Unlimited Reality, Ghosts and Seeing Auras-

Channeled (01/04/1994)

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Archivist Notes: It was thirty years and about six months ago when I pushed the record button to begin this session. Up until now, Korton was a fairly regular speaker for the sessions but it had been a while since we had seen him at the start of this one. It would begin a trend where we would not hear from him as often and Omal would be the main guest speaker. One other note before beginning is that four things had happened that should be explained since they are a part of several conversations. The first is that Tia had overheard a conversation between Carrie and myself where I had denigrated cats as part of a demonstration I was doing. Tia called me out for the comment and justifiably so. Next, around the corner from our house at the time was a restaurant that held weekly trivia contests. Mark and I attended one and got into a fairly heated competition where we were both getting help from the base to get an advantage over the other individuals. The third bit of information to know is that at the time they had not explained the difference between fifth and sixth dimensions. I still thought fifth was where the base was and not sixth although it appears I knew that fifth was space. Lastly, a discussion in a couple chats was about the current name of the dolphin area. It would later become officially Dolphin Lake. Tia gets things started once our conversation regarding cats is resolved. She uses her feline ancestry though to answer a question about the nature of unlimited reality. She explains how it's a matter of being able to believe in everything from an individual series of possibilities and perceptions. It comes down to there is no single answer to explain everything with everything being possible. A related topic that comes up is one of her daughter's abilities to shape shift into a cat. It turns out it's similar to the method Mark used to make himself solid once he reached the base in his astral form. She makes way for Korton to join the channeling session and right away we find out from the head of communications for Ashtar Command how information is processed. It's fascinating knowledge and even more so to know that Tia had been a part of that prior to being reassigned. I then ask him about auras and what information may be useful. Little did I know that what I was getting as a result would be a dissertation on the process of death. It would actually be more about not accepting death and, instead of going into the light, one would be an echo that would repeat itself over and over that we know better as ghosts. We close out the side by his answering the question on what you would do if you were ascended but wanted to contact somebody on the third. He uses my good friend John as an example of how I was drawn in to attend my first channeling session. Korton amazingly repeats the same exact words John used to get me to go with him to that session in Sedona.

After a brief introduction from Tia, Karra takes over a speaker on side two where we celebrate our collaboration at the trivia contest and address something that happened before the channeling session. Tia was playing with one of our cats while in Mark's body but overexerted his muscles while getting too rough. Now Karra was assessing the damage. That doesn't take long and we're off to working on healing with auras. What comes down to we find out is changing a person's mood is where it begins and then bring up the energy. She reminds me of how that's how they did it when they were working with Carrie in healing her. Once we determine it would be a task for someone with the training to do it well. We go from her to Omal to get his perspective on auras and address it from the point of seeing auras. Seeing auras takes more than physical eyesight, it takes inner eyesight and seeing with the third eye. We go over the differences of auras from an old battlefield or a recent rock concert. Then from feeling auras he explains that seeing auras for the first time would cause a shock as would be the emotional states from the two different gatherings of auras. Thoughts of battle turn to a reminder of a past life when Mark had sacrificed his life for the men in his command. Omal saw that his selfish with other options that could have allowed him to maintain his life as a husband and a father. We finish up on the story I had heard about a UFO found emitting hard radiation. Omal's genius as a teacher leads me to finally answer myself. From him we move on to Kiri which inspires me to ask her more about the fifth dimension and in one sense it's the same as here in that you're always improving. It was agreed in the end that I should spend more time on the base so we work out ways to help make that happen. Lastly we go through a recap of the trivia contest that she was watching what was going on from the third person. Alana finishes up the night as we discuss the work I had been helping her with in the dolphin area. I had made a suggestion and they were actually trying to find ways to make a reality. It was to help Alana in her efforts in communicating with dolphins as she explained the translated carrier wave she was trying to create to ease the interchange. We learn first that dolphins see auras and second that the dolphins on Hades Base are native to the base. She tells us there was some interbreeding going on and in fact it was affecting one of the expecting dolphins. To fix the situation, they had planned to ask some dolphins on earth to join the part of the base. I would be part of that future effort but that would be on another channeling session. This rounded out session but what a session it was.
   
In love, light, and wisdom as one,
Russ and Karra
                                     

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TIA- Co-Ring Mistress
MARK CROCKER (Channel)
KORTON RUSS HATFIELD (Archivist)
KARRA
OMAL
KIRI
ALANA





SIDE 1

1.)(0:00)- Tia discusses the concept of unlimited reality where there is a belief that anything is possible for the individual through perception. She also explains how her daughter can shape shift into a cat.
2.)(16:31)- Korton describes how the communications within Ashtar Command is handled. After that, he gives a very good explanation of what happens when we die and the reasons for ghosts that may be seen.

SIDE 2

1.)(0:34)- Karra helps explain how healing of a person can sometimes be done using the aura. By changing their mood with humor or laughter, a lot of the healing is already started in certain situations.
2.)(11:40)- Omal continues with seeing auras started one side one as we discuss two types, auras from a battlefield and those from a rock concert. We next cover a UFO possibly found that used hard radiation.
3.)(24:37)- Kiri answers my questions about the fifth dimension as best she can while helping with my ability to reach the base. Down here, Mark and I had participated in a trivia contest from two dimensions.
4.)(31:43)- Alana has been working on improving the communication between her and the dolphins so I get a lesson. We discover dolphins see auras and work on a name for what would one day be Dolphin Lake.

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SIDE ONE


(Tia comes on as the traditional ring mistress)



Tia: what was this comment about cats?

Russ: oh yeah, I forgot about that.

Tia: hmm?

Russ: hmm, something about them being a lower life form. Somewhere lower on the food chain? Well they are.

Tia: the key to success is being at the top of your food chain.

Russ: right, that's us.

Tia: and what about cats? Do you eat cats?

Russ: no.

Tia: well they're on a different food chain, aren't they?

Russ: no.

Tia: do you eat mice?

Russ: we eat birds.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: cats eat birds.

Tia: but do you eat mice?

Russ: no. Cats will eat a hot dog, they'll eat cheese same as us. We're higher on the higher chain. People eat cats, cats don't eat people. That's not higher on the food chain.

Tia: what about tigers, hmm?

Russ: yes, but survival of the fittest. Who's getting more extinct, us or tigers?

Tia: what if you went one-on-one with a tiger?

Russ: well yeah, but the odds of that are pretty slim too. I have to admit though, cats do have more psychic gifts than most humans I've ever met.

Tia: uh-huh. And who has the farsighting feline, his cat? That one there.

Russ: beats me to Hades Base.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: well, well, well, besides, just making a demonstration, it wasn't for actual purposes.

Tia: you have to be careful.

Russ: why?

Tia: because you don't know who's listening, hmmm?

Russ: yeah, but the point of the matter is to make a demonstration, sometimes one has to exaggerate a little bit to make the point clear.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: Carrie does not have a dog, she has a cat.

Tia: yeah, come on, questions.

Russ: so how come cats aren't rulers of the world?

Tia: well if you slept for twenty hours a day, could you rule the world?

(Russ chuckles)

Tia: so what's it going to be? What's the questions?

Russ: would you please if you could........

Tia: yeah?

Russ: to define unlimited reality?

Tia: unlimited reality? Is when you understand and believe in everything. There's a good and a bad thing. Well that's my definition anyway.

Russ: what do you mean a good and a bad thing?

Tia: well if I told you I had a tail and pointed ears that were up here instead of down here.....

Russ: right.

Tia: and you believed me, but that's not true. I don't have a tail.

Russ: ahhh, but you could have a tail and pointed ears in another dimension, a parallel universe.

Tia: but that wouldn't be me.

Russ: how would you know?

Tia: that's the thing about unlimited reality.

Russ: on a parallel, third dimensional world, you got a tail and two ears on top.

Tia: I don't because I'm here.

Russ: right, but we're talking about belief.

Tia: that's why it is a good and a bad thing.

Russ: I see.

Tia: point made?

Russ: no, because I can't see the bad part to it.

Tia: well the bad part is that with an unlimited reality you have to believe everything.

Russ: well isn't that mostly the goal of most people?

Tia: hmm, no.

Russ: because you're always open to suggestions.

Tia: yes.

Russ: you're always open to different ideas. I mean......

Tia: but if I told you that the laws of gravity could go take a flying...........you know,

Russ: well they can with you.

Tia: yeah. But can you?

Russ: well I can't do that.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: and the fact that I can't merely means I'm not that evolved yet.

Tia: okay, now if I was to say , "okay, I'm going to change the laws of gravity so that you can jump very, very high and levitate and fly...."

Russ: right, so I'd believe it.

Tia: but it's not so.

Russ: yes it is so.

Tia: I can't change it.

Russ: yes you can. You can make me believe that I was able to do that.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: even though it would be you doing that, I would still believe that it was me doing it therefore I don't see the bad part then.

Tia: okay, here we go.

Russ: okay.

Tia: I'm changing the laws of gravity....

Russ: okay.

Tia: now stand up and fly away.

Russ: well I can't do that in third dimension.

Tia: exactly, that's the point. I can say it....

Russ: right.

Tia: but it's not so. We know what reality is. Unlimited reality says what might be, what isn't and what is.

Russ: okay, but let's do it this way.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: let's say you word it differently. Let's say that it is possible for me to change the laws of gravity and get up and fly away.......

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: okay? Now, I say, "I'm glad it's possible, let me work on it".

Tia: yeah, but the thing is with unlimited reality that it's now.

(Tia snaps Mark's fingers)

Tia: you can do it now, this second.

Russ: do it or you can believe it. I believe that I can change the laws of gravity here and now.........

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: if I practice enough at it.

Tia: but you don't.

Russ: but I don't practice.

Tia: no, you don't believe it.

Russ: no, I don't believe it.

Tia: exactly, that's the point.

Russ: but I could believe it.

Tia: but that's the thing about unlimited reality.

Russ: well, so in other words, there is no such thing as perfect truth. That there is a single truth to everything.

Tia: no, there's points of view.

Russ: I mean for me to say that there is fifth dimension is true.

Tia: uh-huh, correct.

Russ: for me to say that the laws of gravity can be thrown away on fifth dimension is true.

Tia: uh-huh. For example, here's a definition of a truth.

Russ: uh-huh.

Tia: describe to me what I'm wearing. You didn't fall for it, did you?

Russ: not a bit.

Tia: no. I was hoping you would say blue trousers, white shirt, writing on one arm and black socks. No, white socks.

Russ: right.

Tia: and I would've said, "no I'm not, I'm wearing a toga, nyyahh......" with a bikini bottom underneath.

Russ: now the fact is okay, so you say that......

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: and I say that and that's true.

Tia: yeah.

Russ: okay. But at the same time, I'm partially right.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: therefore there are partial truths.

Tia: correct. That's what I'm saying is, that everything is a point of view.

Russ: so in other words, we cannot ever know the truth......

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: and the fact that we don't have anything to base it on.

Tia: correct, it's what you perceive, it is all perception.

Russ: right. I mean, I can say this is the truth.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: and I might be right. But unless somebody is sitting there and telling me I'm right, all I'm doing is just guessing.

Tia: correct.

Russ: so therefore, unlimited reality is the ability to see everything as possible truths. That sounds right.

Tia: no, that's possibilities.

Russ: okay, possibilities.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: but if it's possible, then it's a truth.

Tia: no.

Russ: why, because it's working?

Tia: no, it doesn't become true until it happens.

Russ: okay, so unlimited reality is the belief that all things are possible.

Tia: yeah.

Russ: is that right?

Tia: uh-huh. All things are possible for you. It's a matter of possibilities and perception.

Russ: so believing that all things are not possible for you is not unlimited. Okay, I see what you mean. So even though they're not possible to me due to the fact that I lack either the psychic gifts or the.....

Tia: possibilities.

Russ: ability to do so....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: it's still a reality. Okay, next question.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: how does Minerva do it?

Tia: do what?

Russ: change to a little.....

Tia: I know, just teasing. She spins the illusion that she's a cat. She manipulates molecules around her to pad in the areas.

Russ: how does she make herself do the cat's ears?

Tia: by the same process. By collecting the moving molecules together, atoms and bits of debris and dirt and dust and fluff and so on, she manipulates it to form a furry area around her. There's plenty of cats around for her to look at and figure out how it works, what they should feel like.

Russ: so she's a manifestor.

Tia: hmm, no I wouldn't say she's great in the group. Omal can do a lot better.

Russ: at Omal's age, he's a great manifestor.

Tia: he's a fantastic manifestor.

Russ: right, but at Minerva's age, she's a great manifestor.

Tia: for her age, yes. Not as good as Alex because Alex does more than one thing.

Russ: he's older too.

Tia: you could say that Minerva is more of a shape shifter.

Russ: no.

Tia: well, she's only shape shifted into one animal.

Russ: that's true. I see. Now, do we know why she does it?

Tia: she likes cats. The fact that she is, or descended from felines, she has a great affinity with cats.

Russ: next question, farsighting.

Tia: the idea is to keep your eyes partly open and relax the muscles.

(The phone rings)

Tia: you want to answer that are are we going to leave it?

Russ: just leave it. Anyway, farsighting.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: I'm finding out that leaving is easy. For some reason, I'm getting out of myself.

Tia: the hardest things are easy and the easiest things are hard.

Russ: right. Now, silly me, thanks to Carrie gave me the idea for how to make it a bit easier and that was just leave. Don't worry about the preliminaries.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: all this fun stuff, just get up and go. Because the preliminaries put me into a deeper state....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: but that usually means sleep with my current schedule.

Tia: yeah, carry-on, I'm listening.

Russ: so, now the trick is if getting there is so easy......

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: is there a way to pull the rest of me through once I get there?

Tia: should be.

Russ: okay, could you assist me some?

Tia: hmm, I don't really know the feeling behind it because I can't do it. Besides, I don't need to.

Russ: flashy girl.

Tia: no, I just know what I'm doing.

Russ: what would be the way to find out how to get myself all the way there? It has been done, is there a theory behind this I can work on?

Tia: I can sit down and try to figure it out. Get Mark and Cypress and all sit down together and work it out.

Russ: for example, I was able to get up there to get Karra and Alana pregnant.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: after I was there, I pulled myself through farther to a point to where I got myself fairly solid enough to conceive.

Tia: yeah.

Russ: but I don't know how I did it except for the fact I was totally involved in the situation at hand.

Tia: concentration might be the thing.

Russ: right. Concentration on lock down.

Tia: well, what were you doing at the time that made you solid?

Russ: sex.

Tia: let's see if you can do it a third time.

Russ: okay.

Tia: okay, when are you going to come up for dinner?

Russ: dinner? That was your invitation so I'm leaving the date up to you.

Tia: okay.....

Russ: preferably on Tuesday night after channeling.

Tia: okay.

Russ: all right now, just to get this straight. Getting to your room, I have to go down the hall, around the pool, past the elevator to the dolphin pen.....

Tia: uh-huh. Dolphin pens, you say dolphin habitat.

Russ: habitat. That sounds like a hamster cage.

Tia: it does, doesn't it? Yeah, have to think of some better name. Dolphin pool sounds man-made.

Russ: dolphin space.

Tia: so you come down past......

Russ: down that hallway from there......

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: right? About.......hmmmm a hundred yards?

Tia: yeah, a little bit more actually. But don't forget, the door's been painted and it's the only green door in the whole entire corridor.

Russ: it's on the left, right?

Tia: uh-huh and it's been freshly painted and it's green.

Russ: okay darling, thank you for the fun and entertainment, the acrobatics and information.

Tia: the fun and games isn't over yet.

Russ: okay.

Tia: the fat lady hasn't sung but she's getting fatter.

(Tia says goodbye in Durondedunn






(Korton is our main speaker for side one)



Korton: greetings and felicitations Russell.

Russ: greetings. Excuse my lax attitude there, I was expecting somebody else.

Korton: and who were you expecting?

Russ: Karra.

Korton: okay, let us proceed with your questions and answers Russ.

Russ: okay. Korton, right?

Korton: correct.

Russ: just double checking. It's been a long time and I'm glad to hear from you finally.

Korton: thank you, I've been kept extremely busy with various duties.

Russ: oh. I'm sure they were very important for you to be kept busy by them.

Korton: just a matter of catching up on necessary communiqués.

Russ: okay, good. Speaking of communiqués, communication throughout Ashtar Command is handled by you.

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: but what exactly does that entail? Is that like a network kind of like what we have down here where we have computers linked up and everything?

Korton: yes, but it is more people linked up with computers that interact with each other and it is my job to make sure that they function correctly, they operate within the specified duties that they're given, censoring when necessary, communicating reports, communicating details and information on ship's manifests and so on.

Russ: well how does all the information come to you? I mean.......

Korton: it doesn't.

Russ: it doesn't. Okay, so you're not aware of all communications throughout Ashtar Command.

Korton: no.

Russ: I was going to say, it must be a huge task. Okay, now when you say people hooked up to computers.......

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: what exactly are you talking about?

Korton: we're not talking about cybernetics. We're talking about interacting and linked into the computers.

Russ: in other words so they have access to the computers......

Korton: yes, some have neural scanners to help them process the information.

Russ: oh.

Korton: and some just do it visually, some do it just audially.

Russ: so a neural scanner would handle information coming through in such quantities that it would just flash across the screen?

Korton: yes but it can be handled by the mind very easily. These people tend to be higher up in the organization.

Russ: all right. Now that would mean they're using vaster amounts of their brain than someone like myself.

Korton: correct. Tia used to help in this department.....

Russ: oh.

Korton: since she has been reassigned other duties.

Russ: oh, okay. That's pretty amazing.

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, thank you.

Korton: okay.

Russ: now, I wanted to find out real quick is I'm working right now on this evening concerning auras.

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: and I thought you might be able to help me with that as far as.....

Korton: you were actually hoping it would be Omal.

Russ: well, you know at this point, you and Omal work so closely together it doesn't matter who comes through. I get the information answered in......

Korton: well that is one of the duties of the communicator is to work closely with people.

Russ: ahh. Is Omal coming through?

Korton: yes, he is present.

Russ: okay great, I'll save something for Omal. Okay, now a lot of what I'm working on here is on brightness of auras and the colors combined with them.

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: and the question then is, are emotions what determine the brightness of auras and the colors of such?

Korton: hmm, colors yes, brightness is the amount of energy flowing within and without the individual.

Russ: okay, I see. So in other words, someone in the peak of health will have a brighter aura than someone on their deathbed.

Korton: correct.

Russ: but if they're both in the same emotion the color would be similar.

Korton: hmm, unless of course somebody is about to die and then there is different colors involved.

Russ: okay. Now if someone's about to die, at what point do they realize the fact that there is more to this dying stuff than just leaving the body?

Korton: some people never realize and others do. Some people are scared of death. Once you have accepted death, then you are on a road to enlightenment.

Russ: I see. Now what about for a fact that when you die and you don't accept death, do you have access then to information concerning your past lives and things like that?

Korton: it is, if you make that final step....

Russ: oh.

Korton: you can be trapped as a echo or you make the step over, go through the light as it were and then you understand and accept that you are dead.

Russ: okay.

Korton: then you start the reviewing process.

Russ: oh. Now, as you probably know, tomorrow I'm starting a class on farsighting and regression.......

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: in which my communication skills are going to be coming into great usage.

Korton: okay.

Russ: okay, now a lot of what I'm going to be discussing will be the points between death and life........

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: and that area between. Now I've always assumed that most people when they die realize that step and they go through and review their lives but I don't understand the question on echoes.

Korton: echoes? People trapped, not sure that they're dead or are dead but don't want to leave their friends.

Russ: okay.

Korton: and then after a while it becomes just habit and just hang around. And echoes can also be referred to as a.......

Russ: ghost?

Korton: yes. Something that repeats the same thing over and over again.

Russ: right, like there are armies that go marching across a battlefield time and time and time again......

Korton: correct.

Russ: like they were alive in this world. Now, how long will an echo last?

Korton: approximately on average, four hundred years. There are some that have lasted a lot longer.

Russ: after four hundred years they finally find the light I take it?

Korton: an echo will fade away. An event repeating itself time and time again.

Russ: but what happens to the person?

Korton: to the person......

Russ: who's caught in that echo.

Korton: hmmm, an echo or ghost that repeats the same thing is just an echo that fades away eventually.

Russ: oh, I see.

Korton: there are instances where they have lasted nine hundred years.

Russ: uh-huh.

Korton: but there are instances where it is a one-off.

Russ: okay.

Korton: but with a spirit, or spirit echo, it will vary. Normally, the lifetime of let's say an infant is born........

Russ: right.

Korton: and that person sees the infant for the first year of their life and wants to see them grow up, and they live a hundred years, then it is a hundred years.

Russ: oh, I see. So basically, they have a purpose they wish to fulfill....

Korton: yes.

Russ: and they stay for as long as that purpose takes to fulfill.

Korton: as long as they're aware that they have passed away. Normally when they are unaware....

Russ: uh-huh.

Korton: eventually they are helped.

Russ: oh, I see. Now I take it that's by the guides or.....

Korton: yes.

Russ: now is the shock of dying sometimes what causes this thing?

Korton: yes. A sudden instance. For example, let's say you're skiing.....

Russ: uh-huh.

Korton: and you get harpooned by a tree.

Russ: right.

Korton: kills you instantly.

Russ: right.

Korton: and you're pinned into the tree and you do not realize that you're dead. That you hit the tree, you bounced off off, you knocked yourself out, you get up and carry on skiing. You don't see your body.

Russ: right. For how long? I mean, are you going to be skiing for the next hundred years there?

Korton: you could be but hopefully you would realize soon enough that.....

Russ: I see, so hopefully a guide's going to come skiing up along you and go, "hey, see that big stain across that tree there?"

Korton: that's you.

Russ: that was you.

Korton: yes, sometimes it takes longer.

Russ: because a person might not believe what they're seeing.

Korton: yes, you may go skiing down to your lodge, that's the correct term?

Russ: yes.

Korton: and put your skis in your locker and then go wandering off to work and not notice it.

Russ: well you're going to notice there's nobody else around. You're the only one there.

Korton: no, there are people around.

Russ: oh, I see, you can't interact with them though.

Korton: well, how often do you interact with everybody?

Russ, really pretty much so since I work there.

Korton: yes, see you would notice pretty quickly.

Russ: right. Then I'd be going, "wait a minute". At that point the guides would come.

Korton: correct.

Russ: then I would go, "this is a person I can interact with and they'd be giving me information......."

Korton: yes.

Russ: and I would follow-up on their information and they would take me to wherever I had to go....

Korton: correct.

Russ: to review my next lives, or my past lives. I understand, I understand.

Korton: which feline?

Russ: oh, Mark's feline, Joey. Okay, Kiri was discussing with me the other day about moving on to fifth dimension is something that you choose to do.

Korton: uh-huh, correct.

Russ: and until you're ready to move on that it won't happen basically. But now can you define for me if going to fifth dimension is space and a workspace, what exactly is sixth dimension?

Korton: so in fact we can't disclose that information just yet. You have to learn about one at a time.

Russ: oh, I see. Okay, fair enough. I assume personal experience on fifth will be a prerequisite to that.

Korton: of course.

Russ: of course.

Korton: come on Joey, Joey. How do I get my cat to come?

(Korton tries calling Joey to come over to him)

Russ: how is your cat?

Korton: my cat is fine.

Russ: all right, more obedient I'm sure.

Korton: we communicate much easier.

Russ: I can imagine.

Korton: she's not quite sure who I am.

Russ: oh Joey, yeah.

Korton: yes, timid.

Russ: timid is a good word for him.

Korton: perhaps we ought to call in the expert on cats.

(Russ chuckles)

Russ: okay, now a person, before they move on to fifth, is that person going to wish to continue that karmic cycle generally?

Korton: hmmm, once you make the transition to fifth you are a new karmic cycle.

Russ: oh, you are? Now by a new karmic cycle, that entails the fact that you can now help those people on third dimension that you wanted to help before possibly.

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: okay. And exactly how easy is it then to interact with people on third dimension that you wish to work with?

Korton: there are several ways to do it.

Russ: okay.

Korton: one is, the channeler.

Russ: channeling, right.

Korton: the other way is by being a skilled farsighter and nudging and helping.

Russ: oh, I see.

Korton: a little bit like being a spirit or becoming closely interactive with somebody and whispering in their ear. Again, like a spirit.

Russ: right. Okay, at that point, can you see the guides of a person also?

Korton: yes.

Russ: I see, so you can interact with their guides.

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: ahhhhh.

Korton: that is the thought they use also is by getting the guides to help.

Russ: I see. Okay, so whereby you might not be a person's guide, you can at least assist in their development.

Korton: correct.

Russ: okay, I get it. Now is this some other phase of communication then?

Korton: yes. You have to be a reasonably good communicator and a farsighter to do so.

Russ: ahh, I see, I'm practicing both. Could come in handy for later on in my career life.

Korton: yes.

Russ: okay. So essentially, though you're on third dimension and let's say you are teaching....

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: and you wish to continue that on fifth dimension but you wish to continue it on third, that's how you would do it.

Korton: correct.

Russ: through communication with the person needing to be worked on.

Korton: correct.

Russ: okay, because I was discussing this with Carrie and how I describe the fact that well, she conceivably might move up to fifth dimension.

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: and if that were true then she said that she rather stay on third with Mike.

Korton: that is very noble of her.

Russ: right. But then I mentioned the example of my life with Karra.

Korton: yes. Yes, I was waiting for you to bring that up.

Russ: and I said, "look at the incentive I'm getting from her and the changes I've made in my life because of it ". The problem comes in with the fact that I was in a unique position to have Karra be able to be channeled.

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: which is amazingly enough something that most people wouldn't have available to them. Have their soulmate channeled?

Korton: yes.

Russ: so, how would somebody find a way to make that known to the person here on third that their soulmate is waiting for them on fifth?

Korton: gentle nudges. How was it brought up to you?

Russ: Mark said, "hey, Kiri's got a sister that has the hots for you".

Korton: is that how it was worded?

Russ: that was pretty much how it was worded, yes. Or wants to meet you, that's how it was.

Korton: it was held out as bait.

Russ: right, yeah. And it was like, "oh, okay".

Korton: but the same applies also to other people. Let me come up with an analogy.

Russ: okay.

Korton: I'm a third dimensional person, I say to a friend of mine, "you want to come to a channeling session?"

Russ: hmmm.

Korton: "you really ought to come, it should be real fun. You will enjoy it, it's nice. You might learn something interesting.

Russ: I see. But now how come then at this point, I was never introduced to Karra way back in Sedona?

Korton: because the time wasn't right.

Russ: ahhhh, I see. She had access but I was not of that particular style where I wouldn't even understood what farsighting was much less....

Korton: correct and also she was a very busy lady at the time. She did watch and she did view.....

Russ: oh she did?

Korton: but she was very busy.

Russ: so she got a few chuckles. I remember a few of our conversations from back then. Quite a few funny ones I mean like swan, here swan, come on swan.

(One of the forms Omal would try to have me manifest into solidity from nothing but atoms and dust)

Korton: yes.

Russ: Omal trying to get me to come up with a swan. That was great.

Korton: coaching.

Russ: coaching, yes. Okay.....

Korton: okay, last question please?

Russ: last question is............well let's just call it that one.

Korton: okay.

Russ: that's good enough. I'll go with Omal for the rest of the side.

Korton: okay. Well thank you for.....


            
SIDE ONE ENDS




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SIDE TWO


(Tia jumps in real quick until Karra can take her place)


Russ: okay, that's all I got for now darling.

Tia: ohh, skis.

Russ: yeah, skis.

Tia: longer than mine.





(Karra starts the chat recalling a recent trivia game)



Russ: Karra..........yeah, all right!!!!! Hi darling.

Karra: hey.

Russ: hey.

Karra: how's it going?

Russ: well you're not saying much so I must be doing pretty good.

Karra: sorry? Oh, an attempt at humor.

Russ: small attempt.

Karra: yes. Okay.

Russ: how are you tonight energy wise?

Karra: puzzles.

Russ: puzzles, thank you.

Karra: and what is Librium?

Russ: oh yes, a derivative of opium, cocaine. I know, this after not listening to you. That's all right.

Karra: they have ears but he cannot listen.

Russ: got number one on the board thanks to that tonsil question.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: yes. You're wonderful. Nice having a doctor in the house. Doctor's in my head.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: how is the farsit.........this is crucial, how is the farsighting?

Karra: you're getting better.

Russ: okay. So forgetting the preliminaries......

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: is the key at this point. Dump those things so I don't go crashing out on you......

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: and just get my ass.......excuse me, butt, gluteus maximus.....

Karra: thank you.

Russ: my pleasure..........up there.

Karra: your derrière?

Russ: derrière, yes.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: and then pulling myself through from that point. So, with my busy schedule now.......

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: this farsighting method should work out a little better for our getting me up there.

Karra: uh-huh, yeah. I've got to talk to the young lady of Mark's. She's ripped a muscle.

Must: that's not good news.

Karra: no.

Russ: want the crystal scalpel?

Karra: no, just gonna put this on. See what we come up with.

Russ: we're supposed to go skiing tomorrow.

Karra: that's why I put that on there.

Russ: okay.

Karra: we'll see.

Russ: if you need help tell me, I'm right here to do the other side of that if I have to.

Karra: okay. Just cross his stomach area. Might be just stretched. In fact it looks more like a stretch than a rip.

Russ: that's good.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: ahhh geez, she's going to get a spanking tonight.

Karra: I doubt if he'll find out until he gets back.

Russ: he won't be happy. All right, healing with auras.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, now we're going to do two types of healing questions here.

Karra: okay.

Russ: number one, healing with auras is the fact that changing a person's aura color....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: can affect the healing of their body.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: so, changing of the person's aura from a darker shade to a lighter shade through humor......

Karra: uh-huh. You use for healing the aura, right?

Russ: right.

Karra: which heals the body in turn, is that you have to bring up the energy level so it becomes brighter, the colors become clearer. You can't change the colors and you can't fix the actual physical ailment.....

Russ: ohhhh, without the energy to correspond to it, right?

Karra: correct.

Russ: so I can change the colors but that's not gonna do me any good unless I get the energy to correspond.

Karra: correct.

Russ: I'm glad I'm talking to you about it now then. How do I get energies up?

Karra: humor, laughter, excitement, fun.

Russ: I see. Okay, so that's why a bedside manner is so important.

Karra: yes.

Russ: that's why Korton isn't going around to the different healing rooms I take it?

Karra: Korton never goes around to the healing rooms.

Russ: I mean Kornas.

Karra: yes. He may be head geneticists but is not the head doctor. The head doctor reports to him.

Russ: right, you are.

Karra: I'm not head doctor.

Russ: you're not the head doctor?

Karra: no.

Russ: with your bedside manner?

Karra: I'm the head nurse.

Russ: who's the head doctor?

Karra: oh, a friend of mine.

Russ: oh. Well, I have to admit, you have an awesome bedside manner.

Karra: well, it comes with practice.

Russ: oh, so the head doctor's got a big sense of humor.

Karra: yes, a twisted sense of humor.

Russ: ahh, even better then.

Karra: uh-huh, yes. Took me three weeks on one occasion to get my underwear back from him. There was no sex involved....

Russ: I can imagine not.

Karra: just I was bending over talking to a patient and he.....

Russ: he debagged you?

Karra: yes, he debagged me.

Russ: all right.

Karra: tried to take my bra as well but I was too quick for him.

Russ: that's good. Well I can see now what you're talking about then.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: you bring the energy up along with the color.

Karra: yes.

Russ: energy color change.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: now can you do this energy color change also with music?

Karra: yes.

Russ: I see. So finding some of their favorite music would also help?

Karra: that's why we have.....

Russ: music to heal by.

Karra: yes. And that's why Carrie was asked to make her choice.

Russ: I see, you brought up the energy when her favorite song came on and also changed her aura.

Karra: uh-huh. Just made it brighter.

Russ: I see.

Karra: okay.

Russ: now, when your person is upset, they've got a lot of energy but the wrong color. And if you soothe them, the energy will go down but the color won't be right. That doesn't work though then.

Karra: then you have to change their mood.

Russ: yeah, how do you keep the energy levels up by changing the mood? Same way you're talking about?

Karra: correct. For example, let's say you're sitting with somebody that's very depressed.

Russ: right.

Karra: and they're feeling blue.

Russ: let's say they're angry so there's a lot of energy.

Karra: depressed and angry?

Russ: yeah.

Karra: no, let's take the hardest one.

Russ: okay.

Karra: okay? What do is you sit them down.....

Russ: right.

Karra: and start talking to them. Calm them down or bring them up saying, "yeah, things aren't all that bad". Remember how we dealt with Carrie on the phone?

Russ: yeah right, I remember.

Karra: we brought her up and after talking to us she felt better and we could start to work on her.

Russ: ahh, I see. So her energy levels were down.....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: you brought it up.

Karra: that's the first rule, we bring the mood up, right?

Russ: right.

Karra: and then we bring the energy up.

Russ: I see, I see.

Karra: you can't change the mood and bring the energy up at the same time. You've got to do one and then go to the other one. And it's always best to go to the mood first and then bring the energy up.

Russ: oh, okay. Because if you bring the energy up, that could throw them into a negative energy.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: I see. So that's why my talking to her helped out with her mood.

Karra: yeah.

Russ: and then you guys did a meta-concert after that.

Karra: yeah, we had to get the mood to change first and then bring up the energy.

Russ: I see. So that's why working with Kiri and the style that you two guys bring...

Karra: that's right.

Russ: you change the mood, she brings the energy up.

Karra: uh-huh. Okay now, tell Carrie that we can schedule her for the second week after (something).....okay? And whenever it's convenient for her and the channeler. And what we'll do is, we'll do it from my room.

Russ: oh, okay.

Karra: okay? See if I get it done from my room. Get a changeover to occur.

Verse: oh, okay, good.

Karra: and that way I'll have privacy.

Russ: okay, works for me.

Karra: works for me too.

Russ: okay darling, we're set. The only thing I can think of is.......oh yeah, can you use your astral body to transfer energy that is like that of a conductor.

Karra: yes, but you've always got to leave yourself some energy.

Russ: okay. For example for me, if I was gonna work on Mark....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: right now at this very instant, could I use part of my energy.....

Karra: no.

Russ: no.

Karra: not on this injury.

Russ: okay. I mean, what kind of injury could I work with?

Karra: mainly injuries of the personality.

Russ: I see. Like psychic stuff?

Karra: not psychic but more a little bit somebody who's been an alcoholic.

Russ: oh great.

Karra: I believe you know a young lady who's been accused of that?

Russ: yes, okay.

Karra: and what you would do, is you would give moral support and you would lead off because alcohol depresses the energy, correct?

Russ: right.

Karra: so what you do is that you use some of your energy to augment it. And whilst you're doing that, you use a little bit of coercion but that only holds for a little while and then you start them on the road to recovery.

Russ: I see.

Karra: but first of all they've got to accept their problem.

Russ: I see. So it's a complicated process.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: I love you darling.

Karra: okay, I love you too.

Russ: take care of yourself and be very well.

Karra: okay, I will do so.

Russ: and I'll keep traveling up there lots and lots more often.

Karra: okay.

Russ: I'll see you in a little while.

Karra: okay.





(Omal is the main speaker for side two)


Omal: greetings Russ.

Russ: greetings Omal.

Omal: and how we functioning?

Russ: oh, I'm functioning great. It's been an interesting night.

Omal: okay, let us proceed.

Russ: how's the energy levels on Mark right now?

Omal: very good.

Russ: oh good, that's encouraging. I'm afraid I'm going to run out of tape before he runs out of energy so I'm going to have to get another one.

Omal: okay, let us proceed.

Russ: okay. Now we started off with Korton concerning auras.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and we only got into the first part of that before we got into more detailed stuff. Mind if I get into the rest of that with you?

Omal: okay.

Russ: okay. Now, speaking on auras, a person's auras can be seen by our inner eye....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: right? Even though our outer eye doesn't acknowledge the fact that we're seeing an aura.....

Omal: correct.

Russ: our inner eye is registering what that aura is doing on the other person.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, how can we bring the two together?

Omal: by realizing that you do use your inner eye and then by connecting the both or all three eyes.

Russ: all three eyes?

Omar yes.

Russ: you mean inner, outer and..............oh. Okay, I see. So you'll be able to find it easier that way.

Omal: yes.

Russ: okay. Now, what affect is seeing somebody else's aura have on us as far as......

Omal: the first time?

Russ: yes.

Omal: shock.

Russ: okay. Now does that affect our auras?

Omal: yes.

Russ: do our auras work in sympathy into those other auras?

Omal: no. When you see it for the first time your aura will register shock.

Russ: oh, I see. Okay. So it's a carefully trained eye.......

Omal: yes, uh-huh. However, when you see a dark aura....

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: then that does affect your aura. The same as a very strong, bright aura will also affect yours.

Russ: I see, okay.

Omal: the same way you are affected by Tia's.

Russ: oh, okay. Now one thing I'm really interested in learning about is two very opposite areas of aura concentrations. Number one is in a war or a battlefield.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: in which you have a vast array of violent auras that would affect all in in an entire area.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and basically is it like a battle madness that then could take over type of thing?

Omal: yes.

Russ: from all these auras interacting.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: I see. And the opposite of that is rock concerts or any kind of concerts.

Omal: well they're all very high energy auras.

Russ: right. But now, why would we choose one over the other besides what they have in common course?

Omal: because they have different functions. They are interrelated to your present emotional state.

Russ: I see. But to be in a war, you have to want to be involved in that type of war or battle lets call it.

Omal: no, it is an emotion.

Russ: oh it is?

Omal: yes.

Russ: oh.

Omal: to be in a battle, you have to be in an emotional state......

Russ: right.

Omal: and your aura reflects that.

Russ: hmm.

Omal: it reflects the fact that you're scared.....

Russ: right.

Omal: it reflects the fact that you don't like the other person very much.

Russ: yep.

Omal: it doesn't necessarily mean that your bad person.

Russ: right. You're only doing what you've been told basically.

Omal: no.

Russ: no?

Omal: you're doing what is necessary.

Russ: oh.

Omal: because in warfare, it is a learning experience. It is also for survival. If I come up to you with a gun with intent to kill you, what are you going to do? Are you going to just stand there and let me kill you?

Russ: yeah. Well I mean that's just me personally. I mean I know what you're talking about, most people wouldn't.

Omal: no, everybody wouldn't.

Russ: so yeah, it's an idealist type of thing to say you wouldn't but......

Omal: correct.

Russ: in reality I would probably go for your throat.

Omal: exactly but that would never occur.

Russ: right, yeah, of course.

Omal: but what I'm saying is, using one of Korton's analogies in a third dimensional sense.

Russ: right. But now, isn't allowing yourself to be killed sort of a step to fifth dimension?

Omal: sometimes yes, sometimes no.

Russ: look at the Messiah, eh?

Omal: well, I said sometimes yes, sometimes no.

Russ: right. So it's not a golden rule then?

Omal: no.

Russ: letting yourself be killed is not sometimes the best thing.

Omal: sometimes it is very selfish.

Russ: oh really?

Omal: yes. Supposing you have a responsibility to your family.

Russ: right.

Omal: your charming wife and your three children and your mistress.

Russ: yeah.

(Russ chuckles)

Omal: and you decide that you want to be killed.

Russ: right.

Omal: all of you live in the third dimension.....

Russ: right.

Omal: but you're going to save the lives of your men by sacrificing yourself.

Russ: right.

Omal: but the thing is, that not only are you letting down your men, you're letting down your family. Because it is your duty to come back and carry on looking after your family.

Russ: I see.

Omal: it is also the duty of you to look after your men.

Russ: but what about what Mark did in that past life?

Omal: that was selfish.

Russ: oh, I see.

Omal: because he could've gone another way. Negotiated, rattled his saber, become a partisan and lived in the hills.

Russ: oh, I see what you mean. And he chose a martyrdom.

Omal: uh-huh, which is bad.

Russ: which is bad, right.

Omal: sometimes.

Russ: yeah, because we don't know the outcome afterwards, it's hard to judge one way or another. Okay. So, I see what you mean. So it's a learning experience essentially.

Omal: correct.

Russ: okay. And then you place yourself in things like concerts like I do.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: for the learning experience of all those with an opposite energy.

Omal: correct.

Russ: beautiful auras and energy that's going through people.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: I see. And this is also learning experience.

Omal: correct.

Russ: ohhh. Now, is one more important than the other?

Omal: no.

Russ: they both have a similar importance.

Omal: correct. They are both there to learn from.

Russ: right. So even though I can detest war and to be totally abhorrent to myself to ever have to be in one......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: if I had to be in one, I could look at it as a lesson to have to be learned.

Omal: correct.

Russ: I understand.

Omal: but if your country went to war.........

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: would you go to war?

Russ: not if I can help it.

Omal: what about as a medic? You don't have to kill anybody.

Russ: I don't have any medical skills down here that.....

Omal: what about as a stretcher bearer?

Russ: ahh, well.......

Omal: going up to the front line and bringing the wounded back. You don't carry a rifle.....

Russ: true.

Omal: you don't carry any weapons.....

Russ: sure.

Omal: you're in just as much danger.

Russ: right. And you're still serving, I see what your point is. You're learning also at that point.

Omal: correct.

Russ: could this be all those extra years you've got on me that helping out?

Omal: thank you. Let us proceed with the next question. We have two more young ladies waiting.

Russ: all right. First off, does everyone we meet and relate to have a past life with us or could we meet people for the first time?

Omal: you can meet people for the first time, you can meet people for the hundredth time.

Russ: oh, I see. What would be the purpose of meeting for the first time? Just for the learning experience they get from us?

Omal: yes and vice versa.

Russ: how do they even know to look for us to find us?

Omal: it happens.

Russ: oh, so is it destiny or is it luck?

Omal: a little bit of both actually.

Russ: okay. I can go with that. Now Mark and I saw a show tonight about a UFO that used hard radiation.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: I don't know if you guys were monitoring that or not but it was about a Vicki and Betty Case back in 1980 from Texas.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: in which they saw a UFO stopped over them and they had severe radiation sickness afterwards.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: shortly after the UFO left from where they were at, twenty-three big, Army Chinook helicopters came cruising through.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: now my theory is on this, and I wonder.......I don't know if you can confirm it or not, whether or not this was a ship that our government used its own power supply for it to get it up off the ground.

Omal: what do you think?

Russ: well that's what I don't know. I mean I've seen a lot of weird stuff since I've been working with Nazreal and from all I know, one of these daffy races up there is using some primitive ship with hard radiation coming out of it.

Omal: well, you know what our answer is.

Russ: I know what your answer is of course.

Omal: but you can try.

Russ: but I can try. Why would anybody do such a draft thing as to use hard radiation to get around in.
Because we do use hard radiation to get around in because we're third dimensional.Ahhhhhh, of course.

Omal: I could say so much without saying anything.

Russ: third dimensional. Don't mind me, I've only been here for thirty-three years in this lifetime.

Omal: nearly thirty-four.

Russ:
nearly thirty-four. That's all it got.

Omal: okay, we better hand over to the ring mistress who will then decide who goes next. Have an enjoyable evening Russ.

Russ: you too Omal.

Omal: Omal to Enterprise, one to beam up.

Russ: no kidding.

Omal: I'll be back.




(Tia transitions to Karra's sister)


Russ: hi Tia.

(Tia says hi in Durondedunn)

Tia: where did she go?

Russ: she's right there in front of you.

Tia: quiet down, quiet down. I'm sorry.





(Kiri helps with understanding the fifth dimension)


Russ: hi Kiri.

Kiri: yo.

Russ: how are you doing?

Kiri: oh not too bad, not too bad.

Russ: that's good to know.

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: how is your son of wonderfulness doing?

Kiri: oh not too bad, not too bad at all.

Russ: good, so what's up?

Kiri: clouds, water vapor, stars, little teeny, weenie, little particles of dust, rabbits with big, pointed, sharp teeth.

Russ: alrighty. Now, we were talking about fifth dimension last week.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and been working on more things about fifth dimension.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and, as you're the resident expert about discussing the fifth dimension, if you could tell me a little bit more about it possibly? First off, traveling into the fifth dimension from the third dimension......

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: you have to pass through the fourth. Now......

Kiri: presumably.

Russ: presumably, right. In doing so, do you affect your time far as once you travel from one place to another?

Kiri: you're asking the wrong person. You know who you should ask is....

Russ: Tia.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: well just fifth dimension is such a tough concept to come across.

Kiri: Tia says kind of. It's hard to hear what she's saying as she's on the other side of Alana.

Russ: oh, okay. Now is understanding the principles behind fifth dimension essential for getting there?

Kiri: not essential but it's a big, big help.

Russ: okay. So it's basically being able to live up to your own standards.....

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and to set higher ones?

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: okay. So basically you're going to be working at improving at all times.

Kiri: of course, you've got to improve. You've got to be the best that you can be.

Russ: right. And what about if all of a sudden you die and you came real close to getting to your goal.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: would you then decide then that you're going to go ahead and......?

Kiri: I can't answer that because what I decide and what you decide and Mark might decide or that cat there or that cat would be totally different.

Russ: okay. As you can see, I'm not really too sure about fifth dimension in some points.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: even though you can visit it, it's still sort of a foreign country to me.

Kiri: that's one thing about travelers, the more that you go there the less foreign it becomes. Think about that.

Russ: I'll work with that. Well I'm practicing on getting up there more.

Kiri: okay.

Russ: so the trick would be then on finding something to concentrate on......

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: skiing would be a good thing.

Kiri: okay, well we'll go skiing.

Russ: good.

Kiri: give me a call and whenever I'm available I'll be there.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: and Tia is suggesting that you come over sometime and learn how to get milk.

Russ: all right. So how come you didn't help out in that game tonight?

Kiri: which game?

Russ: the trivia one.

Kiri: ohh. Well, I didn't want to upset either party. After all, big sis....she's big sis and Tia I love and adore.

Russ: so you don't play favorites?

Kiri: that's right.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: and if I played favorites with either you or Mark......

Russ: right.

Kiri: same problem.

Russ: so what exactly is going on while we're doing this game up there?

Kiri: it's one of the times we all.....all of us get together and fortunately in our apartment we have two computers terminals.

Russ: that's handy.

Kiri: yeah, we don't count Luna's.

Russ: right.

Kiri: so, we bring them out, we put them into the plug, plug them in side-by-side, monitors that are put up.

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: then I sit and watch to see who's the quickest on a keyboard and big sis has that edge.

(Russ laughs)

Russ: she is the best.

Kiri: yes.

Russ: she's pretty quick.

Kiri: it's those nice, long fingers of hers and Tia has a little bit of difficulty with her little, tiny, dainty fingers.

Russ: but tonight was definitely a premier night.

Kiri: yes, you guys were going at it pretty good.

Russ: we were. There were just some parts that luckily was asked for questions that I had more access to or at least Karra had more access to....

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: than Mark and Tia did.

Kiri: and Tia was a little bit slower on the answers.

Russ: that's funny though.

Kiri: and she does wait until Mark asks.

Russ: oh.

Kiri: yeah. Because Karra goes straight away. Tia goes, "you going to ask me?"

Russ: now where are all the kids during all this fun stuff?

Kiri: tonight they were asleep apart from Klarra and Alex who were playing.

Russ: oh, I see.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: they weren't watching the whole time?

Kiri: no. I think Alex was showing off to Klarra. Well, I'm gonna hand over to the last person.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: well actually second from last person.

Russ: oh, okay. Thank you very much, you've been most helpful.





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Russ: hello Alana.

Alana: hey Russ.

Russ: how's it going darling?

Alana: ohh, fine.

Russ: well that's good. Glad I got to see you this morning finally.

Alana: yeah.

Russ: I'm gonna work on that as a daily thing now.

Alana: oh.

Russ: uh-huh. You and I are gonna work so much now that I'm feeling I could just break free and just go for it.

Alana: uh-huh.

Russ: head on up there and.....

Alana: what do you want to do when you're there?

Russ: seeing the dolphins work.

Alana: ohhh, fins and flippers.

Russ: fins and flippers, yeah, there we go.

Alana: I had a message relayed to me about moving my furniture into the swimming pool?

Russ: oh yes, correct.

Alana: who's idea was that?

Russ: Mark's.

Alana: I'll have to give him some aggravation.

Russ: now I was really grateful working with you today.

Alana: uh-huh.

Russ: I was watching that today and it was incredible stuff. How was that idea I came up with?

Alana: working on it, working on it. It was definitely not in the right direction but it's turned 45° only. Now it's a matter of bending it at the top so it goes back to the goal.

Russ: I see. Because I noticed that the conversation that they were having was much better from underwater..........

Alana: uh-huh.

Russ: then it was from out of the water.

Alana: yeah, designing that carrier wave is..........excuse me for a second.

Russ: sure.

Alana: okay.

Russ: okay. Now, how were they communicating underwater? Are they using sound waves through water then?

Alana: uh-huh, yes.

Russ: I see. Now are they able to translate in their brain and send it through that way?

Alana: well it's just trying to get what you hear, how you hear.

Russ: oh I see.

Alana: to understand it I need to know a little bit about priorities and how the mind works.

Russ: hmmm.

Alana: so it's a matter of making a translated carrier wave.

Russ: oh, I see. So actually you're working on the human brain.

Alana: well, actually I'm working on both.

Russ: oh.

Alana: uh-huh. See, we're looking for root common between both brains.

Russ: oh. Now are their brains separated into three sections like ours are?

Alana: uh-huh.

Russ: well that's one of the similarities then anyway.

Alana: uh-huh.

Russ: do they have left and right brain functions like we do?

Alana: yes.

Russ: I see. So their sight center is correspondent to ours.

Alana: no, it's in a slightly different place.

Russ: how is it different?

Alana: it differs on two factors. One is that it's slightly smaller and the fact is that there are slightly fewer connections.

Russ: does that make it simpler then?

Alana: yeah, a little bit.

Russ: oh, I see. Now, have you done any studies with whales?

Alana: no, not yet.

Russ: okay.

Alana: to do that, I would have to go off somewhere else.

Russ: oh I see. Now are there whales in fifth dimension?

Alana: I don't know. I've never had the opportunity to work with those. I know what they are, I've seen pictures of them but never seen them in person.

Russ: with the dolphin though......

Alana: these here are native to Hades Base.

Russ: oh they are?

Alana: yeah. They were born and raised here.

Russ: so what's up? How are you doing with the pregnancy?

Alana: feeling all bloated and swollen and full of water, yeah.

Russ: right. Now are the dolphins aware of your pregnancy?

Alana: uh-huh.

Russ: ahhh, good. They probably are psychic in that degree then.

Alana: uh-huh, well I told them as well.

Russ: but they can see auras?

Alana: yeah. I told them that they're going to have a little flipper in the swimming pool with them.

Russ: flipper, I like that. Okay, now we were discussing with Omal the question of inner and outer eyes to see auras.

Alana: uh-huh.

Russ: do they see auras like cats do?

Alana: yeah.

Russ: they do. So they can read your aura when you walk into the pool.

Alana: uh-huh. And one of them is also expecting too.

Russ: oh really?

Alana: yeah.

Russ: excellent.

Alana: uh-huh.

Russ: okay. And what's a good name for that?

Alana: for what? Oh, hmmmm.

Russ: I need pen doesn't work, the dolphin pool doesn't work, what about the dolphin compound?

Alana: it makes it sound like they're prisoners.

Russ: well there's the Wookie compound, they're not prisoners.

Alana: hmm, true. Dolphin area? Dolphin house.

Russ: dolphin house.

Alana: the dolphin apartments.

Russ: dolphin condos.

Alana: dolphin high-rise condos. Actually, we'll be moving them to a new area soon.

Russ: you are?

Alana: uh-huh.

Russ: to what?

Alana: much bigger. Well it's an area that's under construction at the moment......

Russ: oh.

Alana: so it hasn't been decided yet.

Russ: you'll have to show me where it's at.

Alana: I'm lobbying very heavily for it and so are a number of other people.

Russ: well I'll be included I'm sure.

Alana: yeah.

Russ: what will happen to the old dolphin area?

Alana: will use it as a Hydro....well actually for growing fish for food.

Russ: oh.

Alana: because we want to increase the population for a healthy gene pool. Because there's a lot of interbreeding going on....

Russ: oh.

Alana: and Nyssa's little one I'm getting a little bit concerned about.

Russ: interbreeding?

Alana: yeah.

Russ: wow, this is interesting. I forgot about all about the genetics of dolphins.

Alana: uh-huh.

Russ: ahh.

Alana: so we're going to be bringing........


 
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