Archivist Notes: It is February of 2025 but we are going back to 1993 for this channeling session with the members of Ashtar Command. We only have time for three of those members though as they take up the bulk of the tape helping us with some important things. This information from nearly thirty-two years ago is as timely now as it was then as we deal with astral travel, nutritional needs, and focusing on a key part of a meta-concert, the role of the conductor. We'll start with a side note which is Tia getting the session going with a debate on the merits of meat eaten raw and whether it is as healthy as opposed to other options. Her feline ancestry explains her dietary desires to like meat raw. We wrap up the debate and move on to farsighting questions such as learning that traveling through the base in our astral bodies has no effect on the physical things in our way. We compare astral travel techniques and she explains that everyone's technique is like a fingerprint that is unique to them. We end with discussing Mark's incredible talent of being able to go solid when traveling to the base. She steps aside after that to allow Karra to take her place in the channeling field. Karra starts off with news she had received about a blood test done on Luna that revealed that either her body was becoming pregnant or a menstrual cycle was beginning. She brought me the good news because it was possible the baby was mine. They had been trying to get Mark and myself to spread our third dimensional genes among our sixth dimensional female friends. Thus, Karra, Kiri, and Tia were all fine with the program. We then get into the training I was looking to begin with her of healing physical trauma through touch and mind. That led to a discussion on proper nutrition achieved through paying attention to the food eaten and fluids taken in throughout the day. A funny side note she brings up is that for eighteen dollars, one could go to the pharmacy and by all the ingredients that make up a human being. We finish up the side with looking at ways we could use to help the fact that Mark's body isn't self-healing when he is on the base in his solid form. It was causing health issues because his astral and physical bodies weren't matching due to his astral body was healing while he was on the base. We would take up the subject again on the second side.

In our efforts to get Mark's body to start healing during his sleep cycle while he was away or channeling, Karra reveals that when they are channeling through him, his body is running at just the bare minimums for survival. She applies the analogy of a submarine crew waiting out a depth charge run with all systems running at the barest minimum. We move on to the subject of what environmental factors are required for life. The one we focus on is atmosphere and how the pressure of it keeps the body's cells in place. Even with oxygen being provided, the human body in the vacuum of space has the fluids sucked out of it and they freeze or even possibly boil. Either way, a person has about thirty seconds of exposure before dying. That's how we cap things off and Tia takes her place so that Omal can begin channeling. The topic I bring up immediately with him is to discuss is meta-concerts and the role of the conductor that I was looking to get more information to pass on to Mark when he got back. It was something Omal and I had started in a previous session but had to be put off until now. The conductor is possibly the most important participant in a meta-concert because they determine the start, they take in and regulate the energy to be passed on to the primary, and they take in any flashback of energy to keep the rest of the participants from any harm. He stresses practice and training in the conductor role by learning the abilities of each of the participants to handle energies depending on their mood. That puts a big responsibility on the conductor to read each of the people in the meta-concert. He switches to a related topic of taking in energy with the hands-on training part of the channeling session. He has me stand up and feel all the energy sources in the room. We had cats, we had crystals, we also had the pyramid surrounding Mark's body. He had me suck the energy and then release it at a particular tempo. He next has me draw in energy using both my physical and astral bodies and then release it. I note the vast difference between the two attempts and thus learned a new way to approach the entire meta-concert process going forward. It was a key bit of knowledge we didn't have before. We finish things with his suggestion to always have a couple cats around when practicing gathering in energy. Tia returns to bring on Kiri who has only seconds to speak before the tape runs out. Before that, Tia confirms that the energy gathering method Omal showed me would be helpful for meditation and astral travel. A great session we're happy to add to the archives and only wish the sound had been comparable to last months channeling session. We suggest following along with the transcript below.

   
In love, light, and wisdom as one,
Russ and Karra                                     

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SIDE ONE



(Tia starts off the session with a lot to go over)




Tia: to questions. To be.....to be.....to be do be do be do be do be do.

Russ: do be do.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: hello. How are you Tia.

Tia: I'm fine.

Russ: good.

Tia: no comments about me being a member of the herbivore family?

Russ: okay, I give up.

Tia: what's a herbivore?

Russ: plant eater.

Tia: uh-huh and what do you call me sometimes? So hello dear.

Russ: oh, well not after you scarfed that massively raw steak the other day, I suppose it's a little tough to call you a herbivore.

(Tia growls)

Russ: hope it stays different(?).

Tia: I would have ate it raw but Mark does have delicate sensibilities around meat.

Russ: well yeah, makes me upchuck pretty quick.

Tia: there's nothing wrong with eating raw steak.

Russ: well, there is a certain problem with certain organisms which the cooking removes but that's supposing a strong digestive system where it wouldn't bother someone like yourself.

Tia: you're talking about tapeworms, right?

Russ: tapeworms, parasites, other various.....

Tia: if the animal is in a healthy environment and is treated.......or genetically engineered so that it is resistant to those sort of things, you don't have to worry about it. After all, did not your people in the northern steppes, Tartars eat raw meat?

Russ: I believe it was marinated first and then just slightly cooked it.

Tia: hold on. No, it was placed under the saddle to tenderize it.

Russ: oh, that would cook it.

(Russ laughs in disgust)

Tia: I didn't have a bowl handy for you upchuck in.

Russ: oh man, I wish you did.

Tia: but I can see can see you now going.....

(Tia makes a retching noise)

Russ: oh God, under the saddle. Grab a little slice once in a while and scarf it on the road.

Tia: I'm just relaying the information from Luna. Now, whatever cooking techniques are there?

Russ: well geez, as long as it involves cooking I don't mind.

Tia: hmm, the people from Denmark, now they have an interesting one. They get raw steak, grind it up, mix it with tartar sauce......

Russ: well, lucky I'm a vegetarian so I don't have to worry about any of this stuff anyway.

Tia: you mean to say you pulled out those poor, defenseless, little vegetable screaming out of the ground by their hair and then devour them?

Russ: no actually, I go to the supermarket and somebody else has already done it for me.

Tia: ahhhh, so you just buy vegetables that have been murdered, huh?

Russ: yeah, right. Basically they gave their lives for the betterment of the human animal whereas the cows just go "huh?" Plants seem to have at least a reason for living that includes being eaten. Cows are trying to grow up.

Tia: yeah, but plants? They have a purpose of reproduction, spreading themselves, growing bigger and stronger, the same with cows. It's exactly the same, no difference.

Russ: well yeah, there is a difference.

Tia:, what?

Russ: because the plant feelings, what plants know what their purpose in life is.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: there aren't any cows going, "move, you're about to get scarfed".

Tia: what about on your continent where it's hot all the time? What about the tigers and the lions that go out and scarf other animals as you put it?

Russ: well I don't really rank up there with Mark and yourself.

(Russ laughs)

Tia: and you.

Russ: not me. Well, I do eat chicken.

(Tia clucks like a chicken)

Tia: so, you are guilty as me, as Mark, as Kiri, as Luna, as Joey, as Calvin......

Russ: at least cook them, gosh.

Tia: well, I cook chicken when I have chicken. I cook lamb when I have lamb. I cook cows when I have cows. Just sometimes I like it raw.

Russ: just seems little bit scarfed.

Tia: there's nothing wrong with eating it raw. Other animals you wouldn't eat raw. So we're all as guilty as each other, agreed?

Russ: oh yeah.

Tia: okay, let us get on with the questions.

Russ: okay, first off.....

Tia: intsy-bitsy spider went climbing up the spout. Down came the rain and washed poor intsy out. Out came the sun and dried poor intsy out. Now intsy-bitsy spider won't get no pie or tea.

Russ: all right my darling, I'd like to know if I could, is Taal going to be working with.....

Tia: we're waiting, we're waiting on him.

Russ: okay, so that's nothing I need to worry about right now.

(Tia purrs like a cat)

Russ: well motherhood certainly suits you. I can see it.

Tia: what do you mean?

Russ: oh, your sense of humor is definitely.....

Tia: I never had a sense of humor before?

Russ: oh, I said you had a sense of humor, didn't I?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: I said it had matured.

Tia: well, I am 21 of your years, you know?

Russ: just a youngster.

Tia: okay, come on, farsighting questions.

Russ: all right......

Tia: otherwise, I shall go zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Russ: okay, you've got to understand these farsighting questions are strictly off the top of my head. Nothing up my sleeve, nothing between my ears.

Tia: okay, I'll agree with that. Quick magic trick for you. Notice my hands never leave the end of my arms.

Russ: all right.

Tia: okay.

Russ: when I went up farsighting today.......

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: and the last couple times, I'm noticing that a lot of my body functions are well regulated while I'm up there. In other words, I can look and be at some place and I'm getting better at being able to maintain a kind of an extra sense of what my body is doing down here.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: but it's still a point where falling asleep.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: that sleep state is still necessary.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: now, one thing I still don't understand, is the trance state actually a light sleep state?

Tia: it's border point, border point.

Russ: border point.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: okay. So in other words, it's that thin line before sleep.

Tia: yeah.

Russ: okay. Now why is it that sometimes it's easier to control than others? Or why is it other people, other people are able to control it better than other people do?

Tia: practice.

Russ: so it is practice. It's not a genetic trait then, it's not something.......

Tia: to a certain extent yeah but it can be the same thing, it can be achieved through practice.

Russ: uh-huh. So in other words, I bet people can get a better use of it than others.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: in other words, they have an advantage.

Tia: yeah.

Russ: but somebody who is latent in it....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: can become operant to that point of that person who has the advantages by the sheer weight of practice.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: okay. Now, is the ability to focus on a fifth dimensional level strictly related to a third sight or third eye?

Tia: no, not really.

Russ: okay, that's just the astral version then.

Tia: yeah.

Russ: okay, now, is there something like contacts for astral version?

Tia: you shouldn't need them.

Russ: no, but I mean a visual sight aid you might say?

Tia: no, you should have perfect vision. You might try looking through your crystal some time though.

Russ: looking through my crystal, how so?

Tia: it will show you some interesting things. It might help to clear your mind a little bit beforehand. Let you relax. Because, sometimes it's harder to farsight if your mind is in a turmoil. It's best to be nice and relaxed. Not too relaxed where you go snore.

Russ: really? Well that's the problem I have is keeping awake but still asleep.

(Tia blows a raspberry)

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, so looking through the crystal though gives your mind a little bit more relaxation I take it?

Tia: yeah.

Russ: okay, sort of like a focusing tool.

Tia: yeah, uh-huh.

Russ: makes your spirit faster.

Tia: uh-huh, yeah, that's what I mean.

Russ: okay, and then hopefully I suppose so.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, now, once I'm up there......

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: and I'm standing around in Karra's room....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: we're studying anatomy and fun stuff like that and then I want to go visit Nazreal....

Tia: yeah?

Russ: I basically farsight to Nazreal's room. Now, in the meantime, I'm passing through oh hell, I don't know what, people's bedrooms, refrigerators, computers, walls, ceilings, I'm basically cutting through anything that's in my way.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: now, am I causing any disruptions up there as far as power supply interruptions.....

Tia: no, no, no, no, no, no...

Russ: somebody's sleep.

Tia: just keep going as fast as you can to get here. Don't slow down.

Russ: okay.

Tia: and just keep looking ahead.

Russ: okay. Now, I am using a new technique as far as farsighting goes.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: which is going ahead and creating a dimensional door....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: to go through on my way up.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: so that it's a doorway that separates my body from my astral body.

Tia: yeah?

Russ: and I've set it up in the form of a pentagram which has to be traced out first then opens up like the doorways up there.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: then once going through that doorway, I allow my consciousness then to inhabit my astral body.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: and the doorway closes behind me.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: and then take off from there.

Tia: and you go zooooomwhoossshhhhhh.

Russ: now, in your vast experience, is a way I can improve on that system at all?

Tia: well, my way differs from Mark's way and Mark's way differs from your way.

Russ: right.

Tia: and never shall the twain meet. We each have our own different techniques and your technique is particular to you only. It's like a fingerprint.

Russ: right. But there are focusing traits and stuff that you know which I don't know.

Tia: let me see, how do I put it? Normally, I just get up and wander around for a few seconds, take a few breaths, lie back down, step out and go.

Russ: uh-huh. Now are you conscious of your body while you're gone.

Tia: hmm, depends on what sort of farsighting I'm doing.

Russ: okay. So whereas Mark has no memory or recall whatsoever of what he thought he did while he was gone.

Tia: I think that's only whilst he's doing a D jump. Because if you remember, when you would be doing some farsighting to some city places, off in that direction somewhere, you two were communicating were you not?

Russ: uh-huh.

Tia: so therefore that fills you up.

Russ: so it just depends on what kind of farsighting.

Tia: correct.

Russ: really?

Tia: I think the only time that you go unconscious totally is when you do a dimensional jump or a really, really long, long one.

Russ: hmmm.

(We hear Tia licking something)

(Russ starts to laugh)

Tia: hmmm?

Russ: I don't think I'll repeat that. Anyway, that's all the questions I have for now.

Tia: your cats would sit together gently lapping Joey.

Russ: see you later.

---

(Karra now comes as the second speaker)



Karra: good evening. Well, what can I do for you?

Russ: mentally or physically?

Karra: mentally.

Russ: well, we've got a lots of stuff to work with. Anyway......

Karra: yeah.

Russ: this is from a session where a person was in awe of Karra.

Karra: I am a mortal just like you. There is nothing special about what I do.

Russ: that's true.

Karra: you too can be as knowledgeable as myself.

Russ: yeah, I'm working on it but......

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: I've never known that the work I need to do is so vast.

Karra: uh-huh. Now a quick piece of information for you.

Russ: what?

Karra: on my way to this channeling session, guess where I came from?

Russ: the pier?

Karra: no, my lab.

Russ: really?

Karra: uh-huh. I was running blood tests....

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: doing chemical analysis on blood.

Russ: really?

Karra: and there is a slow chemical change happening in somebody's body.

Russ: yours?

Karra: no, not mine.

Russ: Alana?

Karra: no.

Russ: Kiri's?

Karra: no.

Russ: Luna?

Karra: yes.

Russ: I knew I'd get it sometime.

Karra: eventually. Now, why does a chemical change happen in a young lady's blood?

Russ: because the blood can tell a lot.

Karra: which is?

Russ: that there is a feeling of what it felt like when she was first pregnant.

Karra: uh-huh, exactly.

Russ: right.

Karra: now the chemical change isn't a definite yes, not yet. But the change is happening. Now a similar change occurs when the menstrual cycle starts.

Russ: you said it's like a start for a week and a half.

Karra: no, so that's why I'm looking at it very carefully.

Russ: good.

Karra: it's unlikely that it's early but she's not particularly regular sometimes.

Russ: hmm.

Karra: so it is too early to tell and try not to get your hopes up.

Russ: I won't, I'll just keep practicing.

Karra: uh-huh. Okay, let us continue.

Russ: okay. Oh, when are we gonna work on Mark's knees again?

Karra: hmmm, tonight might not be a good time. How about next session?

Russ: okay, good.

Karra: okay, yeah. Why do you ask?

Russ: well I was going over the tapes tonight and in it you were mentioning how you wanting to work on Mark's knees and this was back in August.

Karra: uh-huh. Are they giving him any problems?

Russ: no, but it reminded me that we never got to that place.

Karra: ahhh.

Russ: with his being up on Hades Base as much as he is......

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: and with what Omal and I discussed last time.....

Karra: yes?

Russ: about his body's ability to rejuvenate itself....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: it might be handy if we gave him a little assist once in a while.

Karra: we can try, we can try.

Russ: okay. Now, before starting.......

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: a little thing came to me about interactive......

Karra: yeah.

Russ: or inter-active.

Karra: healing.

Russ: healing, right. And this was the psychic power of healing.....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: through touch and mind.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: and I'm wondering how much of that we can work with as far as part of our course?

Karra: okay, what particular field are you interested in?

Russ: well mostly being able to transmit a lot of this information I'm going through now.....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: through touch.

Karra: yeah.

Russ: studying the knowledge of it on a cellular level.

Karra: no, no, no, no. What I'm saying is, what field of medicine are you interested in doing?

Russ: general.

Karra: general. So mental health care?

Russ: right.

Karra: healing somebody's mental dysfunction.

Russ: oh, no. Healing physical trauma through touch and mind.

Karra: okay, we can do that.

Russ: good.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: anyway, working on that anatomy and physiology book......

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: and going through the basic building blocks of matter......

Karra: yeah.

Russ: I'm realizing that's why I'm so much involved the fact that you have to deal with genetics on a much tighter scale than what I'm even thinking about.

Karra: yeah. Well, actually it's not as tight because the gene pool up here is clean.

Russ: hmm, that's true. It must be a lot easier to work with. Now one thing I noticed was, a question came up was, atoms bond by exchanging electrons.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: these are called ions.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: okay. Now, what I couldn't figure out is, do the atoms that exchange electrons, is that because there are spaces that are available for them to bond with?

Karra: don't know, I'm not a physicist. How many times have I got to tell you that?

Russ: well, molecules are made up of atoms.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: you deal with molecules.

Karra: yes but I don't go down to that level.

Russ: oh.

Karra: when you start talking about atoms and molecules, you're talking on a physics scale.

Russ: oh. What do you deal with, the cellular?

Karra: yeah. You see, I'm interested in this stuff and this stuff and this stuff, calcium. So you've got to know a little bit of chemistry and a little bit of physics.

Russ: so biochemistry?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: oh. Okay, well let's go to inorganic compounds.

Karra: okay.

Russ: now, inorganic salts.....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: the book doesn't describe where inorganic salts comes from.

Karra: I can tell you.

Russ: oh.

Karra: go down to the sea and drink the water.

Russ: okay, so that's sea salt?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: hmm. Okay.

Karra: it's not organic, it's raw.

Russ: oh, so that's why it's inorganic.

Karra: correct.

Russ: okay, I see. Now we're taught that salt is bad for you and yet it's also important for you.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: so there's a proper......

Karra: percentage, yes, there is.

Russ: okay.

Karra: and it varies from species to species.

Russ: hmmm.

Karra: and at the moment I don't have the figures on the top of my head.

Russ: does it vary from person to person?

Karra: yes it does as well. Not that much.

Russ: hmm.

Karra: it can be a few milligrams.

Russ: I see.

Karra: but it does vary. It depends on size, how much an individual sweats.

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: perspires. How much active a person is. Their age and more.

Russ: okay. Now what controls the concentration of inorganic salts to make sure that......

Karra: the amount of fluid in the body.

Russ: okay. So in other words, if you eat a lot of salt you should drink a lot of fluid.

Karra: correct. Well you will learn that, it makes you thirsty.

Russ: that's true. Okay, because I noticed that it's important for proper water concentration. Letting the body develop its own salt concentrations.

Karra: yeah, it's responsible for a lot of things.

Russ: it transfers them between the cells and muscles and nerve functions.......

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: for electrolyte balance.

Karra: yeah.

Russ: now how is it the salts work with that though? I mean, is it just because they're such a necessary part of the human body?

Karra: yeah.

Russ: hmm.

Karra: let me explain. Do you know how much the human body is worth?

Russ: no.

Karra: if you were to go to your local pharmacy and buy all the chemicals?

Russ: I give up.

Karra: about eighteen dollars.

(Russ and Karra both break over that point)

Russ: oh God. Well that puts it into perspective.

Karra: I find it very amusing.

Russ: it is. But putting it all together, back to this part.......

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, what came out? Now, that supplied massive energy.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: I'm looking for sources of fats, is this then in meats?

Karra: it's in quite a few things. It's in oils, but fat, a useful thing.......

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: serves a purpose. When you build up fat, what is it for?

Russ: it's for metabolism.

Karra: it's for energy. So if you build up a layer of fat it's good for you but if you build up too much it's bad.

Russ: right.

Karra: so you've got to know how much fat to build up.

Russ: really?

Karra: now fat, can form in all sorts of places.

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: now external fat, fat that you eat from Tia's favorite food is not that good for you.

Russ: no. Now, I've noticed that the differences between saturated, polyunsaturated, and unsaturated are very vast.

Karra: uh-huh, yeah.

Russ: it's between a single carbon binding with atoms...

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: or double bonded. What is the difference between the two kinds, meat and fish? Is that one's polyunsaturated, one is saturated?

Karra: it's more the density and the amount.

Russ: oh.

Karra: uh-huh, and the type of cholesterol that is mixed with it.

Russ: oh, I see.

Karra: you see, not all cholesterol is bad.

Russ: right.

Karra: and not all cholesterol is good.

Russ: right, now do the fat and cholesterol bond then?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: okay. So they make up a single kind of molecule.

Karra: yeah. If you were to take cholesterol out of the body totally, that would be very detrimental.

Russ: but too much of it is also detrimental.

Karra: correct.

Russ: so again we come to a question of balance.

Karra: exactly. You see, your diet has to be balanced practically.

Russ: oh.

Karra: sometimes you can overindulge as long as a couple of days later you underindulge.

Russ: I see.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, because right now I'm interested in helping out both Mark and I as far as diet goes.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: and increasing the amount of proper.....

Karra: nutrients.

Russ: nutrients, right.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: and a lot of that includes fat, carbohydrates, salts and other things.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: well, reading this book for example.....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: I'm trying to learn the differences in what we eat and how it affects our bodies.

Karra: uh-huh. What sort of protein does Mark indulge in?

Russ: meat?

Karra: yeah. What sort?

Russ: let's see, chicken.....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: we had some fried chicken tonight. Hmmm, meat and chicken.

Karra: well what sort of meat? Meats is a very large area.

Russ: steak every once in a while, once a month or so.

Karra: that's not too harmful. He could increase that to once a week.

Russ: hmm.

Karra: that is not that harmful.

Russ: okay. Well something I read about tonight was concerning how heat disorganize some protein molecules.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: for example eggs.

Karra: yeah.

Russ: in which the egg white, which is denatured, and then heat makes it comes to nature.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: and the egg whites turn liquid into a solid.

Karra: correct.

Russ: but it can't be reversed.

Karra: exactly.

Russ: so therefore, it becomes nonfunctional and threatens the life of the cell.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: now, is that why eggs are bad for you?

Karra: in small doses they're good for you. When you eat eggs in large quantities because they're so high in cholesterol....

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: that's when they become harmful.

Russ: see, this is the balance, going through the small amounts of cholesterol from eggs.....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: bonding with the fats....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: to create the proper balance.

Karra: yes. An egg a day is all right. Two eggs a day is border point. More than that and you're asking for trouble.

Russ: oh, I see.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: okay.

Karra: but again, that can be counted by let's say that for two days you have six eggs, right?

Russ: right.

Karra: and then you go oh, two or three weeks without having any eggs at all.

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: and it gives it a chance to get it out of of your system.

Russ: oh, I see, okay. So lots of things like that also you can find would be the problem....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: but would turn liquid to solid.

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: for example lard.....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: which is a saturated fat....

Karra: well, that can go from a solid to liquid back to solid.

Russ: oh, I see. And back vice versa.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: ohhhh.

Karra: but it is very, very high in cholesterol. Extremely high in cholesterol.

Russ: lard?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: so that's a fat that is also very high in cholesterol.

Karra: it's a pure fat. That's what lard is.

Russ: right. Now does that mean that it's going to be really the cholesterol that should be a balance except that it's not because it's too much cholesterol.

Karra: correct.

Russ: oh, I see. Oh, okay.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: now, going on to cellular functions and stuff....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: I became interested in DNA and RNA. Now......

Karra: it's for you, it's a cellular thing.

Russ: now, the nucleic acid....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: that controls cell activity, the large nucleotides which contains atoms of hydrogen, oxygen, nitrogen, phosphorus.....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: you can make nucleotides.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: five carbon sugar which are five carbons called something....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: and that's DNA and RNA.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: now DNA, from what I'm learning, stores information, tells the cell parts how to construct specific protein molecules.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: and then the protein acting as enzymes are responsible for all the metabolism system actions in cells. Thus they duplicate themselves in each living form cell is an exact copy of its parent's cell that carry instructions for vital life processes.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: but what's firing them?

Karra: if I told you.....

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: you wouldn't go looking for them then.

Russ: well it's not in there.

Karra: it is in there.

Russ: it's not in the book.

Karra: well, you've got to go and research it because you will stumble across other things that you will learn. If I tell you, then you're not learning anything. You're not going to stumble across other things, you'll be able to ask the questions then.

Russ: all right, now, one thing I want to know is this is going to help Mark a lot......

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: learning about DNA. Because this is the part that's responsible for rejuvenation.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: because this is the part that is....

Karra: being switched off when he goes farsighting or doing a dimension jump.

Russ: right. Now is this because they are not duplicating themselves?

Karra: correct.

Russ: hmmm. Okay, now, is there a way to make the DNA process happens when he's out of body?

Karra: I can't think of any but I will look into it.

Russ: thank you.

Karra: none that I can think of offhand.

Russ: hmmm, okay.

Karra: we are aware that doing long dimension jumps up here is harming himself.

Russ: uh-huh. Now what about when he's up there? Does his astral body....

Karra: yes it does, that body does heal itself. It does continue rejuvenating itself which is part of his problem, the reason why when he comes back everything is so aching is because his rejuvenation process of his astral body compared to his physical body does not match. So it is like rubbing against each other which irritates the astral body and the physical body which means that touch, taste, smell, hearing, sight, all become sensitive. It is like when you rub your hands together for a long period of time. They become sore, do they not?

Russ: yes they do.

Karra: and that is what is happening with the astral and the physical.

Russ: ahhhh. Now, if he was able to pull his body through...

Karra: uh-huh, he would become mad.

Russ: well no, but I mean if he did pull his body through.......


            
SIDE ONE ENDS

SIDE TWO


(Karra returns to the same subject on the second side)



Karra: okay.

Russ: okay. Now then, the DNA itself is controlled by the brain, correct?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: and the brain commands the DNA to reproduce.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: all right. Now, the electrical functions that make the brain produce the DNA.....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: why do they stop when he's in astral form? Because you would think if the brain is still controlling the body to breath and make the heart pump, that would make also the DNA.....?

Karra: no, what happens when he leaves and goes farsighting, right?

Russ: right.

Karra: he is running at bare minimums. Enough to keep the circulatory system flowing, enough to keep the electronic impulses in the brain going, that keeps the heart beating, the lungs breathing, and the digestive system going.

Russ: really?

Karra: and that's it. It is cut down to the bare minimum.

Russ: okay, now....

Karra: let me look for an analogy. Hmmm, select service, silent routine?

Russ: oh, Silent Service.

Karra: yeah.

Russ: right, submarine game.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: right.

Karra: silent routine, that is what the body does.

Russ oh, I see.

Karra: you see, when we are channeling, his body runs at approximately the same speed, maybe a little slower.

Russ: right.

Karra: but when he does farsighting and he does a D jump to here.....

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: his body slows down.

Russ: hmmm, I see.

Karra: but when he makes the jump, the disconnection, you see, it accelerates and then the mind or the brain tells the body to slow down.

Russ: uh-huh, I see. Now, the DNA......

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: is acted upon by the proteins acting as enzymes.

Karra: yeah.

Russ: now proteins are acting as enzymes.......

Karra: uh-huh.
 
Russ: and they're responsible for the metabolic action in the cells....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: then what would happen if he were to eat a big meal before D jumping?

Karra: he'd probably fall to sleep.

Russ: probably.

Karra: I don't know as I'm not a farsighter. Save this one for next time, okay?

Russ: okay. Hopefully, this is going to be a solution to our problem.

Karra: I don't think there is a solution.

Russ: yeah, but if you don't try stuff.....

Karra: yeah, experimentation is good. Okay.

Russ: all right. Oh yes, this morning when we were going over functions for life....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: one of the functions was atmosphere.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: now, how is it that atmosphere is necessary for life? I mean if you had oxygen but no atmosphere you couldn't live?

Karra: hmmm, life exists in many, many different forms.

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: and oxygen is not a constant.

Russ: hmmm. It's the pressure I guess, the atmospheric pressure.

Karra: correct.

Russ: does that help keep the body stable or something?

Karra: no, what it does is it help keep the molecules in place, the cells in place. You see, I might do that, what am I doing?

Russ: itching, knocking cells off.

Karra: correct. So, the pressure of the air keeps the cells from just floating off.

Russ: oh.

Karra: you see?

Russ: they keep the cells on the body.

Karra: there are many, many contributing factors to life. Correct chemical balance, correct chemicals full stop.

Russ: oh.

Karra: atmosphere, fluid, which isn't totally necessary, environmental factors, and we're all kind of generalizing it.

Russ: right.

Karra: but life can also exist in the strangest of places.

Russ: yeah, I've noticed that.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: but in the work that I'm doing would be healing and search and rescue and stuff.........

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: is that going to be an important factor for me to keep a point on?

Karra: well, whatever you do, don't step outside the ship when you're in space.

Russ: okay, it's bad?

Karra: well, in the astral it doesn't really matter but in the physical form.....

Russ: I mean, if I just had an air mask, right? And step outside the ship, it's not going to do me any good whatsoever.

Karra: no. And you want to know why?

Russ: because the atmosphere is lacking?

Karra: uh-huh, and what else would happen?

Russ: my body would not be able to breathe in vacuum.

Karra: uh-huh, and what else?

Russ: the vacuum would suck the fluids out of my body?

Karra: uh-huh, and what does that cause?

Russ: dehydration.

Karra: uh-huh. Well actually what happens is, as it sucks out the fluids, it freezes and you freeze.

Russ: plus it's massively cold.

Karra: correct. But it can also be massively hot as well.

Russ: ahh, but it doesn't matter due to the fact that your fluids are being sucked out, whether they get boiled off or they get frozen........

Karra: correct.

Russ: your body is not getting helped out one little bit.

Karra: it takes approximately thirty seconds for you to expire.

Russ: oh, so that's why they call it an atmospheric pressure suit.

Karra: uh-huh. Because it holds in the pressure and the atmosphere. Oh well.

Russ: thank you Karra.

Karra: oh, you're welcome. Yeah, I've been hogging all the tape.

Russ: well, this is important stuff I had to get through.

Karra: okay. Well, I'll hand back.

Russ: okay.

Karra: see you later.

Russ: eighteen dollars.

Karra: don't start me.

Russ: okay.

Karra: bye.

Russ: bye.

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(Tia takes over until Omal is ready to channel)


Russ: hello Tia.

Tia: hello.

Russ: well, we'll get on to important, fun stuff here.......

Tia: oh goody, goody, goody, goody.

Russ: with whoever's left. Well I don't want to use up all the tape just yet.

Tia: okay, party pooper.

Russ: okay. We'll have the opportunity to talk once we get all this important stuff out of the way.

Tia: okay. I'll be back.

Russ: all right.

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(Omal is the night's main speaker)



Omal: greetings and felicitations Russ.

Russ: greetings Omal, it's one of those nights.

Omal: yes it is, isn't it? It is entertaining and how are we functioning?

Russ: we have been entertained.

Omal: good.

Russ: and functioning great.

Omal: functioning above specified parameters, are we not?

Russ: well and above, yes.

Omal: okay, let us proceed.

Russ: okay, digging into oh, all kinds of fun stuff tonight. Let's start off with meta-concert please.

Omal: okay.

Russ: now, as we discussed, I was going through a tape tonight, in which you mentioned that later in the session which we never got to we would practice a conductor training exercise.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: but unfortunately, he went into other matters instead and we never got to that part.

Omal: okay, remind me in the next session and we will do so.

Russ: okay.

Omal: okay? We want to keep the energy supplied for certain frivolous entertainments to prove a point.

Russ: anyway, is there such a thing as a solo meta-concert?

Omal: no.

Russ: is there a way to practice meta-concert in a solo form that, even though you don't generate the proper amount of energy....

Omal: yes, just running over the principal.

Russ: run over the principles. So you learn the step up process?

Omal: yes.

Russ: okay, so using that for specific functions......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: like the candle, you can gain more practice in meta-concert use.

Omal: correct.

Russ: okay. Now then, we were dealing with at one point at that same tape the Mayan books and the translations......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: Ashtar touched on and we got into a little bit about the keys and explanations. I wondered if you had any more information for me about that.

Omal: well, at the time we pointed out that it wasn't wise for this knowledge to be released at this time.

Russ: right.

Omal: that the translation could take many years. And the reason is that you're not ready as a species for that knowledge. Maybe in twenty or thirty years.

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: or the knowledge could be harmful or it could be so obtuse as to be debated on what it actually means.

Russ: that's true. Okay, but what he mentioned was, it was a key and an explanation about traveling specifically.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: now just a little touch on, if it's not too much of a gray area there, was that traveling as in a D jump with your body?

Omal: I'm afraid that is a gray area.

Russ: it is a gray area.

Omal: yes, the only way for you to learn how to do a physical D jump is through trial and error.

Russ: oh, I see.

Omal: we will tell you if you are pursuing the wrong path.

Russ: right.

Omal: but we will not tell you if you are pursuing the right path.

Russ: okay, good. So, for historical purposes, we're going to leave that for histories.

Omal: yes.

Russ: excellent. Okay, we can work with that. All right, now then, you also mentioned on the same tape that behind Venus there was a star. In other words, somebody working with Sumerians would describe the evening star and the morning star as being two different stars.

Omal: yes.

Russ: and that somebody said that they were from Venus, from that star......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: it might actually mean they were from an earthlike planet, they actually might mean the star that was directly in line which you mentioned.....

Omal: yes.

Russ: and sometimes possibly.

Omal: yes.

Russ: I was wondering if you had the information on which star that was so I can aim for that? Or if that was not a gray area.

Omal: it is a gray area.

Russ: it is a gray area.

Omal: yes, we seem to be touching quite a number of gray areas at the moment, don't we?

Russ: well, you know how works.

Omal: yes, sometimes you do, sometimes you don't.

Russ: right, you never can tell.

Omal: no.

Russ: okay, now........

Omal: Korton's favorite feline.

(Russ chuckles)

Omal: greetings feline.

Russ: he does like to have someone paying attention, that's for sure.

Omal: uh-huh and unfortunately Korton is very busy at the moment, extremely busy.

Russ: well I understood that.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: I mean, he would've for sure been here otherwise had it not been....

Omal: yes. He wants to make a concerted effort to be here for the next channeling session.

Russ: okay, well it looks like were going to have a pretty important one to go over all the stuff that we're saving up for that point.

Omal: okay.

Russ: all right. Now then, going on to.......back to meta-concert real quick.

Omal: okay.

Russ: okay. Now, we were discussing how in a larger group of meta-concerts.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: that the energy is sent from the secondary to the primary almost immediately.

Omal: yes.

Russ: now this is for to be able to make a major amount of power quickly to the primary.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: now, with the conductor being such a crucial role........

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: as to take the power in from the primary real quickly and then another mass of power real quickly from the secondary......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: how does the conductor manage to make the transition from a slow energy buildup to a real fast energy buildup?

Omal: by practice. By steadily increasing his capacity to handle energy.

Russ: okay, so it's not just energy though, it's also how quickly the energy can come in.

Omal: yes, it is a practice. You have to practice to start off with a few people......

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: or one person even sending the energy and handling that and then you increase it to two people and then three people and so on.

Russ: right.

Omal: but when you reach five people you can start doubling it.

Russ: hmm, I see. Now you also mentioned here in something you have working with five people......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: that the conductor, one of the prerogatives of him would be to be able to handle or to know the energy of each of the people in the group.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and how those people work with energy.

Omal: correct.

Russ: now, in doing so, is that done by the ability to work with each person singularly.....

Omal: yes.

Russ: or working with each person as a group?

Omal: both actually. Working with each person individually and knowing how they work with the group.

Russ: okay. Now, people being infallible as they are, tend to vary as far as their energy levels go.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: according to their moods, emotions or something like that.

Omal: correct. The conductor has to know everybody well to know how when they are in a sad mood they handle energy. Or when they're in a happy mood, how they handle energy or an aggressive or an upset or a negative and so on. It is necessary for the conductor to know these individuals well.

Russ: okay. Now, one of the fallacies about humans.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: is about the fact that they hide their feelings well. And where a person looking for something physical could to say that these people are happy when in actuality they're quite depressed but hiding behind a very good persona.

Omal: correct.

Russ: how does a conductor get a knowledge of them?

Omal: by being able to read the astral form.

Russ: ahhhh, there's the tricky part we haven't discussed yet.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: how is the astral form able to be read by the conductor?

Omal: he should be experienced enough. However, if he is not that experienced, there is another way.

Russ: okay.

Omal: look into the eyes.

Russ: the eyes.

Omal: the eyes are the gateway to the individual.

Russ: okay. Obviously, this will take a lot of practice in eye reading then.

Omal: correct. So the conductor should start working with people's eyes.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: determining moods from them. Okay, that's the tricky one of them all.

Omal: oh yes.

Russ: I mean, first off, you can't hide anything in your eyes, but how do you determine....?

Omal: what sort of mood it is.

Russ: that's right. How do you judge what the eyes are saying?

Omal: to the size of the pupil, the amount of iris visible, to how steady the eyes are. If they're constantly moving from side to side, somebody tends to be very agitated.

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: or if they're looking at somebody and they're wide, it means that they are receiving a lot of light so they're looking at you possibly with a little bit of interest. Or, if the eyes are glazed, it means that the person is either in an aggressive mood or a sad mood.

Russ: hmmm. Okay, now, if I was the excellent conductor that I always wanted to be....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and let's say I'm not there really good at reading eyes....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: or at least people still have a tendency to throw me off after I read their eyes.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: now, how would a good conductor be able to control the mood so that each of the people in the group are in the same mood which would make it easier to be able to read?

Omal: what do we do sometimes to you when you're in a slightly negative mood?

Russ: make me laugh.

Omal: exactly. Humor, it is a very good teaching aid.

Russ: yes.

Omal: and it is also a very good tool to help people along their path to help them to increase their energy. After all, if you're laughing and joking, are you not bouncing around?

Russ: true. It's an increase in energy.

Omal: correct.

Russ: ahhh. Now you've had experience being a conductor quite a bit I take it?

Omal: uh-huh, yes.

Russ: now when you are.....

Omal: yes, I remember the 76 Spyrit (?) performance. Yes, I did conduct well.

(Russ laughs at the joke)

Russ: okay.

Omal: a good example right there, you were being serious.

Russ: a good routine, yes, I see that. Okay, now, with the ability to control moods.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: are you also then able then to control to the point where the meta-concert takes place then being the conductor?

Omal: yes.

Russ: so you are the one, not the executive, but the conductor is the one who says when the go sign is.

Omal: yes.

Russ: okay.

Omal: the conductor is more important than the executive. The executive can be played by any individual.......

Russ: right.

Omal: that can handle power like that....

Russ: needs fine focus.

Omal: yes. It is the conductor's job to regulate the amount of flow to the executive.

Russ: but also be able to judge when the time is right to start.

Omal: correct.

Russ: I see.

Omal: so, who is the most important person in the meta-concert?

Russ: the conductor.

Omal: no.

Russ: the executive?

Omal: no. They're all equally as important.

Russ: oh, I see.

Omal: you can have an exceptional conductor, but without a executive, if he doesn't know how to use the energy......

Russ: right.

Omal: or, you can have a primary which is good but a conductor that does not know how to use the energy properly.

Russ: so that's why when we worked out the meta-concert down here.......

Omal: exactly.

Russ: you had a faulty executive.

Omal: correct.

Russ: I see. And so the conductor has to know how good the executive is too.

Omal: correct.

Russ: ahh, so this is a well-trained, well operated group of individuals.

Omal: yes. It is a very precise, interactive group. When we did the meta-concert up here, we each know each other's ability.

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: so therefore, we can have a very interactive group that knows exactly what to do step-by-step.

Russ: hmm, I see. Okay, now, because I was the variable in that...

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: you took a chance on that.

Omal: well, it was necessary to teach you.

Russ: right. Okay, now, can the conductor then work on increasing the executive's ability?

Omal: yes.

Russ: okay.

Omal: but also the executive can work on increasing his ability.

Russ: so the the conductor should be a good executive also.

Omal: uh-huh. Each has to know each other's function.

Russ: right.

Omal: now, can you do me a favor?

Russ: sure.

Omal: stand up........sit down, stand up, sit down.

(Russ laughs)

Russ: okay, stand up?

Omal: yes, there is a reason why. Okay.....

Russ: right.

Omal: now, feel all the energy around you. Stretch your arms out, like thus, and feel all the energy around you. From the cat over there, to the feline here, the channeler's physical body, feel all the energy. The energy of the pyramid. You got your eyes closed?

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: okay. Now, feel all of that energy around you. Now with your physical body and your astral body, take a deep, deep breath. Inhale and keep inhaling until I tell you to stop. Inhale.........stop, exhale. Now, you're going to take a bigger breath this time. Go from here and go....

(Omal takes a deep breath)

Omal: not yet, not yet. Okay, now relax. Stand on one leg, jump up and down, do a twirl, touch your toes, okay now, take a deep breath.............stop, exhale. Okay, now you may sit down if you wish. Now, see the difference between the first one and the second one.

Russ: vast difference.

Omal: the first one, you just sucked in a little bit of energy.

Russ: right.

Omal: but on the second one you sucked in a lot of energy.

Russ: right.

Omal: you feel the charge.

Russ: righttttt.

Omal: when you exhale, you feel the energy physically leave you.

Russ: ahhhh, there's a difference.

Omal: now, when you do a far hail, you do the process. You suck in the energy from around you, the conductor hits you with the other energy as you're sucking in. When he does the countdown and he reaches now, you suck in as he hits you with the energy and then you are ready to exhale that energy in the direction you are facing in a line. It is also a visualization. Because you are focusing facing a direction, let's say North.....

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: right, you're sending the message north. You are exhaling along your line of breath, you're also sending that energy in that direction.

Russ: I see. Hence the difference in the amount of wait, how the energy is handled...

Omal: correct.

Russ: not the amount of energy as much as a how it's handled. Because you can lose a lot of energy if it's improperly handled, right?

Omal: correct.

Russ: like when I was the executive, I was receiving tons of energy....

Omal: but it was just going all over the place.

Russ: but it was disorganized, it wasn't being focused properly, it wasn't being channeled into a proper channel.

Omal: it was being channeled into a proper channel, it was not being used by the executive correctly.

Russ: ahhh.

Omal: it was just flowing out of you willy-nilly.

Russ: I see.

Omal: that's a good expression, willy-nilly.

Russ: willy-nilly. Don't tell Mark that one, okay?

Omal: why not?

Russ: he'll use it for my president or something like that.

Omal: ahhh.

Russ: okay....

Omal: wouldn't that be willy-Billy?

(Russ breaks out into laughter)

Russ: you have a grasp of politics Omal that's frightening.

Omal: if you insist. Hmm, where were we?

Russ: back to properly using the energy.

Omal: yes. It's a matter of being very stringent with the meta-concert and the energy.

Russ: right.

Omal: the more stringent you are with the energy, the longer you can continue the meta-concert.

Russ: okay. All right, now then, since we do have to work on other things tonight, I wonder if we could spend the next four sessions with yourself working on each section of the meta-concert?

Omal: yes, we will try to do so.

Russ: like next week we'll start with conductors since we were going to do that anyway.

Omal: correct.

Russ: they will go on to executive, primaries.....

Omal: well, hopefully believe we will be able to do a run through.

Russ: okay, great. We need to practice what you showed me tonight.

Omal: yes.

Russ: but essentially, what I want to do is start breaking this down into being able to handle each of the sections....

Omal: okay.

Russ: and this will help out Mark also since he listens to the tapes, he'll be able to work on it also.

Omal: okay. What you may also do is when you do your practice sessions......

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: to have one of these available.

Russ: kitty cats?

Omal: yes.

Russ: okay.

Omal: or both of them even.

Russ: they're usually here anyway.

Omal: to suck in when you're doing your practicing in your restroom........

Russ: right.

Omal: not your restroom, that means something different. Your relaxation and sleeping quarters.

Russ: hmm, okay. Now I wonder if you could go over real quickly the process of sucking in the cat's energy. I mean.....

Omal: just feel the energy that they transmit. Every living organism transmits energy.

Russ: right, but in someplace like the room where you had me focus on each section of the room, there's so many sources of energy......

Omal: uh-huh. Well, select a source. A living source is much better than that source over there, a mechanical source.

Russ: I see. Now, is the pyramid then living or mechanical?

Omal: it is both.

Russ: hmmm, there's a clue. Okay, now, with the cat's energy......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and it's coming off in the way that it does.......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: it's then able to just focus on that only and working with energy and then switch over using like the pyramid......

Omal: correct.

Russ: switching over then to use the crystal or something.

Omal: correct. When you do your practice, work with each energy one at a time and then we will progress from there.

Russ: okay. Excellent, thank you.

Omal: you're welcome.

Russ: that's all I have for now.

Omal: well......

Russ: like I said, we've got so much else going on.

Omal: heard any good jokes recently?

Russ: I knew you were going to ask me that. I don't have them here right now. Okay, we've got lots to work on then.

Omal: okay.

Russ: at least I do.

Omal: hmmm, let me see. I can understand why Korton has so much fun with felines. The affection that they generate.

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: unfortunately, I do not have time for one and to tell the truth, neither does Korton. I think it is more a luxury to help him relax.

Russ: I thought it was a learning experience.

Omal: learning experience as well but it also helps him to relax. Stroking the feline is very relaxing and very continuous. They generate energy that is relaxing. They also generate thank youness or gratuity.

Russ: yeah, they definitely are thankful for being scratched.

Omal: uh-huh. Take this one for example. Is she not going bananas?

Russ: oh yeah, loving it.

Omal: she has her eyes closed and has her tongue sticking out probably. Well, I must depart.

Russ: okay, thank you again Omal.

Omal: you're welcome.

Russ: we have lots of fun to do next week.

Omal: and I go off but I shall return.

Russ: all right, see you later.

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(Tia returns to bring on Kiri)



Russ: hi Tia. Using that breath technique that Omal showed me just now for sucking in energy.......

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: would that assist in farsighting also?

Tia: you can try it.

Russ: in other words, where usually I'm taking ten deep breaths before starting.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: but their only usual breaths like I did for the first one.

Tia: you could try that for that deep breaths, it might help.

Russ: what it is, I mean not just the deep breaths but the sucking in of energy.

Tia: uh-huh, you can try that.

Russ: okay.

Tia: oh well, right.

Russ: right.

Tia: well, I've got to hand over to the last two people.

Russ: okay. See you later love.

Tia: yeah.

Russ: bye-bye.

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(Kiri comes on right at the end of the session)


Russ: the thrillseeker.

Kiri: yo dude.

Russ: hi dudette.

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: okay. Now I was going over a tape that you were on back in March.....or August I should say.......

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and at that time you mentioned how coercion, we had talked about maintaining a positive.......

 

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