Archivist Notes: November is here and the channeling session for the month focuses on three main areas, astral travel, greenhouse design, and meta-concert lessons. Here are some notes from the session that are more of a hind the scenes notes that came up during our transcription. Tia gets us going with a discussion on her favorite topic of astral travel and how some have the skill in abundance and some less so. We should point out that the reason the topic came up was about a question on Mark's astral travel ability and my inability to come close to his level. As a Grand Master in the skill, he was able to spend more time on the base than he was down here on earth. The next note is about Tia mentioning the boats, she's talking about some scale RC models of sailing boats Mark and I would race against each other. The next note is about the book mentioned in the session called 2150 from Thea Alexander and concerns a man who moved forward in time from 1975 to 2150 in his astral form and tries to find ways to stay in that future time. That then is the end of Tia's time talking so we move on to Kiri who would use up the rest of the side to help with plans for a greenhouse that Mark and I were considering building. What can barely be heard is that while she is talking, Kiri is using Mark's body to sketch out the plans being discussed.. The problem we had to plant for was the multiple feet of snow that could be deposited on a structure's roof within just a few hours at 6500 feet. Side two starts off with Karra and the behind the scene notes for her time talking are that Kiri hung around within the channeling field so that both sisters would be using Mark's body for this section. Karra would do the talking and Kiri would move the body as needed. When we talk about healing Carrie in the session, she was someone suffering from a cancerous tumor that was eventually cured through a base meta-concert. Before that though, we were trying different things including herbology as a natural option. Karra doesn't stay long to give Omal time for the planned dissertation on meta-concerts. With that, Omal uses the rest of the tape to cover a very important subject. The most important note not covered in the summary would be that the oaths that are mentioned concern the protection of the young. The two people mentioned in the aggressive meta-concert were fulfilling an oath that for them was unbreakable. Those using such means to an end take on the karma good or bad. The sound on side two isn't as good as on side one so a transcript may come in handy.

As we take it deeper look at the channeling session for November, the speakers on it are the four main speakers we normally hear. In this case, Tia and Kiri took care of the first half while Karra and Omal used up the second. Tia gets us into an astral travel discussion about the ability of Mark to go solid and my hopes to join him in that ability. What Tia does is explain how Mark is a natural talent while mine has to be developed. She reminds me of the effects Mark's dimension jumping is having on his body. In 1995, we still didn't know that the base was on sixth dimension as they just kept letting us use the fifth dimension for reference. She does point out that another issue with dimension jumping is having to leave friends in one dimension to go back to friends in another. Similar in a way to a book we reference about the story of a person who found themselves in the same situation. Tia wraps up our discussion by confirming the shortcut I have been using did work and explain why it worked as well. In short, the key is visualization. She then makes way for Kiri to take over and help with some sketching she had been doing in preparation for her time channeling. What she had been sketching and continue to sketch as we talked was designs for a greenhouse that Mark and I have been preparing to build. She has an engineer's mind which lends itself to the task of coming up with the most cost-effective design that will also stand up to the elements. She takes all elements into consideration in her designs and all were eventually implemented into a greenhouse we built. It makes for a great do-it-yourself greenhouse lesson.

As side two gets going, we get Kiri introducing Karra as both would be taking over Mark's body to allow Karra to just speak. What we go over is our continuing series on biology with the topic of the night being calmatives in all their various forms. We start with aspirin and its origins before moving onto those natural ingredients for calming a person when needed. What Karra does is remind me of when we did a healing on Carrie and how we used a blend of herbs to create a tea that helped in a couple different ways. What I had recently picked up was a book on healing with herbs and it had sparked an interest in how to use them in conjunction with the greenhouse. Her time is short though as we want to give Omal the needed space on the tape for his meta-concert dissertation. Following a transition ushered in by Tia, Omal takes his place in the channeling field and we get into one of his longest discussions on the matter so far recorded. He jumps right in to giving a demonstration on how a medic on the wood boost a person's energy who was the target if that was the perp this designated by the executive. With Omal's vast experience in meta-concerts, he doesn't need a group of individuals to boost my energy using a crystal in our room down here in conjunction with Mark's energy. Something he remarks on is a subject rarely mentioned which is aggressive meta-concerts. Not something for the inexperienced but the information provided explained how a loving meta-concert would be different. He explains how the male and female ratios would have to be adjusted for each type. He brings up an example of an aggressive meta-concert where two individuals took actions that were part of an oath. Omal gives a great explanation on the ethics of such a use of energy. We end up his time talking and pretty much the session with going over how powerful the merged minds of a cohesive group can be when working for a shared purpose. It's powerful knowledge best applied to the other meta-concert information in the archives. Tia just wrapped things up at the end with a bit of scheduling for future sessions.
 
In love, light, and wisdom as one,
Russ and Karra                                     

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SIDE ONE


(Tia gets things started with a serious question)


Tia: what does it mean to be a gentleman?

Russ: that would be a gentle male I guess?

Tia: that is total outer bunk. Never heard so much tosh. Do you want to know what my definition of a gentleman is?

Russ: of course I do.

Tia: okay. It's a person, a man, that treats women with respect, always does the right thing, never complains, listens to criticism, puts up with irresponsible persons, smiles when somebody makes some rash statement, doesn't fight back when somebody makes nasty, rude comments about the individual. Laughs at bad jokes, is always polite and courteous in society, always tries to do the right thing.

Russ: now is that for at least every single female?

Tia: every single female. I know some that do try.

Russ: oh aye, we try.

Tia: okay, down to business.

Russ: all right, let's get serious.

Tia: okay, at the end of the session we're going to work on your astral travel.

Russ: oh good.

Tia: okay? But to start off with we will start off with questions and answers to me. Whilst you look at your notes, I will continue with our program that we had planned for this evening. First of all we will do astral travel and then engineering and then herbalism and then finally meta-concert practice and construction on how to construct a meta-concert and then finally the practical on astral travel.

Russ: okay, fair enough. Okay. Now then, in astral travel, I've noticed that there are two kinds.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: one which I do and one which Mark does.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: now, being as I'm having most of my difficulty in going from one to the other, do you see it as..........I mean what I was talking about patience and all......?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: but for some reason I don't see the light at the end of the tunnel. All I see is just tunnel.

Tia: now what did I say a long time ago?

Russ: patience.

Tia: besides patience.

Russ: practice.

Tia: besides practice. It's one thing that I've always maintained.

Russ: ummm.

Tia: Karra's a good example. So is Kiri, Alana. I'm not a good example, neither is Lyka, neither is Athena. Okay, what differentiates.....

Russ: that's what I'm trying to figure out. Besides the fact that they're all Sirians would be one.

Tia: is Lyka not a Sirian?

Russ: ummm.....

Tia: the three that I had mentioned has one thing in common.

Russ: they're all from my side of the family?

Tia: come on, think, be serious.

Russ: ummm.

Tia: you're missing the blindly obvious......

Russ: I am and all I'm getting is that they're all tall. I mean......

Tia: am I tall?

Russ: no, that's what I mean.

Tia: is Athena tall? What differentiates Lyka, Athena and myself from Kiri, Karra......

Russ: and Alana.

Tia: and Alana.

Russ: you're all astral travelers.

Tia: correct.

Russ: I knew that part.

Tia: uh-huh. Now, why is it that we are better astral travelers than they are?

Russ: well, for the obvious reason is that you have that skill in abundance.....

Tia: correct.

Russ: right?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: and we've always said that it is doubtful I had it in abundance.

Tia: that's right. So don't be so despondent and disappointed. You may never be able to do D jumps like Mark which may be very fortuitous because what's happening to Mark's body?

Russ: well, before Mark did D jumps, he'd get out of his body, go travel to Europe or wherever he wanted to go to and he'd still be in not physical form but much more solid form than I'm getting.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: where's the difference there?

Tia: the fact is that Mark is an astral traveler.

Russ: right.

Tia: what are you strongest in?

Russ: healing......

Tia: correct.

Russ: and communication.

Tia: the primary function of an individual which would be in your case healing, right? And everything else is secondary, doesn't matter how good you are but your primary function is healing.

Russ: that's right.

Tia: it's all around you your equipment to heal.

Russ: so in other words, this is exactly what I have been saying all along. The fact that okay, I'm going to reach a peak and that's going to be it.

Tia: not necessarily.

Russ: okay. There's going to be higher points than that once in a while?

Tia: possibly yes, once in a while.

Russ: okay.

Tia: you have, how many good examples? Two good examples.

Russ: yeah?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: what examples?

Tia: of kids.

Russ: twins.

Tia: of course, yes, twins. Right, I count the Cubs as one sometimes.

Russ: well I don't, I count them as three.

Tia: well occasionally I'll go I've got the Cubs and that's one.

(Tia plays with a kitten)

Tia: hello. She's feisty.

Russ: so now, with that in mind......

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, then in other words, I should stop all the frustrations I'm going through......

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: because I always thought that I would get to Mark's point at some future point.

Tia: you probably could in some future......

Russ: future life maybe.

Tia: no, come on, think positive. That is your problem is that you're not thinking positively. You always have that doubt.

Russ: I know.

Tia: does Mark have any doubt in his ability?

Russ: he doesn't have to. He knows where he has to go.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: I unfortunately don't have that experience. Maybe I'll get to where I'm going but not in as physical as Mark and I....

Tia: it's typical.........I find it very entertaining watching you two sometimes. This boating thing of yours the prime example.

Russ: well that's just fun, we're just goofing around.

Tia: you're both very competitive to each other.

Russ: yeah, but it's not serious or nothing.

Tia: yes I know but what I'm saying is that there is some things that you excel in tremendously and are way better than him. And then there are things that Mark excels way better than you do.

Russ: much.

Tia: you're both eloquent communicators but can Mark sit down and have the patience to mess around with the computer whereas you do? Does Mark have the patience to sit down and listen to somebody complain on how bad their life is going and what's going wrong and the fact that they're not making enough money and they keep on losing their jobs but could you lend them some money and help them out of their problems? Does Mark have the patience for that.

Russ: no, I see what you're saying. Okay, so basically what we're looking at is the fact that I'll just keep maintaining and that positive attitude that I have, I know my ability.........

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: and I'll go ahead and push toward that ability to achieve what I want to achieve and at some point it's going to get better. Like for example today..........

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: I had a great astral travel session. It was only for a few minutes.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: but I did make translation from 3rd to 5th....

Tia: uh-huh and everything down there became very mute and hard to hear, correct?

Russ: right. Whereas my consciousness was going out.

Tia: yes but it was like a little bit foggy around the edges.

Russ: yeah. So basically, just try to push myself from that point there....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: but don't try to reach for things that are way out of my bounds like D jumps.

Tia: shoot for the stars, that's my goal, or that should be your goal rather. Mark does suffer from depressions due to the fact that he has to come back to going to where he works at nighttime and sitting down and being a night owl in the dark. It's not so much the loneliness. I've sat down and talked about it, it's the fact that he wants to be up here with all his friends and buddies but he doesn't want to leave down there permanently because he's got good friends and buddies down there.

Russ: well it reminds me of that book that we got, 2150, where John was able to translate up to 2150....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: but really didn't look forward to going back to 1975......

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: but knew that that was where his life was.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: he had the incentive to always be in 2150 so he always worked on improving himself in 1975 which is where I see us at right now. The carrot is in front of the donkey....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: and all we're doing now is we're pushing ourselves harder and harder to get that carrot.

Tia: uh-huh, okay. We've sidetracked from the main point.

Russ: okay. Now then, now with my going into my astral travel, the only way I've seen so far that I'm able to achieve that consciousness in fifth dimension perception is if I go ahead and translate directly from here to our room on Hades Base....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: with no transit times as far as going through and shutting off the things and see myself coming up because of the fact I go to sleep.

Tia: uh-huh. It's come to the point where things will be almost automatic, correct?

Russ: yeah, I just see myself there.....

Tia: I think that's a definite improvement.

Russ: yeah, well yeah because when I try it the other way now, it's too slow, I go right to sleep. So I have to see myself there and just make the jump for the perception change.

Tia: okay.

Russ: so now that's what I want to ask you about is that perception change. What is taking place during that if I can go from here and the next second I'm perceiving Hades Base?

Tia: what you're doing is you're actually working yourself up to it beforehand, correct?

Russ: right.

Tia: you go, "okay, I'm going to go see Mistress Longlegs....

(Russ laughs at that)

Russ: okay.

Tia: your body goes, "okay"and it starts doing all the problems, all the workout and your legs feel weak, correct?

Russ: yeah.

Tia: and that you have to lie down, what's happening?

Russ: but my body's automatically going through the same things.......

Tia: okay, so what you do is you're lying down, correct? And even when you're lying down you're already out of your body.

Russ: yeah.

Tia: right? Or, you have the feeling of that you're lying down, correct?

Russ: yeah.

Tia: right? And you feel all kind of..........things don't feel quite real.

Russ: right.

Tia: you close your eyes and you start to visualize, right? Now what you're doing is whilst you're visualizing is that you're actually traveling. And then for the first five minutes whilst you're there is Karra coaxing you and calling you and interacting with your subconscious and then finally.....

Russ: my consciousness pops out.

Tia: correct. Instead of visualizing is actually happening because you know the apartment so well, like down here, you have a pyramid, right there. You have a futon right here. You have a box, a black bookcase, people with pictures, but you see what I'm saying?

Russ: right. I'm visualizing my apartment up there....

Tia: uh-huh, do it the same way.

Russ: usually I come in to the same spot next to that bookcase over on the wall or I'll come in the pyramid.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: right. So I see what you're talking about. So I had problems thinking that what I was doing is actually astral projection.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: for me it just seems like I'm still conscious of what's going on down here, what I had for breakfast or something, for example.

Tia: uh-huh. But then all of a sudden, like you've been up there for five, ten minutes, right? You're no longer thinking of that.

Russ: right.

Tia: you're more focused on Karra's long legs and her........I suppose you could call that a skirt or whatever she's wearing.

Russ: okay, so that's all I wanted to get from you basically was the fact that okay, I'm achieving what I'm supposed to be doing. Okay good.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: so for me I like it.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: because I like to being able to just be there. So now knowing that, you and I can work on how to improve on that, right?

Tia: yes.

Russ: okay, because I want to let you know what I'm doing so that we can work on something like that.

Tia: carry on talking, even though Kiri's manipulating things, I can actually hear and see and feel what's going on.

Russ: oh, so that's why you're able to feel....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: because Kiri is helping with that.

Tia: yeah, she's going to get prepped up for her........this is very disconcerting you know.

Russ: you should look at it from my side.

Tia: well I'm trying to talk and Kiri's trying to control and look down and find her space for her sketch that she was doing. Okay? Now whilst I lose all focus. Okay, I'll pause the tape for her. Right, we will continue talking whilst Kiri draws for you. Okay?

Russ: okay, now then, in other matters concerning astral projection......

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: there is a point where I'm up there but I'm not really sure what I'm seeing, okay?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: it's like I'm not sure if it's my desire to see something is making me see it or if I'm really seeing it. So how you determine between the two?

Tia: by touching.

Russ: oh, by touching?

Tia: yes, reach out and touch her.

(Tia strokes the kitten as an example)

Tia: it's a little fuzzball.

Russ: our little fuzzball. I'm gonna start doing some usual astral projection, thing I'm doing now down here and start working on 3D.

Tia: what you can do to help is.......let me see.....what you can do to help.....hmm, a way to improve it, yes. A little experiment we ran this morning with my adorable daughter, or one of my adorable daughters, was that we were working on a program of visualization.

Russ: he told me.

Tia: oh, you were? What did he tell you?

Russ: imagine seeing what it is you'd like to see when you get there.

 Tia: uh-huh. And how that help? Well that is........now, what you do is look at that bookcase, right?

Russ: right.

Tia: now see see the books there, see all the stuff up there....

Russ: right.

Tia: right? The jars and the untidiness at the bottom there, right? And visualize......well see all that, keep your eyes open, but close them and over the top of that overlay something else. For example, a little pot of trees there plus what you actually see. See the green trees, see the pots that they're in, whether they're blue, green, purple, orange, red or tan, silver, key lime, see all those things..................okay, so you visualize and overlay it.

Russ: right.

Tia: okay?

Russ: yeah.

Tia: and I have a great idea for Kiri. That whilst we do the work up on your astral travel and the practical, she works on that. Okay, thank you Kiri. Yes, I am ring mistress, thank you. So, you overlay things over the top of it, okay?

Russ: (indistinguishable)

Tia: practice it first and you will see that it will help.

Russ: okay.

Tia: because it helps you with your visualization. That is the first step. If you're not a natural talent, we're using it as a way of boosting an individual's capabilities.

Russ: right, I'll practice soon.

Tia: uh-huh. Okay, I'm going to put on the next person.

Russ: okay.

(Tia exits humming Hava Nagila)

---

(Kiri goes old West at her entrance)



(Kiri makes sounds like she's spitting into a spittoon)

Kiri: yeah, that's better, isn't it....hmm?

Russ: okay darling......

Kiri: uh-huh?

Russ: all right, so we're discussing engineering.

Kiri: yes.

Russ: now in that respect we're talking about reprocessing?

Kiri: yes, so we will need pen and paper, again. Okay, right. You want to come over here so I don't have to keep on picking it up and showing it to you? Okay, there's the floor, right? This is the side view. If you remember, we were talking to Carrie about when she was doing plans, side view and so on. Okay, let us scale it down a little.......okay, side view and then will do a scale view. This would be a lot easier if I had a drafting tool but, you don't have one so I will improvise. Okay, now supports. Okay, there's one support and there's the other support there. So you do it in support sections. You have a support, right? Let's widen these to show them up easier. In fact it would be better to do it that way when you build. Now, the problem you're going to have is with wind, correct?

Russ: uh-hmm.

Kiri: so what you're going to do, right?

Russ: I assume you're using heavy-duty plastic for this.

Kiri: of course. Because the wind will make it act like a sail. Now you want to spread it out, right? But you want to have something to staple on.

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: for the roof, right? This is the side view. So what you do is you've got your clear plastic, right?

Russ: use your posts the same size as the other ones, right?

Tia: yeah. Don't worry about that. Okay? So that's your side view. Now let's do plans. Okay? This is a plan view. Keep talking so that there isn't dead space on the tape.

Russ: okay. Now there's going to be shelves inside this I assume?

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: okay, you have the two supports going up.

Kiri: that's why you've got the supports, you see?

Russ: so your shelves are going to be fitting onto supports for the shelves on each of those?

Kiri: right.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: you know I could have made it as an architect back home? Although it's very difficult with perception but this would be in the center actually. In fact, I think that's the center, that's the centerline over there. Yes it is, isn't it? Oh well. Yeah, nevermind. Okay, so you would have here, you would have your supports, right?

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: and this would be your back fence right here, okay? You would have a tree about here, another tree here, correct?

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: okay, so these are your roofing supports right here.

Russ: right.

Kiri: and then you would have your wall supports right there and there.

Russ: those are on the ground?

Kiri: well they'll be on the ground and there, right? And here. Now the top ones would also act as a gutter, right? Also you'd have downward supports coming down through there, right?

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: the strength in the roof again. You might want to run one diagonally across like that, okay? It'll give you extra strength on the roof. You see because you're going to have to worry about support of the snow or actually better still with doing this effect, right?

Russ: right.

Kiri: now, how to join those, let's do a little thing........here, you cut out a piece of wood like that and you would set another one on top.

Russ: right.

Kiri: okay?

Russ: all right, now where is the door?

Kiri: okay, the door would be right here, right? I believe that's how you do doors, correct?

Russ: close enough.

Kiri: so you would have the door right there, okay? And in actual fact it would be better if you had it so it swung on this side so let's cross that out and let's put the door here. Okay? That's better.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: okay? Now, for ventilation because it will get frightfully hot in there, you would let's go to the back view and I won't bother about doing side views, you already have side views, okay? I'll let you work out the measurements and everything. Or actually, ask Mark, Mark has a little bit of drafting skill.

(We hear something drop)

Kiri: what was that?

Russ: Mark's farsighting crystal.

Kiri: oh, tell him I'm sorry. I'll go fetch it in a second.

Russ: she's sorry Mark.

Kiri: yeah. So, this is what you would do, right. To make life nice and easy, what you would actually do is prefabricate it. Okay? Then you would put the door right there. Simple as that. Okay? So there's your door.

Russ: you were talking about ventilation, I assume we just keep the door open.

Kiri: not necessarily. What you do is you do a little square window here, right?

Russ: right.

Kiri: and you have it so it's hinged. Simple as that and you have one at each end so you get a draft through.

Russ: a square window in clear plastic.

Kiri: easy, piece of cake. Supports there and there.

Russ: right.

Kiri: simple.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: four supports, okay?

Russ: right. And so you have a window at each end?

Kiri: correct.

Russ: right, then you add the shelves.

Kiri: uh-huh. And your shelves would attach to the posts you see. You build your shelf, right? Here's your wall, right?

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: and you've got your support there, right? And the reason why I brought it out so you can actually see it, right? Okay, these are your wall supports here, right? There's your supports inside. You put the shelf on top like this and then you drive another piece down here and then you build these slats like this which is for drainage and so on. Okay, you got that?

Russ: no.

Kiri: why not, what's wrong?

Russ: this last part, slats, where do they go?

Kiri: they would go on the shelf, here.

Russ: oh I see, I see, I see. So it's going to drip down onto the plants below them.

Kiri: yeah, your plants up here in plants down there. You can do one section in here and have this with whatever you want there and then put in benches in there, you could make benches so that they can lift up and move out.

Russ: okay, now is this going to be on ground level so you're walking on dirt?

Kiri: I don't follow.

Russ: in other words, floor.

Kiri: yes, the floor would be on ground level.

Russ: so it would be all dirt you're walking on?

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: okay.

Russ: good job, looks good.

Kiri: right.

Russ: our fence....

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: is six foot high. You could probably look over it.

Kiri: and what is that supposed to mean?

Russ: just a towering achievement.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, now, if that's six foot high......

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and you want the door to be above your head......

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: that means the roof is going to start at the top of the fence level.

Kiri: not necessarily. If you have a look on the picture you'll notice that it's slightly angled, one side is higher than the other.

Russ: right?

Kiri: that's taking into consideration the back half of the fence being used possibly as part of the wall.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: saves on construction material.

Russ: all righty. Now then, there's going to be periods where shade is going to hit it, right?

Kiri: uh-huh. But the heat that's retained in there is going to be what keeps it going.

Russ: okay. And this isn't going to be used all year round.

Kiri: oh yeah, you can use it all year round. The thing is you have to make the angle steep enough that the snow just slides off. And if it does accumulate on there, all's you have to do is go out there and push.

Russ: right, but I mean the temperature inside the greenhouse in the wintertime is going to drop precipitously.

Kiri: correct.

Russ: and so any plants in there will tend to want to die.

Kiri: or go dormant. However, what you can do is you can put a heater in there. Or what you can do is you dig a ditch and you have a very long electrical cable.

Russ: all the way across the yard.

Kiri: correct but we can discuss that at a later time. But it will give delicate herbs an earlier start, the ones that you're going to plant year after year after year. And you can have things in there like sage that will be protected even though it will go dormant, it will still be protected and you can protect thyme in there and it will give it an earlier time to fire back up, okay?

Russ: right. That's it.

Kiri: okay. I believe this side is about to run out anyway which is very useful because we'll take a slight intermission and we'll get some fluid in him.

Russ: oh, tea.

Kiri: uh-huh. Yes, that will do. I believe there is some out there that is microwavable and is deliberately set up for this purpose.

Russ: I was thirsty.

Kiri: I'm Friday, pleased to meet you.

Russ: hmm, Robinson Crusoe.

Kiri: uh-huh. Do you know Robinson Crusoe was the only person that used to get his work done by Friday?


            

SIDE ONE ENDS

SIDE TWO


(Karra takes over with some help from Kiri and her body control of Mark)



Kiri: okay, we're going to make the field wider for the next person so that I can do (distinguishable) while she does the talking. Guess who it is?

Karra: hello.

Russ: hi.

Karra: I'm having the same problem that my sister had with tea just now. Yes, we're both fighting controls. You can tell what Kiri's doing and what I'm doing.

Russ: herbology.

Karra: herbology.

Russ: now your descriptions of the various........

Karra: okay, the calmatives here and the narcotics but nothing that is illegal such as cannabis.

Russ: now, where the name aspirin came from is based on a name.

Karra: actually, what you can do is look up aspirin in your dictionary and see who made it, who invented aspirin. I think his name was Aspirin.

Kiri: there was a movie I once saw where a young Einstein is being sent to the nut farm and he talks to this gentleman and the gentleman goes, "my name's Aspirin, I'm in for drugs, what are you in for?"

Russ: I haven't seen that movie.

Kiri: I think it's called young Einstein.

Russ: yeah, Mark's got it upstairs.

Kiri: it's funny, funny ha ha.

(Russ laughs)

Karra: be serious.

Kiri: but I am from Sirius.

Karra: hey, we're a double act.

Russ: I see.

Karra: Kiri and Karra show.

Russ: yes.

Karra: intelligent, genius.....

Russ: I was just looking up aspirin.

Karra: what you can look it up later.

Russ: okay.

Karra: okay, so let us continue.......

Russ: oh here it is. A light crystalline compound.......

Karra: derivative of.....

Russ: acetylsalicylic acid, used especially for anti diuretic and analgesic, it's got a weird formula there.

Karra: what does it say?

Russ: CH three COO, C.....

Karra: chemical compounds.

Russ: right.

Karra: what you do is you get out your periodic table and look up the chemical compounds. And you don't have a periodic table, do you?

Russ: well there is acetylsalicylic.

Karra: okay, so what we do is is we go with calmatives.

Russ: American elder....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: balm.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: Basil, Birch, black elder, buckwheat, chamomile, catnip, fennel......

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: fragrant valerian....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: garden thyme, ginger, lavender, mugwort, nettle, pennyroyal, we've got that, peppermint, we've got that, Primrose, radish, red eye bright, rose, rosemary, sage, savory.......

Karra: now, stop reading them....

Russ: okay.

Karra: right? And remember something that we did for Carrie.

Russ: what?

Karra: think back when she was here and what we got her to do. What did we make for her? What herbs were they?

Russ: basil, thyme, rosemary.....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: parsley.....

Karra: uh-huh. Sage.

Russ: sage.

Karra: and an assortment of mints and garlic.

Russ: well we certainly have enough things for a headache here.

Karra: uh-huh. Okay, but getting back to Carrie.

Russ: okay.

Karra: okay, what did we do for her?

Russ: well we made it tea out of it.

Karra: correct. Which did what? Two effects?

Russ: calmed her down.....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: and smelled good.

Karra: ummm......we'll get into aromatherapy later on, okay?

Russ: and......

Karra: calmed her down and it cured the aches and pains that she was suffering at the time if you remember.

Russ: true, I remember.

Karra: well it took it away from her, soothed her a little, made some things go away.

Russ: well that's easy.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, so we go ahead and.............anyway, I was looking through this book here, and under all those........

Karra: wait a second, we go ahead and what?

Russ: oh, go ahead and start doing all this fun stuff.....

Karra: go on.

Russ: anyway, I was looking through this book here and throughout all of the book there are........oh, in that section that said headache, all around that are symptoms and the herbs for them. Any symptom you had something like 20 herbs or more next to them.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: so, if all these herbs are used for.......I mean if all the same herbs are used for all these different things, how do you.........?

Karra: dosage. The more severe the symptom, the more the dosage.

Russ: right, but let's say you want to use rosemary.......

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: to deal with a headache?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: but rosemary it says is also good for cramps..........

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: okay.

Karra: but if you've got a headache and you take rosemary, you're not going to have cramps as well either.

Russ: so it's a cure-all?

Karra: correct. Now, talking of rosemary, I noticed that you have some out there that need attending to.

Russ: right, I was going to ask you about.....

Karra: yes, start plucking the lower branches, right? Just plop off the leaves and put them on a dry newspaper, right? Put them somewhere where they're going to dry and when they dry you grind them up.

Russ: all right, so with the mortar and pestle once these are dried, nothing needs to be done except wait.

Karra: and you can use them for cooking and so on.

Russ: now, with the advent of the greenhouse, then I can increase my supply of rosemary due to much larger amounts.

Karra: correct. And I think rosemary is hardy enough to survive up at your altitude, correct?

Russ: if it's indoors.

Karra: hmm. It won't survive outdoors?

Russ: not in the winter. In the summertime it survives great outdoors.

Karra: but it goes dormant during the winter, right?

Russ: right.

Karra: well that doesn't matter, you have sun indoors and sun outdoors. I believe you have a container that is usable for indoors, correct?

Russ: yes.

Karra: then use it.

Russ: well what I'm going to do is, I'm going to build an indoor greenhouse up against that window......

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: out back.

Karra: you just extend the bench then that you have there.

Russ: yeah.

Karra: okay, I've got to hand over to the next person.

Russ: sweet.

Karra: I believe this next part is going to take quite a while.

Russ: okay, thank you.

Karra: okay.

Russ: okay.

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(Tia returns to bring on the main speaker of the night)


Tia: okay, the reason why I cut Karra short as correctly said, this next part is going to take quite a while.

Russ: okay.

Tia: okay?

Russ: fair enough.

Tia: so we've got to sit Mark out so it will be easier for communication and so on.

Russ: right.

Tia: now, you will need energy crystal.

Russ: okay. Got it.

Tia: okay? Right, I'm going to warm it up and.......or rather put it in Mark's hands to warm up and set the process in motion for it to be ready whilst we change over.

Russ: okay.

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(Omal enters the channeling field for a long meta-concert dissertation)



Omal: greetings and felicitations Russ.

Russ: greetings Omal.

Omal: and how are you doing?

Russ: real well.

Omal: okay, let us proceed with the end of a dissertation from the dissertation last week to round up our discussion on meta-concert.

Russ: okay.

Omal: now, having constructed your meta-concert and decided what program you're going to be running, how you wish to run it, the components necessary, you now select a target. Now, what I will do is I will do a dry run due to the fact that I believe the crystals are about the personage of Mark at the moment and we do not want to erase his astral travel crystal. Okay, let us say you are using a focusing stone or focusing crystal. You hold it in your hands. The reason why we're using the energy crystal at this time is so that you can actually demonstrate feeling the energy. Okay, now how are you really feeling?

Russ: really feeling? Is......

Omal: a bit tired?

Russ: yeah, just a little bit.

Omal: okay, sit there Russ. Okay, now you will feel the energy and let us assume you are the focusing target. And the only thing that you feel at this time would be the energy coming from the crystal into yourself. Now, having constructed the meta-concert as I have said, deciding on the purpose of the meta-concert, you will select your target. The target being in this case Russ Hatfield. Now you select the strength of energy that you wish to send in that direction. In this case, what we are doing is increasing the power directed at Russ to increase his energy so he is no longer disoriented.

Russ: okay.

Omal: you power up the crystal, this is my own personal technique with it at the center of the chest and arms. Select the target, locked, you let the energy flow down your arms in the case of energy being fired and directed at the individual. And the energy will come out of the crystal thus supplying it spread out over the auric field around the individual. You feel it?

Russ: felt it in my legs.

Omal: okay, let us tighten this up. What do you feel now?

Russ: I'm feeling stronger.

Omal: okay. Now the function of doing that is to increase your energy. It is spread out over your auric field. Now we're using Mark's energy for this exercise and what we did was use his natural energy, focused it and fired it in your direction which had a twofold purpose. It has energized you. The second purpose is to what? By using Mark's energy, if he ever learns how to focus it like I did, what occurred?

Russ: no idea.

Omal: you feel happy, contented, and energized.

Russ: right.

Omal: this is something very important. It will be in our next discussion. Our next discussion that we do next week will be shielding. And that was Mark's energy. He's quite capable if he figures out how to focus it directed, he could have penetrated your shield. You have fancy shields which he would slice through like butter. But meta-concert. Now, you construct your meta-concert, you select your target, you take aim, you fire. Now, there are different types of energy that you can use. For example, if you use an energy like I used which is just a warm, fuzzy energy, that warms up the individual, distributes energy, it flows over them. If you use a laser focused energy, the way that it works is when you fire energy at somebody to help them increase their circulation, you use a red color. A more hostile laser is either white or blue. So there is one that is red, two that is white and blue. Why the difference? The difference would be the fact that red signifies warmth whereas white signifies cold as does blue. Directing a white laser beam at a target is a way of stopping the target. Firing a blue laser beam is a way of challenging your target. You select a target, then you fire a blue beam at them and they should move. You want to get away from them. Other purposes of a meta-concert, healing. That is Karra's field and I'm sure she will deal with it and address it at a later time. She is also addressed it in the past. Psychokinesis, moving things. Or psycho kinetics and their various functions can be used in a meta-concert. Manifestations, again, you can use that in a meta-concert. You can use manifestation in combination with various things. Manifestation can be used with PK and healing.

Russ: how about shielding?

Omal: shielding also. So by constructing the meta-concert, it has many viable functions. Then, after the session is over, depending on the amount of time that you have, I suggest that you do a twofold meta-concert basically of two individuals. You will select yourself as the executive, that is what you have done in the past, and then you use Mark as the conductor. Now, what we want you to do is to ignite a candle and Mark will collect and send the energy to you. Now we don't want you to go to terminating the candle, your purpose will be to move the flame in a predetermined direction. Okay? Now energy in a meta-concert is energy. It depends on what kind of meta-concert you are using. If you are using a meta-concert that is constructed for peaceful purposes, it doesn't really matter how many male to female ratio you're going to have. If you construct a meta-concert in a hostile mode, you will want more males, less females. However there are some females that are just as aggressive if not even more aggressive than males. If you're doing a very, very peaceful, lovey-dovey type of meta-concert, you would use more women than men. But it depends on the abilities of the individuals. For example, you have an incredibly powerful healer that is a male that does not need as many females. So it depends more on the individuals that are being used. For example, if you were to take Linda and with a little bit of practice, she has an extreme ability to be quite aggressive at times. So therefore, should she be used in a meta-concert for healing or a meta-concert for exterminating things, it doesn't really matter that point. Take for example an incident that happened back in March. An individual that is known to be not a particularly nice individual selected by two individuals and they used their abilities in their various forms to locate to cause harm to the individual. Have you ever taken an oath?

Russ: no.

Omal: then it is necessary to understand taking an oath first.

Russ: okay.

Omal: that is why it is necessary to look at the big picture is what good will it achieve? Obviously the case that was described, your legal system failed to do what it was supposed to do. The individual committed a crime again later with another girl that he previously committed with his own daughter. So therefore, not only did he commit the sin of pedophile but of also incest.

Russ: right.

Omal: and then he went on and committed another sin with another young lady. In that situation, it is necessary to take actions.

Russ: now, for me though, I saw it as being part of a flawed nation.

Omal: whether or not it was flawed, his actions, or the actions of both gentlemen were commendable and they did what they believed to be correct. And that they use their abilities to deal with an individual is a potential harmful threat. Not only is this individual a pedophile, but he is also a very corrupt coercer. He has destroyed a marriage which is more and more evident. He has used his abilities for his own personal gain, so therefore, what must be done? It must be stopped. And in itself, that is a learning experience for the two individuals. In the junior individual's case, it was, would he break and oath and go, "no, I will not do this" and therefore maybe then himself to have to take the oath again. Or, by obeying his oath, would he commit the sin of doing something wrong to right a wrong? So therefore it is a Catch-22. Which is the lesser of the two evils? No matter which way the individual went, they would be harm done. How does he deal with it is the solution.

Russ: what about the karmic implications that we're talking about? Hostile actions used with a meta-concert?

Omal: hostile actions with a meta-concert? It depends on what the overall outcome is to achieve. If it is to achieve a good goal, then by destroying maybe one or two individuals, it will do good. However, by destroying good individuals it does harm. So you have to decide whether or not the individuals are doing good or bad. You have to stand back and weigh the odds and the only person that can do that is the executive. Is he doing the correct job that he is supposed to be doing? Is he doing it for good, his own personal gains, or is he doing it believing what he is doing is right when in actual fact it is wrong. A good example of a meta-concert that is designed for good when in actual fact is bad is the famous rallies of Nuremberg. They were designed to do good, or that was perceived good by the individual. But, it depends on what the overall picture is. You have to remember that in constructing a meta-concert, the individuals that construct it believing that it is for good always believe that is for good. Take for example, Mr. Adolph Hitler. He did not believe what he was doing was wrong.

Russ: right.

Omal: so therefore in his opinion it was good. So you have to look at the overall outcome of what is going to happen or what you wish to happen and see if what you wish to have is good or bad.

Russ: okay let's take a theoretical case in which you got the executive determined that they're going to use a meta-concert but not everyone is in agreement with the moral implications that he is saying? Are those people should possibly stay out of the meta-concert?

Omal: yes. You have to remember if you have eight individuals, the sum of the parts are more powerful together than just as individuals. Mesh them altogether. Let's say you have.....let's use the scale of one to a hundred. Everybody is 90, correct? You have 10 individuals, that is 900. However with meta-concerts, it's not quite like that. With a meta-concert, you would have 900 strength individuals but in actual fact it is more like 1500, almost twice as much with the individuals involved. That is because it is more focused and the strength of the energy being pulled in is multiplied by the individuals in the meta-concert by approximately a factor of 1.5. Okay, now, getting back to little practice after the session is over depending on how much time you have. What you do is ignite a candle, you fire it up, Mark collects the energy from the felines spread of one of the two which will give him practice on collecting energy. You use an energy crystal as a fallback. That way you can also have energy in your hands. Okay, now I will put Tia back on. Live long and prosper, engage. One to beam up. Aye Capt., I'd like to, but you're on the wrong Enterprise.

(Russ laughs)

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La la la la la, la la la la la la. La la la la la, la la la la la la.

Russ: it's Tia.

Tia: yes. Oh yes, we're going to have to do that again due to the fact of Omal's experiment because that would take another half-hour. I would've wandered off and made myself useful. Straighten things up, I'd do the dishes so they're all nice and neat and I would come back. I was going to put you into an astral travel state. But, because of Omal's experiment, we can't do it. Now we havet Carrie the week after to work with. Perhaps if we move Carrie to the last week of channeling, the current channeling months........?


 
THE TAPE ENDS