Collective Consciousness As A God-

Channeled  (03/24/1994)

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Archivist Notes: June's channeling session comes with a few notes to explain some things that came up but may not have been on the tape before moving onto the main summary. First off, we are honored by the presence of some of the main leadership of Ashtar command in the form of Ashtar himself along with the head of communications, Korton who starts things off by going over some recent research I been doing on a higher dimensional group of individuals working with some third dimensional individuals to both open a vortex over sunken Atlantis and build a pyramid to connect up to it in southern Colorado. The bulk of the conversations on the first half the tape are in regards to how likely it was to be constructed and what the effects would be if they were successful. The real world problems that could occur were their main concern due to possibly ignoring the multidimensional laws of physics. What supposedly was being built was an inter-dimensional defense shield and portal. Next to speak is Ashtar who explains he is worried about a higher dimensional being taking a direct hand in mankind's development. He contrasts the differences in how the Command is against telling us what to do as opposed to the group being discussed. Korton follows up Ashtar again and a name comes up of Raya who was a friend of mine from Sedona helping with the surveillance of the group's activities in Colorado. Another note from his time speaking was that Karra would eventually have twins as he predicted. Omal's extra notes are only about Karra and Tia needing to be careful while the main speakers were on because they were pregnant and the energies in the room were intense. Then of course is the reminder that he is the commander of the base even though it doesn't seem that way sometimes. Karra ends the side with only a single note and that was that Carrie's planned healing down here was one of many such sessions. Side two has Karra returning and the note not spoken was where she discusses an apology I need to make to Tia. It is for a past life regression I did on her through Mark's body and  during it, she discovered things in her past that made her rethink her history from a life she didn't expect. Kiri's next with a lesson on coercion and there's a stipulation that it is used to help people in need. It should never be used for personal gain as the karma is increased negatively. Luna joins the girls and the only note from her channeling is that the disaster she discusses in Earth's history was where the pole shifted and an inhabited earth was flooded as recorded in the Bible. Finally Tia closes out the session and the person she speaks of who had never been pregnant before is the other female Durondedunn scientist on the base. Finally we hear that Karra has planned an ambush of Mark to get him healed before he left the base to come back to the third dimension.

Back when these channeling sessions were taking place, we could always tell we were in for a heavy session if it was Korton who got things started. That's whose voice is heard as we get going and the heaviness starts right away. A book I had started to research initiated some concerns from the Command due to it documenting a group of higher dimensional beings helping some folks here on earth open a portal over Atlantis that would then connect to a pyramid being built in southern Colorado to some very demanding specifications. It was the plan to stabilize the earth axis as well as create an interdimensional portal or Temple that had them worried. We go over the various design flaws he was seeing as I described the construction details he already knew and pointed out everything being done was from a third dimensional standpoint, not a higher dimensional one. He steps aside temporarily to let our main guest speaker pick up the subject from there. Ashtar is the perfect person to speak on this matter and he echoes the concerns of Korton. What he objects to most is the third dimensional individuals helping these higher dimensional beings who were telling them what to do, being directly manipulated to take actions that could have negative consequences. What he finishes on his his opinion that the Dalai Lama would be very welcome on a higher dimension because he is not a pacifist. He does not preach do not cause harm because struggle is necessary for the lessons it brings. Next is Omal who provides his take on the matter and give us some advice on a surveillance assignment to keep an eye on things in southern Colorado. He also has some words of caution about the possibility of Mark regaining his mental powers from his past lives and thus I should be careful with any past life regressions. We end the side with Karra who just has enough time to confirm she's pregnant with our eventual twins after some anxious times we had had hoping for it to be true.

Side two gets going from where side one left off but with Karra on a whole different subject of the children of Mark and myself and Tia, Kiri, and herself before moving on to a recent past life regression I had done on Tia through Mark's body. The life was nothing that had been expected and left her confused as to why that was the one she had to relive. We discuss the pain in Mark's leg he had been experiencing and how we could get him into a healing on the base where it would do him the most good if assisted by me down here. It would be at the end of the session we would find out that Karra had already put the plan into action. Kiri's name came up which caused her to toss water at Karra's just as she emerged from the channeling field that seems to have come back and hit her as well as Tia. The subject we get into is long-distance coercion and how such a thing could be learned. She explains the difference between coercion and persuasion as well as gives a demonstration of raw coercion using only her energy after she disengages from Mark's energy. In fact, we hear that her big sis Karra has given her the okay to coerce me at full intensity at some point in the near future. That brings on Luna who was only in these earlier sessions and is a earth historian. That's why she's able to explain that the great flood described in the Bible was part of a axis shift of the earth at that time. The last person to speak his Tia who lets us know she has six weeks left of nausea during her pregnancy of the triplets of Mark and herself. She updates us on her increasing power of PK that with practice has allowed her to lift up to four times of inert matter. Because of that, she's been helping when the cargo ships come in. We finish things up by setting up an astral travel rendezvous on higher dimensional Sirius where she would help increase my astral travel distance while next launching into a Douglas Adams routine about that hoopy sass Ford Prefect.
 
In love, light, and wisdom as one,
Russ and Karra
                                     

SPEAKERS
ATTENDEES
KORTON- Ringmaster MARK CROCKER (Channel)
ASHTAR RUSS HATFIELD (Archivist)
OMAL
KARRA
KIRI
TIA





SIDE 1

1.)(0:00)- Korton gives his opinion on a higher dimensional race of individuals helping a channeler down here open a portal to Atlantis. They plan to do so through a pyramid being built in southern Colorado.
2.)(20:06)- Ashtar joins this channeling session to follow Korton about the group assisting with the pyramid building. He does reveal some flaws in the design of the pyramid that are pretty significant.
3.)(31:55)- Korton explains who Kuthumi is and that he is a recently ascended being and also that Mark's re-awkening his mental powers from a past life in Atlantis would be bad thing to be avoided. 
4.)(39:45)- Omal has some constructive advice from a master on some lingerie I had tried manifesting for Karra. Except for a few areas of improvement, he found my example to pass his high standards.
5.)(50:27)- Karra has some good news to for the short time left on this side of the tape. She is pregnant and, to top things off, she may be having twins which would be confirmed only later.
SIDE 2

1.)(0:00)-  Karra looks to the future in how the children of Mark and myself may be important in the scheme of things and how a past life regression I did on Tia through Mark was causing her confusion.
2.)(8:02)- Kiri provides some tips on how to coerce long distance and the difference between coercion and persuasion. She has has some other for how to coerce someone whose mind is made up.
3.)(17:40)- Luna answers a question on when the last pole shift took place and the last she say is in our records located in our bible. That would indicate it was the reason for the great flood of Noah's time. 
4.)(21:22)- Tia has some updates on her pregnancy and how her cubs learn as she does PK to know how to do it ahead of time. She also sets up astral travel training for me where we will meet on Sirius to start. 
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SIDE ONE


(A bit unusual, but it is Korton who gets the session started)


Russ: all right.

Korton: okay. It was a nice idea but did not function correctly.

Russ: yes. How is the seat, more comfortable?

Korton: yes, more comfortable.

Russ: ahh, good.

Korton: okay, now discussing tonight's events, we have first of all a few other people here than normal. They will be speaking in turn. Now, down to business.

Russ: okay.

Korton: oh dear.

(Russ breaks out in laughter)

Korton: first of all, what would possess this group of thirty-five individuals, was it? To mess around with a vortex that they claimed needed opening when it was fine and functioning within parameters due to new environmental factors.

Russ: this would be Atlantis I take it?

Korton: correct. What would possess them to do something so assinine?

Russ: I believe they're being led by some similar minded entities.

Korton: hmm. More mischievous by the sounds of it or not possessing enough enlightenment. It sounds more along the lines of they are novices at this new line of work and they wish to make themselves appear more than they are which is fine as long as you do not interfere until you have learned enough. It sounds more like a group of individuals that have passed on into a new level of existence still behaving as if they have this flesh and bone substance. That is third dimensional, not fifth or sixth or seventh dimension, they're behaving very much with conceit that you would expect from somebody of the third dimension saying, "okay, I want to be immortalized, let's build myself a temple that people will remember me by".

Russ: yeah, it certainly sounds like an ego on the way up to becoming God right here.

Korton: that is what they wish. After all, did they not say a new world order?

Russ: ahh, yeah.

Korton: we do not wish to create a new world order. We wish you to evolve at your own pace. Accelerating the evolution of a race is harmful because you do not learn from that. That was proved in Atlantis with the interference of various parties between Cro-Magnon and modern man and look what happened there?

Russ: us.

Korton: uh-huh and all your problems and imperfections.

Russ: right.

Korton: admittedly, the forced evolution means that you have not learned sufficiently and this is what these individuals are trying to create and have not learned that a forced evolution does not work.

Russ: so in another words, the pyramids in Atlantis were designed under the same auspices of what you're looking at here.

Korton: basically yes, but there are many different factors which have to be taken into consideration.

Russ: right. Well for one, they're not going to be generating power.

Korton: no.

Russ: they're going to be receiving information and power from the sounds of it here.

Korton: yes, does that not sound flawed to you?

Russ: yeah. I mean when I look at what they're calling the emitter being the Crab Nebula, Pleiades, Hercules and some things I don't have time for right now, it's like what the heck is being emitted from these places?

Korton: sources of information which are advanced but are tainted by the emotions of recently, as they would say, ascended individuals.......

Russ: ahhh.

Korton: but still possess and think in a third dimensional way. To achieve the unity that they are looking for, you have to first of all stop thinking in
the third dimensional level. Constructing temples is fine if you want to be immortalized for a time but if you want true unity, then you proceed with what you have at hand, you do not need to construct such things. We are not saying do not construct this pyramid that they wish to construct, but we're saying first of all look at the motives of other groups concerned.

Russ: well, looking at the pyramid at Giza, I mean isn't this merely a redundant example of what's already taken place on third dimension?

Korton: correct.

Russ: so why not build this thing on fifth dimension if you really want to get busy?

Korton: uh-huh. It is because these individuals are still thinking in
a third dimensional way.

Russ: hmm, sounds a lot like that.

Korton: yes, it does, doesn't it?

Russ: well what the heck are they opening up vortexes in Atlantis for?

Korton: that is something that we cannot figure out that they would be so stupid to mess around with something that they do not possess the intelligence to work with. The intelligence to using that would realize that it would be unnecessary and unwise at present with the technology available at hand to mess around with that.

Russ: well theoretically they might not have opened it. I will have to find this book out and see what kind of experiences they had out of this.

Korton: hmm.

Russ: "Sacred Journey to Atlantis?"

Korton: yes.

Russ: this should be good.

Korton: presumably, it will say that they did open a vortex.

Russ: presumably, yeah.

Korton: but how can you open a vortex that already is open?

Russ: by going to one that's already open and getting its energy and thinking that it's yours.

Korton: correct.

Russ: that's a bit egotistical.

Korton: very. We're not knocking the young lady concerned.....

Russ: right.

Korton: but it sounds like she has been led up the proverbial garden path.

Russ: uh-huh.

Korton: and these individuals that claim to be enlightened on a higher dimension need a severe talking to.

Russ: I don't know, ascended Masters who talk to her on a computer just figures a little weird to me.

Korton: hmm, yes.

Russ: I mean, this is a wee bit more person-to-person but on your computer?

Korton: well......

Russ: there's room for error there if you ask me.

Korton: yes. Because of the speed of the silicon chips and the electrical impulses.

Russ: right and going from brain to hand to keyboard......

Korton: yes.

Russ: that alone is going to cause interference.

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: oh boy.

Korton: yes exactly, oh boy.

Russ: okay, who is this Kuthumi fellow? Have you ever heard of this guy?

Korton: yes, we have heard of him and he is with good intent. He has wisdom but, he has the problem of being recently ascended and thinking in
a third dimensional way.

Russ: hmm. Well, yeah, looks like what? His last life was yeah, as Kuthumi. Before that, John the Beloved and so on and so on.

Korton: Pythagoras I believe.

Russ: Pythagoras, right, yeah.

Korton: yes.

Russ: so he's still kind of involved with those things that happened on this third dimensional existence.

Korton: yes. For somebody that still hangs around their home planet having achieved a new level of existence, well what does that suggest?

Russ: that you still got a bunch of karma you're trying to work out.

Korton: correct.

Russ: hmm, bad way to work it out by using people like this for questionable goals but........

Korton: no, not questionable. There is good intent to get the human mind to work together but, they forget many factors. Human nature, human greed, the environmental factors, astronomical factors.

Russ: well they're talking about having it.......well get to that number while forceful stuff.

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: I mean they're expecting weird things. Okay......

Korton: they will be very disappointed.

Russ: now they're looking at having the person who built Solomon's Temple and the Great Pyramid assist them on the architecture of this.

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: well, that should be interesting I think.

Korton: yes, it should be, shouldn't it?

Russ: well if they track him down, I'll be getting a good laugh here.

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: okay now, according to them, below this obsidian capstone......

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: they're looking at having these columns connected up to these computer centers.......

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: that are set up to receive information from ships down to an earth based level.

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: why does that sound wrong to me?

Korton: because it is already happening.

Russ: right.

Korton: how does NASA receive information? You don't need to build a pyramid for that. You can get a simple copper dish and receive information from spaceships, it's quite simple.

Russ: well how come we're not doing it now?

Korton: because it is an obsolete technology.

Russ: oh.

Korton: it is all fine and dandy. Basically what they're making is a receiver that uses telemetry to track the tracking.

Russ: oh. Yeah, we got that already.

Korton: correct.

Russ: okay, well the obsidian contains electrolytic charges......

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: that's supposed to regulate the energy levels of this thing.

Korton: yes.

Russ: does that sound like it's workable for you?

Korton: yes, it is workable.

Russ: and using a crystal chamber?

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: to work through those same energies.

Korton: correct. Where are they going to get the energies from?

Russ: right. Typically from what they say with the ley lines and the grid lines....

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: being perfectly aligned like a typical pyramid.

Korton: yes.

Russ: so I guess that's where they're getting the energies from.

Korton: presumably....

Russ: wait a minute, that doesn't work.

Korton: correct.

Russ: because they're trying......

Korton: because one messes up the other.

Russ: right, plus they're drawing it down......

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: that means they're not pulling up from the earth at all.

Korton: no.

Russ: now what they're talking about is trying to set up something that's going to stop the shifting of the earth axis.

Korton: uh-huh. If anything, it will aggravate it.

Russ: yeah. We're talking southern Colorado. If I'm not mistaken, that's not exactly on the other side of the world from the Great Pyramid.

Korton: no, that is the reason why we are concerned is that it will aggravate things more.

Russ: then what the heck are they doing this for? Nevermind, I don't want to get upset about this.

Korton: no, don't. There is one word of wisdom that was spoken....

Russ: when was that?

Korton: about keeping calm.

Russ: yeah, that's for sure.

Korton: it is unfortunate that the karma of a few can affect many.

Russ: well that's if they can get this thing built. We're looking at a structure some 497.64 feet long.......

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: with a six sided wall around it.

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: I mean we have enough trouble with our national budget much less trying to get something like this built.

Korton: and with what they have in mind? Do you know, and the channeler is aware of this, what they would need to construct this?

Russ: as far as financial terms?

Korton: no, the materials.

Russ: the materials? Well just to start with the twelve foot sides of the capstone alone coming from Jerusalem.

Korton: Jericho.

Russ: Jericho. You're looking at an immense cost in just building materials.

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: much less the crystal chamber and gold plated ceiling and.....

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: I mean, the gold plated ceiling has nothing to do with the energies. It's merely an example of man's tribute....

Korton: yes, to his God.

Russ: right.

Korton: and who is God?

Russ: us.

Korton: correct.

Russ: it sounds like the sixteen Chapel practically.

Korton: uh-huh, sixteen?

Russ: Sistine.

Korton: yes, get your pronunciation correct.

Russ: specific.

Korton: yes.

Russ: okay. Now then, they're dealing with two stars of David......

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: which will help unite the planet also. Why not pentagrams?

Korton: because they are dealing with third dimensional beings basically. That's all they are, they have ascended to another dimension but still have the principles and knowledge of an old science.

Russ: yeah, I noticed there is a lot of threes floating around this whole mess that we are talking about tonight.

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: I mean, good Lord, trines in every position that they've got. That's kind of a big clue right there.
We're supposed to be setting this to transition from 3rd to 5th?

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: and yet they're doing all in threes?

Korton: yes.

Russ: it doesn't make sense.

Korton: because they're still laboring under the misapprehension of the sacred numbers. The sacred numbers are fine and dandy when you're messing around on your own dimension but once you proceed into another dimension, then there is a new law of physics to learn. The fourth dimension is unusable except for in traveling great distances. Because, what is the fourth dimension?

Russ: time.

Korton: and? They're on about ascending into the freedom of the fifth dimension which is?

Russ: space.

Korton: correct. So, they have a problem there.

Russ: right.

Korton: it's not the fifth dimension you're aiming for. The fifth dimension is a stepping stone into other dimensions. From one to another, back to the third or onto the sixth, it depends on where you wish to go.

Russ: right. Well now what is this about Telluric currents?

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: what the heck is a Telluric current?

Korton: that is a current which runs through the cosmos that can be affected by the gravitational field of a planet and be focused by collection on a particular point.

Russ: are there any examples of that here on earth like say vortexes or something?

Korton: hmm, vortexes is a very unfocused form of that.

Russ: what would be a focused example?

Korton: a portal.

Russ: like the Great Pyramid maybe?

Korton: uh-huh. You focus it and you create the portal from one place to another.

Russ: that keys into a lot of things then.

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: so, where would these folks be trying to focus all these
Telluric currents on this spot in Southern Colorado?

Korton: that would act as a gateway, a portal to somewhere else.

Russ: what are they trying to establish a portal for?

Korton: I don't know.

Russ: sounds kind of funky to me.

Korton: yes, it sounds very suspicious.

Russ: very suspicious. And here we are, these same
Telluric currents are supposed to help establish a electromagnetic force field.....

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: that will keep away those elements wishing to, how do they put it? Bring down this achievement.

Korton: yes. They are trying to create a defense shield against other groups. They appear to be more militaristic than certain organizations and various sectors throughout this galaxy.

Russ: or they're expecting military intervention.

Korton: which means that they are more militaristic.

Russ: right. For example, what happens if suddenly this thing does start aggravating the Earth's polarity and someone tries to stop it, they run into a force field?

Korton: correct.

Russ: and it's too late.

Korton: correct. Well, we will now hand over to someone who has some very important things to say on this issue.

Russ: okay, great. Thank you Korton.






(Ashtar honors us with some time from his busy schedule)



Ashtar: greetings and felicitations Mr. Hatfield.

Russ: greetings Ashtar.

Ashtar: yes, indeed.

Russ: I thought you might be interested in this thing.

Ashtar: okay, first of all, let's get your questions out of the way before I give my dissertation on this current development and situation.

Russ: okay, speaking on this current development, Mark's coming up with the fact that they can't match to these star systems they're trying to match to.

Ashtar: correct.

Russ: so even if they build this, they're still going to run into problems once they get it built.

Ashtar: correct.

Russ: so their information is being flawed then.

Ashtar: yes.

Russ: okay.

Ashtar: I believe my esteemed colleague said that these are third dimensional beings with the capability of being in seventh or recently ascended to seventh.

Russ: right.

Ashtar: however, these star systems that they talk about can be aligned at particular times of the year.

Russ: uh-huh.

Ashtar: but, by using three on each side serve a purpose which yet eludes me, this cannot work all the time.

Russ: right.

Ashtar: you cannot have all three aligned at the same time on every side of the pyramid. When that happens, and it could happen, it will happen sometime down in the future, the alignment of all of these on the correct sides of the pyramid which will be sometime within the next couple thousand years.

Russ: well could this all be one big smokescreen then to establish a purpose that is as yet unknown?

Ashtar: quite possibly.

Russ: okay.

Ashtar: we will take steps to see that this does not happen, that there is no intervention of a recently ascended being into your natural evolution of your planet.

Russ: good. Yeah, it's working out to be that way. Okay, well that was the main question I had anyway. I know time is short so I'll let you....

Ashtar: okay. Let me marshal my thoughts.

Russ: okay.

Ashtar: now, concerning these sacred numbers. Three being the number and 12 being the number.

Russ: uh-huh.

Ashtar: doesn't it sound as if these individuals are still very much more than people realize three dimensional? Having recently ascended to the seventh, they behave in such a way that suggests that they haven't yet reached the mental capability to have achieved full enlightenment. They are still tinged by the emotions of the third dimension. Various passions and anxieties, wishing to be pleased. "You will do this" and so on is the words that they use.

Russ: uh-huh.

Ashtar: they do not request that if you wish to, it is, "you will". Do not trust these individuals however, it may be useful to experiment with them to see how far they want to go. Gaining their confidence so that they will divulge things. Then, report to us and we can see what is happening. Whether or not the situation is developing into a dangerous level or if they are just messing around and do not understand and do not possess the capability to cause harm which we hope is the case. However, if inadvertently they start to cause harm, again we will step in and stop any of this riskful behavior happening. Now, there is another point to be discussed. There is the Atlantean, the Egyptian, and the Knights Templar, there is a problem here. The first two go together extremely well in the way of their behavior. The final part, the Knights Templar, would have a conniption fit at being associated with the previous two as they believe in a God being a being whereas the Egyptians believed in many gods and the Atlanteans believed in a collective consciousness as a God. Everybody being a God. You, me, Tia, Calvin, all being Gods which is true to a certain extent.

Russ: right.

Ashtar: so, there is a problem here as well. You cannot fit those three together, they do not work. People that were Knights Templar in one life would have extreme difficulty working with somebody that has a more recent memory of another era. They would not jive although there are individuals that have been all three. But this is to work out karma and persecutions of the previous two. Somebody that was a Knights Templar only in a lifetime and not an the Atlantean nor an Egyptian would have a hard time working with these individuals.

Russ: hmm, okay.

Ashtar: now, the construction of the aforementioned pyramid. Obsidian is fine but, using copper and titanium core for the copper would be beneficial for focusing energy to create a portal. But, the question is, where does this portal go?

Russ: hmm.

Ashtar: is it a gateway for conquest? As we suspect that their form of progress is more in the way of enforcing their way of thinking on lesser beings. Do you not try to force your way of thinking onto animals such as pets?

Russ: yes.

Ashtar: doesn't that sound correct for them? Are they not trying to enforce their way on you?

Russ: using the same analogy, yes.

Ashtar: yes, do you wish to be pets?

Russ: no.

Ashtar: then why are individuals
letting themselves believe that they will help? Do not help your pets?

Russ: uh-huh, we feed them and all.

Ashtar: uh-huh, but what freedom do they have?

Russ: well our cats are pretty free. They know where the food dishes are at and come to it when they're hungry.

Ashtar: yes, but what about the canine species?

Russ: well they don't have much freedom at all.

Ashtar: and birds and other animals that you keep in cages.

Russ: uh-huh.

Ashtar: the cage can be a nice environment but it is no substitute for experience that is not controlled.

Russ: right, they live in a limited world in other words.

Ashtar: correct.
But the fifth dimension is a gateway to other dimensions because of its very nature of being space. But, however, it can be turned to your advantage.

Russ: okay.

Ashtar: that by accelerating those selected individuals that have the capability that are already enlightened and evolved, can proceed to the fifth dimension and thus stepping off into other dimensions. There are some individuals that appear to be more evolved than the recently ascended. A person that springs to mind that would be greatly welcome is the Dalai Lama.

Russ: hmm.

Ashtar: he is by his very nature an enlightened person. He is not a pacifist so therefore he does not preach do not cause harm because struggle is necessary because it means that you learn from it.

Russ: right.

Ashtar: and the Dalai Lama appreciates the value of struggle.

Russ: yeah, I heard him a few days ago and he is quite informative and intelligent.

Ashtar: very. And he would be greatly welcomed here but I believe that he has more work to do with you before he is ready to make the jump. Now, my time is as you said running short. I must depart but I assure you once I have had time to analyze these facts, and thank you for bringing them to our attention, I will be back talking to you.

Russ: okay.

Ashtar: it may be a couple of days, it may be longer but I assure you we will be giving it our full attention.

Russ: I will keep you fully informed.

Ashtar: thank you.

Russ: my pleasure, you're welcome.






(Korton takes the place of Ashtar in the channeling field)



Korton: greetings once again.

Russ: greetings Korton.

Korton: yes.

Russ: whew.

Korton: as always.

Russ: as always. Okay, sounds to me like the Kuthumi fellow, has got some unfinished business down here on earth.

Korton: yes it does, doesn't it?

Russ: yeah. It sounds like he's trying hard to finish it up no matter what the cost.

Korton: uh-huh, even to himself. But he will have problems once he finishes his karma because he is creating more. Once his existence in the seventh is finished, he will return to the third........

Russ: oh geez.

Korton: because he has created more karma that needs to be worked on.

Russ: how did he get to the seventh in the first place?

Korton: that eludes me.

(Russ laughs)

Russ: it really eludes me. It's like, this guy shouldn't have gotten past the fifth.

Korton: well, some things do slip through the gaps occasionally.

Russ: I guess. Okay, now on reporting and surveillance, are we talking surveillance of a astral nature then?

Korton: yes.

Russ: and reporting from a physical nature.

Korton: yes.

Russ: okay. Sounds like a good plan. I'll get more information from Raya on all this fun stuff and get exact map coordinates to work with.

Korton: yes. Do not as of yet tell her how concerned we are. Just say that we are showing interest.......

Russ: okay.

Ashtar: and we advise caution.

Russ: okay.

Ashtar: caution to proceed carefully and get more facts and information before proceeding. Point out various incontinuities as if they're your own thoughts.

Russ: okay.

Ashtar: when the time is correct, we will inform Raya of developments.

Russ: okay. Like opening vortexes in an Atlantean area.

Korton: yes. And we also perceive that they will claim to have the builder of the pyramids of Giza.

Russ: yeah, they will assume so.

Korton: yes. No, they will claim sometime down in the future that they will claim to have the person who constructed the pyramids of Giza. The Great Pyramid to be precise.

Russ: that would be fairly easy to determine one way or another, just do a regression.

Korton: you've already done a regression where an individual has a little knowledge to say the least.

Russ: right. But we're talking about someone who has major knowledge and this would be almost impossible. We'll work on that later.

Korton: remember a brainstorming session?

Russ: I do remember it well.

Korton: yes, and?

Russ: and Mark was in his incarnation of Maxxus being quite involved in the building of that pyramid.

Korton: yes? Who would be the best person to use at present to construct a new pyramid?

Russ: Mark.

Korton: yeah, precisely.

Russ: but with more knowledge than he currently possesses on pyramid building.

Korton: yes, you would have to regress him to the building.

Russ: yes.

Korton: and of course we would not let that happen in such a situation.

Russ: right, because it would accelerate this problem.

Korton: yes and also because it would open up other problems and also unleashing the full capability of Maxxus on these people.

Russ: well yeah, we don't want that. We'd have crystals popping up everywhere.

Korton: not only crystals but also the fact that he was a person of quite considerable PK.

Russ: true.

Korton: if they got him to a point where he was in a situation of danger, then what? Would he not unleash his full psychokinetic capability?

Russ: I wonder if they would do that to me at that point anyway.

Korton: combined with the capability of manifestation....

Russ: yeah, you'd be frying brains right and left and sideways.

Korton: exactly. But in a controlled environment it could be beneficial.

Russ: right, kept under control.

Korton: yes, exactly. I'm sure that other ascended beings do not realize the full danger that they would be putting the people on the third dimension in by awakening this capability or for a better word, this monster.

Russ: well that's not going to happen so that's at least one weight off of our minds.

Korton: yes.

Russ: if Mark was not in here with us, he'd probably be with them there.

Korton: yes, and we would send you to stop it.

Russ: that would be no problem, theoretically.

Korton: theoretically. You may have had to do the brotherly duty to stop the horror.

Russ: okay.

Korton: repay the debt as it were.

Russ: right.

Korton: work out that bit of karma.

Russ: yeah.

Korton: okay, now, to lighter matters.

Russ: yes.

Korton: congratulations.

Russ: thank you, thank you. Yes, I'm pretty excited myself.

Korton: I believe it is your custom?

Russ: oh, yes it is. Well done then. Yes, I'm pretty happy.

Korton: maybe twins, we hope.

Russ: that would be great. Okay, yes, this is much better than going through deep, deep, deep, deep stuff.

Korton: yes. Okay?

Russ: all right.

Korton: now do you have, it would appear from what has preceded, any light and frivolous questions?

Russ: I'll save a few for Omal.

Korton: okay. Then we have done our duty.

Russ: okay.

Korton: we look forward to discussing with you this matter, other matters at a later date?

Russ: okay.

Korton: as always, it is a pleasure to have been here.

Russ: all right.

Korton: and have an enjoyable morning.

Russ: you too Korton. Enjoy and we will talk to you soon on this matter.






(Omal bookends an already heavy session with a lighter touch)



Omal: greetings Russ.

Russ: greetings Omal.

Omal: and how is everything functioning?

Russ: slightly within specified parameters.

Omal: yes. Well, there is nothing that I can touch that my colleagues have not already touched.

Russ: this is true. Good.

Omal: and this is what we find.

(Russ starts laughing at that one)

Russ: it's a good joke, I like that one.

Omal: okay.

Russ: all right, manifestation.

Omal: okay, hold out your hand. Do the penny.

Russ: okay.

Omal: just kidding.

Russ: fifth dimensional manifestation.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: lingerie style.

Omal: uh-huh?

Russ: okay, pointers please.

Omal: pointers, okay. More concentration, not so much drifting, more energy.

Russ: okay. Now, was I trying to get too much detail?

Omal: yes.

Russ: little less detail.

Omal: you were also trying too hard.

Russ: okay.

Omal: you have to relax a little bit and let the energy flow. Collect the energy and then let it flow.

Russ: all right. A little too tough an object to maybe start with?

Omal: possibly.

Russ: I never really got to see the final product, did it come off pretty good?

Omal: yes, you got it perfect.

Russ: okay, good. All I know is the basics was kind of okay.

Omal: yes. A little bit about two inches from the hip height is what you wished?

Russ: right.

Omal: I mean two inches below.

Russ: oh yeah, right.

Omal: yes. Hip height would be up to her navel.

Russ: yes. A little risqué even for Hades Base.

Omal: yes.

Russ: okay, and then the frills came out real fine.

Omal: real fine.

Russ: okay. Now, I assumed going into this that working on something of a light, flimsy nature......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: would take considerably less energy than something more dense as in a penny.

Omal: yes.

Russ: unfortunately, that's not quite how it works out.

Omal: no, it is not the case.

Russ: well why is that, because of the size of it?

Omal: partly. Also the construction of different thickness in materials.....

Russ: okay.

Omal: especially around the frilly areas and the fact of the density. You can compact molecules down quite easy but once you have to stretch them back out, that takes a little bit more energy so you do not have to pack them as much. You were tending to pack them down as if you were trying to create a penny.

Russ: oh. So I little more light and airy in my construction?

Omal: yes. Where it is normally fine to be heavy-handed, it is not in this case. With the penny, the more heavy-handed you are the better.

Russ: right.

Omal: but, with something so fine and not as densely packed, then it is necessary to not be as heavy-handed. In fact it is a very precise thing to do.

Russ: okay, well being as I've only worked with pennies, it's......

Omal: yes, you are at a disadvantage.

Russ: yeah, my first efforts are going to be a little bit heavy-handed.

Mark: of course but it's given you something to work on.

Russ: that's true. I mean, I got a lot of good experience working on that station and fit.

Omal: uh-huh. Once you have mastered it to perfection here, then you will be able to master it reasonably well down there.

Russ: uh-huh, that's true. So kind of working on a little bit lighter materials also is little bit better for my practice especially in such large quantity as such.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, I'll try underwear next time.

Omal: yes, I believe she likes boxer shorts.

Russ: oh, yuck. I'm thinking more like fairly lightweight bikini-style underwear.

Omal: oh, you could.

Russ: less dense and less material.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: she'll have to get used to that.

Omal: okay. Tia likes that sort of thing.

Russ: okay. Well what I'll try to do is set it up a little bit not quite as lightweight material, maybe something more like T-shirt material.

Omal: time to change the subject.

Russ: oh, okay.

Omal: the ladies are here.

Russ: oh.

Omal: the sirens of Hades.

Russ: the ladies of Hades.

Omal: yes, they were kept away because of higher authorities.

Russ: ahh, okay.

Omal: Ashtar in other words.

Russ: right, of course. Okay, well the energy was probably pretty heavy in there at that point anyway.

Omal: uh-huh. And as two of them have to be careful......

Russ: right.

Omal: okay.

Russ: okay. Now then, let's see, I assume then that the idea for doing a little hand clapping up there.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: came from someone who would have good knowledge of such things.

Omal: yes.

Russ: thank you.

Omal: you're welcome. Okay, next question.

Russ: all right, dealing with surveillance......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, I want to know on going through the astral form for surveillance, what is it that would take the same kind of focusing that I used this morning? In other words, would my ultra senses come into play for this then?

Omal: yes.

Russ: okay.

Omal: focus tightly, use your eyes and your ears. Don't worry too much about the smell sensation, you can do away with that and the feeling sensation. Just concentrate with your eyes and hearing as if you were watching television.

Russ: hey, there's a good analogy.

Omal: oh, thank you.

Russ: excellent. Okay, so I can use that same.......better, better. Because you kind of lose yourself into a TV program.

Omal: yes.

Russ: it would be the same system where like you leave yourself in surveillance.

Omal: correct.

Russ: ahhh, excellent. Okay, thank you.

Omal: okay. Any more questions?

Russ: uh-uh.

Omal: any jokes?

Russ: no, I came unprepared for jokes tonight.

Omal: we have none either.

Russ: that's all right.

Omal: well next time maybe they'll let me handle some of the heavy information.

Russ: okay.

Omal: after all, who runs this place?

Russ: good point.

Omal: okay.

Russ: all right. Thank you very much Omal for everything.

Omal: well, in the flavor of the current situation, two star general Omal signing off.

Russ: Lance Cpl. Hatfield out also.

Omal: don't underestimate your rank if this was a military organization.

Russ: true.

Omal: the only part of it that is military is?

Russ: the pilots.

Omal: yes and they're very un-military compared to your planet.

Russ: yes, luckily.

Omal: fortunately.

Russ: right.

Omal: well?

Russ: farewell, we'll talk to you very soon.

(Russ starts laughing)

Omal: I'll be back.

Russ: I'll be waiting. Perhaps Korton should have used that just before Ashtar channeled?

Russ: that would've been good.

Omal: yes it would've.

Russ: a bit of humor there.

Omal: unfortunately, I don't think humor was on the agenda for those two.

Russ: no, that was pretty serious.

Omal: yes it was. Well, as a wise man once said, let's act like a stick of dynamite and get the flock out of here. Sorry, let's blow this joint.

Russ: right. Take care, I'll see you soon.

Omal: look forward to it.






(Karra comes on to get side two started early)


Karra: no Carrie?

Russ: no Carrie, she'll be here Tuesday.

Karra: okay, looking forward to it. I'll be ready.........yeah, I can focus enough energy, no problem.

Russ: okay, we're going to work on the smaller areas of the body then?

Karra: yes, as was discussed earlier on.

Russ: okay, I wondered about that since she left already.

Karra: okay. We'll probably start off with mental damage and also physical damage from one end to the other as it were.

Russ: okay.

Karra: oh, thank you. Well, it takes two to dance, takes two to play wisk.......no.......chess. Floor chess.

Russ: that's very good.

Karra: yes indeed. Okay.

Russ: all right. What's up love, how you feeling?

Karra: umm, I'm not throwing up yet.

Russ: all right.

Karra: it's still early. I thought I might've been when we discussed things on Wednesday, was it?

Russ: or Tuesday.

Karra: Tuesday. Thought I might've been but didn't want to.....you know.

Russ: correct.

Karra: I mean, as a rule, as I said I'm not normally late very often. About twice a year. It's normally after a celebration and then after working very hard and heavy.

Russ: uh-huh. Neither one of you should hold onto it.

Karra: no. So, it was likely that I was but I didn't want to say definite and then have to disappoint you.

Russ: right.

Karra: as it is, it is......

Russ: yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now what's the word here on twins?

Karra: there is a distinct possibility.

Russ: really?

Karra:uh-huh.

Russ: you've had twins before?

Karra: no, but occasionally my eggs have been known to split.

Russ: hmmm.

Karra: and as I haven't had any removed for quite a while, it is possible that this one has split.

Russ: oh.

            

SIDE ONE ENDS




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SIDE TWO


(Karra is back but on a new subject)



Russ: if it is possible, there's a name I'd like to throw at you.

Karra: okay.

Russ: Jason and......

Karra: Jason and the Agronauts?

Russ: Argonauts, but yeah, close enough.

Karra:
Agronauts.

Russ:
Agronauts.

Karra: ask the channeler what the word Agro means.

Russ: Agro? I know what Agro means.

Karra: yes.

Russ: Agro means violent?

Karra: yes.

Russ: that's what I thought.

Karra: it is a joke.

Russ: oh, okay.

Karra: Jason and the aggressive ones?

Russ: well, probably at first.

Karra: yes, with Tia's brood. Possibly.

Russ: it's going to be a children's center up there.

Karra: yes, we have a children's center planned.

Russ: oh good, you're going to need one.

Karra: yes, which I believe ties in with something that was discussed briefly about an hour and a half ago?

Russ: centers, yeah. Oh wait....

Karra: making the jump to fifth.

Russ: ahh, yeah.

Karra: it is possible that they are the ones. Not you, not I......

Russ: not Mark.

Karra: not Mark but......

Russ: our offspring.

Karra: yes. After all, we will have a nice, reasonably healthy gene pool to mess around with.

Russ: that's true.

Karra: how is the channeler's finger from the burn?

Russ: I think it's pretty well gone.

Karra: good.

Russ: how is Luna doing?

Karra: better.

Russ: oh good.

Karra: uh-huh. She is unfortunately the only one of her race here.

Russ: so, our condolences?

Karra: no, why?

Russ: well, she's lonely.

Karra: yes. Condolences normally suggest when somebody has ceased to function. Commiseration's would be used.

Russ: ahh, thank you, correct.

Karra: and also you have an apology to make to Tia.

Russ: for the trip?

Karra: no. For awakening thoughts and memories in her.

Russ: oh, yeah. That's for sure.

Karra: yes, she knows that you were responsible for her confusion.

Russ: it was strictly accidental.

Karra: yes. We all make mistakes after all.

Russ: true.

Karra: obviously the channeler made a mistake in not relaying the full story to you.

Russ: yeah, but I'm glad I got it now. I won't be making that same mistake in the future.

Karra: uh-huh. no, and I can discuss is freely as the girls or the young ladies, whatever you wish to call them, are busy at the moment throwing grapes at each other.

Russ: oh good, what fun.

Karra: uh-huh. They're being very juvenile including a redhead.

Russ: oh good, at least they are having fun.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: was there any damage done?

Karra: not major.

Russ: now I understand then that this is something that was necessary. Being as that everything is perfect, there was a plan for this.

Karra: are we still discussing Tia's little.......?

Russ: yeah.

Karra: it wasn't desired as yet, it was a little bit premature.

Russ: right.

Karra: when the time is correct, we will notify you and then you can jog her memory and pull it out of her as it were. But we're going to slow down Tia a little bit on her attempt to be the first one to go solid on a third dimension.

Russ: oh, because it would accelerate that same sort of problem.

Karra: yes. We need time to prepare her.

Russ: okay. Anyway, healing.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: I have got this incredible urge to get some healings started.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: at least practice.

Karra: well, there is something that you could practice on. The channeler has been very male and macho.

Russ: yes, I know but we can't work on that.

Karra: no.

Russ: let's put it that way.

Karra: we suggest that there is an inflamed area on the right leg just above the knee. This has been causing considerable pain to the channeler and we're probably going to get into trouble for divulging this as he is as I said trying to be very macho and go, "no pain, no pain". But we are concerned that it is forming into a debilitating disability as bending the knee does cause pain.

Russ: it wouldn't be tough to kind of give him a workout now. In fact he doesn't have much say in the matter.

Karra: no, but you need his say in the matter.

Russ: ahh, bummer.

Karra: because you have to focus his energies and I can focus his energies but as for control over such a distance, well you see what happens when I lack hand eye coordination, I burn things.

Russ: right. Okay, well we're not going to get him in voluntarily, let's put it that way.

Karra: there is a way, there is a way.

Russ: all right.

Karra: and we shall discuss it with Tia who has quite a bit to say in the matter and we shall put Kiri in for the time being.

Russ: okay.

Karra: so, I'm going to have to set it up with mischievous Tia.

Russ: good luck.

Karra: ouch. Obviously she heard her name. We apologize for making a vocal sound that should've been made up here. As it happens, it appeared down there as well.

Russ: that's all right.

Karra: and I'm now wet. Oh well.

Russ: oh well.

Karra: see you in a little while......

Russ: it's a deal love.

Karra: and I shall be curled up and I shall be expecting you.

Russ: okay, I'll be there.

Karra: yes. And Klarra finally is sleeping all night.

Russ: yeah.

Karra: however, she'll probably won't tonight.

Russ: well, I'll try not to wake her up when I get there.

Karra: that's all right, dad. See you in a little while.

Russ: okay mom.

Karra: thank you, I'm used to that.






(Kiri comes amidst a flying glass of liquid)



Kiri: uh-huh....yo dude.

Russ: yo dudette. Hi Kiri, how's it going?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: all right, I heard you're throwing drinks around.

Kiri: uh-huh, caught big sis.

Russ: oh, you didn't?

Kiri: uh-huh, just as she came out.

Russ: how's it going love?

Kiri: slippery when wet.

Russ: with that many drinks getting thrown I'm sure you're lots of wet.

Kiri: yes.

Russ: okay, good seeing you tonight. And Alex is looking very well.

Kiri: uh-huh. Okay, now then, do you want asked me some questions?

Russ: sure, I'd love to.

Kiri: coercion?

Russ: yeah.

Kiri: okay.

Russ: okay, I know that it's almost impossible to
coerce anyone while farsighting.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: okay. Is there a way to coerce someone from long distance?

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: oh.

Kiri: you can also do that like me, practice.

Russ: practice? How do you practice something like this?

Kiri: oh, you take somebody that is five feet away, you coerce them. Then somebody that is ten feet away, coerce them. And then fifteen, and then thirty, keep on upping the distances.

Russ: all right.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: that should be good to practice on.

Kiri: yeah, lots of practice. Me? I can coerce somebody over 93 million miles.

Russ: good point.

Kiri: I'm fine.

Russ: how about over the telephone?

Kiri: no.

Russ: no chance.

Kiri: not a hope in.....

Russ: Hades.

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: now you do have a voice.......

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and there are ways to pitch your voice.....

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: so that you could gain your things you need.

Kiri: that is popping an idea into somebody's head, that is not coercing them. Yeah, it may sit in their mind for, oh a few minutes, a few days, a few weeks, a few years and then suddenly it will pop out. That is not coercion.

Russ: what is that?

Kiri: that is persuasion.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: this is part of coercion but it is not strictly speaking true coercion.

Russ: I need that.

Kiri: why?

Russ: because I have a feeling I might be having to use some of that stuff here on a project that I got scheduled to start working on. Where I might need to start working on a telephone basis to people. Long distance like out-of-state.

Kiri: okay, now how do we coerce you?

Russ: well I'm sitting right next to you.

Kiri: well......

Russ: and you're using Mark's energy.....

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: just kind of grab me up with your will.

Kiri: yeah because I'm clever. Okay, hold on, let me adjust. Okay, now then, I'm not using Mark's energy...

Russ: okay.

Kiri: disengaging. Now then, you have a great capability of making nice, warm beverages. It is enjoyable. We do enjoy drinking tea with you.

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: it needs to be a little bit stronger. A little bit maybe putting in an extra teabag as it were. So when you come up this morning, I will make tea for you to show you the way that it it needs to be and how I like my tea.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: okay, now then, back to normality.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: I'm plugged back in properly.

Russ: very good.

Kiri: uh-huh. Now you'll see what we mean in a little while. Okay, now then, other questions.

Russ: okay, back to the original question on persuasion.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: now then, the way you just used your vocabulary in such a fluid manner was part of the process. Okay, now, if you eliminate the energy and use strictly vocabulary.......

Kiri: I can't, can you?

Russ: not quite.

Kiri: you think not?

Russ a little bleed though there.

Kiri: so I'm a little bleeder am I? Anyway, carry on. 

Russ: okay, using those same kind of vocabulary.....

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and the way that you coach your phrases, you can accomplish the desired results.

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: though the trick is to have your phrases down before you say them.

Kiri: exactly.

Russ: okay, so we're talking scripts kind of......

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: or basic outlines......

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: and working with familiar phrases.

Kiri: yeah. Well you can work with the tape first and then you could be a crypt finder. Okay, so I haven't got Omal's sense of humor.

Russ: likewise. Okay, to be able to change someone's mind......

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: when they have it set on a particular matter.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: it would take a little bit of logic......

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: persuasion......

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and alternate ideas.

Kiri: yes, laid out very cleverly and precisely and thought out beforehand.

Russ: hmm.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, so that's my job.

Kiri: full-time or part-time?

Russ: part-time luckily.

Kiri: oh goody.

Russ: yeah. Okay.....

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and that would give me good practice for then when I get into a real meeting where I'm eye to eye......

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: to be able add the energy in with that.

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: good.

Kiri: okay.

Russ: that would get me to think a little on your level.

Kiri: dream on.

Russ: hey come on, you can do it.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: well, if I can learn to farsight, I can learn to coerce like you.

Kiri: when I come back, I will show you the full meaning of the word coercion.

Russ: I'm looking forward to that actually.

Kiri: uh-huh. You will see me coerce. You will see me in my full capability and blow instead of being restrained by big sis.

Russ: I'll make sure there's three teabags in there at that point.

Kiri: uh-huh. Okay.

Russ: right.

Kiri: right.

Russ: you out of here? Can I cover his feet up now?

Kiri: it's up to you.

Russ: (laughing) no, it's up you.

Kiri: it is?

Russ: yes. so they won't be uncovered again once I do.

Kiri: okay.

Russ: all right.

Kiri: all right, I'm out of here.

Russ: okay darling, have a very good night. Take a very fun time wherever you're going to do.

Kiri: slippery when wet.

Russ: right.





(Luna makes one of her rare appearences at a channeling session)



Luna: hi.

Russ: hi Tia.

Luna: that's the first time I have been called Tia.

Russ: oh, Luna.

Luna: yes.

Russ: well, I'm glad to hear you and I should've realized that it's not quite Tia's manner of speaking.

Luna: no, it isn't, is it?

Russ: yeah. But, I'm glad to hear you're back with us.

Luna: I've not been out.

Russ: I know but you haven't talked in a while.

Luna: I have much to do.

Russ: well I'm glad that you're able to find time.

Luna: uh-huh.

Russ: enjoy our chat the other tonight?

Luna: yes.

Luna: so what would you like to drink? I have some Sirian wine.

Russ: how about some Sirian white Burgundy?

Luna: I don't have any white Burgundy.

Russ: red wine?

Luna: yes. I have a light red wine.

Russ: okay, I'll leave that to your excellent judgment.

Luna: okay. I only have time for one question.

Russ: okay, let me get a good one. Has our earth shifted axis since it's inception?

Luna: yes.

Russ: while it was populated?

Luna: only once whilst it was populated.

Russ: and, the results would be of Atlantean disaster type kind of?

Luna: check out yourt Bible, you can see an example of the earth shifting.

Russ: once?

Luna: yes.

Russ: hmm.

Luna: that was after Atlantean in recorded history that you have access to.

Russ: that was after the Atlantean?

Luna: yes.

Russ: oh, I had always assumed that was the same thing as the Atlantean.

Luna: no. You see what happens is, occasionally or periodically, your planet goes through the natural shifting of poles. It kind of flips over.

Russ: it flips over?

Luna: yes, there is out wobble in the orbit and it flips.

Russ: okay.

Luna: uh-huh.

Russ: anything on the horizon?

Luna: no.

Russ: is it a predictable shift?

Luna: no, it's not. You see, because of the speed of the rotation increasing, it becomes less frequent.

Russ: oh, good. The thought of our world flipping axis would be a little bit disconcerting.

Luna: yes it would be.

Russ: it would certainly wreck our ski season though.

Luna: no, not really because it would make it colder.

Russ: oh, with the shift?

Luna: yes. Well.......

Russ: oh, okay. Well, thank you.

Luna: because Tia wishes to.....

Russ: thank you very much.......

Luna: uh-huh.

Russ: I'll come up and see you very soon.






(Tia is on to wrap up the session)



Russ: hi Tia.

Tia: hey.

Russ: hey.

(Tia purrs)

Russ: how's it going?

Tia: likewise.

Russ: I'm sure.

Tia: uh-huh. Okay.......

Russ: all right.

Tia: so, what she's been telling you then?

Russ: so how's motherhood treating you, still throwing up?

Tia: a little. Not as much as I was. Want me to demonstrate?

(Russ laughs)

Russ: no, we better hold off on that.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: but since your gestation period........

Tia: yeah.

Russ: if I got that right.......is shorter than my lady's.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: that means your pregnancy period would be a little bit more of an upheaval.

Tia: a little. It's supposed to last three months and as I've only been pregnant for now six weeks, I've still got another six weeks to go before I start to get a bit of an upheaval. My stomach goes or currently it will go....hmmmph.

Russ: wow, all at once kind of.

Tia: yeah. My stomach will be out by, let me see if I can get this right, this is going to be a little bit of a workout. Someday getting out to that.

Russ: God.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: you have quite a bit then.

Tia: oh yeah. But I've never been pregnant before so I'm looking forward to it. Somebody else that I knew there had never been pregnant before.

Russ: oh, she came through it okay.

Tia: yeah. I told you I was tough.

Russ: well, you've got an advantage over them anyway.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: you can float.

Tia: oh yeah, uh-huh.

Russ: you can pretty much negate the effects of gravity upon your body.

Tia: yeah. I won't have any stretch marks either.

Russ: that's right, you won't, will you?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: now here's a question for you.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: you're connected deeply with those children inside you, correct?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: now, that means mentally you're on a telepathic bond.

Tia: not yet.

Russ: well slightly.

Tia: they're only just a little bit smaller than my little finger.

Russ: that's pretty small.

Tia: yeah.

Russ: okay, well as they grow then, you're going to have a tighter and tighter telepathic bond.

Tia: yeah, uh-huh.

Russ: therefore you're using PK throughout this pregnancy.......

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: would be kind of like a lesson for them....

Tia: on how to use PK.

Russ: before they're born.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: interesting.

Tia: yes, isn't it?

Russ: I would've never thought of that before.

Tia: uh-huh. I remember as a very little girl, no smart comments please.....

Russ: right.

Tia: but I used to be able to float in my bed. I was probably be about five, can't quite remember, it was kind of one of those childhood memories?

Russ: right. So this will be similar to what your children will go through when they're born.

Tia: yeah.

Russ: they'll have the knowledge.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: boy, that's going to be fun in the nursery.

Tia: oh yeah. You know how much I can lift inert matter?

Russ: how much?

Tia: oh, close to probably about four tons.

Russ: 4 tons!!

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: God, my car doesn't weigh 4 tons.

Tia: oh, guess who goes down and helps occasionally keep her handy with unloading cargo boats?

Russ: oh. Who was it that might've helped out as a matter of lifting mattresses about a week or two ago?

(Tia starts whistling)

Russ: thank you for that by the way.

Tia: see, I can do it whenever I want.

Russ: uh-huh, pretty amazing stuff.

Tia: yeah. Let me demonstrate. Whirrr whirrr, funny, they were working this morning.

Russ: yeah.

Tia: now then, there's a message from Karra, I'm not quite sure what it means. Oops, dropped it. oh dear, teach me to write things down, won't it? Yes, later on.

Russ: okay, you'll be assisting then?

Tia: yes.

Russ: thank you.

Tia: that's what she said anyway. She said yes, later on when he gets back.

Russ: oh, that's good.

Tia: uh-huh. So we're going to assist when I see him before he goes, I'm going to say, " listen here buddy, when you're in pain, I'm in pain. And at the moment, because I'm pregnant, I don't want pain". It's not strictly true you know.

Russ: true, but he's going to be listening.

Tia: oh well.

Russ: oh well.

Tia: hey, maybe by mentioning the fact, it will make you more considerate. Okay, now then....

Russ: right.

Tia: Wednesday night.

Russ: Wednesday night. I'm meeting you on some far-off star.

Tia: uh-huh, how about Sirus?

Russ: oh, I like that.

Tia: fifth dimension.

Russ: okay.

Tia: outside the Horse and Hound.

Russ: oh.

Tia: actually, it will be outside the Porpoise and the Tuna.

Russ: bar?

Tia: uh-huh.

Tia: sort of a fishy place.

Russ: good seafood I'll bet.

Tia: always something suspicious going on there.

(Tia giggles)

Tia: yes, it is a good seafood farm. Unfortunately, because I'll be farsighting and you'll be farsighting, you won't be able to indulge in it.

Russ: true.

Tia: so, next time Taal makes a trip up there I'm like hitchhiking.

Russ: oh, good idea, grab some good seafood.

Tia: uh-huh. See if he can bring it back with him. Takes for him about a, oh, two hours there, two hours back, so it would be a four hour round-trip, layover of an hour, five hours? Oh, I'm a mathematical genius.

Russ: well good, then I'll come up and share some seafood with you sometime.

Tia: uh-huh. Yeah, I'll keep it nice and fresh.

Russ: all right. If you have any oysters, that'd be a great job.

Tia: yeah. Okay, now then......

Russ: right.

Tia: any questions?

Russ: yeah.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: on farsighting........

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: the trip, I need to work on focusing.

Tia: uh-huh. Okay, tell you what I'll do, tell you what I'll do is I'll get on the blower and we shall get some special plaques made up in your English writing.

Russ: oh, that should help.

Tia: uh-huh, so you can read them.

Russ: okay, good.

Tia: what I will do is I will tell the channeler to write them down so that when you get back, you tell him, see if they natch.

Russ: excellent, alright.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: and that sounds like a good plan. Am I going to look for you there?

Tia: I will find you.

Russ: when I get there.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, good, we're set for Wednesday.

Tia: yeah. What did Kiri say, slippery when wet?

Russ: slippery when wet.

Tia: yes, well I always carry a towel.

Russ: hey, a towel is a very valuable item for travel.

Tia: how so?

Russ: well, if you've ever read the "Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy", always keep your towel handy or know where it's at.

Tia: okay, tell me what's so special about a towel.

Russ: well, a towel has many special uses. You can use it for a headband in the desert......

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: you can use it for a pair of shorts if you ever have come up short.

Tia: what, you mean like a nappy?

Russ: right.

Tia: nappy, I get confused sometimes.

Russ: extra-large napkin for an especially messy meal.

Tia: uh-huh. Use it for hand-to-hand combat.

Russ: you betcha.

Tia: you can use it as a sail to sail down slow, heavy river mop. Yes, we found the file.

Russ: I thought you might. What is it, a good frood who knows where his towel is?

Tia: no, it's, "hey, who's that hoopy sass Ford Prefect, there is a frood who knows where his towel is.

Russ: that's the one.

Tia: sass: to meet, to know, to be aware of, have sex with; hoopy: really together guy; frood: really amazingly together guy.

Russ: that's the one, very good. You're a file hunters...

Tia: yeah. We have a answer, 42.

Russ: now for something completely different.

Tia: you have me at a disadvantage, that's not here.

Russ: no, that's Monty Python.

Tia: oh, okay.

Russ: anyway, look forward to Wednesday. I think we're going to have a great, great fun time.

Tia: well, I'm going off to do some thinking with my other part of my anatomy.

Russ: okay.

Tia: so, I guess you could say that about wraps it up for this session.

Russ: yes it does. Thank you very much love, have a very wonderful time in keeping you happy.

Tia: message from Karra, you're not going to stop practicing are you?

Russ: never.

Tia: oh well, I'm going to go off and get spoken for again.

Russ: okay. Go have fun being spoken for.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: have a great time.

Tia: okay, have a great time then.

Russ: I will.

To: okay.

Russ: bye love.


 
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