Archivist Notes: We enter March with a fascinating channeling session with pretty good sound quality compared to last month. Following along via the transcript is encouraged as some parts aren't as clear. A few of things of note before getting started. The first is that Tia starts things off in what could be called a frisky mood which included interacting with the cats hanging around Mark's body on the futon. Also, Karra was still a healer at this point and Alana, her daughter, was a bit shy and speaks very softly. Lastly, this recording took place exactly one week after last month's channeling session. So, our new mother Tia was just wrapping up feeding one of her children as things get started. As it is with most sessions, we begin by going over my recent farsighting practice and the different techniques I had been trying out to improve my range and duration of the trips. That brings us to the part of the title of this channeling session which is a world of illusions. This section is a comparison between the control systems of this dimension and their dimension. In this dimension, the control system revolves around money while on their dimension, the control systems revolve around the advancement of the self and the system. We stay on that subject as we discuss life on their dimension and the rules in place there which we would return to near the end of the session. But for now, Tia had a wild hair and Kiri had to step in to let Karra speak with her for a bit. More restrained, Tia returns and we continue. What we do learn before she leaves is how she lives in a world full of telepaths. She is able to tune into the mental babble as she calls it or tune it out. Karra quickly takes her place to remind me to get a crystal scalpel before making way for Omal to finish up the side. A topic we would return to with Karra later was how certain pain can bring on advancement in various psychic skills. In this case, the mental pain of heavy thinking on serious matters. As he says, that is when you're really using your brain. That had been what I have been going through learning new technologies on the base and his explanation made sense. We go into the subject of manifestation and my recent attempts at creating a penny from scratch. It was similar to what he was teaching Mark and Kiri's son Alex where Alex would create something but he would turn away and get upset when it disappeared due to a lack of his attention and energy. One thing we end with that might be confusing is about Mark and Tia's triplets and how boisterous they were in her womb. It got so bad I and others would try to calm them by speaking to them telepathically to give her some peace. It worked but then she stressed when she didn't feel them moving as much as before. It was a tough pregnancy that had to be completed in two different wombs in the end. We move on from there to new subjects on the second side.

We get into stellar physics and a question about a trip I made in my astral body out to Pluto and looked back. That then brings up the topic of why our solar system is elliptical and how gravity keeps everything in place. He suggests some experiments to demonstrate how planets move at different speeds and don't collide. My brain was starting to hurt so we ended with his pumping a crystal full of energy and then giving it to me to refresh my energy from it. What happens next is surprising as Karra and Kiri team up so that they can guide me in working on Mark's knee. We were using energy transfers to help speed up the healing on a recent surgery he had been through. Working with the crystal scalpel, we align some energy and clear up some blockages. All done, Karra and I discuss the genetics of the twin children still in her womb and what we could expect as far as their abilities. What we learn is that she will avoid any pain blockage options so that she can bond more with the children when they were to be born. That brings up the pain she would go through and the increase in her abilities that would come as a result. She needs to end quickly so we find out what fruits and other items help as brain food prior to her leaving. Kiri returns by herself this time and surprise, we discuss sex. In this case, the rules they have to live by regarding it that are less the more educated you are. With that, we learn about her take on how far she goes on the matter. We end so that her niece can channel as we are squeezed for time. Alana and I go over how we would be sharing time together since Karra needed some rest from the pregnancy. We finalize the plans and then let Tia wrap things up with some program notes from the channeling session. She then launches into a quick music trivia part of the session that came as another surprise. We get through her renditions and discuss her attempts at keeping one of Mark's eyes open while she channeled. Kiri had gotten the other one open and Tia was trying to catch up. Just before the tape runs out, we talk about something her daughter was doing which was turning into a kitten using manifestation. Her research had discovered it was a rare trait whose originals she had failed to determine. When I saw it I thought it was pretty cute. So that was the channeling session with some very excellent subjects covered. The sound quality makes it a good one for the archives.

   
In love, light, and wisdom as one,
Russ and Karra                                     

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SIDE ONE



(Tia is our first speaker of the night)



Tia: sorry for the delay.

Russ: no problem, what's up?

Tia: just had to finish feeding.

Russ: I understand.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: an unfed child can be more of a nuisance than anything. Cat was tearing up paper.

(Tia giggles)

Tia: okay.

Russ: how's it going Tia?

Tia: it's going fine.

Russ: motherhood treating you well?

Tia: of course.

Russ: well, that's good.

Tia: give him a piece of paper to play with or a piece of string.

Russ: I've get shreds of paper all over the place.

Tia: oh well, not to worry.

Russ: what else? How's everything going on up there?

Tia: oh, fine, fine, fine, fine, fine.

Russ: oh, that's good.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: you been hearing all about everything going on down here I take it?

Tia: such as?

Russ: oh, farsighting.......

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: fun things like that.

Tia: yeah. The fact that you're pinching yourself here as it were and blocking everything out?

Russ: uh-huh. Now the trick is moving a bit higher.

Tia: yeah.

Russ: and so what I'm working on now, thanks to Karra, is working on blocking off the chakra on top of the head.

Tia: yeah, the crown chakra.

Russ: right, a little bit higher. It's like a five inch space above the head.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: now, that's still the crown chakra?

Tia: yeah, it's part of it I think..

Russ: hmm, all right. But now why is it that that controls the entire body though? That section?

Tia: because it's to do with your mental actions. It's like the brain. The brain controls everything, right?

Russ: right.

Tia: well?

Russ: well?

Tia: well?

Russ: but this controls all nerve functions.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: so the seventh chakra concerns nerves?

Tia: uh-huh, amongst other things.

Russ: okay. Now, what about psychic discharges and stuff?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: controls that too?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: okay. So the trick is to get that shut off...

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: after you get out of the body.

Tia: it's up to the individual.

Russ: okay, now, continuing on the same line we were just talking about, shutting down the astral chakra.......

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: now the body goes into an automatic mode.

Tia: yeah.

Russ: but now, would it be helpful do you think to turn on the astral form in reverse?

Tia: hmm, it's up to you. Try an experimentation.

Russ: okay. Sort of like you turn off the chakra on the physical body....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: but turn on the chakra on the astral body.

Tia: yeah.

Russ: now what happens if you turn off the chakra on the astral body?

Tia: you switch off your astral body, it's a shutdown.....click.

Russ: right. It's just weird to see how these different centers affect the body.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: in radical ways that are a little bit unusual.

Tia: yeah.

Russ: anyway, this evening's session.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: wait while I give this one another title.......

Tia: okay.

Russ: this will be illusions.

Tia: pray tell why illusions?

Russ: oh, due to the fact that we live in such a world of illusions.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: where things are made to seem one way but they're actually another way.

Tia: and what are you implying?

Russ: well, I'm implying that basically, third dimension.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: is made up of a very subtle network of controls.

Tia: yeah.

Russ: and those controls....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: have been in place for thousands and thousands of years.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: but the controls are set up for the either making of money, the control of other people or the control of entire countries.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: whereas on fifth dimension, the controls are the complete opposite. In other words, the controls there are set up for advancement of various species and people.

Tia: uh-huh. I think I upset her.

Russ: and for setting up a various kind of ability to magnify different abilities.

Tia: yeah, basically. Everything has a purpose that is, for want of a better word, three-dimensional.......control.

Russ: right.

Tia: you people, or your species, likes to be in control of everything.

Russ: right. But so it's the same up there on fifth dimension........or sixth dimension.

Tia: sixth dimension. I don't know, I haven't been there but fifth dimension, a certain amount of control but we're pretty much free to do as we want to do. I mean if I wanted to, I could run around here naked.

Russ: right?

Tia: but I don't want to.

Russ: yeah.

Tia: there's nobody going to say, "you can't do that young lady".

(Russ chuckles)

Russ: but now, if actions are done up there which are unproductive.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: towards others or harmful in any way......?

Tia: well that is frowned upon, yes.

Russ: yeah, but the control is in place by the person doing the actions.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: but what I can't understand is, is how it is that they make the willing, conscious effort to control that?

Tia: it's because you take into consideration all of those around you. It's like, I didn't realize I upset Gary briefly. Where did she go? Hello, what's that?

Russ: it's a model plane.

Tia: oh, we'll have to get........hold on, let's refocus that side and see it on the hologram please....there.........whoa, different colors. What type is it?

Russ: it's a spitfire.

Tia: oh.

Russ: oh, it's blue underneath, why?

Russ: well that's for camouflage. So that if you're looking at it from on the ground, it looks like a patch of blue sky up above.

Tia: ahh, but what about the noise?

Russ: well, it's a little disguise.

Tia: oh. Now, control. I wouldn't do anything to hurt anybody here. Not intentionally but accidents do happen.

Russ: right.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: now the reason that you wouldn't do anything to hurt anybody.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: is because of your evolution. You're evolved.

Tia: correct. You see once you reach here, or the sixth dimension and come to work in the fifth, you're evolved enough to realize that everything has an equal and opposite. You hurt somebody, you hurt yourself.

Russ: correct.

Tia: for example, if I were to get my claws out and go.....

(Tia hisses like a cat)

Tia: like that, I hurt him but I also hurt my claws.

Russ: well, sort of.

Tia: yeah. I thump somebody, it hurts my hand and it hurts me emotionally. I spank one of my daughters, which I don't have to yet fortunately, it hurts their pride but it hurts me because I have to hurt them. But, that is necessary for them to learn.

Russ: yeah, but you're looking at instant realization of this.

Tia: yes, but there is other things further down the line.

Russ: right.

Tia: for example, if you say to somebody, "I'm going to be there at 7 o'clock", right? And you're late, then they say they're going to be over at your place at 8 o'clock and they're late, and see, it starts a snowballing effect that you're not punctual. And by being not punctual, it leads to other things in your life.

Russ: uh-huh, right.

Tia: and it kind of snowballs.

Russ: right. What about things that you do that don't happen again for years on down the line? You tend to forget the fact that they're going to be coming back to you.

Tia: you shouldn't, you shouldn't.

Russ: how are you reminded of this though?

Tia: by having a good memory.

Russ: and did you have a lack of memory sometimes?

Tia: things slip people's minds and you have to learn the lesson again.

Russ: right. Now is there counselors that would tell you about your little lessons that you might have to relive again.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: ahh, well that's good. So that would keep the mental equivalent to self-learning a life.......

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: even though you have to go through somebody else sometimes.

Tia: what are you saying, that I'm about to get clawed?

Russ: well, only if you were to forget your rules you just mentioned.

Tia: uh-huh. This is fun, this is play. Some people don't need anybody to play with, you know?

 (Tia gets a bout of giggles)

Tia: okay.

Russ: okay, all right.

Tia: next question.

Russ: now, how to circumvent the controls we have in place down here?

Tia: the controls that you have down there are there for a purpose.

Russ: what about the illusionary controls set and designed to make people money?

Tia: you have to play by the rules around you. That is the first part of learning is to play by the rules around you and then to learn how to go around, behind, over, under, to the side of the rules.

Russ: so you've got to recognize the rules that are in place in the first place.

Tia: exactly. And then you've got to sit down and reason out a way to go around them.

Russ: okay, I'll think about that. In the meantime.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: so Mark's got me working on doing jumps of varying lengths.

Tia: uh-huh, I know, we discussed it last night.

Russ: yes. And he mentioned the fact that you might join me in these?

Tia: I'd like to but I have certain things that I need to do like changing dirty nappies, washing, bathing, feeding. My research, spending time with my partner, my mischievous partner, my silly partner.

Russ: so it didn't work when you searched for it the first time?

Tia: searched for what?

Russ: whatever you're trying to research.

Tia: stuff that I need for here, it's needed. You want me to start attacking you, huh?

(Tia hisses like a cat)

Russ: you're so funny Tia.

---

(Kiri jumps in to cover for Tia)


Russ: all right, now, after doing my first long jump this morning and coming back and going back up to Hades Base again, I was like really weary and bone weary and totally blown. You got anything called astral aspirin?

Kiri: yo dude.

Russ: yo.

Kiri: having had to restrain her, she was getting a little bit wild.

Russ: oh, it was just getting fun.

Kiri: well, she was getting wild. You ought to have seen her hair, huh? Out here, like this.

Russ: she is good at playing with the cats. She's just in that playful cat sense.

Kiri: yeah. Well she is still very much a cat sometimes.

Russ: true.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: hi Kiri.

Kiri: hello dude.

Russ: hi dudette.

Kiri: well, I just had to step in whilst Karra gave her a quick talking to so going to hand back to somebody. I'm not quite sure who. And her hair is still out here, frizzed up. So I'm acting as assistant ring mistress.

---

(Tia is back but more restrained this time)



(Tia comes back growling)

Russ: hi Tia.

Tia: yeah?

Russ: you're okay now?

Tia: never. Just been told to calm down because I had everything running on high.

Russ: oh.

Tia: yeah, the oscilloscope up here for monitoring the heart was going pump pump pump and we have another one for measuring brain output and it was going whosh.

Russ: I'll mellow out on the jokes then.

Tia: oh no, it's me that needs to mellow out and guess what? I'm not going, not going to do it, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no!!!!!

Russ: well good.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: now, all about astral aspirin.

Tia: yeah, I remember that vaguely. Just self-heal yourself. Where's the other feline gone? There he is.

Russ: was not self-healing, it's more like getting my energy back. I had spent all of it...

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: and there was nowhere to get more.

Tia: okay, next question.

Russ: is there such a thing up there as unity? As in community.

Tia: you mean everybody being able to tell everybody else's state, being able to share in the fun and the excitement, when you're feeling down that you're never truly alone?

Russ: yeah, that's the one.

Tia: kind of, kind of. We can shut everybody out.....

Russ: oh.

Tia: or, we can listen to the mental babble. We can share on the emotions and the energy.

Russ: so is that sort of like being part of a collective unconscious?

Tia: yes and no.

Russ: or is it a collective conscious?

Tia: collective conscious.

Russ: not the unconscious.

Tia: no, because we can shield out our secret desires, what we want.

Russ: so it's the collective consciousness.

Tia: yeah.

Russ: so if somebody were to say..........want something passed around to everybody at once, they just put it in a grapevine kind of thing?

Tia: yeah. They just tell somebody and somebody else might overhear it if it's on the declamatory mode......
 
Russ: right.

Tia: and it will spread like a virus, like a joke.

Russ: so let's say if Ashtar needed some work done right away on a grand scale kind of thing he could just put the word out?

Tia: uh-huh, yeah.

Russ: I get it. So now, a lot of things depend on your ability to comprehend what's coming through too.

Tia: yeah, uh-huh.

Russ: great. After enough years of practice you should be able to have it down, right?

Tia: well I'm still learning.

Russ: oh.

Tia: uh-huh, I'm a rookie.

Russ: well, you make up for lost time.

Tia: trying to, trying to.

Russ: okay, well that's all I have for just for the moment anyway.

Tia: oh, party pooper.

Russ: that's all right. I'll let you calm down for a while and I'll catch you on the rebound.

Tia: okay, I'm going to run outside. They'll tell me when it's nearly over.

Russ: okay.

Tia: I can't help it when I get a static charge running through me. Got all wild and hyped up.

Russ: I thought it was kind of fun.

Tia: I'll stop pussyfooting around. I'll go outside and talk to Mark.

Russ: all right, see you in a little while.

---

(Karra drops in real quick before handing over to Omal)



Karra: greetings beanpole.

Russ: hi Karra.

Karra: okay, I'm only going to be in briefly because I'll come back on later on but I need, because she forgot, I need the surgical crystal.

Russ: oh..........scalpel.

Karra: and when you pass it to me you're meant to go....

(Karra slaps it in her palm)

Russ: oh, okay. Like that.

Karra: yeah. She was wild though, wasn't she? Had to talk to her.

Russ: right. Wonderful talking to you.

Karra: okay, right, we'll hand back to somebody else.

Russ: okay.

---

(Omal gets us to the end of the side)


Omal: greetings Russ.

Russ: greetings Omal, how's it going?

Omal: excellent, excellent, and yourself?

Russ: oh, functioning within all the required, specified parameters.

Omal: all the required, specified.........that is a mouthful.

Russ: yeah it is.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: but an accurate mouthful so that's what counts.

Omal: yes.

Russ: anyway, we were discussing earlier illusions and stuff.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: a few other questions to start with first. First off, going through a book that I've been reading on medical answers....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and in that it's showing how pain is a bringer of........

Omal: yes, the advancement. But it is not pain being inflicted. It is necessary surgical amounts of a particular type of pain. The pain being mental pain.

Russ: right.

Omal: the athlete running hard suffers a certain amount of physical pain but mental pain as well. Trying to come to terms with that pain. Also, there is a spiritual type of pain by being in a deep, trance like state, meditating, dwelling on one's inner self. Do you understand?

Russ: how can you get pain from that? You don't like yourself or something?

Omal: no, when you sit down and think and meditate, thinking the process itself can be quite hard. Being able to analyze things in a particular way. It is no good saying that thinking about what color clothes you're going to wear, that is not thinking. But when you think on a deep level on such things as how does this work, why does the internal combustion engine work in that way, why does this pyramid work the way it does? What causes my mind to react in a particular way?

Russ: now I get it. I understand exactly what you're talking about because in my farsighting, when I'm going up to Hades Base, especially nowadays......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: where I'm working with so much high-level technologies and ideas......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: that it can be painful sometimes on my brain....

Omal: yes.

Russ: trying to assimilate all this stuff.

Omal: correct. That is when you are using your brain.

Russ: ohhhh, so it's not a physical or even a horrible mental pain....

Omal: no.

Russ: it's merely the working out.......

Omal: of the brain.

Russ: the exercising of it.

Omal: yes, it is not what color clothes am I going I wear, what shall I say next, does this girl like me, does she dislike me? That is not thinking.

Russ: right.

Omal: but thinking of deep matters is true thinking.

Russ: oh that's right. The other day I came up and I was talking with Karra and she was at the gene machine.......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: at her station I guess.

Omal: her office or station or whatever you wish to call it.

Russ: and she's trying to explain all this stuff to me.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and I'm trying to take this all in and my brain at the same time is going through all the possibilities and everything. Yeah, it hurt.

Omal: exactly.

Russ: it hurt like a mother bear. It was rewarding so I didn't really care.

Omal: exactly. But if you do analytic studies on particular fields, for example, manifestation. How to manifest. The little, minute details.

Russ: oh, like this morning, I'm working on a penny.

Omal: correct.

Russ: I got half of it down....

Omal: hmmm.

Russ: and I couldn't get the back half. But I got a half a penny that looked very good.

Omal: but how do you get that half a penny? What goes into it? It's no good just being able to do it, you have to understand how and why and the only way that you can do that is by doing it yourself. That is why I don't tell you how to do something. If I tell you how to do something, you just do it by rote.

Russ: right.

Omal: but, if you learn for yourself and think about it and reason it out....

Russ: ohhhhhhh.

Omal: that way you learn. It is engraved deeper.

Russ: that's why the gray area is off at times.

Omal: that's right. Because I cannot tell you because you do not learn that way. You know it, you know it by rote.

Russ: that's why with the farsighting I'm working on now, shutting off the main chakra....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: on top of the head, it's taken me what, a year and a half or so to work on?

Omal: yes, things will now start to happen quicker.

Russ: right, because I worked it out and.....

Omal: exactly. For each individual it is different.

Russ: right.

Omal: what works for Tia does not work for you. What works for Mark does not work for Tia or you.

Russ: right, it's an individual learning process.

Omal: exactly.

Russ: so you can get ideas of how it works with them.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and you can apply them if they work great, and if they don't you modify them.

Omal: correct and that way you think and learn. That is why sometimes you have a running battle with Kiri. Is that she can think quicker and she does a lot of her understanding quicker.

Russ: correct.

Omal: she's a quicker minded individual.

Russ: oh yeah.

Omal: she's also very quick humored.

Russ: that's for sure. But at the same time, she also works things out and her brain is always at work.

Omal: yes.

Russ: and her coercion, as phenomenal as it is to work.

Omal: correct. She had to learn how to coerce.

Russ: right, and she applied herself more diligently than I do.

Omal: correct.

Russ: but then I'm stronger in other faculties because I diligently work.

Omal: correct.

Russ: that's why when I've been working on the history of the human race, my brain hurts.

Omal: exactly.

Russ: I mean, when we were going over the Sumerian stuff and the Indus Valley........

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and the Egyptian, I mean, God.

Omal: and did I get strained? Did Luna get strained?

Russ: no.

Omal: it is because for Luna, it is second nature.

Russ: right.

Omal: she looks up this stuff because she can't remember vast quantities of information, nobody can know everything.

Russ: right. But because even though you come up with something that maybe's never come up before anyway.

Omal: correct. When you reason something out, it is like doing simple mathematics. Two and two equals four, but not necessarily.

Russ: right. I get it, I get it.

Omal: so the basics of learning......

Russ: right.

Omal: is more difficult than you realize or people realize on your planet.

Tia: right, because you retain this stuff but you have to research it back out and try to drag it up.

Omal: correct.

Russ: you put that together with what you've learned recently.......

Omal: correct.

Russ: and you can figure two plus two hopefully equaling four.

Omal: correct. By combining two ideas together. So you combine two ideas together, they intertwine, they work together and therefore you can progress on from that point.

Russ: right, but you learn at about the same time.

Omal: correct. You could learn one many years ago and learn something new now....

Russ: sure.

Omal: put them together and you come up with an answer.

Russ: right.

Omal: what happens is, you add one thing to something else, you put them together and you come up with a third thing which is different.

Russ: right.

Omal: two ideas being combined, logically would be the next step on but not necessarily.

Russ: right.

Omal: you can learn something new from those two things. For example, take the hand, take this hand.

Russ: right.

Omal: run your finger down it, it's wet.

Russ: correct.

Omal: now, we know that water comes out from holes.....

Russ: right.

Omal: skin is wet......

Russ: right.

Omal: which shows you a third thing, skin has holes.

Russ: ahh, and we call them pores.

Omal: correct. But that is putting two things together that are unrelated.

Russ: right, I see. That's why I've always said why it's so important you get all the input you can.

Omal: correct. The more that you have at your fingertips the more that you can learn. The more that you learn, the more you want to learn.

Russ: right, right, because you can store all this stuff away and it will be forgotten, it's gone.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: until one time when you add......

Omal: all of a sudden it's there.

Russ: right and it clicks in.

Omal: uh-huh, like this conversation.

Russ: which I will learn from later on when I go back through it.

Omal: yes.

Russ: okay. Now, another thing I was working on was the manifestation we did.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and is there like a way you can lock it into a beam so that it lasts longer in your consciousness? Or your consciousness about it?

Omal: hmmm.

Russ: or like with the penny. I was trying to get that thing to come down here or at least last longer than......

Omal: it is the amount of energy that you can supply into it. It is understanding the mechanics behind it, it is like I just said, that to create something you have to know in detail how to do it. To bring it through with you, what you have to do is to know A, how to create it, B, how to transport it through into the fourth dimension, C, into the third dimension, and D, to keep it here to stop it from dissipating.

Russ: that's four different steps.......

Omal: correct.

Russ: and you have to learn each one along the way.

Omal: manifestation......

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: transportation.......

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: and keeping it.

Russ: right.

Omal: retention.

Russ: now, so the first part manifestation.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: is the part that needs to get worked on.

Omal: correct.

Russ: once you have the manifestation down, then you start working on the rest of the steps.

Omal: correct but you have to be able to keep constantly manifesting that on this dimension so that you can try to take it to the fourth, to the third.

Russ: right. So in other words, I'm trying to go from A to D.....

Omal: correct.

Russ: without learning how B and C work first.

Omal: correct. You have to learn each step one at a time.

Russ: ahhhh, I see. So don't worry about bringing it through until you get the rest of this mess figured out.

Omal: correct.

Russ: because I'm going to spend some time with Alex.

Omal: this is what I'm teaching him is to learn how to do it. You see, he creates things.

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: he doesn't know how he does it.

Russ: right.

Omal: he turns away it disappears, he turns back, he's angry and upset that it's not there anymore. So what I have to do is teach him how to create it, to create it exactly as he wants. I have to teach him how to keep it in play when you take your attention away from it.

Russ: I see.

Omal: I have to get him to understand that the emotion of anger when he turns back and looks for it is irrelevant and quite detrimental. That is why he sometimes has a screaming fit.

Russ: ahhh. He doesn't know better yet.

Omal: no. So that I'm trying to help him to understand.

Russ: well you just said it was the amount of energy.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: so in other words, when he turns away, it's merely the fact that he did not put enough energy into it in the first place.

Omal: well, and the fact that he's still not supplying the energy. If he continued to supply the energy it will continue to be there. Or, if he suddenly increased the energy, it would materialize and then eventually the energy would just dissipate and fade away.

Russ: correct, it could fade away and it would still be there.

Omal: yes, if he manifests it here, looked over here and then turned back, it would still there. But what he's doing now is he's manifesting it, he looks away, he turns back, it's not there.

Russ: right, and he can't understand why.

Omal: correct.

Russ: so, he's learning about focusing his attention then.

Omal: correct.

Russ: amazing at that age.

Omal: well that is why the offspring up here are so good and so advanced is the fact that at an early age we get them and we teach them.

Russ: I see. Now what about Minerva, now she's doing this cat trick?

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and yet she doesn't know how she's doing it.

Omal: no, not yet. We are entertaining her with string when she does that to see if she behaves like a cat.

Russ: ahhh, I see.

Omal: and in fact, when she turns herself into a kitten, she is more mobile than when she is in her baby form.

Russ: but she still has the catlike reflexes, and senses, instincts?

Omal: hmm, she has the instincts yes, which is normal to her half species.

Russ: okay.

Omal: because you've got to remember she is not totally a Durondedunn.

Russ: right.

Omal: she is part Durondedunn and part human.

Russ: right.

Omal: so therefore, she has a difficulty sometimes grasping the fact that she is in herself a new species.

Russ: wow. Yeah, that would be kind of tough.

Omal: well, it is irrelevant for them at the moment. But because she manifests herself into a feline, she doesn't understand that a feline behaves in a particular way. She still behaves like an infant.

Russ: right.

Omal: she will bat at a piece of string to grab it the same way any baby would but she does not do it the same way a cat would.

Russ: I see. But now, I haven't heard on whether she is congratulated or rewarded for doing this.

Omal: she is not discouraged from it.

Russ: okay, but she is not encouraged?

Omal: it is more to see how long she can keep it up for. Once it becomes a rare event, then we will start to encourage her to manifest other forms.

Russ: oh, I see. Okay, so that's part of the training program also.

Omal: correct.

Russ: so you start at birth or before birth even.

Omal: before birth if possible. Unfortunately, on this case it was not possible.

Russ: right, well sort of possible.

Omal: hmmm.

Russ: I had an inkling of things on that one.

Omal: we tried to coach them to calm them down....

Russ: right.

Omal: but calming them down would get Tia worried sometimes because she was so used to the fact that they were boisterous.

Russ: ahhh. Now working with my kids.......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: in the womb still, I'm noticing that they are going to think that that they absorbed the input.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: faster than I do.

Omal: yes.

Russ: now is this the pain process that I'm going through now also that they're going through?

Omal: yes.

Russ: I see.

Omal: they are learning at a faster rate than you do because their minds are young and malleable.

Russ: and they don't have all the external influence that I do either.

Omal: that's right. That is why the kittens are so quiet now compared to how they were........

Russ: ohhhh.

Omal: is because they have so many external inputs compared to the few that they had before. Whereas it was just the heartbeat of the mother, the smell of amino fluids, and just a very faint, red glow. That was all they had. Now they have many different colors, many different smells, touch, many different consistencies of touch. Hearing.....

Russ: ohhhh.

Omal: many, many different sounds.

Russ: so they're soaking all this up and they're not really going to go into like the big meta-faculties that Athena was doing before birth.......

Omal: correct.

Russ: until she gets more input to work with.

Omal: correct.

Russ: I get it, okay.

Omal: she does not at the moment have that much interest in her surrounding in herself because there is so much input from her surroundings. However, she is starting to learn how to farsight.

Russ: oh she is? Oh, that's good.

Omal: yes. Mainly because she has a desire to be with her true mother sometimes.

Russ: ohhhhh.

Omal: and occasionally she will.........what's the word? Thumb a ride?

Russ: oh, hitchhike.

Omal: yes.

Russ: right. Now is she getting her physical body to sleep at that time then?

Omal: yes.

Russ: okay, fine.

Omal: she's not quite sure if she is dreaming or if she is awake.

Russ: ohhh.

Omal: but in actual fact she is mentally awake, physically asleep. So her body drifts around until she sees........somebody else is asleep I think.

Russ: yes.

Omal: twitching.

Russ: all right. So in other words, when she would see me....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: or someone else come in like say to the womb or something when she was growing up, she would see it as common behavior.

Omal: yes.

Russ: popular now. So herself doing that now just follows on that same pattern she's was just growing up with.

Omal: yes, but only when she is in the dormant stage unfortunately. She doesn't do it at the moment because time for being awake is time to play.

Russ: right, that's when the input's coming in..

Omal: correct. So for her to do this, she has to go into the dormant stage.

Russ: it took me thirty-three years of external input before I stopped playing so....

Omal: yes.

Russ: so she's got a head start on me for sure.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: well thank you. Okay, now, I want to go switch over to meta-concert if I could please.

Omal: okay.

Russ: okay. Real quickly, I'm missing out on a particular phase of meta-concert. Now does the energy coming from the secondary pass through the primary on its way to the conductor?

Omal: yes.

Russ: it does?

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, I've been avoiding that part.

Omal: yes, we did discuss that right at the very start.

Russ: right and it's been a while so I wanted check back up on that. Okay. Now, I'd like to know also, is there an easy way to shut down the meta-concert after your purpose has been completed?

Omal: yes.

Russ: just stopping?

Omal: correct.


            
SIDE ONE ENDS

SIDE TWO



(Omal returns to continue channeling)


Russ: your brain still hurt you once in a while?

Omal: yes, it does when I go into some really deep thinking.

Russ: well that's good to know. I mean, at least we're all in the same boat.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, a little question on stellar physics.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: in my travel out today, I was going out as Mark suggested as far as I could.......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and then returning back and then going back up to Hades Base.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, my trip out, I blasted out past Pluto, turned around for a second and get oriented and see where I had come from.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: well, looking back onto our sun and the planets that were within my visible range.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: quite an awe inspiring sight I might add.....

Omal: hmm?

Russ: I noticed the fact that, as I learned in my years of science, that the planets rotate on a singular line.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: in other words, they're not above each other, they're not below each other, they don't travel latitudely and longitudely.

Omal: no. They all travel in the same direction on the same plain.

Russ: right. Now is that because of the sun's magnetic field is on that same plain?

Omal: correct.

Russ: now why does the sun create a field like that?

Omal: because the sun itself rotates.

Russ: right.......it does rotate?

Omal: yes.

Russ: oh.

Omal: it rotates around like this......

Russ: right.

Omal: or like this.......

Russ: right.

Omal: and it also rotates around in the galaxy.

Russ: okay, right.

Omal: now if you look at a galaxy, you will see that is also a plain with a bulge in the center.

Russ: right.

Omal: now the reason why that does it is because of a thing called gravity. The spinning stellar object, your sun, creates gravity because of its rotation.

Russ: right.

Omal: here's a simple experiment that you might try.

Russ: okay.

Omal: you get a ball or an object of some kind, attach a piece of string to it and spin it around your head.

Russ: okay.

Omal: you get a second one on a shorter or longer piece of string, right?

Russ: right.

Omal: and with your hands, get them so they cling together and see if you can get them to hit each other by when you place them in this hand. But they're both on their string, see if you can get the strings, one to hit the other ball.

Russ: okay, I think I know what you're talking about.

Omal: by the spinning of this, this is the sun.....

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: correct?

Russ: right.

Omal: and it's spinning around like this.

Russ: right.

Omal: now the balls will not spin up high up here or low down here or in a different orbit. The reason is because they are orbiting the gravitational field of your hand. The fact that they're being held in by a piece of string is beside the point.

Russ: that could be the center of the galaxy.

Omal: correct. It is a representation of the gravitational pull on the planet.

Russ: I see. And that's why our moon travels in the same pattern as we do around the sun.

Omal: correct.

Russ: the gravity is pulling it.

Omal: correct. The gravity is pulling it towards the sun and the gravity is pulling it towards the planet. In fact it is an equal pull. That is what stays in the same orbit.

Russ: hmm. So everything is traveling in the same rotation.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: same direction, different speeds but everything in the galaxy turns in the same rotation.

Omal: correct. Now, your planet's orbit and almost every other planet's orbit is elliptical. Now tell me why.

Russ: what is elliptical first? Oh, you mean like it's not exactly circular?

Omal: correct.

Russ: why?

Omal: think about it and reason it out.

Russ: why doesn't our planet travel in an exact circle around the sun?

Omal: we gave you the answer just now.

Russ: because the sun isn't exactly circular?

Omal: no. What did we say about the moon?

Russ: I give up.

Omal: we said that the gravitational field of your planet and the sun is equal.

Russ: right.

Omal: so, the galaxy pulls on your planet and at certain points it is stronger and at certain points it is weaker.

Russ: ohh.

Omal: so therefore the elliptical orbit is created by a blank point, something trying to pull it away, but because of the rotation, it reaches a point further by where the gravitational pull of other matter is not as strong as the sun.

Russ: correct.

Omal: so it is pulled back in around until it reaches that point again and it pulls it out.

Russ: right.

Omal: and it comes in again and pulls it out again.

Russ: that's right, that's right. Now, that's another question is, do you get things like warp holes created when two objects come close like say Earth and Mars coming around, they come on the same, they pass around each other because they're both traveling in the same direction?

Omal: correct.

Russ: but one's traveling slower than the other one is?

Omal: hmm, true.

Russ: you would think that the passing of one past the other a little bit faster would create some......

Omal: here's something you do not have the time to do but it would be nice if you could. If you were to watch Mars every night for year, you would notice that Mars at a point in the year appears to go backwards.

Russ: hmm, is that where we pass it?

Omal: correct.

Russ: ahhh.

Omal: see, you're starting to think.

Russ: a brain surgeon, I must be.

Omal: I'm proud of you. You're doing very, very well.

Russ: well the moon does that too.

Omal: correct.

Russ: appears to go backwards.

Omal: correct.

Russ: I'll work on it.

Omal: you're close, very close. But I've already taken some of your learning experience away by explaining various things that I shouldn't have.

Russ: well that's all right.

Omal: the elliptical orbit spectrum.

Russ: I have lots to work on it from that anyway.

Omal: thank you.

Russ: my pleasure. Okay, that's about it. My brain's hurting too much anyway.

Omal: okay, do you have the healing crystal available?

Russ: it's across the room, yes.

Omal: okay. If I was to be a show off like Kiri I would have got up and got it. Okay.

Russ: thank you Omal.

Omal: you're welcome.

Russ: it's been an educational as always experience.

Omal: okay, I'm just charging this up.

Russ: okay, good.

Omal: here, suck on this.

Russ: okay.

Omal: suck the energy out. It's only a rough bump start. Okay, thank you very much, it's an enjoyable evening......

Russ: as always.

Omal: and, I'll be back.

(Russ laughs at the Schwarzenegger impression)

Russ: do you do that in.......well nevermind.

Omal: no, I don't do it in Council meetings, it is for your pleasure.

Russ: I appreciate it.

Omal: each group has its own pleasurable things that amuse them.

Russ: that's a great one, farewell.

---

(Tia comes back on until Karra is set)



Tia: uh-huh?

Russ: hi Tia.

Tia: yeah?

Russ: how's Mark doing?

Tia: oh, he's doing fine, he's fine, he's fine.

Russ: taking care of the kittens?

Tia: yeah, he's looking after the little girls.

Russ: all right.

Tia: and he said if you asked to say finger licking good? Not quite sure what he means by that.

Russ: that makes two of us, don't feel too bad.

Tia: oh. Yeah, continue.

Russ: hmm, did you hear all that from Omal?

Tia: no, I was outside.

Russ: oh, okay.

Tia: I came in the last bit where he was on about..........what was he on about? He was on about other groups.

Russ: well, he had a lot of good information about the kittens.

Tia: ahh. Oh well, nevermind. I can get the transcript.

Russ: okay, fair enough.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: all right, I'm ready for the next distinguished personality.

Tia: okay.

---

(Karra and Kiri team up for this part)


Karra: good evening once again Beanpole.

Russ: hey, another distinguished personality.

Karra: yeah.

Russ: how are you doing love?

Karra: oh, not too bad.

Russ: well that's good to hear.

Karra: now, Tia's suggestion was to......there's one, there is the other. I believe this is the one. We have an energy negative flow coming from this area. Okay.

Russ: okay.

Karra: right, what we're gonna do is we're going to guide you....

Russ: okay.

Karra: and hold on a second. It's fortunate we've still got this semicircular couch set up.

Karra: okay.

(Kiri giggles)

Kiri: teamwork.......coercer, healer.

Russ: great stuff.

Kiri: uh-huh. You'll have to retrieve that in a minute but there is a reason for what we do.

Russ: I'm just trying to understand the reason. Don't want a repeat.

Kiri: exactly. Okay, I'll hand back.

Russ: okay.

Karra: right. Now, Kiri and myself will be switching backwards and forwards but I'll be in your mind as well.

Russ: okay.

Karra: just going to get a little bit confusing for me because I won't be able to vocalize what I want to say when I'm thinking, okay?

Russ: okay.

Karra: we're ready when you are.

Russ: any time.

Karra: okay. Right, now start on the lower part of the knee and remember how we told you to run the crystal?

Russ: uh-huht.

Karra: right, okay. This is the start point and here we go. Okay, that's good. Okay, now we want you to, when you reach the start point to come up over the top of the knee. Okay, this time we want you to go halfway around and then up over the top of the knee the other way. Now, you're going to hunt down the damaged area and have a closer look.

Russ: okay.

Karra: okay.

Russ: right.

Karra: that's it, one of the access points. Now we want you to find the entrance point to the wound. That's where they went in and took out all the bits. Yeah, you could say that's an entrance point. There, clean that area out. Okay, we're going to crank the energy little bit more. Okay, that's good. Growing a little worried there, weren't you?

Russ: yep.

Karra: oh well, sit down and relax.

Russ: that was quite a workout.

Karra: uh-huh.

(Kiri giggles again)

Kiri: teamwork. Yeah, that was teamwork, teamwork, teamwork all the way home.

Karra: okay Beanpole.

Russ: thank you my love. Good job on my head.

Karra: pick up.......

Russ: brain feed.

Karra: yes. Last little bit of the program, now pick it up.

Russ: okay.

Karra: no, the big one and suck that energy in. Suck it in, come on, all the way. Now there might be a little bit of residual pain so when the channeler comes back, tell him not to get up and jump around.

Russ: okay.

Karra: now, his knees going to hurt for a little while because it's aligned and everything and getting the entrance points and everything all sewn up and sucking little bits of gray area and stuff. Kick back, relax. Now, do you have questions.......yes Kiri, do you have questions for me?

Russ: yes I do. Oh, but first a word of thanks.

Karra: you're welcome. That's what I'm here for is to help you.

Russ: oh, saving my life, saving my sanity.

Karra: and nudging you in the right direction but never telling you how to run your life, never.

Russ: and I thank you for that also.

Karra: you're welcome.

Russ: it just takes me a little while to learn but once I learn......

Karra: well, it is most important in a relationship not to try to dominate somebody.

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: you try to dominate somebody and you lose them.

Russ: yeah.

Karra: or, you are dominated by somebody and you don't love them, you fear them.

Russ: right.

Karra: so, by being able to listen, to help, to nudge, to have somebody's shoulder to cry on and to give your shoulder to cry on. To care for, to be cared by.

Russ: absolutely.

Karra: I give and you gave and we both receive.

Russ: isn't that the truth?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: everything else seems kind of anti-climatic, you know? But we'll try to get into some of this stuff anyway.

Karra: okay.

Russ: okay? Now then, first off a little question on genetics with our children.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: now with your abilities and mine blended....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: mine being......

Karra: yes, they will be heightened.

Russ: uh-huh, okay.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: but now will our strengths be increased in them where they're similar or will they maybe come out stronger or weaker?

Karra: hmm okay, now there are many, many different variables.

Russ: right.

Karra: definitely in the healing because we're both healers, they'll come out strong. Manifestation? They could come out stronger or or they could come out weaker.

Russ: there is just some wildcards, isn't it?

Karra: yeah, there are some wildcards.

Russ: when you were showing me that gene machine the other day, that was quite an amazing bit of work there.

Karra: yeah, uh-huh. I couldn't make up my mind whether I want Levi's or Wranglers.

(Russ laughs at Karra's joke)

Karra: and I can't wait to get those shorts back on.

Russ: I'll bet.

Karra: I was looking at them actually just before I came over.

Russ: really?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: anyway, thank you much for helping me with my farsighting experience.

Karra: well, you can thank Tia as well because we do get together and discuss that sometimes.

Russ: oh you do?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: oh, good.

Karra: yeah, she's working hard. She shows a lot of potential.

Russ: hmm.

Karra: uh-huh. I don't mean potential farsighting, she may never reach her full potential. But she's showing potential in being able to organize, to orchestrate, and to get things working.

Russ: oh, and she throws a hell of a party too.

Karra: uh-huh, organization.

Russ: yeah.

Karra: so it is a step on the rung.

Russ: now anyway, my next question is is that meta-concert work going to be too tough on your body or your pregnancy and stuff?

Karra: a little bit, a little bit. That's why I'm going to let you and Alana have some time alone. I'm going to have an early night and then rest for a couple of days.

Russ: okay.

Karra: if you need me, I'll be there.

Russ: I'll always be looking for you if I do.

Karra: uh-huh. Next question.

Russ: working on trying to put in a pain block during labor like with Nazreal working?

Karra: no, there will be no pain block.

Russ: there will be no pain block.

Karra: no, because that way I get more of a bond.

Russ: oh, really?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: that's cool but it's tough for me to understand being a male.

Karra: yeah. It helps in the bonding factor, it also helps to enlarge my capacity a little bit.

Russ: why? Because your psychic ability has increased from the pain.

Karra: correct.

Russ: like what me and Omal were talking about.

Karra: but the opening is a temporary thing. Well, let's say it grows by five units right?

Russ: right.

Karra: for a month to a month and a half afterwards it stays at five units and then finally it dissipates until it's only half a unit to unit that I've increased by.

Russ: but there's still an increase.

Karra: exactly.

Russ: so now when you're going through the pain, is there a particular area you work on at the time?

Karra: no, I just let it go because I've got no control over it at that point.

Russ: oh, so it's just any area could be worked on at any one time?

Karra: yeah, uh-huh.

Russ: oh.

Karra: instead of being able to cruise around the base in the farsight, I may be able to get to your planet.

Russ: well......

Karra: maybe for a month or a month and a half? I don't know.

Russ: neither do I.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: but I don't see how your healing ability would be more improved?

Karra: there is always room for improvement.

Russ: there is?

Karra: wouldn't it be great to be able to go broken leg.......heal.

Russ: yeah, you're right. And the only thing that keeps you from that now is the fact that you don't have that knowledge.

Karra: correct. And I don't have the energy level to do it.

Russ: oh. The pain wouldn't give you that energy level possibly?

Karra: no. For me to be able to do that I would have to be somebody like Ashtar or even higher.

Russ: oh, I see.

Karra: I don't know what Ashtar is capable of.

Russ: but there's room down the road.

Karra: uh-huh. Maybe by the time I'm a thousand years old, I don't know.

(Russ chuckles)

Karra: maybe I would be like them and ascend or do I have to go around again?

Russ: hmm, hard to say. But, I'll be there with you.

Karra: uh-huh. Maybe we'll get to spend the rest of time together. Sorry, I'm getting mushy.

Russ: that's all right, I love it, you know that. Oh, I was going to ask, I have our tapes on vitamins set up for a channeling session?

(Which happened in last month's channeling session)

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: is a way to monitor whether or not those minerals and nutrients will be able to be assimilated during during the D jump at all?

Karra: I wish somebody had been paying attention and told us. Oh well, nevermind.

Russ: okay, well we'll try it again next time.

Karra: okay. Now, how many more questions do you have for me?

Russ: hmmm, one.

Karra: okay, thank you.

Russ: all right, brain food research.

Karra: uh-huh, bananas.

Russ: bananas, thank you.

Karra: oranges. New Zealand fruit.

Russ: kiwi.

Karra: yeah. Strawberries.

Russ: really?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: sounds like a great, little fruit salad.

Karra: yeah, it does, doesn't it?

Russ: yeah.

Karra: hmm, various types of protein, fish oil.

Russ: oh really?

Karra: and to help your fiber, blood, and the fluids, garlic. I knew that was gonna come. Anyway, I gotta go.

Russ: thank you darling. Have a wonderful rest of your afternoon.

Karra: yeah, I gotta go.

Russ: bye.

Karra: bye.

---

(Tia rushes back as Karra rushes out)



Tia: I'll tease her about that. She ran out like this.

Russ: okay.

Tia: and she needed to go to the bathroom. Fortunately, there is one handy.

Russ: I feel I'm holding you girls up sometimes.

Tia: I don't have to worry about it anymore.

Russ: that's true.

Tia: she used to tease me.

Russ: that's true.

Tia: uh-huh. Now it's my turn.

Russ: "oh boy, I hope she's not a mess going down the hallway". I remember that joke.

Tia: yeah.

Russ: that was a good one.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: but you remember the experience well I take it?

Tia: yes, I learned, I learned.

Russ: anyway, I want to thank you also for helping with my farsighting and controlling my lady.

Tia: well, that's what we're here for. I managed to get in quickly. It was sort of like, I heard on the declamatory mode, "any more questions?" And it was sort of like, "I've got to get in". So I heard that last bit.

Russ: okay.

Tia: bananas....I've got a use for bananas though. Not that sort of use.

Russ: come on, as if I would even think of such a thing.

Tia: that's an interesting idea. Hmmm..

Russ: well darling.......

Tia: uh-huh. Well, I've got to hand over to the second to last person.

Russ: I'll work on a phrase and that'll work fine (?)

Tia: okay.

Russ: okay.

---

(Kiri is back solo this time)


Kiri: okay, I get to be on for real this time instead of in the secondary mode helping everybody.

Russ: that's why you such a perfect person.

Kiri: I am?

Russ: well yeah. Engineer coercer combination.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: so your brain is thinking at a mile a minute, eh?

Kiri: yeah. Ping.

Russ: can't hurt worse than I do.

Kiri: well, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice.

Russ: oh.

Kiri: it's funny, when Tia started as ring mistress, right?

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: she was wearing her skirt and her toga type thing and she had it undone to feed. And then she did a back up and she was wearing blue panties. She's not wearing panties anymore.

Russ: hmmm, very suspicious.

Kiri: uh-huh and Mark's still outside and she's gone back out to see him. I think they're smooching out there.

Russ: well, they have the right.

Kiri: uh-huh. Well, she's just finished her cycle, she's just starting a new one.

Russ: well good.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: well, there's a good question for you.....

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: the amount of horniness, for lack of a better word......

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: could that be an increase to education?

Kiri: well, the more intelligent you are....

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: the less rules you have on that sort of thing, on sex.

Russ: that's a little unusual to think of, due to the fact that I can't see........

Kiri: well, when you become more intelligent, you look at the rules that you have, right?

Russ: right.

Kiri: and you analyze them and you realize that there's a whole load of stupid ones.

Russ: oh, yeah.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: unnecessary ones.

Kiri: exactly. But you're also more selective.

Russ: oh. But see, with sexual energy, being one of the highest forms of energy sometimes.....

Kiri: uh-huh, yes. Makes people levitate from time to time.

Russ: yeah, but there is a use for it.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and so the learning coming from using the energy would be probably vital to a lot of people in a lot of different ways.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: so how to use that sexual energy that's important.

Kiri: that's right. Why do you think I've been bringing the house down sometimes?

Russ: so what's your latest lesson?

Kiri: my latest lesson is to go all the way, don't hold back.

Russ: hmm, so that's with the mind meld and everything?

Kiri: hmm, mind meld is for real heightened, heightened sex.

Russ: well isn't that the fact of not holding back?

Kiri: well there's not holding back and then going all the way.

Russ: right.

Kiri: going all the way is going all the way and not holding back is just doing it. Not using any metaphysical capabilities unless of course they accidentally get switched on.

Russ: oh, so there's just going all the way is straight sex?

Kiri: no. Going all the way is mind meshing, the works.

Russ: oh, oh.

Kiri: not holding back is just doing it. Without using PK, mind meld, telepathy, all that stuff.

Russ: so you're going with the mind meld and everything?

Kiri: that's when you go all the way.

Russ: oh, so you're not holding back?

Kiri: yeah, I don't hold back. Occasionally I will go all the way but the thing is if it's at the end of the day, I can go all the way. But if it's, I come home, I've got things to do and everything yeah, I don't hold back.

Russ: I see, I see. So the least you'll do is not hold back.

Kiri: that's right.

Russ: ahh, I get it.

Kiri: and if it's at the end of the day just before we go to sleep, I go all the way.

Russ: okay, well tell me something.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: is the use of that though....

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: going all the way, can you put a use to it then at a certain point?

Kiri: it's just for pure pleasure.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: after all, what's life without no pleasure?

Russ: not very fun.

Kiri: exactly.

Russ: ohhhh.

Kiri: well, next question?

Russ: okay, it's your questions that get me. Now, working on coercion.....

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: I was trying to think of a way of where you mentioned having two beams coming off of each eye into the other person's eye...

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: right. But for me of course, I'm not having as much success with that as I do with a single point split into two.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: this is that point where Omal talked about where it's.....

Kiri: exactly.

Russ: for everybody.....

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: so it's practice, practice, practice.

Kiri: yeah, it's like you can't break my......well, now you can break my look. See, I got ya. I've got you hooked, yeah.  And I figured out what Tia meant by finger licking good.

Russ: well I assumed that but she didn't want me thinking about bananas in the wrong way so I had to assume that that wasn't supposed to be taken in the wrong way.

Kiri: yeah, she gets confused sometimes. It's like she told you off on the meta-concert?

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: she said about children being present? And then she went and said something about sex and being horny and all this stuff?

Russ: I remember.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: well, it's the emotions.

Kiri: how much?

Russ: ohh, it looks like we got five minutes.

Kiri: okay, well I'll hand over to the last person.

Russ: okay, well that's all I had for questions anyway.

Kiri: okay.

Russ: all right love, thank you very much.

Kiri: I'm out of here dude.

Russ: see you later.

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(Alana stops in shortly before leaving)


Russ: hello Alana.

Alana: what's happening?

Russ: well, your mom changed the subject on me.

Alana: ahh yes.

Russ: how are you doing?

Alana: it's coming in stages?

Russ: well good, I'm glad going to be coming up then tonight.

Alana: just you and me in my apartment.

Russ: it sounds like fun.

Alana: yes.

Russ: well I'm glad that I'm getting into the farsighting mode now where I can truly appreciate this more.

Alana: okay. I will ask....ahh, too late, she's gone. I was going to ask auntie Kiri for some sexy clothing?

Russ: ahh, well nothing's pretty sexy to me.

Alana: trying to heighten your visuals.

Russ: ahhh. Well, that is true.

Alana: I will wear my T-shirt and stockings?

Russ: that's a visual treat all right. Thank you very much for this morning's help.

Alana: you're welcome.

Russ: and yes, I'll be coming up there ASAP as soon as this session is over.

Alana: okay. Then I will hand over to Mistress Tia?

Russ: okay, sounds good.

Alana: I'll be awaiting you.

Russ: looking forward to it too love. See you soon.

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(Tia is back for a final time to wrap things up)



Tia: okay, tonight's show was brought to you by Hades Base. Your ring mistress was Tia. Technical supervision by the technicians.

Russ: the technicians, yes.

Tia: technical consultant, Korton, Ashtar, and Omal. Historical data supplied by Luna. Medical knowledge by Karra.

Russ: uh-huh.

Tia: various sundry questions answered by......

Russ: the gang.

Tia: Alana, Kiri, and Omal, Karra, and myself, Tia.

Russ: and of course there's me.

Tia: uh-huh. Okay, well the tape's almost over.

Russ: uh-huh and it's been an enjoyable session.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: always these are enjoyable sessions....

Tia: yeah.

Russ: but tonight was a good one.

(Tia starts singing)

Tia: "shake it up baby, yeah".

Russ: I love this contagion going on around up there.

Tia: "I can't get no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, bump, bump, bump, bump". Oh well. "I have a red door and I want it painted black. Could you foresee this happening to me?"

Russ: "I see a red door....."

Tia: "and I want it painted black". Yeah, who's that by?

Russ: the Stones.

Tia: yeah!!! All right, who's this then?

(We hear the opening of Beethoven's fifth")

Russ: Beethoven......

Tia: okay.

Russ: his fifth.

Tia: yep, let me try another one.

Russ: in A minor.

(Tia sounds out a different concerto)

Russ: "Müller?"

Tia: no.

Russ: it's not Wagner.

Tia: yeah.

Russ: it is Wagner?

Tia: uh-huh. Act I, scene one, "the Valkyrie".

Russ: oh.

Tia: it's just me here, using up tape.

Russ: yeah, just wiping the stuff out.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: we've only got about a minute left or so.

Tia: okey-dokey. I wonder if she'll start playing again.

Russ: oh, how's your eye control coming along?

Tia: working on it.

Russ: you and Kiri work out the details on it yet?

Tia: it's a little bit different for me.

Russ: hmm.

Tia: you see, Kiri always opens this one, right?

Russ: right.

Tia: I always open this one, when I can.

Russ: oh.

Tia: well can't open it all the way.

Russ: it's a start.

Tia: I can't keep it open very long.

Russ: oh.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: really?

Tia: yeah.

Russ: one is good enough. So, were you a kitten when you were growing up?

Tia: of course I was a kitten.

Russ: you changed back-and-forth?

Tia: no, no, I'm still looking into that. But my research so far suggests that manifestation of infants turning into different animals is rare, very rare but it's not unheard of.

Russ: right.

Tia: but I'm still studying and looking into it.

Russ: well, don't forget to look under survival traits.

Tia: oh, I've looked under many different things. I've looked under illusion spinning, I've looked into infants, I've looked into felines, I've looked into survival, I've looked into many different historical factors........Luna's helped me quite a bit with that..........I've looked into medical analysis, I've looked into mental disorders........

Russ: oh.

Tia: I've looked into environmental factors........

 

THE TAPE ENDS