

Russ: okay.





(Korton is the night's guest speaker)


Korton: greetings and felicitations.

Russ: greetings Korton.

Korton: greetings and how are you functioning?

Russ: well within specified parameters. In fact, pushing the limits.

Korton: that is good.

Russ: indeed it is, very good in fact.

Korton: okay, let us proceed.

Russ: okay. All right, this evening, we're doing a tape from.....

Korton: yes, we are aware.

Russ: okay, good. In that case, we'll jump right in to our first subject and that is my brother raises the question of how can he push the limits of his brain to their maximum potential? He knows he can't reach 100% of brain usage but he'd like to find out........

Korton: try for him to reason out various things that he does not understand. If you remember, we discussed a while back the headache when you are concentrating on something. When you are trying to understand or comprehend a specific goal that you are trying to head for, how a headache will be present and that is expanding your brain capacity.

Russ: uh-huh.

Korton: and when you think back on the matter that gave you a headache it doesn't give you as bad as one.

Russ: right.

Korton: so you pick a subject and you think on it and try to reason it out and discuss it with other people.

Russ: uh-huh. And then hopefully if you don't get a headache you get something close to it I am sure.

Korton: yes.

Russ: right. And each time it's just pushing that muscle, strengthening it and strengthening it.

Korton: correct.

Russ: okay. Now, does it matter what the subject is? I mean, it doesn't have to be metaphysical...

Korton: no.

Russ: it could be just about anything.

Korton: yes. Mathematics, engineering problems, design problems, construction problems.....

Russ: right, because he's an inventor.

Korton: yes.

Russ: and he has a couple ideas that he says he wants to work on in this lifetime that he wishes to bring about for the world and one is a teleportation device and one is a method of making a writing material that is not paper but better than paper. Now, the teleportation device he says we already have access to the technology that will allow us to build that. I personally don't understand how we can even have that technology when we can't even figure our mass transit system yet.

Korton: sorry, we cannot discuss that.

Russ: oh, that's right, nevermind. How about the paper question?

Korton: the paper question. It depends on what sort of material you are looking for. A material that is flexible and paperlike but does not degrade over a period of time. Or, are you looking for a substance that is hard and degrades after a set period of time? Or, what?

Russ: I would say answer A and, in that case, there's only one substance we have that would fulfill those roles, plastic.

Korton: correct.

Russ: so what would have to be done is creating a form of thin plastic that would be writable. So it would have to be white, it would have to be able to be a soft content.......

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: that would absorb ink or pencils or whatever.

Korton: so you wish to construct something with super large molecules, correct?

Russ: right, absolutely. Hmmm.

Korton: maybe trying to decrease the size of the molecules slightly so that they are the same amount as there would be but less tightly packed due to the decrease in size.

Russ: ahh, I see, so they'd be a loose bonded form of molecules.

Korton: correct.

Russ: and it would allow for the flexibility that we're looking for and also the marketability that we're looking for.

Korton: correct.

Russ: all right. And so it would be an expensive process but it could be mass-produced and brought down in price.

Korton: yes.

Russ: I see, okay. Take a bit of chemical engineering on that one.

Korton: yes.

Russ: hmm. But it would last forever practically.

Korton: do you wish for that to be so?

Russ: something that wouldn't biodegrade?

Korton: correct.

Russ: that's a good question. I mean, what happens if you have to throw away a sheet if you goof it up? You just created a waste that's not going to go away for the next 20,000 years.

Korton: it is a little less than that before plastic starts to break down.

Russ: well they have degradable plastic now.

Korton: exactly, that is what you should go for. Not a non-biodegradable but a biodegradable type.

Russ: ahhh. Now don't the biodegradable's use a large molecule anyway to start with?

Korton: yes.

Russ: which helps them break down easier?

Korton: yes.

Russ: so that's half your battle right there.

Korton: uh-huh. You decrease the size slightly which means that it is a little bit more absorbent.

Russ: I see. Plus, the fact that in those biodegradable plastics, they're making those out of plastics that are being recycled.

Korton: exactly.

Russ: so not only would you be reducing the amount of plastics already, you'd be helping to reduce plastics in the future because they'd be biodegradable.

Korton: correct.

Russ: be a good plan, I like that. Okay, good. Now the next question is on where we're dealing with
parallel universes.

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: and in this, he is presented to me what he calls the flat tire theory. And that is that where I explained the concept of parallel universes, he brought forth the theory that basically that would not matter because we take for example a tire on a car. Now, when a tire wears down to a certain point it reaches a stress point. The tire then goes out, it blows.

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: and there's nothing you can do about that stress point, when it's reached, it will blow.

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: and so he says that there is no way that you would have any control over that situation, it's gonna blow one way or another and that you can apply this to life. Same thing with the world....

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: it's going to reach a stress point and it's going to blow.

Korton: but that is in this universe.

Russ: right.

Korton: the best way to explain it is every major event has many possible outcomes. And in an infinite number of different alternate universes, every possible, conceivable outcome can occur and has occurred. Let us take our fabled 1939 to 1945 conflict.

Russ: oh, World War II, yeah.

Korton: yes. First of all, let us look at the beginning. 1939, Hitler invades Poland.

Russ: right.

Korton: that occurred in your universe. In another universe, it did not occur. And in another universe, Poland won. In another universe, it was a stalemate. In another universe, Great Britain and France attacked Germany from behind. In another universe, Poland beat Germany and invaded Germany. Russia came in on the side of Poland.

Russ:  uh-huh.

Korton: Poland beat Russia and so on.

Russ: right. Now, in a lot of those, my parents never met due to the aspects of the world would not allow that meeting to take place.

Korton: correct.

Russ: so therefore, I'm not in many of those outcomes that would have happened.

Korton: correct.

Russ: and those that I am in, would be a much different world from what I perceive now.

Korton: agreed. The variations are so wide that you can take ten thousand alternate universes and only a hundred of those are habitable.

Russ: oh.

Korton: maybe two hundred, it depends. I'm taken a number.

Russ: right. Well now he describes it as a loom, a weaving loom?

Korton: ahh, yes.

Russ: okay. And that is that there is an infinite number of possibilities to any given situation.

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: and all those possibilities all come together and only one of them is the one that you perceive.

Korton: yes, perception.

Russ: right, because of the fact that you made a decision that took you onto that one.

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: and at that point, all those infinite numbers of possibilities then cease to exist because there's only the one which leads......

Korton: if you are a person that is unaware of the possibility of other universes, then that is all that exists.

Russ: right. Well here's the concept I have trouble with that maybe you can help me with and that is the fact that okay, here is an example I used. We were walking down the street and him and I took a right-hand turn and continued on up the street with our conversation. Now at that point, I told him that one universe him and I continued on down that street without ever making that turn......

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: and that we were having a conversation of a completely different nature or the same conversation, it didn't matter. The fact is that there was two universes that split off, or universe that had split off from that point.

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: now, why don't we perceive that split?

Korton: because your mind does not let you perceive it.

Russ: okay.

Korton: if you were to perceive every possibility, you would get nothing done. Your mind would be flooded to an overload point of all the sensations of all the possibilities that could occur.....

Russ: ohh.

Korton: and that have occurred.

Russ: okay.

Korton: so, your mind automatically shuts it out. If you were to think of all the possibilities that could occur, you would be sitting there still....

Russ: in the corner.

Korton: correct. But, events do not change that often to cause a split. It normally takes a major event.

Russ: oh, I see. Well that changes things. Because I thought this was every little thing that we do creates a split.

Korton: no.

Russ: ohhh, okay. So there aren't like billions going off every hour.

Korton: no.

Russ: oh, okay. I see the difference now. Now what denotes the fact that there is a split? I mean, a major occurrence sure, but I mean there's a lot of things that are different, perceptions of a person's major events in life.

Korton: it varies from as minor as an automobile accident to a child but in the future but in a future universe could become a president of a country to an assassination of the president.

Russ: uh-huh, I see. Now, do we control where that split comes in or is it merely.......

Korton: to a certain extent, yes. If you are an assassin, then you can control the possible outcome. I believe there is a movie about a gentleman that can see into the future by shaking somebody's hand.

Russ: oh yes, the Dead Zone.

Korton: yes.

Russ: right.

Korton: we suggest that that is watched.

Russ: yeah, in fact I think he mentioned that so I think he's seen that.

Korton: yes. But it is possible to change your perception of current things by intervening in such a way having the precognition of what is going to happen. Precognition is not so much as a wishy-washy science as possibilities.

Russ: uh-huh.

Korton: understanding the possibilities and the likelihoods like when we make our predictions.

Russ: right.

Korton: we talk about possibilities. That this is possible, that that is possible. We do not say that it is carved in stone. We say that it is possible.

Russ: right.

Korton: because all things are possible.

Russ: I see.

Korton: I believe Tia has a poem that she wrote that runs something along the lines of time is the beginning and end of all things.

Russ: uh-huh.

Korton: that is the start of her poem.

Russ: the Alpha and the Omega, I see. Now, is there a way in which you can look back and determine how a possible split in a parallel universe would end up?

Korton: yes.

Russ: it's by the probability factors involved.

Korton: correct.

Russ: so in other words, if let's say Poland had invaded Germany....

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: you can look back and you can pretty well judge out to today's standards with not a whole lot of degree of success but at least with some sort of logic ability that these things happened and it would be possible that we would be speaking Polish now.

Korton: no.

Russ: because Poland was an ally?

Korton: yes.

Russ: the Germans would be speaking Polish right now.

Korton: correct, or a dialect of German.

Russ: ahh.

Korton: you would have to sit down and discuss it with somebody that knows that era well.

Russ: right. And that's where it comes into the problems is if somebody can travel through time, what is going to happen? If you change these events in history...

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: you don't change the history that you perceive nowadays........

Korton: correct, because it has already happened.

Russ: it has already happened. All you do is you start a new timeline.......

Korton: correct.

Russ: from that point.

Korton: correct.

Russ: I see. So all the people would still be on it......

Korton: correct.

Russ: experiencing those things that would happen because of the new change in the timeline.

Korton: that is correct.

Russ: so time travel is not a dangerous thing as been theorized.

Korton: no.

Russ: oh, but hasn't been accomplished yet. We look forward to someday being able to do that I hope now that I know there's no danger that I'll just suddenly disappear.

Korton: paradoxes do not occur because if they occurred, your species would be extremely confused and baffled.

Russ: boy, that's for sure.

Korton: waking up one morning and discovering that your home has moved to five miles down the road and how do you get to work anyway?

Russ: absolutely.

Korton: last question please.

Russ: okay and that is that with all the worlds that Ashtar Command....

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: has to monitor, regulate, help along and such......

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: how come there's not an infinite number of people available to help with that work?

Korton: because we cannot work with other people from other possible, alternate universes.

Russ: right.

Korton: it does not function that way.

Russ: oh, I just mean for the universes that are now here in existence.

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: I mean, we're talking billions and billions of people with capabilities that far exceed those of third dimensional Earth. Couldn't you be able to work with most of the people from fifth dimensional Earth?

Korton: they're aren't that many. That is a problem that there aren't that many.

Russ: ohhhhh.

Korton: because fifth dimension is a workspace.

Russ: oh, that's right. Yeah, I see what you mean. What about sixth dimensional Earth?

Korton: again, they are not that many. There are more sixth dimensional people that are native to the fifth dimension.

Russ: right. Wouldn't they be able to transfer over........well yeah, but then it would depopulate the earth then what's the point of having Hades Base?

Korton: correct.

Russ: right. But they couldn't transfer from a few of them to work on fifth dimensional Hades Base to help out third dimensional earth.

Korton: it depends on the temperament and the necessary need. We are hard pushed, but to have more people would make our work easier but it would decrease and detract from our goals.

Russ: it would?

Korton: yes. Because, having a number of dedicated people is better than having people that do not wish to do that sort of work.

Russ: oh, I see.

Korton: you have to understand that most of the people that are here are very dedicated to help people on the lower dimension ascend.

Russ: right. See, I just assumed that people would be banging on your door trying to get in to help out people of a lower dimension. Like, you'd have to be turning applicants away by the millions, you know?

Korton: sometimes people on higher dimensions can be pretty barbaric by your standards.

Russ: I guess. I mean, being from third dimension, I just see them as being better.

Korton: yes to a certain extent and no to a certain extent.

Russ: okay, thank you.

Korton: okay, thank you very much...

Russ: you too Korton.

Korton: for an enjoyable conversation.

Russ: okay, I look forward to next time.





(Tia is on quickly as everyone gets set)


Russ: hi Tia.

Tia: he teased you there briefly, didn't he?

Russ: a little bit.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: well it's good for him.

Tia: yes. Okay, let me hand over to the next person.

Russ: okay.

Tia: because he's also short on time.

Russ: oh.




(Omal comes on finish up the side)


Omal: greetings Russ.

Russ: greetings Omal.

Omal: okay, let us proceed.

Russ: okay, sounds good. All right, we're talking about theories put forth by my brother and myself who are trying to arrange and this one is on the great pyramid.

Omal: okay.

Russ: okay? Now, in this, I'll be sending him information that will explain the fact that the great pyramid was not built as a tomb.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: only because there was no way when the first people who got in there ever found anything or even looked like a tomb.

Omal: something that might interest him. The name that was discovered in there.......

Russ: Cheops.

Omal: no, the name that was painted on the ceiling.

Russ: there was?

Omal: yes, there is a name that was painted on the ceiling referring to Ra who Khafre who was supposedly entombed in there.....

Russ: oh yeah, right.

Omal: that is an insult.

Russ: it is?

Omal: yes and the workman would not have put that on there. In actual fact, it is a spelling. It is saying something along the lines of greater than God, Khafre.

Russ: right. And that can't be because Khafre was God.

Omal: correct.

Russ: so he can't be greater than himself.

Omal: exactly, so that is a misspelling.

Russ: okay, now we know that the pyramid was used for initiations.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: is this possibly the work of some demented student who went in......well not demented, but maybe had a grudge?

Omal: you mean the graffiti?

Russ: yeah.

Omal: it was a scientist that wanted his opinion to be the right one.

Russ: and that is?

Omal: sorry, we cannot disclose his name.

Russ: no, no, no, I mean what was his opinion?

Omal: his opinion that it was built as a tomb for Khafre.

Russ: oh, you mean this is a scientist of our time.

Omal: yes.

Russ: oh, I see. It wasn't somebody back then.

Omal: no.

Russ: oh, I see. Well, they could just do a spectrograph on the paint that was used and be able to tell that this was not the same time period as the pyramid.

Omal: they probably already have.

Russ: they probably already have.

Omal: but it is accepted and it is still taught in your educational facilities that they used rollers. That this is the way that they did it, they used slopes, they used rollers.

Russ: right.

Omal: question.

Russ: hmm.

Omal: where did the wood come from?

Russ: well, from what I understand is, Egypt used to be a pretty wooded place.

Omal: but the ships used to transport the building blocks.....

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: the wood used for scaffolding. The wood used for rollers, where did all this come from? You think about how much wood would be needed for that.

Russ: we don't know how much wood there was.

Omal: you're talking......to build one boat, you're talking of approximately a hundred trees to carry some of those five ton blocks.

Russ: oh wow, that would make a difference. Okay, then Mark brought up the fact that the ramps would take more material than seven times the pyramid's size.

Omal: correct.

Russ: the pyramid itself takes up massive amounts of acreage.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: so where did that all go to? Well my theory is that.....

Omal: it got buried in the sand.

Russ: right. I got it that they would just throw it off but to break down those ramps would take them another 30 years.

Omal: and also you take basically a Stone Age civilization......
 
Russ: right.

Omal: let's say they are Bronze Age people........

Russ: okay.

Omal: which is giving them a lot of credit. Where did they get that mathematics from? Where did they get that precision from? Seven inches difference from the shortest to the longest side. Where?

Russ: right.

Omal: all sides facing north, east, South, and West perfectly aligned. Sinking only a couple of inches in approximately by your scientist's guess, five thousand years.

Russ: right, by our guess a whole lot longer than that.

Omal: and your engineers are quite happy if a building sinks a foot in a hundred years.

Russ: a foot?

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: that's a lot of sinkage.

            
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(Omal is back to finish what was started)


Russ: our scientists......

Omal: your scientists.

Russ: thank you. Cannot put forth a theory that would conflict with known abilities of people back then.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: because of the fact that they would then have to refute other scientists.

Omal: correct.

Russ: and there's some unwritten law that says you can't refute other scientists.

Omal: well, the opinion that it was built by a spacefaring race is a little bit off.

Russ: right.

Omal: it was built by humans.........

Russ: right.

Omal: what you are descended from, that were descended from spacefarers.

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: so to say that it was built by spacefarers is inaccurate when in actual fact that they were now at that point indigenous to your planet.

Russ: right, they were as local as we are.

Omal: correct. And very little difference apart from skin pigmentation and maybe a few minor functions like the appendix actually having a more prominent function.

Russ: what would be a more common function of the appendix?

Omal: in some animals it is......

Russ: I thought it was useless.

Omal: it is used for aiding the digestion.

Russ: oh really?

Omal: in rabbits for example, it helps to break down and produces certain chemicals used in the destruction of roots and grasses.

Russ: oh, I see. So it wasn't atrophied way back when.

Omal: no.

Russ: it was not.

Omal: correct.

Russ: okay. So basically, the only difference also would be in the abilities.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: common to each of them.

Omal: yes.

Russ: and also I would assume the amount of brain that they used.

Omal: correct. Instead of 11 to 13%, it would be something like 20 to 25%.

Russ: that little?

Omal: that little, by that point.

Russ: oh, I see, it had been degenerating ever since.

Omal: correct.

Russ: oh, I see. And so what we're trying to do is reverse the process.

Omal: correct.

Russ: well that would mean that we must have reached a low point in our brain usage then.

Omal: shortly thereafter.

(Russ laughs)

Russ: that's a scary thought.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and we went down probably lower than what the 10 or 13% we use now, probably down to like 7%, right?

Omal: correct.

Russ: good grief. What do you mean shortly thereafter? At that point we were still pretty...........it can't have gone from 25% down to 7%.

Omal: don't forget, there was a lot of conflict at that time.

Russ: yeah? But you would think that........oh, that's right, if all the scholars were like beheaded, put up against the wall let's say.......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: our you would have left is petty kings and slaves.

Omal: yes, fighting amongst themselves.

Russ: that would be known as the real dark ages at that point.

Omal: yes.

(Russ whistles)

Russ: okay, so even though we're at 11 or 13%, that's still pretty good comparatively speaking.

Omal: correct.

Russ: so 25% would be going really great guns......

Omal: correct.

Russ: because that's more than twice.....

Omal: you would have the knowledge on how to access certain parts of your brain to channel energy.

Russ: so in other words, we'd of increased the usage of our brain that would enable us to increase it and use more of our brain.

Omal: correct.

Russ: that's one of the keys because we'd double the amount of brainpower we use.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: wouldn't that hurt?

Omal: yes.

Russ: that's why the pain threshold is so necessary to improving ability...

Omal: correct.

Russ: skills.

Omal: correct.

Russ: because......

Omal: it gives you something to measure by.

Russ: right. I see. Okay, so......

Omal: this is a warning when you reach a danger point.

Russ: right. So that's the cutoff point.

Omal: correct.

Russ: and if there was no cutoff point we'd go insane.

Omal: exactly.

Russ: wait, how does that describe our geniuses then that use lots more parts of the brain? Do they have to go through a tough childhood or something?

Omal: most likely, yes.

Russ: oh, I see.

Omal: there are some people that are very clever at masking their pains and inner emotions. Ask Mr. Vulcan on emotions.

(He means Mark)

Russ: okay, what about then, real quick, Einstein.

Omal: uh-huh. A quick side question.

Russ: okay.

Omal: what is his problem at the moment?

Russ: what, the big L word there?

Omal: presumably that is what it is.

Russ: I call it the big I word.

Omal: I word?

Russ: infatuation.

(Russ laughs again)

Omal: quite possibly.

Russ: we haven't got to the L word yet but we're working on it. Okay Einstein, though he was a genius and came up with the theory of relativity and all this other stuff, he was actually very absent-minded, would forget.....

Omal: to tie his shoelaces.

Russ: to tie his shoelaces or to button his shirt.

Omal: you have to make some sacrifices for intelligence.

Russ: yeah, but I mean, it was like one part of his brain got bigger than the other part.

Omal: hmmm.

Russ: like the right side got bigger than the left side kind of thing.

Omal: yes, you could say but what happens is you're thinking on the relativity theory, how does it work? "Hmm, let me see". You're lying in bed and go "hmmm, need a cup of coffee". Go downstairs, you make your cup of coffee, you drink your coffee and you're still thinking of relativity and your girlfriend, wife, whatever walks in and goes, "excuse me dear, you're flying low" or "you forgot to put your trousers on this morning".

Russ; oh. I see.

Your mind is preoccupied.

Russ: oh, so he lived with a constantly productive type of mind.

Omal: exactly.

Russ: okay.

Omal: take Luna for example.

Russ: yes.

Omal: when she is busy working on her computer does she not forget to put things on from time to time?

Russ: from all the time. How many times have I caught her sans clothes more often than once working on her computer.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: she doesn't really care because she so occupied.

Omal: exactly.

The right. But now, someone like Tesla......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: whoever in his biography would go into a restaurant and he would order thirteen clean, folded napkins brought to his table.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: at that point he would sit there and he would clean off every little piece of silverware, plates, everything on his table setting and leave the napkins sitting in a big pile.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and yet he was a genius.

Omal: some people are a little bit eccentric.

Russ: but what causes an eccentricity in that? It's always said geniuses are eccentric.

Omal: the border between madness and genius is very narrow.

Russ: oh, I see. So flirting with disaster.

Omal: correct.

Russ: okay, I see. Are you a time.....

Omal: yes.

Russ: that's what I thought. Okay.

Omal: yes, I know we are blowing through these questions like there is no tomorrow and in one universe that is quite possible.

Russ: don't do that to me.

(Russ laughs at that)

Russ: that always confuses me.

Omal: why not? It is nice to see you confused.

Russ: indeed, it makes my brain hurt. Okay.....

Omal: sitting there so confident and self-assured.

Russ: yeah, well that's all she wrote after something like that happens. All right, last question then. See if I can think of one real quick here. Okay, now, you're function as head of Hades Base....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: is as an administrator.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: okay. Now, would you call yourself a microcosm of Hades Base? In other words, the function of Hades Base is to help earth consciously and as a protector of it, okay?

Omal: hmmm, you're treading on very dangerous ground there. Not security wise, but wording.

Russ: okay. Well, what I'm thinking of is that you are in charge of helping the people on the base and keeping them emotionally secure.

Omal: yes, to a certain extent. I actually have other people to help me with that. I am the person that makes the decisions. I go before the Council and argue my case and they argue their's and we come to a compromise when necessary and we proceed from there. Or, I make a decision there and then.

Russ: okay.

Omal: you see, to be in charge of a community like this, one has to be many different things. I have to be peacemaker, I have to be able to take advice, listen to advice, give advice, make an instant snap decision, stick by it and yet keep everybody happy.

Russ: uh-huh, right. And you have someone you have to answer to also.

Omal: yes.

Russ: okay.

Omal: you could say I am a clown running this base.

Russ: I don't know if I would exactly put it in those words.

Omal: I'm juggling....

Russ: oh.

Omal: I have to make people happy, I juggle many things all at the same time.

Russ: good point.

Omal: no, a clown would not be the correct word to use.

Russ: no, a jester? Or a.....

Omal: juggler.

Russ: a juggler.

Omal: the magician.

Russ: ahh.

Omal: yes.

Russ: yes, the magician, the balance.

Omal: yes.

Russ: establishing a balance. Good, I see. And so, how do you find your balance?

Omal: I look within myself when necessary.

Russ: thank you.

Omal: you're welcome.

Russ: I'll look within myself and find my balance here.

Omal: Omal to Enterprise, one to beam up.

(Russ chuckles)

Russ: goodbye Omal.

Omal: "dammit Jim, I'm a doctor, not an anthropologist". Farewell Russ.

Russ: farewell Omal.

Omal: farewell to your Vulcan emotional like person.

Russ: okay, I'll pass that along.





(Tia returns to get us to Karra)


Russ: hi Tia.

(Tia says hi in Durondedunn)

Russ: all right, that was exciting.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, yes?

Tia: I don't think Kiri is going to be here.

Russ: no? Well that's all for the better though since I just have to put the pause button on every once in a while.

Tia: uh-huh. Okay.

Russ: all right, this is my lady?

Tia: no, it's Tia.

Russ: not yet. I mean my lady coming up.

Tia: oh, I didn't know if I should let her after that comment.

Russ: oh, excuse me darling. Anticipation makes me all the more anxious. Besides, you'll get your turn afterwards.

Tia: yeah, I have to wait.

Russ: oh well, you get to fill out the rest of this.

Tia: I'll let her in.

Russ thank you.

Tia: stop battering me with that negative energy.

Russ: what negative energy? It's anticipation.

(After a very long interval)

Russ: hello darling.

Tia: got you sucker.

(Russ starts laughing at the joke)

Russ: go away.





(Karra is actually here this time)


Karra: greetings Beanpole.

Russ: now I have a reason to go solid, to spank Tia.

Karra: I was about to say, do you want to pause that whilst you blow off steam at Tia?

Russ: no, no, no. I'd rather have it on tape. Well how are you my darling?

Karra: I'm fine.

Russ: oh, that's good to hear, good to hear.

Karra: okay.

Russ: okay. First off, let's work with a little bit on Carrie.

Karra: uh-huh. Green tea......

Russ: green tea.

Karra: rosemary, warm water, clean towel, salt warm water, edible refreshments if you wish? Lighting, blue and green. Maybe music if she wants music. Hmmm, yeah, I think that's it.

Russ: okay, good. So that'll be.....what did we set that up for?

Karra: not next week....

Russ: yeah, not next week, the Tuesday afterwards.

Karra: correct.

Russ: okay, good. Let's see, next Tuesday would make it the 10th, that would be the 17th, that'd be the 24th. Full moon's not until the 25th.

Karra: correct.

Russ: how do I do the elixirs? Put them in the pyramid instead of the full moon?

Karra: yes, I suppose so.

Russ: okay, I'll just do a batch of elixirs just for this one.

Karra: okay.

Russ: and then wait for the full moon and do a full batch for the whole set up.

Karra: uh-huh, okay.

Russ: okay, good. Now, where do you want the elixirs? In the green tea?

Karra: yes.

Russ: okay.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: all right, and what are we going to attempt here, to get rid of it completely then?

Karra: yeah.

Russ: okay.

Karra: totally. Knock it out the window, get rid of it so she's no longer in remission but fighting fit.

Russ: right.

Karra: a fighting Carrie. Yes, the fighting Irish.

Russ: okay.

Karra: she's got Irish blood in her, right?

Russ: yes.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, now, two questions I want to put to you here.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: one of them's in a gray area so we're gonna see how this works. One of them isn't so we'll get the gray area one out of the way first.

Karra: okay.

Russ: all right, now we were discussing the forms of healing rays.....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: that are used on us from time to time.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: now, in prior years, the earth had a stronger magnetic field......

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: which allowed people to heal in a faster rate.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: over the centuries that magnetic field has deteriorated to its current level.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: would one of those rays happen to be a stronger magnetic field?

Karra: no, can't tell you.

Russ: oh. That would be the gray area or even black area.

Karra: right over beyond the black area into the black hole area.

Russ: oh good. Can I theorize about it?

Karra: if you wish, but I can't make a comment.

Russ: fair enough. It's just that our healing abilities seem a lot more amplified so that's why I bring the question up is that if this was higher magnetic energies throughout around this house. That would explain some of the healing that takes place here so didn't know if you could answer that not.

Karra: you can theorize until what's it freezes over.

Russ: all right, now, the next question is about someone else here in town who is currently working with magnets, pyramids and crystals.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: into conjunction into one solid.....

Karra: Tahoe Regional Planning and Development Agency for psychic powers.

Russ: Tahoe human potential center. You were close though.

Karra: yes.

Russ: now they have not been able to establish a serious testing of this. Now, is there a way that we can look into this more and determine its viability?

Karra: yes, yes. I have a plan and it's so cunning you can brush your......well, nevermind what you can brush with it......but what we will do is we will go along but before we go along, Kiri and myself will get into a channeling mode, we'll work together, we'll get Mark in on it, and we come in tomorrow, right? And we go along and Mark.....or rather Kiri and myself......don't say a word, we just move him around all over the place.

Russ: uh-huh, okay. And what purpose would this come to?

Karra: to reconnoiter, to look at it.

Russ: oh, I see. To establish what field is there?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: and since you're in a channeling mode, you'll have to be in the channeling room.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: which means you'll have monitors.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: which means the monitors can monitor the fields around that......

Karra: correct.

Russ: to determine its viability....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: and determine if that's what they are doing. Okay.
.
Karra: so poor Mark will have no recollection for couple of hours of what's going on.

Russ: not for long.

Karra: uh-huh. But we've got to be very silent and quiet. Otherwise the game's up.

Russ: yes, obviously. Now the one thing is that after we do this we can apply some of those same principles to this pyramid here.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: if we find that there is a function that they are established and are working..

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: okay. So, I'll try to set that up.

Karra: and any questions that I have will come through you. I'll put them in there for your use.

Russ: okay, good. We'll do real well then.

Karra: thank you.

Russ: and we'll set this up for this weekend if possible.

Karra: we can try.

Russ: all right, how was your drive?

Karra: hmm, a little bit strange.

Russ: why?

Karra: it was hard to work with my foot really quick.

Russ: well, you did quite well.

Karra: uh-huh. You've got lots of things to do all at the same time.

Russ: well you have to watch the gas gauge, you have to watch the speedometer...

Karra: uh-huh. You have to watch the windows and the mirrors and keep an eye on that you're lined up properly and move the feet when necessary.

Russ: maintain a constant pressure that keeps you at the speed you're going.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: but how did we agree on that in the first place?

Karra: not too sure as usual.

(Russ bursts out laughing)

Russ: it's all a sudden I'm driving, not even thinking about it, and all of a sudden you're driving and I'm like going, "okay........that's interesting".

Karra: hmm, there is one slight problem there.

Russ: yeah?

Karra: Kiri wants to drive.

Russ: well, Mark should have been letting her drive already at this point though.

Karra: he's a control freak, isn't he?

Russ: yeah, I'm not. You can drive all you like.....

Karra: oh thank you.

Russ: if you want to.

Karra: doesn't interest me that much actually.

Russ: okay. So, we've got some good plans coming up here.......

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: and I'll go ahead and set this up with Carrie.

Karra: okay, looking forward to it.

Russ: I am too.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: now, she has a lot of problems with spiders, what can we do about that?

Karra: what you do is, is you put her in a room and fill it up with spiders.

Russ: oh geez.

Karra: yeah, something that she's got to overcome by herself but it might be useful for her to talk to Mark about spiders.

Russ: Mark has a fear too, doesn't he?

Karra: yeah, I believe so.

Russ: yeah, that's right. Okay. Anyway, we're working on the Renaissance fair.....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: and we're going to be going to that.

Karra: I wish I could get to come.

Russ: yeah, I know. Okay, I've got something for you sweetheart.

Karra: okay.

Russ: reach your hand out please.

(Russ gives her a crystal to examine)

Karra: it's broken at this end.

Russ: well, it's got.....you can't open your eyes, that's right. If you could, you'd see there's a little green in there.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: which I assume is chloride.

Karra: probably.

Russ: well, the chloride forms like a triangle in there.

Karra: of course, that's what's running away.

Russ: sulfuric?

Karra: it's trying to but it can't.

Russ: why not?

Karra: because it's too much broken. There's about that much missing from it.

Russ: how much missing?

Karra: about there.

Russ: wow, that's a lot.

Karra: so that means that it's hemorrhaging energy. I gave this a life expectancy of probably about a thousand years.

Russ: and then what?

Karra: it'll be a dead crystal.

Russ: this is bad.

Karra: and then run out of energy. Well, it becomes a very inactive crystal that is not much use to man nor beast.

Russ: oh. Well it's got a phantom in it.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: which means the crystal stopped growing and another started on top of it.

Karra: hmm.

Russ: so what purpose would that crystal ever have?

Karra: it's part of a group of healing crystals. That's the only way it would stay functional is with a group.

Russ: oh, because I thought the green would be an interesting form of healing that would add a certain amount of frequency.

Karra: uh-huh. Yeah, I wish I could open.....I wish Kiri was around to help me with that.

Russ: can't you do the same thing with Tia?

Karra: different frequencies, different genetic background. Her mind works in different ways, you might've noticed that.

Russ: well you're both kind of mischievous at some times.

Karra: and so are you.

Russ: yeah. I'll wait till Kiri comes sometime and we'll take a look and see what we can find.

Karra: uh-huh, okay.

Russ: all right darling, a long night ahead of us.

Karra: looking forward to it.

Russ: I am too. Okay sweetheart, I'll see you up there in a while.






(Tia finishes out the channeling session)


Russ: hi Tia.

Tia: what was all that whispering about?

Russ: oh, it's a personal thing.

Tia: ohhhh.

Russ: like you and Mark do.

(Tia says something in Durondedunn)

Russ: anyway, so what are your plans tonight?

Tia: I'm going to kick back, just have fun.

Russ: sounds like fun.

Tia: uh-huh. Might go down to the corner bar....yeah, but I've got to go have a change first.

Russ: into what?

Tia: I came from the swimming pool so I borrowed Karra's T-shirt......not T-shirt, sweatshirt.

Russ: oh.

Tia: oh well.

Russ: oh well. Anyway, I'll be up there for most the night tonight. I might look for you at the corner bar.

Tia: uh-huh. Well if I'm not there, you know where I'll be.

Russ: yeah, okay. But I'll be at work tonight so I'll work on astral projection in a major way.

Tia: yes, I heard about that.

Russ: you betcha. Well, you know me, I got kids growing up.

Tia: yeah. I've got a quick joke for you.

Russ: wait, I've got one first. What did Wilbur say to Orville after Orville crashed the first airplane?

Tia: I don't know.

Russ: let's sell the bike shop.

Tia: okay, you know the day I sent Mark down to pick up a disc? I sent him down to get "A Scent of a Woman". You know he came back with?

Russ: what?

Tia: "A Fish Called Wanda".

(Russ claps)

Russ: that's a good one, that's a good one. I like that one.

Tia: Mark actually told me that one.

Russ: I think that'll get past the censors here. All right, so..............oh yes, Renaissance fair coming up.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: you'll help Mark with his costume?

Tia: probably.

Russ: good. Oh yeah, is there a way we'll be able to do something like the Renaissance fair up there only in the hologram machine?

Tia: no, computer space is limited. Got to book it a week in advance at least and it's got to be work.

Russ: no, this is frivolous.

Tia: uh-huh. We did it for Luna it was semi-frivolous but we decided to cheer her up. It also helped her with her research.

Russ: hmm. You guys miss her yet?

Tia: yeah, but she comes over every morning and then every evening.

Russ: oh God, look behind you, on the wall.

Tia: where?

Russ: see where the unicorn hanging is? Look about three quarters of the way down on the left-hand corner next to the black on the wall.

Tia: oh yeah, a big spider.

Russ: a big spider.

Tia: uh-huh. Should we bottle it and run?

(Russ laughs)

Russ: you're sick.

Tia: no, I'm not sick.

Russ: actually I could, couldn't I? I got the jar for Carrie.

Tia: no.

Russ: why not?

Tia: you're going to bottle it and make her get scared?

Russ: to Carrie? Oh come on, Carrie's like a sister to me.

Tia: yes, that's what you would do it buddy boy.

Russ: no, I wouldn't do that to a sister.

Tia: yes you would.

Russ: no I wouldn't. Oh, maybe I would.

Tia: you going to let him go outside?

Russ: yeah.

Tia: good boy. You got him?

Russ: go........oh oh.

Tia: what?

Russ: he jumped. He should be over here by you.

Tia: that could be bad for Mark, you'll scare the living daylights out of him.

Russ: I won't tell him but he was huge. Big jumping spider.

Tia: where it is?

Russ: you know, but if you're allergic to a spider bite.

Tia: oh, that's real nice.

Russ: God, that was huge.

Tia: about how big is huge?

Russ: big as your thumb.

Tia: oh, that's a little one.

Russ: good thing I like spiders.

Tia: wait till you see a spider that is about that big.

Russ: we don't have them here, no tarantulas. Now that is big. Jumping little bugger too. It's probably behind Mark.

Tia: oh dear.

Russ: oh well.

Tia: I've got to protect my Mark. Don't want to turn him into a nervous wreck.

Russ: by the time he comes back he won't even know.

Tia: well, what about if you get that fly spray thing?

Russ: I mean he's not going to know till he listens to this tape.

Tia: yeah, true.

Russ: right?

Tia: and the tape is about to run out.

Russ: yeah?

Tia: that's side two.

Russ: right. So he listens to the tape, he'll go, "my God, there's a spider there". Yeah, he'll never know. I'm not going to say anything if you don't.

Tia: nah, I won't.

Russ: well then, don't worry about it.

Tia: okay.

Russ: if it bites him, he'll find out that way.

(Russ laughs again)

Russ: once he has the tape.

Tia: and he'll know who to get.

Russ: well yeah, both of us.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: well, I don't see it yet. I wouldn't worry about it.

Tia: well, we better spray in here for Carrie's comfort.

Russ: no, I don't want to spray the room.

Tia: why not?

Russ: because you leave a bunch of poisonous residue all over the place. We've got to live in here.

Tia: yeah, true. What about a non-poisonous type that kills them anyway?

Russ: they don't make it.

Tia: hmm.

Russ: they're all poisonous, that's why they call them poisonous.

Tia: oh.

Russ: insecticide.

Tia: hmm.

Russ: we'll just have to rough it, hope for cold weather.

Tia: hmm, that gives me an idea. I could drop the temperature and get him to drop......nah, couldn't do that, waste of energy.

Russ: oh well, what's a little spider between friends?

Tia: yeah.

Russ: yeah.

Tia: I know what I'm going to do.

Russ: what?

Tia: can't say it.

Russ: okay, fair enough. Good luck.

Tia: is it going to finish or do I have to sit here and waste time?

Russ: it's ending, it's ending. It's kind of going through the last little section....

Tia: okay, end of side two.

Russ: well, I am not seeing it go through right yet.

Tia: oh.

Russ: it's like getting there.

(Tia starts purring)

Russ: there it goes, now it's the end of side two.

Tia: end of side two.

Russ: well, maybe not yet, but damn close though.

Tia: Incey Wincy  spider went climbing up the spout. Down came the rain and washed poor Incey out.

(Tia says something to the cat in Durondedunn before purring again)

Russ: "I'll be back". Hey, Omal didn't get to say, I'll be back.

Tia: can't do it, got to move his tongue to do that. Oh well, okay.

Russ: all right my dear, have a lovely night.

Tia: uh-huh, I've things planned.

Russ: you going to go out like that?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: you know Mark hates that.

Tia: tough.


 

THE TAPE ENDS


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