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ONE
(Tia is on briefly to get a busy session started)
Tia: so, you're having a channeling session next
week with.....
Russ: Carrie.
Tia: Carrie and Jolene here.
Russ: right.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: and Carrie's got a special question for you.
Tia: yes, what is it?
Russ: you're going to find out next week.
Tia: what is it?
Russ: she needs your permission for something.
Tia: what is it?
Russ: she told me not to tell you. She better ask.
Tia: okay.
(Tia takes a heavy sigh)
Russ: nothing I can do dear.
Tia: okay. Let me see if I can do this. See if I can
do a Kiri. I think that will......oh, that's your
recording device and what's this? Oh, that's
your.....
Russ: the phone.
Tia: yes, your communication device.
Russ: right.
Tia: yes?
Russ: I left a whole page of questions for everybody
at work.
Tia: ah-hah.......sucker.
Russ: oh well.
Tia: oh, I see them right there.
Russ: oh great, pull them up my darling, please.
Tia: okay, let's get the heavies out of the way
first.
Russ: okay.
(Omal uses up the whole side for
his time channeling)
Omal: greetings and felicitations. Welcome Jolene,
welcome Russ.
Russ: hello Omal.
Omal: greetings.
Russ: greetings. Okay.....
Omal: yes.
Russ: I left all my questions at work.
Omal: yes, we are aware of this little bit of a
problem of yours.
Russ: well that's all right, I got my notes all
taken but just special questions.
Omal: do you have a special cloth for blowing your
nose?
Russ: yes.
Omal: perhaps you should tie a knot in it.
Russ: thank you, I appreciate that.
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: all right, I'm gonna leave that to you on when
to call Raya.
Omal: okay. I believe now would be a good time.
Russ: right
Omal: in the meantime, whilst Russ dials the
numbers, do you have some questions for me?
Jolene: no.
Omal: no.
Jolene: not off the top of my head.
Omal: anything you can think of off the off the top
your head?
Russ: hi Raya. Yeah, we're all hooked up. Hang on,
let me put you on the speakerphone.
Omal: okay.
(We hear Russ put the phone into the cradle)
Russ: yo Raya? Raya?
Raya: yes, I'm here.
Russ: oh good.
Omal: greetings to felicitations Raya.
Russ: can you hear that okay?
Raya: very faintly.
Russ: all right, let me move this around here. Okay,
go for that.
Omal: greetings and felicitations Raya.
Raya: well yes, greetings to you.
Omal: and how are you functioning?
Raya: well, I feel fairly well.
Omal: that is good, that is good. Now I understand
you have some questions for us.
Raya: yes, who am I speaking to?
Omal: Omal.
Raya: who?
Omal: Omal.
Raya: Omal.
Omal: that is correct.
Raya: okay Omal, how about sometime channeling
through me?
Omal: do you feel ready for it?
Raya: I feel ready for it anytime. I've always felt
ready for it.
Omal: okay, at your convenience when the time is
right and we have a good communication link we will
do so.
Raya: okay. This is a great experience for me.
Omal: yes, it is an unusual way of communicating.
Raya: yes, and I'm so happy for Russ and Mark and
their achievements with you and Korton. It's a very
new, something most people know about I think.
Omal: oh, it is a matter of time and patience for
the word to be, how you would say, spread?
Raya: spread?
Omal: the words to be spread of our existence and
our aid.
Raya: I see. Would you advise me to learn to travel
as Mark and Russ do?
Omal: yes, it would be useful. That's why it would
be easier for us to link with you to be able to
channel through you.
Raya: quite a time to learn it though, isn't it? It
takes quite a while?
Omal: hmmm, even if you learn only the few basic
steps, it is a start down the road for future
reference.
Raya: oh, I clearly don't know anything about it
except what Mark wrote to me about what? Two or
three years ago.
Omal: it is never too late to start to learn to
travel. It is harder admittedly when you are more
set in your ways but the ways are there to be broken
for advancement. To break the old bonds and to
reestablish new ones so that you can advance at a
more rapid pace.
Raya: I see. Well, question I have, I've been told
by different channels that I've not even started my
real mission in this body yet. Can you tell me what
the mission is and how do I get about getting it
started?
Omal: well you have a eloquence for communication.
That you are very eloquent when you talk and you
have a lot of self-confidence.
Raya: yes?
Omal: that is a clue to your mission in life. And
putting yourself in a situation where you suddenly
find that you are using your skill for
communication.
Raya: well, you are familiar with when I helped to
train Russ here in my home so he can channel. Are
you not?
Omal: yes I am.
Raya: and so that's the way that I only way I know
to do for myself even.
Omal: hmm, it is a start, a step on the road. As we
said at the time that channeling that way is a step
down a longer road to travel.
Raya: well, I tried it quite a lot and just recently
when a lady that had masculine energy, then I can go
very high. And my body though shakes and shakes and
trembles all over and it's very stressful for me but
I can see things and then I can hear okay, it comes
to me. But this is not what my mission is, is it?
Omal: hmm, that is your choice. We can only suggest
possible avenues for you to proceed down.
Raya: well, is my mission the ascension of myself
that I'm to accomplish? An accomplishment in which I
can use here in this body?
Omal: yes.
Raya: is that it.
Omal: yes.
Raya: okay, I needed to know the answer to that.
Omal: okay, the mission that you need to do is your
decision. You make the mission. It is a subconscious
choice which will come into your mind, into your
conscious and you will know at the time when it
comes that that is what you want to do. That is what
your mission is.
Raya: okay, because I've been a long time that I
feel like I'm not doing anything.
Omal: patience.
(Raya chuckles)
Raya: I know the answer to that, the answer to
patience is wait.
Omal: yes.
Raya: what connections have I had with the ones of
your planet Hades that caused me to be involved with
Roger and Russ?
Omal: they are past life connections.
Raya: what was that? Oh, past life connections.
Omal: correct.
Raya: uh-huh.
Omal: it is a little bit like a cloth. There are
many threads all going in the same direction that
cross and twist and intertwine throughout many yards
of the cloth and life and existences are like that.
Raya: uh-huh.
Omal: the way that you could describe past lives and
present and future lives is that it is a huge piece
of cloth which stretches on indefinitely.
Raya: I see. I think I understand that. In other
words, I've been on many, many planets.
Omal: many existences.
Raya: yes, uh-huh. I don't understand the Russ and
Mark having children and several wives and things
like that on the other planet because it seems more
or less that it seems that we who have suffered here
on this planet for hundreds of years to evolve, that
we should be the ones to produce the children to
start this race over again.
Omal: the hybrids that have been created here are a
very necessary key to what will become in the
future. Whether it is a hundred or a thousand years
down the road, the hybrids are the key to your
planet's existence.
Raya: well, we are mutants, right? Mutants?
Omal: oh, mutants?
Raya: yes, and aren't they...well, they will also be
mutants.
Omal: correct, it is a natural progression from
radiation of your sun that makes your species
mutate. And with the hybrids, they are the next
logical step in your planet's evolution. If you look
back to the Neanderthals and back further, there are
changes which are created which are mutations for
the next step in your evolution. And the same is
with your planet's future. There is an evolution
going on and the hybrids are a very important key.
Not necessarily on the third dimension, there are
more guardians of the planet. The planet's soul and
the souls of the individuals that travel and ascend
to higher dimensions. Unfortunately, they have a
very tough time ahead of themselves when they become
mature because of their very function that they have
chosen for themselves, they have a tough existence.
So the little pleasure that they have in their youth
must be relished by them and nurtured by the people
that help them.
Raya: well, where do the souls come from for them?
Omal: they are ascended souls that have ascended
recently. They are entities that have had
experiences on other planets that have been in your
past life, Russell's past life, Mark's past life and
even Jolene's past life and a few others. And they
have taken it upon themselves the feeling that they
are ready to achieve the necessary aid that they
once received from your planet and they are
returning the compliment. The favor that was once
bestowed upon them, they are now returning not a
hundredfold but a thousandfold.
Raya: well, you mean they have ascended and yet
they're preparing to come in physical bodies now?
Omal: they are ascended to the fifth dimension as
opposed to the normal ascension to the sixth
dimension.
Raya: oh, I see. Well, isn't the planet then...or us
that ascend now, aren't we going into the fifth
ascension?
Omal: they will be going into the sixth.
Raya: oh.
Omal: Russell, do you wish to get that?
Russ: no.
Omal: okay.
Russ: cancel.
Raya: hmm?
Omal: oh, there is a slight communication problem
but it is nothing to be concerned with.
Raya: you mean between this connection?
Omal: it appears that there is a beeping sound every
so often.
Raya: oh.
Russ: yeah, someone's trying to call in, I'm
ignoring it. My call waiting system.
Omal: that is not a problem.
Russ yeah.
Omal: but I was saying that the individuals that
have selected this new task to guide your planet,
they may in the future come in physical forms to
your planet but they may decide that it is best to
work from where they are. As for those that ascend
from your planet, they will ascend to the sixth
dimension and work from the fifth so they will have
to be transported from the sixth to the fifth which
is a working space.
Raya: uh-huh.
Omal: so that the function of the entities that are
born onto the fifth dimension is different from
those that will be on a higher dimension and descend
to the fifth dimension.
Raya: is there something that you can tell me that
would be very beneficial for me to know now?
Omal: yes. Be prepared for a time of difficulty to
your nation.
Raya: yes?
Omal: not necessarily internal struggle although
there may be some of that coming and I believe that
Sedona will be one of those places which will be
safe.
Raya: where will be that that will be safe?
Omal: Sedona will be safe. Your area will be safe
from internal strife but there will be the problem
of those fleeing from the internal strife. It won't
be a large-scale internal strife like a revolution,
it will be more along the lines of cities rioting.
Raya: yes.
Omal: and people will move away from the cities.
Raya: yes.
Omal: so there may be a little bit of overcrowding
in the smaller communities.
Raya: uh-huh.
Omal: and like the original people that came to
Atlantis, they will bring the problem with them. So
it may be necessary to be prepared in a fiscal sense
as well as in a sense of security.
Raya: well how would one going to prepare for that?
Do we get out away from.....or move to little towns
or something? We'll be sitting ducks if we go by
ourselves out, won't we?
Omal: it is best to sit tight and just prepare
yourself mentally for the change.
Raya: I see.
Omal: by being prepared mentally, you cannot be
caught unawares.
Raya: yes. But there's nothing we can really do, is
there?
Omal: well, there isn't but be prepared is something
that you can do.
Raya: I see, yeah. Where would be the best place for
this many people that go out into these communities
and gather there, those are no safer than the little
towns, are they?
Omal: the little towns tend to be more restrictive
on newcomers. They tend to watch them very
cautiously. It may be advisable to point out when
the newcomers come, because they will be coming from
places like Los Angeles, San Francisco, and they
will be coming from towns like these from the
coastal areas where the internal strife is
occurring.
Raya: well, we have it here in Sedona right now
where these people are moving in. They've been
moving in for the past two years, mostly from
California.
Omal: yes, but it will become a much more of a
deluge when the internal strife, which my estimate
will be sometime in the next three years occurs,
these people will start to come in a more increasing
wave. It may be necessary to store food because they
will be like locusts on your stores.
Raya: yes. It's not proper though to prepare with
guns and things like that, is it?
Omal: self-defense is your decision. If you wish to
do so, then that is your choice. If you wish not to,
that is also your choice. I can neither say yes or
no. It is what feels right to you and what will
benefit you in the long run on a spiritual level as
well as a physical level.
Raya: uh-huh.
Omal: myself personally, the use of force is only a
last resort.
Raya: yeah, but force will never work, will it?
Omal: yes it does as a last resort. Did not force
end your second great planetary war?
Raya: well, all I know about the Indians and the
Americans here, they used force and that didn't
work. It wasn't right I don't think.
Omal: it wasn't right but it worked for the karma to
create a new mind of thinking. The Indians are now
becoming respected and their spiritual ways are
becoming sought after.
Raya: yes.
Omal: so, in the long run, it was harsh for them but
now they have more power in the spiritual sense than
they ever had.
Raya: oh?
Omal: so it is a long roundabout road but the
Indian's spirituality is becoming more.
Raya: hmm, well, I have a friend who teaches the
Indians, he's a college teacher?
Omal: uh-huh.
Raya: and so many of the Indians are alcoholics and
so many of them are on drugs. Of course I only see I
guess and hear parts of them, not probably a big
bunch.
Omal: it is a minority but a large minority that
have this affliction. It is those that cannot adjust
to society's change. The people of the medicine
profession in the Indian community are becoming more
powerful and more knowledgeable on how to manipulate
not only their medicine, but also as you would say
the white man.
Raya: I see, hmm. Okay, can you tell me some
more......or something about myself that I should
know?
Omal: hmm, you shouldn't worry too much about things
that are out of your control such as transportation.
Sometimes walking is very good for you.
Raya: uh-huh.
Omal: the exercise is very necessary and it helps
you to be more restful when you decide that it is
time to sleep.
Raya: I see. Well I can go for that. I mean, I see
where you are right on that because I don't exercise
very much.
Omal: no. From where I am inhabiting at the moment
the body I'm inhabiting?
Raya: yes.
Omal: I can see two individuals that could do with a
little bit more exercise from time to time.
(Everyone chuckles)
Raya: I have a bike in my bedroom, one of these
exercise bikes.....
Omal: yes.
Raya: and I started to use that. Now, I don't like
to go out in the exhaust and among the other people
to exercise so I'm trying to do it in the house on
the bike. Is that still okay?
Omal: a bicycle, a stationary bicycle is okay as a
backup to a good physical exercise. Depending on the
type of bicycle you have depends on the type of
workout that you get.
Raya: yeah, put there that I put in it.
Omal: not too much as it only strengthens your legs
and your heart whereas you need to strengthen all of
your body by walking. When you swing your arms......
Raya: yes.
Omal: you are exercising your arm muscles and your
chest muscles. Whereas when you're sitting down on a
bicycle, you're just exercising your heart and your
legs.
Raya: well I usually swing my arms too in rhythm to
music that I play at the same time but it's probably
not as much.
Omal: no, it is, what is the word? Working up a
sweat?
Raya: oh, I see, okay.
Omal: yes. Although to start off with, it is best to
take it slowly.
Raya: uh-huh, especially for an old lady.
Omal: yes. But old is in the mind.
Raya: and in the body. How can I handle the heat
that was on last summer? I was perspiring so bad and
it just took all of my energy.
Omal: hmmm, increase your water intake and I believe
your indigenous population of the plains of your
continent? They would soak things in water and wear
them. Maybe a hat that is soaked in water would give
off water vapor that would keep you cool.
Raya: I see, okay.
Omal: but an increase water intake and maybe salt
tablets to replace the salt that you sweat off which
makes you tired and turned would also help.
Raya: I see. Water? What did you call it? Water
pills?
Omal: salt pills, salt tablets.
Raya: salt tablets?
Omal: yes, they will help you replace the salt that
you sweat out.
Raya: oh, okay.
Omal: and also possibly a hat that has been soaked
in water.
Raya: uh-huh, yes, I got that.
Omal: uh-huh.
Raya: so I don't want to run a big bill up here for
these wonderful people.
Russ: it's all right, we're sharing it tonight, me
and Mark so......
Raya: what was that?
Russ: Mark and I are going to be sharing in this
bill so it's not gonna be too bad. We got time.
Raya: oh, okay. Well, tell me some more and could
you tell me about Roger? How is he doing?
Omal: Roger is doing fine. We have been in contact
with him through his guide. He's aware of the
planetary changes that are coming.
Raya: uh-huh.
Omal: he may be coming back into your life although
it is a crossing of paths that will be temporary. A
retouching of old acquaintances.
Raya: I see.
Omal: but that is undecided at this time on what
avenue he wishes to pursue.
Raya: I see. Okay, so about this essential thing, is
this what my mission is or is it something else?
Omal: I can't really answer that because if I say
yes or no then it will have you shooting off in a
direction when you're not quite fully prepared yet.
Raya: okay, I was shown when I was in the higher
consciousness as I call it the other day, I went up
and I was shown a log building and a place over by
lakeside here in Arizona....
Omal: uh-huh.
Raya: where I was told that I had a community
center, a spiritual community center in a past life
there. Can you tell me if that was correct?
Omal: that is correct.
Raya: well now, I have an opportunity to start it
again with no money, only to start to get a little
bit of the land. But I've turned it down because I
feel like that's not what I'm supposed to do. And I
don't know but I feel like what I'm supposed to do
is prepare myself for the ascension. But I don't
know because I'm not helping anybody I don't think.
Omal: yes you are. By communicating with people in
everyday life, you are helping them. You are
educating them by your actions, your beliefs, and
the way that you interact with them.
Raya: well there's very few people anymore in
comparison to what they're used to be. I'm beginning
to think that that's been stopping so what am I
going to do now?
Omal: maybe restart what you once had. It is
necessary to find a person or maybe you can start
channeling.
Raya: I might be able to now I don't know. But I've
tried for years and they told me it wasn't, well I
just couldn't do it. But I do know if I could get
someone to sit with me that helped me, I feel like
it's a need of a battery.
Omal: yes, you need somebody that has high energy.
Raya: yes, and there's very few of them it seems
like that is compatible with my energy.
Omal: the person will come soon that has the energy
supply. I understand that channeling can be very
stressful on the human body if it is done for long
periods of time.
Raya: yes.
Omal: so that you need a external energy source to
be able to use. So that person that you will be able
to use as an energy source will be coming soon, you
will meet them.
Raya: oh great.
Omal: and from there a word-of-mouth will happen.
Raya: uh-huh.
Omal: but it is your choice.
Raya: okay. So that would be really something
because it seems like I've been twiddling my fingers
here for a long time really not doing anything
because I haven't had anybody that is interested to
the extent that I'm spiritual..........
Omal: uh-huh.
Raya: and that can help me climb too.
Omal: sometimes a rest from the spirituality is
necessary as it can be very overwhelming.
Raya: I see.
Omal: and the lack of activity on this is also a
lesson in patience.
Raya: yes. That I've been accused of many times for
being impatient.
Omal: so it is a lesson in itself.
Raya: I see.
Russ: well Raya, what about some of the old group
that was meeting with Roger and us?
Raya: they seem to have left town an awful lot of
them. They scattered and I have no idea where any of
them are. They've all gone but O'Ryin who publishes
this wonderful paper, the Sedona emergence? They
seem to all be gone.
Omal: what we are doing other work elsewhere. How we
people were in your group and then think how we
people have they interacted and mentioned what you
have taught them?
Russ: that's true.
Raya: well, for many people it didn't seem to want
to listen to anything I had to say. I tried a group
here last year. They went about a year but they were
very dogmatic and they got tired, they didn't want
to progress. They seemed to think they knew it all.
And so I stopped that because they just went into
philosophy and talking about their families and
things and I wanted them to work in the group and
advance. So they got tired of it. They went as far
as they could go I guess. Well I'd have to start
another group, would you advise that?
Omal: yes, that would be advisable but it is
necessary to sort very carefully on who is suitable.
Raya: yes, maybe but I'd have to get out then to
circulate I guess in order to contact people.
Omal: yes, it would be useful.
Raya: okay.
Omal: circulation is necessary to spread the word.
Raya: yes. There's so many people here in Sedona
that are trying to make money spiritually and
there's competition with each other and they're
doing all kinds of things so each one, they're not
too interested in what I'm interested in. Like
evolving?
Omal: yes.
Raya: I want to get out and do healing on people and
lecture to them in groups. And I've gone to some of
their lectures and to me, they're nothing.
Omal: there are more of of a sideshow.
Raya: yes.
Omal: so maybe one out of ten of these individuals
is worth communicating with. The other ten need to
learn. They are still very third dimensional in
their thinking of fiscal advancement. Although
fiscal advancement is useful and it does help you to
be able to be comfortable and to continue your work,
it is also necessary to be able to blend the higher
thinking with the fiscal interaction.
Raya: I think the younger people are the better
ones. They're more willing to learn where the older
ones which I had in my group, were not too willing
to learn. They figured they knew it all, all they
wanted to do was talk about what they'd studied.
Also, what we did do in the group though was do
exorcisms on entities, correct? Yeah.
Omal: uh-huh.
Raya: going to the subconscious and take out the
blocks and many of them had entities in them.....
Omal: uh-huh.
Raya: I guess that's what you would call it, I don't
know. Maybe it was their own thought patterns.
Omal: that is more likely that it is their own
thought patterns. For an entity to inhabit somebody
else's body, it requires cooperation from the
individual.
Raya: yeah.
Omal: for an entity to be permanently entrenched in
the subconscious is very, very unusual.
Raya: oh, I see.
Omal: and it is normally a symbiotic relationship
which is beneficial for both parties. And they
normally open up parts of the mind that cannot be
entered into normally.
Raya: uh-huh.
Omal: so, it is more the subconscious of these
individuals that were blocking their advancement.
Raya: yes. But we would go into their past
lives......
Omal: uh-huh.
Raya: and see things that they had done and those
that done something to them and asked for
forgiveness and then they would be cleared.
Omal: it is asking forgiveness from themselves.
Raya: yes, uh-huh. Or who they had done something
to.
Omal: yes.
Raya: can you tell me what is wrong with my oldest
daughter? Her name is Clydette?
Omal: uh-huh.
Raya: and I'm sure either there's another one, she's
a walk-in or else she's possessed or something
because my daughter is not there.
Omal: it is possible that she has retreated inside
herself and is trying to resolve an internal problem
and her subconscious has come out to take over. And
the subconscious and conscious can be two totally
different identities of one individual.
Raya: well she doesn't seem like her old self at
all.
Omal: that is possibly the subconscious becoming the
conscious.
Raya: I see.
Omal: and it is possible that there is a walk-in
involved. It depends on what type of walk-in it is.
Whether it is an alien or a spirit. A spirit would
be more of a possession whereas a walk-in would be
an alien manipulating from elsewhere like a puppet.
Raya: well, she really dislikes me very much given
that she's very jealous of me.
Omal: uh-huh.
Raya: and it used to be that she would love me
greatly at one moment and then days later or weeks
later she was very jealous and would do unusual
things to hurt me.
Omal: uh-huh.
Raya: and finally she just hangs up on me on the
phone and not talk to me anymore. And so there's for
no reason that I can know of. There's nothing really
happening and she tells me stories and she's very
deceitful and things like that that she didn't used
to be.
Omal: it sounds like there's a little bit of
possession going on.
Raya: possession?
Omal: a little bit. It doesn't sound as if it's
totally controlled but at certain times the
possession comes out. But it is nothing to be overly
concerned with as it sounds more as if the entity is
using her to get at you because of the past.
Raya: well yes, I would say so.
Omal: so it is more making peace with the entity
that is possessing her or it is possible that the
entity will eventually get bored when you do not put
yourself in its grasp, it will get bored and move
away and will realize that it's wasting its time.
Raya: well, she doesn't want to work. She doesn't
feel it's necessary to work and I have no idea how
she is living at all. She's not with boyfriends....
Omal: uh-huh.
Raya: she doesn't seem to have friends as far as I
know and when I have her here living with me, she
would get between me and my friends. She was always
telling them that she was a yogi and trying to teach
them yoga and that I was all wrong in all of my
teachings. And it was too much of a stress for me so
I had to ask her to leave. And so she was on
unemployment for a couple of years but now I don't
how she's living. And none of the family seems to
know how she is living and she doesn't confide in
anybody.
Omal: hmm, that sounds like it is a tricky
situation.
Raya: it is.
Omal: I do not know what to recommend at this time
apart from again, patience.
Raya: well, right now, we haven't spoken since about
the fourth of July. So I feel that it's a relief for
me trying to get along with her because it seemed
impossible. All I could do was just let her do
whatever she wanted to and not argue with her. Let
her have her own way.
Omal: yes, it is a matter of learning.......her
learning how to deal with these problems.
Raya: well yes, apparently there's nothing I can do
that I know of. She's lived with several different
people and they all wouldn't have her anymore.
Omal: I think she is about to learn that things are
going to change. That she needs to learn fiscal
responsibility that you cannot have spirituality
without fiscal responsibility.
Raya: uh-huh.
Omal: to exist, you need to be able to buy yourself
food, shelter, things to make your life comfortable.
That a spartan existence without finance.....
Raya: uh-huh.
Omal: is a hollow existence.
Raya: well, I don't know, she used to.....eleven
years ago since she started acting this way.
Omal: uh-huh.
Raya: and then she said that she didn't want to live
anymore and she wouldn't care if she was a walk-in
or what. She didn't seem to want to kill herself but
she didn't want to live here anymore.
Omal: it seems that she has opened herself up for as
you said, a walk-in.
Raya: I see.
Omal: and it is something that she needs to learn. I
think from listening to what you have said that it
is more herself that she is getting at. That the
walk-in is more after her and not you or anybody
else but her. That she has to learn how to react
with this and it is something that only she can deal
with.
Raya: I see. Well, is it like her subconscious?
Omal: it is possible that it could be numerous
environmental factors all linked together. That it
is her subconscious, it is a past life becoming
involved in the present, and it could be an external
entity all combined together to create this confused
individual which is what she is.
Raya: yes and there's nothing I can do about it I
know of except to send her love and light.
Omal: that is correct.
Raya: uh-huh.
Omal: now I will hand over to Ashtar who is present
so you have an enjoyable, I believe it is evening
there?
Raya: yes?
Omal: have an enjoyable evening and we will
communicate again in the future.
Raya: okay, I will write to Mark then and to Russ
and I'll ask about this conversation.
Omal: okay.
Raya: and continue on carrying on from here.
Omal: okay.
Raya: and I.....
SIDE
ONE ENDS
|
SIDE TWO
(We have the honor of Ashtar
starting off side two)
Ashtar: greetings and felicitations.
Russ: greetings Ashtar.
Ashtar: greetings. Greetings Raya.
Raya: thank you.
Ashtar: I have a limited time so let us proceed
with the questions.
Russ: okay, I have a question that both Raya and I
are curious on is the significance of the date
twelve twelve about to happen this Monday.
Ashtar: yes.
Russ: I was wondering what planetary changes or
energy changes might be caused.
Ashtar: there will be a energy field created by
certain planetary activities which happen to
coincide with this date. The spiritual mindset
that will be created will energize a field that
will be useful for various functions. For example,
it will create a temporary energy source to your
need to channel Raya, for you to channel Russ.....
Russ: hmm.
Ashtar: and for you young lady to be in contact
with your inner self.
Raya: that sounds wonderful.
Ashtar: yes, it will be very useful for
advancement.
Raya: thank you.
Ashtar: next question please.
Russ: all right, is the work with Ashtar Command
essential in the future for people looking for
answers or will it be sort of be feared? Like the
witch trials of Salem.
Ashtar: the fear is being in the past. Now, is the
time for acceptance of the understanding of the
new mindset that is the advancement of your
species. It will become more prevalent in the
future and more acceptable for your species'
evolvement on a higher level.
Russ: hmm, okay. Another question Omal brought to
me was in being fiscally prepared for the
shift.....or the changes about to happen in the
next three years, is he talking would you say
about storing up trade goods and healing skills or
other skills or is he talking about money and like
gold coins or something?
Ashtar: think about it. You can answer that
yourselves. That is a irrelevant question.
Russ: oh, sorry. Raya, you got a question? Raya?
Raya: yep? I didn't hear that last.
Russ: well, I asked an irrelevant question. Go
ahead, your turn.
Raya: oh. Hmm, well, yes I asked about storing up
things for the future but where do you store them?
How about volcanoes and earthquakes? They're
supposed to be volcanoes here in Sedona. That
wouldn't be beneficial, would it?
Ashtar: hmm, the volcanoes in your area are very
inactive. I would not concern yourself too much
with volcanoes creating havoc.
Raya: okay, that's helpful. Then I feel like I can
stay put.
Ashtar: yes.
Raya: I have a question though about moving and
starting a center someplace else. Would that be
advisable?
Ashtar: that is your own choice. It is what you
feel is correct and what you feel is a level of
advancement for you. Would it benefit you by
relocating? Would it make you feel more at ease?
Raya: that I don't know. There would be a very big
undertaking I think because I have no finances to
do it with. I'd have to just have trust and faith.
Ashtar: that is a useful tool but it does not give
you necessary protein to exist.
Raya: I see.
Russ: that's all the questions I have.
Raya: that's about all of my questions.
(Speaking to Jolene and Lianna)
Russ: do you guys have any questions?
Jolene: yeah. I have realized recently through
this book I've been reading about energy and how
we like take and we give energies. Are we all
going to start like sharing energies?
Ashtar: yes, energy is there to be used by
everybody. It is there to be used and manipulated
by everything. Energy is given off by everything
and it is there to be used.
Jolene: so you can gain energy if you allow
yourself. Basically like if I was going for a walk
I could gain energy from the earth?
Ashtar: yes. You can gain energy from the earth,
from the trees, from the sky, from the felines,
from people around you.
Jolene: without really taking energy, just gaining
your own. I don't want to take people's energy, I
want to gain my own as well as share it.
Ashtar: people give off energy and it is there to
be manipulated. Even sitting there you are giving
off energy.
Jolene: really?
Ashtar: you are also collecting energy.
Jolene: right.
Ashtar: okay, last questions please.
Lianna: I have a question.
Ashtar: yes.
Lianna:
about the twelve twelve date, referring back to
Russ's first question?
Ashtar: yes.
Lianna: would that be a time to try and stretch
your limits?
Ashtar: yes.
Lianna: to try and test your abilities and see how
far you can go into your abilities?
Ashtar: I believe I have already stated that.
Lianna: well, I wasn't sure.
Ashtar: okay, it is necessary I understand for you
to sometimes clarify things so you can be
absolutely 100% sure. I understand that.
Lianna: because I don't want to try and push
something if it wouldn't be prevalent to do so.
Ashtar: there will be plenty of energy to
experiment with.
Lianna: thank you.
Russ: thank you Ashtar.
Ashtar: you're welcome.
(Tia
drops back in to go over the previous
conversation)
Russ: hi Tia.
Tia: yo.
Lianna:
hello.
Russ: Raya, this is Tia.
Raya: I cannot hear anymore.
Russ: okay.
Raya: it doesn't come through clear enough.
Tia: okay, can you hear me?
Raya: I can hear you now.
Tia: okay, I'm Tia.
Raya: hi Tia.
Tia: greetings.
Raya: are you from the planet Hades?
Tia: I'm living here temporarily.
Raya: I see.
Tia: uh-huh.
Raya: I can hear you clearly now.
Tia: okay, what can I do for you? Oh, I'm an
astral traveler by the way.
Raya: you are?
Tia: yes, I astral travel.
Raya: come visit me sometime.
Tia: yeah, I'll try and come down.
Raya: okay.
Tia: uh-huh.
Raya: that would be wonderful.
Tia: okay.
Russ: you know where she lives or you want me
to....?
Tia: show me sometime Russ.
Russ: I'll show her some time where you live Raya.
Raya: okay, that will be great.
Russ: yeah, that'll be easy enough.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: okay Raya, we're gonna cut this short now
and kill the bill.
Raya: okay, well this is wonderful and I thank you
so much you will be hearing from me Russ, I will
write to you.
Russ: okay, thanks Raya.
Raya: and if we can hear through this tape, I
tried to tape this, and if we can hear on it I'll
send it to you.
Russ: okay, well I taped ours also.
Raya: okay.
Russ: so we got it on tape also.
Raya: all right, if you do then I will send you
some tapes or money for some tapes and would you
send it to me?
Russ: I will though we'll see if yours came out
all right.
Raya: all right.
Russ: okay, bye Raya.
Raya: bye-bye, bless you.
(Tia says goodbye in Durondedunn)
Russ: okay.
Tia: yeah. I can smell something very strange.
Smells like leather.
Russ: leather?
(We had a male deva hanging around the house at
the time who had that smell)
Tia: oh well.
Russ: oh well.
Tia: okay, what can I do for you guys?
Russ: okay, well let's see, what do we got here?
Tia: the heavies are all gone. It's just me here
in the channeling room and everybody else is down
at the apartment apart from Mark who's been sent
to the bar.
Jolene: I have a question.
Tia: yeah.
Jolene: when Ashtar was here, I was asking about
energy levels.
Tia: uh-huh.
Jolene: and I could feel my heart rate go.
Tia: uh-huh.
Jolene: I don't know if I was gaining energy or
whatever.
Tia: anticipation, probably energy too. Yeah, he
can give off a lot of energy. He can be very
abrupt too.
Russ: yes, I know.
Jolene: something he was saying about how he said
right now, you're gaining energy or whatever.
Tia: uh-huh.
Jolene: this part of a book that I'm reading, it's
like in conversation with people that are all
around each other....
Tia: uh-huh.
Jolene: if everyone directs their attention to one
person that's talking, this person seems to gain a
lot of energy.
Tia: yeah.
Jolene: is that true?
Tia: yes, there is a lot of energy all around.
This thing here.......
(Tia pets a cat who meows)
Tia: can give off a lot of energy. See, he's
giving of energy right now. I'm giving off energy.
Now Ashtar gives off a lot of energy.
Russ: he has a funny way of teaching though. I
understand he has a purpose.......
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: in everything that he says and does and it's
for reason.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: but it surely does make a person wonder
about his shields at that point. Like when I asked
my question he said was irrelevant, I was asking
it for the benefit of all.
Tia: yes.
Russ: and yet the answer coming back put me on the
defensive.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: and it was like, "there's goes my shields,
great".
Tia: you remember that Ashtar can do more than one
thing at a time.
Russ: right.
Tia: Ashtar can be in more than one place at a
time.
Russ: uh-huh.
Tia: more than two places at a time. He can read
what you're thinking....
Russ: right.
Tia: and he can break down your shields and it
doesn't matter how good your shields are.
(Everybody laughs)
Russ: yes, I noticed that.
Tia: and he does test your shields.
Russ: oh yeah. And unfortunately, I forgot about
shielding at that point......
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: and I didn't remember it until now.
Tia: yes. So what did you learn from talking from
Ashtar?
Russ: that no matter whether my question is stupid
or not, I should be prepared for an answer that's
going to help me grow....
Tia: exactly.
Russ: and I am prepared to accept the growth.
Tia: okay. Now, what I'm going to do is I'm going
to lie Mark back down and then I'm going to run
down to the apartment and Kiri is going to take
over as ring mistress until I get back.
Russ: okay, sounds good.
Tia: uh-huh.
(Kiri is already sitting
down as she starts shares her knowledge
with us)
Kiri:
you have to excuse me.......that's better. I'm
experimenting with Mark's body and feeling and
everything so the best way to describe it was that
if our roles were reversed, Mark would feel like
he's pregnant at the moment.
Jolene: oh no.
Kiri:
so I'm experiencing Mark's physical body and also
that I'm pregnant. It's a little bit hard for me.
Jolene: that sounds weird.
Kiri:
yes, it is a little bit weird. Hello.
Lianna:
hey.
Kiri: how you doing?
Lianna: I doing all right. So sorry we haven't
made the time yet.
Kiri: oh, that's all right.
Lianna:
it just seemed like every time Mark's up for it
I'm not up for it or....
Kiri: vice versa.
Lianna:
I'm up for it or he's not up for it or we're both
not up for it or we're both up for it and it's
just one of those things.
Kiri: okay, come over and sit here and you tell me
what's been happening.
Lianna:
hmm, let's see, I'm writing again......
Kiri: oh, that's good.
Lianna:
and I'm working on starting a community rally.
Kiri: uh-huh.
Lianna:
and I'm pretty much for sure starting to be on the
team forum for the community, for just community
cleanup.
Kiri: oh.
Lianna:
working on the community and making it better.
Kiri: uh-huh.
Lianna:
and then I also want to look into to teen court.
Kiri: uh-huh.
Lianna: which is going to be something I'm working
on.
Kiri: oh, do we have to have to call you JP
Lianna?
Lianna:
no, I'm just....
Kiri: or are you going to be a barrister?
Lianna:
probably a barrister or what they call it? Like
attorneys at law?
Kiri: yes, I'm only familiar with Mark's
terminology.
Lianna:
yeah, which would be a barrister but here it's
lawyers, attorneys or jury.
Kiri: jury, yes. You have to excuse me, I'm a
little bit uncomfortable because I'm experimenting
with Mark's body. I can feel everything he feels
now.
Lianna:
oh, that's good.
Kiri: this is......
Russ: would you like some tea Kiri?
Kiri: yes, I'll give it a try. There is a shoulder
there.
Lianna:
uh-huh.
Kiri: some kind of fabric, isn't it? It's a heavy
fabric.
Lianna:
yeah, it's a sweater. It's a knitted cotton
sweater.
Kiri: oh.
Lianna:
it's yellow and black.
Kiri: yeah, the best way as I described it to
Jolene just now is the best way to describe how
I'm feeling is if the roles were reversed, Mark
would be feeling like he's pregnant at the moment
with his body.
Lianna:
oh, that's weird.
Kiri: uh-huh.
Lianna:
that's weird.
Kiri: I can feel everything he's feeling and it's
very strange.
Russ: is this too much of a drain on you here
darling?
Kiri: at the moment I'm fine. I'm kind of acting
as ring mistress but I've got to keep it short.
And the fact that we're doing it from the pyramid
at the apartment does help. I should be all right
to channel if it's all right for you on Thursday
night?
Lianna:
yes, Thursday
should be fine.
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: well I'm going to pour some tea dear.
Kiri: okay. Do you mind if I.......I'm going to
sniff it.
Russ: do you want some tea?
Lianna:
oh, it's sugar.
Kiri: it's a very strange smell to it.
Lianna:
uh-huh. Sugar and carbonated water.....
Kiri: yeah.
Lianna:
and phosphoric acid and caffeine and caramel
coloring?
Kiri: okay, caramel coloring.
Lianna:
oh, I'm going to be making two twin
mantlepiece....
Kiri: uh-huh.
Lianna:
decoration teddy bears for my grandmother.
Kiri: uh-huh, yeah.
Lianna: and I was wondering if you could like on
Thursday could be talking about it?
Kiri: yeah, sure, sure, sure, sure.
Lianna:
because I've never made anything like that. I can
make dresses....
Kiri: you can also, I was thinking about the
skirts that you want some kind of material that
stretches.
Lianna:
spandex.
Kiri: yeah, that would do because it would be
smaller and could sit above their hips.
Lianna:
yeah. And we can make it even thinner because the
spandex....
Kiri: uh-huh.
Lianna:
will condense even further.
Kiri: yeah, uh-huh.
Lianna:
do you think my grandmother will like it?
Kiri: yeah. There is somebody actually that will
be coming over to the apartment, a friend of mine
that I think you might feel familiar with.
Lianna:
Lyka?
Kiri: no, not Lyka. Lyka's sitting just outside
the pyramid over there.....
Lianna:
oh.
Kiri: and she's in full dress uniform at the
moment.
Lianna:
oh.
Kiri: she's got to go to class you see.
Lianna:
ahhh, you tell her that I can't wait to see her.
Kiri: you just did, she can see you on the
monitor. We got the portable unit here.
Lianna:
oh yeah, that's right, that's right.
Kiri: now, I'm going to have to pop out of here.
Russ: okay love.
Kiri: this is a very strange feeling because I can
feel everything that Mark's feeling and I can feel
this heavy material and I can feel that this is a
hard substance and this is soft and I can feel the
material that you have on. But when it came to
things like hot and cold, it was a little bit....
Lianna:
dulled.
Kiri: yes.
Russ: we're working on it. Someday you'll have
some Sirian claret down here.
Kiri: I was going make a bet with you.
(Russ starts laughing at the thought)
Kiri: oh, by the way, I'm expecting probably
around about very late February. Probably the last
three or four days of the month.
Russ: oh, February 27?
Kiri: maybe, I'd like to think so.
Jolene: is that your birthday?
Russ: it's both of our birthdays.
Kiri: yeah, from the 26th until the second.
Anyway, bye guys.
Jolene: bye.
Russ: bye.
Kiri: bye Jolene, bye Lianna.
Lianna:
I'll see you Thursday.
Kiri: bye dude.
Russ: bye dudette.
(Tia steps back into the channeling field)
Tia: whew, got here. I managed as she was just
getting up and Karra was ready to sit down and it
was sort of like , "I'm here".
Russ: are you the new ring mistress now, Tia?
Tia: yes, I'm back on duty. I don't think Kiri
could have kept it up that long, she was naughty
today.
Russ: she shouldn't have channeled?
Tia: no, she was fine if she hadn't of gone racing
around and trying to get certain projects all tied
up before she goes on her maternity leave.
Russ: oh.
Tia: I'm out of breath because I ran all the way.
Tia: oh, well go ahead and put Karra in and go
catch your breath.
Tia: okay.
Russ: we'll talk to you in a few.
(Karra has the rare chance to
wrap up a channeling session)
Karra: hello everybody.
Russ: hello Karra.
Jolene: hey.
Karra: I'm trying to think here. That's right, you
were at the wedding ceremony.
Jolene: yes.
Karra: and you're not Carrie, you're not Michael,
you're not Lianna
you are Jolene.
Jolene: yeah.
Karra: and you are young lady, I've never seen you
before.
Lianna: yes you have.
Karra: yes, I know, I'm just teasing. How's it
going Lianna?
Lianna: I'm at that point where it can only get
better.
Karra: uh-huh.
Lianna: so....
Jolene: oh, Kiri said you were going to be there
on Thursday?
Karra: oh, no, not me.
Lianna:
oh, who she referring to?
Karra: I'm not quite sure who she was referring to
actually.
Russ: well anyway darling, I have a couple
questions.
Karra: uh-huh.
Russ: one on genetics and one on speech patterns
of Sirians.
Karra: okay.
Russ: okay, the first one on genetics is, I've
been going through stuff with Omal right now on
Atlantis and working on some of the genetic link
ups that were happening back in the time period of
Atlantis. And I'm trying to figure out that a lot
of the American Indian traits came out of that
whole Atlantean experience, a lot of the red
skinned. And I'm wondering if you had Neanderthal
people and you mix them with Sirian, you're not
going to get a red skinned mix. I'm wondering if
possibly there was a mix then taken from the
indigenous people that were left over from Lemuria
that would cause that?
Karra: come on, come on, you're the person
responsible for the genetic factors.
Russ: well I know that but I don't know where it's
coming from. I'm getting the fact it's Lemurian.
Karra: uh-huh. Maybe, maybe not. Maybe you were
planning to use Lemurian
before your terrible big brother came in and
stomped all over you. He tried to fry your brains
and then tried to fry them again a couple years
ago.
Russ: right.
Jolene: Mark?
Russ: yeah, Mark. When we used to come back to a
past life, he tried to fry my brains back then a
hundred thousand years ago and then the same night
we did the regression is when he was my brother
back then.....
Karra: uh-huh.
Russ: and he was my brother all again.
Karra: yes, he was Maxxus trying to fry Naxxus's
brains.
Russ: he didn't recognize me though luckily too
much. Okay....
Karra: yes, and we tried to warn you at the time.
Russ: yes, I know you did.
Karra: uh-huh and if we hadn't of pulled him into
his twentieth century consciousness, I think you
would've said bye-bye to both of you and you would
be walking around as Maxxus the rest of his life.
Russ: oh, that would be a great addition to the
earth people here.
Karra: yes, somebody with abilities to manifest
crystals.....
Russ: yeah.
Karra: and to control people's minds just by
looking at them instead of thinking about it.
Lianna:
we're still trying to find out where I fit in.
Karra: have patience. We'll do a regression on
you, Russ and myself will.
Lianna:
thank you.
Russ: I suppose we can do it without the pyramid.
Lianna:
yeah.
Karra: oh, Kiri's just handed me a piece of paper.
Lianna, tomorrow night are you going to see Star
Trek Generations?
Lianna:
uh-huh.
Karra: I think it's an invitation that she wants
you and Mark to go.
Lianna: I'll see it again, yeah. It's a great
movie.
Karra: okay.
Lianna: because Stacy and I went with Russ, it's
awesome.
Karra: yeah, I believe Mark is taking some other
friends as well. Okay, back to the questions,
genetics.
Russ: genetics......
Karra: come on, reach into the shaggy depths of
your mind and come up with the answer.
Lianna:
sure you can Russ.
Karra: the shaggy, the jungle that is in there.
Russ: all right, we had Neanderthal....
Karra: uh-huh.
Russ: we had Sirians. Those are the two races at
present that we were working with. Okay, let's
see, so I'm trying to figure out how I would get
red skinned characteristics out of that?
Karra: why are you assuming that there is just
Sirians that were were in the group?
Russ: oh, that's right. Because I can't
remember......there was a group that came down
with the Sirians from another system.
Karra: come on, research, think, it wasn't two
groups. What did Omal call it in a past tiling
session?
Russ: he called it a mixture of peoples.
Karra: no he didn't, he said a precise number.
Russ: three wasn't it?
Karra: no.
Jolene: five.
Karra: no. Your turn.
Lianna: ten.
Karra: no, not quite.
Russ: seven.
Karra: the seven races.
Russ: that's right, seven. Okay, I get it now. So
there was a combination then of working with the
races that were along Atlantis along with the
Neanderthal to bring about, okay.
Karra: yes, it is seven rings for the dwarf lords
in their halls of stone. Three rings for the elf
lords under the stars so sharp.
Lianna: have you been talking to Mark.
Russ: she was reading my mind for that one.
Karra: nine rings for mortal men doomed to die.
Russ: and the one ring to rule them all.
Karra: one ring to rule them all. One ring to
bring them all and in the darkness bind them all
in the land of Mordor......
Russ: very good my dear.
Karra: where the shadows lie.
Russ: very good.
(She gets a round of applause)
Lianna:
excellent.
Russ: most impressive.
Karra: and stop thinking Russ.
Lianna:
now you've said it, it's just going to repeat over
and over in his head.......
Karra: yes.
Lianna:
now he is only concentrating on one thing.
Russ: thank you darling. Okay, now the
Cro-Magnon's....
Karra: sorry, yes.
Russ: the Cro-Magnon's, the mixture that was
achieved from this that I achieved....
Karra: yes.
Russ: where six foot seven tall or six foot seven
on average.
Karra: uh-huh.
Russ: so that would be the Sirian mixture....
Karra: yes.
Russ: that would add the tallness to that.
Karra: but what happened to it?
Russ: it shrunk.
Karra: why? It was an unstable race.
Russ: the Cro-Magnon's were an unstable race.
Karra: yes.
Russ: ahhh.
Karra: the genetic imbalance that would be
created....
Russ: uh-huh.
Karra: would've reduced it to a regressive state
which was not what we wanted, remember?
Russ: oh, that's right.
Karra: you wanted a bunch of individuals that were
a potential source for experimentation for your
species.
Russ: right. Well also we were shooting for an
army.
Karra: uh-huh. So if you are shooting for an army,
what would you want? Intelligence?
Russ: yes.
Karra: strength and agility and stamina.
Russ: most definitely.
Lianna:
so warrior traits as well.
Karra: correct. Because how can you have equipment
of a sophisticated level where you cannot
understand how to use it?
Russ: so obviously, that's when the other mixture
came into being would be I have the strength, the
tallness and the stamina but I wouldn't have the
intelligence.
Karra: not necessarily. It would be either one or
the other or one or the others but not all of them
which is what you would've been looking for.
Russ: right. Well, now one thing I noticed.......
Karra: for being the damn perfectionist that you
can be sometimes, although that should come out
more, that is a very useful trait.
Russ: yes.
Karra: you would want the best balance instead of
having some that are intelligent and some that are
strong and some that have stamina. You would want
all of them, wouldn't you?
Russ: uh-huh. And so that's where the red skin
part came in.
Karra: uh-huh.
Russ: because mixing that together would give you
the intelligence.
Karra: uh-huh.
Russ: and that's what we would use on Atlantis
then for those people that would be in the helping
out the higher echelons of society.
Karra: correct.
Russ: okay, I get it. And then the Neanderthal
didn't have a pharynx so he lacked the ability for
complicated speech.....
Karra: uh-huh.
Russ: complex speech.
Karra: yeah.
Russ: and then in the Cro-Magnon you see that
added in.
Karra: uh-huh.
Russ: so that would be the improvement that was
added into that race then.
Karra: correct. Don't forget, that would be an
unstable race.
Russ: right, but that was the experimental race.
Karra: correct.
Russ: so the rest of it came along later when the
pharynx was a good idea, the strength and the
stamina were a good idea but like you say, it was
unstable so you add just one more addition into
that.
Karra: yes.
Russ: okay, I get it. And then the other part is
on speech.......
Karra: uh-huh.
Russ: and we're looking at the root words of a
hundred and twenty languages throughout history.
Karra: uh-huh.
Russ: and that all of these six words were
basically in each of these languages in various
lesser or greater extents.
Karra: uh-huh, and these words are?
Russ: bah, BA.
Karra: uh-huh.
Russ: call, KALL. Tall, TAL. Os, OS. Ask, ASQ and
tag, TAG.
Karra: uh-huh.
Russ: and I wondering how close that is to the
Sirian?
Karra: they're commands.
Russ: commands.
Karra: yes.
Russ: okay, so I see. Okay, that makes sense.
Karra: uh-huh.
Russ: alright girls, question time.
Lianna: how are you feeling?
Karra: I'm feeling wonderful. I'm a healer, a
doctor.
Lianna: yeah, I know but how are you feeling?
Karra: fine.
Lianna: well just because you're a healer or
doctor doesn't mean you always feel great.
Karra: oh, I know how to take care of myself. When
you become more in tune your body, you know when
things are about to go wrong inside of you. It
is......
Lianna: see, I know when things are about to go
wrong but I don't know how to fix them.
Karra: yes, right, I'm a healer, I can do both.
Lianna: see, I got to learn how to fix them.
Karra: uh-huh.
Lianna: that's what I've been doing lately.
Karra: that's focusing energy by the way. What
might be useful would be going back over some
healing tapes of Carrie.
Russ: oh yeah.
Jolene: how is Carrie? She hasn't gone to her
doctor lately.
Karra: yes, I know, I know. I'm a little bit
concerned about it because she's suffering from
fear of well A, she can't afford it fiscally and
B, she's afraid of what the results are going to
be.
Jolene: yes, she's hiding.
Karra: yes, and the only person she's really
hiding from is....
Jolene: herself.
Karra: right.
Russ: so basically, she's going through a lot of
stress, she's dealing with the people that she had
a hard time with back there and none of that can
be helpful for her as far as her mental condition.
If her mental condition goes, there goes her
health.
Karra: uh-huh.
Russ: well, I'm going to call her up between now
and Tuesday.....
Karra: yeah.
Russ: try to work with her a little bit and then
hopefully Tuesday you can help her on her personal
life.
Karra: she's got to learn more control because
without that control, she's actually doing harm to
herself. And Tia is getting more concerned and
everything had come back from a trip and I believe
Carrie had taken a nap and so Tia could analyze
the reasons for causing her panicking. And she
came straight back to the apartment from her
office and shouted at Mark to tell you to give her
a call straightaway.
Russ: right, I thought it was an emergency.
Karra: well, it is in a way but it's the fact that
she needs to take more care of herself, she needs
to relax and she needs not to worry about things.
Jolene: is there anything that I can do to help?
Karra: be her confidant. We understand that even
though it's a long distance call and you can only
do it maybe once a month, once a month or maybe
twice a month would be what she wants to hear from
that you are there for her.
Russ: I seem to realize also, when she left here,
she had been in the midst of a peer group that
included you Karra and us and she felt confident
and she felt really part of this whole area plus
she had a lot of strength.
Jolene: yeah, exactly.
Russ: and now she's gone into a totally alien
environment and she's the only one who had that
spirit and had that strength.
Karra: uh-huh. The best way to describe it is, she
is a missionary and she must not get into that
big, huge pot that they've got simmering for her.
No matter how tempting the water looks and how
warm and relaxing it looks, it's going to get a
lot hotter if she's not careful. She's got to keep
herself detached from the emotional side of
dealing with these people.
Jolene: isn't that going to work hard on her?
She's only like.....
Karra: yes, it's going to be real hard on her but,
if she succeeds, well....
Russ: big points for her.
Karra: big points. It will take away a lot of pain
and suffering from her because she will have the
confidence, the confidence will give off energy
that will help her to heal herself. You will
explain this to her next week.
Russ: well Karra, when Omal was talking to us
about the changes that are going to happen with
the cities are going to start the rioting and
stuff....
Karra: uh-huh.
Russ: and people are going to flee the cities to
the suburbs.
Karra: I think that's a pressing release actually.
Russ: I am too actually. I think it was meant to
be released now...
Karra: uh-huh.
Russ: or else he wouldn't have done it but it's
really surprising because Ashtar's in the room
obviously.
Karra: yeah, we were watching it. We had the
two-way going so we could see what was going on
and see you....
Russ: yeah.
Karra: but they couldn't see us. And as soon as
they got up, Tia singled to one of the
technicians. She went......which was her way of
saying, "go on, flip the button" so that we had
the two-way again but we could input if we wanted
to.
Russ: hmm.
Karra: and for some reason, Kiri was a little bit
slow in responding, don't know why.
Russ: well, with that the changes about to happen
anyway....
Karra: uh-huh.
Russ: hopefully it will be a while on that, but
what's that going to do for Carrie as far as where
she's at now?
Karra: well she lives in a rural area.
Russ: right, so people from the cities are going
to go in her direction.
Karra: uh-huh. She's going to have some people
from California coming I should imagine.
Russ: hmm, so she's got a real opportunity here.
Karra: yes. That she is a missionary that is
paving the way for other people.
Russ: yeah. So I guess right now, don't worry
about the phone bill.
Karra: well, you guys can always volunteer for
what's the word? OT?
Russ: overtime?
Karra: yes.
Russ: yeah.
Karra: uh-huh.
Russ: right.
Karra: tell Mark to work until six o'clock every
night when he's at work.
Russ: I think he just did.
Lianna:
he usually does do it voluntarily.
Karra: right, he's too nice.
Lianna:
he just kinda gets put there until 6 o'clock. I
mean, very rarely does he does he require an
EO....
Karra: uh-huh.
Lianna:
where he says, "I would like an EO".
Karra: yes, I think that's part of his
responsibility for everybody to dump on him. And
he is neither a person that does the dumping nor a
peon, he is both. A peon and then they dump on
him.
Russ: Lord.
Karra: Tia just said that he had a sign today
which said foot traffic only and he had it hanging
on his back.
Lianna:
oh no, really?
Russ: I think she's joking.
Karra: no, title think she is joking.
Russ: oh really?
Karra: I think.....oh, it was a sign that he was
taking somewhere that he put on his back to carry.
I don't think he realized the pun involved.
Russ: well Karra.....
Karra: uh-huh.
Russ: I assume now with this new information
that's been given to us.....
Karra: uh-huh.
Russ: that healing is about to become a major
asset.
Karra: it's going to become an asset, yes. But
there's also the fiscal responsibility as Omal put
it. A necessary drive for advancement that instead
of sitting back and relaxing, now's the time to go
for advancement.
Russ: well that's what I mean. Right now, as far
as my healing goes....
Lianna:
ambition?
Karra: yes, ambition, exactly, uh-huh.
Russ: and my sitting back days should just about
end now....
Karra: yes.
Russ: due to this new information.
Karra: uh-huh. The time of relaxing is over for
you Russell. Now is the time to hone your healing
skills, hone your fiscal responsibility, store
food, keep on drying the herbs.....
Russ: okay.
Karra: keep on collecting the herbs. Learn more
about the herbs, have an ambition that you want to
be the best healer in this area on a herbal level
and be prepared for the unexpected. The healer has
to defend himself. The healer has to be able to
have currency to buy his herbs. To have the knife
to cut the herbs. To be able to have a mortal and
passel which again takes what?
Russ: money.
Karra: exactly. And my little sister, she brags
from time to time, she's quite wealthy even by
Sirian standards.
Lianna:
who, Kiri?
Karra: yes, uh-huh?
Russ: according your standards, you've got her
beat by quite a bit.
Karra: it is unimportant to me. Money is a means
to an end but being the best that I can be in a
healing capacity is the most important thing to
me.
Russ: well have you still got lessons to learn as
far as healing goes?
Karra: oh yes. Oh yes, have I got lessons.
Russ: well you're not up to Kornas's level yet.
Karra: no. Remember one of the healing sessions
with Carrie?
Russ: uh-huh.
Karra: where I started sniffling?
Russ: oh, that's right.
Karra: uh-huh. And then when we discussed Miranda,
what happened there?
Russ: oh yeah.
Karra: uh-huh. And again both times in those
situations I was hopeless.
Russ: well, is it your emotions that are getting
in the way then?
Karra: yes and no.
Russ: because Kornas is an unemotional healer. You
are a very emotional healer.
Karra: my emotions are very useful.
Lianna: well aren't you empathic?
Karra: yes, uh-huh, very empathic.
Russ: well of the two, and this is only an
opinion.....
Karra: uh-huh.
Russ: okay? Which do you feel is a better of the
two, you or Kornas?
Karra: they're totally different.
Russ: they are.
Karra: yes, totally different. Kornas is a
specialized individual that has a general practice
background.
Russ: right.
Karra: I am a.......
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